The wings have regressed

Now they have a good chance to add Matthew Schaefer to it. 😂😂

What is there to not like? I can think of 7.1 million reasons.

If you guys are down about the loss to the Canadiens, wait till you see what St Louis did to us. Not gonna go to another game until I hear Lalonde is gone.

You guys should get hazard pay for running a Eings podcast it's been so ugly. I'd be fine if you wanted to watch the Wings in shifts Brad takes one game, Ryan gets the next, and then Evan. Spread the pain out a little. Merry Christmas boys.

The Red Wings will not be any good until Yzerman leaves because he is making bad moves.

Prospect pools can always be analyzed to fit a narrative - ours isn't actually very good when looked at objectively. We're really relying on ASP and Danielson to save our organization? LMAO. Hopeless team, hopeless front office, hopeless coaching staff. 10 years away from being 10 years away.

I would rather see the Wings lose 6 to 4 or 7 to five and provide fast paced excitement than watch these intensely boring product they are putting on the ice. Winning is necessary of course.But if you are losing and putting your fans to sleep,what's the use? Futility.

For all of the Yzerman haters out there complaining about the FA signings, I'm genuinely curious what he should have done differently to move the needle.

Cozens is making a lot of money for a long time. It's an intriguing idea but I'd rather a GM that I don't trust not make a decision that big. There is no margin for error.

This hockey team is impossible to watch. They're so bad and play ghe most boring hockey. Team defense is absolutely trash and not one player is trying or willing to throw a hit, let alone finish a check. LaLonde needs to go, now.

He is right! Its so hard to fing a big 3 Defensemen and even harder to have them all under 23 years old like Detroit does. Thank you Stevie Y! I don't care what happens this year, i am here for the long haul as a true Wings fan.

better than being a buffalo fan right now..... 13 L's in a row god damn!!!!

The December curse is almost over... it's ZERO to HERO time, baby!! Lalonde's hair is going to grow back, baby!! We're gonna make it into the playoffs, baby!! We're gonna get knocked out in the 1st round!! Heyyo!!

I do miss last year's Team. This has been a big mistake by management!

I am sooo surprised that's the red wings, a mighty franchise doesn't have the pair to fire a mediocre coach like lalonde. I don't care if it's a rebuild process, the red wings are the red wings an original 6, and the office is acting as if the team is a small franchise. I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Lalonde has to go he needed to go since losing to the sharks and nothing has been done. Mediocre!

Prospect pipeline episode....in December. Jfc. It's not your fault, I know. But I'm gonna put the podcast down for the next 9 months. I can't do this.

Not the prospect pipeline!

If they replaced Lalonde with Tanguay, there's a better chance of the team improving than if they replaced him with Boughner. Really, I think if Lalonde is fired, Boughner has to go with him.

Yet we still have Yzerman fanboys making excuses for this pathetic product. We are currently in the same spot of the standings as we were when he took over, so the real question is, what is he doing? Yes, yes, I know. Wait for the kids, blah blah blah. We all torched Holland when he said a rebuild would take 10 years, yet by the looks of it, it will be 10 years with Stevie before we make the playoffs. How is that acceptable? Bad move after bad move, yet fans cant separate the player from the manager. I guess Detroit fans are cool with being subpar for the rest of time.

This is funny to see one season later. Who thought the defense last year would be better than this year. Time to revisit this conversation.

Stop drafting "safe" players - checkers. Need scorers, playmakers.

I'm sorry, I'm an old man and was only vaguely listening to the open of this episode. What is a giblet that Evan references? 🤷

Time to sit Petry and play Albert Johansson all the time to see him develop

Merry Christmas gents! Keep up the great work. Big fan of the pod. Thank you!

Bribing the guys with a janky 3d printer nice 😂

The problem with tank is that RW is the worst team in the league to do it. It is also noticeable that the conflict of the business side versus the sports side has taken a big hit this year. The number of visitors per game has steadily declined and those numbers do not include all those like me who follow teams live via the internet. But the decline has been there for several years and is not at all due to bad luck in the draft draw, which is mostly a poor excuse by the staff in the organization. Where Lalonde this year sounds like a repetitive record completely without the presence of reality in his own analyses today. S.Y believed that the team needed Vet's for their leadership and create a winning culture for all the young people to take part in. 6 years of his leadership and the team culture is that the players do not believe in the staff's version at all anymore, it is clearly visible in all the press media for everyone to take part off. How bad the product is on the ice today is that no one can sit safely. So tank, should have been done years ago and should have been done better by the organization's staff. The only thing that can save S.Y today is if he blows up the team and only keeps MO/Raz out and everyone else including Cat & Larks to be available. The problem is that no other team is interested in players from RW as they are former or average at best. 6 years of drafting where the strategy has always been to take the best available player and had never expand with a new version. Merry Christmas

merry christmas fellas!

The word “prospect” is so overused and devoid of meaning at this point. We were supposed to be having the prospect conversation in 2019, and we did, when it was a fresh start it makes sense. here we are… 6 years later, and bottom of the division. who is going to take accountability for this? The least Yzerman could do it address the fans that basically allow you to have your job. What a smug jackass.

As much as I want to see this team win/make the playoffs, I think they’re benefit more from a top 5 draft pick.

What the? Is Stevie brain dead? What has Lalonde got on him? Better coaches than him are gone long ago! Steve is embarrassing loyal Wings fans.

They actually didn’t play bad defense against Montreal. It was bad goaltending. Averaging out Moneypuck, Natural Stat Trick, and Evolving Hockey expected goal models for both games show good defensive games and bad goaltending. They allowed Cam Talbot to face 2.93 expected goals and he gave up 4 goals for a goals saved above expected of -1.07. Alex Lyon faced 2.37 expected goals and gave up 5 goals. His goals saved above expected was -2.63. In total 5.3 expected goals against and 9 goals given up for a -3.7 goals saved above expected. So, goaltending cost them a 3-3 overtime point with the possibility of a win in the first game and 2-2 overtime point with the possibility of a win in the second game.

Miss for Misa!

The Wings have to win 80% of their games from here on out. We all know that's not happening. Just tank. Get a higher pick. Trade everyone who still has value

Were only 4 points away from dead last. A little roster manipulation and well be right down there with buffalo and chicago. This team desperately lacks elite talent and the only way were going to get it is through the draft

even despite everything Lalonde has done to him, Kane appeared fully willing and able to rescue him and his awful team if he had just been allowed to keep Cat and Copp full time and get some usage w Seider's d pair. and Lalonde couldn't do it. that deal was not good enough for him. it was still not giving Raymond EVERYTHING. it was still making the wrong guy the star. so he couldn't allow it. after the 1st period of the 1st MTL game, he stopped letting them play w Seider/Chiarot despite dominant analytics together in the 1st period of that game and 1-0 on the scoreboard. it cost them that game. then last game, team up 1-0 and rolling, he out of nowhere decides to swap DeBrincat and Rasmussen for a shift each in the middle of the period. Cat Ray Larkin, Ras Kane Copp. the team immediately collapsed. it was like he'd punched the entire team in the gut. for no reason. and then in response to this collapse - which btw included Lyon simply being horrific in net - he broke up the Copp Kane Cat line altogether for the rest of the game. he broke up ALL the lines, all the pairings of the forwards - except of course for Larkin and Ray. they NEVER get split up. you will rarely find a more self-sabotaging career ruining couple of games by any coach in NHL history. as i say - Pat appeared fully willing to straight up save this guy's job the rest of this year and make this a good team. Lalonde refused it. he's a bum. he has to go.

And Kakko scored on his first game in Seattle ... why should Yzerman bother making trades for young players when we have our own krappo

I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t be for a tank after back to back losses to the habs. Zero point getting the 10th pick again, we need to get in the top 3-4 of the draft . Trade Kane, tarasenko, etc.. ASAP and make trades for the likes of a cozens or byram and start calling up Soderblom,wallinder, tuomisto etc... and see what’s there This seasons over

The thing that drives me genuinely mad is the constant refrain of "We overperformed last year." Throwing up your hands and demanding everyone accept a step back is absurd. I don't care. The team was a tiebreaker away from the playoffs. Yzerman is the GM, it's his bloody job to head off the problem and try and prevent the regression you're expecting. You can't do this to the fans and tell your players you don't have expectations of them. You can't do that at all.

I’m sorry but I don’t even want to watch this

Bothers. Why you gonna give me a prospect episode right before Christmas, we’re almost cooked but not well done 😂😅

I don't see eight games as a clear message. It should have been more based both on the hit and his history.

You want Red Wings management's attention. Stop showing up for the games, 5000 people in the stands max. Or everyone wears black. It won't happen because we are die hard fans. But it'd me great to see.

Petry and Chaiot Montreal “castoffs”

I'm getting old and the memory is not was it was so I'd like to ask a question and hope i am wrong,,but did we not trade away our 1st round pick this year for DeCat ??

I mean I knew this episode was comming sooner or later.. oof LGRW 🐙🏒🤘

If Shai Buuim is two years away with what is on the Red Wings roster he simply isn’t much of a prospect.

Sure glad Stevie got rid of Walman and a good right handed D prospect. It’s going to look even worse for Yzerman if Gibson turns out to be decent. This season is absolutely baked!