Why Mace Windu BLAMED Himself for The Clone Wars - Star Wars Explained

In Shatterpoint, Mace Windu blames himself for not finishing The Clone Wars before it began. What do you think about how he blames himself?
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[@rsxmaster]

I'm pretty sure if Anakin didn't interfere, Mace would've returned and granted him the rank of master right away for exposing Sidious and killing Dooku.

[@imbattle796]

Geroge Lucas i thought Confirmed that mace would keep his word and would have granted Anakin the rank master if stayed

[@daymenpollet4202]

I believe the same!

[@leerogish7223]

Agreed even Anakins harshest critics never doubted his powers and skills. Mace was already clearly impressed Anakin told him about palpatine and chose the Jedi way over palpatine so I have no doubt he would have been made a master at the next council meeting

[@TnD12754]

Definitely

[@MrFuller876]

I agree

[@whatdidyoudotomydrink3968]

Ah yes, my favorite Mace Windu quote: “Clone Wars..”

[@bitasaur]

lol

[@coachgoltzbizpro23]

A Sith Lord?

[@TetsuShima]

Windu after being defeated by Palpatine: "Ugh. I have lost my hand and received a critical hit. But the force is with me and I survived. I must go to exile and train myself until..." *Gets shot and dies* Boba Fett: "I forgive you"

[@sebas.4697]

Haha your a book

[@TheSunStudio1]

A good death indeed.

[@digitalisman3267]

My saber is red, Yellow are my eyes, Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagues the wise? - Sheev Palpatine

[@Fit_soldier]

😍😍😍

[@Fit_soldier]

I love that story

[@westwardstar1686]

I wonder why... Mace, and the council in general, disregarded that Dooku and Tyranus are the same... and they do nothing. Jango said he was hired by Tyranus, Dooku spilled everything in AOTC, Maul spilled info to Ahsoka. Shaak Ti and inhibitor chips.

[@protalghulnist4126]

Ashoka never told them about mauls info

[@sword4005]

jedi had become arrogant and complacent and that blinded them just as the sith had planned

[@csc4781]

Star Threat and could have possibly saved everyone, guess we’ll never know

[@jagnestormskull3178]

@@protalghulnist4126 Which info? Season seven info? Because that happen's coterminous with RotS.

[@Max-fu3hp]

@@sword4005 im sorry citizen, these matters are for the council to discuss

[@fightingfalcon777]

I always took Dooku’s revelation of Sidious as him trying to begin sowing mistrust between the Jedi and the Republic, that if they believed the Sith controlled the Senate, then they would be more likely to move against them, which would serve Sidious’s plan to eventually turn the Jedi into the villains

[@coachgoltzbizpro23]

Mace in the Prequels: Kind of a jerk Mace in Legends: Conflicted and interesting

[@ggt47]

Yes!

[@swiftstreak98]

Still kind of a jerk to me

[@uscman]

I fucking despise Mace now after seeing how much of a dick he was in Clone Wars.

[@zes3813]

wrgg

[@macewindu5837]

Hey!!!

[@DarrelsWonderland]

“I’m sorry, Citizen! These matters are for the council to discuss!”

[@kyleanderson6790]

Shatter point also worked in conversation. He murdered Ahsoka in that scene.

[@HolyShitNew]

ishaan ananth amazing every word of what you just said was right

[@Raining_Heavily]

Windu got thrown outta the window 😂

[@ChronicEye]

dude got what deserved

[@cooljo5881]

@ishaan ananth Anakin got more mediclorians than Yoda, but what's your point? That this makes him automacilly the strongest? Sooo... by your logic is child Anakin stronger than Yoda. And we know that this is bullshit. Either way, I'd say that Windu is definetely stronger than Anakin

[@ral_ordo5157]

Dooku revealing the truth to Obi-wan was because of his feelings for Qui-gon. It was the last twinkle of light or a hope that Obi-wan would become his apprentice.

[@The_Admiral5]

Dooku's death in Episode III signified the decline of the CIS. Grievous went into hiding on Utapau with the rest of the CIS leadership afterwards! So yes if Mace killed Dooku then the Clone Wars would have ended before they truly began. Sidious would need to devise a new plan to eliminate the Jedi and execute Order 66.

[@brandontrammel4581]

Facts

[@Max-fu3hp]

Yea and obi wan was there when grievous told the rest of seperatist leaders to move to mustafar, they had that info. If palp was killed by mace there wouldnt have been an order 66. Their next move after obi wans return to the council would have been a raid on mustafar.

[@leerogish7223]

No it would have just been a temporary setback. Palpatine would have simply tracked down maul and made him the new leader of the separatists.

[@westleystone6577]

I hate how brilliant Mace Windu is as a character and how underutilized he has been in the canon of Star Wars. He is easily the most interesting Jedi from the prequel trilogy.

[@ionicreviews]

I agree 💯. He should have been the a major character in the prequel. I feel so much story was missed by focusing on anakin and obi wan. Hopefully he gets his own show or at least shows up in Mandalorain and the obi wan show.

[@Flazius]

I believe Qui-Gon Jinn is the most underutilized character in the prequels. His transition towards a Grey jedi area is super interesting. Instead of taking sides, he does what he believe the force wants him to do, except for one massive mistake. He is a true servant of the force, unlike both jedi and sith.

[@westleystone6577]

Mark Thomsen Qui-Gonn is the Lead of a full episode. He has the most screen time in episode one.

[@Farmdafish]

Mace and Qui Gon are easily the most interesting prequel era characters

[@Max-fu3hp]

I agree, hes super interesting even tho he doesn not have any special visual features like say quinlan vos or yoda, ki adi mundi nor any other alien jedi. Hes just some bald dude thats kinda mean towards the main character.

[@seththeace6217]

Ever since the rule of 2 was implemented, there are only 2 true sith, however, the sith often teach others in preparation for the possibility of them rising to become the sith apprentice.

[@Smansi_da_randumb]

Yeah, as Sith assassins, acolytes and dark jedi. As backup apprentices however they weren't considered dark lords of the sith. Eg. Assaj ventress and starkiller were both not given the title "Darth"

[@miserquemiguel2144]

@@Smansi_da_randumb or savage opress

[@bloodydove5718]

@@Smansi_da_randumb theres only ever One dark lord of the sith at a time, even before the rule of two. The other just achieves the title of Darth, until the mantle is passed down

[@Gregoreo1127]

Maybe he was seeing his own death as the shatter point. Because whom would have confronted sidous?

[@bigdaddytrips6197]

Your mom

[@SergioR00]

@@bigdaddytrips6197 You're so funny bro awesome job 👏

[@Gregoreo1127]

Big Trips Keepin it real thanks for the time travel backwards to my middle school years of mama jokes 😂😂

[@ace360]

Thanks for covering more on Shatterpoint book brother⚡👊👍

[@JD-qq8fz]

Thumbnail: First, Mace Windu said to himself, "Clone Wars..." then furrowed his brow, igniting his lightsaber.

[@DingleDangle66]

He should of granted me the rank of Master.

[@thiccobiwan1872]

Hello there

[@thiccobiwan1872]

@Qui Gon Jin Master, how are you still alive?

[@Superdog-kh3ee]

Hello there

[@fraydizs7302]

*should have*

[@noobart443]

Take a seat, Skywalker

[@seththeace6217]

I did read this book. It really hits hard.

[@hyruleponcho3885]

name?

[@jerichamesclammay3107]

nothing was Windu's fault. He acted merely out of instinct at that moment on the balcony. It's a natural response to do what you can to survive. Besides; The Clone Wars was the pinnacle of Anakin's prophecy.

[@jerichamesclammay3107]

@Shayan calm down. Of course he's flawed. He wouldn't be a human being if he wasn't. And he was indeed short-sighted. He was no more different than the rest of The Jedi Order. They were all temple monks with a narrow-minded view of control and order. And he wasn't going around making decisions for everybody, the council made the decisions. Himself included. And he couldn't see ahead. If he could, he'd have known that not making Anakin a jedi master would eventually come back to bite him in the ass then destroy The Order.

[@jerichamesclammay3107]

@Shayan ok, I was probably going too far with that "calm down" there. Sorry. Just when you put the "maybe" lable there, I thought you were denying it. Thought you were a blm supporter. My bad. Once again; my bad. You're absolutely right that the jedi make their decisions from all aspects. However I'll have to disagree with you on Windu making the big decisions. The way I see it; the council make the decisions, that's why it's called a council. And yes, once again, you're right. Sidious was indeed the devil. And Anakin sold his soul to him out of pure selfishness. Failing to earn Windu's trust. And Luke was correct when he said Windu was going to save The Galaxy all those years ago. His father would have made the right choice letting Windu kill Sidious. and I 100% agree with that fact. Windu was indeed everything you described him as. All I'm saying is the jedi back in those times were a dogmatic organisation under The Republic's wing.

[@jerichamesclammay3107]

@Shayan I've been through enough fucking Star Wars arguments. Believe me. ? I don't remember mentioning enforcing teaching the ways of The Dark Side, but ok. And actually, love was strictly forbidden in The Jedi Order until Luke reformed it. as for Ahsoka, I'm not a fan of Filoni's clone wars, so, no. I don't accept that as canon. no need to apologise. That was on me. Foolish assumption

[@jerichamesclammay3107]

@Shayan ah, I see And yes, that is a good point. How you say the jedi should be trained in the dark side while not being having a good understanding of it. Always figured that's how Legends Luke(who is canon)trained The New Jedi Order to understand. no, no, no, I never said you were against it. Nothing to apologise for, my man.

[@Sklabah]

Yes - Dooku is way underrated. People saw "old man", but I saw a master. i feel like Clone Wars really showcased his power in the right ways.

[@girlpuppyandboypuppysmixed2683]

It wasn't Windu's fault it was obviously Watto's fault because he couldn't accept Republic credits

[@leerogish7223]

Trying to pay with republic credits on tattooine is like trying to buy something in a village in the Afghan mountains with a Visa card

[@macewindu5837]

@@leerogish7223 that actually works

[@leerogish7223]

@@macewindu5837 you also thought it was a good idea to tell anakin you don’t trust him yet at the height of his emotional turmoil and confusion

[@stephencrook6007]

One of the things I believe you are overlooking is the line where mace explains that situations shartterpoits are fluid. It’s very likely that palpating had absolutely no idea that his entire plans success hinges on dookus survival at that precise moment. It’s more than likely that maces killing of Doolittle would have unraveled the entire 1000 year plan, regardless of palpatines careful planning and redundancies

[@tmclaug90]

Killing Dooku probably would have just kicked the can on down the road. Anything short of discovering Sidious's true identity wouldn't have stopped it.

[@thirdplanet4471]

Shatter point sounds like Shiki Ryougi/Tohno's mystic eyes of death perception

[@j.michaelmiller4689]

I loved this book. I read Medstar 1 with Barriss right after too

[@thatguy8514]

Second video: 1) Jedi don’t allow multiple padawans, like the rule of two. 2) Dooku was emotional about QGJ and Kenobi was the only link. I think Sidious would not have been pleased with turning Kenobi. He would have enjoyed watching the two former Jedi battle to be his apprentice. Sidious would either get a more powerful student or a younger student, either of which could pull Anakin over which was the real desire.

[@mandalore0436]

Technically, the rule of 2 did, and did not exist. During the Clone War, Sidious had Dooku as an apprentice. However, when he found that Maul was alive and training Savage, he dueled them both and killed Savage, as we know. However, if Sidious wanted to completely obey said rule, he would have also killed Maul. By not killing Maul, 3 Sith existed, Sidious, Dooku, and Maul. Fast forward to Revenge of the Sith, Sidious, in a way, had Dooku killed so that he (Sidious) could later take Anakin as his apprentice, Darth Vader. With this in mind, the rule does exist, however Sidious bent the rule/doctrine to his will, therefor leaving the rule of 2 with no value.

[@JoniukasVader]

This is Outrageous!

[@macewindu6742]

Take a seat

[@benjaminrandall4827]

Young skywalker

[@MrFuller876]

Yes master

[@veronicasawyer8776]

Love it May the force be with you Love Mace Windu Though he was mean he was a Hard person to Kill

[@da_chosen_one9922]

Theory just got the member ship it's amazing great video to

[@aguy3728]

Maul was neither the master or apprentice. Plageius was still alive during TPM and died around the same time Maul’s defeat. Palpatine was the apprentice and Plageius was the master. Maul was just a Sith Assassin like Ventress and Savage.

[@elticc]

He should be blamed for the rise of the empire because he didn’t give Anakin the rank of master

[@noakhstrelec8478]

No, he should never have been master in the first place

[@Max-fu3hp]

@@noakhstrelec8478 yea he was too young actually. Rank of master comes with wiseness, Anakin was strong, but not very wise

[@leerogish7223]

Anakin wasn’t mature enough. To be a master maturity is more important than power.

[@macewindu5837]

Nooooooooooooo

[@miketheskepticalone6285]

Neither accident, nor pride, nor the plans of others. The question is, why would Dooku, older and wiser than Palpatine, submit to him. He could see the Jedi Order had for all intents and purposes fallen upon its own sword. His ultimate aim was, at least originally, to destroy the Jedi Order that it could be reforged from its shards into what the Order had been intended from the start.

[@macewindu6742]

This party is over.

[@anakinchillwalker9447]

Mace Windu hello there

[@macewindu6742]

Take a seat young Skywalker

[@anakinchillwalker9447]

@@macewindu6742 make me mace window

[@TheAravar]

My Feelings... Palpatine was so hidden within the Darkside that he instructed Dooku to tell the Jedi about him, as to sew discord both between the Jedi and the Senate and with the Jedi Order itself. But it's just my perspective.

[@krazyvidzkrazy3208]

Master Windu would have only delayed Production of Death Star .the shatter point Mace saw was the breaking point of the development of Death Star not the end of the war .

[@gershomtan5879]

Your voice acting is solid my friend.

[@MrFuller876]

Especially for Yoda.

[@DL6778]

The rule of two for the Sith was meant to be a law but it became a guideline not an actual law they/we actually use.

[@justinschultheisz4673]

I don’t know if this has already been said, but in current canon, if Mace killed Jango, Dooku and Gunray, I believe Sideous would’ve sought out Maul to lead the separatist alliance. Given that Maul wouldn’t have the charisma and eloquence of Dooku, I’m sure Maul wouldn’t have a problem with it, seeing as how he led crime syndicates with such ease.

[@lewisholmes9248]

All of this additional information just makes the movies so much more richer for me. Always wondered why Mace pointed his blade at Fett and not Dooku

[@ohkmilk7557]

can we please take a moment to appreciate all of his impressions!! The Yoda one is soooo goood!!

[@julienprevost5409]

A nice leap, he plundged his saber in Dooku's back, then used Dooku's body against Jango's shots.

[@ItsMeMattCarter]

*sees Theory upload a new video" *Theory saying we get two videos for the price of one* Me: this is getting out of hand now there are two of them!!!

[@kingleoxvii2463]

I thinkj the Rule of Two was followed. You always want to make sure you have someone to take your spot, when you become the person who is in charge. Say your Manager is leaving the company and the higher ups want you to take his/her spot. Who will do the work that you did in your previous position? So it makes since, you would hire and train that individual to do your work, so you won't have to do two jobs at the same time . Plus it saves you the hassle/time of looking for someone later on down the road.

[@EVILKINGGANONDORF1]

I personally think dooku would have destroyed sidious and the sith given the chance. The council could not do what was necessary. so dooku did join the dark side but dooku always seemed to be a calm sith. Not really a power crazy yellow eyed corrupted sith. I do think he did partially create the separatist because the republic was corrupt and it needed order. I personally think dooku had more reasons and in Cannon and Legends he shows similar signs that he like his apprentic quigon did question the council and did what needed to be done. I think he revealed himself to obi wan to destroy sidious and rebuild the republic and he would betray and go rogue from sidious. Dooku never seemed full on Evil Sith Lord and if he couldn't persuade people like obi wan his apprentices apprentice to join him that road was a dead end and he had to go the way he did. I also recon yes gunray could a escape Canon or Legends grievous also helped and killed jedi to stay undetected that's an interesting story...but also Dooku to show off his power as an insult to the council and his former master Yoda.

[@obi--wan7181]

Sidious would of clapped Dooku ass

[@michaelevans7464]

As to your rule of two question. In the Bane novels the rule of two allowed acolytes to be trained as tools, assassins and such but not to be tought the true nature of the dark side. Always trained to be useful but never enough to become a threat. Only the true apprentice was to be taught the secrets.

[@redpenguin5602]

The should have tested the whole senate for being force sensitive after Dooku told them the senate was under control by a sith lord

[@joshuapaulson9116]

In regards to Dooku, Dooku revealed his alliance with Sidious to Obi-Wan because he could sense treachery in his Master. By converting Obi-Wan, or at the very least revealing the secret plans to him. Should Sidious betray Dooku, then maybe he could be stopped by the Jedi or the combined effort of him and Obi-Wan. I think Sidious would still be able to defeat a combined attack from Dooku and Obi-Wan. The face of betrayal on Dooku in Revenge of the Sith is a proof of Dooku's worry of being betrayed by Sidious. I think Dooku would have never left the Jedi Ordwr, if they had decided to remove themselves from the republic and no longer be under the republics jurisdiction.

[@colonicus]

I always thought of the rule of two as limiting a master from training multiple apprentices. You always have the secondary or additional sith being trained by the apprentice rather than the master. The master has an apprentice to prevent them from being complacent and to keep gaining power to avoid being killed by their apprentice. The apprentice is always looking for an apprentice of their own to help them overthrow the master. Hence Sidious trains Maul, Dooku trains Ventress, Maul trains Savage, Vader trains the inquisitors and starkiller; with the intent of overthrowing the master. The master never trains another apprentice unless they are going to cast their former apprentice aside as Sidious was going to do with Vader if Luke turned to the dark side.

[@charelzJ]

Concerning the rule of 2, Acolytes, and the inquisitors... After Palps became emperor he discarded the rule of 2 and went with the 1 Sith philosophy. Where he wouldn't follow Darth Banes teachings. That he would train up force sensitives to a point of competence in the use of the force but he wouldn't train them to a point that they would be able to defeat him. That coupled with his essence transfer ability he never imagined he'd have to give up control. Furthermore I believe that the rule of 2 was followed up until the death of Plagueis...

[@kahele1000]

that intro though, most pleasing.

[@patmiller6231]

Count Dooku was very underrated and a much more better duelist than Mace

[@bevindennett]

Mace would not have stopped the Clone Wars, he would have just delayed it

[@Max-fu3hp]

Yea, bc Sidious was pulling the strings, Dooku was only his helper

[@leerogish7223]

Exactly palpatine would have just tracked down maul and have him take dookus place

[@TheSunStudio1]

Well, Dooku's death in Episode III did signified the decline of the CIS.

[@leerogish7223]

@@TheSunStudio1 that is because palpatine was playing both sides and he already had absolute power and after dookus death he knew anakin could be turned to the dark side. The separatists had almost outlived their usefulness

[@asiblingproduction]

I love it when force powers are explained in detail like shatterpoint, makes it feel like a tangible thing, something special that needs to be trained for.

[@wolf-childytbr115]

Finally got to your video early enough to put a comment. I love your work man. Keep it up, honestly I high point in my life watching you content. May the force be with you

[@cherrypoptart2001]

Windu vs Dooku was the fight we needed.

[@f.prince6642]

Your yoda voice is top tier

[@pandaraver9]

the "legends" animation is really cool. big fan. 10/10

[@snakestaffmagic4499]

Whoa the way he describes that second with jango, makes me want to read the book that was awesome!

[@blackbookt.vchannel7616]

before telling obi won about sideous he talked about qui-gon and had a very sad expression on his face, he probably told due to the fact he was the apprentice of his favorite one, gave him some Easter eggs and kept him alive to let the jedi order know BUT that didnt happen

[@dendlefiends]

I think the rule of two was really a way to consolidate power among the Sith. By limiting the number of "true" Sith, they limit the mindset of their assasins and acolytes, trapping them into servitude and negating in fighting at the leadership levels. I have a theory that if Count Dooku wasn't a political figurehead for the CIS, then Asaaj would have been allowed to take his place if she grew powerful enough, thus becoming Palpatine's apprentice. At least until Anakin would arrive.

[@unLUCKY95]

I think with regards to the point about characters like Ventress and the Inquisitors being trained by Sith, we have to take into account that they were merely trained as weapons to do tasks that the Sith found to be beneath them. Their training seemed deliberately limited. Dooku clearly didn't teach Ventress like Palpatine taught him, and they always seem to ensure that they don't become powerful enough to surpass them. I think Ventress was far more powerful and better trained than any of the Inquisitors, and that was deliberate, as she was a lone dark side warrior up against an entire order of powerful Jedi, while the Inquisitor's were numerous and only existed to hunt down the weaker, scattered Jedi that had survived order 66. If the Grand Inquisitor had been as well trained as Ventress, who frequently held her own against the likes of Anakin and Obi-Wan, there's no way he would have lost to Kanan in Rebels. Also, if these dark acolytes show any sign of weakness, they are instantly executed by one of the two Sith Lords. The Sith also tend to quickly decide to make an attempt at killing them whenever they show that they're starting to grow to a point where they could rival the current Sith Lord's, which we see happen with Ventress and, even though he's not canon, Starkiller, and Maul, who Palpatine kept a close eye on but largely ignored until he began to grow in power. I think Vader also did a much better job of keeping the Inquisitor's in line through fear than Dooku did with Ventress and Savage - he made sure they knew that he was far more powerful than them, so they were beyond terrified of him and wouldn't dare step out of line. If they did step out of line or show any sign of weakness, Vader would effortlessly execute them as an example, as we see in Fallen Order.

[@bigafroman4277]

I like that new Legend intro! 🤗

[@ElectricProductions12]

I finally got this book, it came yesterday. Awesome video theory :)

[@starwarsknight9312]

This made me have a 20 minute brainstorm on different theories!

[@blueeyedrobotfortnitefnafa6613]

Starwars theory: welcome back to another episode Me:of not starwars theory

[@Y0h_Mu]

It was mentioned in the video that video creator considers Count Dooku a best duelist/swordsman the Mace Windu. I would honestly really want to see a video explaining this position.

[@bigkitten4586]

Great job Theory! This video gives great insight on Mace.

[@michaelbraun74]

With the role of two I think the way the Sith would actually do it. Is the reason why they have so many acolytes is that so when the master loses his apprentice the act acolyte would take their place or if it’s an acolyte manage to defeat the apprentice that acolyte will become the new apprentice to the master and So the apprentice will have his trainee when he defeats the master.

[@piercinglikelightproductio9382]

It seems to make sense that Count Dooku really did accidently let out some of the Light Side left in him talking to Obi-wan, so I'd say both Yoda and this guy are correct.

[@Livelongwforce]

The stories of the Jedi that witness the fall of the Order never ceases to break my heart.

[@jonathanhawkins4544]

Good work man, that is some good ole fashion star wars theory! Keep it coming and many thanks.

[@sullen3584]

Hi theory I usually watch your vids signed out because I couldn’t make an account but now I can and I subscribed. Keep up the great work!!

[@DeathScepter]

Proper Sith Apprentrice like Maul, Dooku and Vader are par with Top Tiered Jedi Masters. Their dark side servants are at best a tier below them.

[@dukecarraway1762]

He should have blamed himself for the rise of the empire

[@padgetts.4107]

Maybe at the heart, Dooku didn’t possess full conviction to Sidious’ plan but due to his atrocities during the war, this doubt was easily masked from the Jedi

[@Chaz-Support]

I think dooku revealed himself to obi wan to test how blinded the Jedi were and to then report to sideous what obi wans response was. By obi wan rejecting it sideous would be in full confidence that the Jedi suspect nothing of him at that moment.

[@leon3ll713]

Imagine if they captured Jango Fett, the Order 66 could have been stopped

[@legendaryc4]

What I want to know is how Yoda knew about the rule of 2? Bane enforced the rule and he was the start of the 1000 year Sith hiding. So did the Jedi Council find one of his or Revan's holocrons or something?

[@adammcgarrity28]

I didn't think I'd like the extra video at the end (mainly because I've seen a lot of your videos before) but I did like it. I think you should continue to dew it, but maybe not on every video.

[@SHARKVADERS]

NNNNNNOOOOOOO

[@Sly88Frye]

Maybe count dooku was just weighing his options. Like just in case he ended up surviving the clone wars and sidious was defeated maybe he could join the Jedi and claim that he is the one who revealed everything they needed to know, but if the Jedi were to falter he would just continue being The apprentice of Darth sidious.

[@adambrown3918]

Should/woulda/coulda. We all suffer from this. Palpatine was playing the long game though. Deeply. The Count would have been replaced but timing was everything. I think Dooku's death would have given The Jedi time enough to figure things out in regards the undercover Sith Lord.

[@richarddizaji7848]

Holy crap that intro card tho!

[@abbiem3928]

I think dooku told obi wan about the sith controlling the senate because palpatine wanted him to. He needed the Jedi to be cautious about the senate so that the sense of distrust can be used in ROTS when he executes order 66. He couldn’t have the Jedi loving him and trusting the senate and everything being okay because he wouldn’t be able to accuse them of treason as no one would believe it.

[@allanshires]

If very well could have set back Sideous. He was chancellor and had alot less time for him to manage both sides of the war. But loosing Mace so early in the war would have hurt the Jedi too.

[@bomblast2000]

I always thought it was Dooku trying to recruit Obi-Wan to overthrow Sidious and take his place. The relationship between Sith master and student has always been weird to me. Working with each other and against each other at the same time. It's a wonder the Sith lasted as long as they did, even with the rule of 2.

[@snakeeyes3883]

The rule of two was followed authentically IMO, at least canon'ly speaking. the Inquisitors were trained in the force but not as a sith. they also werent allowed to be as powerful as a sith, so they were trained accordingly. this in effect, renders the rule of two to be followed without breaking any rules persay.

[@mrishtvshow]

Love your mace windu videos, KEEP EM COMING😁

[@uwaizbahadur]

That new intro 🔥

[@benweiss4956]

Game of Thrones style tv show with a power struggle between Revan, the Republic, Mandalore, the Hutts, and the Empire are the white walkers. Rated R.

[@darkseason96]

you're really good at voice impressions lol

[@patrioticjustice9040]

Maybe that's why Mace was so determined to kill Palpatine, rather than letting the Chosen One fulfill the prophecy.

[@6dayzofchaos584]

Mace has PTSD. WOW. Just started Shatterpoint and had to rewatch this. There was no one else like Dooku. Sidious was able to get to Anakin easier bc of how Mace treated Anakin. Imagine if mace and anakin got alone like BROs? Be a very deadly duo.

[@NobleHunter]

He should also blame himself for accusing Ahsoka instead of blaming the force.

[@violet-kittychick]

Dooku knew he could not defeat Darth Sidious on his own and he wanted Obi-Wan to join him and help him do it because he knew dark times were ahead, including the inevitable end of the Jedi. I think there was still some good in Dooku and he wanted it to end well before it got to a certain point but he had to remain faithful to his new sith master should he not be able to kill him.

[@leerogish7223]

Dooku and obi wan would have been slaughtered in minutes if they tried to go up against palpatine

[@violet-kittychick]

@@leerogish7223 Hahaha.. never underestimate the power of the dark side!! Maybe they would have been or maybe together they would have destroyed the sith to become the very thing they sought to destroy. Remember what Obi Wan did to Darth Mail with a little bit of rage and anger in him too!!

[@leerogish7223]

@@violet-kittychick There is no comparison between maul and sideous! Even if obi wan was using the dark side palpatine could end him as easily as he ended kit fisto

[@anbureracorporation]

I just love the intro

[@phatmeow7764]

he ate one too many Royales with Cheese which is what they call a Quarter Pounder in Naboo!

[@gavomorg762]

"Lies ,deceit mistrust are his way now"

[@kendannon4435]

Playing along with this, Yoda was senile and complacent. Mace was too afraid of is own self, and ki adi mundi lacked the courage to voice his opinion. The jedi had incredible strength and all kinds of resourdes, but they blew it because waiting is not always the right choice. really living is probably in the moment. "I KnOw! Let's jsut chillout and think ..." -but the galaxy is getting bbq'd and they hate bbq.-

[@thomasrobson6370]

There were several sith lords that broke the rules. In the saga RPG there was a "power level" difference/class an apprentice class and lord class. I thought that the rule of two was stupid one could learn to be a sith from a holocron, texts, or a "guardian spirit" training him or her