Why Olympic Lifters Have HUGE Vertical Jumps (AND YOU CAN TOO!)

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[@TheLockon00]

Virtually every program I've seen for sprinters, throwers, and jumpers has included Olympic lifts or their variations. Conversely, Olympic lifters do not do sprinting, plyometrics, medball throws, etc. to help with their sport. Yet every time you see an Olympic lifter jump, either for fun or to test their power, they always jump really high. I think this all speaks pretty strongly to the benefits of Olympic lifts.

[@eimakaiomanguy5532]

Pretty difficult to deny correlation of the two if you couple what you just said with all the mechanistic facts tying Oly lifting with impulse expression.

[@hansmemling2311]

afik Olympic lifters do polymetric exercises amongst a variety of exercises. Perhaps it varies per lifter.

[@TheLockon00]

@@hansmemling2311 I can't say it never happens, but whenever I review their programs, that kind of training is absent.

[@rowlinzonvaldeavilla3964]

Olympic lifters are also naturally explosive. If you get to the world class level, all of them are gifted with fast twitch explosiveness

[@jamescomer8722]

​@@rowlinzonvaldeavilla3964 this is also true

[@bigk2080]

This is why Mark Henry could slam dunk at almost 400lbs of body weight.

[@hilbertp]

I f**king LOVE your content!

[@martmuru]

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[@Steve-sp4rx]

I like the way you science.

[@Boss3Nate]

You can without a doubt improve your vertical jump and even your speed.... but at the end of the day God blessed guys like Vince Carter and Usain Bolt with a little something extra.... hahaha

[@Leonidas-eu9bb]

Flywheeltraining is even better. With flywheel training the resistance is solely dependend on acceleration not gravity! This probably make it the best strength/power training method. We had poor results with classic weight lifting. We had good results with power training (weighted jumps, olympic lifts), we had the best results with flywheel training in combination with unloaded jumps! Flywheel training produce the greatest neural drive in concentric muscle action and also improves the eccentric/decceleration part a lot!

[@jamescomer8722]

What kind of flywheel system you using?

[@santipriya9639]

You are giving wrong data about vertical jumps

[@comikz6047]

I’m so frustrated for u, u have that underboth it’s just a matter of hitting it in the right spot

[@dbbdbdbdbd599]

Cause you literally jump with weight when you do oly lifts. It's not that deep

[@rasselbidou]

not really, lifters who "jump with weight" end up doing that heel slap on the platform, which isn't ideal, as it means not enough traps engagement on the final moments of the triple extension oly lifting is more about movements where we throw our wrist upwards. If wrists weren't attached to the body, oly lifters would be the best at throwing their wrists very high in the air

[@JMP-kw3wy]

@PeakStrengthApp you're making the assumption that its CAUSATION and not correlation with olympic weightlifters. Great olympic weightlifters are great at it because they are inclined in the direction of explosive strength ANYHOW. I guaruntee even if they didnt practice their olympic lifts they still had the potential to be strong and explosive and would have been explosive jumpers even with just normal weightlifting or just playing a sport.The point is: the olympic lifts didn't CAUSE them to be the explosive freaks they are. The only thing it no doubt did is improve their strength which gives them more potential power to tap into with any movement including jumping. But all the coordination for being good at olympic lifting is very specific to olympic weightlifting and will NOT equal a change in vertical for most people other than the change created by increasing their strength. Its called The Law of Specificity. I cannot believe as a professional trainer you are not aware of this reality. In reality a person could simply DIRECTLY practice coordinating power quickly within a jump - not an olympic lift - to improve their jumping power. Just lift weights for strength and then work at improving your speed of force production directly within jumping exercises, and technique breakdown and practice!

[@Faz-Ahmed]

I had a terrible vertical for years, started Olympic weight lifting at a club along with quite a few others, our ability to jump changed dramatically. The only change to my lifestyle.

[@JMP-kw3wy]

@@Faz-Ahmed Did you gain strength doing olympic weightlifting?

[@eimakaiomanguy5532]

It's evident you've just scratched the surface of sports performance training if you truly think just lifting and jumping would give you max results but worry not I thought that too. First of all the law of specificity definitely applies here since Oly lifting is INCREDIBLY SPECIFIC to vertical jumping. Look at the joint angles the times for each pull compared to jumping etc etc. also force absorption on the catch there is so much to mention here on the benefits some of which Dane mentions himself in this short video. You've got to surf the force velocity curve when training for vertical jump can't just lift and jump forever. Not that it wouldn't work it obviously would but it's absolutely not ideal, especially when you factor in sports performance in a broader sense than just vertical jumping

[@JMP-kw3wy]

@eimakaiomanguy5532 Why WOULDN'T it be ideal to strength train and practice jump technique (as well as obviously playing whatever sport you're using it for)? You might want to understand the law of specificity better because it most definitely means that you need to practice very specifically the circumstances and movements specific to thing you want to do. Cleaning, snatching, and doing olympic weightlifting is SPECIFIC to olympic weightlifting, and the only thing that truly transfers over to vertical jump is the strength component.

[@eimakaiomanguy5532]

@@JMP-kw3wy Okay I will break down how Oly lifting adheres to the law of specificity for approach vertical jumping. 1st pull: going from a flexed position to pushing into extension, that would be specific to a penultimate step 2nd pull: Going from knee extension to double knee bend and then jumping from a quarter squat position, almost identical to the plant foot going from extension to flexion and the eventually jumping from a quarter squat after amortization The catch is also very similar to a two foot jump since you're dropping into it rapidly and then have to amortize and go up like you would in a jump, elite force absorption training also ideal for contact sports Then you've got the fact that intermediate velocities also count a lot not just maximal ones and to maximize the quality of achieving them you don't just need high relative strength but also impulse expression. Not even trying to argue my friend just take a moment and consider what I am saying and the fact that most elite trainees utilize such thought and possibly consider looking into it deeper.

[@someonesomeone529]

06:36 that is very bad technique.