“Why America Is Screwed…” Michael Knowles on Ben Shapiro, Hookup Culture, and Toxic Wokeism

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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:26 - Michael Knowles Explains His BEEF W/ Ben Shapiro
3:25 - How Michael Sold 500,000+ Copies of A Wordless Book
12:11 - Why Michael Knowles LOVES Cigars
17:24 - “There’s Real Wisdom In Avoiding The Near Occasion Of Sin”
22:21 - Michael Defends His Statement “We Need To Eradicate Transgenderism”
32:59 - Confronting Michael On His Aggressive Language Toward Transgenderism
41:21 - How To Be A Good Communicator
47:12 - This NEEDS To Be Changed About Modern Dating
58:58 - Michael’s Advice To Young Men Who Are Dating Today
1:00:58 - “What Do You Think Are Your Most Extreme Opinions?”
1:04:53 - Michael & Graham DEBATE: Are Aliens Real?
1:12:13 - How Do You Know Which Religion Is Right?
1:18:08 - Michael Knowles On Atheism
1:23:38 - “If Your Wife Doesn’t Look Great In A Dress, Do You Tell Her?”
1:26:49 - How To Approach Difficult Conversations W/ Your Wife
1:38:04 - Michael On His ‘Whatever Podcast’ Appearance
1:45:45 - Michael On His CPAC Speech & Using Precise Speech
1:52:11 - Word Association / Closing Comments
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[@micaht52]

Graham- dont say gay. Guest- gay, gay,gay,gay, gay😂😂😂

[@jimferris9447]

👏👏👏

[@nexus6090]

“Guest” They say his name like every 2 minutes😭

[@abbyxiong3931]

🤣😁👍

[@jeffcaldwell1546]

“You can’t convince someone they’re wrong by telling them they’re right” 😂😂😂

[@sillysyriac8925]

Your reaction to Knowles saying "gay" was super gay.

[@philipp3001]

Us gays don't care.

[@mstokely2]

Honestly I’ve never disliked these two until I saw how insanely gay they were about the word gay 😅 I mean seriously though that was literally repulsive to watch two men react like that. Such a shame

[@GhosttheassassinSJ]

agreed lol

[@brandonharper4109]

Graham is 5'7" 150. Which probably means 5'4" 135. "Men" is a stretch. Seriously though, is it just me, or are males becoming more and more women-like? Perhaps its just the ones who enjoy being on KZbin.....@@mstokely2

[@adisc7475]

What's the time stamp for this part of the podcast?

[@caesaraugustusmaximus]

1:42:14 "I think this whole conversation is gay." 😂😂😂

[@elsaluscious]

😂😂 i didnt catch that. I went back

[@sayitall123]

To be fair he was right

[@halabuck4637]

The idea of Graham and Jack lecturing Michael Knowles on language and delivery is WILD.

[@boombockz900]

Yes very very cringe.

[@abbyxiong3931]

I agree. Graham and Jack. Do better.

[@nikkisigmon8090]

Haha was thinking the same

[@wealthybones1280]

"If you stand in the middle of the road, you will be hit by a truck." - Michael Knowles

[@WBrown999]

This is dumb. It implies that being far right or far left are the correct choices.

[@kevinrushing5667]

@@WBrown999no, it really doesn’t.

[@justinstanley5869]

@@WBrown999yeah, we should just stay in the “middle” as the Overton window shifts so far to the left we are in the Soviet Union. Just stay in the middle and try to please both sides while we have satanists and pedophiles take over our country. You are the same time of people that enable nazi germany, the great leap forward, Soviet Union and the French Revolution. Don’t be a republican or a democrat. Be anti communism and anti fascism. You need to realize that the ideology infecting this country is coming directly from Marxism. Research Marxism and how it was the root of communism around the world that killed 100+ million people in the last 100 years in Soviet Union and China. Socialism/Marxism evolves into Communism. That is what it is meant to do. The time for being “in the middle” passed 30+ years ago.

[@ChrisTheElectrician]

@@WBrown999 so if you don’t stand directly in the middle , you are now “far” left or right….??? Since when

[@Chew_bacca1138]

Not true due to the videos of all the protestors lately.

[@TruckingaccrossUSA]

I can attest that Graham and Jack concerned about Knowles saying something is gay, was very gay. Cmon guys, even gay guys call out something that’s gay.

[@saulgoodman2018]

But this guy use it as excuse to attack everyone.

[@bridgerparker4275]

It's just an indicator that your humor is stuck in middle school and your vocabulary isn't strong enough to use real insults

[@Woodsaras]

They want to pretend to be sainter than the saints

[@_mark_3814]

@@bridgerparker4275he was referencing something gay

[@bridgerparker4275]

@@_mark_3814 i didnt hear him talking about you?

[@nodaryuya6726]

The way they reacted to Michael saying gay was indeed, gay.

[@bridgerparker4275]

What a clever and hilarious comment, wish i had the edge you did 🤡

[@nodaryuya6726]

@@bridgerparker4275 maybe you'll have it one day

[@bridgerparker4275]

@nodaryuya6726 if i try really hard maybe one day i can be as cool as you

[@nodaryuya6726]

@@bridgerparker4275 yes, I wish you the best of luck

[@bridgerparker4275]

@nodaryuya6726 thanks, you are truly inspiring 🤡

[@Msweet151]

The way Jack got so offended by a word, is really gay.

[@emilyglynn6017]

Michael Knowles is way too smart for these two… but as always, he continues to be the most respectful, patient man in politics.

[@ShaneDocPuff]

I am a gay man, and I take no offense to the way he used the word "gay" which he did, meaning not cool, or dumb. Let's remember that the word has gone through different meanings. The first meaning is “joyful”, “carefree”, “full of mirth”, or “bright and showy”. In the 17th century, the meaning of immorality, or one that is addicted to pleasure. Then in the early parts of the 19th century, the word gay referred to a man who slept with a lot of women. In the 1920s the word extended to men not just having a lot of sex with women but men as well, and finally in the 50s the association with the word as we know it today meaning a homosexual man, while still keeping its origins in “joyful”, “carefree”, “full of mirth”, or “bright and showy”. In the late '80s into the '90s, we started to use the word as slang meaning not cool, stupid, or dumb, which can very much be, especially today, conceded derogatory in the fermentation slang term. I feel that it is all about what the use of the term means. What is the conversation, Does the user mean the use of the word "gay" in its slang use as derogatory towards homosexual men. It's all about context. There is also nothing wrong with letting someone know that if you do not like the use of the word they would not mind using it in that manner. That is no different than you watching your language in front of grandma.

[@TribeWillis]

I totally believe that you are gay, cause that was some serious yappin.

[@gilcruz1479]

Bruh, its not that serious 😂

[@ShaneDocPuff]

@@gilcruz1479

[@pinkerproductions7420]

@@ShaneDocPuff You look like minecraft Steve

[@ShaneDocPuff]

Had to look it up, but I guess I do.@@pinkerproductions7420

[@fattestedtravel]

I’m so amused that out of all the things that Mike says the thing they really start pushing back on is when he starts saying things are gay. As a gay man I am perfectly fine with it. It’s something I’ve never understood why people get sensitive over.

[@TheFatAssCat]

Different strokes for different folks. Can you not respect someone when they give you a platform? Its so funny that this guy said so little about anything the only thing the comments are talking about is the hosts dislike of his language.

[@RationalistMH]

Stop saying 'as a gay X or Y' as if it gives you any authority to speak for an entire group of people. People can have disagreements over language. There are millions of gay and straight people that do find it offensive. That's part of free speech and part of living in a pluralistic society. Freedom of speech does not imply freedom from criticism.

[@casebased8391]

Does anyone have the timestamp on when the gay thing happened? Lol

[@liraco_mx]

​1:40:00 @@casebased8391

[@ThunderHOWL16]

thank you elected spokesperson for all gay people

[@joshjuarez7777]

Those 2 gay guys got awfully offended lol

[@nickkkk495]

This is one of my favorite comments 😂

[@user-or2vq1vq9w]

I applaud The Coffee Hour for inviting a person with opposing views point. We don't have to agree, but we should listen and try to understand opposing views ponts . I don't agree with 95 % of Michael's views but I do agree he should be heard.

[@justanothernick3984]

​@@user-or2vq1vq9w And mocked. For being regressive. And a bit effeminate.

[@alexgoncalves7512]

pffft gesus lmao

[@Binford2500]

Read this comment in Norm’s voice. It makes it even better than it already is. RIP

[@kevindanielpg]

I dont share much with Michael Knowles but he's 100% right with the "Growing together" as a couple rather than dating a 100 people to know what you want, especially for women, they get worst psychological damage from that, in my life, in my opinion.

[@hockeyhalod]

Yes people change. So it's best to change together.

[@gavinwinslow6980]

Why is it always the extremes though? Isn't it healthy to date somebody and realize it's not the right person for you for the rest of your life and finding the one who is? It's completely okay to date a few different people in your life but you should date people you feel will be someone you could and try your best but if it doesn't work then that's okay.

[@gabrielsaavedra7916]

@@gavinwinslow6980 exactly, don't be dating 100 people and find every minor inconvenience to you as a red flag, BUT at the same time, don't think that dating one person should be all there is in life and continue to stay with them even with CLEAR red flags. I think a life where you've dated a few people is fine and shouldn't be looked down upon.

[@aguywatchingyoutube]

Grow = Tell your wife what her life will be or you're gay

[@voskresenie-]

​@@gavinwinslow6980 the problem is people have perfectly fine relationships, but they think "I want to see what else is out there", and their relationships just keep getting worse, until the point where they're hung up on the 'one who got away' because they realize what they threw away. Additionally, a decent partner who you grew with from 20-30 is worth more than the perfect partner who you met at 30, because no matter how perfect someone is, they will never be as perfect for you as the one who morphed to you, and you to them, at the point in your life when both of you were still moldable.

[@willcruikshank7972]

Everybody who would be alienated by using the word gay was already alienated by nearly every opinion by Michael's professes. However, simply calling Brian's aversion to marriage gay is much more effective in changing his mind than some long-winded explanation on the virtues of marriage.

[@MOTM_]

Calling Destiny “amazing” is a wild take

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

Yes 😂😂In every debate I've seen him in (Lex Friedman with Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson's show, and more), they wipe the floor with him. His arguments come down to "well that's not fair" and "people are better than you think, people are naturally good and strive to better themselves". No, life is not fair, and no, people are NOT naturally good, and history shows us that given the opportunity, most people WILL do nothing if you give them the means to. Those are the only arguments I've ultimately heard from him, and they're dumb.

[@_mark_3814]

@@milo_thatch_incarnate well if you are to the right of him you are inclined to think the person to the right of him is winning. But you should watch his Israeli-Palestine coverage (including on Lex) or when he debates people to his left

[@MOTM_]

@@_mark_3814 I don’t agree that this makes him more “amazing” or betters his overall outlook / arguments. But, this is a fair and interesting counterpoint.

[@MOTM_]

@@milo_thatch_incarnateI ultimately believe the same. He’s good at making arguments sound good, but they boil down to precisely what you’re talking about. “People are good; we can have subjective morality AND all get along”. 👀👀👀

[@NowaboMusic]

Amazin'!

[@joshparker5779]

way too much "tone policing" from Graham and Jack. I just don't think that's an interesting direction for a podcast discussion.

[@RationalistMH]

So disagreement over use of language is now ‘tone policing’? You realize you’re the one doing the policing here, right? You’re asking to shut down criticism of other people’s speech.

[@joshparker5779]

@@RationalistMH I would ask that Graham and Jack consider their audience and not bore us with "criticisms" that amount to complaints that people will think Knowles' words don't sound very nice

[@joshparker5779]

And to be clear, the points that Graham and Jack brought up during those segments were certainly valid; I'm not saying they weren't. But that doesn't satisfy me as a podcast listener when I would like to hear them engage with the substance of Knowles' ideas rather than hand-wringing over whether his presentation comes across as too aggressive.

[@TheFatAssCat]

​@@joshparker5779 "i think what you say is ok but shut up"

[@joshparker5779]

@@TheFatAssCat If you're happy to listen to a podcast where the hosts quibble with the guest over whether they're too mean, then good for you

[@nathgibs03]

What are gay😂. 9/10 people i talk to use non-politicaly correct language. Conversation becomes fake when you constantly check your words. When i talk to someone, i want to be a real human and say what i think. When people pressure you to be politically correct, it makes the conversion hostile.

[@tidepride86]

They want everyone to talk like they're politicians. Its very weird. And they speak to each other in leftist circles, like theyre in a therapy session. Its all so clinical and without soul or color

[@niqolustrades]

The vibes of cigar lounges are unmatched, he makes all the points.

[@Helz777]

I agree with Michael. All this caution with words has created the snowflake methodology which in the long run is more destructive than temporarily offending someone. Humanity needs to toughen up. It's you guys that are missing the point.

[@jacobmorres9817]

Bigot

[@CodaCoda9]

Remember that period where people would get offended when they had to share a water fountain with someone they didn’t want to share with? Remember how people were upset when you would say happy holidays, instead of merry Christmas? Remember when people would beat gay kids to death just because they were different? We have always been “snowflakes” it’s just now we aren’t just catering to the feelings of the majority.

[@CodaCoda9]

@@andrewdominguez5602 how so?

[@gabrielparanormalchildhood7559]

​@@CodaCoda9no one beat gay kids to death because they were different your making shit up

[@tylerkessler4575]

Graham is so scared of these conversations. Lol.

[@Absraction]

I wish he'd push back more. He obviously can tell this dude is full of shit at times.

[@Byromatic]

@@AbsractionI think he was a little too pushy on the use of the term “gay.” However I think the dialogue was very valuable.

[@bigdick1267]

​@@Absractionyou ever stop and think, maybe they agree with what he is saying, that's why they don't push back?

[@loljk9443]

Because he’s afraid of openly admitting he’s conservative and losing some subscribers.

[@TheRoyalTNT]

@@loljk9443 Graham is not conservative (nor is Jack, though I'd say he's a particularly weird blend of things; like wanting a bunch of kids, but also wanting to date a lot of different women and basically make a science out of it), though he is to the right of Democrats (very much so economically, not so much so on social values)

[@KevinSecondWind]

I have to be honest, the whole like breakdown about saying something is gay. I was more annoyed/checking out by the two guys trying to shut Michael down. It just seems like no matter what is happening, people are just trying to shush or shy away from speaking certain ways. I know a lot of people even gay men who joke saying like wow thats gay. Ive never seen anyone offended by it, other than people trying to be offended for other people.

[@justinstanley5869]

I say shit is gay all the time. It’s fun to say and slightly ironic bc I am in fact, gay.

[@liraco_mx]

I agree. I'm only giving the video a thumbs up because of Knowles, so they don't confuse my thumbs down as me being offended by his language 😂

[@chuckmowry5951]

It's so cute these kids think they are in the middle and spent 20 minutes trying to police the use of "gay".

[@ianmacdonald4163]

Yeah you're just an offended snowflake. They questioned his use of the word because people on the other side would question his use of it.

[@rachaelholderman9677]

they are trying to play the game of growing their audience by having on diverse guests. I like it but they need to broaden their thinking to accommodate.

[@alexandersims1613]

I have to respect Michael even more now after the double team spent 30 minutes trying to force him to change how he speaks and conducting himself with intellect and civility. Idk if I would have last 3x before I got really direct and offensive about putting a gun to my head and making me talk the way you tell me to talk with the only reason being "for all the weak minded people out there"

[@beccalucas7849]

One of my favorite interviews of Michael, I felt like I got to know him better… he’s convinced me to stop policing my words as much and to just plainly speak truth.

[@Poopheadlibbutt]

And by "truth" you mean subjective opinions?

[@jordiw913]

Hes fucking good I was not expecting to agree with him

[@Novascrub]

As long as you have kindness in your heart. My grandma taught me to ask 3 questions before you speak: Does this thing need to be said? By me? Right now?

[@MarleneHen]

Yes!

[@MarleneHen]

​@@NovascrubNice.

[@antonioiniguez1615]

Michael Knowles is an amazing thinker. He helped me turn away from libertarian conservativism and showed me the logical inconsistencies with it. True conservatism isn't libertarian in nature.

[@kapurants]

Same bro. Knowles is a G

[@derekhayes4358]

Yeah same here, super wild.

[@Kevin-fn1rn]

Name 1 thing conservatives have conserved in the last 20 years

[@Katie.JesusIsKing]

Michaels debates totally helped me to get out of slogans and common phrases and actually think. Do I really believe these things, and if so WHY without what someone else told me ? He's totally right that his plain and clear speech and not sugar coating truth cut straight through to me. And I'm sure to many many more people. I'm not a deep thinker, but I can think and I should think.

[@presleygajewsky8864]

Exactly the same for me!

[@austiniscoolduh]

Thank you for having the balls to speak with people who have opposing opinions from the main stream narrative.

[@jackeagleeye3453]

🐑

[@austiniscoolduh]

@@jackeagleeye3453 thats.. Literally the opposite of being a sheep...

[@jackeagleeye3453]

@@austiniscoolduh If you think Michael Knowles is saying anything deep than you're the definition of an NPC lol

[@RationalistMH]

What is the 'main stream narrative'? Knowles is on the Daily Wire, which is one of the most popular publishers on the internet. You guys have such a persecution complex. You delude yourself into thinking your opinions are 'edgy' and 'controversial' when in fact 50%+ of the country agrees with you.

[@seosam652]

Real balls would be having someone like Nick Fuentes on. Michael Knowles is just a normie conservative.

[@tonepursuit7110]

Its obvious he uses the word gay in a comedic way, I love their serious reaction to it lol.

[@Pikawarps]

When Michaels second book is literally about controlling words to control minds lol 😂

[@redlips8589]

This is clearly one reason why he chose to use the words he used in the interview. I think he likes to see the reaction when he uses these words.

[@aries8910]

Using gay to be funny is usually chill, unless the person using it actually hates gay people and wants to take away their freedom, like this clown.

[@TheophilusTrad]

I absolutely love Michael Knowles. He has a great ability to balance being intellectual with having a sense of humor.

[@Davefitz04]

I dont think saying something is gay is super offensive. raised my eyebrow because I dont hear that anymore, but i largely agree with Michael on that point.

[@LAHowell]

You can decide that for yourself when it’s said to you, sure. But you don’t, just like I don’t, get to decide if someone else finds it offensive. And it also doesn’t mean that those people are wrong for finding it offensive because their reason could be very justifiable. Just because 1 person or 1 group doesn’t find something offensive doesn’t mean that it isn’t.

[@griffinfrensdorff3650]

And just because one group does find something offensive, does not mean another group or individual/s should be expected/required to act in a way so as to not offend them

[@LAHowell]

@@griffinfrensdorff3650 you’re not required to do anything. But there is a level of basic human decency that is often intentionally thrown out. Almost in a sort of “I’m going to be intentionally offensive” type of protest. Very similar to how a petulant child would rebel or lash out. Think how you want, but there is a time and place for everything. I don’t speak at work how I speak with my friends, not because someone is oppressing me, but because some things aren’t always appropriate to say in certain settings or around/to certain people. My very conservative father taught me that politeness is a virtue, I guess conservatives today don’t agree.

[@aaaron6399]

Wow, Dave, you’re a real hero thank you for sharing

[@griffinfrensdorff3650]

@@LAHowell Always treat others as you wish to be treated. Conservative, liberal alike, both sides have lost this decency I would say. You jump directly to being intentionally offensive, which I do not advocate for. I would simply argue that one group’s beliefs don’t dictate another’s behavior- full stop.

[@alexnelson8958]

Bummed that we took a detour from Knowle’s appearance on the whatever podcast. Would’ve loved to hear more about that. The detour into the “gay” debate was uninteresting to me. If you want to have a platform where people with different views articulate their perspective, i think it’s most appropriate to let them use the language they typically use. It definitely got a bit heated towards the end there and it felt like jack was trying to get Knowles to capitulate and personally it’s not what I want to see.

[@TheRoyalTNT]

Yeah, they got surprisingly agressive on that point... But I almost feel like the last points Michael made on it made it worth it (about not ceding the ground on language)

[@Xairos84]

They got defensive because the core of their identity is to try to "reach" as many people as possible. As such they will adjust their behavior in any way that achieves that end. Even at the cost of themselves.

[@christiandante]

I’m with Michael. Thank goodness we have Shane saying “that’s gay” too. I really can’t believe they got soft on “that’s gay” in this podcast.

[@FuegoNews]

Graham & Jack were being super gay at the end

[@Zrw3]

These guys went from cool to cringe when they said they’re Scientologists

[@sillysyriac8925]

You may be autistic. Obvious sarcasm.

[@Pikawarps]

Gets worse when they cry about Knowles saying gay

[@ChristianTheChicken]

Pretty sure they were joking.

[@bigmyke2008]

Michael’s relationship with his life sounds lovely, I wish I had someone like that in my life

[@srchulo]

The way Jack and Graham reacted to him saying gay made me recoil and want to tune out immediately

[@ianmacdonald4163]

Sounds pretty gay to me

[@srchulo]

@@ianmacdonald4163 Exactly!

[@sbishi9527]

Timestamp?

[@scottm2553]

People who smoke premium cigars tend to live longer... If they can afford premium cigars every day, they likely can also afford premium health care. Correlation isn't causation.

[@DougBurgum4VP]

There has NEVER been a randomized control trial with humans proving that tobacco has any negative health effects.

[@impsquat]

No amount of money can prevent lung cancer

[@bkucenski]

@@DougBurgum4VP Scientists have known that smoking causes cancer since at least the 1940s, when epidemiological studies showed a clear link between smoking and lung cancer. Experiments conducted in the 1950s confirmed that the chemicals in cigarette smoke could cause cancer in mice.

[@Tharvey83]

@@DougBurgum4VPmaybe true for tobacco (not sure on the research), but its common knowledge that inhaling smoke itself greatly effects health in many negative ways.

[@overthinkingpremed]

@@Tharvey83you don’t inhale cigar smoke

[@justisforalll]

They’re SCIENTOLOGISTS?! WHAT IS THIS A JOKE

[@JenniferRose-_-]

It was literally a joke…

[@Rollercoastr13]

This is the comment I was looking for I couldn’t tell if they were serious lol

[@dallasevans5587]

Listening to the gay part of the conversation was nails on a chalkboard

[@DesertDawg-oq5fg]

19:15 the reason Shapiro does the hover hand is he is “Shomer Negiah” as a religious Jew, he reserves physical touch, including handshakes to his wife and female family family members.

[@pnwvibes_]

Your guys reaction to knowles saying gay was very gay. Are you two homosexual scientologists?

[@ianrobinson4200]

Hands down, the best at the Daily Wire for me. I may not agree with everything he says, but I like him

[@gavinwinslow6980]

Not even close, he's so partisan and culture war it's annoying. Ben and Peterson are much better

[@cookednick]

@@gavinwinslow6980 Not even close? Who made you the opinion police?

[@myleftnut2590]

⁠@@gavinwinslow6980oh yes the guy who got Candace Owens fired for not agreeing with the 🔯narrative is SOOOO Bi Partisan and Non Culture War, and do i need to talk about Peterson, he should probably be in a mental ward instead of being on DW

[@Ladya12345]

I agree with you. He’s my favorite. And I adore listening to him.

[@Tony76239]

@@gavinwinslow6980 Absolute shit take

[@shanelyons42]

If Michael had said that the way you guys are reacting to him saying gay was pretty gay I would have spit my drink out 😂

[@lukejamieson3390]

Was a big fan of the fact that they put up the screen shots of different articles that he sites and different diagrams to help the audience understand.

[@samapak7]

When it comes to language, Michael is playing chess and everyone else is playing checkers

[@dmate9889]

What gives you that impression? Honestly I found Micheal to be one of the least insightful guests so far. For example on language, he cowers behind the dictionary definition on ‘eradicate’ to hide from the obvious connotation. But then on using the word ‘gay’ he runs away from from the the implication of the dictionary definition ‘homosexual = bad’ statement and appeals to its connotation.

[@knicechawt]

@@dmate9889because language is intricate, and connotations and implications can be picked up on if you are familiar with the person saying it and how he says it

[@dmate9889]

@@knicechawt re-listening to the podcast I’m honestly less impressed with Micheal, he explicitly says he uses ‘gay = bad’ because he disagrees with the idea of homosexuality. That’s not a man playing with chess and utilizing the intricacies of language, that’s a man being openly homophobic in conversation that isn’t even discussing homosexuality. I would flip it to the other side and ask yourself if you would think the same thing for the left. If a liberal said ‘I’m sorry but that’s the kind of shit that a Trump supporter would say’ on a random topic of, say, ethics, and then elaborate that they are saying ‘Trump supporter = bad,’ would you applaud them for playing chess with their language?

[@buscochamba]

if you want to play smart on words/vocabulary, your message can get lost and lose chances to convey your argument, in particular when most people not necessarily master vocabulary as the guest...hmmmm not impressed

[@hermann5347]

@@dmate9889 You re-listened and still didn´t get his point? Homosexuality for him is part of a general worldview that sees sexual relations as sterile acts of entertainment between identical individuals. Treating your spouse as if he or she is exactly the same as you, is therefore somewhat "gay". The same goes for red pillers who promote and engage in hookup culture (sterile sex for entertainment only). I agree that this is a bit far fetched, but it´s an interesting observations. What I found more convincing though, is the pushing back against language control. As he said, it used to be a rather harmless and almost childish insult, and now the culture has changed it into an agressive homophopic word. I think there he actually has a point: The majority of people even now don´t really find this word really that offensive. A small minority does, and dictates everyone else that this is a terrible word that can neve be used. But we should not bend our words so easily just to satisfy current trends or screeming activists.

[@omi8015]

“That’s gay” is such a normal remark. If you want to read into his view of homosexuals based on his usage of the word “gay”, you can, but that’s gay.

[@derudadesigns]

Good show, but you guys need to speak with a lot more variants of people if you think the majority of people are offended by the usage of “gay”. Most don’t even care, don’t want to care, and have no time to care. Emphasis on no time to to care. Spending the majority of your time in places where people have time to be offended by language, is why you worry and have to watch your language.

[@MrNatrocks]

The ben shapiro hand thing is a Jewish orthodox thing You're not supposed to touch the opposite sex besides your spouse

[@pinkerproductions7420]

What about your daughter

[@267cal]

​@@pinkerproductions7420...

[@pinkerproductions7420]

Hey look alright

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@pinkerproductions7420 Joe Biden? What are you don't here? Get back in the basement.

[@Smile16561]

@@pinkerproductions7420orthodoxs jews can only touch relatives of the opposite gender if they are 1. Grandparents great grandparents ect… 2. Parents 3. Siblings 4. Children 5. Spouse :) some are lenient about touching aunts and uncles but its usually not allowed. There is more details but this a vague explanation hope it makes sense

[@SmoochKassidy]

Calling someone’s mistaken self image an “error” is correct. There is no reason to mix words with anyone. Errors exist to be found and corrected.

[@daviswatkinsyt]

The way Jack abruptly ended the podcast was actually pretty funny

[@saulgoodman2018]

This guy maybe only paid for 2 hours.

[@daviswatkinsyt]

@@saulgoodman2018 pretty sure they pay him… but I could be wrong

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@daviswatkinsyt I think they do too. Because the last couple episodes, the guest just started to talk about their product they are selling.

[@jessbridges564]

I am one of six kids. When either parent had to go on a business trip they would take one of us. Over the course of the trip you would be with that parent one on one. Each of us treasure those trips. But when you are a big family you have more than enough family time. When you are not from a big family and especially if you are an only child. The concept that kids of large families are missing out on parental attention is kind of funny to us. The best thing about large families is that your parents can’t helicopter parent. You end up having way more personal freedom. You are just never bored or lonely and your parents are really devoted parents.

[@talithakoumigetup7005]

I'm one of eight and a mum of 6. You are absolutely right.

[@user-ko1iw5zj6q]

The irony on the gay word discussion when Steven was expressioning his anxiety about what the audience might think... loved it.

[@apolloyet633]

Thanks for allowing such a wide range of guests to give such drastically different views. This really helps me think about all views and constantly reevaluate them.

[@cfmcelderry]

Lol this podcast is 100% Jack's dating podcast now😂😂😂

[@TheFrostyApe]

I'm glad Michael doesn't mince his words, speak with your chest and get the point across, some of these people with mental illness need to hear the truth.

[@RileighAsh-ys4uw]

My husband and I are 23 and 24 have been married 4 years have 3 kids and have never had any other sexual partners and it makes marriage so much happier, simpler, and there is so much less baggage than most others our age have. Michael’s advice is correct and possible in this day and age.

[@harleylikethebike]

I think the big thing Graham is worried about is that over night everyone will turn on him and no one will watch the next episode.

[@albertsegura6034]

Michael Knowles w the facts 🔥 also gay when we were growing up meant something like uncool.

[@aaaron6399]

Yeah… that’s why it’s controversial to use it that way. Try to keep up.

[@albertsegura6034]

@@aaaron6399 try to not get offended

[@aaaron6399]

@@albertsegura6034 sorry you dont understand the most basic of discussions 😂

[@albertsegura6034]

@@aaaron6399 It’s only controversial to you and a few amount of ppl. Everyone else doesn’t really care.

[@aaaron6399]

@@albertsegura6034 I don’t care about it. You didn’t seem to understand why anyone would be put off by it. It’s just basic. Like you thought you were adding information to the comments but literally it’s the whole premise that everyone understands lol how do you feed yourself

[@jennadee123]

The reason Ben S doesn’t touch women other than his family is because of religious reasons, NOT the me too movement.

[@trvpboifetti5006]

I had no idea graham was a Scientologist

[@CJB333]

Damn i thought the comments were going overboard with pointing out you didn't like him saying gay but then i got to that point and you guys spent 15 minutes on it. Out of all you talked about you get hung up on one word and it becomes the main focus. That's stupid.

[@Janieandtheboys17]

Michael is the best interviewee/podcast guest in the world. He comes prepared to fuel the conversation, leaving no burden on the host’s shoulders. I could listen to him for hours.

[@ExcitingBob]

The fact checking in real time and throwing up images to explain difficult concepts is such a great addition. Adds a huge amount in terms of what I am getting out of the conversation.

[@bradmtb1]

Nice to see a mix of opinion on TICH. Don't happen to agree with Michael (as an atheist) on most of his views, but appreciate hearing different points of view on life.

[@jeepsnow01]

Great pod guys, really appreciate the opportunity to hear from both sides of the aisle. I can see how you both have developed your approach since the beginning of the pod.

[@justinsmith4625]

Are we just going to skip over the part where Jack and Graham say they’re Scientologists?

[@SevereFamine]

What??

[@nickkkk495]

The way jack ended it so abruptly was so gay. They were getting into such a good discussion, I wish it would’ve gone on just a tad bit longer on that topic

[@Cannabian]

In regards to dating a ton to get "data" points. Michael is actually right, you grow together if you try. I moved around and made friends over and over again. They all were equally important, different, and had their problems. A romantic partner is no different. People who are willing to grow together is all that's needed for a good relationship.

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

It can be very difficult when applied to real life

[@Cannabian]

@DadsCigaretteRun like most things it is, until it isn't. The problem is finding someone else who has figured out you have more say in who you want to love then anything else. The sparks come and go, passion ebbs and flows, paths wander etc. With desire and effort you find that love is a gift and sparks, passion and direction are decisions you make consciously which creates the love you want. Many people want sparks, passion as a basis for love which is a hollow endeavor.

[@peterman8848]

Ok....and you think you are going to find the right person who wants to grow with you on your first try in high school? What if they start growing in the wrong direction and it is massively to your detriment? Do you stay with them and let them drown you? Will you stay with them for 15 years while they ruin your life waiting for them to right themselves and finally change themselves into the person you deserve? No. Because you will be rewarding many of their bad behaviors, and that is the ultimate participation trophy. The biggest thing that changes people is consequences for their bad behavior and eventually they can change hopefully.

[@jimalvarez5042]

this podcast has been so great! never been recommended to these guests, but hearing their opinions and explanation is amazing. I hope Colion Noir is a guest one day and Grahm does a collab . would be so epic!

[@HushGaming7]

I love these edits within the convo 😂

[@saintlybeginnings6296]

1:00:47 - my neighbor has 6 kids, and they are super close. The parents take each for a special dinner on their birthday, but usually do things together. Occasionally if one of the kids seems to be having a hard day or something they had worked hard for but didn’t win (most are active in sports), the dad will usually take that child for a walk together or something they know is special for that child and talk it out. I have 4 kiddos, and it really isn’t more work nor more expensive, but the joy and connection is priceless. Would love more

[@jessbridges564]

This show is just so cool. I love being privy to these long format conversations.

[@brandonharper4109]

The commercial interruptions are unbearable. I pay $18 per month and I still have to hear “but before we get into that blah blah blah blah”.

[@meowzord]

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[@saulgoodman2018]

YEP.

[@jacoblloyd2573]

I love it that Jack Selby continues to co-host with Graham. Thank you for Graham's video update on his personal channel to dive completely into this highly acclaimed channel. Keep it up, Gents!

[@BenDol90]

This is for sure the greatest podcast on KZbin, its not even close. Appreciate you guys being so willing to talk about these issues and challenge ideas in a productive way.

[@Chrisnunez1995]

Graham and Jack should stop playing both sides, you’re either Right or left. Let’s see if they won’t care about anything when they have kids😅

[@peterswellnesschiropractic4068]

Graham, thank you for this interview. I have not watched the whole thing yet but 39 minutes in and enjoying it very much. Saw your video discussing how you two are traveling to do these interviews but had no idea that you were getting access to this quality of people to interview. Keep it up.

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@PatColin]

Wait till they shake in their heels over him saying “that’s gay”

[@beng7093]

Michael Knowles will never admit communist Cuba makes the best cigars.

[@VivaLaFortuneVlog]

Nicaragua is also communist to

[@beng7093]

@@VivaLaFortuneVlogwhen the US led a coup against the Sandinistas maybe. Now? Not so much. When in doubt this is a useful measuring stick.

[@jranon9930]

Thanks for always bringing different viewpoints on and confronting them on them. Always nice to see you guys come from the middle and challenge why they go to extremes. Helps me better understand them even if I still don't end up agreeing with them.

[@Born-wild]

Best advice ever … my husband and I had crushes on each other, but we were friends,when we were both single we got together, got married when I was 19 he was 21 everyone said it won’t last their too young … 30 years later and 6 kids we are more in love than ever … we have been through miscarriages, our oldest child died, death of parents, you name it we came through it stronger … because shared experiences we did it together

[@kaykay1846l]

Michael deserves more credit. He’s so awesome.

[@ssuerod]

Had me till the 4th Quarter. I personally don’t use “thats gay” as an insult or slang anymore as part of my own beliefs… but the debate on it negated the rest of the podcast in a way. I would have just let him say it, maybe point it out, but I dont think it rated that long of a segment.

[@jabernal22]

I'm just realizing this has less than an hour online!!! Enjoying it so far. Ill be buying that book 😂

[@nayr661]

Tomorrow is April 1st, get ready for Graham's video 😂

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

No April 1st prank this year…or is there? 🧐

[@nayr661]

@@TheIcedCoffeeHour I don't believe you (Ron Burgundy point)

[@josephhobbs4754]

Roll your own cigars at home and save hundreds with Bankroll Cigars.

[@saulgoodman2018]

That he is Elon Musk secret love child?

[@sydneyorich6062]

My grandmothers middle name is 'gay' it's mean joyfulness and happiness!!! People have to make bad out of everything now..

[@miriba8608]

Shame it now means a disordered sexual act.

[@AntonioRodriguez-ik7jq]

graham and jack wouldn't be able to handle a COD lobby XD

[@Joshmarmolejo_]

Out of the daily wire hosts he seems the most chill and less cringe. I’ve always been intrigued about him.

[@raymcmahon6123]

Klavan has a similar style

[@jchurchill8696]

I never miss an episode. He pulled some things out of you guys that has me questioning if I should continue…..

[@thatguybrooke]

The fact that these guys are scientologists adds up like ohhhkay Yup! Make sense Good rule followers 👏 😅

[@pathforwardcreatives]

You guys have too many plugs throughout your podcasts. I was listening on Spotify and there were 5 ad plugs in under 20 minutes into the podcast. RUINS the flow of the show. Which is why I quit tuning in. Have the first 5 minutes dedicated to ads or split it in thirds. Beginning, middle, and end. Will help retain viewers. Just letting ya'll know. Other than this I like the podcast.

[@TalkItAllShow]

Graham, I’ve been a fan of yours for many years and I am really happy to see you adding the long form content interview format to your channels!

[@cecilyperry3150]

We need to get away from being afraid to tell people when they are in error. It is helpful and beneficial to lovingly tell people they are wrong because it establishes that there is a "right" somewhere to be found, a truth that someone needs to come to.

[@PhotoDaveJax]

I would tune out when we over debate a word. And I did. 🙄👋

[@ogamikedirects]

Would’ve wanted his take of the situation with Candace Owens

[@ogamikedirects]

I’m gonna just assume that this was shot before she parted ways with the DW

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

@@ogamikedirectsmost likely

[@bobwilkinsonguitar6142]

DW isnt commenting much either lol

[@TehFlush]

I think he said he wasn't going to comment on it

[@Steve_Jaz]

Graham and Jack are scientologists? That's sad lol

[@cr9872]

Scientology and saying gay is an offensive term. L jack

[@pepecebolla69]

The hover hand is dumb. If you don't want to make contact, then don't put your damn hand there.

[@Jakemedia123]

I think the @theicedcoffeehour should have the following guests on separate episodes; A rabbi A priest An imam And likewise for the top 5 religions

[@saulgoodman2018]

ANd they all walk into a bar.

[@ColombianLNP]

Had no idea who this guy is/was but like always happy that you guys have a wide variety of guests in the show regardless of beliefs. Cheers from your biggest fan in Colombia amigos!

[@fattestedtravel]

I’m just here for all the marketing pitches. The Michael Knowles fits into this from the left is tears mug to the cigars to his books and I’m only 10 minutes and