WHY I DON'T USE BARRIER RINGS! / OSTOMY DIARIES

Hey ya'll! The barrier rings were NOT working for me due to some scars I have around my stoma. They work GREAT for some people, but in this video I share my experience and what I use in place of the rings!
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[@farmerjohn2262]

As a recent ostomy patient, the Hollister Adapt stoma paste was a game changer! No more leakage and I can make an ostomy bag last for several days. Saves you lots of money on your ostomy supplies. 👍

[@patriciadavis1393]

As if going through the surgery wasn't enough I had an ostomy almost 15 years ago because my bowel burst and I woke up in the hospital with an ostomy four or five days later and I know nothing I know nobody with an ostomy and it's only in the last year that I discovered there's ostomy channels❤❤❤❤ they definitely help thank you

[@jamierichard8631]

I was in a similar boat. I knew nothing and neither did most of the nurses at the hospital. I have learned mostly from trial and error. 😅 I love these channels, they are so helpful.

[@patriciadavis1393]

@@jamierichard8631 hi my name is Patricia and I live in Toronto and I am a senior and in Canada you get two small ostomy payments a year and it nowhere covers what you need for even a few months I recently found on Amazon from a Chinese medical firm that's does one piece ostomy bags for only $2 each I wasn't expecting much to be honest but I was so surprised they are lasting longer during IBS attacks then Hollister or coloplast if you're interested in knowing the details on be happy to tell you Happy New Year

[@suebennett9347]

My husband had ostomy surgery last November and upon arriving home we tried a few different things for a couple of weeks. The paste and the rings as well. Both worked good for him but we settled on the rings because it was easier and worked well for him. It inabled him to get five days before changing out his appliance, and he never has any problems.. Fortunately he is a candidate for a reversal and is indeed getting it done very soon.

[@deniseweimer323]

I’m supposed to get reversal in Aug. I can’t wait. Good luck to him.

[@louisetodd7253]

@@deniseweimer323same girl 😊

[@jeffernoodle8652]

​@@deniseweimer323how did it go? I just got my illiostomy a couple weeks ago and will hopefully have mine reversed next year.

[@katherinebourke171]

​@@deniseweimer323My husband is supposed to be getting his reversed in September ❤

[@michaelpapanekconsulting]

@@deniseweimer323 how dd the reveral go?

[@tommycutler2032]

I've had my bag for 2 weeks and so far it's going well but watching you is a life saver your an amazing person thanks for the videos Peace & Love!

[@trishm5805]

Sounds like your recovery was a tough road! It's good to know that you made it through and that things are going well at this point. I'm a bit past 1.5 years from my surgery and doing well (although I had an infection from the drain, immediately post-surgery). I know this might not help in your case due to the skin contours, but I have found that cutting the rings in half (so you have 2 "U" shapes) before I apply them makes the seal around my stoma last--without any seepage--for 5 days. When I initially tried to use the rings whole, I wasn't getting consistent results. You don't know how much I appreciate you and the other youtube osto-mates! I have learned so much and been encouraged here! Thanks for sharing your story, struggles and all.

[@clos2thedge]

Your videos are great and help a lot of people. I have had a very different experience with the barrier rings. I was having leaking problems to the point where I had a lot of anxiety about it. I dug into my bag of supplies I was given at the hospital and saw the barrier rings. They have been a life changer for me. I was told initially that you could break a piece off and put it on a low spot where a leak might be occurring, but I use the whole ring. I just apply it to the back of my barrier, then after applying my bag I heat it up with a blow dryer and put pressure on it to insure a good seal. I went from changing my bag every 3 days (sometimes more often because of leaks), to once a week now. I've been using them for about a year, and only a couple leaks, one of them due to a faulty bag. I don't really worry much about leaks anymore, and we all know how liberating that can be. Thanks again for posting your videos, you are helping a lot of people.

[@stephE80]

Same, I use the entire ring and I warm it up [by holding in my armpit] while I'm getting prepping and cleaning my supplies and stoma and then after applying everything I warm it all up with my heating pad at night and it helps to seal it all to get at least 3-4 days of wear time

[@barbarawolcott6999]

I use the barrier rings and have had no leaks. My problem with my colostomy is pancaking no matter how much lubricant I use. Would love to just change bags as often as I would like.

[@Top-g919]

Thank you for your positive way of informing us how to manage our ostomys

[@edpriolo]

Thank you for these videos. I just had surgery last week and I feel really low. I'm happy to see you smiling and dealing with this. I love your Tennessee accent. I lived in Knoxville for a year and it was the best state I've ever lived in

[@kellyolson1952]

Be kind to yourself. It’s a huge adjustment even more so if it is permanent like I have. Don’t worry, the confidence and happiness comes. I was so much happier once I realized how much better my quality of life is. I am not rushing to bathroom 20 times a day.

[@joshsimpson79]

Thanks for the helpful videos. I’ve had a colostomy for three months, and I’ve definitely learned along the way. I had my first irritated skin issue a couple of weeks ago. Thankfully, experimenting with wax rings and paste have helped.

[@matthewbradshaw1087]

Thank you Amber. I can not get a consistent seal with the wax seals. Sometimes it's good sometimes terrible. If I get output touching the skin around my stoma I get sores which make it hard for my seal to stick. So... I am looking forward to trying a paste from coloplast. I wouldn't have thought of this if it wasn't for your vlog. I have been an ostamate for just over two years now and had this problem regularly. So thanks for the top tip and thanks for your positive vlogs and making me smile as well as being informative. Much love from the English Lake District. 🙂👍

[@dawniej7253]

Thank you Amber! This video has been so helpful! I had the same issue.

[@Southamk1]

Thank you for these informative videos. I have a new colostomy and your videos have really helped me.

[@bigG88]

Totally agree! The rings gave me way more problems than solutions. Thanks for posting!

[@OstomyDiaries]

😊😊

[@ileostomyuser]

These videos are so great! Thank you for them! I know that for some people rings are better, and for other people, paste is better. But when I'm talking ONLY about the residue when you remove it, I get way more caked up residue when I remove paste than when I remove a wax ring.

[@yorkiemom4498]

I hated using them at first until I figured out the secret to these is a hair dryer. Warm up the barrier before applying to the wafer and after you peel it Off run warm water over the residue then add adhesive remover works like a charm. I have pyoderma gangrenosum a rare skin condition which causes open wounds. These work well for me.

[@SINOvideos]

Thank you so much for sharing. My wife came home with an ostomy and ive been helping her and this kind if video is a huge help.

[@chasduster]

You are so sweet , I have had some issues as well... I am ditching my rings and trying this paste .. thanks for these vids

[@puddytat30141]

I started out using adapt paste but kept having blowouts and made huge messes. I stumbled on the rings and love them a lot. They’ve saved me so much embarrassment. Like you said they work for some and not others. Guess I’m one of the lucky ones.

[@Nelldivine]

You are a source of inspiration to me❤️

[@michelebreen1705]

You are such a blessing and help ❤

[@echase416]

The Hollister Adapt ostomy paste burns my skin. It has a strong chemical odor, as well. However, the ostomy powder has been soothing for around my stoma. Using the ostomy powder first, before the ostomy paste, has been helpful and protective.

[@wmden1]

I really sympathize about the bad skin problems, after surgery. I'm sure that problem, on top of everything else, was very tough to manage. Tough lady. The wax rings don't work for me, either. They make the bag twice as likely to start leaking, or just blow off, especially when bending over, or while sleeping. Thanks for the info. I will try the Adept paste.

[@AdamB12]

I found the barrier rings wonderfully useful, especially someone like me who's overweight. Paste would just fall apart on me when I used it. Ostomies are trial and error the first few months, no doubt. Had an ileostomy myself for nearly a year.

[@paulgrudowski7485]

Love your videos you seem really down to earth and nice person . 👍🏻👍🏻

[@lisacurrier1504]

GIRRRRL, YOU MAY HAVE JUST SOLVED A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR ME! ❤️

[@katherinebourke171]

Thank you for this video. I'm going to share this with my husband ❤

[@cockeyedoptimista]

Thank you! You are so cute. Appreciate your video very much, even though it's a few years old now. It's all new to me, thank you.

[@michelebreen1705]

Oh my word. I have tried every paste there is. It is way to messy. Happy it works for you.

[@nandakini]

Very Helpful. Thank you!

[@michaelsix9684]

when I do bag change, I bathe, wash area around stoma, let it air out and use Calmoseptine ointment very thin layer to help with skin irritations, rub it in, and let set then put bag on

[@dna2405]

I use a wax barrier sometimes, and sometimes I don’t. I use the paste mostly. But always a 2 pc. Also I use this I’ve had bad diaper rash. Bleeding n all. Use A+D when changing your waffle. As long as you can. Then wipe it off. Then get and use the powder. It’s a game changer for people that sweat or work hard. It was so bad. I got some advice from another post. Thanks to you all!

[@grammiekats8771]

Thank you for this helpful information

[@michaelhillier1377]

Great info. Thanks.

[@1915FadedBelly]

I hate fuss. I use a Salts Aloe Seal, it’s quite thin and moulds beautifully. I also use a dab of Dansac skin crème dried off with a dryer. I cannot use thick rings, they play havoc with my skin. 7 years and not one leak. I’m so lucky.

[@laureentaylor8437]

Thank you Amber just love your videos.

[@OstomyDiaries]

Thank you!! 😊

[@user-qi7bf7jk1i]

Only 2 weeks into my colostomy and the 1st week I was a wreck,low, depressed - scared living alone.But you have helped me with these videos and although of course I hate it I know I that its trial by error & I pray it's not for life.My nurse said sometime its better with the least ammount of products..I do use the border strips & so far its good.But I haven't really left my house but for ten minutes..Im testing it out 😮😮

[@kellyolson1952]

I am the opposite. I can’t use the paste cause it feels like acid on my peristomal skin. My stoma nurse was a life saver. I was having trouble at first with my bags leaking many times a day or blowing out and my stoma nurse helped me with barrier rings and extra sticky adhesive spray and healing up my skin.

[@uzokweconfidence254]

Please can I know the name of the adhesive spray?

[@Teddibere1]

Amber....The paste just "disappears" on me in a day, due to my quite "liquidy" output, leaving skin directly around the stoma unprotected!! Yes, I apply enough paste, but not too much - and my appliance is well cut to my stoma opening size. I also tried using EXACTLY as you said, with 3M Barrier Spray too. There's No way I could leave a bag on using just paste under the wafer for 5 days??

[@katherinebourke171]

My husband has been having the same problem. It's slowly healing, but every now and then, we get a new blister that later turns to an open wound. It's almost been a month, so hopefully, his will clear up too after his stiches inside are completely gone.

[@montanamornings8526]

Thank you.

[@greghodson2148]

Wow I have just informed my Stoma Nurses that I am now up to day 124 living with excoriated skin and bleeding around my stoma. I do have a small tube of the paste which after watching this I will try. I am now heading towards a reversal date of 6th June I need to get this area cleared of bleeding and excoriating skin before my operation. Let hope it gets better by then fingers crossed

[@tifahxx]

I used them a couple of times they were great till they started sticking to the skin

[@KC-yd4tr]

Thanks I hate using skin barrier rings I’ll try the paste and the skin barrier spray love your videos

[@OstomyDiaries]

I hope it helps you! 😃

[@donaldmendes184]

We're I get leaks is while sleeping, ever since my operation , I only sleep in my recliner chair, it's cause by gas in my system, witch I get blow outs occasionally, but not to ofen , especially if don't eat after 8 pm.

[@aishaliane]

Your videos have helped me so much! I had stage 4 endometriosis of the colon and rectum and had to have an ileostomy that I was very unprepared for. I'm 2.5 weeks post op and the bar is causing a very painful sore. The barrier ring adds more pressure and pain. I will try using the paste tonight. Thank you!

[@OstomyDiaries]

You are so welcome! I hope you are feeling okay! 💚💜

[@aishaliane]

@@OstomyDiaries The bar was removed 2 weeks ago. I've had a lot of progress now that it's out.

[@thingstodoinflorida9532]

Thanks

[@jeffreyspiewak8729]

Hi, a couple questions if you have a moment please ? How do you keep your your weight up ? I am a 6ft 115lb male that cannot seem to put on any weight. I eat approx 8 small meals a day though, total I bet I only get 1500 calories. However 100mg of protein dly. In order for the dr. to reverse my stoma I have to get above 130lbs. P rotien is helping keep my muscle and virtually no body fat but I'm so thin. I also have mild case of chronic pancreatitis, which makes it hard to eat what I want...pizza,burgers etc. Also I lose sleep because my bag doesn't stay connected all night. Some nights, the bag comes away and I wake up with a mess on my belly, which, as you can imagine makes it hard to get back to sleep. I saw your video about wax-rings and why you don't use them however I didn't hear anything about adhesive problems ? There's no adhesive properties they say to the paste's, so was wondering how the paste works when placing it directly on the back of the bag ? And the adhesive glues give me a bad rash; I use the silicone barrier strips instead of the glue barrier strip however the silicone doesn't stay when the body heats up...?

[@chronicallymet]

Girl I love your videos and you inspire me to trust the Lord with all my heart. I didn't know I would be here same ages as you but I'm here with you and God. I also love some good ol' osteomy humor. My stoma's name is Squirt (from finding Nemo) and I always say I've got better manners because I don't toot in public. With love 2:48 ish I'd love to know if someone was trying to get their game in this.

[@lilysfield560]

Me too! I just discovered this channel and praising the Lord for it! Thank you! I would love to hear your God stories as they relate to your stoma journey. I am a wee bit older than you and live in Australia. I got my stoma due to colorectal cancer seven years ago. Keep. Keep making videos ... they are fabulous xx

[@michaelbozinovski9357]

Thank you so much for helping I’m just having so many leaks just so frustrated with my weeping skin right now

[@jeffreyspiewak8729]

Hi Mike, I'm with you on the leaks! So grose! Poop out my butt for 45yrs to wake up bagged is a nightmare, no doubt. But I'm learning to cope. I use the wax rings only because I haven't found a better way to go yet. I wasn't using them at all and found that that was part of MY problem. My other problem is I'm under weight and cannot get above 115. I'm a 6ft 115lb male. I have chronic pancreatitis and that makes it harder to eat what I like, pizza and fast-food. So I drink a lot of protein shakes and fat free peanut butter sandwiches, chicken etc. But my big problem is keeping the bag in place at night while sleeping- the elastic flanges cause skin irritations because of the glue...

[@TO-ro7mb]

@@jeffreyspiewak8729 i hope you're feeling better. You should not be eating anything that is fat free. You need to eat whole milk PLAIN yogurt, avacados, beef, preferably rib eye which has the good fats. Godspeed

[@matthewwarren8310]

I want to try this sometime lol it did take me along time to get the wax rings to seal blow dryer works wonders if anyone wants to keep trying them but Im going to try to get good at this method incase I'm without rings for whatever reason

[@SuperRemmy10]

What did you use to have the sores heal. I currently have the same challenge.

[@blessed134]

Owe❤️ the picture 🥺

[@arevir68rivera]

You are precious! 🌹

[@Nazareth434]

pastes are ok but dissolve quick- i can only get about a day, and it's disappeared right around the stoma (lasts a bit longer out further from stoma)- We need a strong glue to cement the pouch to skin- the ones that are on market now are basically either latex or silicon, and they break down very quickly too- have tried everything -but to no avail=- the paste probably does the best- but still inadequate for iliostomies- only get a day- trying to go to risks leaks for sure- even at 1 day, it sometimes doesn't seal well- sure wish there was a strong glue even if it needed a remover to remove- would like the security of knowing the pouch is practically welded onto skin and wont leak regardless of activity or sweating- -

[@mariankelly8224]

I'm with you on that one. For the past couple of months I've been having trouble keeping the bag secure. It stresses me out. 3 days is a triumph for me.

[@TUYETVU-bf7co]

Thanh’s for sharing.

[@majorwhite51]

Hi beeeeeeeeeeautiful lady, just before my surgery, a friend from a channel like yours, sent me a message "best if luck for tomorrow's operation and remember, bladders are so last year 😊 humour is a great help

[@skyhawk61]

Did my first barrier change for my wife tonight and I’m a nervous wreck. We got it on after lots of fumbling even after I reviewed a few youtube videos about ileostomy bag changes. My question: you mentioned a spray on skin barrier also an alcohol free paste. Could you mention the brands again? And I used the barrier ring that came with the Hollister kit. I sort of screwed it up a bit but I think I got it on ok. So far no leaks. Changing the bag was ok but the barrier change(1st time) was nerve wracking to me. Nurse coming day after tomorrow to show me how to get it done. We had to do it tonight because the barrier was starting to peel off. I’m gonna get it right yet. Just hope my skittishness doesn’t get to my wife too much. BTW I loved your approach to the subject.

[@Brandon-or9hv]

I was way nervous the first time I changed out my ileostomy system on my own the first time.

[@Teddibere1]

The no-sting Barrier Paste is called BRAVA Paste and it is made by Coloplast. The spray on skin barrier is called 3M Barrier Spray.....by 3M. A company called TRIO make a Barrier Spray called ELISSE, which acts as a barrier spray BUT ALSO, it helps the appliance stick on better!! There are reviews on here about TRIO ELISSE. Hope this helps.

[@yodysworld-yodalysvasquez711]

Im on your steps now... had an ileostomy recently and we are a mess changing the bags... I usually get very nervous.

[@josephlim7778]

Coloplast may be a good brand

[@michaelporcari8542]

It will get better,1st time I was nervous

[@bbaker904baker7]

I am 4 weeks post surgery and in the past 2 weeks I have been fighting leaks. I am going thru a wafer a day. In the hospital the ostomy nurse had me use a ring. That was fine until my stoma shrunk and suddenly stitches and lumps stuck up all around the base. Ostomy nurse thought I was cutting wafer too small and put one on me cut larger and out of round with a thick eakin ring. That set up caused my first blow out. Like said in the video I can not get anything to stick on thos stitches and bumps. I tried putting a thin layer of paste around my stoma then putting on wafer with ring molded to the opening. Again about 24 hrs is all I could get. When removed the paste was gone and poo had gone under ring. I changed it in time to prevent skin break down. It still stung touching. Tonight I am trying just a little paste. Again a thin layer directly over the stitches around the base. I went back to my messured opening size. Then put a thin bead around wafer opening. My stoma is a good outee. It's flatter on top and slightly concave under. Wider at the bottom than top. What I find is the rings do swell when wet by design. But for me this lifts the wafer causing a gap allowing more poo to reach the ring. Slowly the ring swells so much the wafer is raised almost a half inch and poo gets in and under the ring. Every change I have done in the past 10 has a swollen ring covered in poo and blood. Hopefully no ring will give me more than a day. Otherwise I will use my 90 day supply in weeks. Sure can't afford that.

[@C4mem]

I was discouraged with all the blow outs that I had and my skin got the brunt of it. I have an ileostomy. I changed the barrier because of the wrinkles that I had thought that would solve the problem, & that helped but needed to do more. Well I just kept going on line trying to get ideas from other people with this problem. In short I'll tell you how I actually resolved my problem from going 1or 2 days of changing my appliance to now up to 5 to 6 days of change just by reading some of the ostomates ideas. Now mind you this is the way I resolved it & hopefully you can get some ideas that I have received from others that paste it together. So here goes: I shower with appliance off and clean dry the stoma real good, I then cover the stoma with gauzed so to keep the skin as dry as possible, then I use stoma powder brush the excess off and over the powder I cover it with Cavilon no sting barrier wipes and let that dry. Following that I heat up my adapt cera ring with my hair dryer on low for a few seconds then I add it directly around my stoma pressing all around the edge to make a good seal (don't know if it makes a difference but its been working well so I do it) after that I remove the plastic of the back of my barrier and again I heat the barrier up as well and then apply it making sure it sits well in the wrinkle areas, I also press very lightly around the outside of the stoma area of the barrier to give an extra secured seal (again that's my choice to do that). I then put on my pouch and cover the center with both my hands for a minute for that extra bonding. And now I'm done. PS: Also as of lately for extra security because of my irregular skin I have also used 2 Adapt Barrier Extenders . I sure hope this has given you some ideas and please keep trying all you can...that's what I did and it finally worked. Best of luck I sure hope you can resolve your issue.

[@cookiesroblox6759]

My stoma is a strange shape so cutting my stoma hole to fit the shape is difficult & there's sometimes a gap in places that arebt covered.. question is.. can I use a little bit of the stoma paste to fill in the gap where the skin is exposed.. just to stop output from touching the skin..hope that makes sence x

[@donaldmendes184]

I have problems with adhiveness to my skin on the outer edge of my unit mostly on upper part , any suggestions

[@maryhyndman5098]

OMG I just had to get one cause I'm terminally ill and ehlers danlos I need support I hate the wax rings what is the brand you use

[@christine8262]

New to all of this...having issues with output getting in between UGH! Will call Hollister to get some paste. The ring does not work for uneven skin.

[@OstomyDiaries]

The ring was causing mine to leak as well. I hope changing some things up helps you! 🤗

[@carlshepherd6685]

Hey ma'am. First I want to thank you for what you do to help others. I have had my illeostomy for 39 years, so when I started out there was minimal options and help. Luckily, i have had no problems, until recently. I developed a sore and have had trouble getting it 100% healed. I thought I did for over two months and then it showed up again. Really small, but the material i used (stomahesve wafer) seems to cause it to reappear. I think a perfect environment. !st question, what do you use to treat the sore? 2nd question is there a product which sticks well, but doesn't leak. I have tired Hollister and cannot get them to last more than a day or two, before they start leaking. I have tried both rings and only the wafer itself. Again, thank you. Carl

[@Teddibere1]

Carl. Try the HOLLISTER CERARING under the Hollister CERA PLUS BAG WITH TAPE BORDER. I get NO LEAKS. This system is bombproof for me.....and I have a very "liquidy" output!! Teddy UK.

[@nickpappas8350]

Hey Carl I use Stomahesive brand protective powder and after I spray skin barrier spray on the skin around the stoma it seems to help.

[@michaelmcglynn5863]

I used that paste and it stung like fire. Paste was also very difficult to remove.

[@sungee3333]

I have a strange shaped stoma. I actually use both. I put half a ring underneath the put paste all around then put the flange. Another weird thing is if i put paste directly on the flange i have odor and/or leaks. I wish i knew why i have to put it directly around my stoma.

[@myheartbelongs2mills310]

My skin around my stoma is raw...the nurse said my skin will toughen up...but right now...ouches when I change my bag...thanks for your video

[@Teddibere1]

Use Stoma Powder and 3M Barrier Spray in thin layers. Apply spray, powder, spray, powder for about 3 "layers", finishing with spray. TRIO ELISSE Barrier Spray is also superb, more sticky, so it helps the appliance stick on better. I then use the HOLLISTER CERA RING and HOLLISTER CERAPLUS BAG, with tape border. Must be the CERA range, available in various options from HOLLISTER. Hope this helps. Teddy UK.

[@mamawlife7852]

New to this. Learning for a friend. What the steps? Do you put the 3m directly on skin or flange? Confused

[@Teddibere1]

You SPRAY the 3m onto skin around the stoma. TRIO ELISSE is another spray you can get. It is SUPERB....and it also helps the bag stick on much better!! There are reviews on here on TRIO ELISSE Barrier Spray.

[@jwwe1]

I get the filtered bags but on average it only works for 3 hours... Does anyone know of any filtered bags that last way longer? I'm using the Hollister bags..

[@jamierichard8631]

I have a huge problem with the granulomas around my ostomy. They can become so irritated and painful. What can I do to prevent this from happening?

[@juleskinkead4604]

the best kept secret now i am a year out with pee pouch, is to wear a Hollister belt attached to the flange. .. i have installed the appliance with no paste, no ring,, ... use a belt, it is adjustable and gives the pressure you need to stay dry

[@allancrane8475]

Hello Amber, I enjoy your tips for the newer users. Unfortunately I never had any of that when I had my Ostomy surgery 34 years ago. I had to learn everything on my own. Technology has improved the product's we use today versus what was available 60 years ago. Keep up the good work. I hope you'll cover everything that I had to learn on my own. If yo'vd missed something, then please get A hold of me. L. Crane

[@OstomyDiaries]

Thank you!

[@jeffreyspiewak8729]

Hi Allan, any insight on adhesive issues ? I find the skin irritations from the glue used in the ostomy products are hard to get away from without using silicone, which don't have the same quality adhesive properties as the elastic flanges and colostomy bags. Do you have any recommendations for the best Non Irritable adhesive colostomy products ? Thank you

[@allancrane8475]

@@jeffreyspiewak8729 Good evening Jeffrey, I'm sorry to be getting back to you so late. I generally don't have much time to look at Amber's videos, not to mention respond to questions. I use to apply past for years around the stoma. They only had one type three decades ago. I believe they have A substitute that doesn't irritate the skin. I stopped using past years ago & switched to A pre sized barrier ring from Coloplast . It's worked better then anything else I've tried over the years. Hope this helps. If not, make an appointment with an ostomy nurse. Take care, and good luck. Sincerely: A Crane

[@debkerr2393]

For me the stomaheisive paste works alot better than the adapt paste plus instead of putting the past directly on the appliance, I put the paste around the stomach before putting the pouch on. Sometimes my aim isn't real good so by putting the paste around the stoma, I can see that the paste is snug around the stoma.

[@OstomyDiaries]

Great tip!

[@Teddibere1]

I'f you've got any REALLY sore or raw skin around the stoma, be prepared to hit the roof with pain when you apply Stomahesive. It contains alcohol. I was actually in tears with the stinging and pain. Adapt and Coloplast Brava pastes do not contain alcohol.

[@vanilla-bean2349]

I think I’m gonna try that and see how it works for me, I have always just put paste on my wafer. Thanks for the tip, it makes sense.

[@emyemy931]

hi my stoma is superficial not like u and i suffered from abrasion irritation how can i deal please?

[@daviahumphrey3249]

Maybe it’s the brand of seals . I use Eakins seals . The paste is great but leaves too much residue for me .

[@OstomyDiaries]

I’ve tried a couple brands. I’m not sure. I think I just do better with the paste. They work great for some people though 😊👍🏼

[@Teddibere1]

With Eakin Seals I get leaks. Best two seals are......COLOPLAST Brava PROTECTIVE Seals, the deeper 4.2mm one......and HOLLISTER Adapt CERA RING. Hope this helps.

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Interesting. I changed my dad's (pray for his healing and food discipline) wafer and ostomy bag (used sealant paste). You didn't use the powder for the itching? God bless, Rev. 21:4

[@trishameloling2367]

I leak with just the paste so I relay on those seals/rings

[@taylormclaughlin7131]

Gosh my mom can get hers to stay on for more than 12 hours I was able to make hers stay for 3 days once. But her story is just like this her skin had and has been torn up its not a nice circle she has a place towards the bottom where it's more concave right now they have us using the rings and the paste?

[@feliciaperez2948]

Doesn’t the paste sting and burn since it’s alcohol based? I’ve tried from 2 different brands and they both stung.

[@mariankelly8224]

It has caused me to feel severe pain around the stoma.

[@gardening911]

My barrier ring keeps coming through the flange and my stoma has barrier ring around it.

[@carrollchambers928]

Have you tried the hollister adapt slim rings. They are amazing especially for me cause I’m really skinny and small. And it doesn’t leave any residue either. Maybe try that for some people who don’t want to use paste and still use rings

[@haajarsaid4229]

I tried it today and it wasn’t a good experience! There was licking and I had to take it off right away.

[@lupitapulido9980]

I had a question what shampoo and body wash you used and cream

[@OstomyDiaries]

I use unscented everything. As long as unscented should be okay!

[@chuckmartin34]

I to use Adapt paste. But since my stoma opening is oblong and the length is 2 and 3/4 inches I have to use very large barriers. I cut the hole for my stoma and like you I put the paste on the barrier. When I attached the barrier one of the things I do is a press inside of the attachment ring to make sure that the barrier is sealed to my skin. Then I press the tape outside of the attachment ring. Then I snap the bag on. It's just very important to me that since I use the paste I want to make sure that the barrier seals to the skin.

[@OstomyDiaries]

Some people use both! Thanks for sharing 😊

[@jataim4197]

I love your advice and watch this channel all the time for my "Monster's" needs but I totally luv the barrier rings,(at least the brand I've tried Hollister/Adapt). I have found that those with "innies" ,(like my stoma is), seem to use the rings more than those with level or 'outie' stomas? Interesting??? :) keep up the great info. :)

[@OstomyDiaries]

My stoma is an outtie maybe that’s why I can get by without one. Thank you so much for watching! 😊💜💚

[@Teddibere1]

The Hollister Adapt CERA RING is even better! It contains Ceramides....Good for the skin.

[@DeniseBGt]

You guys that use this paste... question: do you have colstomy or ileostomy? I have ileostomy and I've had a really hard time looking for a product that lasts more than 12 hours without starting to leak because the output is so abrasive 😪 In my case the rings last longer than the pastes I've tried (karaya and Adapt paste).

[@lindachaplin2282]

I have an ileostomy. About 1year now. Mine is very inverted though. Ive been using Hollister 2piece system. Was having lots of leakage just using paste (Stomahesive) so i decided to use an Eakin seal (cohesive slims 839005) and then a little paste over that and now only tend to get a small leak about once per month. 🤞🤞 Get into the group "Inspire". The ostomates in that group are amazing and sooo helpful. All the best.

[@alejandrobrunis2218]

Tienen traducción en español?

[@user-if6er5mi4q]

Where i buy pase i order now

[@stargazingelf4572]

Would love to last 4 to 5 day! Been every 2 days for over 10 years for me

[@mariankelly8224]

Same for me. I've had an fair 15 years, my skin continuously breaks down and I have tried most everything I know. If the bag lasted 5 days it would give my skin a real chance to heal. However I to would be worried about odours.

[@mariankelly8224]

Fair? Ileostomy

[@nielsonnc]

how do you keep it cooled down so the wafer doesn't melt?

[@OstomyDiaries]

If you are referring to when I use a hair dryer I only do it for 5-10 seconds! 😊😊

[@tadealessa3392]

👍👏🙏😘

[@vanilla-bean2349]

Yeah I like paste better than rings. I’m so sorry you had all those leaks at first, I know that’s a horrible feeling. One thing I noticed though is that you are using Hollister products. I used Convayfor 20 plus years until my insurance changed and for some reason would only authorize Hollister products for me. I gotta say that was the absolute worst eight months of my life, because those wafers leaked on me every single time, they were HORRIBLE. I never got more than two days without a leak and usually only got one day out of those wafers. The wax would constantly break apart and separate and start leaking, and this would start happening usually within a few hours of changing it, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I can’t believe they make such an inferior product, especially for ostomates. Luckily I was allowed to switch back to ConvaTec and everything was fine once again and no leaks.

[@bluemoon2934]

You can find paste like this from Coloplast or other outlets that are alcohol free….But she’s rite…The paste is farrrrr better than the barrier ring ….Cuz a similar thing happened to me

[@kararepola5167]

Is flange the same as a wafer?

[@miriambarnett2782]

Yes

[@oldguard60]

What is the product number for the reusable illeostomy bag that you use?

[@OstomyDiaries]

Hollister 18182 😊

[@b54b32]

I have had multiple ostomy surgeries myself over a 20+ years long time span, and for similar reasons I also don't use the rings. I have much better luck with the paste. There are several different brands of paste on the market, and my favorite is the Stomahesive brand of paste. For me personally I like that particular brand better because it is slightly thicker than Adapt, so for me it forms a better barrier against leakage, and if you let it "tack up" a bit, it can be pushed around easier as a "bead" to conform more closely to the edge of the stoma. There are more paste brands on the market than just the two best known ones that I mentioned, and they all have their pros and cons, newbies shouldn't get disheartened if the first or second paste brand doesn't work as well for they as they hoped it would.

[@michaelsix9684]

it gets worse as you get older, you gain wgt. and get more abdominal dips and curves

[@papiicarlos6641]

Who xan donate opstomy bags?hacing $ problems😔

[@babyhithakar6132]

I tried the barrier rings and they melted

[@sambarclay2593]

Wow....I wish I could marry you and we could take care of our stomas together. It would be great to have someone who understood the challenges and mental aspects of having an ostomy bag. It really makes me feel unattractive and undesirable.

[@sambarclay2593]

@David M Yessir!!! I've got a sugar momma (my wife) who makes good money so I've been able to concentrate on recovery but man I'm getting bored and feeling worthless. My reversal is in about 2 months!! Good luck and keep in touch if you want....seems like we are in the same boat!

[@BorisM2001]

Useless.

[@GamerGrl90]

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