Deucalion's accent is weird because he's played by Gideon Emery, it's a South African (English edition) accent with British overtop - iirc Emery lived here for a large part of his childhood, so his accent is wonky. (still haven't watched the show, but now I might, because Gideon Emery's goddamn voice has captivated me since Dragon Age 2 came out 😂)

Re: the criticisms you got on the 1st video. I think some people hear about camp and immediately think it means something sucks? But I think they don't understand camp or how people can genuinely enjoy it FOR being campy. Since camp is an ironic style there's an inherent internal tension that invites the viewer to laugh alongside the show. (And the disappearing camp is a large part of why my enjoyment of the show diminished in season 3.) So they think if you're pointing out the silliness it means you're just a jaded adult being unfair to a teen show. At least that's the way some of the anti-criticism comes off. I was shortly in the TW fandom when season 1-3A aired. I was a young adult at the time, mostly talking about the show with other 20-27 year olds, and the camp was the biggest draw for most of us young queer adults! That and the promise of queer characters which we didn't experience a lot in the teen media when we were growing up. So it was refreshing to have a (seemingly) queer-positive show. Not gonna get into the Teen Choice Awards clip, because I cringe so hard just thinking about it, but some of us got our hopes up that we were finally getting something that had been denied us in our formative years: main characters in a hit show being queer. Anyway. Going back to your first video. For the record, I don't think you were saying that anyone is wrong for enjoying TW. To me the recaps (I watched the show recaps first) had a very light touch in terms of criticism! You mostly pointed out that the show tackled big socially charged topics without making space for the emotional charge that they hold. Which is more than fair! And I really appreciated how you brought up Kali's visual treatment (the bare feet thing) because it was a BIG deal in my adult corner of the fandom. People were angry at Jeff for doing that to the only female character of colour. So yeah, I 100% agree that there's nothing wrong with engaging seriously with unserious media! Otherwise we could never talk about any comedy or kid's show. Which is ridiculous because there's a whole specialization in literature and media that's concerned with how to make good media for kids: how to approach serious topics based on the age group, what language to use, how the brain develops, how to introduce new ideas or words to expand their understanding, etc. Just because those cardboard picture books end up with the corners chewed off by toddlers doesn't mean the entire field shouldn't exist.

I think it makes sense if Scott's character improves after he's no longer paired with Allison. I didn't watch the show past 3A, but your explanation made sense to me. Also, I find it a little hilarious that people object to ships based on real life morals like age gaps or one tried to kill the other. It's fiction. It's not didactic! Where else are people supposed to explore dark or unconventional themes? Fiction is the safest and healthiest place to try those things. I'm also very tired of cops. So many cop shows on tv! And I get that there's an intrinsic narrative structure to solving a mystery or crime, but the teens solved whodunits on their own in the earlier seasons with only limited participation from the Sheriff, so it sucks to hear that TW got bloated with cops in the end. Bleh.

When season 2 first aired, I remember being so excited to see Michael Hogan show up. I’d loved him in the Battlestar Galactica reboot: another show with some very campy aspects thrown haphazardly into very serious topics. Honestly, “his username is Allison. His password is also Allison” is an absolute classic moment of camp. I remember people changing their tumblr’s title to that line because of how hilarious it was. For all that Scott wasn’t a compelling character, he gave use some amazing moments!

This video is a treasure

I think a lot of straight women that ship M/M it is about the equality of the ship. Later in life I did find out I was a transmasc person, but I've never been into the whole... self-insert. On that side note: There's a loooot of fanfics making one of the male characters hyper feminine, especially omegaverse fanfics, like why. Nothing wrong with hyper feminity, but why ship them at all then, when changing the base of the character. But ye, having two single males on a show, that has no love interest, that have great chemistry together and are pretty? Recipe for shipping.

Okay, so i watched the video and need to add somethings that i just want to. 1)Kabir was hurting more emotionally while fighting saurabh-khalid knowing that his khalid was dead than when the supposed heroine died. Hrithik is an amazing actor, so we know that was intentional. I also know that it was the big finale but there was more hurt than explosive anger radiating from him while he fought saurabh. 2)Kabir explicitly destroys saurabh-khalid's face telling him that "he didn't deserve that face" as he proceeded to do so. So no, whatever he was feeling was only for khalid and not saurabh. 3)Khalid was there only for the first 50 minutes of the film but he was still able to identify the fake Khalid (i will completely ignore the fact that kabir's a RAW agent with above avg iq, cause why not) 4)Saurabh's crazy villain persona kinda just radiated the "he's dead but you still want him while I'm left in the dust" or "i love fighting with you" cynical obsessive love interest vibe? Idk that's purely my perspective. Batman-Joker stuff?

Oh my god this video hit deep. I was one of the people who shipped Andrew and Jesse HARD, one of those who found solace in their enigmatic friendship. You made me tear up a little at that ending. It brought back so many memories of being that awkward, nerdy, internet - obsessed kid who thought they were so cool. I'd still love to think that apart of me will always that kid. Always.

another one was zooby zooby that ripped off brother louie by modern talking, the melody and everything

I definitely think you're onto something during your riffing about the appeal of a ship where neither character has a body like the reader's. Especially when dealing with gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia (or before someone realizes that's what those feelings were). It can come as a relief to read about characters and be entirely in that fictional world and ignore the physical for a while.

You should make a video about newtmas (from the maze runner)

This is a great video and analysis. I watched it all the way through without having sought it out in the first place. The only other dimension I would add is that in the beginning when the powers that be switched from playfully teasing at the ship textually and outside of the show from actively avoiding scenarios that might be determined ship material going forward was out of pure desire to avoid having a ship like this overpower the actual narrative of the show. Alas, seeing as they didn't even stick with that approach, they did a pretty bad job, or gave up on it after a season or two completely. Again, love the video! Very compelling.

"A little lost boyfriend with no one to love" 😂😂

Mike lobel looks like liberty

I love your videos. To me they are on the same level as Jenny Nicholson's videos. I have some video essays that I like to re-watch and your 13 reasons why videos are on it as well as Jenny Nicholson's Vampire Diaries video. The first and second videos in this series seem a lot more fun and escapism and this video feels a lot more thesis, especially at the beginning. I love that as well, but it felt like a big switch from what I expected. I love learning about facts and hearing you talk about the show in a deeper sense. But I also really love listening to you and other creators talk about their opinions of the show and what they liked and didn't like. ❤ When you said you were only going to discuss one non-canon ship I got sad, because I thought you meant Sterek and that means that you wouldn't be talking about Thiam. But then you started talking about Thiam and saving Sterek for its own video. 🎉 The first time I watched Teen Wolf season 6b wasn't out yet and I thought it was completed at 6a. So when I re-watched I for the first time and realized there were new episodes I hadn't watched I was really excited. And I also immediately loved Thiam. The elevator scene is basically them confessing their feelings for each other after constantly bickering and defending each other. The hot and cold of "I don't trust you, but I will protect you" is so good. My second favourite scene of theirs is when they have to make it seem like they're with a big group and Theo just pushes Liam and gets him angry. And then after Nolan and co. leave they argue about the fight and Theo says "You broke my nose two times, it healed and then you broke it again." And Liam punches him in the nose and goes "Three times". I just love them and the chemistry they have is so good. I love that you adressed the Thiam were supposed to kiss thing. I had heard about it a bunch of times, but I never knew the source of it. I am excited to watch the Sterek video. I also saw a comment where you said you were watching Grey's Anatomy. And I was wondering if you plan to make a video about it? It is a really long show with two really long spin-off's and you said that you wouldn't like to do a Supernatural video in part because it's a really long show. However, I love Grey's Anatomy and I love your videos about shows, especially the bits you do (the shirts, the clay make-up look, and the howling bits are a few that I can think of of the top of my head) and your opinions of the characters, the plots and the relationships. Thank you for this video. It is so good, as are your other videos. And I love the length of these videos too. ❤️

I remember this airing on a specific premium channel that my family didnt pay extra for but my best friend down the block had it in her home, so I only ever saw a few episodes at a time during sleepovers or what not. The desire that 34 yr old me needs to rewatch 15+ seasons that I was robbed of is astounding to me

Mr. Nice Guy is by far the best song in Degrassi history and i will die on this hill

Dude i am so familiar with the pain of having a Degrassi mouth and no Degrassi ears to force my Degrassi words upon

I have re-watched this video countless times and every single time. I am delightfully surprised by a Neil Breen reference. Thank you Jane for tapping into an that I feel I care about

Personally I found this film difficult to watch. I like Kristen Stewart but something was off about her the whole film. She doesn’t come across as natural at all and is over exaggerated every time she opens her mouth. Way too obvious that it’s an American actor playing a Brit.

The most delusional ship ever <3

that malia and kira dance scene made me realise things about myself when I was 13 even tho I'm well aware now it's a really bad scene...them and stiles were kinda my crushes in this show like it's crazy

i’m just 20mins into the video but it took me way too long to realize that Tori in the later seasons was the actress of Joey’s daughter Angie in the earlier seasons. Tori and Manny are also sisters irl which I thought was really interesting too

It's kinda crazy seeing this video now knowing that some of these actors were also former Disney Channel stars. Adam Torres, Craig Manning, Chantay Black, Damien Hayes, Jane Vaughn, Eli Goldsworthy

jaane Tu ya jaane na is such a good movie omfg im so happy you included it in this

I only watched the show after it aired, mainly because I’d heard so much about Sterek. I was absolutely shocked at how little there was to go on, and honestly, I didn’t ship them in the show at all, even as I voraciously devoured Sterek fic, of which there are so many brilliant works. I do agree that it’s a shame that the writers pulled back so hard, simply because, as you said, platonically they make a great “odd couple” comedy/drama duo.

I love how you are always wearing a shirt that is based or what you are talking about lmao

How you not gonna mention the OG Joshua Jackson

After watching this video, I RAN to read this fic. I haven't read fanfiction since I was in high school, which was the same time as when CIIMH came out. Even though I haven't read this before, it feels nostalgic to me! And I'm over here rolling my eyes and grinning like an idiot because I love it so much.

I'm one of the viewers that has only seen Next Class without seeing any othe Degrassi media or having any background knowledge of the show, and I was fine. I actually didn't know it was a direct sequel. I really enjoyed it as a stand alone

J'ai crié comme un petit ananas

I have Expected to open up this video and seeing you do a make up look inspired by Bryce’s dead water logged body lmao 😂 7:40 we can’t forget that one season of skam France lmao 20:50 it’s giving, “it’s Brittney bitch”

Girl "A little lost boyfriend with no one to loveee" are you kidding me? It's 1:30 am and my choked out laughter is gonna wake up my grandma.

a teen wolf video in 2024?? absolutely lets ride

klance was my sterek..

I think one reason why these teen-adult relationships seem to be okay for a lot of people in these shows is the actual age of the actors. Tyler Hoechlin is 4 years older than Dylan O‘Brien, who was already 20 when the show was aired. Same with Nina Dobrev in TVD. So its not like its a real teenager and adult falling in love, which subconciously makes it a lot easier to watch.

i'm up to season 3b and the only ff i'm reading atm is just stiles hurt/comfort oneshots :D (i nearly died laughing at several points in this and i have also found out stuff via destiel...)

Okay, the most surprising for me now is the fact that Jennifer & Kali WEREN'T in a romantic relationship, 😂😂😂😂 I spent all this years thinking it was canon

thinking back about watching teen wolf and shipping Sterek... for me it was just their energy, I guess. I like the completely opposite personalities they had, that somehow worked in their scenes together. I rarely ship hetero couples, mostly because the girl is very... girly and the man is very... manly. I like the strong, independent women characters, but they don't usually get put in romantic relationships, because they are just that: a strong independent woman. Stiles had that vibe; outspoken and not afraid to say what was on his mind. But he also had this weird spark/connection with Derek. and sometimes these damsel in distress moments, but also not helpless. I think that's just what made it a perfect match for me. Both strong in their one ways as a single character, but also strong together. (at least, what canon gave us. we had to fill in a lot with headcanon to make it work 🙈)

I have never watched this show but I am happy I watched this video, the part about gendered roles in movies/ horror specifically (possession) was so interesting and I'm excited to look for this in future shows/ movies I will be watching! Thanks for this great video, cheers🍻

32:00 I legit pulled away from my phone and turned my volume down because of cringe

4:10 one of the reasons i decided to watch teen wolf (some years back by now) was that everyone was talking about sterek, but when i actually watched the series, i just... did not see it. i didnt get it. iunno, ive just never shipped it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I've been reading Sterek fanfic for years without ever having watched Teen Wolf, and somehow managed to stay unspoiled on ever even SEEING the characters until this video, so now I'm not sure if I feel disillusioned or fascinated about the things I've learnt 😂

I am in love with this video 😢 it's so well constructed and compartmentalized in an order that leads seamlessly from one point to another and hit on all the divisive points of Sterek with such grace 😭 and that whole segment about Derek as love interest with no love and female fans naturally flocking to Stiles as self representation was so insightful, I had never thought of that😭😭😭😭

I thought this was Shrek, I feel bamboozled, Lol

As a transmasculine, who loves teenwolf and sterek. I howled over that article, I've never seen it, but I also only really hopped in the fandom in the last 3ish years. Stiles is also most definitely my self insert, but to be fair I also lowkey look like him.

I misread the title as Shrek now I'm here w no idea what's going on

Oh, the part re: possession in horror as a feminine thing is giving me so much food for thought! Thanks! ❤️

i watched next class without knowing it was part of a bigger universe in like 2018 or smth, last week i got to the episodes where maya, zig, and tristan showed up in next gen….. my mind was BLOWN

Man, those ten crushes really have a chokehold on you. Wasn't a fan of Lydia running after Jackson when she could have Stiles, but it made me remember those ten years.