I got fitted with the Callaway AI Smokes... hope they perform well in this vid.

I just bought Tmade P790s last season over the takomos but just barely because of price and because I could finance the P790s so it wasn't a direct hit to the wallet, as well as the fact that I had a 90 day return guarantee buying off of golf avenue. Do I regret not getting the Takomos? After watching this video and then your video on mid handicapped clubs where the P790 was reviewed, definitely. I was led more to believe on the internet that the P790s were only marketed as PD but actually had a lot of technology in them that made them good for game improvement, and that the Takomo 101s were the opposite, and after coming off of a (for a new golfer) good and very quick learning first season I thought why not challenge myself with something instead of relying so much on the club. Instead, I've ended up with largely dispersed shots, I only just at the end of the season started getting consistent contact with them, and now cant figure out why the ball goes directly 60 yards right from where I aim. Looking back I definitely wish I had just atleast given the Takomos a try, that price was definitely nicer than 90% of irons on the market, but not having a return guarantee along with not being able to test the irons anywhere near me scared me away. I made a hasty decision on another cheaper set and ultimately paid the price (no pun intended).

Only reason he didn’t include the Maltby TS1 IM or the Maltby TS3 is because he didn’t even do a video of them🤣

I don’t disagree with Vice or Takomo being excellent buys for high handicap players. A lack of a fitting isn’t going to be a massive game changer for most users in this bracket. However, I still disagree with the criteria. Forgiveness should weigh the most and I think Rick measures it completely wrong. Left and right misses are primarily the user’s fault, not the club (a slight exception for massive offset maybe). Forgiveness should be measured front to back based on strike location. If I center strike it and it goes 180 vs a 1/2 inch toe that goes 165, that is what I want to know. Also, giving points for distance when one club is a full club difference in loft compared to another seems pointless without knowing the descent angle and backspin generation. If the 27 degree club is producing a greater descent angle with comparable backspin to the 32 degree club, then fair dues. Otherwise it’s a 6 iron vs a 7. My P770 7-iron goes about 15 yds shorter than the G430 I have. I still game the 770, because I think it’s better. Not to mention, I much prefer the gapping of the 770s. Regardless, if you’re in the high handicap range, Vice and Takomo should do you just fine. If you’re paying more, it’s probably a non-performance reason, but not really anything wrong with that either if you have the means. Like what you play.

have you done the kirkland giveaway yet that you promised

Love my PXG XPs. Awesome clubs

Joint winners? What?

I don't think you have ever reviewed Srixon Irons!!!!

You need to include ease of fittability in the criteria next year. Than the DTC would drop.

I have the takomo 101s and the ping g430s. The 101s definitely sound and feel better but the pings are way easier to hit. You can launch them super high and far and get enough spin to make them stop. I found the 101s to have a more low penetrating ball flight that would run like crazy. The ping long irons are way easier to hit

This was posted days ago.

Mizuno 925 h/l for me and thats what i was fitted with. Did try others bit not so good for me. I didn't try Takomo.

Where are the Mizuno jpx hot metal pros?

I would love to see some more reviews on complete beginner sets.

Artificial intelligence in a golf club. What a load of bollocks. 😂😂

Anyone who actually knows about golf (lol): How do you think the P790s would rank in this line up?

Would be curious to see some of the other brands included, and possibly some of the more obscure japanese offerings... as a 23.5 handicapper i lucked my way into a set of Epon af703, and by far are the best feeling and most accurate and forgiving irons i have played... but no one ever talks about Epon, despite them being made in one of the largest forges in Japan, Endo...

I think that a high handicapper like me , is least worried about the looks ( as long as they are not extremely ugly) . Usability and distance and loft is more important. I love your input normally, but I think that you should have had a high handicapper testing alongside you Rick .

Thought Tour Edge E723 might have had a look in

Surely the distance category could have factored in the loft .ie +/- 3yards for each ° or included ball speed off the face aswell to try and give a clearer result?.

Maltby ts3 irons

Rick rick come on were are the Wilson's, pxg, Cleveland etc etc not good my friend

Mizuno 925???

Cleveland Mizunomand titleist

Yeah sound argument. They’d be the 2 I’d pick between.

I have the Takoma 101t and agree 100%. Great feel and accuracy but the pride takes a hit with the distance. However, winning bets because I'm hitting more greens helps soften that blow!

It's good to see you applying actual data to your reviews. It's much easier to make a judgement when you have actual data.kzbin.infofAU706zgVs4?si=CP1HjyrITJQGkDWK

I think a full bag of hybrids is the best thing for high handicappers.

No P790 irons ? Those are high handicap irons

Only thing about Takomo is it takes so long to be shipped.

Im a high handicapper but play worse with GI irons…what’s up with that?

If it matches up loft. the you should structure it that way. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️ thanks for comparison though. Great video

So the Callaway and Cobras are effectively 5 irons. Imagine that loft bias on your 9 iron smash it 170 yards, you best be hitting it a mile in the air to get some stop on summer greens. Bonkers

Hi Rick, My son is looking at some mens clubs to move into. His handicap is on the way down. Therefore, I am torn between takomo 101 and 101t irons. I am learning towards 101t as I feel they would last him longer what's your thoughts?

Just got into golf 2 summers ago and got the bombtech irons. Would love to know your thoughts on this brand. You have done a reveiw a long time ago, and i understand they are a small brand with admittedly kinda of a cheesy tag line but for a really begginer they seem to be work ok. They are also really cheap so again would love to know your thoughts

Wish I could hit Takomos. I've hit the Taylormade, Cobra and Callaway. I'm going with Callaway. The QI wasn't as pure for me and the Darkspeed felt like a sledgehammer.

The biggest problem with a range finder is leaving it attached to the cart at the end of the round! Just got a Garmin watch and I am STOKED

I would really to see what you think of the Cleveland Zipcore XL irons.

Srixon zX4 mk II

It’s really cool that takomo makes their game improvement irons available in weaker loft options as well.

I went and got fitted for PXG gen 6 irons. I hit them well and I like them a lot

Again…why has Srixon been excluded from this list??

101t?

Rick would love to see the 101t compared to the 101

Not having a forgiveness category is a big miss on these clubs.. Sorry Just my opinion

The Vice clubs are in my sights 100% accuracy with those looks 🤤. I also think it’s a brand that separates you from your golf buddies.

The new Lazrus Laz2 irons would have competed nicely with these

You need to get an appropriate high handicap team member to do these reviews. I’m guessing the vast majority of your viewers are higher HC. No channels really have a high hc on staff but that’s what we want

I pray Takomo doesn’t jack their prices before I order my new set this spring.

Mizuno is def in the top 3; price must have ruled them out.