Worth Waiting For The Trueno? // 2023 Toyota GR86 Review

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[@michaelj7069]

“Everyone needs a sports car”. No truer words spoken 🥰

[@craigcampbell8560]

Or a muscle car... Both are fun to drive.

[@Shad0wBill]

Yes, I just got mine the day after watching this.

[@heldermonteiro2718]

i prefer the peugeot 308 gti rc

[@michaelj7069]

@@heldermonteiro2718 can’t argue with that.

[@Realkeonr]

​@user-yr7ey1gw9jthen you're dead

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

It cost just about as much as the Z.. These cars are starting to cost way to much for 4 and 3 cylinders..

[@mostcom]

Phenomenal job on this review.... but aren't they all phenomenal reviews when coming from Sarah.

[@johnmbell4642]

Hey Sarah, truer words were never spoken ‘ everyone needs a sports car’ and Toyota knocked it out of the park. Those three additions I almost can’t believe they actually did that.🐧🐧🐧👍

[@RagShop1]

With a lot of help from Subaru, naturally.

[@eduardopekurned1505]

People with sports car need them to make up for what they lacking. Is what the saying is

[@Quatft]

600lbs of dog food = 20 30lb bags. Each approx. .75ft^3. 8 in the trunk with room to spare. 4 on the floor of the backseat. 4 on each side of the back seat. Still have room for a passenger and a day bag for each person, no problem.

[@michaelj7069]

@@eduardopekurned1505 No that's lifted trucks.

[@nn99nn99]

@@eduardopekurned1505 Eduardo rides the bus lol

[@JHartModelworks]

I have a 2017 86. I have 108,000 miles on it as I have daily driven it since i bought it new. I grocery shop for a family of 4 every two weeks. If the trunk on the newer 86 is about the same it is more than plenty.

[@stevef3521]

FA20 owner as well. 155k miles on the clock and still runs and drives great.

[@Austinomon]

I owned the previous generation. The only trunk difference is the opening is slightly smaller and there is no spare under the carpet. However the old spare from my 2017 fit like normal

[@reestyfarts]

My wife is from Japan. She doesn't like American mainstream tofu. She saw a kid in San Francisco in a Sylvia with the Japanese language "Fujiwara Tofu Shop" sticker and looked it up expecting a (far superior) local tofu shop. That's how we found Initial D.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

The other cool thing about the Trueno package is that all the parts like the breaks and shocks are designed to be swapped onto the the regular GR86. So if you are unlucky to get your hands on the outrageously marked up 860 Truenos, you can still get the performance. Love the Trueno blue of this one.

[@tinnedanger]

Just wait for a crashed one. 😉

[@graumail]

The real question: do they mount up to my 2013?

[@johnt.848]

I hope it doesn't break

[@leer.2137]

breaks...spelled correctly: b r a k e s - or, "I'm on a coffee break"

[@tinnedanger]

@@leer.2137 auto spell check does that.

[@johngidman4574]

Don't track it though. They have a oil feed problem in hard right turns. Oil pressure drops dramatically.

[@skeetermcswagger0U812]

And clockwise donuts will kill it quite quickly.

[@jamesballard6564]

Also the transmission is maxed out straight from the factory.

[@chrisss73841]

Yesterday Subaru officially stated that the engine is rated for road use only, and not the track. This is a cover up for the oil starvation/pickup issue. They made a great car but won't stand by their product or manufacturing standards.

[@stevef3521]

Are you referring to the oil pressure loss on hard right turns?

[@bitkeeper4lj]

@@stevef3521 yeah, watched that video a couple of days ago - right turns on high speed cause critical oil pressure drop in FA24 (I guess WRX is also affected).

[@4Kandlez]

They aren't wrong though, it is designed for road use. Have there been any examples of this happening to cars that haven't been on track

[@chrisss73841]

@@4Kandlez it's a sports car. We aren't talking about a Nissan Versa. People buy sports cars for track use.

[@4Kandlez]

@christobias5682 No they don't, the vast majority never see a track

[@lch3778]

Hi Sarah! Never been this early but I'm positive you did a great job.

[@FrankySilverFace]

I appreciate the way Sarah launched the car in the beans segment. I've seen you tubers dump the clutch at 5000rpm which is ridiculous.

[@craigcampbell8560]

I used to launch my Chevelle even higher than that, but it was a DRAG car that was built to be launched that hard too. Otherwise, dumping the clutch at 5,000 RPM will only smoke the tires and break drivetrain parts.

[@tails300]

Rumor has it that the next Gen might ditch Subaru in favor of the 1.6 3cylinder Turbo (and maybe an even more powerful hybrid with the same engine).

[@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyours]

That would be awesome, they need to ditch the subie motors

[@Barbwire710]

And also move to a toyota platform. That would be interesting

[@eugenux]

@@Barbwire710more weight and that's not interesting at all; also, it would be strange to find the same engine in gr corolla, gr yaris, future GR mr2, future GR celica and next gen GR86; in my opinion, some if the cars above will not see the green light; if the mr2 and celica get the approval into production, I fear the gr86 will skip a generation or two...or 20 years 😁🥲🙈

[@seb5945]

For next generation, they are gonna turn this into a battery SUV.

[@ShenmueAtheist]

The Subaru engine and the RTV issues are the only reason I haven't bought one of these yet. If the next gen goes with a Toyota engine, especially if it gets a factory turbo, I'll be the first in line to buy one.

[@jimadams6585]

I cosigned for a loan on a 2013 Sion FRS for my daughter .After having the car for a while I took over the payments from her. I kept the car as a daily driver for three years. The car was a fun little car to drive. The handling was great. My wife and I took it to Colorado on vacation. Driving thru the Rocky's was very fun. Took in up to Pikes peak it was awesome .The car was a blast to drive. I really enjoy watching Sarah's video's and driving impressions.

[@HansDelbruck53]

Probably a Scion, not a "Sion".

[@iskdude9922]

What about power loss at elevation?

[@umabdullah4696]

Bro this Toyota GR86 looks like if Supra MK5 and a Aston Martin had a baby

[@andysandiego3584]

I loved this review as the owner of a 2022 Limited automatic Subaru BRZ. The only interesting fact about these cars I would like to add to Sarah's review is these relatively low priced cars have the exotic feature of aluminum front fenders, hood, and top. I chose the BRZ over the GR86 because reviews indicated the BRZ is better for tracking a low lap time on a race course, whereas the GR86 is "more tossable" as in drifting.

[@Jay-sb2xs]

I love the new generation Of GR86 they look beautiful In that blue color ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@bsmirnov]

SACHS dampers and Brembo breaks will be a package for 2024 model year - no need to order limited Trueno edition (order availability in November, delivery next winter). Also, that package can be retrofitted to current GR86s, and I read somewhere, that that retrofitting will be offered at official dealerships.

[@jeremyb4493]

I have sachs on my old rav4 2gr v6.. really like them

[@johnt.848]

*brakes.

[@beaternocheater8472]

Order? Lol

[@markusnguyen2058]

I love the detail in all of your reviews! The little mechanical details and comparison are awesome for people who are looking to work/mod on these cars! Keep it up!

[@mekanickrew1932]

Ride The Lightning, what a great album.

[@bitkeeper4lj]

Cliff Burton forever! 🤘

[@mekanickrew1932]

@@bitkeeper4lj Cliff 'Em All

[@williamtahau38]

I liked That blue paint.but that orange paint scheme looks bloody mean.....very nice....

[@WrenchingOnCars]

YES!!! The seat bolster Test. The bolstering was excellent!

[@Jay-sb2xs]

The premium package is better with a 6 speed manual transmission

[@Rockmachine99]

OMG Sarah mentioned the Oil Filter location!!! /angels singing /harps playing

[@yosvi85]

So if you had to choose, would it be the Toyota or Subaru of the 86?!

[@todddembsky8321]

OMG, not only did I enjoy this video, it was extremely informative and we know for sure that the back seat is NOT Sarah -n- Tuned sized!!!🤩😍🤩😍😇😇😇

[@luatngo5408]

i love a women that can chirp 2nd

[@leer.2137]

~ thanx 4 the review - { I had a smile from beginning to finish } really helpful as I am just becoming familiar with this vehicle 🏁 now I just need to become familiar with your ratings chart

[@kayinhevel3322]

ㅎㅎ so~ fun😊

[@atheisthumanist1964]

So excited for mine to arrive! Put the deposit down on a "Raven" premium manual in May, hopefully it arrives by fall sometime. I haven't been this excited about a car in a long time. Excellent insights, as always, Sarah!

[@stevef3521]

Enjoy it!

[@josephsmith594]

Congratulations !

[@1800lo]

I put a deposit on one in November, still waiting :/ best of luck to you my friend. I too am stoked for it to arrive!!

[@richardjosephus6802]

I think they may have a major flaw in the engine. They are failing. It seems that on hard Right? turns, it loses oil pressure.

[@Diggz24]

I thought this car was only in Hatchback? Damn I really like the pedals in this car too! Look at her cute lil black ankle socks. 😎

[@stevenjames1138]

GR86 or BRZ? Toyota or Subaru? Which is better/more fun?

[@philiptong4978]

as it is from factory suspension setup, GR86 has less rear traction compared to BRZ, both suffer from engine issues: RTV flakes blocking oil pickup screen, momentarily oil pressure loss with right turn

[@waynejones5635]

Thanks for this review. The Toyota engineering is always impressive. And yes, everyone needs a sports car.

[@TroutWest]

WRONG. ****EVERYTHING**** needs a turbo

[@SarahnTuned]

Turbo your fish

[@sonalmalhotra07]

Great Job. I have to go off you tube. Watch too many car reviews and cannot afford them. Best wishes.

[@tomokokishi3066]

Not sure why they use that crappy radio. In Japan we have a whole lineup of a much better infotainment for the same price range.

[@michaelmancini5773]

I’ve been shopping sports cars, love the Z, but $53K, is more than I want spend, this GR86, is pretty sweet, not enamored of the dash though, gonna check out the 6 speed stick, great technical review Sarah, thank you

[@scaryperryx1050]

AWesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOYOTA'S ARE THE BEST CARS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jhenes82]

I bought the FR-S the first year it came out. I absolutely loved that car. Sold it during the pandemic, and eventually replaced it with a sensible, boring Accord hybrid EX-L. Being responsible sucks. :( Oh, and side note: I bought the Accord like 3 weeks before they released the GR-86. Had I waited, I would probably would've bought one xD

[@InuranusBrokoff]

Its been a while, but... MOAR PENGINS!

[@crankypipo]

I cant find the keichi tsuchiya itb mod vid anywhere😢 can you help link it?

[@garyworokevich2524]

Excellent lines, engineering and low price.

[@malikdigger4544]

Sarah u going have a family of Toyota sport car's in ur shop different era's

[@lukeclayton7578]

So if I’m hearing this right, toyota tuned this thing to get sideways easier than the BRZ. Cool.

[@motaz1975]

never was about the straight line, never will be.

[@SWells679]

The hand pointer twist at 1:13 was 100% professional, Sarah. Nicely done.

[@scottlowther7698]

Excellent as usual 😊

[@GP-fc7jv]

It comes down what you can afford

[@stevef3521]

First gen FA20 owner. 155k miles on the clock and it still puts a smile on my face when driving it.

[@Showmetheevidence-]

Miss mine! Sold due to a move… so now considering the new one!

[@mrporsche4236]

The 2.0 is the worst engine the 2.4 is the best engine its night and day no comparison

[@stevef3521]

@@mrporsche4236thank you for your input. 👍

[@stevef3521]

@@Showmetheevidence-Do it! They’re loads of fun!

[@saifk6188]

@@mrporsche4236 The data would disagree with you

[@wogurrla3152]

It’s funny how no one has any problem with this car’s exhaust, but so much hate on Mustang ecoboost, which actually sounds pretty much the same, if not much better

[@sumoschro]

Just got a trueno blue GR86 for my daily. Loving it so far! Thanks for the detailed review Sarah!

[@jerimiebrown351]

Bought one based on your review...totally worth it thanks for all your work.😊

[@BPGalvin]

So the big question is this or a supra CR???!???!?!?❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@stephenmoxley3004]

No truer words were spoken Sarah, when you said "everyone needs to own a sports car." Keep up the great work.

[@Ballacha]

8:10 the naturally aspirated version already has its engine mounted higher than it should be just to accomodate exhaust plumbing coming out of the bottom of the engine. i personally think the "low centre of gravity" advertisement these flat engine car manufacturers do is 80% marketing and 20% substance at best.

[@claudiomarangone614]

How do you know that? What are you comparing to? Have you driven this car? Have you driven other cars with engines that are in a flat configuration and similar exhaust packaging?

[@michaelsasso13]

Thanks for getting in the back seat. I have a MK3 Supra. Similar space in the back and I use it for small bags and emergency pickups. Major reason I dislike the MK5 is no back seat….and no Targa. GR86 looks fun to drive.

[@charlescaprez9203]

Excellent video. You are amazing Colonel Chip

[@chrisbennett814]

30k?...giving them away

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

Another great review and your knowledge of cars shows through. No one does car reviews better.

[@jaxacdc9554]

I am loving my new GR86. I ordered it after seeing your first review. It is definitely car enthusiasts driving. Thank you.

[@gmarks1559]

Those cars look awesome, too bad no dealers have any in stock, or want premium prices...

[@arobjavan9481]

Wow, finally a real review, technical and otherwise. So much great useful information. You are the best.

[@SteveRogers461]

I Love your videos!!! I think the only way they could improve this car is to make it a hatch back like the Celica and Supra...

[@stevenfarrall3942]

Thank you for publishing this at 23.00 hrs UK time.

[@MR3DDev]

I am turning my GR86 into a Trueno, just wrap the hood part in black.

[@zu_1455]

"ya know....🏁♥Takumi Style"

[@wrxpilot]

Your reviews are awesome Sarah. Definitely has the feel of a show that you’d see on NHK!

[@leftcoaster67]

It's amazing that Ford Mustang in the late 80's early 90's with a 5.0L V-8 got 225 hp. And some 30+ years later you can get a four cylinder that produces similar horsepower.

[@jdpruente]

Heck, you can get a turbo 3 cyl that gets 200hp with a 1.5L EcoBoost in a Fiesta ST.

[@allenshafer7666]

agreed, but I had a late 80s 5.0 Mustang. Nut sure they would feel the same. That thing would haul A$$

[@jaylee931]

but the v8's would produce more torque over a 4 cyl..i had a 91 5.0 & it would eat that car for lunch..too bad they didnt drop a 6 in it or something with more torque.

[@stevef3521]

@@jaylee931 sure, if you’re talking just in a straight line. Rarely, do I drive my 86 in a straight line. Not knocking Mustangs. After all, “Everyone needs a sports car.”

[@CACressida]

Or a 1.6 3 cyl corolla with 300hp

[@bitkeeper4lj]

I've been waiting for this review! Trueno package looks fantastic! I'm actually considering a GR86 Premium right now, versus base Golf GTI or base WRX, and GR86 is the most expensive option of them (and that's why I'm still thinking). Speaking of special editions, Toyota will be making special editions of their GR models every year. For 2023 they have 10th anniversary GR86 and A91 package for GR Supra. For 2024 they'll make 45th anniversary GR Supra (with adjustable rear spoiler nonetheless), GR86 Trueno edition, and GR Corolla Circuit Edition - all limited production.

[@kainatticus]

GR86 will be far cheaper in the long run (depending how long you keep it)

[@j.3854]

Get the GR86, eapecially if you value RWD driving dynamics. So so rare to get these days (and I dont consider 3600+ lb RWD Muscle cars in that category). If you ever had/loved a S2000, E36 M3, 350Z, E46 M3, FD RX7, etc, then youll love a GR86/BRZ. I love my 23 BRZ. Such a blast to drive for the money.

[@T5623QCOM]

GOSH I LOVE THE BOLSTERING TEST........🥰

[@RepyZep]

''Affordable to most of the masses", what "masses" have 30-50 grand just laying around?

[@carlosj9908]

😂😂😂😂

[@markcdeyoung3118]

😮The perfect amount of quick is just the way I like it baby 😎👍

[@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyours]

I want the 3cyl turbo in this car

[@wetbred6677]

I actually just ordered my GR86 Trueno🤠 Halo White Manual

[@VisualArticulation]

sarah -n- tuned i love Sasquatch merch Coming soon!!!! Keep up the awesome work!!!

[@rxvanz]

I used to own an 88 Toyota Corolla SR5 coup. It had the sporty flip up headlights and manual transmission. I don't see those anymore. Great review and as always Give It The Beans!😎

[@RocktCityTim]

Another wonderful car from the mind of Toyota. As for the sound system, that's what the engine and exhaust are for!. You have to get Charlie a lab coat!

[@varietasVeritas]

It's nice. But I would rather have a v6 super charged mr2 for the same price.

[@2loudspeakers]

A GReat video! ;-) Lovely car.

[@wigenite]

@5:25 the buttons are often misunderstoon, at least on the BRZ tapping the left button turns off traction control but leaves stability control on. You have to hold the button down for 3 seconds to turn off BOTH. Or just use the track button which turns both TSC & VSC down to minimums

[@davea2620]

As a fellow sasquatch, that's my first condition that has to be met! This generation feels more roomy than the last. And far more capable on the track.

[@brianhall23]

You are correct about the seats. I them in my Accord and my 200sx.

[@nornibres]

Jason Cammisa called this car a modern 944. High praise indeed.

[@fredbobberts5753]

In every dimension it is very similar to a 944, within a inch or so in height, width, and length and the wheelbase is within an inch and a half. It’s very similar to the sixteen valve 944S, with the big two differences that sixth gear and working air conditioning 😂

[@yungkidnf]

Somebody is going to be tearing up the streets of Gunma in one of these! 😁😁😁

[@bobdavis3357]

Thumbed you up. Great video.

[@kidd7359]

The cruise control knobber is the same on my 2008 scion. The XB is a sport wagon, that counts right??

[@dr_pari]

“Everyone needs a sports car” and naturally aspirated. Bring it on

[@joecutro7318]

Amazing what a great value this vehicle is. It's no small feat to satisfy an enthusiasts wallet and heartbeat! ❤️‍🔥❗️💗 Thanks, Sarah!! 🙏

[@ebutuoy8272]

What speed do you do for the brake test?

[@ramblerdave1339]

Ms. Sarah never answers that question, you must be new.

[@carlmaruyama6863]

I get a kick out your pointer.

[@davidbaron6647]

Sweet Nice

[@EddieRicks-i8v]

You don’t need to have big money to have fun in a modern sports car 😊

[@djbollinger]

Listening to Metallica will make any car go faster. 🤘

[@djbollinger]

Also, thanks for a great review! This car looks like so much fun.

[@jfan4reva]

The GR86 and BRZ are the Datsun 240Zs of the 2020's, Fast, affordable, sharp looking. (Let the shouting and acrimony begin....)

[@rayhardy9963]

You know your stuff! Be great to get you to Croatia to do the vlog with Rimac and the owner you both have great passion 😊

[@robertludwig4260]

great job sarah

[@gromit1971]

👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ianmcmillan1411]

I don't know why the manufacturers of Boxer engines don't use the dry sump system, to eliminate the problem of oil starvation during sustained cornering or drifting... just saying

[@mikemarquez1211]

Am sorry but these gr86 are just Subaru cars, in my opinion I just wish toyota would just stick to their own shit...lol.... Am a toyota freak and will never buy anything else

[@anthonylove6639]

I’m both a Cynophile as well as a ailurophile. I had for a time both growing up together at my home in Colorado. I have a 2017 86 with the 2.0L boxer 4. The best way to smooth out that hp and torque dip is to replace the stock exhaust header with a uneven exhaust header. It makes that wonderful sound and no dip that my butt dyno could perceive. Great vid! Hope to see more. 👍🏻