Why Fr. Altman is Wrong About Pope Francis

In this episode, Trent rebuts Fr. James Altman's case that Pope Francis is a heretic and so he is not actually the Pope.
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00:00 Intro
00:34 Fr Altman Overview
04:40 Heretical Popes Lose the Office
06:49 Gish Gallop
10:07 The Pope's Conduct
14:51 Out-of-Context Statements
19:31 Supposed Monastic Persecution
21:11 The Mass and Eucharist
23:38 Cardinal Burke
24:27 Gleeful Rejoice of Damnation
25:56 Millstone for Pope Francis
28:18 Final Thoughts

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

Praying for Fr. Altman and Pope Francis.

[@evanskip1]

pray for your cult. Thank me later!

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@brendamyc3173 Continuing to pray for him. Them both! Hope you and yours have a light-filled good day!

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@@evanskip1 interesting how quick of a response this is responding to a different commenter.

[@supernerd8067]

@JohnHenrysaysHi Amen!

[@glennyskitchen9491]

​@@evanskip1you call cult the true church of Christ?

[@supernerd8067]

One of the things that rubbed me the wrong way was Altman saying, "A tiger does not change its stripes." If I am understanding him correctly, no one can change or repent. This is contrary to the call for repentance I have been hearing for weeks at Sunday mass. Heck, it was part of yesterday's mass where Christ told the Pharisees that prostitutes and tax collectors will enter the Kingdom before them because they heard Christ's call and repented.

[@catholicguy1073]

💯

[@ajbahus]

If a tiger can't change his stripes then obviously Jesus erred by reinstating Peter after he publicly denied him thrice.

[@landry3341]

He's the pope. He's supposed to be representative of better behavior and understanding of the faith. His inability to teach succinctly and with clarity is leading people from the faith and into heresy which is an issue.

[@catholicguy1073]

@@landry3341 sure he can speak better. However he hasn’t taught heresy and you would need to substantiate that he’s leading people into heresy

[@swoosh1mil]

This is one time I’m glad I’m not a tiger! 🐅

[@carolsalty1193]

Bishop Schneider stated it well . The pope is the pope , regardless if you like him or not, if he is a good one or bad one. As an act of charity, we are called to pray for all the shepherds of the church and pray for the conversion of sinners . Keep close to our Lord Jesus and in a state of grace 🙏🏼

[@murielkinsella3526]

Agree wholeheartedly with your comment

[@Bryanisright33]

Bp Schneider was partially correct in his statements a week or so ago. Pope Paul IV saying a heretic cannot be a pope doesn't preclude a pope from becoming a heretic and then ceasing to be pope; per Bp Schneider: "a heretic cannot be a pope". Three other saints, besides St Robert Bellarmine, weighed in on this and said a heretical pope would be out of the Church, cease to be pope, and that the seat would then become vacant; thus a heretical pope would cease to be pope. Given they gave real world actions with the results, this wasn't their mere opinion.

[@Jake4Truth]

@@Bryanisright33 Views on "A heretic cannot be pope" are based upon Circular Reasoning: "A heretic cannot be pope." Followed by: "But He was elected pope." Followed by: "Correct. And since he was elected and is now pope and a heretic cannot be pope he cannot be a heretic" which ignores that he can become a heretic after being elected.

[@Bryanisright33]

@@Jake4Truth Thus why debate (which has indeed taken place at various times in history past on numerous would-be antipopes) was allowed and conclusions were reached by councils throughout history as to whom was or wasn't one. But there is such quasi-censorship of debate in the church today those doing so would be thrown out though the church wasn't that way at one time.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@Joker22593]

"A tiger never changes his stripes" is anti-christian. I now understand why Father Altman has been chastised by his bishop.

[@sarahcatherine9441]

First of all, thank you for what you said about responsible parenting. Having C-sections can be very dangerous, especially the more you have. I owe it to my children to continue to be able to care for them and raise them. Second of all isn’t a Catholic church doctrine that it’s a sin to wish somebody to be barred from heaven. I always understood it, that the church doesn’t claim or want anyone to go to hell. We are even supposed to pray for people we perceive as evil? The example my nan gave me was EVEN Hitler. And she survived the Blitzkrieg

[@whitevortex8323]

yes the church and we should wish all to be saved, though we know not all will be saved.

[@tadsgirl]

The Catholic Church allows natural family planning but the only way to guarantee not getting pregnant is not letting sperm in your womb. Just putting that out there.

[@phocivic]

of all the heretical and ambiguous statements made by francis, trent chooses one that is not controversial to make his point; seems cowardice to me. this is from a brave clergy kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2PYe4dvpKubm9U

[@OrthoLou]

​@@tadsgirlNFP is a lot more effective than any manufactured contraception. Just putting it out there.

[@lvlc5]

For me, it makes me anxious just to listen to him with such hatred and smirks. 25:19 yes, dark, and 26:30 EVIL... Yes, we need to keep praying for him and his followers.

[@missveronica8393]

Honestly that part felt almost demonic, and I don't say that lightly 😬

[@tessa7413]

Yeah, he seems to have fallen into temptation (being rebellious, and getting a big head from all the encouragement and attention), and also seems to be under demonic influence. He definitely needs prayers.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@ModernLady]

I agree. Is had clearly made a deal.

[@adambrocklehurst4211]

I think he drinks, and he's had some kind of mental breakdown. His manner is not normal.

[@JaySeamus]

You can tell that Fr. Altman loves the pope's birth name by his constant usage of it every 10 seconds!

[@elysiumcatholic]

He doesn't even pronounce it correctly.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@elysiumcatholicI detest the way he says it.

[@swoosh1mil]

Fr. Altman has so much envy for Pope Francis birth name. He wishes his name was so fluent as “Bergoglio”. Instead of “Old man”. 😂

[@Moongul]

He only says it just to disrespect and devalue his position as the pope.

[@user-to4df1wp4u]

Thank you very much Counsel of Trent!❤️ Praying for the enlightenment of Fr Altman and all those who are like him 🙏🙏🙏

[@Swish82]

Thank you for your videos. I'm a 41 year old catechumen, and these things can be dangerous to us. Especially when I'm just still learning the basics.

[@lizmonard]

Yes, I feel so sorry for you. There are many new converts being very alarmed by the division in the Church. Just stay on the Ark. Jesus will calm the storm.

[@catholicguy1073]

Don’t follow the rules extremes. While the Catholic Church is the one true Faith. The people who make up the Church are human and some humans like Fr. Altman have appeared to become schismatic as an overreaction to the his critique of Pope Francis. Don’t pay it any mind especially when you do not know nearly enough about the Church. Avoid the poison

[@RedWolf5]

Nothing to fear brother in our 2000 year old history our church has seen Judas and 40+ antipopes trying to destroy the church from within, they’ve failed because our church is protected by Christ himself as clearly stated in Matt 16 ::: Stay calm stay Catholic.

[@derechoplano]

@@RedWolf5No Pope was like this. No Pope worshipped a pagan goddess. Stop whitewashing apostasy.

[@brutus896]

Keep researching the Catholic religion. You will find out that this is one of many warnings that this is a false religion. It has been deceiving many for 2000 yrs. The papacy is a joke, and Mariology is blasphemy. The entire system is an abomination to the Lord Jesus. Test everything doctrine with the bible. The bibke is TRUTH. Dont just believe what they tell you. Take it from me, ex - Catholic ✊️

[@MajorasTime]

Lord Jesus please destroy the heresy of Sedevacantism once and for all 🙏

[@richvestal767]

That's a perfectly legitimate sentiment... Just as long as you agree and include that God eliminate Liberation Theology and correct all those who subvert the Faith by pushing that ideology into the Church.

[@captainskippy4560]

Amen 🙏

[@john-el9636]

@richvestal767 You don't need to include that as a caveat to condemn the heresy of sedevacantism. Also worth noting that Pope Francis has never been on board with liberation theology.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@john-el9636 Bergoglio is a Socialist and liberation theologian no matter what you think. He also is an Earth Worshiper so there’s that.

[@john-el9636]

@sliglusamelius8578 Prove it. He's explicitly stated that Marxism is incompatible with Catholicism, and Pope Francis was known for being opposed to liberation theology while in Argentina. In fact he was accused of having connections to far right government leaders while bishop there. Oh and he's never worshipped the Earth. Lying about someone, including the Vicar of Christ, is a violation of the 8th commandment.

[@TheBadTrad]

The difference with the McCarrick situation is that AFTER he was sanctioned and sidelined, Francis brought him BACK and actually promoted him. That’s a BIG difference that you conveniently forget to mention.

[@angelalemos9811]

Hey Chris! That doesn't make a pope a heretic. It's just bad, sinful perhaps, poor decisions, nasty etc. You can't say that someone is a heretic because they forgave and were nice to child molesters. Being nice to child molesters no matter how disgusting isn't heretical. Mccarrick is in fact nasty though. I can't believe someone found him not guilty

[@TheBadTrad]

@@angelalemos9811 I didn’t assert Francis is a heretic. I simply pointed out Trent’s faulty comparison concerning the McCarrick debacle.

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

@@angelalemos9811 Bergoglio has approved priests blessing same sex unions -- heresy. Worse than the heresy is the fact that Bergoglio is not Catholic and wears a cross with a male figure that has one foot facing forward and the other facing backward -- a diabolic sign of the anti-Christ.

[@TheBadTrad]

@@horrorhawk3701 Why don’t you try telling the *whole* story, “lol”? Whether “Uncle Ted” was ever a part of a see after 2006 is immaterial, and you know it. The fact is, Benedict imposed severe restrictions on Ted, but then in 2013, Francis *removed* those same restrictions despite widespread knowledge of Ted’s crimes.

[@TheBadTrad]

@@horrorhawk3701 Francis sent Ted to China as a representative of the Holy See and had Ted acting as his emissary in other instances. Francis knew all about the allegations as well as the lawsuit settlements from Ted’s abuse but made him a trusted advisor anyway, “lol.” You should be ashamed of your obfuscation.

[@jonahstephens2904]

"One can actually cultivate a sort of medieval piety by having no idea what His Holiness in Rome is doing."

[@missveronica8393]

This is the quote I use when the topic comes up.

[@TaehunGrammar]

Any chance you can link the source of this?

[@jonahstephens2904]

@@TaehunGrammar I honestly have absolutely no idea. I heard it from a well-read friend and didn't think to ask where he had heard it.

[@maryannstypa4859]

The Pope is denying catholic teaching - we are cognizant of the facts and he’s causing division with holy bishops, priests and cardinals who follow the teachings of Christ. It’s not medieval piety -it’s calling a Pope who ignores his own priests who want answers - devoid of humility! God have mercy on the Pope who greets the new world order people at the Vatican and appoints an atheist , pro abortion woman to an office! Horrific!

[@tribalink804]

@@jonahstephens2904 yet, one of the acts of Mercy is to instruct the ignorant in the Faith. We are called to do this in an age when words uttered by the Pope and certain members of the hierarchy are often diametrically opposed to the Faith, and fly isntatly around the internet or other media. This was not the case in medieval times. Thus, given the times we are living in, we have to stay engaged and be able to articulate the Truth, and to counter the false gospel no matter who utters it. Many are being led astray.

[@polaroctoct7429]

Troubling times… thank you for reaffirming the truth in the Catholic Church so that many won’t be led astray.

[@ironymatt]

Jesus makes it clear as crystal: "Do as they say, not as they do", "Do not be deceived", etc. That's off the top of my head - I know there's more our Lord gave us. For that matter I don't have a problem with anything Pope Francis ever said, but I sure can't can't say the same for the dishonest megalomaniacs who twist everything about him for their own self aggrandizement.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@seanlegendhavemeyer9936]

If your truth comes from this KZbinr Trent then i will pray for you.😔😔

[@seanlegendhavemeyer9936]

@@ironymatt twist everything? I would seriously question your comprehension little one.

[@alexchristopher221]

@@seanlegendhavemeyer9936 Where does your truth come from? Church history, Catholic dogma, and logic are on Trent's side.

[@lukebrown5395]

Pray for Father Altman because telling people that Pope Francis needs to tie a milestone around his neck isn’t Christlike. The verse doesn’t apply to that. 6 “Whoever causes one of these little ones[e] who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Sound Of Freedom drilled that verse into our heads so the question I have for Altmans supporters is. How is he causing little ones to sin? When Altman is the one lying to people.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

Bergoglio is gaslighting all of us. Why did his atheist friend Scalfari publish that Bergoglio does not believe that Jesus is God? Why did Bergoglio give the Chinese Catholic Church to the Communists? Why did Bergoglio sign the Abu Dhabi document? Why doesn’t he answer the dubia? Why does he allow German bishops to bless same sex couples? Why does he put pro choice people on pontifical councils?

[@rhk3482]

To quote Christ, when observing the behavior Christ spoke of isn't Christlike?

[@killianmiller6107]

Jesus once said “hate your enemies” Depending how you respond to what I said should reveal the point the OP was making.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@killianmiller6107 Huh? Jesus never said to hate your enemies. I don’t know if Father Altman hates Bergoglio, but it could be true. I certainly don’t approve of talking about tying millstones around necks in a literal sense!

[@killianmiller6107]

Right, because what I did was remove a few words out of their immediate context. Matthew 5:43 “You heard that it was said, love your neighbor and *hate your enemy.* But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” I was responding to the other reply that implied Altman was simply observing Christ’s behavior so it’s unfair to say what he said was un-Christlike. Fr Altman’s takes the millstone passage about how it is better to drown with a millstone on your neck than to cause a little one to fall away, and uses it as an active method of condemning the pope (whether he means figuratively or literally).

[@southbug27]

As a Protestant, all this fighting is exactly what is so exhausting in the Protestant world.

[@henrytucker7189]

Which is why I left Protestantism after 40+ years ... and why Fr. Altman should cool it. He's obviously angry. ALL THE TIME.

[@pollsfriend]

@@henrytucker7189right. This. He’s got a major chip on his shoulder comes off bitter and vindictive.

[@phocivic]

doesnt he and anyone else have cause to be angry? the current leader is a heretic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2PYe4dvpKubm9U

[@tgriffin3059]

I thought this was supposed to be a perceived advantage of Catholicism....their teachings are written down in black and white. This should eliminate all the ambiguity. But, when half the Cardinals and Bishops...not to mention the Pope, himself...are evildoers...not so much...

[@littlerock5256]

@@CatholicDefender-bp7my Coming to the realization that the papal claimant is false can make one feel betrayed and having been lied to. But this is also Altman's style. Perhaps it is the barrister in him.

[@piafounetMarcoPesenti]

If he converted, fr. Altman would be quite the energetic fighter for the Faith. We have to pray for him.

[@Felipe-sw8wp]

His conversion happened on his baptism most probably.

[@piafounetMarcoPesenti]

@@Felipe-sw8wp That isn't conversion, really, but faith. Don't you think fr. Altman is wrong? He is still baptised...I am talking about a conversion to the Church; since he think the pope isn't the pope (worse than the Orthodox who, at least, recognise him as the pope), he isn't de facto in the Church. One may lose salvation, as we know. Let's hope fahter only temporarily lost his way.

[@Felipe-sw8wp]

@@piafounetMarcoPesenti who am I to judge.

[@piafounetMarcoPesenti]

@@Felipe-sw8wp This citation opens to anything, don't you think? The same Jesus that said "Judge not, lest you'll be judged" also said (John 7:24) “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”

[@Felipe-sw8wp]

@@piafounetMarcoPesenti yes, but more specifically I mean, he is a priest, I'm just a layman, in this sense, who am I to judge him. I also disagree a lot with the Pope, but who am I to judge. If he's right or wrong I don't know, but I don't see how even being wrong would make him out of the Church. I think what he is saying is possible in theory, so if he's wrong he would only be wrong in applying a legitimate principle in a concrete case. But he wouldn't be inventing a whole new principle like a heretic. And about the orthodox, I think it's much worse to disobey a Pope that you recognize as a Pope than disobeying him because you don't think he is the actual Pope.

[@lux-veritatis]

The way Fr Altman smiled as he vividly condemned Pope Francis to hell and gleefully wished for his death was VERY telling… 😬 I am genuinely concerned why people think that is an acceptable way to behave as a Christian.. like… are we reading the same Gospel??

[@thenazarenecatholic]

I don’t know how someone can stand in front of images of Christ and our Blessed Mother and say those kinds of things (as Fr. Altman does). Every time I view an image of the Holy Family or the saints, I feel guilty of just holding a negative attitude towards someone - even someone who has blatantly done evil things. Asking for mercy, and praying for conversion of others - as well as one’s self - seems more appropriate for that setting.

[@DanyTV79]

Thanks for this video. Let's all pray for the Church and the Pope.

[@supernerd8067]

Amen!

[@ceiciliasura3879]

Amen🙏

[@amalp9784]

Praying for you to

[@bluecomb5376]

I urge anyone who wants to give in to feeling anxiety, confusion, anger, or despair to intentionally fast for the month of october. This is something we CAN do and is efficacious.

[@theadventurer1602]

I am a Catholic from Asia and in my country (and many other countries in Asia) we do not have these kinds of problematic situations and issues involving theological arguments or disputes between some groups of bishop/priests and the Vatican. There is no "Catholic Fundamentalism" or fundamentalist characters like Taylor Marshall, Fr Altman, Church Militant etc in our countries and thank God for that. I think these kinds of problems are mostly only in existence in America... In most parts of Asia, there is no such thing as traditional or liberal Catholics. These are nonsensical terms. We are just Roman Catholics. And we pray God to let us encounter Him in our prayer, in the Eucharist and the various Sacraments, and also ask Him to give us the wisdom and strength to spread and share (share, not coerce) the gospel to people in the society, our workplace, families etc in a pastoral fashion, and of course, according to the teaching of the Church. Evangelisation is our top priority. (Not forced conversion)

[@enshala6401]

America is a weird place. 😅 It's pretty sad how polarized our people have become. I actually think that there is a lot of frustration from the conservatives about the insane leftism that has taken over so many of our institutions, and I think that they are afraid our Church will fall to leftists as well. They don't trust any Pope that appears to cede ground to causes that originated in Judaism/Christianity but have been co-opted by secular leftists - such as taking care of the poor and marginalized, taking care of our environment, paying our taxes, not being greedy, treating women with the respect we deserve, etc. But when secular leftists co-opt our principles, they distort them into something disordered... so would Pope Francis allow that to happen? That's what "radtrads" are afraid of. Thing is, they are a tiny, but very vocal minority, and we normal Catholics are doing just fine as long as we don't allow those disgruntled ones to ruin our relationship with our Savior and our Church. They are acting out of wrath - a mortal sin - and we need to pray for them. BTW, what part of Asia, may I ask? Blessings to you and yours from "The Deep South" of the USA.

[@littlerock5256]

There was just an argument or dispute between Francis and India’s Eastern rite Syro-Malabar Church.

[@enshala6401]

@littlerock5256 and now, for the rest of the story. The priests in this particular Eatern Rite faced a certain way from 1970 until 1999. When the Church tried to implement nee instructions to unify the Eastern Churches in India in 1999, some of the priests refused to change. This dispute has been going on for decades. Pope Francis appointed an envoy to resolve the dispute. In other words, the Pope is doing his job. He really is a great Pope.

[@littlerock5256]

@@enshala6401 This makes my point, that disputes are not relegated to the USA.

[@enshala6401]

@littlerock5256 OK. I mean, I think they are different in kind though. Radtrads are just angry Protestants, and they are trying to recruit people to their cause. Taylor Marshall is making bank by promulgating hatred for Pope Francis. That Indian Church is not trying to recruit people to hate Pope Francis. It's the recruitment for hatred that is the problem that is unique to the U.S., from what I've seen anyway, and this makes sense since the U.S. is really into Protestant individualism. At any rate, is the recruitment for hatred of the Pope happening anywhere outside of Protestant circles?

[@wallrusmoose2111]

I am happy that another prelate (Bishop Schneider) with charity and without naming him, corrected his brother, Fr Altman.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@silvestergerald4466]

I watched his video and as a priest, I felt disturbed by what he said. Humility sounds simple but IS so important. I remember, St. Catherine of Siena once said, "Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil! But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF GOD, and out of obedience to Him."👋

[@jackieo8693]

Good quote

[@jantelgrace452]

Humbly how obedient should we be if these demons in clerical collars are raping children. Destroying innocence and lives? Do we become complacent in evil. Do we protect the villain over the victim? I honestly ask these questions as to how far blind obedience goes. For the love of God are we not to protect the children, the innocent before they are destroyed or does God truly want blind obedience at all costs even losing souls who have been perverted by those they trusted because they were priests, pastors or bishops? God gave us a moral compass and common sense and any one with a moral conscious could not use this excuse to God that I was told to follow a pope or priest in-dwelt with demons even though I knew they were committing evil and blasphemy. Seriously can you answer me as a concerned Catholic?

[@murielkinsella3526]

It seems a bit hyperbolic to me. I'm not sure I want to be subject to too many incarnate devils.🙄 I agree with the main thrust of this video; no-one can judge a Pope except a future pope. Having said that, we are duty bound to resist him if he says anything that contradicts the magisterium. It's also our duty to pray for the pope and the Church. Fr Altman is letting his anger get the better of him, and he needs to show humility and obedience. I was impressed by Bishop Athanasius Schneider's rebuke to him. It was firm but charitable. Fr Altman needs our prayers.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

I think she was being hyperbolic as why would I submit to the devil?

[@monicamohan4720]

Dear Father: Could you please give me your source for that quote that you are attributing to St. Catherine? Thsnk you

[@vacantmemes]

sedevacantism is probably wrong rn the pope is most likely sitting down not standing up so.

[@huntsman528]

That would make it right. And in Lofton's definition, all Catholics are sedevacantists!

[@graysonguinn1943]

He was so real for this post 🙌

[@jake6132]

This is chilling. The music and church backdrop just make it more chilling. Back when he broke on the scene, I thought he was mistreated by his bishop. Now though I see the fruits of Fr. Altman's beliefs. He's made himself a Protestant while having all the trappings of an orthodox Catholic.

[@Bryanisright33]

Lots of people attack Fr Altman because they admire "Fr" James Martin and Francis appointing him to the Synod, along with their admiration for the pro-wo man priests, pro-L g 🐝 priests and bishops he has appointed to it. Thus why the Selective Ultramontanists and others deflect time and again to attacking Fr Altman instead of paying 10X as much attention (as they should) on Francis going against the church through his appointments. And these also attack Fr Altman because they support the heresies of the German bishops. All of the above shows those going after Fr Altman (while they support those things) are protestants. Luther went against all that the church had taught and in similar manner those attacking Fr Altman (who supports all that the church has taught) support those on the Synod (appointed by Francis) supporting those things that are in schism against past popes and what the church has always taught... though they may not succeed in getting them passed.

[@brittoncain5090]

Or they just realize he's in error about his claim.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@jake6132]

@@Bryanisright33 Fr. Altman's style attracts certain types of people, those who want a strong speaker who "tells it like it is", kind of like why many people like Trump. That doesn't mean, however, that Fr. Altman is right about his claims. Also, just because he's pro-life and conservative in his beliefs don't make him a great or even good Catholic. As Catholics, we owe religious submission the Roman Pontiff. He's denying the legitimate successor of St. Peter, Pope Francis, and thus has declared himself a sedevacantist. What's more ironic is that Fr. Altman loves Cardinal Burke, but Burke even acknowledges the legitimacy of Pope Francis's papacy. He needs prayers to come back from this.

[@Bryanisright33]

@@jake6132 Hasty Generalization on your part. More than others, but not in torality, Francis attracts liberals given he time and again appoints people provable who lean left more than right, his record shows he has went after "Trads" more than he has the German bishops, etc, he nominated Fr James Martin to the Synod, etc. People who didn't vote for Trump (me) see value in Altman's stances but don't agree with him lacking eloquence at times. Plus there are those who agree with R f K J r, though he supports Med 4 All and unions, who also like Altman. No one says he is always right but standing on all the church has ever taught, adhering to Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, etc, sets him apart. And being pro-abort makes one non-Catholic. You can't throw everything out and think submission to the pope is a guaranteed pass into heaven, is the automatic game-wiining card, makes those opposed to him immediately better, or magically undoes equivocation, being pro-abort, pro-l g 🐝, etc, etc. St Robert Bellarmine: “Just as it is licit to resist a Pontiff that attacks the body, it is also licit to resist (him) who attacks the soul, or who disturbs the civil order, or, above all, he who intends to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of that which he wills. ..."

[@hubertk7363]

To me, the argument of authority is always important. As we should do with heretics, so we should ask him what authority does he have to profess this. When he accepted his Holy Orders, he put his hands inside those of a bishop, promissing obedience and to excersise ministry under a bishop's authority.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@sleepystar1638]

prove the Authority of the "Pope" because the Pope have to have the faith and cannot be a heretic and if he is known to have been one before his elevation, his promotion is null and void.

[@PoppiD93]

Obedience noes not mean submission. Even Paul in the Bible scolded Peter when he was wrong and Jesus always fought the jews authorities.

[@hubertk7363]

@@PoppiD93 But Paul didn't deny the authority of Peter, he just corrected his errors, which is different from what fr. Altman does. Also, Paul was a bishop.

[@enshala6401]

@PoppiD93 you are no St Paul. Wow...

[@Kayla-ey7zg]

Everyone needs to pray for Fr Altman, he is clearly not okay.

[@germanvazquez4844]

And for all his followers

[@lulabella9249]

We are all not ok! Wretched sinners the lot of us!

[@swoosh1mil]

@@lulabella9249 Speak for yourself. I’m a repenting and contrite sinner.

[@lulabella9249]

As am I, but we are still wretched. Have you read the Imitation of Christ?

[@andrescasares5285]

​@@lulabella9249 I think he's not okay in a very different way. He honestly seems to have some personality disorder. I would argue for Narcissistic personality.

[@issemayhem]

In the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, may The Father of Truth have mercy on Fr. Altman. Amen.

[@MrBillBronx]

Thanks Trent. Once again I have admiration for the way you help us navigate the tough issues. Good work.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@billysgirl5931]

It was hard to listen to Fr. Altman. Such disrepect😢

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Yup!

[@ajbahus]

Good to see ya, Father Brown!

[@YajunYuanSDA]

Timestamp 12:11 Was the Pope who sold the Papacy still the real Pope? Was the Pope who bought the Papacy a real Pope?

[@austinlaplante4203]

I am not even Christian let alone Catholic. I watch you primarily because I enjoy the intellectual discussions and I want to understand people who have a different worldview than me. From the outside looking in it looks more and more like Sedevacantism is people having a 50+ year fit. The argument boils down to the Church is doing something I do not like so it must be in error. Which by the way is a very Protestant view to have. The opposition to Pope Francis seems to boil down to him focusing less on opposing LGBT rights shifting focus on opposing massive income/wealth inequality and saying we should focus more on combating climate change. Which then thought of as liberal and therefore people will reflexively oppose it. Despite things like advocating for the poor and wanting to make sure we don't intentionally ruin the only home we have shouldn't be political.

[@StanleyPinchak]

Climate change is a con to separate you from your money and your rights. You want to save the planet, start local and keep your neighborhood tidy. CO2 is plant food and the climate models are garbage.

[@fragwagon]

A genuine environmentalism is thoroughly Christian, and even conservative. Modern gender politics are more sinister, I think. More than meets the eye there!

[@PB_324]

He sounds mad as in the 19th century definition..

[@OrthoLou]

Except the establishment has been telling lies and using corrupt scientists to create fear mongering about some sort of climate disaster for decades. It always changes, even though it's always such an impending threat. He also advocates for socialist policies and buddies up with the WEF and disguises it as a desire to help the poor. Never charity. I'm not Catholic and I do also believe Sedevacantists are ridiculous, but I just had to make those points about Francis.

[@svenvanwier7196]

Turning to environmentalism in today’s age is purely political. You will find most of these people care more about their Tesla subsidies compared to the apple tree in the yard. I advocate for less usage of coal, but see modern environmentalists care more about decreasing the amount of gasoline cars being used. Knowing this is a global issue, one should remember where the second hand diesel cars go.

[@irin9218]

Anger leads to hatred and then to bitterness. Bitterness will eat you up. Looking at Fr Altman facial expression, intonation and glee at playing God in determining who goes to heaven and who don't, in advocating murder...pride has puffed him up so much, he has lost any sense of humility, charity and obedience. He should defrock himself and start his own church if he feels so strongly against the Pope.

[@Compulsive-Elk7103]

Glory to Jesus Christ 🙏☦️❤️

[@beaconoftruth1990]

Thank you for your voice on this topic Trent. As a seminarian during these times, it can be rough to discern these many voices in the church.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@marieloy8181]

John 14-6.

[@phocivic]

here's another voice for you to discern; keep praying! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2PYe4dvpKubm9U

[@joecanad7893]

Stick to the Baltimore Catechism, and understand that after Vatican 2 removal of the "pledge against Modernism" the Church has been flooded primarily with socialist activitst who are staining the clergy's role in the world --- you are here to save souls, not to follow bad climate science, or to assist the WHO with population extermination.

[@matthewbrakefield3378]

I used to listen to Fr. Altman every day during lockdown. But this truly breaks my heart to see. Its like seeing a superhero turn into the villain of his own story. I pray he finds his way back.

[@jiherrera7418]

Fr Altman is no villain. If he is, at most, misguided from frustration, he is not alone.

[@juld55]

Maybe he knows more than you do.

[@swoosh1mil]

Doubtful that Fr. Altman knows more.

[@bman5257]

@@juld55No. He’s obviously wrong on this point.

[@juld55]

@@bman5257 What's so obvious about it?

[@phildupuis1084]

"And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity" ...I did not hear a lot of charity in the words of Fr. Altman.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

Holy cow. Will you guys cut the nonsense with the excuses? It gets old. God didn’t tell me that I had to be a brainless smiling doll to be a Catholic, quite the opposite. If the emperor has no clothes, then be honest and say so.

[@nchinth]

@@sliglusamelius8578 agree. sick of charity. even Christ whipped the moneylenders mercilessly. "but where's the charity, Our Lord and Savior?!"

[@killianmiller6107]

You don’t have to be a brainless smiling doll, but you definitely shouldn’t hold a vicious, bitter hatred in your heart for someone like Altman appears to have for Pope Francis. He has murdered him (and probably many in communion with him) in his heart, as is explicit with the “tie a millstone around his neck and throw him in the deep blue sea”. He needs to repent of this hatred. If the Pope is worthy of honest criticism, it may or not be worthy of indignation, but always it ought to be respectful and charitable, done in the motive of love, willing the good of the other. When Noah got drunk and naked, one son bragged about it, the other two covered his nakedness and tried to preserve his shame.

[@troymazzei1140]

@@nchinth Christ did not whip them mercilessly. He was being merciful by rebuking them instead of letting them persist in sin. God doesn't take pleasure in sinners' pain. No matter how fed up one may be, we cannot be "sick of charity." That's the whole point of the Catholic life. We can and should be firm and stand up for what's right, but "if I have not love, I am just a clanging cymbal." God bless.

[@magikarp2063]

@@nchinth And did Christ propagate false accusations and slander against someone like Altman?

[@Forester-]

Sedevecantist and Liberal "Catholicism" are really just two sides of the same Protestant coin.

[@daguroswaldson257]

Are you one of those self-righteous Catholics who deems all Protestants as heretics? My goodness, you're as bad as many Protestants I know.

[@ProfDragonite]

Way is see it is, you dont have to deny Francis' validity as the Pope to say he's not a great pontiff. You can just say he's not a great pontiff, and leave it at that. We've had bad Popes before, and sadly, we'll have bad Popes in the future. That doesn't excuse Francis' dubious statments and choices, it just removes the ambiguity that many erroneous sects of Catholicism thrive on.

[@dija5578]

This Pope is doing far more damage than all of the "bad popes" put together through history. The alarm must be sound on this travesty of a Pope. He is leading millions of souls to perdition, while Trent and others treat him with kid gloves..

[@wes4736]

Exactly so. Was Eli still not a legitimate high priest, and was the Law of Moses not valid despite the corruption of him and his sons? That was the logic that had brought me out of the despair of sedevacantism.

[@TakumaNuva]

@@wes4736 Amen. Ex-sedes unite.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@TakumaNuva Why don’t you unite to censure this pope? He’s a wrecking ball to the Church.

[@zeroisnine]

I even loathe comments like these as they work of a misunderstanding of what Pope Francis has said and taught and give reverence to their local Catholic pundits the respect the papacy deserves.

[@ajessm]

The most depressing and concerning part of Fr Altmans videos was where he described with a smile, Pope Francis descending into the everlasting fires of Hell. His face reflected his elation at the prospect. Where is his compassion? Where is his humility? Has he no fear of God? Has he forgotten Matthew 7:2? "As you judge, so will you be judged."

[@rolyfirmalino3587]

Godbless. You are doing it right. Lord help us.

[@JimCvit]

I'm sorry, I just can't watch this. Listening to him makes me want to cry. Not because he's right, because he has no charity only anger and pride.

[@kimthames2531]

What about Jesus? How do you think Jesus feels about the heresy of Francis. Do everything for the love of Jesus. Defend Jesus. Defend his church.

[@jenniferhao8902]

Thank you Trent for making this. Back in 2020 I first heard Fr.Altman say you couldn’t be a democrat and be Catholic and he fired me up about my faith that I took it more seriously. I haven’t hear from him until now so I was happy to watch his video. Without the context, the music and passion of his speech moved me because I’m not that familiar with our current pope. When I saw your take on it I rushed to listen to it since I thought Fr.Altman made some good points but I go to your videos for learning more about our faith, after hearing you… boy was I wrong. As I was relistening to his video it opened my eyes and gave me chills, I didn’t even noticed him mention that the pope will surely go to hell, and no prayer for him. Thank you again for your take on this.

[@Antonio.R.O.C.]

🔥”Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” He answered, “Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:12-14 We aren’t called to follow the church blindly either‼️Were we not warned❓ 🔥”For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.” 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Are we not asked to remove these people who sin within the Catholic Church or was the Holy Spirit who spoke through the Apostles wrong❓ 🔥“For though absent in body I am present in spirit, and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment in the name of the Lord Jesus on the man who has done such a thing. When you are assembled, and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” 1 Corinthians 5:3-5 🔥”For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the Church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Drive out the wicked person from among you.””1 Corinthians 5:12-13 YES, we are called to remove ANYONE who sins within the church so if this pope has constantly sinned then YES he should be removed period‼️

[@A._150]

God bless Fr Altman. There will always be those who are blind to the truth. Hell hath prevailed against the concilier church which proves it is not the one that was founded by Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour but it is a New religion promulgated by Paul V1.

[@faithful451]

@@A._150I think you need to spend more time in prayer and contemplation friend and less time on the internet.

[@bkewig]

Fr. Altman is a false teacher and even appears demonic in some parts of the video.

[@gman_78]

You can't be a liberal democrat and Catholic i agree.

[@TheDanzman1211]

Let us pray for Fr. Altman. I noticed a change in his personality, so much anger and probably hurting because of his own conviction. I am not going to judge him but instead, fervently pray that humility reigns over him. May the Holy Spirit guide him. Amen.

[@GratiaPrima_]

Once again, saying the things that need to be said. Great video, Trent, and you were just the man to say it in love. Prayers for Father Altman to turn away from thus. And of course prayers for Pope Francis and the whole Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

[@YajunYuanSDA]

Timestamp 9:30 lol, imagine thinking Joseph consummating his marriage after the birth of Christ is as dangerous as denying Jesus is God.

[@brittoncain5090]

Rejection of either dogma is a rejection of the teaching authority of the Church.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@YajunYuanSDA]

@@brittoncain5090 Yes, rejection of any authority making absolute claims that are not implicit in divine revelation.

[@killingweston1]

Really good job on this presentation. I remember feeling really uncomfortable when I first heard Father Altman’s message about Pope Francis not being the Pope and thinking wouldn’t this apply to lots of other Popes too? Thanks for helping me make sense of it all with this video

[@littlerock5256]

Have you heard or read Archbishop Vigano's "Vitium Consensus"?

[@joecanad7893]

You are supposed to feel uncomfortable when you see someone charged with helping you achieve salvation, is leading you straight to hell through confusion, through violating Church teachings and the Traditions enforced by every Pope before him. Feel very uncomfortable... unless you stick to the Baltimore Catechism, you are going to be led potentially to hell.

[@jeremyneiderhoff]

If your first response is "Doesn't this apply to other popes as well?" and not "He's wrong," you've proven his point

[@Chispaluz]

Thank you for speaking out against this Trent! Good to see more people speaking out besides Lofton.

[@tommycox547]

Trent is a refreshing voice of reason in a world of chaos in the american arm of the catholic church

[@annap6059]

Trent is going to lead some of God's people right into the hands of the anti-christ. Don't take a "host" consecrated by a woman. It is NOT Jesus' Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. It will lead to your death. Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@grampsONeill]

Our Church will never mend and heal unless we have more real Men take a stand.The altar of St Peters must be turned in the square after Pachamama sat on it.Francis is without question our enemy

[@danamalar]

❤ Dear brother in Christ, God bless and strengthen you in your great ministry of answering, rebutting to the errors of misleading, disobedient and schismatic priests and prelates of our Catholic Church. My prayers before the blessed Sacrament for your tireless and noble work.🙏

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

This youtuber is not a canon lawyer nor a bishop.

[@danamalar]

@@rccyberwarrior2267 He is a very good theologian, all the doctors of the church and many theologians need not to be cannon lawyers or bishops.

[@annap6059]

@danamalar a theologian is anyone who studies God.

[@jd3jefferson556]

Mary, Powerful Virgin, you are the mighty and glorious Defender of the Church, you are the marvelous Help of Christians, you are awe-inspiring as an army in battle array. In the midst of our anguish struggles and distress protect us from the power of the enemy and at the hour of our death receive our souls into heaven. Amen.

[@PantalonRouge]

Thank you Trent

[@nateskinner97]

Once again: A bad president doesn’t invalidate the presidency. A bad pope doesn’t invalidate the papacy. Francis is undoubtedly a bad pope, but he is still the valid pontiff.

[@thomasbailey921]

​@@alexanderhendry5819"quick in this KZbin comment section, prove how every single pope isn't a heretic. I'll wait"

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

He is not the pope.

[@flameguy3416]

A bad president can be impeached. This Pope should be deposed. He is a disgrace and is not seeing error in his ways so he will not leave by his own accord.

[@tonyalongi4409]

If the Pope/Church can err in the present, there's no rationale for claiming the Pope/Church didn't err in the past. Sedevacantism is self-defeating this way.

[@alexcaro2009]

Thank you Trent for clarifying these important issues on our faith. Praying for Fr. Altman and Bishop Strickland. Thanking God and the Virgin Mary for the great job you do. God bless you.

[@Ryan-nv3dz]

I just read in American magazine that James Martin posted that Pope Francis is now open to blessing, same-sex unions, and Trent Horn is wasting his freaking time complaining about father Altman, God, help us So many good priests have been disciplined while , father, James Martin, just gets to keep on blasting heresies left, and right Wake up Catholics.

[@lucillejerome5511]

Blessing is not a sacrament.

[@katieann1908]

​@lucillejerome5511 but do we bless a sinful union???

[@jdotoz]

"I just read in America..." Wow, that's basically ex cathedra.

[@joy56920]

I can always count on Trent to be the voice of reason amongst all the noise. The voice of Jesus is peace, and I feel that Trent is following Jesus' voice.

[@jd3jefferson556]

Thank you so much for covering how unhinged Fr Altman has gotten. O how I pray I never lose faith, and become bitter the way he has gotten. Blessed Mother Mary, soften father Altmans heart so that he can repent and apologize to Pope Francis.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

Blessed Mother, please help Bergoglio to actually become a Catholic and to stop destroying the Church.

[@john-el9636]

​@@sliglusamelius8578Repent and take the log out of your own eye

[@jd3jefferson556]

@sliglusamelius8578 well let's try not to use prayer passive aggressively😅 Our job as a Christians is to be obedient to those who have authority over us. Unless we are told to sin, we must be obedient to our superiors. However no matter how awful those in authority are, we should still have respect for the office, and by calling our Pope, Bergolio all the time, makes you show yourself as not respecting the Pope or his sacred office. I used to be the same way, but trust me, we can't be Christian without obedience and respect to those in authority over us. Especially in Christs Church.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@jd3jefferson556 I used prayer exactly as you did.

[@john-el9636]

@@sliglusamelius8578 No, you're insinuating that you know the heart of the Holy Father in your prayer.

[@lifeisajourney2642]

If appointments are taken into account, Jesus did the biggest mistake taking Judas in knowing the future

[@idankpoaugustine1983]

Very true.😂

[@twoody9760]

Jesus never makes mistakes. He used Judas' treason in order to freely give of Himself for our salvation.

[@user-wo2kr1gu1c]

VERY TRUE TRENT, no matter what Pope Francis says or do he is still the pope voted by our cardinals. Pope Francis may be a bad father to the church, he is still the father of our Catholic church. God put him in that position and we are to HAVE FAITH that God will take care of our Church as our Lord Jesus had promised, " the gates of hell will not prevail against it ". The only thing we the laity will do is pray for our pope, our bishops, cardinals and priests. We know that the devil's strength is strong at the moment on our church, we still KEEP our FAITH ON OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO FOUNDED OUR CATHOLIC CHURCH. We do not know why our Lord Jesus is allowing this in our Church but we have to keep faith on our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@HumbleDirtMerchant]

No bookshelf! How can I as a viewer know you know stuff? 😉

[@tomgjokaj]

This was Great God bless you Trent. 🙏

[@sbanach]

The Gish Gallop makes its triumphant return. Great video as always, Trent!

[@christinehurley7448]

I believe that Pope Benedict XVI was criminally forced to resign the office of Pope and did so by means of a letter he read to a meeting of Cardinals, not assembled in Conclave, and that the resignation was not valid. - BISHOP RENE GRACIDA

[@josephgudge6685]

Fr. Altman is angry. Bitter. It comes across in his words; his deeds. He is hurt and lashing out. He needs our prayers and love.

[@zeenkosis]

Yup

[@andrewpruett3719]

I prefer the darker set for what it is worth.

[@JaySeamus]

Tbh yes.

[@juanjosefortin3828]

X2

[@KhaziJKG]

Great studio. God bless you and all the work you do Mr. Horn. Top 3 Catholic youtubers

[@theolitocaramba4464]

Who are the other two?

[@qwerty20000000003]

​@@theolitocaramba4464The ones in the thumbnail, of course

[@idankpoaugustine1983]

​@@theolitocaramba4464Jimmy Akin and Joe Heschmeyer. Very charitable, very intelligent, very humble. Pints with Aquinas is good too, but he is at times very reactionary in my opinion and says things just to get a reaction at times. Of course, it's easier to make small mistake in a conversation than in a scripted talk.

[@annap6059]

Trent is an arrogant fool who will lead many astray if he doesn’t repent from his ego. Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

Many online theologians or self proclaimed experts are CIA sponsored. Only priests or bishops should be teaching the Catholic faith.

[@elysiumcatholic]

I was hoping you'd comment on this! Thank you as always for your charitable rebuttal. I was horrified when Father Altman said Pope Francis should be damned and that it "cannot happen soon enough"! I pray for the Pope's soul every day...he should too.

[@niftyspiffyguy]

I was worried for the parish he was at but rewatched the start to confirm he was removed from office of ministry. That’s sad, and I hope that parish can have a speedy & healthy recovery from such a priest. What is a layperson to do if such falsehoods are preached in a situation as serious as this? Contact the archdiocese and attend a different parish (if one is available?)

[@-GodIsMyJudge-]

Truth be told, he didn't start out this way, nor did he hold this position when he was removed from his parish. He originally got in trouble for saying that his parishioners should not vote for anyone who supports abortion, and for resisting the covid 19 inoculation mandates and the shut down of parishes. I think being removed from his parish (especially considering some priests are being promoted despite holding heterodox beliefs), plus all the crises the Church is facing, just finally got to him. :'/

[@RomicBianchi]

​@@-GodIsMyJudge-He got in trouble for a few things: Saying Catholics couldn't be Democrats and that they were going to Hell He resised fraternal correction from Bishop Callahan. Altman doubled down. His faculties were eventually removed, as the ability to present himself as a priest. He should not dress like one.

[@MrPeach1]

It's so weird that people use his last name like its a slur. I can only imagine what it would be like if people would use my last name like that. I would probably think yeah thats my last name ok...

[@HimekoIzayoi]

When I grow up I wanna be as cool as Trent.

[@misterkittyandfriends1441]

Being a mediocre or bad pope does not make one not a real pope.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

He’s real alright, a real disaster.

[@DigitallySaved]

​@sliglusamelius8578 he is still the Pope. Compared to others in the past, he is still a Saint.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@DigitallySaved Other corrupt popes were corrupt in private. This pope is actively undermining the culture of the Church. He went to Canada and apologized for the fake news about mass graves of indigenous children, and Canada responded by burning 80 Catholic Churches to the ground. Similar lies were told in Ireland and churches were burned. The pope is absent when catholic countries vote to approve abortion. He never goes there to speak against these referendums beforehand. Why is that do you suppose? He’s a deceiver.

[@jessechan5776]

It's the strong choice of the words by Fr Altman. But make ni mistake Pope Francis indeed committed heretic word and deed. The most dangerous is his penchant for ambiguous teaching. A half-truth is worse than a liar.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@jessechan5776 Amen Jesse, you have a brain! Thanks for that, I’m starting to think that Dietrich Bonhoeffer was correct: evil flourishes because people are stupid.

[@donaldkalinowski9736]

I have enjoyed Trent Horn's articulate and thoughtful works (written and video podcasts, etc). I don't think Trent is making excuses for the current occupier of the Seat of Peter. I don't like the pejorative term, 'pope-splaining' and think it lowers the discussion level. I did however, hope for much more in this video and others regarding Pope Francis (Bergoglio). It really feels like Trent is doing exactly what he is warning are the problems of Father Altman's rants. Just as Father Altman may be being myopic in his view of this pontificate, so too may people like Trent Horn. Standing in the middle here, and wanting the church to thrive for both those bearded Latin Mass people with 10 kids, and the hippies with their acoustic guitars singing songs written by openly gay Jesuits (and former Jesuits) still in our song books; I want a pope who isn't so divisive. I just want people like Trent to show us out here who keep saying, "What the heck?" to so many things this pope does, a little understanding. Watching this video actually made me understand Father Altman's anger even more. I am not saying Bergoglio isn't the pope, but I sure feel like Trent is playing the "Yes, the emperor has clothes," act when we are seeing things happen that are very disturbing.

[@lukeknott2779]

I dig the new setup. As always, super appreciative of your content Trent!!!

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@marilynmelzian7370]

I see your point, but ironically, your defense undercuts the papacy as a whole, or at least the idea of the pope as a spiritual leader. And there is one instance in which I do think Pope Francis is moving toward heresy. This is shown in his repudiation of the death penalty. Underneath his decision is an attitude that the modern era is more enlightened and therefore the truth of the past and of scripture can be set aside because we know better.

[@derechoplano]

I think the death penalty is an abuse of power because the Pope cannot change morality. But the communion of the "remarried" is worse, because Francis is contradicting the words of Jesus.

[@PeterApologetics]

You are right Trent, we are upset at the way you popexplain everything in defense of the pope (I know he is the pope) I hope you can write a letter to the five Cardinals who just sent another Dubia to francis and please popexplain to them too.

[@guidohlizzi06]

And yes, he denied the existence of hell in Spanish more than once.

[@danien37]

you can see in his face he's crazy

[@bobblacka918]

(Matthew 9) "While Jesus was having dinner, many sinners came and ate with him. The Pharisees asked, “Why does your teacher eat with sinners?” On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” To those who question why Pope Francis eats with sinners, did it not occur to you that he is calling sinners to repentance by engaging with them?

[@Catholicity-uw2yb]

ST. FRANCIS DE SALES: “Everyone paints devotion according to his own passions and fancies. A man given to fasting thinks himself very devout if he fasts, although his heart may be filled with hatred. A man doesn’t dare wet his tongue with wine or even water but won’t hesitate to drink deep of his neighbor’s blood by slander, vilification, and gossip. Another man thinks himself devout because he daily recites a vast number of prayers, but after saying them he utters the most disagreeable, arrogant and harmful words at home and among his neighbors.”

[@gunsgalore7571]

Trent Horn is probably the only channel on KZbin that I press that like video for every single video I see.

[@thecatholicdad]

Awe man I liked the old setup, but this one is nice too.

[@bullyboy131]

Great take Trent. We need to pray for Father Altman and all who think Pope Francis is a heretic based on the evidence they are presenting to repent. We also need to pray for those who think Pope Francis is perfect to realize he is human. It seems Fr. Altman has set the bar of 20 things a Pope does that is confusing or in error to be called a heretic. Has often has the Pope's in the past made seemingly serious errors? In regards to the Vatican closing parishes, they need to realize how hard, small, and good it was to start a parish. The parish will typically grow large, and then seem to dwindle after many years. Parishes should downsize (go back to the start) before the Vatican evem thinks of closing them.

[@crusader333ad]

Benedict did not resign validly. Bergoglio was “elected” at an invalid conclave.

[@amanotadequebranto]

the funniest thing is that he calls Mother Theresa a saint even though she was canonized by Francis

[@StanleyPinchak]

What is up with all the fast tracked saints post Vatican II? It used to take hundreds of years for non martyrs to achieve first lasting cults, then approved miracles and finally official beatification. Why has modernization corrupted even this aspect of the Church?

[@thomasbailey921]

​@@StanleyPinchakdo you know how the canonization process works? You cannot "fast track" TWO approved miracles for someone, that can only come from God. If someone became saint shortly after death it's because they had multiple miracles attributed to their intercession shortly after death. If you want to know why it seems to be so much faster, maybe it's because information travels so much faster now. Instead of taking years for rumors to spread of a holy man or woman, we can all see videos of them or read their works in a matter of instants.

[@ConnieRossini]

​@@StanleyPinchakthe shortest canonization process for any saint was in the 13th century with Peter of Verona. Anthony of Padua was canonized 11 months after his death. Teresa of Avila and many other saints of Medieval and Counter-Reformation times were also canonized quickly.

[@MrAnomic]

At least, you're now implying that Francis is a bad Pope. That's progress. Maybe you should stop defending him now. If a woman is drawn to have children and is willing to risk her health/life for the life of her unborn child for love of her children, then that's her and her husband's decision before God, not Francis' or Trent Horn's. Francis didn't know much of anything about this person, didn't know her actual risk at giving birth to her eighth child, he didn't know her medical condition if she has any unreasonable risk of an eighth c-section, he wasn't there when she spoke to her doctors, he knows practically nothing about her or her specific and actual risk. Francis should have no say in it, he should keep his trap shut! It's not a sin to risk childbirth under any circumstance. Every childbirth is a risk to both Mother and child, from the first to the last. If everyone avoided every risk of death or injury in childbirth, or balked at the first sign of an increase in complication rates, then there'd be practically no children. I was born under such increased risk of my Mother's health/life. And I'm forever grateful for her love in having me.

[@aracelynavarro976]

Thank you for this Trent! Let’s come in union as one holy Catholic Church to pray for the pope and all clergy!

[@jenniferolg]

Thank you, Trent Horn! My only complaint is that this was so long in coming!

[@pollsfriend]

I’m interested in who’s funding Altman. The video production quality is really good.

[@ntmn8444]

Thank you for this video, Trent! It’s about time you started speaking out against this heresy.

[@Bryanisright33]

Pffft. Throughout history, in 1045-46, before then and after then, throughout history, various popes were openly called anti-popes or whatever the term was applied at those times. They weren't maligned as being heretics for publicly stating their opinion he was an antipope, but there weren't the Selective Ultramontanists then either running interference instead of freely allowing all to be said, replying with how they believed he wasn't an antipope, and then followed by a vote to keep or remove. Simple enough.

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@RogerCanda]

@@drjanitor3747 oh ya? Like what? I listen many to his videos… so far everything seems fine.

[@enshala6401]

@RogerCanda eh, from his other comments, janitor is a Bro Dimond Bro - a Sedevacantist. Good luck trying to get a straight answer from him about anything.

[@qwer8907]

Bergolia is the heretic

[@ToxicPea]

I deeply respect Fr. Altman for the video he made that went viral a couple of months ago, but it's really wonderful that you would correct him on this important matter Trent! We are called to love our Pope, even if sometimes we may not agree with how he handles situations or if he himself makes mistakes. That's why we pray for him every day 🙏

[@berwynsigns4115]

What was the video a couple months ago?

[@annap6059]

Here is the Canon. Bergoglio is not the Pope. The penalties for the crime of heresy include automatic excommunication (Canon 1364 §1); for clerics, automatic removal from any ecclesiastical office that the heretic might have possessed (Canon 194 §1, no. 2); for religious, automatic expulsion from their religious order (Canon 694, §1, no. 1). (from a brilliant theologians blog👇) A gnostic-myth floating around Catholic circles today that a heretic in the hierarchy can only be recognized by either a group of Cardinals or an obsolete battery of canonical trials. While it is true that the saints seem to delineate between “material heresy” (small points) and “manifest heresy” (obvious heresy) the latter is held by saints to be easily-identified by your average faithful lay-man or lay-woman living in sanctifying grace. To believe secret wisdom on recognizing orthodoxy belongs to a shifty group of Cardinals is peak-gnosticism. (Gnosticism is the old and tired heresy that only a certain group of “enlightened-elites” have access to “secret” divine-knowledge.) Rather, the Catholic Church has always taught you only need the true faith and blue-collar common-sense to identify a manifest heretic. This means you do not need a group of Cardinals behind you with “an imperfect council” or canonists forming a “canonical trial” to recognize an obvious enemy of the Catholic faith. (This is important because a manifest-heretic, by definition, ceases not only to be a member of the hierarchy, but even a member of the Catholic Church.) Although a “material-heretic” could historically be judged a “formal-heretic” only by a canonical trial, Fr. Paul Kramer asserts in his recent book that “any prelate can be judged for heresy by his inferiors” in regards to obvious (or manifest) heresy. In other words, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck-it is a duck! And, as such, “the duck” heretic must be avoided as a non-Catholic intruder (even if he purports himself to be part of the hierarchy) by your average member of the lay-faithful. (The key-word here is faithful, as in catechized and orthodox.) Fr. Paul Kramer quotes early saints and later Popes to prove this: Pope Gregory XVI…explicitly cites Ballerini’s doctrine as the basis for his own position on this question; and Ballerini’s teaching is most clearly stated in the following passage: “For any person, even a private person, the words of Saint Paul to Titus hold: ‘A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he that is such a one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.’ (Tit. 3, 10-11).

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

Why did God strike the Vatican with lightening twice when Pope Benedict resigned?

[@ToxicPea]

@@rccyberwarrior2267 while we can never no for certain, that sounds like Divine providence if I've ever heard it.

[@user-wo2kr1gu1c]

Thank you Trent for having this talks because YES some weak Catholics or new converts will be led to go astray/ away from the the Catholic church because of talks like Father Altman but we know saints like Father Pio who had shown us the way to acceptance when some of our pope or bishops do not do what they are suppose to do as leaders of our church. Jesus' promise is our strength in this time of confusion. The Holy Eucharist will never leave us even if our pope lead us astray. I will always be a Catholic till the day I die. Only the Rosary prayer will keep us faithful to Jesus and His Catholic church. I pray for all priests including Father Altman and those priests who were not treated right by the Catholic hierarchy, we all should include them in our prayers.

[@joedelisle1495]

I have one question for all those who accuse Fr. Altman of being angry or uncharitable. Have you met him and do you know that he takes care of his elderly parents? Like many silenced priests, Fr. James Altman has edified the Faith of millions and given them peace in troubling times. For this, he must be commended.

[@RomicBianchi]

Many of us are taking care of elderly parents. It's what God wants us to do. He actually spends a lot of time traveling and speaking. He isn't obeying his bishop in most matters.

[@martinez838]

That doesn't change Altman's sinful ways

[@jdotoz]

Good for him. You can do good things alongside evil things.

[@japokponents1]

Crisis in the Church - this will pass. Let us pray, fast and make sacrifices for the conversion of everyone. Use the weapon, the Holy Rosary and let us visit the Holy Eucharist more to protect us from fallacies and trust in God’s guidance in our journey back to His Kingdom. Let’s tell Jesus we are all defective and need His grace and mercy. The battle is intensified and will intensify more but God’s love for us will guide us to safety.

[@paulblum4369]

Thanks for the rebuttal, Trent! Definitely needs to be addressed!

[@crusader333ad]

Canonists and Latin experts have said from 2013 that B16 did not resign validly. The evidence is enormous. That makes Bergoglio invalid even if he were a great pope which he’s obviously not.

[@oldfashioned9461]

Thank you Trent! Appreciate you discussing this topic.

[@glennyskitchen9491]

I am praying the Divine Mercy every day for the Pope, the church and for more vocations to priesthood and nuns! Lord, have mercy on your church!

[@fragwagon]

Amen! Pray for conversions, pray for impossible conversions.

[@pjelpers]

Thank you Trent. I'm sure you'll be labeled a popesplainer by many for this... but when it comes to Protestantism, all Catholics should be considered popesplainers. Just depends on your frame of reference I guess, and sadly I think Altman is embracing errors in the name of righteous anger. Both he and the pope need our prayers.

[@fragwagon]

Popesplainer sounds like a modern protestant slur. File it with mackerel snappers and all the rest.

[@LRG396]

I've never thought the Pope isn't the Pope, but I do think that in this times all organization, and even more the Catholic Church, need strong leaders who don't need an army of theologians to clarify the confusion they create every time they say a word.

[@patsyadams1833]

It is really dark. I am not a Catholic but I hope that all Catholics reading this will hang on in there, all things must pass.

[@fritzimperial9210]

The issue of modernity in the Church is serious and I think is the great heresy of our time. But when people like Fr. Altman, who do have legitimate concerns about the current state of the Church do this, it prevents these issues from being addressed

[@sliglusamelius8578]

No, Altman has the guts to call him out. I don’t agree with his strident language, but Bergoglio is up to no good.

[@fritzimperial9210]

@@sliglusamelius8578 you can disagree with Pope Francis while still accepting he's the Pope.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@fritzimperial9210 Oh he’s the pope alright. I’m not a sede, I’m a realist.

[@zeroisnine]

​@@sliglusamelius8578disrespect

[@YajunYuanSDA]

@@fritzimperial9210 Timestamp 12:11 Was the Pope who sold the Papacy still the real Pope? Was the Pope who bought the Papacy a real Pope?