I really wonder if it works the other way around though or different if I use default on top then alcs in the back, I’ll try your alcs out and try and fine tune them to the best of my ability and see what happens

@@undrrxated default shapes are always there and alc shapes are always there. Easiest way to notice it on defaults is to play on linear and set alc to like 1.0 . You push through a ring then have to shoot a line. Change alc to anything other than 6.0 and that line requirement changes. Same thing happens if you change your default curve with alc on. There's a list of videos in my comment on this video; the fov, various curves, and how I know my decimal, videos should give you all the info you need. Pretty sure things feel different with default aa tho, like alc shapes function differently with default aa strength instead of pc aa strength. There's a alc spot that felt like a push away column on pc aa that then gravitated towards the location it pushed away from when I swapped to default aa strength.

@@PickedaName_ thank you for the info I will def give it a try, I’m suprised that you haven’t gone insane yet haha

I use large because of the input mapping of 1.3, 111000...etc can't compensate for input mapping reductions past the 111. Default deadzones create input mapping disruptions, even with alc on, and by having it set to Large I am preventing input from being slowed down past initial input. Small creates slowdown around the 3rd stage of acceleration. None is further back. Large is initial input, if at all.

@@TTV_ash999 with alc settings on

@@PickedaName_ you should make a settings video it's unique seeing someone use high velocity

I'm only on PS5 and it's not on PS5

Plus idk if valorant outer threshold does what apex outer threshold does. This acceleration pattern stuff seems completely unique to this game. The entire settings screen is poorly constructed and many things in the menu have hidden aspects to them.

@@PickedaName_ it release on ps5

@@PickedaName_ like in valorant for ps5 there is only the inner and outer deadzone. But in general, is the deadzone in a game change everything for the aim, like making him more smooth or feel like horrible ?

Like for the deadzone video, it’s all new and there is 9 different curve, but no one know how they actually work with graphics etc

The default deadzone bleed through to alc alters input mapping, it probably does the same thing vice versa. I can change the default deadzone while my alc deadzone is set to high5 and the position where my input is registered on my controller doesn't change. What's weird is that the unput mapping changes as if my input registration was different; like zero default at high5 alc creates a dip in mapping around the 5th stage of acceleration, small at high5 creates a dip around 3rd, default large dips initial input.

Yes. 110 is the size of 4 hip, 90 is the size of 3 ads. 106 includes most characters w/o making you shoot specific areas. I'm trying 104 so I can aim at more of the character. The interior of the shape is where you can aim and deal damage.

It wasn't made faster by the build when everyone still runs to extraction. It's not like mission ends when Titania kills everything. They still stand at extraction for an entire minute waiting for everyone else to get there. They're bored and are making everyone else bored. Spamming 1 button to kill everything while moving faster than every other character is toxic. It's a self centered brain dead no life playstlye that completely impacts the experience of everyone it encounters. It's toxic.

Yaw&pitch at 1.3 are the starting speed that then increases at each section where there is acceleration in the curve (it has 3 sections). I can set my outer to positions to add acceleration to the rest if the input mapping so my speed continues to increase. My default curve input mapping (and deadzone) impact my alc input mapping. By playing on Default Linear I add no speed to the input mapping. If I play at Default Classic I add speed to the entirety of my alc input mapping. Yaw&Pitch might seem like it's being divided out through alc mapping at other curves because (I think) other curves have negative values in their mapping in addition to sections with 0s. At 1.3 I can reduce my speed and will notice I'll reach an aim assist solidity one section later than before I reduced it, basically forcing me to go to the 2nd or 3rd stage of acceleration to be actively aiming depending on how many times I reduced from the highest speed with alc curve solidity. 1.3 input mapping is 11100000 2.0 input mapping is like 10101022 The outer threshold is affecting the rate at which I interact with the Slowzones being created by the default speeds and alc per optics. Every time the outer acceleration pattern wraps around initial input and reaches the back of the input mapping my input strength increases and I move through slowzones slightly faster. My yaw/pitch affect the solidity of my alc curve shape and create the same solidity regardless of my outer threshold strength. The only time I need to change my yaw/pitch to affect alc curve aim assist solidity is when I change my optics.

Glad it helped kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqDHp3uEYsl8bqM Like half way through this video (3:15) I list a bunch of alc curves with shapes similar to default curves. Whatever your vertical is affecting the solidity of is the area where it feels like you need to be for shots to register.

@@PickedaName_ Thanks I'll check it out

You can reduce your hipfire to 4 to get a larger slowzone. 110 fov makes the circle of linear as small as possible. You can change your alc curve to get a different shape, 1.0 & 6.0 are thin lines and I think 7.0 is a sticky circle. 2 is ([ ]) 345 are () but different sizes, 8 is like a smaller 0, idk 9 10

Should be. I haven't had to run it in awhile but people say it's still good. Break as many containers as you can + Sargus drops a cell ~80%. The most I've found in a 5 min run was 7 (14 boosted) with a group that wanted to break all containers instead of rush the boss room. Xaku is a great frame to break open containers quickly, Limbo is good to.

Many variables. Alc response curve affects this. The Slowzone created by default speeds affects this. In my experience while using linear default with alc on it's 90 or 110. 90 good hipfire, 88 hip too wide vs rampart. 110 as close to wraith as possible, everything between weird based on who you're aiming at.

@@PickedaName_ how about alc off but with bleed through per optics

@@REJR90 idk

@@PickedaName_ it's clunky

I'm trying to decide which outer is best. When I used high13 in the past it was sketch but it seemed fine this game. I've made the slowzones soft cushions and I might want to make them slightly more solid. What's weird to me is that default outer can interact with the slowzones more consistently than a lot of outers that feel stronger/faster.

I've played this game since like S3 and have never lagged this hard. It only happens in trios.

Like a clock that only has 10 hours on it. Each hour is a stage of acceleration in the input mapping. As you wrap around the clock starts to lose hours. The analogy(?) doesn't completely fit though because input strength increases each time it wraps around, this weakens the resistance slowzones (default speeds and ALC optics) provide. I thought it was skipping digits when it overlapped but really it's changing input alacrity, or something like that, and it mainly impacts input interaction in slowzones (while also changing input mapping in general).

And 106 fov. Thank me later. Put all ur alc settings on 0 but responscurve on 30. works for some werid reason

I'm not relying on aim assist, the game never overrides my input. In this video solidity of a shape is reappearing and preventing over swinging. It's aim prevent, not assist, which is why I said it's a struggle. 106fov at linear is shaped poorly, I've used it and it creats inconsistency vs different character models. You should play at 90fov and free aim instead of trying to have that circle hug your target. Actually you should just play at High Velocity and have no aim assist at all instead of relying on the circle of Linear to track targets for you.

You miss the concept of aiming you shouldnt drag ur aim around you should realise and focus on crosshair placement.

Idk if you play on 120fps but 106fov is best for me. 90fov you have little if not no ideer what is going on and when i comes to apex listening to sounds isnt the best options is it…

Your opinion is heavily based on assumptions. Saying things at me assuming they are relevant.

Each response curve has a different aim assist shape, fov affects the size of this shape. Each default speed has a different slowzone size; fov doesn't affect this. These things affect alc settings.

I couldn't throw it in the beta. You slam it on the ground around you or something like that. You explode.

Ccan you explain the pattern? I don’t get what all the numbers mean but im intrigued cuz on my xbox controller I use like 0 deadzone and I feel what you are talking about. Sometimes its sticky and I can operate fully in that aim assist but other time it feels like it never activates

@@gamerwol29 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXvdo4h8d9tomKc last video about outer thresholds. They create acceleration patterns in addition to the orange ring removing stages of acceleration from the back of the slope. 222111 is starting at the 1st stage, and it's three 2s because 1.3 alc curve only changes speed by 1 in the first 3 stages.

1.3 would be a 1110000000 w/o an outer threshold when using default Linear input mapping "bleed through"

@@PickedaName_ bruh got me to go down the rabbit hole. Nice videos frfr

@@gamerwol29 idk if it's the same at every alc curve but I'm finding the fastest outer that keeps the default "bleed through" slowzone on my hipfire because 1.3 doesn't have one without going to negative per optics on the ads, which I can't do on the hipfire. Different curve input mapping & hitbox shapes are variables and I can't know how they would impact this w/o playing at different combinations. I picked 1.3 because it's the best sticky circle hitbox.

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ-samNqf5x4ps0 Those spots are the closest thing but they're not exactly the same as the default linear shape. Their ring is a lot wider but the interior is roughly the same size as the slowzone of default 3 ads. Their vertical can't be made solid due the width of the interior, and when the horizontal is solid it prevents approach.

Maybe 5.0 is the closest thing iirc it's wide ( ) like so wide that you free aim inside of a ring but it's like parentheses instead if a circle. I didn't like 5.0 way back before I knew defaults affected alc

1.3 at high velocity before they changed something about the aa. 1.3s horizontal used to track like default Linear at 110fov but it doesn't do that anymore no matter how slow I make it so now I'm using default Linear bleed through. The issue I've had at 1.3 is having the horizontal be there w/o it preventing me from doing things. 1.3 vertical is basically a giant dot the size of an entire small character, the horizontal is a ring that starts at roughly the same spot as the slow zone of 2hip/3ads. 1.3 at Classic was decent but Classic bleed through is wack because it's a dot. This version of 1.3 is good but since the horizontal isn't there it's kind of weird which is why I'm messing with my deadzone to affect my ability to manipulate horizontal solidity/aa. When it's there the setting feels normal but it also prevents things from happening unless I make it disappear at some point in the input. I'm trying to make it reappear instead of disappear by disrupting my input mapping.

The way I adjusted it for FF7Rebirth taught me that option 1 is saturation, 2 is contrast, 3 is black level. Lowest black level is too dark and distorts the image. I played through FF16 with base saturation, higher contrast, and base black level and it was fine. With HDR off FF16 looks darker and bolder than FF7Rebirth; Rebirth has lighting that literally hurts my eyes because it's too bright w/o HDR auto adjusting the image.

@@PickedaName_ Yeah, but I'm not saying to turn off hdr, I'm talking about the game's brightness at 0, It might look dark at times, specially when you get to Back to their Origin, but you get used to it, I've been enjoying the game a lot more like this, The Rising Tide looks phenomenal

I know what I'm doing kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXvdo4h8d9tomKc The dullness you're describing doesn't occur until like 9% and it doesn't create dullness on linear inputs because Linear is +0. If you're on alc and say it dulls your input that probably means your defaults are set to Classic. Also saying 3% deadzone means nothing when there are multiple 3s, my deadzone is 2aboveDef5 and if I decrease it to default it disrupts input mapping. I'm currently trying 1aboveDef5 to affect my ability to manipulate horizontal aim assist.

I have 1-4 defaults set to 3, alc optics at low.4 to create the same slowzone. The alc optics vary depending on your response curve. I was adjusting the slowzones at 3.4 optics when I was in 8 curve before I realized what slowzones actually were. There are 3 positions at each optic value low/mid(default)/high

@@PickedaName_ I think my X1 and X2 are set at 4.6

​@@PickedaName_what per optics would you suggest using 4.2 linear no dead zone

@@karimaxwell5290 i can't recommend anything at alc curves I haven't used. It's all based on the slowzone being created. I prefer the circle that is larger than large characters, it's nest to the column; like 3 ads circle is next to 4 ads column. Look up vpk apex reddit, ehat I'm describing is the target angle velocity cutoff

I think the slowzone needs to be inside of the default curve shape. If you're on linear 110fov I think 4 hipfire is inside the shape but if you make your ads 5 (to make a slowzone similar to 4hip) you wont be able to hit headshots. I think Linear at 110fov has the ring inside of the slowzone of 3 ads which is why it feels weird sometimes.

5 linear will look like the setting in my Linear but Classic video. My alc optic is set to the spot that creates the same slowzone as default 5 ads.

Is your aim bad in other games? Your apex aim could be bad because their Classic aim assist prevents you from aiming at the entire character. I'll link a video that can help you understand what you're choosing with the default settings. Fine aim is a column [] and 4 ads is a column [] so I think that would be the easiest to aim with as a new player but your hipfire wouldn't be a column at any point it'd have to be a dot in the column. Try 4-7 hipfire and 4 ads at Fine Aim curve. I've never used it but based on what I know it'll let you aim at heads & chest but it might be weird when shooting from above or sniping.

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iprbi4qDjKd4qtE This video describes the slowzones of each default speed and the shape of each default response curve's aim assist.

@@PickedaName_ thanks bro

I forgot something. If you're playing on Fine Aim try setting your alc curve to 6 or 1 to make it a thin line. idk the shape of the default alc curve but your alc settings are affecting your default settings even when they're turned off.

@@PickedaName_ I tried playing on fine aim but it’s so weird it just flicks and doesn’t feel comfortable

You know literally nothing about this setting and think the adjustments I feel are necessary to do what I'm attempting to do are moot. I posted 2 videos after this and the gunplay looks better. Why? Because I adjusted my setting you dolt.

I'm not changing things randomly. I'm noticing something disruptive and attempting to remove that disruption.

@@PickedaName_ there's no need to act like that, if you have the perfect settings and you have an off game, are you then going to tweak your settings? i have played both 4-3 linear and 500 hipfire 200 ads on alcs with high kill games, settings dont mean anything, especially micro adjusting anyway it doesnt matter, i just wanted to offer some help, if you dont want it then keep doing what you're doing

@@Vodysly5_5 your "help" is pretentious. I don't adjust based on performance. Your assumptive opinion is pointless. Your vague advice is something people who don't know tell other people that don't know. If you knew what I knew you'd be doing the same thing as me.

@@PickedaName_ my help isnt pretentious, its proven, the number one factor to getting better is consistency, not fine tuning your settings. your vids are interesting and i will try some stuff out for sure so keep doing your thing but theres no reason to be so hostile man

Not trying to be a asshole just trying to give you constructive criticism maybe try raising your ads sense so you can track easier or learn how to aim with your strafe instead

I think your crosshair placement could be better too instead of looking at the floor and leg level try looking at chest level by default

Lmao you thought I would give af about your opinion

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXvdo4h8d9tomKc Last video about outer thresholds kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3bXp2R9eaiNl7c Outer video uploaded before that one . There's a reason I'm doing what I'm doing

You realize this is an old video? I've literally been putting the info as the title of videos...

What do you think you need to know? I have videos on basically everything. I upload as I learn stuff. You might not realize this but I'm solving a puzzle piece by piece. If you're trying to learn then skim my ALC playlist, I put it in an order that should make sense to somebody trying to learn what I know. There are like 4 videos before this one in the playlist; they cover deadzone, alc curve aim assist shapes, and per optic aim assist. The videos after this in the playlist cover how default settings affect alc, and outer threshold stuff.

It's the first 12 videos (even though the playlist has 30 in it). I usually explain the subject within the first minute then give a more detailed step-by-step explanation after that. kzbin.info/aero/PL090lxzhDiLRnwH4mwaOrC-IQ6e_A45DA