Wolves of the Shadowlands

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

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[@Dragito5555555555555]

Wolves and packs go together like peanut butter and jelly

[@HavocHounds1988]

I think all of the Wild Gods/ Loa were apart of Ardenweald at some point, and were distributed to different planets by the Winter Queen. Considering Bwon told Vol'jin in "Shadows of the Horde" that the Loa seen the world form, meaning they were in another plane of existence or something when it happened. And you can find a Wild God in Ardenweald that came from a different planet and is not in charge of one of the groves.

[@HavocHounds1988]

And interesting thing to think about with Fenris Isle and the lake is that Durotan's brother's name was also Fenris, and he was responsible for killing his own father in AU Draenor and becoming the chieftain of the Thunderlord clan.

[@shadowgamer4306]

What is also important according to me is the title by which Durotan’s brother Fenris was called. This title is of course The Iron Wolf. The picture that Etch showed when he was describing the wolf from the Fenris isle was a large metalic wolf. Is there a possiblity that the three brothers Durotan, Ga’Nar and Fenris represent these three wolf spirits similiarly to how in the beginning of the video Etch the Quack mentioned the idea that Athair and Athaine were representing Malfurion and Tyrande?

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@shadowgamer4306 It's possible, especially with the new information about the First Ones shaping the entire Cosmos. It's possible that a lot of worlds are similar in a lot of ways because of this factor.

[@Saleos25]

I discovered you just a few days ago and I gotta say, I?m mad I haven't found you sooner! I'm obsessed with your videos and I'm gonna watch them all asap! Can't wait for new content!!

[@calebcoatsworth8800]

"Long have we waiting to get access to this realm, and to think we have a mortal to thank" The priest blade talking about the shadowlands?

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Possibly. However I am more convinced Xal'atath was referencing the seat of the pantheon.

[@calebcoatsworth8800]

Love your content man. What are your thoughts about the sha at the seat of the pantheon?

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@calebcoatsworth8800 Honestly I think that was just an artistic move. They look creepy, but I don't know if they were intended to be aligned with the Void.

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

@@calebcoatsworth8800 Thank you. Difficult to describe because it goes into what the sha may be. (Which is a quacked can of worms) Shortest answer I can give is I think the Dungeon journal description of them is correct and their might be a relation to the shadow however trying to explain why and how is a mess.

[@HavocHounds1988]

The second picture for the Wolf Spirits I'm pretty sure is Durotan when he gave into his Bloodlust and killed all the Garn as well as his own wolf.

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Yep. I was honestly torn between switching the positions of savage durotan and Grom and or using the Kargath or Kilrogg for that position.

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@thedreadexpanse3817 What was the idea behind showing those Orcs. I thought you were saying they were spiritually connected to those wolf spirits.

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

@@HavocHounds1988 I am saying that, I'm just not sure weather I got them correct. As in I think the ones I aligned were correct but at the same time there were other options and combinations I was considering.

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@thedreadexpanse3817 Ah ok, I think Kargath would have been a good fit for the middle one.

[@HavocHounds1988]

I think Ardenweald and Bastion are basically the Lifelands, and maybe other realms of the Shadowlands that we don't see since the Shadowlands is basically infinite in size.

[@mrtianflo7728]

OMG a new video!!!😛🔥

[@NQuick-bn7ts]

You always have the best Lore videos! Have you ever looked into the Giant SnakeMen skeletons added to Desolace during Cataclysm? They are on the south end, you can clearly see arms head and armor coming out of the ground. Is this pre- Black Empire?

[@HavocHounds1988]

Maybe children of Sethraliss?

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

I honestly can't say, because they are so obscure however, when you look at the world map there are still a lot question about Western Kalimdor that haven't been answered. So I figure its a possibility and a Gizmo mentioned, they might be connected to Sethraliss, though the question of why they ended up there is still a big question regardless.

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@thedreadexpanse3817 I'm just thinking due to the whole continent being one at some point, she may have had some influence that far west. But like you've said it's really hard to determine.

[@shadowgamer4306]

@@HavocHounds1988 Who is Sethraliss?

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@shadowgamer4306 The Snake Loa that is worshipped by the Sethrak in Voldun who are said to be her descendants. She sacrificed herself long ago to immobilize a C'thraxx named Mythrax. Her death is what eventually turned the Jungle of Voldun into a vast desert.

[@ReplicationTheDruid]

Great videos as always - I do get lost in them though

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Thank you. I will try to make them clearer in future.

[@shadowgamer4306]

I think that they are already perfectly clear. You just have to pay atention to what is beign said.

[@HavocHounds1988]

Dude, you should check out the Venthyr Druid ability. It helps your theory quite a bit I feel. Thanks for the shoutout man.

[@HavocHounds1988]

I believe there is only one surviving member of the Arathi bloodline, and it's not Anduin. It's Danath Trollbane.

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

The Trollbanes are the descents from the ancient humans Alterac. They took over Stromgarde after Thoradins line traveled south and eventually created Stormwind.

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@thedreadexpanse3817 I know, but I believe Anduin Lothar was Thoradin's last descendant.

[@doof497]

Your spirit becoming one with Goldrinn... it reminds me of Akunda and his clensing of your soul

[@doof497]

Oh and there is this Giant Black Wolf in Frostfire Ridge. It reminds me of the Dark Goldrinn. I can't remember the Name tho... Looked it up its Nok'Karosh de.wowhead.com/npc=81001/nok-karosh

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

@@doof497 I know the one your talking about, its considered a Garn (Another type of wolf on Dreanor) The wolf in the center of the of closing images under Sirius is a Garn.

[@dukiduck7035]

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[@frazerrhughess]

DukiDuck you just like him because he is using your dad as the channel mascot

[@dukiduck7035]

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[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Thank you for watching and I'm glad I can keep you entertained. At present the best way to support me is to like, subscribe and share the video with others who may like, sub and share. This may change in the future however for now just the simple stuff helps a lot. Also ducks for life.

[@HavocHounds1988]

Hmm, that is a good point. Why is that island called that, there are no wolves anywhere near it. So it's not because it was home to wolves or something.

[@callingofcreation6420]

Dread, i founf you by accident and love your videos. Althought you went through a lot of investigation, what are the whispers of illgynoth. He mention many thing three lies the boy king will offer. The diamond king has benn made a pawn and many other things. Those whispers didn´t match with nzoth one beam destruction. Do you have a theory about it? Those nzoth knows what´s next or something?

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Thank you. As for the whispers. At present I am under the impression they are exactly what they seem. Whispers of events that will likely happen in the future. (From when they were whispered.) The boy king definitely seems to be Anduin. As for the lies, it seems as if they haven't happened yet considering whats coming in Shadowlands, I think the part of him serving the master will come true with int he expansion. As for the Diamond king, I do think that whisper relates the Magni and his current role (As in a pawn of Azeroth) because the whisper was in the past tense meaning it had already happened.

[@shadowgamer4306]

Isn’t it peculiar how the realm of the dead is called the shadowlands? You know who serves the shadow the old gods of course. Would love to hear your thoughts about this.

[@chaoslance4959]

Fine, you have came to the conclusion Dream is part of the shadow lands in completely different way I did like a week ago, but it doesn't contradict anything. I dare to say the theory is correct. Now, maybe you mention it later in the vid (I'm at 14:07), but don't forget G'hanir, original world tree and domain of Aviana, the afterlife for flying creatures. I went a bit nuts from that point (Teldrassil had to fall so the soulstream would flow directly into the Maw), but this lore staging point can solidify it.

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Sorry man. I must have missed your theory in discord. I also did completely for get about G'hanir, which thinking about is does help slightly prove this theory. Or at least the part where certain trees can be aligned to certain creatures.

[@chaoslance4959]

@@thedreadexpanse3817 Don't get me wrong, I am not mad or anything. (Altho I agree starting the comment with "fine" makes it look so, sorry) I love it when the same conclusion is reached by more ppl independent on each other and from different angles, it gives the idea more legitimancy.

[@vorben7826]

my big question, old gods. minions of the shadow, have to invade the SHADOWlands. doesn't that seem weird? like that's where they would come from?

[@exxzgaming5938]

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[@nino__2997]

I like it

[@callingofcreation6420]

This dude sounds like preston jacobs from the channel of game of thrones.

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

I don't know who that is. I'll have to go look him up.

[@frazerrhughess]

Who is Ramsey?

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Curse of the Worgen comics series main character. Basically hes a Sherlock Holmes archetype,, so I know not that original, with that said I think seeing more stories about him in WoW would be fun and interesting.

[@MrSoulcreek]

this sounds like a kick ass biker gang... can I join?

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Sure. They took me in and I'm a duck. Apparently the only requirement is you howl when the full moon rises.

[@MrSoulcreek]

@@thedreadexpanse3817 damn, I am just a skull with a hat, I lack the vocal cords for that :(

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

​@@MrSoulcreek Got something that can record and playback noises? If so, you can record a quacked ducks attempt at howling, just play it every time and you'll be fine. Just be glad you don't have any ears. Its not a pretty sound. 😄

[@wrongix6544]

Yeeee Idk man...