YouTube’s discrimination problem

[@isabelaquintero1340]

Hello! In this piece we wanted to look at the creator experience for one particular community, both in operating a channel and connecting with the people who follow them. The concerns Ash and Grace bring up around harassment, navigating KZbin’s guidelines, algorithms, and monetization are not exclusive to LGBT+ creators. We look forward to continuing the conversation in the comments and in future videos. Thanks for watching.

[@Calebr34]

Now do one on the conservative creators getting completely restricted. But that doesn't fit your narrative😂 Instead, the people Google are overwhelmingly trying to support. Laughable you tried to make it seem like KZbin is bias against LGBTQ. They literally have videos of employees admitting it. How stupid to you think viewers are?

[@Calebr34]

@Timetraveler ONE couldn't have said it better.

[@guest_informant]

@@Calebr34 Evidence? KZbin's alleged discrimination seems fairly, er, indiscriminate. These kids are on the receiving end. Steven Crowder is on the receiving end. Phil de Franco is on the receiving end. Pretty much everyone is on the receiving end. It'd be interesting to see if anyone's collecting actual evidence (not cherry-picked, confirmation biased, I'm-the-real-victim-here, anecdotal non-evidence). Which is where I kind of hoped this video would eventually land. It didn't.

[@hdezoo]

You mentioned in this comment that this is not exclusive just to the LGBTQ community, but I don't recall you saying it anywhere in this video. In fact, gun channels were the first to face these types of issues years and years ago. Conservative channels were also targeted more so than KZbin channels that were left leaning. Lately, it has been the entirety of KZbin who is been experiencing this issue. I'm still not understanding how the LGBTQ community has been harmed by the KZbin algorithm more than gun channels, conservative channels, or any KZbin channel that faces these problems.

[@Slavishcarp]

I simply think you made the video too LGBTQ focused when it is an issue that affects the whole community, what puzzles me is why KZbin is going down the path it is, if it is to be friendly to advertisers just make it so advertisers can exclude channels that they specifically don't like and to not restrict revenue at all. The only type of filtering that should take place on the platform should be to get rid of illicit and illegal content

[@MbuRasmeni]

I deadass thought this was a Vice video 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@mxchic05]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@waskozoids]

the message.

[@RmartTv]

Someone get Lou back in here.

[@claydog6422]

Ruben Martinez true

[@maralorca6518]

Where's Lou?

[@smokinace926]

If I’m searching for trans stuff, then it should be recommended to me. If I’ve never shown interest in trans stuff, then I don’t wanna see it. It’s really that simple...

[@williehawaii9967]

Bigot

[@BeeepBo0op]

Eh, this video wasn't bad, but it just scratched the surface of the deeper mechanism at play here. Which is that nobody knows how to sort through data at such vast scales like YT has to, especially if things like context come into play. The focus should be on forcing KZbin to create more robust systems for human correction when the algorithm fails, not on blaming the algorithm for failing to understand complex context-dependent issues such as sexuality.

[@ashleynaomi3781]

So In youtube's eyes anyone can say whatever they want against a trans person I've had horrible things said to me but if you stick up for yourself you get kicked off wtf ever!

[@ghosttoast8326]

When transgender people talk about life-changing surgery or anything involving hormonal "treatment" because they are the "wrong" sex, then yes, that deserves to be demonetized. It should not be promoted to the youth. The youth are very persuadable and what they see as popular, they will want to do, just for the reason of it being a talking point. That is not what the youth should be seeing, not hyper-popular videos about how it's wrong to be straight, wrong to be cis, etc. Or even on the less extreme end, they should not see people getting praised for switching their sex, because at the end of the day, that is what they see. People, getting praised, being put on a pedestal, for the simple, yet life-changing act, of something like surgery or hormonal "treatment".

[@ghosttoast8326]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 I... what is that supposed to even mean?

[@ghosttoast8326]

@@neilt1352 How does yikes convey emotions? Is it surprise, disdain, or something else?

[@ghosttoast8326]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 I mean, if you just have nothing logical to say, you can just say it. Or if it's "not worth your time" because it's hard for you to support what you believe in, then maybe your opinion really doesn't matter. I mean that works too

[@MentholKratom]

Oh no. Beme is becoming vice

[@MT-mk6qz]

I know right! Unsubscribed

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

You’re one of 7 comments saying the exact same thing. Make your own videos maybe? Nobody’s making you watch... 🤷🏻‍♀️ Also, Vice is secretly run by conservatives and the fact that you don’t know that makes me lol

[@I.Prokopto]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 Well, Vice was founded by people who are presently right-wing (ie. Gavin Mcinnes, though he was more left when he ran the company), but I'm not sure that's the case with Vice anymore. I'm willing to be proved wrong, though.

[@J-Gx]

It was going to happen

[@calebjiang4056]

@@MT-mk6qz Need a safe space?

[@1KeyJee]

Hey it's Loe, and here's the thing. Beme is Vice now

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

M H S How original...you were like the 4th person to comment that

[@1KeyJee]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 Great then, what's that to you?

[@wondliii9046]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 must be pretty true if everyone agrees then

[@iSlandeRon]

Its LOU. Not Lue

[@mamatmag]

Hey, it's Lou. And here's the thing, Vice started out a good thing. Till it was infiltrated by extreme Whack-A-Moles. Beme is following the same trail.

[@ImprovementisGrowth]

I hope you do a post on KZbin’s discrimination about certain black channels that speak about issues important to the community. KZbin is banding lots of channels that have bad language, conservative views , and the LGBTQ community. These channels do not fit they’re new mission to become Disney -like.

[@BasharZapen]

I would say KZbin can definitely work on the searchability issue, let's say if you search for specific trans terms you'd get notified that results have been restricted and you can unlock those results with a button or procedure. That aside, perhaps this is more of a supply and demand issue than a discrimination issue? For instance, I can't imagine a stamps collection and reviews channel being recommended or being that popular on KZbin; it's catering for a super niche demographic. Same goes for trans specific channels.

[@cubeofcheese5574]

They weren't talking about having low ranking in the search results, they were talking about being removed from the search results entirely.

[@BasharZapen]

@@cubeofcheese5574 Hence why I suggested a button to remove that search result restriction...

[@noahmospan5660]

1. Their content is very mature. These kind of topics shouldn’t be something kids come across, these conversations need to be done in person. It is not a censorship because of disagreement on content, but rather a restricting of nature content like all others they deem so. It’s not your decision to say if it’s mature or not. 2. The whole comment on Carlos Maza is very short sited, do a bit of research and see how so extremely out of context the whole premise was based on. Including that reduces the credibility of your argument here. 3. Plain and simple this is victim culture and looking any which way to find someone to blame, to attract sympathy and build an image of oppression against themselves. In reality most all creators on KZbin are hurting because of the extremely complex situation KZbin is in. It’s easy to blame them but they have so much more on their plate in regards to all this than you can even comprehend. I’ll end by saying this, please do not adopt the form of “journalism” that channels like Vox employ. I’m not saying that topics you report on aren’t valid, but the manner in which you do so, the position you take, and the very obvious agenda you play to will hurt any form of meaningful discussion in the future. Keep it fair, look at both sides, and examine your agendas/biases. Unless of course that is your purpose, in which case please take the time and disclose it so we don’t have to read between the lines. You’ve been doing great work over there at Beme team, I’ve been here since the beginning, but please re-examine what it is that you’re doing and the direction you’re heading.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Noah Mospan Great, the guy who can’t construct a sentence properly is suddenly a media critic 🙄

[@wilsonmura5930]

Truth right there

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

1. Trans kids exist. They deserve to know what's going on and have examples of what they're gonna go through. Kids get sex education when they're 10 if the school is good, so they should be able to handle the subjects if they're handled maturely. 2. What the fuck context does calling a guy a "lisping queer" and saying he can't reserve himself to "just one dick" isn't homophobic harassment. You do your research. 3. They are literally the victims of constant murder and exclusion from families. Right wingers bitching about Steven Crowder's homophobic bullshit getting demonitised is way closer to victim culture than shining a light on genuine life threatening oppression. As for your comment about their journalism, I don't know how they could be any more neutral on this. You either accept that trans people are legitimate and deserve help, or you don't. This is a story that needs to be covered and attempting to be neutral would just be sugar coating the issue or ignoring the problem.

[@Bearsfan131]

Kirsten S. I love how you have to make a comment on every comment that offends you. Quite amusing😂

[@noahmospan5660]

Kirsten S. I am sorry, English is not my first language. I do my best.

[@Tardvark]

But why do they all look exactly like I thought they'd look?

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

ZQD Because you don’t live under a rock? Grow up

[@Tardvark]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 make me

[@mrtimdlee]

how is that relevant?

[@Tardvark]

@@mrtimdlee come down. They look good and I ain't complaining. Are you people trying to be offended?

[@mrtimdlee]

@@Tardvark "You people"? You're making a lot of poorly crafted assumptions that are inaccurate. I'm proud that they are talking about something important that is disproportionately affecting young people and those who identify as trans/non-bionary. These conversations are great to see and they should be supported, not criticized based on looks.

[@OvidiusPrime]

Where are the parents of these trans kids? These are sensitive issues which should be dealt with parents or family rather than strangers on the internet. Specially ones that are out to profit.

[@wilfredpeake9987]

you have to realize that a huge portion of the world population is ignorant on many things and if a parent cant directly relate to a child they cant provide proper guidance especially when it comes to issues about sexuality i had no idea about sexual fact until after i left my country at 19

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Ash has a video on their channel about coming out as trans to their mom. It’s really sweet and it might help you get past some of these messy biases you’ve picked up and see them as a real human person just living their best life 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@artski09]

trans kids are like vegan cats we know who is in control

[@wilfredpeake9987]

@@artski09 please dont speak unless give a good case for ur point and actually research ur stuff and not just say ur feelings facts really dont care

[@artski09]

@@wilfredpeake9987 a good parent puts a swift end to this degeneracy while others egg them on so they can be special

[@Jensen-C]

Lou is gone for one day and the channel turns to cnn

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

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[@isabelfernandez7668]

How so

[@fedebenavides]

honestly interesting video, up until the point where Ash talks about the commentary videos. If the commentary and their audiences causes them insecurities its not anyone's problem but theirs. There should be free speech and different opinions and commentaries are part of that. If they dont like their videos being demonetized then they shouldn't complain about other communities and videos on youtube.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

fedebenavides That’s a fair point, actually. I interpreted what they said more like it gave them insecurities but the representation was more important than their feelings, but who knows. I wish this had been much longer, then maybe they could have gone into more nuance or talked about other groups having similar issues with being demonetized.

[@DrEarbuds]

No mention of Logan Paul when he caused the problem for all small creators .

[@gitarplayer229]

What about conservative voices that are actually being silenced?

[@i2Dog]

Morgan cause theyre NOT

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Make your own damn video, Morgan 🤷🏻‍♀️ Not everything is made for you...that’s life, buddy.

[@transquelaag]

You do realize that you can make vídeos in different topics?

[@Fals3Agent]

being silenced how?

[@hdezoo]

For real.

[@trstmeimadctr]

It doesn't seem healthy to make your sexuality such a severe part of your identity. I'm not part of the "straight community". I'm just a straight person and I almost never think about it.

[@RBuckminsterFuller]

That seems pretty ignorant. You don't think about it because you don't have to. You're "normal". You're the majority. You don't have to take shit from anyone because of who you're attracted to. Try putting yourself in their shoes. It's called empathy.

[@galwww]

the "straight community" isn't hunted down and murdered every year. the "straight community" isn't illegal or hated in many parts of the world.

[@Mokkel73]

It´s called "Identity politics" and it used to be the next big thing.

[@artski09]

they are shallow and hollow people so they have everything revolve around something they are allegedly born with pretty pitiful

[@trstmeimadctr]

@@RBuckminsterFuller How does labeling your self as different and forming a separate community help to remove the stigma of now being "normal" so that you can move forward in society?

[@peterlord7349]

Does this mean that Beme now has to do a video on the other groups that are being discriminated against on KZbin? (e.g. Christians, conservatives, etc)

[@avocademy]

Creators: KZbin doesn't pay us! Also creators: We rely on KZbin as a source of income.

[@tdadp]

Daru Hashida that the problem right this you rely on KZbin & nowhere dose it say they have to pay you your not employee the argument can be said about the gig economy as a hole their is no stability. Let me ask you this are these KZbin thinking about retirement & 401k or god for bid they get sick do they have health insurance or disability insurance or better yet a rainy day fund when they make no money on their videos .

[@robinpaydon7139]

Anyone who relies on KZbin to pay their bills is not paying attention. Imo KZbin was more fun, more creative b4 they started paying KZbinrs but what do I know that could just be a longing for "The Good Old Days"

[@kakashigaiden111]

Whats your point? They rely on it and because of them being LGBQT they have a high chance of having that money suddenly being snatched away. Its not trans ppl begging for money theyre making content like everyone else.

[@robinpaydon7139]

@@kakashigaiden111 it has nothing to do with them being lgbtq KZbin is doing it to a multitude of creators for a multitude of reasons. My point is once KZbin threw the lure of easy money out there it gave them a lot of leverage over the creators that they didn't have before. Instead of KZbin just being an online platform they became the creators employer The content became more mainstream and less creative because people were creating content in order to get paid and not for the love of it.

[@BearsThatCare]

It's called poverty

[@mattahmann]

How about conservative discrimination on KZbin?

[@sh202-r8v]

Hey it's Loe, Here's the thing *Beme is owned by CNN*

[@PatrickOliveras]

👏Conservative 👏Safe 👏Space 👏Needed 👏

[@MythicalRedFox]

not a thing lol. it's all in your head. Conservative media thrives on KZbin.

[@mattahmann]

@@MythicalRedFox that's fake news. Just look at Steven Crowder, Mark Dice, PragerU, and Alex Jones. Many many more. Not in anyone's head.

[@ac2.024]

Mate , you can find out about conservative beliefs on other media sites as well It's really hard to find anything like what you find on KZbin when it comes to the LGBT community Teens that might think they're gay or trans or whatever might actually need to see this , just to get some info of what to do , or maybe to have someone to relate to Plus idk about PragerU , I get their videos in my recommendation feed all the time and they're also monetised , I don't know about the others tho

[@wowbeit]

Carlos Maza is an "activist" who called for assault by milkshakes to people who disagree with him. And the videos "attacking" him from Crowder were debunking the videos he put up on Vox. They were not attacking him based on his identity. And the demonetization is a KZbin problem, not exclusive to the trans community.

[@Fals3Agent]

you also probably think the shirt says figs lmao

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

EB They never said it was exclusive to the trans community. Watch again and pay attention this time 😊

[@wowbeit]

@@Fals3Agent I don't agree with Crowder. I find his comments to be distasteful and it doesn't add anything to the conversation. But he should be allowed to say it without Carlos Maza lying about it.

[@Fals3Agent]

@@wowbeit and isn't he still allowed to do that?

[@wowbeit]

@@Fals3Agent you are right. He is, but Carlos Maza and his supporters were calling for him to be removed from the platform. They were not happy when he was demonetized. They were pushing for censorship.

[@PKAnon]

There is tremendous censorship on KZbin right now. By focusing on minor repercussions to a niche community, this video fails to capture both the scope and severity of the problem.

[@MythicalRedFox]

What a selfish attitude to have.

[@MatanColl]

Why not talk about political discrimination on KZbin

[@rymiledge893]

i dont know why not talk about racial discrimination? let a video discuss the topic they want man.

[@CLYZRbby]

Nah this aint telling the other half the story, both right and left are getting demonetized and their videos age restricted. Both parties want to watch the content they like and stray away from the other sides videos. I see that constant complaining from both started this full on BS stuff from youtube. Then suddenly big corporations started giving youtube the ad money and then YT was like "ohh shieet, pour the money and tell us what to do". Literally the best would be go back where anyone could post again without any reprocations (like copyright laws, guideline breakings, etc ).

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Trans representation is a human issue. It’s only political because people like you choose to make it that way by trying to deny them representation and rights. It won’t work, though, you’ll see 😘

[@CLYZRbby]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 I belive it is human issue, im not making it political. Im just using phrases "left" and "right" because its easier to put different viewers into those categories. Also im foreign and please do excuse if i have misspelled some words or if my message did not give the message it was meant to give

[@RedFenceAnime]

Cool vid, horrible title. It's that advertisers that don't want to put their ads on the content. Not KZbin deciding they won't support you. It's the same for those demeaning reaction channels, they don't get ads either. But because they label their content as commentary, instead of LGBT+, they don't get instantly flagged. With all the scaremongering from Vox, WSJ & such the advertisers want to micromanage what they put their brand next to. As a result everything that's even remotely divisive is losing ads, and thus monetization. KZbin isn't against you, the advertisers are.

[@jackyzhu9761]

KZbin is with the advertisers. Stupid.

[@GalacticJax]

I thought you were going to discuss KZbin's discrimination against Conservative channels, based on the title and very recent "#VoxAdpocalypse". Would've been more interesting and current since creators' WHOLE channels are being demonetized even if they did not violate ANY community guidelines. You guys should check out this topic!

[@Ivanmaradonaaa]

Nazis should not have a voice

[@GalacticJax]

@@Ivanmaradonaaa who said anything about Nazis

[@Ivanmaradonaaa]

@@GalacticJax Conservatives are pretty much modern Nazis

[@GalacticJax]

​@@Ivanmaradonaaa That's a very bold statement. What makes all conservatives Nazis?

[@8bitcoffee364]

@@Ivanmaradonaaa You do get that most of the worlds Conservatives are POC right? Or are you just an ignorant american.

[@ennuiii]

5:35 dope ass sample from a kota the friend song... birdie look it up yall

[@AshleyShafty]

Thoroughly convinced Kristen S. has absolutely no life

[@ZeeshanMuhammadX]

They just want to feel safe, be themselves and have a social life. It's not too much to ask of us to respect that. I'm glad KZbin is helping these folks and opening up a chance for everyone to meet like-minded folks.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Zeeshan Muhammad Yep 💙💙

[@artski09]

respect is earn degeneracy is not

[@hdezoo]

So it begins. Beme is gone friends. Fair and honest reporting has left the building.

[@simaofilipe8682]

Pls show some examples of what videos they are at talking about, and I am not just saying this for this particular situation, in any future videos you make pls try to show examples or something.

[@johnb4306]

Simão Filipe they don’t have examples, what they call harassment is someone else questioning their ideologies. Any criticism is harassment, any jokes are harassment. It’s free speech for them and it is hate speech when someone disagrees. They are the puritans now They are what we made fun of in the 90s and 00s they became the religious right they always hated

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

The amount of dislikes on this is disgusting. This is a completely innocuous video. I bet people just saw trans people in the first few seconds, hit dislike and ran away

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

James Royce-Dawson Yup. Broflakes are like that 🤷🏻‍♀️

Video: KZbin restricts most videos with sexual topics (including education and sexual orientation and some vlogs). Title: KZbin HATES CERTAIN MINORITIES!

[@craighartanagel858]

What’s has Beme become..... this is sad but expected since CNN buy out. Nene is basically Vox now 💔

[@hegyeske1]

What are you talking about??? One of the most viral youtuber is a guy who is doing make-up tutorials to look like Beyonce and shit

[@linedanzer4302]

KZbin regularly disallows my comments. I take screenshots EVERY time hoping to use them as evidence some day.

[@maddier.3891]

wow the like/dislike ratio is very telling :-(

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

A bunch of immature tools disliked 🙄

[@scottd4306]

No mention of Logan Paul and causing discrimination on all smaller creators for monetization

[@GregorPQ]

If your worldview can't be challenged, maybe your worldview is wrong. Grow up.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

GregorPQ 💙💙💙

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Nev T What? No. He means if you’re so stuck in your way of thinking (aka worldview) and refuse to entertain the notion that you might not be 100% correct and seek out more diverse knowledge, then you’ll never get far enough outside of your comfort zone to expand your worldview and grow intellectually and emotionally as a human. Make sense?

[@danyala.1659]

You have to think about this from KZbin's perspective too. Over 300 hours of video is uploaded to KZbin every minute, it is extremely difficult to process through all of these. KZbin has to work under both government pressure and pressure from the community. This community includes every age, religion, ethnicity, culture, perspective, etc. KZbin has to find the middle group between billions of people, and that middle ground requires there to be compromises made.

[@Ivanmaradonaaa]

Yeah poor multi billion dollar company that spy on you

[@J-Gx]

How did Philip Bloom get interviewed about this?

[@psychopax2685]

So they are mad that people who give critic on their videos can still get to upload to a wide audience. But when KZbin fixes the problem of showing vile and unneeded content that they go after their mature rated content? You can't just set rules for one group of people and not another!

[@1KeyJee]

There's a lot of dislikes on this one right here

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

M H S A lot of sad, insecure broflakes who secretly resent themselves. Here’s hoping they find happiness and contentment with themselves one day. ✌🏻

[@MT-mk6qz]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 ....or maybe we are just tired of bad journalism that ignores the truth and tries to shove an ideology down your throat.

[@1KeyJee]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 I'll just ignore your baseless assumption about me

[@Jebusmike3]

You guys are getting good; I couldn't tell if Lou was in this one just by looking at the thumbnail, so I clicked. *slow claps*

[@WangleLine]

Thanks for speaking up about this

[@Cookies205]

Attempts to highlight KZbin algorithm failures and deficiencies... .... takes a subatomic microscope to the problem

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Cookies205 Nope.

[@Laurarat]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 Nope

[@duckmasterflex]

That's the whole point, its how a widespread issue affects a community like this.

[@johndaly2816]

James Charles, Jeffree star, Ryland Adams, Ru Paul ,the Try guys, are all the LGBT youtubers u see in trending almost everyday. Compared that to Straight white dude like pewdipie, JackSceptic eye, The pauls, Joe Rogan, or steven crowder, Never seen them on trending, maybe once every 4 months max, despite them having equal or even more views than the LGBT creators. And now you're telling me youtube has biased against LGBT creators?

[@JedEdelstein]

Beme is Vice now, full of a leftist political view

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

Accepting trans people shouldn't be a political view

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

You’re the 5th person to comment that...sooooo original 🙄

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Timetraveler ONE LMAO if you think that’s critical thinking, I’m not sure there’s any hope for you 😂

[@jackyzhu9761]

KZbin doesn't distinguish between what's good and what's bad. Look at the comments. The bad float, while the good stays down. Look at the videos. Demonetized for no good reason.

[@JC-ku5tg]

I never understood how or why anyone should care about someone else’s sexuality. Why do these people feel like they have to share such a personal thing about themselves with everyone . Its like me making a video about my 2 inch stub and how some ppl wont have sex with me because of it. Expecting everyone to like you is wrong. Some like spicy food some just don’t and thats there right. Am I wrong? And if so how?

[@wilfredpeake9987]

you have to realize youtube is a place to share content and many people who start it really dont expect to get rich off it, its a venting slash coping mechanism that allows people to learn about them selves and others as to give them selves a better understanding about the world and about ur 2 incher remember forplay helps out alot

[@MomoTv24]

Ever heard of BIOLOGY?

[@MomoTv24]

We are not the only species on the planet.Name one other species that has transgender folks.Because its not natural.there are only two sexes in all the species of the planet.MALE AND FEMALE.

[@wilfredpeake9987]

@@MomoTv24 what about intersex people or hermaphrodites they have both male and female parts so what are they im assuming u never studied bio and are only spouting things because u really dont try to understand the world

[@wilfredpeake9987]

@@neilt1352 honestly not an expert on the matter but from what i gather the parts dont work as well as regular definition of male/female so both i think again u got to ask an expert just use it as an example because many intersex people have said they despise doctors for altering their body without consent so they can view themselves however they want in my oppinion

[@astroineum]

I feel like there is no reason for me to be born because this hole universe can't stand me but I have had to call the suicide hot line twice so for because I feel so hated by the world

[@johnneijzen]

I only subbed to this channel for Lou because of information and facts about is happening in the world. I did not sub to channel for this stuff like this because youtube is already full this stuff about problems that LGBT+ faces and discrimination and youtube policy.

[@kobaltkode]

I don't get the false equivalence in these comments. Beme didn't make a video about the left or the right. They made a video about KZbin policy and how it discriminates members of the LGBTQ+ community. Blocking and gating them, sends a statement that their content isn't normative enough to be viewed by the young. It is more than a little messed up when that content is simply their lives and perspectives. A good question to ask would be why KZbin enacts their policy this way. It is obvious that they are a company and that their goal is to make as much money as possible while appearing as ethical as possible. What interests are served by age restricting gay and trans content?

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

kobaltkode Sadly, these bros aren’t here to have a constructive discussion. They’re here to troll, but dislike, and click away. Sadly, this means they never learn or grow, they just stay sad and small-minded 😭

[@oscarhuerta1620]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 Ironic you even say that, cause you basically just described yourself in this whole video's comment section. Lol.

[@kevin4115]

There was a whole controversy about LGBTQ content being age-restricted (leading to not being shown on search results) and demonetised, right? I can see why this video is warranted if only for documentation. Plus trans acceptance is still very low, so there's a lot of harrassment in comments and such. Calling it 'KZbin's discrimination problem' feels pretty clickbaity and not entirely true, but it's not something no one cares about

[@jackyzhu9761]

oops, well hey, it is a discrimination problem, so it makes some sense.

[@MVDMable]

Nice! Now do conservative video's suppression!😁😁

[@NateFord]

KZbin has helped fuel right-wing extremism. There's no suppression of conservative videos. Political videos from all independent creators got hit after the adpocalypse. Conservatives just throw a bigger hissy fit over it.

[@hdezoo]

Nate Ford I don't think that's supported by the numbers though. This may also be a KZbin problem in general. All creators are experiencing demonetization, but conservatives specifically are having more videos that left leaning channels be restricted on KZbin.

[@NateFord]

@@hdezoo I'd really like to see the numbers on that. Also, there are a lot of racists and fascists that call themselves "conservatives". They're not being demonetized for conservatism.

[@claydog6422]

They are owned by CNN. The channel that said the word raciest about trump 11000+ times yesterday AM

[@NateFord]

@@claydog6422 Calling a spade a spade is not being biased. It's reporting the news.

[@stefankoelsch788]

Do you know what? We don’t care.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Who’s making you watch, Stefan? There are a lot of other videos out there, mate. Maybe some of them will appeal to your fragile, insecure sense of masculinity 😂

[@transquelaag]

Some people do you brainlet

[@LazarusSlade]

Show of hands: Who tought, before clicking on this video it was going to be about racial racism!? Also, my goodness, look at that club house! So many shades of white! Inclusion at its finest!

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

AC They live in the Midwest...they can’t just change the people near enough to come over to make it more inclusive. Stop searching for thing to pretend to be offended by, mate. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@RS28_Sarmat]

Aah shit ! Here we go again...

[@terryflautses7421]

This was an excellent video, thanks BEME :)

[@rok3895]

Their wife... I thought this was a polygamy video 😂😂😂

[@justine_chang39]

Bye bye, Beme.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Justine Chang Lee Hau LMAO, so triggered 😂 Why though??

[@transquelaag]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 do LGBTQ+ people get you that offended?

[@justine_chang39]

@@transquelaag who are you replying to?

[@brrrrruce]

Why wouldn’t they interview Contra instead?

[@TheEpicguy42]

I only subbed to this channel for Lou.

[@claydog6422]

Jessie_G he will be back soon

[@magtak]

Both stunning AND brave. Who would've thought.

[@markoboychuk]

Not sure if this comment is a joke or not...

[@luisclovis09]

Yikes...

[@LucGendrot]

Holy smokes y'all, Beme makes 1 out of their 175 videos about a topic that doesn't personally resonate with or impact you or your favorite creators and suddenly everyone's up in arms. This topic isn't a zero sum game, guys. This issue can impact LGBTQ+ folks AND others, and the fact that BEME has decided to highlight one subsection of those affected instead of your preferred genre of content is such a non-issue. Go watch one of the other 174 videos on this channel--or one of the 9,000,000 other videos on this topic in the vlogosphere--if this one isn't interesting to you. Or, better yet, learn to accept that BEME isn't making videos for YOU specifically and just...move on?

[@D1cko888]

I’ll say the same thing people say to any other group that is getting hammered by KZbin’s rules - it’s KZbin’s sandpit, if you want to play with their toys, you have to play by their rules no matter how unfair you think they are.

[@patcoston]

1:01 it's hilarious that the phrase "on accident" started as a cartoon character speaking wrong, but little kids didn't get the joke, and picked it up as normal, and now it's become the standard. It's a good simplification since you can say "on purpose" and "on accident", rather than "by accident", as older people will say.

[@robertr7278]

Thanks for another great and informative video. I've been concerned about LGBTQ creaters on KZbin after hearing about their challenges on the KZbin platform. This video talks about these challenges in a very accessable way. 👏👏

[@cristobalbrown-salinas9548]

So tired of this “trans” agenda being stuffed down my throat, your sexuality/gender is YOUR business why must it impede on my everyday life, then when I try to speak on why I feel this type of content is being fed to our youth I’m a “bigot” or a “homophob” gtfo I don’t run around making unwarranted statements to the world about how Im a heterosexual male! I just mind my business and live my life so should you! 😡👎🏽

[@LI-pm3mh]

The voice of the woman in the beginning makes my ears bleed

[@dojomojo5085]

Maybe mute the volume then

[@avsterbone]

You didn’t need to make this video

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

avsterbone I know, but wasn’t it great they did it anyway? 😊

[@astroineum]

Nobody is like me so that is why I don't get big on youtube and is why I should get big on youtube because I stand out from the crowed by me being so different but nobody can stand me on the internet that is why I will never get big on youtube

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

I’m obsessed with Ash and Grace. I’ve learned so much from Ash’s channel and they are both just such genuinely beautiful spirits 💙

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Bill Pretty Hmm I’ve never heard of anyone doing that, but I’m pretty sure they’re using their platform for LGBTQ+ support, so I don’t think it would be very on-brand for them to do your idea. Maybe you could make that video! If you do, I promise I won’t troll you and say rude, ignorant things about stuff I don’t understand 😊

[@jeffbradley7266]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 Gay

[@thebemitroll10]

I dont hate on LGTB+ but this videos has some really bad examples. Like the commentary thing with the dude in the example having 4.6k subs, like thats no big issue. And the thing with Steven Crowder whom did not spead any form of hate (also he is a comedian)

[@thebemitroll10]

Also its really clear that this video was really bad because you are now loosing subs... hope you guys are learning from this because i you are really good usually.

[@jokubas3391]

meanwhile youtube: yay guys it is pride month we love you trans ppl.

[@RoloTomase]

Well join the club the 2A comunnity has had the same problem for a few years now

[@jasnmaf]

Hi may I ask what the 2A community is?

[@RoloTomase]

jasnmaf , well it’s the Second amendment of the United States of America’s Constitution which states that our ability to own firearms shall not be infringed.

[@hdezoo]

Maybe the videos should be restricted because if you convince an impressionable child who is not trans, into believing he or she is, they are in danger of committing suicide.

[@johnb4306]

Aww, you too Beme

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Triggered, John? ❄️

[@stevejobs7342]

Its very dangrous very very dangrous

[@wondashozen]

The chuds are going to be mad.

[@ArmyofOneandaHalf]

Oh my god, did any of you even watch the video? They never even mentioned Carlos Maza

[@CMCSS-to3to]

KZbin is restricting way more than just LGBT KZbinrs. Gamers, athletes, anyone who says anything slightly against what KZbin likes

[@qwmf05gcpt42]

Bye

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Subscribe to Tyler Cassidy & Pewds LMAO, so triggered 😂

[@transquelaag]

Need a safe space?

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️

[@johnalexander651]

While I agree with the contents of this video I feel as though BEME missed out on a huge opportunity to also investigate KZbin's discrimination problem by also examining its effects on conservative creators such as the Crowder show. A more indepth video on the root of the problem which is how KZbin's vague policies have stifled and worsened the ability for small creators to positively and intellectually connect with users.

[@MythicalRedFox]

lmao

[@CraftedEcho]

Pretty good vid, love the insecure comments tho ;)

[@destac03]

Stop with the identity politics leftist bs. Give us real news.

[@MadScientistsAreJustEngineers]

.... Why in the hell did you mention VOX and Crowder? I mostly agree with you that these videos shouldn't be age gated.... but with that VOX "journalist" taking months if not years of videos, failing to mention that a lot of them are being done as a comedy bit, then smashing them all together and expecting youtube to bend to your view of the story, then getting 'outraged when they actually do due diligence for once and decide not to? To be clear, Crowder is an insensitve prick, and I don't like him. That being said, I think he should be allowed to use the platform.

[@AliJardz]

OMG Ash Hardel and BEME. TWIST.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Ali Jardz YESSS I came here to say the same thing! They’re amazing.

[@fish9468]

You shouldn't even need a 'trans community' obviously it would help if people just accepted them (in an ideal world). Also, many people just think that forcing everyone to use language they aren't used to specially for you is plain weird. It's not 'discrimination' it's just pointing out someone who has the privilege and mindset to have a reason to be angry at someone for 'misgendering'. If you want a constructive talk, just reply and be nice I'm always looking to improve my views.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Thomas Fish Hmm. Other languages such as Swedish have a non-gender-specific pronouns, and I don’t think they have any issues. The way I look at it, it’s a very small effort on my part just to call someone what they want to be called. Like, whether it’s their race/gender/whatever I’d rather them just say “call me this” and I’ll say “okay” and then we just go along with our lives, you know? It doesn’t have to be a big deal, and most trans people I know don’t get easily offended - they’re generally happy to briefly explain just about anything to you. They’re also generally happy to not bring it up or mention it at all, but since most people see them as “other” and want to mentally place them in a category because that’s what they’re used to and it’s human nature, and most trans people get that. They’re people too with their own views and biases, after all. We’re all just people trying to people IMHO. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@milestehmad117]

Ash is also a massive biggot but let's not talk about that

[@JonAlycia]

How so? (random person that has never seen her videos here..or *their* videos)

[@milestehmad117]

@@JonAlycia Your assuming that. I've watched many of their video and seen their social media. Incredible self righteous biggot

[@JonAlycia]

Uhm. What. Lol. I meant. IVE NEVER WATCHED THEIR VIDEOS. And I was asking you a question. Can’t be a bigot by asking to learn

[@sleepycowboy18]

*_yikes comments section_* Ah shit, here we go again

[@MrNotSelc]

I remember him/her getting roasted by Leafy

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

NomeCasuale *they

[@ImFatNarwhal]

Oof, gone forever.

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Bye, broflakes 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@calebjiang4056]

Need a safe space?

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️

[@rohitmishra670]

The topic and video was good and informative, but carlos maza seriously that guy was blackmailing youtube to start a voxadpocalypse

[@iSlandeRon]

A critical video about KZbin? Demonetized!!!

[@xLforLukex]

should be: youtubes discrimination problem with right wing content

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

Luke Mackenzie Make your own damn video then, Luke. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@xLforLukex]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 It would get about 3 views and no one would care, you need bigger channels to cover this

[@Fals3Agent]

what discrimination exactly

[@xLforLukex]

@@Fals3Agent just have a look at Steven crowder and the whole situation on him he got his videos demonitized for a stupid reason

[@Fals3Agent]

@@xLforLukex most political videos on youtube are demonetized, not just his. Also demonetization is not censorship

[@captainstardust2255]

Yet you didn't mention Blaire White.

[@Fals3Agent]

no contrapoints either. whaaaaaaa a clear conspiracy