The misfortune is extremely disappointing.

It is NOT an upgrade to the Vulture, and I"d argue its an upgraded Vulture instead. Though In reallity, the do compete. Its not Tedious. after a bit of time with ti, I find it a better salvage ship than the Vulture. Frankly, I feel you were a bit Salty, and I'd take a guess its due to the state of the game being in such crapy shape, but don't take that out on the ship...

You should do a carrack since cargo and blast shields are in the game now

While I agree on much of the criticism of the Fortune, primarily the lazy reuse of an existing ship, I am not opposed to the idea of different ships that do the same task more or less efficiently. Ships should not all be equivalents of each other for any given purpose. That said, the pricing should reflect something meaningful. Like aesthetics; a sense of luxury and meticulous, flowing design like Origin ships or a downright practical, industrial design like Drake. Or efficieny. Or stability, survivability, firepower, utility etc. These things should all impact price. Problem here is that the price is the same as the Vulture. Vulture is clearly superior here. It really isn't very hard to go stack the boxes in the back. It's just a better salvage ship, and looks the part too. The fortune should be a $100 ship IMO. But if we're being honest, the Vulture maybe should only have one salvage head too. It is a bit too easy to make money with the Vulture compared to almost anything else in the game.

'We want mid sized salvager' - CIG 'you will get a totally pointless smaller salvage ship' - 1xs1 salvager head, totally, utterly, pointless. Part of salvage is taking cargo and weapons, where you gonna put the s5 weapons?

I am loving the fortune so far. I have a vulture as well. I prefer the fortune. It's not one thing, it's an overall nicer experience to me. The ladder inside couldn't be more annoying in the vulture. The view from the pilot seat in the fortune can't be beat either. Thankfully, mine hasn't blown up yet😂

Fortune is definitely worth it, I spent a full day using it and it was better than the Vulture in my opinion! Melted my Vulture this morning.

My Titan has been the best, and only, purchase I ever made in SC.

8:30 LMAO why did you load your cargo boxes in from the front of the ship?? You did that to yourself.

I absolutely love the Fortune. I am a bit disappointed that there's not 2 buffers each with 13 scu to hold, but it's fine. All I do is salvage and bounties, and there's definitely pros and cons of both. For once, it really is a matter of preference between two ships. You can salvage slower with the Fortune, but you have more space for extra stuff like storing weapons without sacrificing your cargo hold, vs the vulture that has to have the entire hold used for cargo. No ladders or a bunch of doors to interact with, less hassle when it comes to cargo management, and I like the look more. Still getting 35+scu on both, so the money is roughly the same.

I could see another advantage to the fortune if you're running in a group and having a party member being able to take stuff directly off the grid to put it into a cargo ship for transport

RV space camper

US$120... No.... more like $70

How the hell you getting 40 boxes in a vulture?

Ok, so what I'm really curious about is the times. If I'm only using cargo grid, how long does it take each ship to get up to 12 scu of scraping. Maybe 20 (I'm not gonna do that trying to stuff the ship thing). If I could get average timings for those I could get a better feel for how these ships really compare.

CIG: "ok we have a ship with interior cargo hold with a suit locker for EVA, and we have a ship with external component storage and cargo storage. this one does not need a suit locker obviously ☝🤓"

MISFortune: . : bad luck especially for a extended period of time. 2. : an unfortunate condition and/or event : disaster.(ous)?... I honestly like the ship but hard not to see that word..

"not worth it" is a better tagline for SC than "hold the line" 😂

Thanks for a good review and comparison before I bought one. I'm going to hold off after watching. I already have a vulture and I agree the inconvenience of the fortune isn't worth it.

Waste of developers time, when this role and class size has already been fulfilled by Vulture. Nobody needs this ship for game development it’s just dumb.

Even if it fails to deliver. i'd rather look good than flying a Drake Fork Salvager lol

If only the fortune acted like the Hull-c by folding out to hold more salvage. A misc’ed opportunity. I love my vulture which is why Drake makes better duty over beauty ships

The idea is different ships within the same role and pricing being offered that do the same job slightly differently. That allows for people with different priorities and gameplay styles to make their own choices. Like how car manufacturers all offer compact cars, hatchbacks, SUVs, sedans etc. all at similar price points, I predict that ship manufacturers in SC will be doing the same. Every new ship should *not* make a new "meta" in the game, but rather provide options that suit more people's styles more specifically through minor variations. As an example, this ship may not be as easy for a solo pilot to overstuff as the Vulture, but it is *far* superior for those who do multi crew multi ship methods unloading full ships into a mothership and continuing to work, or for those who do not off-grid load at all. *My* best method isn't *your* methodology necessarily, and the fact that this ship caters to one style over another actually makes sense. Excellent design goals, and moderately well achieved.

All of this is true and is trumped by one fact: It is small. Small enough to fit into the Polaris with room to spare for another ship to park next to it, or a number of parasite fighters, Argo tractor etc... It is also a really useful support ship for ground combat - since the external cargo grid lets you easily drop off people and boxes for looting corpses. It even has a tractor for moving stuff around. Its a real jewel small support craft for ships with internal hangar space. I already have two org members that have bought one after seeing how useful it is in the parasite support ship role, with the added advantage of having an on-board salvage ship to clean up the wrecks the Polaris leaves behind.

There are three situations where the fortune is better than the vulture. 1) You want to carry it aboard another ship 2) group salvage with a hauler, esoecially when the hauler has a ship tractor, such as zeus cl or taurus. The hauler can just sit above them pulling the rmc off as it gets spat out 3) for those people that hate drake or love misc

I'd take the fortune over the vulture. I probably wouldn't bother trying to stuff every little cubby with salvage (Don't do that on the vulture either, so, not having to go down the ladder, eject the box, place it on the grid, then go back up, etc, its.... Yeah, FOrtune wins for me. EDIT: AFTER spending time with Fortune, it ccan carry more cargo, intgernally and externally, than Vulture, it has longer range so it can Salvage Longer than Vulture, and the process of Salvaging on this ship becomes more Zen. I think it is a better ship than the Vulture, but that is my subjective opinion; I see how many will prefer the Drake ship over the MISC ship (dut to speed, looks, firepower, which is similar, etc). Myself, I'll stick with the Fortune, mainly because I tend to favor MISC design aesthetics, and the cockpit is GREAT! Also, I am not one to Pack a Vulture Crazy full of RMC and stuff, so VUlture is good for me. Cant wait for other MISC ships with a Gold passs.

The Fortune is smaller then the vulture should fit in or on more ships

I have never been able to get 40 SCU in the Vulture, so that is a non-issue... Not to mention that with the Vulture there are a lot of times when one of the salvage heads doesn't even salvage because it is not aligned to the panel/hull, so the Fortune is better in that regard too. The fact that I can activate the auto eject feature on both dispensers and never have to get up while salvaging is a huge plus, because I can fill the 12 SCU Cargo and 13 SCU buffer and go somewhere safe to unload if solo. The 4 SCU of cargo space being used for extra salvage is situational, and while viable, is not necessary or even a deal-breaker. I definitely agree about the price points and the criticism that the design feels lazy. Was really hoping that the exterior cargo grid could double-stack (12 per side), but oh well...

Nice comparison review--thanks!

Thanks for confirming the ½ speed salvaging on the Fortune. Honestly, it along with the Reclaimer should get a one size bigger salvage beam compared to the Vulture.

And what if I don't want to use every square millimeter of space on my ship for boxes? 😆 The Fortune will let you do 25 boxes without getting out of the pilot seat. 12 cargo grid and 13 in the hopper. Then you go unload. Unloading and turnaround time could be quicker than all the tedious stuffing of boxes into the hallway you so inelegantly demonstrated. 😆

Nope. No stability yet. The Fortune has magic headlight munching and magic box teleworking. No thanks.

I think if you have a hull A following you the misc ship is the better option than the drake since they can just pluck them off the side as you go. doing the same thing with the vulture is alot more tedious. My mate and i had been doing this with the vulture where he would follow me with the Hull and park behind me at panels and toss the boxes out the back as we when then when i finished he'd pop them on his ship when i moved to the next set of panels. this fortune means he no longer needs to come on board to do the same thing. but even when the liberator becomes a thing i think this ship will be even better to work with it than the vulture no having to open the ship up is such a better way of doing it. Edit: so long winded but point is pure solo vulture better ship duo/small team fortune seems the better option.

If you click auto when you start you don't even need to get up and you get 27 without leaving your seat. I found 38 to be the sweet spot if you don't mind getting up once, 12 on sides + 13 hopper + 2 stuck, 3 in front of the back door 8 on the lift no doors. ... I was able to fit 55 once but the doors are just a pain, takes too much time. The speed of scraping.., not twice as long but I definitely feel it.

I hate sitting around waiting for the hopper to dump boxes. And now that Pyro is here the fact that i can scrape and go is great. All that getting up, going down a ladder, glitching going up the ladder again, then unloading is for the birds. 😂

If this had a size 2 abrade then maybe, but 1x size 1 is terrible. I love the look and the interior and the external cargo, etc but I'll stick with my Vulture. I'd maybe upgrade if the abrade was size 2 just for a smaller ship and make quick runs of 29 scu, but I can quickly and easily enough do a Vulture run with 37-40 (depending on my mood lol). As for those saying team gameplay, well still take 2 of these plus a Polaris with at least a small crew and you may as well just all load up into a Reclaimer and be more productive. This is just for solo small salvaging runs for starters or those who don't care about min/max, or those who hate Drake aesthetics lol. That or the price needs to be much lower and not the same as the Vulture, way too expensive imo.

im a drake fan and im thinking the fortune is meta when you consider it can fit and be loaded in places a vulture struggles or cant fit... the drake is better in most ways but the cross section of the fortune makes it more likely to be preferred in more cases

I have a reclaimer so I don't need any of these two but, I kinda hate dealing with the cramped space of the Vulture. So when I use one, I fill it with the box on the grid, then I fill the machine and go sell. So, the idea of doing the thing with this one and NOT having to deal with moving any box in a cramped space makes me love this one more but the fact it has just one salvage arm is bad (Cause I even think the two from the Vulture feel slow after getting used to the Reclaimer Massive arms.)

4.0.1 is here and nel and more bugs too. No real stabilità, only frustration

I actually love the styling of the Vulture, BUT the ladder is a dealbreaker for me and since salvage isn't my main gameplay loop I got the Fortune instead

The unloading is meant to be done by group members onto a cargo ship. I dont think this is meant to be a solo ship.

Plan to mess with her this week but one feature I like besides the auto load and that the rear elevator has a cargo grid for salvaged components that is separate from the scu RMC grid. So I can now pull components and guns without losing the space in like my rear Vulture bay. This will make a sweet ride for Pyro clusters where I am pulling drugs out and them salvaging the wrecks. Since I don't need to move my scu boxes I am in the pilot seat the whole time to bug out when I see a threat. But let's see how it goes - be curious how much stealth she can get too with the right parts installed. Be the "Ghost Scrapper"

I can't see a point for this. Even if I was just going to use the grid, I can salvage twice as fast for the cost of having to stack the first dozen myself in a dedicated interior space vs the Fortune auto stacking the first dozen for me. If I go off the grid to hold more, its not even a question..Vulture all the way. Agree with the conclusion that if it were priced significantly less, then maybe. Also, there's the unfortunate name. I swear I thought they were trolling us with MIS(C) Fortune at first

It should have double salvage heads and double stacked cargo grid for 24 SCU external storage. Then maybe it could be priced similarly to the vulture. Not that I'd ever buy either with real money. 170 is absurd

I think you missed that the Fortune is better for group opps where you have multiple salvage ships moving boxes to a dedicated transport ship. It's external auto-generating boxes are far more convenient for continually moving into a transport ship as you go. But that's a tiny edge case at the moment. Almost no-one operates like that as you only do it if you have a salvage team too large for a reclaimer.

I agree for the price it isn't worth it just get a vulture in game.

Can you gimbal the salvage head like in the vulture?

I like the big window but the head of the ship just looks so ugly to me 😆 I love the vulture's looks

I think it pairs well with the Polaris. Load up, land in hanger and yeet cargo down the ele shafts to cargo bay and stack with alts. Don’t get as much as a vulture sure, but you are safely inside unloading, not exposed. For a solo player it’s great.

I get your point but I also don't think you've considered another point. The fortune is better for organized org logistics. If you run a salvage operation with an org and have 3 fortunes working with a central cargo ship. The auto ejecting feature reduces downtime of the ship after its been offloaded. You go fill up, print the boxes.. go fill up again. Go back to your cargo ship drop off point for your group, the cargo ship guy grabs the boxes and since you've got them set to auto eject there isn't even a need for the pilot to land. The cargo moves itself as the cargo guys grabs it. We ran a test of a group size of 8. We had 3 fortunes and a cargo team of 5 working out of polaris in the halo belt. We went for three hours using fortunes. We then did another three hours using vultures. The run with the fortune had 30% less downtime with the ships at the drop off points. My point is that either ship is going to be fine, they both do the same thing but the fortune favors group play more than the vulture does. But it doesn't matter as the differences are so minor that its irrelevant. Its literally a selection of what flavor you want because outside of that saying the fortune is "bettter" or "worse' is entirely in the eye of the beholder and the context in which they play. The fortune is a fine ship. Will more then be able to serve every single need that the vulture does.