Why would 4th Generation JW’s leave?ᴴᴰ | Marc and Cora [Ex Jehovah's Witness]

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[@Sarahopal]

I was 14 the first time I got dissfellowshipped. I so clearly remember sitting in my bedroom listening to my mother bawling on the phone to another sister in our congregation. I heard her say "I can't believe she did this to us, I wish she had just died". I can't explain the pain that caused. I spent years as high as I could get. The nightmares that plagued me from very early childhood only recently stopped. I got dissfellowshipped the last time 20 years ago. I still VERY much believed it was the truth and Jehovah had long ago given up on me. I would on occasion go back to meetings but I couldn't truly kick my drug problems so I didn't try very hard. Then a couple years ago my grandmother died. I went to the funeral with my daughter (who was 19 at the time) and my brother (an inactive JW). Immediately after the funeral I was surrounded by family and they all just stared at me while my father told me I needed to leave, that they were uncomfortable with me there. I was crushed. The dumb thing was my big concern in my heart was now my daughter would never become one of Jehovah's witnesses. She was furious! Which I now see as the best gift they could've given me. God was with me that day for sure. Sorry this has gone long. My husband is the only one I've ever really spoken to about all this. Shortly after the funeral I had a total break down. I remember literally crying until I couldn't breath and begging God to show me what was true. I said "God I will drop every assumption, every belief I have, if you will only please show me who you are, I need to believe You love me". 2 months later (and an unreal amount of time spent on youtube 😏) my husband was on his way out the door to work when I told him "I was raised in a cult". He was 2 hours late to work that day haha. He just closed the door and sat down with me. He had been praying for that day for awhile. I thought that would be the end of it but the spiritual attacks were tremendously hard to handle. It's only been the last couple weeks that I honestly feel like I've shaken the feeling that maybe, just maybe they were right. After I talked to my husband (then boyfriend) we started attending the church he had previously attended. We were baptised, I was finally able to find real lasting friendships, I kicked my drug habits, quit smoking, we were married and happy after 12 years of a truly miserable relationship. When we gave our lives to Jesus and made Him the center of our relationship everything changed. I think right now I'm in a healing process. God has been so loving and patient with me. I miss my family though. So I pray God will get them out of this brainwashed cult. It breaks my heart to think of the millions of JW'S who think they have to work so very hard to MAYBE be good enough but totally miss the point. None of us are good enough. Yet He loves us and we Can (and should) have a personal relationship with Him. I'm never going to allow anyone to make me believe differently again. Again, sorry this has been crazy long. Thank you for these videos and for letting me rant. You are honestly saving my sanity. God bless!

[@jimbobaggans1564]

I am so sorry that you have had such a long and painful journey. Life is difficult enough without a cult making it so much worse. All that is behind you now. You got through it and I'm sure it has made you a better, stronger person.

[@dellythezar8047]

@@jimbobaggans1564 ues life is dofficult enough for everyone to survive even in daily basis for many people, this Jw org came to make it harder and worst, by lying to people that wil they help people to make better live and happy life,, . They just really dangerous cult they do whatever they van to get people in to their trap, good religion loyal to people jw org is betrayal, Their love is sedictive poison,

[@jaymcmurdo5584]

Great testimony. Praise God!

[@mitchmiller2382]

To help your healing, Sarah, purchase the book "Mending the Soul", by Steven R. Tracy and the workbook written by his wife Celestia. It is designed to give a Biblical view of abuse and trauma and healing for them.

[@RitaMalikfour]

Sarah Sheffler what religion did god send you to, do you think it matters as long As you have a relationship with God? I’m a mess and need to find a place to rest my soul from the Armageddon terror and k owing behind our Backs the g b are doing bad things like the u n example and allowing pedis to rape our children then protect the pedo

[@mandyrainbowlocks]

How disgusting to get disfellowshipped just for getting married!!!! This couple are truly lovely and didn't deserve this treatment.

[@nb8936]

"2 plumbers, and electrician, and a window washer." All jokes aside, this was LITERALLY my old halls elder arrangement. "You want me to talk to a window cleaner about my suicidal thoughts?!""

[@compositioncompilation]

With a sheperding staff like Jesus used..the traditional shaped one.. Requires empathy and compassionate regard..taking onto account mitigating circumstances.. Licensed now..the iron rod. Compare please and discuss..its disadvantages.. They don't need experience to be harsh or cold..inflexible and unyielding. Yet. CHRIST..is using it the second coming @! Rev 19:15 Note the possible reference to the avian flu pandemic..in verses 17&18.

[@amazingbibleantiquities7221]

A video like this makes me think the decline of the Witnesses is pacing toward critical mass. Good!

[@naufrage0]

4 years later and its reached it.

[@thrivingexjw2061]

I'm a 4th generation. Stayed for 40 yrs.. very ingrained! I left 22 yrs ago after realizing the religion has nothing to do with following Jesus! Been shunned for 12 yrs because I attend a nondenominational church. I now live a happy life, free of the mind control ! Thanks to everyone on the panel. I pray this cult will be exposed & our families that are bound to it can be free one day 🙏

[@bosley447]

Lonna T So did you find the true religion yet, all you religious freaks are in cults! Being an atheist is far better

[@stevelovesgod]

Bosley The Atheist cult, the cult where the intellectuals say you're not smart enough to see what NASA can say and what the scientist only can understand. Where have you never met the scientist but you believe the words written in the science textbook just like the Jehovah Witness believe will send that book. The only difference is you actually believe in The Institute of these phds

[@DiosanXaquerry]

I am a fourth generation myself... I left as soon as I humanuly could ... things have been taught but I don't regret it

[@thrivingexjw2061]

Dion Santana - it’s definitely tough to break away from 4 generations! I’m the first to leave in my family, so obviously they think I’m satanic now, good grief! I left 25 years ago & it’s gotten a lot easier with time. Hard journey, but so worth it. I wish you well on your path to freedom ❣️

[@RnBMistressWare]

@Lonny T - Stop fooling Yourself, You are NOT FREE!! Look who you turn to go back to? LOL If you went back to the church You certainly are NOT FREE, though in your mind You probably think that you are. Your Mind in Under Control by Man. Your Pastor or Preacher has now got you Hypnotized. He's now got you believing Jesus is God, believing in the Trinity, believing in the Easter Bunny, Christmas, believing the dead come alive as spirits/Ghost, believing in the Rapture, believing once you get the holy ghost your saved, etc. Your mind is still trapped and your under control and worse off than you were before.

[@saraabraham5486]

There's nothing, no sense of culture, community in the Jehovah Witness Religion. I was getting upset when they started changing all the songs, making it less sentimental as you mentioned. Watchtower don't care about culture and sentiment, because it's a business, a Corporation disguised as a Religion.

[@awesomeaudiobooks4767]

Spiritual North Korea.

[@donnazukadley7300]

why did they change the music, "House to House" How can the music be new light? (instead of words)

[@GuruSteve100]

Its all about frequency and changes things do some research

[@realPromotememedia]

That sentence makes no sense

[@jamesmcginn8874]

you are 100% right--big business-pay no tax-its nothing but a CULT--They are ALL BRAINWASHED and Scared to death .

[@kaylamartin523]

I used to be a Jehovah's witnesses. it's a religion that tears family's apart and isolates them from any "wordly" contact meaning you are to have no friends that aren't also in the religion leaving you utterly alone of you leave making it feel like a life ending decision weather to leave or stay, disfellowshiping a person leaving them without any friends or family leaving them exposed to a world that they make seem terrifying and is out to get you is so unbelievably wrong it takes a person years to recover from the trauma, I know because my family hasn't spoken to me in three years, because I had sex before marriage now even if that something you believe is wrong should i have to be shunned by my entire family and all of my friends? I am lucky that I had other ex Jehovah's witnesses to help guide me and the man o had sex with before marriage is now my husband and I can't begin to describe our love and how happy I am and how incredibly free i feel now

[@randomrambler2884]

Kayla Martin dont I know it. They have avoided me like the plague because I refused more bible studies.

[@franmorrison1080]

bizarre

[@jimbobaggans1564]

A relative arranged a Bible study for me. I let her do that because I love her so. So this Jehovah witness couple came to my home every week for a few months. Hey, I gave it a shot. But, once you are out, there is no going back. How do you forget everything you have learned about the organization? How do you just forget that? Anyway, the study ended as they could see I was never going to become a jw again. I had to tell my niece that. I was so glad that I finally leveled with her. I feared that she would shun me, but it didn't happen. I am glad it didn't happen but it was still a curious thing. I can only assume that they never told the elders in their congregation.

[@kaylamartin523]

@@compositioncompilation honestly I don't really understand what you are saying, it's kinda all over the place but listen if you're trying to preach to me you are wasting your time. But have at it guess, if that's what gives you peace of mind, so you can think, it tried to save people so God won't kill me. If that makes you feel safe, do you.

[@kaylamartin523]

@@compositioncompilation I really don't care, keep replying if you feel the need to justify the cult your apart of. But I won't be replying because as stated above I don't care, Merry Christmas!

[@MuscleMaxZ1]

I know Marc & Cora through youtube and they are indeed exemplify being human, humane and caring. Even to me, a never- been JW who posted a video some years ago about the pain I endured by being shunned by a lifelong friend who became a JW and disconnected from me simply because I was not a fan of the WT because of the reasons discussed. Marc mad a video where he played my video in the background and discussed every detail explaining to me in depth why certain things happen. I shall never forget that kind outreach by he and Cora. The entire panel was amazing, their stories heartbreaking and shocking. I wish that this cult would receive the press that the "church" of $cientology is now getting on TV via actress Leah Remini; they share so many of the cult characteristics. Yes, these cults are afraid of the information age, it will get them in the end I sincerely hope. Thanks very much to all the courageous participants for sharing their stories.

[@stephaniebailey4236]

These videos are so needed. I'm second generation. I walked away 20 years ago. It was difficult, but it is the best thing I've ever done. Don't be afraid to face your doubts about the organization. Your doubts are only questions you need answered; questions you should not be afraid to ask. Get out while you can; before you wake up at 70 and realize you went through your entire life with your eyes wide shut.

[@morganrice9754]

Hello sister, i am a brother in the truth

[@morganrice9754]

Where is your congregation ?

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I just discovered your channel. After 32 years I’ve finally awaken. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@Mabeylater293]

What's interesting is the leeway given to witness marriages to separate when one of the spouses is charged with apostasy, while at the same time preventing individuals like yourself from being together.

[@TheKoolbraider]

While Marc had his arm around the back of Cora, did anyone notice he gave her more of a supporting touch when she was describing her relationship with her mother? It's wonderful to see love.

[@Sportliveonline]

Oh, the grand old Men of New York He had ten thousand men He marched them up to the top of the hill And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half-way up They were neither up nor down Oh, the grand old Duke of York He had ten thousand men He marched them up to the top of the hill And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half-way up They were neither up nor down Oh, the grand old Duke of York He had ten thousand men He marched them up to the top of the hill And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half-way up They were neither up nor down

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

It still boggles my mind how anyone can say that they are in a "loving organization", and will openly reject their family members, not for any actual crime they've committed, but because they just said, "I dont believe what you believe". It's sickening.

[@serafin1352]

Exactly

[@Fearless3339]

Wow this bring back my childhood memories. I was born and raised as a Jehovah's witness in Puerto Rico. All I know is that ruined my childhood. And I refuse to ruin my son's childhood. My extended family still in the religion. So sad

[@joannecheckley1280]

My faded husband died 5 years after our divorce. I had disassociated. His service was held in a crematorium. Although there was no mention of me in the talk done by an elder, the JWs there were very kind to me and my three girls. His parents (Dad an elder) even allowed me to go in one of the funeral cars and attend the wake.

[@saraabraham5486]

God is all Powerful; maybe the day will come soon when they'll will be held accountable for lives lost because of the blood transfusion.

[@charlietaylor5136]

sara Abraham also the child abuse and domestic abuse period. the tearing apart families and a lot more.

[@dekishajones282]

sara Abraham in my loud voice... THERE IS NO JESUS, THE VIRGIN BIRTH WASNT REAL. THE RESURRECTION IS A LIE! NOAH'S ARK IS IMPOSSIBLE!

[@KaizokuSencho]

We don't need a God to have a moral compass, we can hold them responsible ourselves. God is just the voice of your own subconciousness, you need to accept that and grow as an being.

[@conscienceaginBlackadder]

Just to add to the marketplace of ideas - We do need God, as many experiences by members of many religions or none all confirm. But the existence of evil + the lack of evidenced cases of magic interventions, evidences he is not all-powerful. Aomnitheism, a-omni-theism, as the ancient Gnostics believed, is a strand of liberal Judaism, + universal spirit nature theologies.

[@dekishajones282]

Marianne Havisham that is called cherry picking! You like the good , fun parts but don’t want to own the bullshit!

[@padussia]

Wow! I had I known the jws were this evil, I would have never given them the time of day!

[@monicam2874]

Marc and Cora are the reason I fully woke up after being out of the religion and still believing it. They are amazing

[@albertafarmer8638]

You need to believe in the true JESUS from the Bible if you want to get saved! The JW's deny the deity of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST - this is deadly: if you believe that our LORD s only a created being you can NOT be saved!!! JESUS CHRIST is GOD, see John 1! HE always existed with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT = the GODHEAD or Trinity. Thank JESUS for paying for your sins on the cross and HIS resurrection on the 3rd day!!! It must come from the bottom of your heart. Listen to great evangelists lke Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. David Reagan and their guests.

[@R.Oates7902]

@@albertafarmer8638 I don't agree with you. I will NOT become a Jesus freak or atheist. I'm fine without religion. I have morals I follow. I have my own conscience and that's what works for me. I don't need to study a WT or go to cult meetings 5 times a week. I stopped doing that in 2013. Mind your own business. Thank You

[@albertafarmer8638]

@@R.Oates7902 Great that you have morals but there is no forgiveness of sins without JESUS CHRIST. If you die in your sins you must go to hell. JESUS says in John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Please choose life!

[@KDJWTV]

I'm proud of the couple that got married because they loved each other instead of falling policies of the elders.

[@carbon273]

Somebody should point out that when a mother BREAST FEEDS her child. That child is literally eating blood.🧐 Where does the milk come from???

[@albertafarmer8638]

Milk is a different matter. the Bible forbids us to eat blood, see Acts 15, 29 but they JW's are a cult! The JW's deny the deity of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST - this is deadly: if you believe that our LORD s only a created being you can NOT be saved!!! JESUS CHRIST is GOD, see John 1! HE always existed with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT = the GODHEAD or Trinity. Thank JESUS for paying for your sins on the cross and HIS resurrection on the 3rd day!!! It must come from the bottom of your heart. Listen to great evangelists lke Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. David Reagan and their guests.

[@shonaford3595]

I was DF ‘d best way to be a witness. Don’t have to preach, don’t have to answer, don’t have to speak to anyone. I had an unbelieving husband so I still had a life outside. This story of Marc and Cora was instrumental in me leaving.

[@jomansfield750]

Left my hubby after 30 yrs,I was never disfellowshipped,just faded,and still have two older sisters shunning me over 15 yrs,heard recently,from some other family member my oldest just started chemo,as she has cancer!! So sad,hope to see her someday before it's too late!! XO

[@Boogernaught]

I relate to these stories from my own journey out of the cult of Christianity. We had a similar moment all dressed up driving to church, feeling sick with dread. Husband asks “Shall we just go to breakfast instead?” Everyone in the car cheers. It was such a relief to leave behind the toxic mind games and start living and enjoying our own lives.

[@carbon273]

Man I’m saddened. I look at my JW friends and all I see are burdens on their backs. It saddens my heart. Please, whoever is reading this pray for them.

[@albertafarmer8638]

Tell your friends to believe in the true JESUS from the Bible! The JW's deny the deity of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST - this is deadly: if you believe that our LORD s only a created being you can NOT be saved!!! JESUS CHRIST is GOD, see John 1! HE always existed with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT = the GODHEAD or Trinity. Thank JESUS for paying for your sins on the cross and HIS resurrection on the 3rd day!!! It must come from the bottom of your heart. Listen to great evangelists lke Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. David Reagan and their guests.

[@karenlsaunders]

We need to care enough about the ones that are still in

[@DhyannForester]

KZbin just now suggested this video to me - thank you! I love Marc and Cora! They are such a true and loving couple and should have been held up as an example of how a Jdub marriage should be!

[@jamieangel3766]

what a lovely couple they are, i find it so uplifting how in obviously love they are with each other its good they followed their hearts instead of their elders

[@ThisIsMyDarkSide]

Nice to finally see Cora again! Haven't seen her in any videos on their KZbin channel for almost a year now :/ Happy to see both of them sharing their experience :-)

[@dolam]

Great experience. Good to hear from you guys. Much love to you and your family.

[@saraabraham5486]

Toward Marc and Cora; Its a shame that the elders went around provoking your family to shun you like that; that's a true characteristics of a CULT. Watchtower will be judge SEVERELY for what they do to families.

[@hermanodejesus7264]

Spike R, JWStruggle, John Cedars and Marcus Vaughn are some of my favorite channels. For some "funny" reason I've never seen any of Marc & Cora's videos but I must say that the degree of respect and gratitude I have for you just went off the roof after listening to this. Can't wait to see your videos, you are so kind and the love you have for each other is so encouraging to see. Thank you so much for exposing the cult.

[@elaineekins2471]

Lovely to see you looking so well Marc and Cora. Missed you lots.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Hey Marc and Cora! You all are looking good. Enjoyed this video. ~Lady Cee

[@jenniferschade3774]

ExJW Critical Thinker thank you both for your videos as well!

[@ellenkaufman3886]

Scientology and the aftermath

[@Cor6196]

I've seen some pretty violent videos on KZbin over the years, but this has to be one of the most shocking. When Cora spoke about their shunning, so cruel, so inhumane, I gasped, and my jaw stayed dropped for many long minutes. And when Mark said that the JW's would stone them if it were legal, I thought "They actually do that in some countries" - a different, majority religion in countries far away, but the principle is the same, and it's motivated by the same ugly psychology/psychopathy: your existence as non-believers threatens my own beliefs, therefore you must die, if not physically, then psychically, socially, emotionally. Die dammit! Disappear! Let it be as if you never existed! Mark and Cora: With what clarity, focus, and eloquence you puncture this mad ideological balloon! May the rest of your lives be as full of peace and joy as you deserve after all your long suffering! How I wish that millions could see this video and be as struck as I was by its power, its truth! My warmest thoughts to you both 💕💕💕

[@jivinjuju]

Great interview with great people.

[@Starwars-Fanboy]

EXPOSE THE WT CULT Hey ... I remember your username from awhile ago and seeing your comments and at the time I hadn't "woken up " yet . I just wanted to say thanks for playing a role in making me realize how false the cult is

[@Sportliveonline]

Oh, the grand old Men of New York He had ten thousand men He marched them up to the top of the hill And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half-way up They were neither up nor down Oh, the grand old Duke of York He had ten thousand men He marched them up to the top of the hill And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half-way up They were neither up nor down Oh, the grand old Duke of York He had ten thousand men He marched them up to the top of the hill And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half-way up They were neither up nor down

[@ronjames3410]

Marc, I love your comment that the P.O. is the "Godfather". I always called them the head Pharisee... :)

[@justinleemiller]

Outside people think all this is nuts, but it’s real. Lives are destroyed by this nonsense. I am living through it now.

[@2026Johndoe]

Me too

[@serafin1352]

Stay strong and keep moving forward! Follow Christ. I am with you as well.

[@bobbypaluga4346]

Excellent, thanks for uploading. It's amazing that the WT has so little interest in a person's joy Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for JOY therefore goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. John 17:13 And now I come to thee, and these things I speak to the world; that they might have JOY fulfilled in themselves.

[@bryanbond3886]

my wife is not a witness and my mother has a relationship with her just not me. how crazy is that

[@laCEELISAK]

Bryan Bond I'm not a witness and my boyfriend faded, the both of us and our child has a great relationship with his JW parents. he had to move out of state when he left but never got disfellowshipped

[@daisyjune5135]

Nice to see you guys! You both are always so interesting.

[@marwatson7408]

They left because every generation before them were told the same thing Armageddon is right around the corner and are probably tired of hearing it.. The elders can’t seem to explain these overlapping generations. I know people who are now grandparents, and great grandparents. My generation was told not to have children (that was 30 years ago) because we are living in the last days wait until the new systems of things. Glad I didn’t listen I would have given up that opportunity to have children and have a family of my own.

[@perceive8159]

A cult through and through,cannot describe it any other way.

[@samuelherd4499]

Clearing my throat( gossiping sisters? ) excuse me? , where do you think they got their information from.......Gossiping Elders , they are the worse kind! I hate how if a female gets second hand news or enacts in a second hand way, the original perpetrator is left off the hook, ie Men!

[@RandyMabusedJW]

I don't think that they regret the blood doctrine that they practice, because they love human sacrifices.

[@saraabraham5486]

They are some wicked people them Jehovah's Witnesses; to stop people from getting marry; a union that The Most God honor. I had a similar experience When the Presiding overseer asked me to stop dating because long distance relationship doesn't work. I didn't listen; and I was persecuted and was unable to have my wedding at the local Kingdom Hall; knowing What I know Now, I am glad that I didn't have it there.

[@ThisIsMyDarkSide]

sara Abraham Good that you didn't give your power away like what most JW's do. No one has the right to tell you what kind of relationship you should have! It's not their concern nor their business :-)

[@matt7iron]

I heard from a jw at work that jw men creepy elders will stalk and sit in parked cars down the street from jw single women apts to watch the sister to see if she's up to no good is this true.

[@padussia]

Woe! Thank God I didn't get baptize, because I'm single.

[@steann1]

+matty thats true matty......one local elder at my congy would sneak out at night and peer over the back fences to see if single or even engaged brothers were having visits from anyone they shouldnt, Same elder tried to get a couple of older married brothers to keep surveillance on a single sister for the benefit of ' spiritual cleaness ' .....but they told him he was breaking the law ( peeping tom..stalking.. )...and violating scripture about minding ya own business and told him to get lost. I fixed a sisters gate... ( she wasnt home )....and got harrassed cos my work vehicle was seen in her driveway...so yes, they spy on you.

[@matt7iron]

+steann1 I'm thinking about asking for a study and then joining the cult for one month and just when they think they got those poisonous fangs in me real good I'm going to drop them like 2 tons of rusted scrap at a wrecking yard.

[@darlenesmith1432]

Nice to see you Marc & Cora!

[@crosscarryamerica1553]

Marc and Cora I certainly enjoyed your candid testimony about the way that Jehovah's Witnesses treated you and your actual event of leaving, I really appreciate that you used a lot of the research that you have done as part of your testimony and I believe that that probably goes further to plant a seed, if any Jehovah's Witnesses may watch your video later on. I didn't think you guys were judging anyone, you were like the Bereans who searched diligently and this is where your decisions came from. I was also a fourth-generation Jehovah's Witness and I raised my children in that religion up until the time the youngest one was about 16 I believe that you guys are Christians I had watched one of your other videos a while back and I got that impression that you are Christian I hope that that's true. sometimes when people ask I tell them that I was raised in religion but I received a relationship with Jesus Christ. I am so thankful to my Lord Jesus two of my daughters the two oldest came out of religion receiving Jesus as their LORD and Saviour, the oldest one two years after I left their religion and the middle daughter about 5 years after I left the religion. my youngest daughter though has send me for nearly 14 years. She was a pioneer when I left the religion and about the last time I did anything with her was when she got married. in fact I was waiting on her husband to ask me to bless them and he I hinted around to it he never would ask and so I was very candid about it and I said I would like for you guys to let me bless you and he said to my daughter we need to get going and he left me and he walked away. I think my daughter wanted me to bless them, but since her fiance walked away she just looked embarrased and had to follow him. I really thank God for the molding and shaping he did with me and I have been always willing to talk with Jehovah's Witnesses since then I've learned that I can't tell them I'm a next witness because he'll immediately cut off the conversation but I have been a pastor, so I can truthfully tell the JW's that as a pastor I have researched the Jehovah's Witnesses and these were some things that I found or were wondering about in order to engage them in a conversation, of course I'm able to plant seeds for the word of God for Jesus and even seeds of doubt about their religion. KZbin keep it up, be kind courteous, loving but make revelation about the corruption in this organization and I know God will draw souls to your Channel that will get enlightened. God bless you.

[@matthewscott1091]

I’ve heard a lot of JW grandparents will only have bare minimum communication with their ex JW adult children in order to arrange visitation with their grandchildren.

[@chrisb012]

How can they one minute reinstate Marc and Cora, yet within a short time declare them unclean, and not fit for association?? Either the 'Sin' of their marriage had been dealt with, hence the reinstatement, or it hadn't...

[@dianesicgala4310]

Love you both Marc and Cora. I am English. Grew up in Norfolk also lived in Suffolk. I married an American who was in the airforce. I did not do well in school and only did 10 yrs in secondary school. When I came to The U.S. I was really put down. Also my Dad was Polish. And I was called very unkind words. Was never treated like this in England. I converted to the Catholic Church. Did not know my faith like I should have 2yrs after my conversion I had my son 2 yrs later I had my daughter, In 1995 I worked for a nice lady who was a J.W. I converted after about 2yrs. My daughter followed me in but 2years later she decided to dissociated herself. 2010 she got married in the West coast. I was told not to go to her wedding. After that I felt so bad. In Aug 2014 I dissociated myself and went back to the Catholic Church. I did research on the Catholic Church. Read the Early Church history. The early Church Fathers. I truly believe a soothing wonderfully happened when I went to my youngest Goddaughter's wedding. Next day I went to Mass and finished my Journey back to theChurch.. my family in England never minded me becoming a Catholic. They were happy to see me get out of this evil cult. My son and daughter are mainline Christians. So I am happy with that. This J.W. Cult did me a lot of damage emotionlenly . I now take depression pills. I wish the zu.S. Gov would look into this evil cult.

[@dianesicgala4310]

Meant to say the U.S. Government would do something and look into this evil cult. Keep the good work up. Wish there was a Ex J.W. group near where I live. I live in Northeastern pa.

[@jerryjohanan1940]

I was disfellowship twice for asking questions while I did things the way they did been out of it a long long time and just found out that A sister that used to be friends worth back in the day she is now disfellowship to and she was 3rd generation and she told me Debt they have changed some of the wording in The Bible

[@Rain-Peters]

I don't know how I missed this video, but loved it.

[@gcsoulsurfer]

Pretty sure their destructive policies will eventually bring them down. I hope we all get to see that.

[@serafin1352]

Amen!

[@clementmabunda3131]

Thanks, Marc and Cora...

[@andrewxjw]

I can relate to Cora when she spoke about her schooling. They pulled me out around that same age so they could focus on indoctrinating me at home and less on actual education. JW parents do this a lot.

[@1951kvk]

My brother was living with a disfellowshiped JW and then she decided to go back! Worst day of our family's life. They of course had to get married and she emotionally blackmailed him into attending and now he is part of the CULT to keep her happy. Guess what, she is never happy because they attract really unhappy people who can't live their lives without being dictated to. I love my brother very much and nothing will ever change that however he has changed and is not the same person our mother loved and raised. I pray for them every night and ask God to be merciful when they die and stand before him as we all do.

[@jenburlock377]

It's Dec. now, and have finally come across this video, and I hope you help more across the pond in getting out of this cult!

[@albertafarmer8638]

But you need to believe in the true JESUS from the Bible if you want to get saved! The JW's deny the deity of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST - this is deadly: if you believe that our LORD s only a created being you can NOT be saved!!! JESUS CHRIST is GOD, see John 1! HE always existed with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT = the GODHEAD or Trinity. Thank JESUS for paying for your sins on the cross and HIS resurrection on the 3rd day!!! It must come from the bottom of your heart. Listen to great evangelists lke Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. David Reagan and their guests.

[@jenburlock377]

@@albertafarmer8638 Why not get the book called "Nailed" by David Fitzgerald and what he has uncovered, he's also on Mythvision podcast. In a video called 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed! Try and watch it & get the book then tell me that there was a man named Jesus!

[@bryanbond3886]

very painful my mother has not spoke to me in yrs. my mother does not shun her grandchildren. just me

[@grhomer2454]

I went through exactly the same torture for two years. the year 2000. and exactly the same story.

[@throneofgrace2949]

Totally brilliant interview! Amazing testimony you both have and also so sad 😞 with the disgraceful way you have both been treated and the very tearful shunning of people and especially your mother. You poor lady.. it’s so sad 😞 At least you now have each other to help strengthen you both. Jesus loves you and would never want His children to be unhappy or shunned or suffer, whether it physically regarding blood transfusions or mentally and emotionally. It was an extremely interesting talk, I look forward to seeing more and will subscribe.. and what an amazing presenter/host of the talk, very articulate, precise with great explanations to the audience with an extra flavour of wit! It did make us laugh. I’ve never been to the Kingdkm Hall as ima born again Christian but I’ve been invited recently by s friend who is trying to persuade me join their religion:(...I’m not sure it’s for me!)🙏✝️🙌👏🌼🌸

[@jeannec7558]

I admire you for the fact you tolerated it for 3 years after being disfellowshipped. You are a wonderful couple and I hope you have a really lovely life together. Jehovah knows what's in your heart and you dont need a false society to get his approval. Love to you. 😘

[@TheRoman1964]

Thanks Deborah, you did an absolute wonder job.

[@jerrylahjalahtiex-jw5587]

Marc and Cora. This video: GREAT!!!!

[@oalmannearn6949]

3rd generation here (both parents raised jw) disfellowshipped at 18 this is a destructive cult

[@matthewscott1091]

Can I just say that Deborah Frances White is SO underrated? I love Mark & Cora’s story but that aside I actually learned about Deborah through watching videos about ex-JW’s. That’s how I discovered this hilarious woman. Is she more famous in the UK? I’d never heard of her but I love her humor & Ted Talk. I just wish she had a filmed stand up routine I could watch! 🙏🏻

[@nouzanam]

😱 what in the world?! I can't believe what I am hearing! What Kind of wicked wicked religion is this?

[@junemallam1243]

Marc and Cora, Just watched your last video, and you two were great! Deep Agape love and respect as you two went through so much, but never went crawling back to keep other J.W. family members happy! I am surprised you both didn't have a breakdown, because this organization is so evil. Take care Xoxox 💗 💜 💚, June Mallam

[@nora_nayeli]

They are superstitious even though they don't want to admit it. I remember there was this former JW sister who got disfellowedshipped. Long story short her relatives were selling a dress she owned when she was a Jehovah witnesses but didn't want it to no more. Basically I liked the dress and they went on a debate cause her mom who is a JW was like "But she is disfellowedshipped it's not okay for you to have something of hers cause it could attract negative energy. It's just better if we sell it to a non JW." And I remember there was a full on debate about it cause her other daughters who were in the truth said "Yeah but it doesn't count cause she stopped wearing this dress when she was still a Jehovah witness. She got rid of this dress before getting disfellowedshipped." And in my head I thought the whole situation was silly. Cause she was accused of being an apostate. Which is even more silly now cause for whatever reason if you are considered an "Apostate" they treat it as equivalent as if your worshipping Satan or something. When a person could easily be referred as an "apostate" for something small like questioning something that genuinely seems of or by reading things that contradicts JW.

[@kirstenornelas881]

I actually had messed up, told on myself and was disfellowshipped at 18 years old. I also went through this, every meeting, nobody would even make eye contact with me. I was reinstated after a year then after my dad died (bled to death over two days fighting cancer with everything he had!) Because he couldn't have the platelets he so desperately needed I walked away and never looked back.

[@serafin1352]

Sorry to hear about your Dad. Keep the faith in Jesus Christ. The Borg will go down. They are evil.

[@missreggie1985]

I can’t believe the horrendous things the Jehovah’s Witnesses lived through - it’s deeply upsetting and frustrating to know that so many people are cut off from everyone they know and they don’t have any friends from the outside world - it is just incredibly lonely. What a dangerous cult it is. As an ex muslim I can see the similarities between shunning ex Jehovah’s Witnesses and apostates in Islam.

[@mickbland3990]

That is absolutely disgusting an elder pointing at you and saying you are unclean ,what a loving organisation

[@aliradmard8990]

Jehovah Please turn our eyes away from *worthless* things. We ask our prayers through our *high priest* and *king* of God's kingdom . 🙏🙏🙏 Amin

[@deborajh0917]

Ty for sharing.

[@taranicole6827]

this is amazing

[@carolxmas3331]

I asked an elder ........ " if I can have a fraction of blood now .... Can I have a fraction of fornication or idolatry "Acts 15

[@carbon273]

Carol Xmas Yeah I’m not sure on what scriptural basis is blood fractions accepted? If you’re gonna use the Bible as a basis for the no blood transfusion practice, you can’t compromise. The same can be said about not celebrated holidays because of pagan reasons yet they partake by default in a lot of pagan influenced activities. Objectively there are a lot of inconsistencies.

[@motorway2roswell]

Cora I'm so sorry to hear about your mother shunning you until she died. You, Marc, and your kids sound so strong! I'm popping over to your channel after this video for a like/subscribe

[@1697djh]

I have heard that blood transfusions are a matter of conscious today

[@juliuscaesart]

Older doctors promote it but science is actually in favor for bloodless alternatives.

[@indycarr3964]

I was raised JW, left at 15. I'm now 60, and I still have no emotional attachment to any of the holidays. If I never did Christmas again, I wouldn't miss it.

[@twinstar9]

Wow- I would love to know the "reasoning" behind not being allowed to carry the blood refusal card when one is disfellowshipped. Why would the GB want to make you spiritually in a worse place, when supposedly disfellowshipping is partly for the purpose of helping one see her evil ways so she comes back? The other supposed reason for disfellowshipping is to keep the organization clean, so does this mean they prefer the disfellowshipped one to die with no hope for resurrection? Disfellowshipping is not supposed to be permanent! This prohibition on carrying the blood refusal card reveals that the organization is just plain cruel and hypocritical, and it's all about status and image. They don't want a disfellowshipped one to appear to others to be a JW and that's what it's about- not any spiritually valid reason.

[@BesaDior]

Love Marc and Cora. I thank them for giving me coc. It changed my life.

[@alexcampbell8135]

Leather jacketed woman with the "Guardian" voice does not want plumbers, electricians and window washers dictating how she should decorate her home or how short her skirt should be. You don't want to take home an opened pay packet (Even if you work at the BBC or Chanel 4) to her.

[@richardvsassoon5144]

I understand everything you are saying...even agree, but trust me, your family is experiencing a very similar pain. They believe you ( whom they dearly love ) have betrayed them, and more importantly that you have betrayed Jesus, and most importantly, you have betrayed Jehovah...turned your back on God. okay, so what now? I realize, in part , this is self-preservation. A need to express and push out of your mind the intensity, the cruelty of a perceived injustice. I see your point, but they don't...they may never, as with your grandmother who died, convinced you were abandoned by God. So, when people, who clearly loved each other, but now feel betrayed and a line in the sand is drawn, how do we carry on? Your new friends have similar experiences, and there is another feeling, perhaps even stronger...Complete disappointment in a future that we believe was promised and yet now we see as counterfeit, a figment of imagination based on a co-incidence that occurred in 1914 - A World War, then pestilence, the Spanish flu and suddenly, the words of John, aged apostle who waited and waited for his Master's return, "Amen, come quickly, Lord Jesus", is fulfilled. It was a mighty wind that filled the sails of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and Joseph Rutherford was a savvy enough Captain to turn the ship with the prevailing winds. Eventually, time ran out...and the expectations proved to be delusions. How we react to that, denial, anger, acceptance is a large part of who we are, and it takes time to ...renew our contract with life. With different clauses and exceptions, based on previous surprises and pain. It seems to be the universally accepted feeling that we all can understand. So, please, in the midst of this new found freedom, remember your former family is not free. They are bound with strong ropes, tied by strong traditions, that compel their behavior. The truth has set you free.

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

Hi, my name is Tracy and I'm a 4th generation JW as well! I left a little over 4 years ago. I live across the street from the Kingdom Hall! My 2 grown children were both DF'd for no good reason so I decided I wasn't going to stay around and never talk to my kids! My mother and sister however felt I should kick them out and go to meetings! I was tired of being single as well, no single Brothers here in California 😬. I am so glad to not be going in service or rush for meetings and all the studying!!!! I've just started to look at a few KZbin videos and it is funny how similar they are to other religions with shunning! My mom told me I am going to lose my life and I said I guess I won't know it so it won't matter!!!! My kids were the catalyst for me leaving. I am not DF'd and I have never even talked to the elders in my cong. I live right across the street from the hall! My mother and sister drive by my house multiple times a week and I'm surrounded by witnesses because I'm so close to the hall. The witnesses pass me and act like they don't know who I am!! I've known them for 25+ years. My mom has breast cancer too and I took her to all her appts and when I stopped going to meetings she stopped talking to me. I didn't do anything wrong and they don't talk to me.😰😰😰

[@deniseheupel8814]

Bargains, Beauty and More I've always wondered how we were supposed to get along in the new system, because I never once felt or seen true love or caring from any of tgem- only harsh judgements and critical attitudes of not being being righteous enough to associate with. I'm so thankful I got out early!

[@ms.rhythmjones5419]

Bargains, Beauty and More ,I'm 60 And I've been gone for a very very long time. I never healed completely but there is no way I would ever go back my mother died due to leukemia she did speak to me a little bit before she died but barely my sister does not speak to me at all it was an endless battle I am very happy I don't live anywhere close to my home anymore no matter what I tried to stay strong I can't believe anything that they say I see too much fallacy in it and I've done a lot of studying through the years. they can say things if they want to I would never harm anyone intentionally but I can't go there so anyone not speaking to me I say it's just not family anyways. family doesn't walk away from each other if it's that easy to forget me and consider me dead then I hope I get to rest in peace without all that drama and fakeness

[@serafin1352]

Be strong and keep faith in Jesus Christ. I have a similar story and pain. Im DF’d apostate and activist and my wife just faded as well and she is shunned just as I am. It’s disgusting how this Borg operates and needs to be shut down by the government or made to pay for ruining lives. God Bless

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

@@ms.rhythmjones5419 hi! I just saw your reply today! My mother died last February and I got my sister out! We are back together and she even missed the memorial a few days ago! I knew she was only going because of my mother. Because my sister was never baptized! She almost was going to get baptized after my mother died but I got to her and saved her! I’m so glad to be out!🌺🌺🌺

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

@@serafin1352 I agree! They ruin families! My mother died last February and I got my sister out! She almost got baptized but I got to her first! I told her all the things I’ve learned and she was shocked just as I was! She is 55 and had never been baptized, she was only going for my mother! I’m glad I got her out and that I’ve been gone for 8 years now! Thank goodness I’m not doing all they want from people! So glad not to be knocking on doors and studying!🌺🌺🌺

[@shannonwrighttreesandbutte390]

My son isn't married yet but if he has kids I won't know unless I stalk him on facebook! Its sick and sad!!!! I just don't care anymore, it terrible too feel this way about your own kid! But his grandparents and him have been bullies too me, that I am fucking tired of it! I hope he wakes up!

[@Steve-pl8ii]

I was very tormented by much incurred trauma. My internalized distress from so much pressure put upon me by so much outside murmuring, heckling and badgering then apparently heart wrenching fear of failure, let down and loss, made the congregation members, mostly the elders paranoid, and spooked out dare my emotions showed through. I was forever forced to always bottle everything up and keep a nice "witness" happy face on. Just look all wonderfully infallible for everyone. Just apparently suffer in silence in quiet desperation while walking a constant tightrope of unrealistic ideals even while overwhelmed by the induced pressure and performance anxiety, trying to keep up their contest for God and squeaky shiny white image while giving me a insecurity complex just trying to always please for fear of contempt, then Incensed inside by so much contrary faces and horrendous double tongues, forced to simply bury all the outrageous hypocrisy and walking contradictions of arrogant smug pompous folk who constantly keep holding out on you, leave you constantly hanging, left in the dark, not knowing whether your coming or going with anyone of them, caught in their charades and constant poker faces, WHILE feeling constantly socially confined, hemmed, secluded, and marginalized to death....and on top of that.....if that wasn't already worse....forever hold your guts in of every disquieting thought you ever had for fear you trip someone out or get met with the "funny" eye and "crooked mouth", or 3rd degree, then stonewalled to death simply fighting just to talk to someone just trying to air things out of so much internalized grief, pressure, turmoil and distress, mostly all the performance anxiety that leaves you constantly spun out, overwhelmed, deflated, and exhausted and a completely nervous wreck which, in my case, then escalated and continued to build and build while there was no place for it to go, all the intense emotions from so much pent up emotion like a pressure cooker carried my entire life of all the let down and unsurmountable pressure just trying to conform like a yo-yo to unreasonable demands and ideals then keep a constant straight face on for everyone. The elders started picking up on my bouts of agitation that would voluntarily and involuntarily show through, the panic attacks just roaring out of nowhere. They then made a public spectacle of this tried to get me to incriminate myself for them to appeal to their morbid preconceptions making me out as some "commotion" or "trouble maker" or nut job then threatened to disfellowship me then told me to my face I "SHOULD BE STONED" and said "you are doing this to yourself" ", "got yourself disfellowshipped", "only have yourself to blame", then told by his accomplice who felt the need to continue hating on me that I "will not be ACCEPTABLE until the new system", then the next dude said "once disfellowshipped my "slate will be clean". How the hell is your slate clean when you are kicked to the curb and incriminated to the hill and treated like a monster under neath their perfect feet? Even still since crawling back to them and now reinstated, they still treat me like an outcast, Ne ER call me once even when my mom almost died from a stroke. They make me feel like I always at their mercy always on parole like I am in constant detention. They walk around like enforcers. Police officers. Badgers. Power trippers. They even said when they felt the need to claw into me, chew me out and tear me to pieces, they told me that I am making Jehovah look bad and also the congregation and bringing reproach on a God. Damn me for showing any pent up entangled fear, pain, hurt, bereavement, despair and deep sadness nevermind the embedded guilt from being constantly made a fool of and the guilt from never being able to measure up so perfectly as they. Instead of any positive reinforcement or commendment they are told they are "admonished" to give, they instead kicked me to the curb and put further strain on me escalating whatever anxiety I already had, but then also incurring additional family strain from what happened to me onto my mother to the point of her blood pressure causing a stroke. I am positive their added strain to our family caused my mom to almost die from a hemmorhagic stroke! My dad is dead from not accepting blood to top it off. They made me feel like a constant embarrassment to myself and to others. Even told me that I "shouldn't feel" or "shouldnt have problems" if I was at all the meetings and just praying, reading, and always at meetings. Then why do they still have diseases and die if it was a magic wand? I wonder how they would treat a holocaust victim if they marginalize you dare you suffer any mental breakdown. They disfellowshipped me for having as they implied "fits of anger". Apparently they are all perfectly calm and collective and at resilient ease and are all spiritually wonderful infallible princes who do not ever for a second show any fright or alarm, are never once grief stricken to being distraught, nor do they ever wince, quiver, or flinch since the are never compromised for a moment. But me, I am some misfit or imposter if I ever am caught having a down moment or mental breakdown. Apparently you must be perfectly calm and emotionally unresponsive at every waking minute. Damned if you are vexed and hurting deeply and happened to be caught yelping for help.

[@Peonies925]

Steve Its pure HELL! Satanic! The truth is where the Spirit of the Lord is...there is freedom. And it is by grace we are saved through faith and not by works. Jesus alone paid the price for all our sin and no one can boast or judge another’s walk.

[@davidburroughs7068]

I suspect the entire blood controversy in the jw's is due to: A. The legal liability - "so ... let's sneak it back in by allowing blood fractions and that takes care of nearly all of the liability." B. Perhaps a gb member or gb family member needed one, got one, and benefited, and so it ".... we must get it excused." C. Or, if "we must get rid of the BT problem, let's slip it back in over time so the lost ones are from so long ago every one still in will not find it remarkable."

[@kevinbeckenham3872]

I am surprised there has not been a Government investigation into J.W's, all pain misery they caused people; that U.K Government have not removed there Charity Status.

[@jamescosme5763]

Great video

[@katjavestergaard489]

I love Marc & Cora 💟

[@jenniferschade3774]

Katja Vestergaard ummm...y'all have some fantastic videos too!!! LOVE your guys work.

[@jfb919]

Wait, so where do book studies happen now?

[@theunknownbachatero8899]

I was dating a JW who was disfellowshipped (I am not a JW). After she got reinstated, my fear of losing her led me to begin studying with JWs (at a congregation some miles away from hers). All the while, we had to keep us a secret. My studying showed some things about their beliefs that I couldn't see myself doing. The whole 'shunning of a fallen witness' thing shocked the heck out of me. While I was studying, our relationship ended & quit about a year later.

[@davidbyford1651]

i do not know about cult religion thing wrong over 2017?hope help sir...

[@caligirl7525]

Love them! 💜❤️💜

[@Jph1602]

I was brought up as a Jehovah’s Witness. I carried on going when my mam and dad stopped going. I left aged 15 but kept praying all my life to Jehovah. Aged 36 12 years ago i became a Christian. I’m now leaving Christianity and I am really struggling. Where can I get help?? I live in North Somerset. England. I really need some help

[@LeelooHere]

There's absolutely no explanation of what this recording is from or what the event is. What exactly is this?

[@jaybabcock4557]

I can remember a talk given by the District overseer in Holt Michigan in 1992. He had a paper bag with him on stage. He started talking about association with disfellowshipped relatives sons and daughters, fathers and mothers. He then said if this was in a world that was ruled by Jehovah like after Armageddon this is what you would be talking to and took out what I assumed was a replica skull, and held it up to the audience like it was a warning.

[@andrewxjw]

I know people who are not "scripturally free" to marry according to Jehovah's Witness teachings. Very insane policy and religion. I'm always happy to see people think their way out of faith. Preferably all the way out.

[@chazchillings3019]

Normally these things are super boring, but this is very interesting

[@RatedExceptional]

Thank God for "that" stubbornness. It's paying off now.

[@cmccracken5976]

My ex husband is in an adulterous marriage and he just got reinstated but it took a couple of years. No consistency