Will Pogačar DOMINATE the Tour de France TOO?

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[@OnyxTortoise]

Chris froome will be in contention this year now that he fixed his saddle height.

[@adamcurpier]

OMG 🤣

[@stevec6232]

Waiting for new excuses...

[@User_17727]

😂😂😂

[@hobmarg]

💀💀💀

[@franciscopontesvelasco4315]

Lol

[@mickelkobeck7376]

While it is TRUE POGI wasn't pushed what Chris is NOT saying/overlooking, is that Pogi basically treated the last 10 days of the GIRO as a training camp....attacking and doing his "interval" work when he wanted and to the level HE wanted.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yep. I said more less that when I said Pogi wasn’t even sweating. 👊🦋

[@michaelglidewell1524]

In the past 2-3 years, Jonas and Tadej only had to worry about each other, but with Primoz and Remco added to the mix this TDF could get very interesting.

[@tonyg3091]

Remco? No.

[@living4speed680]

Evenepoel never showed that he can match Vingegaard or Pogacar in the climbs tho!

Remco will be in yellow for the first week and that's it

[@tonyg3091]

Stage 4 is in the first week, so thats a “no”..😂

[@USUG0]

Roglic and Evenepoel can hope for being left at 5min, instead of 10min like the rest

[@stevenappelget3564]

Prediction - the winner of the Tour will be the rider whose team has the least amount of knuckleheadism.

[@Zooview5757]

UAE will have a bunch of Solerisms.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

100% agree with. 👊👊🦋

[@tonyg3091]

It is almost certain Soler will go nuts on at least one occasion 😂 I don’t envy the DS of UAE that’s for sure-with 6 pure climbers in the team mountains will be…interesting.

[@suisinghoraceho2403]

You can afford a few Knuckleheadism if you are UAE and Jonas aren’t there or aren’t 100%.

[@matijett]

@@ChrisHornerCycling according to strava, stage 20 of the Giro was Tadej's best power output for 1h. Just in case you missed it 😇 keep it up🦋 Greetings from Slovenia👊

[@ericvonhellens8822]

Being a Tadej fan, don't give him the trophy unless he earns it. This is why they race. Need good tactics, health and luck.

[@alphaniner3770]

Thanks - this beats most other knucklehead comments here like Tadej won the Giro!

[@luisrosoccer]

I wanna see a double tour for Pogi. Will be bummed if it doesn’t happen

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

It's been too long since the double was achieved. I thought it would be Froome, but now I think Pogacar is the most likely. Even if Vingegaard could do it, I don't think he cares for it.

[@Zephyr653]

With all respect to Remco, Rog and Jonas, the strength of UAE and Pogi is unbelievably strong. I hope that the other big 3 are close to 100% but if Pogi and UAE executes close to target, they win the TdF. Can we just fast forward to July?? Cannot wait for the tour.

[@tonyg3091]

UAE brings an interesting team to the Tour. They may be in trouble should they need to control the peloton in the flatter stages. I don’t envy the management-it will be herding cats in the mountains.😂

[@bullten5416]

Pretty easy for UAE to control. Nils Pollit and Wellens are very solid flat riders. Sivakov and Soler would 100% be domestic that Can ride in the flat also (but I don't think they would have to) and they climb wery well.

[@tonyg3091]

@@bullten5416 That they are yes. But there is only two of them and the rest are no match for Jumbo or Bora and looking at the route of the Tour-plenty of stages when things can go wrong. But we will see.

[@bullten5416]

@@tonyg3091 I don't think that any difference Can be made in the flat by Jumbo or Bora. Majority of UAE riders are very good TT specialists. And Tadej got the best climbing domestic. He had definitively the best team on this year TdF.

[@Forested-pz9cp]

Excellent analysis Chris ! Love this channel

[@francisyuweh706]

Bernal! hoping the 5th fav, Jonas, Remco, Primoz, Pogi, this would the best tdf hopefully!

[@M3Atelier-Initiative]

Sepp and Mateo will be riding the Dauphine with Remco and Primoz. Can't wait to see how they go. I bet Remco and Primoz hold back a little.

[@ArnyRimmer]

Kuss and Joregenson are fine, but in a completely different league than the last Tour winners. At the Dauphine, we will only find out what condition Evenepoel and Roglič are in. If they don't clearly dominate, they won't stand a chance on the Tour. Personally, I think Remco and Primoz are very weak this year. But I will be happy if I am wrong. It would be nice if Tour has more favorites.

[@MDP1702]

Remco already said he rides the Dauphine mostly with the intention of training, since his recovery set him back a bit, but they expect to make it up by the TdF, but that it might be too early now.

[@n.heroep2786]

That's a million dollar question isn't it? I would love to see him complete the double. Ilove to see the best rider in the 21 century made a history. But my heart goes to Roglic, even though I'm not sure if he can compete with Pogacar this year. Few years back, yes, but it's been 4 yrs since Roglic was better than Pogacar. And not to mention Primoz is a crash magnet. Also I think this year, Tadej looks stronger than the last few years. He looks leaner now and rumor said that he still needs to loose another 1.5kg for TDF, 😲. He is going to be a beast.

[@keikit8390]

C’mon Primoz Roglic! Give Pogacar some solid competition 💪🏼

[@Sportsloverandrew]

Man I'll take a bet on Roglic next week if he does a great TT on what looks like a perfect TT course for him. downhills uphills. I feel like he always thrived on those type of courses.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@Jack42Frost]

Great show Chris. I really enjoyed the Buy Cycle shows, you did a great job for them. Hope your vocal chords get a good rest, you could get out on the bike and enjoy a few days off

[@eddyaveti3047]

Great content Chris, looking forward to your videos for the remainder of the season, especially TDF!

[@Didyoureallythinkaboutit]

EVERYONE…please like and share now and let’s get Chris to 100K for the Tour!!! He deserves a million.

[@ttapping]

Hey @chrishorner, I was flipping through the KZbin videos and saw the bearded Bob "St. Nick" Roll and TeJay VG on an NBC show called "Beyond the Podium"! What's next? The Peacock Effect?!! 😅 Theft is the best form of flattery!

[@hobmarg]

Peacock Effect LOL

[@Bleepins]

October 12, 2023 I placed a bet on Pogacar to win the 24 Tour. My only regret is not betting way more! +175 odds

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Wow. Really. I wish I knew that then. Good luck 🍀👍 🔥💰😱🔥🦋

[@Chiller11]

The thing that muddies the 2024 Tour de France of course is the pre tour injuries. All the major GC contenders except Tadej Pogacar have had their pre tour training plans significantly disrupted by injury. We really won’t know if those disruptions are surmountable until the Tour begins. I’m looking forward to the Dauphine to see how Roglic and Evenepoel perform. I’m still not certain who I’m pulling for this Tour.

[@burronorteno]

Looking good Chris!

[@vaxxxx]

does anyone else see the pattern of Primoz being ultimate team builder. He went to Visma and within years it was a superteam, culminating with 3 grandtour wins in his last year. This year he is in Bora and if it werent for Pogi, Bora would already have one. Same time, where is Visma? can you imagine such a perormance from Visma last year? Looking at how things are going, Tour will be same. UAE and Bora will be the heavyweights.

[@MDP1702]

I don't think it is fair to give the credit for Martinez to Roglic. Bora already was a good team before Roglic attempting to get with the best and Martinez just seems to do fine with the fine. Giving Roglic credit for Martinez' perfomance does a huge discredit to Martinez and Bora. Roglic's presence might have helped build up Jumbo (though that also is mostly due to a new vision in management), but it is way too short for him to have had a real effect on the entirety of Bora. Visma has just had insane bad luck with crashes and illnesses this year.

[@superstrada6847]

I love (find ridiculous) when TJ talks smack against TP. It's like, TJ what did YOU do as a pro? I used to like BR when he had his own channel and was able to stay in his lane!. NBC is totally out-classed by current pro-cycling channels; Beyond The Coverage is one of those channels. Thanks Chris!

[@counselor5286]

tj whined through that entire episode. An embarrassment.

[@jamesgem1809]

What has this bozo done as a pro?

[@fabiovalentinuzzi5589]

He's still hurting after Tadej destroyed him at Tour of California 2019 😅

[@MrMurl]

Almost at 80k

[@goatbloat8233]

At this point I am mostly hoping to see "the gentle giant" wout burn up some stages. Unless the GC is really close I look forward to big stage wins. Even seeing an underdog like Quintana have a good day in the mountains would be fantastic.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Nairo days of old 💪🦋🤞

[@tonyg3091]

I am most looking forward to Mathieu absolutely demolishing them in a couple of stages. And his leadouts for Philipsen. And of course Pog shining bright in the mountains.

[@jimjr4432]

So Chris, as I remember you said that, yup, they were the "B" team, so it was not a good team decision regard to rider strengths. Well as a 79yo barely rider, I'm thinking that this race was not all that exciting, actually pretty boring. I kind of really enjoy those close races. Love your videos, I learn so much and so enjoy them.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

The TdF will be here soon and then Pogi will get pushed from every direction. 🔥🦋👊

[@emmasloan1489]

What do you make of the roles of guys like Ayuso on UAE , Kuss on Visma, Landa on Quickstep , Hindley on Bora , ( Ineos is a mystery , but there are a few there too) ..... I can imagine a 2023 Vuelta situation where a super domestic can get a bunch of time even starting at stage 1 and be a worry for the top 4 GC guys that we all have been talking about.

[@rickguerrero2282]

Holy cow……..is Bobkie homeless??? He looks like Dave Letterman’s doppelgänger!

[@herbuen]

Seems he only shave it once a year. Right before the start of TDF... 🤙🇺🇸

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

It’s getting long 😱🦋

[@ZENmud]

The first TT on the first week has 200m of ascent in the first half (or 60%) of the course, then descends... it'll be fun to see how many corners that descending second half has. 🎉

[@GeekonaBike]

If I'm putting $$$ on it I'll take the long odds on Primoz Roglic. Pod won't pay much better than the short odds on the Giro.

[@markdeane8385]

I wouldn't be surprised if pogacar went for the triple...can you imagine that record...he would definitely be one of the gods of cycling. 😊

[@andrewpoland8398]

Possibly Pogi will get a big lead (5+ mins) in week 1 to 2 as Jonas rides into form and progressively eats into Pogi’s lead in weeks 2 to 3 as Giro fatigue starts to tell on Pogi’s legs. The other two big hitters keeping us all guessing…. Now that would be a fan pleasing spectacle. That’s my best guess.

[@paulader9007]

I don’t think Remco gets enough respect . He hasn’t hit his prime yet and gets better as he does grand tours. Just needs to be more consistent. PR couldn’t beat TP four years ago. How’s he beat him now? Can’t imagine JV will have the form needed to win. TP should win his third

[@counselor5286]

he is one year 3 months younger than TP who has been in prime since 20 just like the youngest rider in the giro this year at 20 years old. So when does he come into his prime comparted to TP?

[@tonyg3091]

Respect won’t help him in the high mountains against monster climbers like Pog and Jonas.

[@fabiovalentinuzzi5589]

He has not shown the same consistency in big mountain stages as Jonas and Tadej. He can't push 7.1 watts per kg for 15/20 minutes, multiple times during a Grand tour.

[@ShimmyD-u7g]

Well you pretty much nailed my line of thinking as well. I do however think Remco at this point is a bit overrated. It's definitely time for him to show if he's got what it takes to hang with the best.

[@MDP1702]

@@counselor5286 Pogacar is just an insane rider. There is also the matter that Remco lost a lot of time and progress with his Lombardia crash (1,5 year at least). If you look at the all time PCS ranking points divided by active years, Remco is 2nd active rider (not even accounting for his lost time), but Pogacar is well in the lead with almost double points/active year. Remco has high enough peaks to compete, he has just also lacked consistency, something Pog has had since 2020/21 already (arguably his biggest strength). In fact untill last year Remco had some higher peak climbing performances than Pog, but Pog had consistency and improved a lot in the last 1,5 years too. Remco on the other hand is more inconsistent and bit more bad luck imo (like with Covid at the Giro when he was looking really good or the crash in Itzulia now).

[@cuebj]

Best thing about TdF will be this channel and your analysis. Probably no need to watch it live

[@swisstopia]

I like Tadej’s chances to win the TDF, even more now, because he wasn’t challenged at the Giro. He can do a taper with some altitude work, then come into the TDF with some flying form. 🦋👊

[@joowsty]

tho i do think Roglic and Evenepoel are better than the competition for Pogacar in the Giro, i dont see them get really close to Pogacar in the GC. I think in the end they will lose more than 4 minutes to him. So for me its only a matter if Vingegaard can reach a 100% during or at the start of the Tour. I do really hope he will cuz it will be a nice battle again!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🤞🦋👊

[@MatejCotar]

I see it as a close battle between Pog&Roglic, till the last breath,...

[@stefanocavallin6221]

The last time there was a Battle between the two was 4 years ago and even then tadej won. Based on the recent years tadej Is by far the best 10 Min at Thomas and Company while roglic beat him only last stage and almeida was also in the competition. Lets see tadej form After the giro and roglic preparation

[@mmgunner8x]

@@stefanocavallin6221 you are comparing the incomparable... let`s see how it goes and enjoy the race, since it can be the greatest of all times.

[@subtropicalken1362]

You sound much better. 😊

[@TheMrbrookster]

I worry that the fatigue may hit Pogacar late in the Tour, but it anyone can do it, its Pogacar.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🤞🦋👍

[@telapreta9795]

roglic was with the leader's jersey in basque country against both Jonas and Remco peak form, surely says something...

[@tonyg3091]

It says Jonas was not at peak, that’s what it says…😂

[@fabiovalentinuzzi5589]

Only because he won the time trial prologue. There wasn't any mountain action happening before the crash

[@telapreta9795]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 true story bros, but with vlasov e hindley to back him up, that's just good business

[@MDP1702]

There was nothing yet indicating that Remco and Jonas were at peak form there and no real action outside of the ITT happened before the crash. So Roglic wearing the jersey says nothing.

[@tomsmith5216]

I see a tight fight between the top 3, with Evenepoel as an outside dark horse. These guys are elite riders and I'm betting there recuperative powers are better than we think. It will be a great TdF

[@ptbot3294]

Talking about A team, Visma team at TDF 2021 and 2022 are surely A+ team. 2021: Double leader with Roglic and Jonas, and the superman Van Aert. 2022: No Roglic, but Van Aert still going strong and Sepp Kuss was super.

[@bozidarsicel3884]

Pogačar will win TDF the exact same way as he won Giro. He will have immeasurable stronger support from his team and he is in the best form of his brilliant career. Giro was just an excellent training and confidence booster for him.

[@ElizabethBidinger]

From your lips to God’s ears 😊

[@tonyg3091]

No way he wins the Tour by 10 minutes, that’s not happening. 😅

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🔥🦋🇫🇷

[@sirrex-ug3ug]

I hope not lol, Pogi was the only top 25 UCI rider to enter the Giro 2024 race.

[@draloalo]

I bet you said the same last 2 years.

[@DonACtS]

Yes

[@robbchastain3036]

Tadej sure made it look easy in Italy, super easy and fair enough, his time to shine and shine he did in Italy. Yet he seemed greedy by trying to flag-to-flag in Pink. And O well, his race, his call, but when I watch a three-week bike race, I'm looking for serious soap opera drama, like what will happen next, I'm at the edge of my seat, wondering what will happen next as the Giro turns. 😀

[@sbrusgaard]

Sitting here with my almost 3 week old broken collarbone, I would find it absolutely amazing if JV could just win a stage or two this year. Winning it all would be bonkers, but he is younger, (much much) fitter and have a whole medical staff supporting him, so I wouldn't rule it out. Sickness and crashes happen all the time - also for some of the other top contenders, so pure "luck" might be enough if he can just stay on the bike!

[@counselor5286]

Much much younger than roglic is what you are saying ?tp is 25

[@sbrusgaard]

@@counselor5286 I was referring to myself being 51, and JV being much much fitter. :-)

[@dcataj5085]

He will win TDF, World Champs, Olympics Road Race and then Vuelta. Z2 rides for Barbie Man.

[@thomaspetersen9991]

In your dreams 😂😂😂 because Vingegaard is back

[@dcataj5085]

@@thomaspetersen9991 I bet when someone comes along to beat Barbie Man they will say THAT person is on "the program" which if you listen to Barbie Man fans A LOT of them accuse Jonas of doping so it's quite comical when you see that. Jonas is doping but Barbie Man is "all natural".

[@CharlesRiley-d4t]

UAE's b-team certainly gained teamplay repetition and experience to add to their TDF enhancements. However, Maybe they will have other teams actually apply preassure from the start to finish. I am hoping for a race, not just a tour!

[@rctedford]

I must say it sounds like your allergies are easing up some or you have found some good drugs. I agree with your analysis, seems spot on and I can't wait for the TDF to start.

[@anomander-rake]

Big Tadej fan because of how a races but the Anchovy beat Tadej in back-to-back TDF so he is still the favourite. Tadej will have to be more circumspect. Would love to see a Primoz win.

[@DavidBogenhagen]

Pagaca was acting confident until roglich and Jonas ganged up on him..he was hamming it up scooping cereal figuratively.

[@shema02]

Beyond the podium !!😂😂😂😂

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Exactly 🦚😂😂😂😂🦋

[@michaelbergfeld8751]

Pinkačar must run like the pink panther to get those yellow eyes for his vacation ride in Italy will not do.

[@EITiga]

Will Geraint peak at the Tour? Maybe no because of the Age? We ALL know is he can be a good helper for Carlito and Bernal with his experience 💪

[@J-cz7yv]

When are we expecting time gaps to appear? I guess UAE may go full gas Stage 4 and see if Tadej can get a split before the decent? Other than that the Stage 7 TT… I’m thinking the gaps are still pretty close between top 15 riders coming out of the rest day.

[@tonyg3091]

Dominate the same way as the Giro-I very much doubt it. Most probably he will win it however as I doubt Jonas will be 100% and Jonas is the only one who can stop Pog.

[@jonathanzappala]

You have to show up, Tao geaogenhart did, and he is a GC winner.

[@TedDagnese]

I CAN’T DO IT….:G Thomas

[@RyanPerusich]

Any thoughts about how much Pogacar has grown as a team captain?

[@TheRedDown]

TDF can be all uae podiom this years.

[@franciscopontesvelasco4315]

Theres a big issue for Pogadcar and that problem is called "vinegard" and Jumbo. If jumbo didnt take part in ths tour he would dominate again

[@francistumwesige1028]

Why do American pundits, for every show, have to go on and on hammering about how the Tour is the biggest race and all others do not matter. European Channels simply analyse and cover each race on its own merit, a sign that they respect their fans to know, appreciate and enjoy the uniqueness of each race. Do Americans have to be told everyday about the importance of the Tour - or it is still the Lance Amstrong validation thing? Trust your audience to know which race is what and let them enjoy each race.

[@ZENmud]

It is "media marketing hype" because all the other races barely get mentioned.

[@USUG0]

it all depends on whether Vingegaard will be there, and in what form. Roglic and Evenepoel can hope for being left at 5min, instead of 10min like the rest

[@doctornrsfnly]

Pogi broke a WRIST last year and missed just enough training to make the podium, win 3 stages, and the young riders jersey and get smoked on 2 high alpine stages in the heat... By Jonas who was reliably delivering 6.5-7 watts/kg for 20+ minutes in week 2 and 3 of the Tour Unfortunately Jonas broke several ribs, blew a hole in his lungs, had blood in the lung cavity and was in hospital in Spain for so long that his own FATHER did not have any updates on his status. The man just got on the bike 2 weeks ago. If he is not ready for the Dauphine he will not be ready for the TdF... Meanwhile Pogacar won six stages, the KOM and overall at the Giro, after riding at 6-almost 7 watts /kg at will as he won stages almost on accident There are 5 weeks before the Tour. Both men will be at an altitude training camp before the Tour.. If Jonas shows up to the TdF it's already an incredible recovery that deserves all our respect. Remco's broken collarbone will go for stages, but he cannot hang with Pogi when the climbing gets serious. Primoz has a good shot if he stays upright, if he gels with his team and if he can deliver the watts in the heat on high altitude climbs long enough. Tadej's biggest opponent will be 30+ minute long, high altitude climbs in the summer heat. Not Jonas Vingegaard.

[@kevincockburn7805]

He won 2 stages and Yates won one stage. For the 3 stages UAE won.

[@dannyjensen2123]

In your dreams. Jonas will be ready.

[@zvonkocafuta9989]

My prediction: Pogi No.1... Jonas No.2... Remco will crack and loose everything...and Roglic will crash hitting a gopher or squirrel :)

[@philipb.1950]

If Jonas starts he should be the favourite as the two time defending champion. But it will be close

[@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc]

jonas said he just got back on the bike, who knows how is body and psyche are doing but 5 weeks to get to 90 some of percent seems like a tall order

[@ZnakeTech]

No, that's quite a while ago now, spend a few weeks on the roads in Denmark, then went to somewhere in Spain I think for a about week with his family, and did a few rides and hit some climbs, and now he has just started an altitude camp, and he was probably already going a bit on the indoor trainer before that.

[@jacko314]

i think that Pogy is the favorite, but Jonas is incredibly tough. He has wiped out in stages of the Tdf and managed to keep the lead. I mean he was working at a fish factory before winning the Tdf. If anyone can come back from serious injury it is him.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🤞🦋👍

[@andrewlabat9963]

This is cycling at it's pinnacle, and a long pinnacle, so anything could happen. So we watch and wait.

[@sebulonafrika6006]

Chris how do a team share winnings in a grand tour eg. You have the leader that win stages and GC and there automatically wins the most amount of money. But does he then share that winnings with the team members that helped him

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Will Pogi dominate? Kneejerk answer...yes. Now let's hear the real answer from Chris 👍

[@bg147]

Does Tadej have the team to take on Visma? In the past, I thought his losses had more to do with Visma having Wout and a stronger team. He could use a Remi Cavagna on UAE.

[@mumblerapkilla5406]

UAE this Tour: - 4 riders who have podiumed a Grand Tour: Pogačar, Ayuso, Yates, Almeida - 2 other mountain domestiques: Soler, Sivakov - 2 flat rouleurs: Wellens, Politt (both have come top 5 in multpile 1-day classics this year)

[@MarkKanaster-ev6pq]

Anyone know what Tad,Jonas,Rog,and Remco VO2 max is?just curious 🧐

[@Forested-pz9cp]

Should be above 100k by the end of the Tour

[@Chezfran]

Yes, he will.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

after what happened to the other GC contenders he will dominate by default imo it would be much more fun to watch if Jonas and Remco give up on GC and go stage hunting instead, but that won't happen, I can already see them fighting each other for 3rd place sigh Roglic will porbably get 2nd place, he seems to be the least injured lol

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I so hope those two do not. The Vuelta last year would have been amazing if Remco just fought with Jumbo still on every mountain stage. 🥲🦋🔥

[@tonilauge5786]

Well Vingegaard is in France Tignes! Heigt training going after plan. 4 weeks should be enough. Jumbo Rolling the A team out. Roglic hoping Not to crash ( Again). So forget TP the Easy conditions. Ineos also will take Their A team. Every Yeam will meet With their best. That why TDF is the Best Tour there is😜

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

JV at peak form would dominate Pog like last year, but after his serious crash, injuries and long layoff, I doubt he will be at 100%. Pog's best chance to win is to go full gas the opening week and gain as much time as possible on JV as Jonas usually gets stronger in the 2nd half of grand tours.

[@bozidarsicel3884]

Last year Wingegard's TT at TDF will always be under *?* for me. Period.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

That was legendary TT. 🔥🦋

[@kkryspin]

Hey Chris, First of all, whatever Tejay and Philippa are saying needs to be discounted by a factor of 2. First, Tejay needs to learn how to pronounce Tadej's name. Whenever he talks about Pog, I need to remind myself that he's referring to Tadej, not some 'Podgikhar.' Even Christian Vande Velde graciously corrected him, but apparently, Tejay didn’t get the memo. And Philippa, our resident expert, declared Roglic was fat-6 lbs overweight-and he went on to prove how gloriously ridiculous she was. Clearly, their predictions are as accurate as English soccer fans chanting "it's coming home". I agree, this will be different for Pog because he's going to have to contend with GC riders he didn't see at the Giro. If you look at the Giro, none of the top 20 GC riders were there. That said, he's on another level this year, and having Jonas, Roglic, and Remco healthy will certainly be a test. On Jonas, I've always said that being 85%, he should go to defend his two titles. Unfortunately, there are pundits like Tejay who don't think the way we do. Tejay thinks that would be bad for Jonas's psyche, but what do I know? One last thing: I know Jonas is a top-echelon rider, but he was only able to get on his bike 5 weeks before the Tour, and 5 weeks, according to LA, is not a lot of time to get ready. We'll see what happens. Fingers crossed Tadej takes this TDF home. After all, what's a race without a little drama and a lot of expert 'insight' from Tejay and Philippa?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

We love drama no doubt. Certainly Jonas has tons more confidence than Tejay gives him credit for. 🤔🦋💪🤞

[@climacus7118]

Another question is, will Vingegaard regain his 2023 strength? If he does, the answer to your question is: No

[@Flum666]

fun fact, if Jonas isn't ready for the Tour then he'll do olympics and Denmark will be the strongest team

[@tonyg3091]

On that course he is getting his ass handed over to him BIG TIME 😂😂😂 The course has Mathieu’s name all over it.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🤔👍👍🦋

[@bl_arr]

Tadei, let's do hat trick, TdF and Vuelta!!! In his Giro's form he can do it, and nobody can prevent him! The only reason not to win that races is his own factor - injuries and exhaustion.

[@louisfourie800]

Hi Chris. Just out of interest sake. Around when must Jonas go to altitude camp in order to be in good form for the tour. I saw he was doing training rides in Mallorca which can't be ideal prep for the tour.

[@henriksylvestolsen4885]

he is in Tignes now!

[@louisfourie800]

@@henriksylvestolsen4885 oh oky awesome thx.

[@philiprice6961]

But could Pog do the treble? He seemed fantastically strong in Rome.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

That’s a good question and one everyone will want to if he wins at the TdF. That would be a crazy long season but I couldn’t imagine not trying if you already had two won. 🤔🦋👍

[@arniemejia]

Who is UAE’s second super climbing domestique?

[@jimpollock8303]

Adam Yates

[@northumpquatrail]

Or Ayuso. The UAE "A" team looks loaded.

[@Kipketer911]

Or almedia

[@mariyankolev4427]

this team looks insane they didn't bring McNullty and Bjerg...

[@ericvonhellens8822]

I wonder why McNulty doesn't do many grand tours...??? He did the Giro last yr and the Tour in 21 & 22. Maybe the Vuelta this yr? I won't hold my breath though.

[@mickelkobeck7376]

Yes, unless Jonas is at 100 percent. POGI will win the TDF.

[@stephenmagee3766]

Way too early. A lot can happen. The double is so hard. The talent level is higher and his opposition is rested. You need luck and form to win.

[@Kipketer911]

I think we are really underestimating people. If you told me Jonas, Roglic and remco not there at all then yes he wins. We are being slightly disrespectful to 3 guys that have a combined 7 GT wins. It’s not a slam dunk.

[@dadonwelfare]

A 91% fit Ving will destroy a 98% fit Pog

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Or Roglic. 🤔🔥💪🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@Patrick_Runnels]

@@dadonwelfare based off what? I’m not a Pogi fanboy, but if you are basing things off last years tdf when Pogi was injured and I think was only 90% based off of things like how Thomas dropped him then that’s a bad measure. This year it’s Jonas who’s had the messed up prep and Pogi has increased his power and has lost weight. Jonas is an oldschool rider in that he preps the whole year for just the tdf so the prep matters. Pogi just did the Giro as a training ride so I expect him to be fresh. You never know what could happen and wouldn’t base anything off last years results.

[@ciprian7]

Tadej won a TDF with out a team and he can do it again, he lost a TDF with a very solid team because Jonas was superior, anything can happen and it will,

[@francistumwesige1028]

Any pundit who is talking up an epic Tadej, Primoz, Remco and Jonas four way battle at the Tour simply wants to create false hype to increase subscribers and views for their show. May be its also an American thing - artificially hype up the Tour at all costs even if the reality is otherwise. Everyone knows there is no way a guy goes from almost dying by the roadside, to surgery in hospital, to riding a bike for a few weeks and to winning a grand tour three months later. No way Jonas will be competitive. Chances are he won't even turn up. Froome, Bernal, Cavalli, etc have not fully recovered for years. It has taken Alaphillip almost three years to recover from his Liege crash. Beyond the physical fitness, there is also a huge mental and psychological damage that takes long to heal. Cavalli can't feel safe in the peloton almost two years after her crash. For a long time Remco had a problem with descending following his Lombardia crash. No one know how Jonas' body will react to actual racing. It is not a machine to simply get switched on. Besides the physical, Jonas will take several months or even years to even psychologically integrate in the peloton and learn to descend again in a group. It is like starting all over again. As for Remco, again everyone knows he is not a first Tier Grand Tour rider. No way he is competitive against Pogacar. It is even worse he is coming from an injury. That leaves Pog and Rog who has not convinced at Bora. At Paris Nice even Vlasov was challenging him for leadership.

[@333wheeler]

Only guy who will beat Tadej is himself .He could in theory makes some spectacular mistakes or get taken out with illness or a crash.

[@andrewwalsh4662]

IF Pogacar can get a handle on his GC rivals in the first 10 days and manage properly, the conversation will switch to doing the triple. Why? With his opposition on the back foot due to injuries this will be his only year to make history. (Barring any crazy crashes).

[@metallica2500]

Out of all the good teams UAE was the only one that had their team captain in the Giro, true or not true?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Not true. Ben O was their team captain on Ag2R. And G is at Ineos their best until Egan is 100% healthy and at his best. Carlos is close but G still has a much better resume and Tom has yet to prove he ride three weeks. 🤔🦋👍

[@metallica2500]

@@ChrisHornerCycling I don’t see where I was wrong in my comment, I don’t care if someone’s injured or not at their best, if they signed on the dotted line and they are the boss of the squad I don’t care who shows up in their place they’re still team leader, oh by the way the AG rider will not be competitive at the tour, so I don’t consider him

[@DDai-qd8uk]

Just wanna see pog go for the triple! Not like he is gonna win at the Olympics anyway.

[@cardboardcrawlersrc8805]

Sometimes too much talk about what would have happened if this or that. Let’s focus on what actually happened

[@bozidarsicel3884]

Tadej went full gas only in two TTs. Nowhere else.

[@Kipketer911]

Ehh not true. I forgot that one big mountain stage at high altitude he won. We went for that too at the end. Still only 10-15min of racing

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

And…. Stage one finish. He was 100%. But that was a super short climb. 😂🦋💪👍

[@niklashentze8114]

short answer is no, jonas is the better gc rider, end off.

[@scotth3354]

Dominate? Maybe, but for the Tour he won't be racing against 2nd and 3rd string competitors like he did at the Giro. At the start of the Giro, Tadej was ranked #1 in UCI points. No other rider at the Giro was in the top 25.

[@dr.merlot1532]

Egan Bernal will dominate. He will be 666 seconds ahead of the second placed rider.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👹😂🦋👍

[@bronzilla5]

If you ask mother nature, then Primož has the greatest advantage. You can't compete if you have broken ribs and a broken collarbone, lungs.... Tadej is exaggerating with his body again... but cycling and medicine are not mother nature...

[@mchaisso]

FLiRT?

[@ml2299]

If Jonas was going to win this year's Tour i would say that Tadejs career is over...