2023 GR Corolla Taking Delivery + Real Dyno Numbers!

The boys head to Tustin Toyota to pick up the new 2023 Toyota GR Corolla for the shop. After removing some unnecessary dealer add-ons, Alex drives the Corolla around (including a local car meet) to complete the break-in requirement before taking it to Danny at Unrivaled Tuning. Wait till you see these Dyno results!
#grcorolla #toyotacorolla #corolla2023
Thanks to April at Tustin Toyota
Thanks to Danny at Unrivaled Tuning

[@hello7pm]

finally a real dyno test. a lot of people don’t understand this is the way to get consistent tests.

[@JustDriven]

We did many pulls in each setting, Sport, 50/50, 30/70, FWD, AWD...It may not be the numbers everyone wanted, but for us it's numbers for us to build on. We can at least see the increase over time.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@@JustDriven Watch you put an intake on and gain 50hp, when intakes gave the GR Yaris practically nothing according to Motive Garage. Which is more the reason to dyno again in dyno mode only, and get some consistent back-to-back numbers. FWD test 1st, and then beat on it in AWD mode if you wish.

[@negativeindustrial]

I’m here for 100% of the Toyota content. I have a black 1994 GT-Four WRC clone I built about fifteen years ago. It’s putting down just a bit more HP than this GR-Four. You guys will have to let me know if I need to be looking for one of these in about five years.

[@JustDriven]

We will know more after some of our partners step up and we start getting in some track time. First session is planned for this weekend!

[@negativeindustrial]

@@JustDriven Good luck with it y’all. Can’t wait to see the footage!

[@jamesk3565]

I'm jealous....I would love an ST205

[@Budward0]

@@jamesk3565 You can find them around 20k already in the US I just found one and got it. I really don't understand why everyone wants a GTR when the GT4 is a more practical and cheaper car.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

If I keep my st204 I'd love to do a rav4 swap. I'd say pick up a cheap automatic or non-runner and make it into a sleeper.

[@GeraldPUR]

Got mine 3 days ago, so I will be following you guys closely. Keep on posting

[@JustDriven]

Thank you so much for the support. Enjoy your GRC! We love ours so much.

[@jeremyswift7514]

I'm so jealous! Congratulations dudes

[@JustDriven]

Thanks! We are loving the GRC! Track data and mods coming up next!

[@kylewong1265]

Yo Alex. I daily the IS-F now haha. Trying to take care of it but I don't have a garage. The GR Corolla is nice. The dyno number is definitely lower than I expected. But 300hp to the crank (on estimate), seems pretty on par with 242whp. I see the channels growing. Hope all is well. Looking forward to keeping up with this build, excited for it.

[@JustDriven]

Hey! Thanks to much! It is pretty low and surprised us all. Thanks for the support!

[@SimpleLangSolution]

Pull starts at 8:55.

[@justinthematrix]

Ty bro

[@JacesOwnWorld]

I thought that was a lawn mower in the background 🤣

[@JustDriven]

Skipping? That's no fun!

[@ZaKattack52]

@@JustDriven people talk too much 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@hh6913]

Mvp

[@KA-eu6jq]

Finally real duo👍

[@JustDriven]

Keeping it real! Thank you!

[@ShenmueAtheist]

"Backed out of their deal" Aka, they weren't willing to pay 15k over MSRP like these chuckle heads.

[@AzodinBaller]

They paid 40.5k with packages, and it MSRP’s at 36k. Your math doesn’t add up

[@UltimaRSfan]

Anybody that pays over sticker is part of the problem

[@Xander1Sheridan]

@@AzodinBaller prove it. Who knows what they actually paid. They can afford to pay more.

[@clutch081]

They definitely paid a mark up for this car.. there is not many out there right now..

[@drkchocolatguy]

Every dealer here says 12.5k over sticker or 15.5k depending on if it’s a core or circuit. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@remyche8768]

Iv had my GR yaris Rallye for over a year done 15000kms and really like it. Been holding back modifying it waiting for more people to get the g16 platform. Hopefully it will put a price reduction on alot of parts. Be interesting to see what people do. Iv just done intake mods more cool turbo sounds

[@JustDriven]

Thanks for sharing your experience. We can't wait to mod the GRC...more content coming soon!

[@LukyJoe]

You got those numbers because you need to put it in dyno mode. The awd system fights the dyno.

[@JustDriven]

We definitely put it in dyno mode. Both for AWD and FWD testing. We found the info from the forums. We have footage of it going into test mode but will likely make it a shorts video.

[@LukyJoe]

@@JustDriven interesting to see the low numbers then. It could be that the dyno you used potentially had issues. All other dyno runs have been around 250whp+ which make more sense. Limit+1 posted a video on fwd mode that did 295whp which I believe to be off. This car definitely has more than 215whp.

[@nats50]

@@JustDriven Why is it reved to only 5,900 rpm when it peaks at 6,500 and redlines at 7,000? Wouldn't it make a difference? I expect about 230 whp which is a 23% power loss from this awd system.

[@SteremyJeele]

@@nats50 Yep, this would be part of the issue for sure. Toyota's information states peak torque is delivered by 4600rpm, but peak power isn't delivered until 6500.

[@Vermonstered]

@@nats50 huh? all the Dyno graphs are showing the pulls are all hitting ~6800 RPM. Car almost sounds like it's hitting the Rev limiter during the pull.

[@dmsyr1]

Man. This thing is so cool. I haven't been this hyped since the 2zz Corolla XRS!

[@JustDriven]

It is so much fun too!

[@focusfuri75]

FYI: just because it's recommended to only fill up with 91 or higher octane doesn't mean the dealership actually does that. bought a turbo car here in SoCal and drove it home, amazing mpg, decent power. drove it until it was just about empty, filled up with good quality 91 (shell) and couldn't believe the difference. way smoother, better mpg and noticeably more power

[@JustDriven]

Yah, that sounds like dealership tomfoolery. Since we did the break-in prior to dyno we had been using 91.

[@msalazar89]

Does it limit power until engine is broken in past a certain amount of miles??

[@JustDriven]

We checked with Toyota before bringing it to the dyno. The break-in had been completed to their specifications.

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

That little girl is adorable! Man, I miss when my daughter was that age. I'm not one for affection but her hugs and kisses meant the world to me. Little girls are every father's kryptonite. Spoil the crap out of her!

[@sonofnothing]

When I do a quick pull in my speed3, my little girl yells, 'yeah daddy! That was a good one! Faster!'

[@JustDriven]

Thank you for sharing this. That's Alex's lil kiddo. She has some very protective "uncles" around the shop. She is spoiled, loved, and very protected! @sonofnothing we love that! So cute.

[@drishvin]

I have the GR Yaris here. Mods done so far : HKS Carbon Air Intake, Decat Front Pipe and HKS exhaust plus a tuning box. I dyon'ed it recently and got 283WHP. Don't have a baseline to compare it though but someone else here dyon'ed a bone stock GRY at 230WHP. Anyways great content. Keep it up. Cheers.

[@JustDriven]

We wish Toyota sent the GRY to the US, but we're not complaining. We're stoked that the number crunchers at corporate approved the GRC for us North Americans. Thanks for the love! Cheers!

[@wtaeak]

Wow Thank you 👌🏻👑

[@JustDriven]

You're welcome!

[@yotarip]

The MK3 supra was manufactured in a "narrow body" model option also. The US spec was technically widebody, all sheet metal.

[@JustDriven]

Awesome. We will rub this in James's face for the rest of the week!

[@crowntug]

Could you compression test the engine to double check everything's ok?

[@JustDriven]

Computer read out from the tuner shows everything is functioning as it should.

[@maheshbathula1695]

Thank you

[@JustDriven]

No THANK YOU!

[@V8Brah]

Haha awesome! I was at Apex last week getting springs on my IS500!

[@JustDriven]

Yes! Love that IS500!

[@noahschaub1984]

Most companies intentionally had the speedometer’s read a little higher than the actual speed so that you don’t accidentally go above the posted speed limit.

[@JustDriven]

We have never really noticed this before. We thought it was interesting enough to mention.

[@miraio1]

@@JustDriven That is every single Toyota/Lexus I have tested this

[@dankpupdaddy]

The new Tundra Crew Max with a 6.5ft bed and GR Corolla would be a great due

[@JustDriven]

Alex wants a Tundra pretty badly.

[@praffulagrawal8899]

Awesome

[@JustDriven]

🤘🏼

[@Mrdekker16]

was it still in break-in during the dyno? maybe they limit power until its over. Doesn't sound like it even got up in the rpms it can

[@JustDriven]

Nope! We followed the Toyota break-in procedure and then some. We love this boosted 3-cylinder terror!

[@sssnake2332]

Now let's see it hit 400ft/lbs of torque on E85 like the '22 WRX.

[@hahaadventures4838]

Actually the 22 WRX has hit 525tq. now

[@Turbolious]

Yea, plus its funny all those articles out there calling this the STi replacement. Now we see that its actually lower than a stock 22 WRX by about 20Whp

[@JustDriven]

Dude...we like what you're saying!

[@dragodavidCE]

Probably blow up compared to the block this car has.

[@hahaadventures4838]

@@dragodavidCE not at 350/350. They’re getting that at less boost psi than the Corolla 3 banger.

[@ae.collective]

Im so jealous of this. Congrats. We had an allocation at another toyota but the markup was insanely into Supra territory.

[@JustDriven]

It's so fun! Hopefully you can get a chance to drive one. We are hearing about these insane markups. Wish dealerships would stop doing this.

[@brujohnkb24]

What was your OTD?

[@JustDriven]

About $5 over MSRP.

[@ae.collective]

@@JustDriven hopefully one of the friends get one and they let me drive it. Haha

[@recruted]

I could be wrong but could it have something to do with wheel speed not being consistent front to rear and side to side, Maybe it would have better numbers on a set of rollers that are connected locking all 4 wheels at the same wheel speed?

[@JustDriven]

Nah, the AWD dyno isn't off on any other car Danny's run. The boost numbers are what Toyota advertises. So everything is as it should be. Just has some serious drivetrain loss. We aren't upset though. It'll be fun to tune this.

[@recruted]

@@JustDriven I think I'd seen another KZbin channel with some boys from Down Under that had the turbo awd Yaris and it put down better numbers stock on rollers... but there could be some Tom foolery with the correction factor numbers too I guess

[@recruted]

Or they said crank hp corrected from the dyno

[@angurajthangaraj8534]

The great video ahead

[@JustDriven]

We hope there is lots more great videos ahead!

[@franciscodiaz6290]

gr corolla is a nice car, its a shame they only made 6000 inflating the price

[@JustDriven]

We love this thing so far. Not a sad face in the shop.

[@jimbochoo3316]

To GR Corolla 0-60 and 1/4 times are pretty consistent with it's 300hp and torque numbers.

[@JustDriven]

We are building a track car and will focus on suspension and handling characteristics. We will do what we can with the power Toyota gave us. Just excited to have a manual transmission petrol car to be able to buy instead of another EV offering.

[@SuperJj2468]

Buddy just did a 0 to 60 with a draggy he got 5.95 seconds . But said it shifted into 3rd right before 60 witch hurt time. Said he probably can do 60 in top of 2nd but hasent tryed it yet.

[@mjs9611]

@@SuperJj2468 how did "it" shift? its a manual

[@SuperJj2468]

He shifted early that 5.95 dragy pass 0 to 60 mph was a 8.97 at 78.5 mph in the 1/8 mile

[@angelgjr1999]

My 2003 Mustang GT with only 260 hp did 13.3 seconds 1/4 mile and 0 to 60 in the mid 5 seconds. Not bad with normal 285 nitto tires.

[@Akeem_768]

I already have the GR yaris RZ high & was excited when I heard north america was getting the GRC because I know y'all are the kings when it comes to a wide aftermarket development. Ive barely driven my GRY & would import the GRC in 2024 when it becomes available in mass in Japan.

[@JustDriven]

We suspect the popularity of the GRC will make it more widely available and in higher numbers. We wish we could get our hands on a GRY though.

[@rajputvikash5528]

Fire 🔥🔥🔥

[@JustDriven]

Whoa! Thanks for watching!

[@jasonmoyer]

Seems about right. It's a few tenths quicker in a straight line than the current WRX, which most people seem to be dyno'ing around 240 to the wheels. Which is fine, I currently have a VB and plan on getting a GRC in a few years to go with it. Rally cars are about traction and acceleration on loose/rough surfaces, they're not muscle cars. If you want to spend $30-40k on big power, get a 1SS Camaro.

[@steve8803]

@jasonmoyer I have a vb wrx as well. I can't imagine spending significantly more for a grc. Doesn't make sense.

[@SimplyTrashed]

bro said get a camaro 💀

[@jasonmoyer]

400whp, can be had for basically the same price as a WRX or GRC (sans markup), 2 seconds faster than either to 60. If I wanted to go fast in a straight line or pretend I'm some street race bro, it's what I'd get. If you want tear up a twisty backroad I'd personally rather have a WRX/GRC or a Miata/BRZ, but for people who are constantly crying about fun cars being too slow, it seems like a good deal.

[@jasonmoyer]

Yeah, 44k is a little steep for what the Circuit offers, and that's just at MSRP. I paid 36 for my Premium out the door. That's over 10 grand for similar performance and some features that don't really interest me (diff settings, drive modes). TBH, in a couple years if I want a second car I'll probably get a BRZ since it's cheap and would compliment the WRX. It would be tough to justify a GRC as a second car if I already have a WRX. And by the time you can get one at MSRP, there might be an STI.

[@Mqxwell]

@@jasonmoyer sti is deaaad

[@duffyt26]

You seriously expected 10% drivetrain loss from a PERMANENT mechanical AWD car? about 230whp in AWD mode should be it. The GR Yaris has around 20-22% drivetrain loss, as any normal oldschool Evo or STI etc. Odd numbers on the FWD test though, should be 250-260 WHP. tq/hp curves look perfectly normal. No interruption detected by the onboard systems which would cause it to drop and fluctuate lots past 5-5.5k rpm as in some other cases. Drive it for another 1k miles, it'll do a bit more.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

The car is underrated, just like the Supra, the Golf R, the CTR, the Elantra N. Go look up dynojet tests for those cars. Dynojet is the standard used by SAE, a regulatory board in the US. Not high or low reading.

[@JustDriven]

We have a great baseline for our tuning. Now to continue enjoying it and then track time!

[@carloscervantes836]

@@JustDriven You guys wouldn't have a tune planed for the Kona N would you XD

[@BasicPremium]

Did you guys get through the break in period before putting it on the dyno?

[@SSGKeo]

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[@JustDriven]

Yes we did.

[@JustDriven]

@SSGKeo thank you.

[@supernova8962]

11:57 ...Best part...she made me smiled !

[@JustDriven]

That's Alex's daughter. She makes us all smile here.

[@yourfavoritetrader1496]

91 octane is holding you back, numbers seem about right to be honest. Looks like the Veloster N is about 8-10 whp less and it has 26hp shortfall on crank, so it makes a ton of sense.

[@JustDriven]

For sure our winter blend 91 octane didn't help. Is Hyundai short changing hp numbers?

[@blevin569]

Veloster N gets between 235-245whp depending on transmission type. Elantra N gets around 270whp due to larger turbo design.

[@yourmomsfatburner6144]

@@JustDriven A couple of points in octane wont make a difference. You would have to mess with timing advance AND fuel and MAYBE get 10 Horse.

[@twococksproduction]

@@JustDriven yeah by quite a bit. DCT actually puts down more than the manual, power delivery is definitely different between the two transmissions. Dct I've seen average 275 to the wheels.

[@mathieucossette9019]

Wouldn't it better doing the dyno session after the break-in process?

[@dennisn3955]

The road trip was it

[@nicolashoyt5341]

Odometer said 627 miles

[@JustDriven]

We did the break in.

[@glockmodder]

@@JustDriven break-ins are overrated if you ask me😎

[@mathieucossette9019]

@@JustDriven ok, sorry for my rant ! really.

[@dougmaverick3287]

Can you let us all know how much adm you paid? By the way how is the ride quality?

[@JustDriven]

$5k and it handles really well. It's still in sport mode but fun.

[@dougmaverick3287]

@@JustDriven Thanks. Is the ride quality bearable or is it really really stiff? I'm asking because I bought a Ford Focus RS and the ride was so bone jarring harsh I had to sell it after only eight months. I'm hoping the ride quality of the GRC is not too harsh. I currently drive a Veloster n and that's about as firm as I can take it.

[@christopherbassit2757]

You got the same spec as me 1 month before I got mine! 💪🏽

[@JustDriven]

That's great.

[@esquared12]

240 is what I guessed based on 20% powertrain loss

[@JDMHaze]

t thought it was 15% but maybe thats for rwd

[@sonofnothing]

@@JDMHaze it's 15% fwd, probably 20% RWD and 30% awd

[@ytsux9259]

@@sonofnothing Heck no! Most fwd now has less than 10% loss, and most modern rwd has way less than 15% loss.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@@ytsux9259 In todays performance cars... you would think so, since they are all underrated for insurance purposes, etc etc. From dynoing cars, I typically have always seen 14% FWD, 17% RWD, and 20% AWD. Also, in 2006 SAE rerated all cars, because there were so many cars being overrated, and many cars from Honda and Nissan (and others) had to be rerated, and they dropped about 10hp in their ratings, with no changes. That's when you knew what the consensus was for drivetrain loss, before cars went underrated [in the past 5years, starting with the 17 CTR, the 2020 Supra, and German cars have always done it].

[@omgness1234]

That’s about where most AWD cars make rated at 300hp. Like the evo x makes about 240-250hp to the wheels

[@alexandram9477]

no markup? wow

[@copperkeyracing6167]

They paid no mark up, because that paticular car is 50hp under powered, so they are actually 14:05 reselling it.

[@Mark_5150]

@@copperkeyracing6167 They are also sponsored by Toyota, so probably dodn't have to pay the price the common folk have to :D I was looking into getting a GR, but I already have to drive to 4-1/2 hours to get a toyota without markup, I doubt even that dealer sells the GR without "market adjusted value"

[@JustDriven]

We paid some markup. With the car being sold in short supply (they have to figure out if the US market even cares about this car first) pricing is a bit high.

[@GR_FOURRARIS]

AWD drivetrain power loss is normal. Was the car even properly broken in before doing pulls?

[@JustDriven]

Yes. Yes it was.

[@gabea.458]

Of course there would be 2 GRC's at S. OC C&C one of the few weekends I don't go....Hope to catch you there soon. Can you tell me more about Unrivaled Tuning in Orange? All I could find is one in AZ. If memory serves, that looks like Apexi's shop? Just stumbled onto the channel, gave you a sub.

[@JustDriven]

Appreciate the follow! Danny (@unrivaled tuning on Instagram) works out of the Apex’I shop on the regular. Hit him up on IG for all your future tunes!

[@fullboost]

“I was really hoping it was going to be a wide quarter, I don’t think they’ve ever done that, a metal quarter and a re-skinned door that’s wider” YES, its called a GR Yaris :) The car you should have got over there...😉

[@JustDriven]

Yah, we were discussing cars here in the States. The GR Yaris is a Bespoke car compared to this. But everyone is complaining about cost numbers for a Corolla with a widebody kit never mind something built like the Yaris. haha...

[@nasonguy]

He said that exactly like 10 seconds later, lol.

[@JD86Vintage]

@@JustDriven pretty sure the GR Yaris is about $10-15k cheaper than even the base GR rolla here in Aus. So call the Yaris $7k cheaper USD than the equivalent spec GR Carolla. For perspective my Yaris cost $48k AUD. Retail for a new one is closer to $55 for the standard spec and north of $60k for the Rallye spec now. Toyota isn't moving on the retail as the small production means they're sold out for the next two years here. The "base spec" GR Carolla is expected to cost about $65-70k (I still haven't heard final aus prices) with the fancy one closer to $80k by the time you're out the door of the dealership. For those playing at home, there was an introductory offer for the first batch of Yaris's that was $40k AUD drive away. So call it $28k USD in today's exchange. Half what the full fat Carolla is going to cost here. Toyota did the deal to generate interest and get the sales up in order to sell the required numbers before the homologation date for the WRC. Silly them. Although I missed it as I initially thought "eh, it will just be another Yaris with racing stripes, big wheels and maybe a few extra horses" ...not realising what they'd actually built.

[@user-tr6fw8yo2t]

i would be furious at what these are selling at.

[@alexduey7868]

thats every car man

[@JustDriven]

Nah, we weren't expecting huge power numbers from the cute lil engine. This car feels quick on the street. It handles well too. So it'll fun to build this car up. We are very excited.

[@chicobeanieakagio7202]

Did you guys drive the entire 621 break-in miles before the dyno?

[@JustDriven]

Yup.

[@leeladharsharma5933]

Very nice

[@JustDriven]

We agree! Thank you!

[@copperkeyracing6167]

What happened to the 13:12 247hp reading and 11:42 & 12:47 comparing it to a CTR dyno? Should be about 10hp less than a CTR.

[@Lovemusic-14hard]

Who people recommend to see this vedio

[@JustDriven]

We will be doing more of a comparison later with the Type R. We've been trying to hunt one down without any luck. Worst case we will have Danny pull the numbers and share in a later video.

[@macka.rob6]

awd drivetrain loss is like 25% accorinding to online so 300hp crank minus 25% is 225hp atw so 220hp aint for off

[@JustDriven]

Yah, it's just crazy! But we are still loving this thing.

[@macka.rob6]

@@JustDriven yeah ive never been a corolla guy but this one if the first corolla id ever consider getting for sure

[@calebfitzgerald393]

A family member of mine just got a Corolla gr. Honestly just recently after about 1200 miles if feels way stronger than it did at even 600 miles. So maybe there is a power restriction until a certain mileage or the engine just needs a long break in period.

[@JustDriven]

The GR is a great little car. Your family member is going to love it. The break-in period was completed as per Toyota's guidelines.

[@052188joseph]

300hp to the crank that AWD robs alot of HP once it distributes to all 4 wheel. The HP is from the dyno is pretty reasonable.

[@JustDriven]

Regardless we love this car and it doesn't feel like it's been robbed of anything. It's very capable and fun to drive.

[@Rumnhammer]

Have you considered that it may have a nanny break in program on the ecu that will limit the power until you have more miles on the car? Also 91 octane Commifornia gas probably doesn't help either. Give it a while and retest after you have more miles on it, and get some 93 octane gas as well.

[@JustDriven]

We have done break in according to Toyota. We are also not after huge numbers. We are after a baseline to show our partners what their parts do to increase the power. We are just here to enjoy this car (it's so fun to drive) and see what the track numbers look like.

[@kenichiyt09]

apparently no one knows how to properly dyno this car. Look at some forums lol it'll save you some time

[@JustDriven]

We definitely put it in dyno mode. Both for AWD and FWD testing. We found the info from the forums.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

The car went into limp mode when it was in AWD, is the only possible conclusion, as there is no AWD dyno mode.

[@kyleryneost]

Does this have anything to do with break in period? And restrictions with bhp. The new mustang and corvette all do this

[@JustDriven]

Nope. Alex completed the break-in period.

[@gaivoron]

Could it be held back until the break in period?

[@JustDriven]

We did the break in period prior to the dyno day.

[@edarr85]

I'm pretty sure that dyno number isn't right..

[@JustDriven]

Oh it is.

[@bryanallendorf7064]

Why would it be? Factory numbers are crank bit wheels. Plus, you have crap gas.

[@edarr85]

@@bryanallendorf7064 because these cars have to be put into dyno mode..also there are several video's of them putting down 270whp

[@111222333gabe]

Limit+1s car is showing 300TQ and 295HP to the wheels. Different dyno though.

[@MrWayne__]

Hub Dyno is most accurate.

[@strifu808]

@@MrWayne__ mustang dyno went wayyy off then, no idea why though. I trust hub dynos but wtf happened to their mustang dyno that would result in such a difference lmao

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Hub dyno is a reading at the hubs which has less losses and less variables. Back to back runs they are within + or - 1/2hp, while the correct reading dyno (a dynojet) is + or - 2hp. So, yes, and, no, it is the most accurate.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@@strifu808 In general, dynapacks are high reading, and mustang dynos are low reading. Both can output conversions to the correct reading, which is dynojet. The mustang dyno test must have had the conversion to raise the numbers to dynojet results, AND that car was done in AWD mode and made 252whp and was very inconsistent since the car was fighting the dyno (Focus RS has the same issue). The next day, after they did their homework, they put it in dyno mode, which is FWD, and it put down 295, 298, and 299whp. I think the car in the vid went into limp mode from so many runs and so few miles on the engine. Not enough learning to realize everything was ok... then, they decided dyno mode was best... and it was still in limp mode🤦‍♂️

[@JustDriven]

We don't have access to different dynos so we will let others test their GRs and we can all check them out and compare!

[@mohammedsawood3556]

One of 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@JustDriven]

🚒

[@ecjaye]

I live in So OC I still have yet to see a GR Corolla in the wild. I waiting (2 or 3 years from now) on the circuit edition. That's a tough one to find.

[@JustDriven]

That Circuit edition might be pretty difficult. We would have loved the carbon options it offers but didn't want to wait. We have some fun things planned for this one.

[@herewegoagain7403]

why are you guys shocked about those numbers?? It's a 3 Banger! impressive results

[@JustDriven]

We were just expecting a little higher that's all. We are loving this car though!

[@FFWrench]

I’m betting it needs 500-2000 miles before full power is allowed. It’s too new

[@BasicPremium]

Exactly what I was thinking. They said that there’s a break in period but didn’t mention whether or not they surpassed that.

[@mazdaspeedg2380]

Yeah most likely like the new c8 won’t rev past a certain amount till you reach the Break in period

[@dylanneal6363]

Also a oil change. To get the metal out of the oil from the break in process. You'd be surprised how much dirty oil hurts dyno numbers.

[@JustDriven]

We exceeded the break in milage (according to Toyota) and flushed fluids before dyno pulls and again after. We are not new to this process. All our cars get treated with kid gloves.

[@gaivoron]

Mhh it's possible that the car is really tuned for 93 octane and maybe there is a break in period restriction, either way it's definitely odd that it didn't make more to the wheels. This performance is similar to the WRX VA with similar power and weight. The performance is about right 0-60 sprint in 5.5sec without rollout and quarter in the 13sec with about 100mph.

[@JustDriven]

There's no factory limited break-in restriction we're aware of. Anyone know more, please let us know!

[@frankom1528]

mine in red in south fl was sticker $40.481.- +5g over msrp ! Q: how much over msrp was yours ??

[@JustDriven]

Yah, we are right around there for ours!

[@copperkeyracing6167]

These are by far, the lowest numbers anyone has made. Highest reading, and the only one done in dyno mode so far, is 298whp, which was done on a mustang dyno. Done by Limit+1 on YT.

[@Vermonstered]

Do you know the difference between whp and at the crank HP? There's no way the GR Corolla is making 298whp. That would mean it's making in the realm of 350-375 to the crank and the car is slow as mud if it's pushing 375 crank HP. It's just some random correction factor limit+1 put into the figures vs actual to the ground power shown here.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@@Vermonstered Ask yourself that same question... and after you read and understand what I wrote carefully... then, find out how much power the 335hp rated 2020 Supra puts down... let me help you, 340whp. Let me also help you on what dyno mode is. Dyno mode is a setting that puts the car so that there is no fighting with the dyno, and puts the car in fwd mode. Yes, in dyno mode it made 295fwhp. 298fwhp, and 299fwhp, back to back runs. When he did not have it in dyno mode, it made 252awhp with the fighting with the dyno. This is the same exact issue with the Focus RS. Welcome to modern day underrated cars, and modern day all wheel drive systems. It's more like 340hp at the crank in fwd mode (14% loss is typical in FWD), but has more losses in AWD mode (20% is typical in AWD, and thus is not as fast from a roll in AWD.... had he raced the competitors in FWD mode, it would probably be 3cars faster, which would tie a CTR... which is also about 335hp, but underrated and 70lbs lighter. Limit +1 did not use a correction factor like you speak of, go ask him. It's a Mustang Dyno, and he's as dumbfounded of the results as you are.

[@Vermonstered]

@@copperkeyracing6167 😂 You're always good for a laugh. Now after you come back down to Earth after attempting to inflate your ego and trying to live up to the story you already wrote in your head because that's how personal you take the GR Corolla... maybe listen... 1) This isn't a Supra with a BMW B58 motor in it. Don't compare it to it, and Toyota doesn't even get the spicest version of the B58. This motor doesn't hold a candle to the B58 in regards to how BMW or most German companies now rate their cars at whp and not crank horsepower. 2) "Dyno mode" isn't magic and every dyno has correction factors available to output onto the dyno plot. This is where you add in factors like barometric pressure, temperature to try and correct against a standard. Be it SAE or even yes, power at the crankshaft estimation. Even in the comments the owner states they turned on the test mode and even in the video they do runs in FWD test mode. 3) "Welcome to modern day underrated cars, and modern day all wheel drive systems." Your guesstimates for FWD and AWD drivetrains are VERY optimistic. You're simply regurgitating what someone else told you. Real life? Closer to 15-20% for FWD, 20-25% RWD and unsurpsurprisingly (well except for you) AWD has the most with the most wheels driven is 20-28% loss. If we assume the motor, which was put into FWD test mode, obviously as they tested it as FWD, output 242hp which equates to 19% drivetrain loss for a drive mode that it's not optimized for assuming 300 crank hp goals, 282hp if we take your idealistic loss guess - Entirely within expectation. 4) "It's more like 340hp at the crank in fwd mode" Your math is off. It's closer to what I stated earlier, anywhere from 350-370whp even if we use your idealistic powertrain losses. Please tell me a car with this much power and weighs just over 3200lbs that can only trap at 101mph? Elantra N traps at 103.9. The real world 280-290 crank horsepower of the last generation Subaru WRX STi in a car 200-300 lbs heavier traps at 101mph. Again, I know you're all about writing some story in your head but again no, real world data shows this car doesn't make the amount of power a guy who's posting for clicks says it does. 5) AGAIN - you're showing you don't know the difference between whp and crank hp. A car with 300whp and is 3200lb doesn't accelerate this slow. You need to remove the 'racing' from your name as you obviously have no racing or tuning pedigree.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@@Vermonstered Wall of text. I'm not reading that. Please drive through.

[@Vermonstered]

@@copperkeyracing6167 To your own wall of text addressing your points. Since you're TL:DR when you make your own... 298whp for a 3200lb car doesn't trap at 101mph.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

3:41 That's not the turbo, thats the belt driven [battery] SuperCharger or SuperGenerator depending where your from.

[@JustDriven]

Oh! We were so close.

[@dr.allanlopezhernandez3400]

Great deal!! How to avoid the dealer charge up to the msrp?

[@takaradope]

They still got marked up a bit

[@BungHoleCamper]

Once the recession digs-in, dealers will be starving.

[@JustDriven]

We paid some over MSRP. It is the way of the world. And after driving it for a little bit it's worth the money!

[@shashankjoshi1745]

Great 🎉🎉

[@JustDriven]

Thanks 😄

[@selotuyo9562]

Im so glad I passed, I was about to pay 45,000 for this Corolla, glad I did not!

[@markessa8755]

Trust me these cars are jems, there’s something wrong with the dyno or it just needs to be broken in although I wouldn’t pay over msrp for anything

[@selotuyo9562]

@Mark Essa yea they trying to charge me over 10,000 dollars, plus taxes just imagine

[@selotuyo9562]

@Mark Essa I need up getting the corolla 2022 se manual, not fast but the price and the way it looks got me

[@SoFarFromCrust]

Car is beautiful, and it handles amazing. Plus....three pedals and a real e brake. I'm happy with mine.

[@JustDriven]

This car is beyond fun. Did you get a chance to drive it before you passed on it?

[@ahasanoojzaman]

The real dyno... Coool

[@JustDriven]

This had lower numbers than we expected, but do not let this deter you from looking at this car. It is so much fun to drive!

[@fullboost]

Power figure seems about right.

[@JustDriven]

Surprised us all!

[@shivrajmanek-ou4do]

Nice 👍

[@JustDriven]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@coreyhickman9082]

Yo did you see mike at that car event haha good stuff guys

[@JustDriven]

Maybe?

[@6kunio8]

I could be remembering something else or maybe just my imagination, but I vaguely remember something about a setting you can set that gimps the engine during the "break in" period... Although I can't find anything about it at the moment...

[@JustDriven]

We did the break in on the car already. It's good to go.

[@6kunio8]

@@JustDriven Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you didn't break it in, but if there was some sort of safety setting that was still on. But I cannot find any info on what I'm thinking about, maybe I'm just mistaking it for something else or just imagined it. Please disregard, I might be going crazy or something lol

[@esquared12]

You can send those roof racks here! I'll need em for mine when I come in lol

[@JustDriven]

We aren't selling them just yet.

[@__Boba_]

7:55 the 86 chillin

[@JustDriven]

Right? So sick.

[@jetblackcoopers]

The Dynapack at Apex'i reads low. I know this because I've had the same car dyno'd there and at a separate shop in Lake Forest back to back on the same day, both Dynapacks. That being said, the dyno at Apex'i was one of the first Dynapacks in the US and is running on their very first calibration. it reads about ~15-20% lower than other Dynapacks. Church's in Wilmington reads a bit optimistic, about 5-7% over.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Church reads about 8% over from my experience. For example, stock fk8 CTR reads 316hp there, and on a dynojet, which is the correct reading dyno according to SAE, the regulatory board in the US... the dynojet reads 290whp for an fk8.

[@JustDriven]

Despite the sad numbers we at least have a base to work off of. All our numbers will be run through the Apex'i dyno so we can see the numbers change over time and after our partners start handing in their parts.

[@ck17350]

@@JustDriven This is really the only important thing. Sure, the real numbers are nice to know but not really useful for tuning. You just gotta stick with the same dyno and you're good.

[@StackBundle]

Dyno'd a Volvo v70r with the 5 speed auto (yes the AWD functioned). 300 crank HP and it put down about 220-225 at the wheels - this was with 200k miles on the engine. I'd think with this car having a manual that definitely has less drivetrain loss it should have been around 230-240awhp. Also I just noticed this is a hub dyno and those usually read slightly higher anyway. You may need a few hundred more miles on the break in or maybe you were running it in too low of a gear. Also probably losing a few hp running 91 instead of 93. Not sure how much of a difference the gas would make though.

[@JustDriven]

Tell us more about this V70R.

[@StackBundle]

@@JustDriven Nothing more to say really. Stock 04 V70R.

[@vishS14]

Toyota T18 Celica had a metal widebody version on on the Carlos Sainz and the st185 model

[@JustDriven]

Dang. This is two cars James didn't think of on the spot. What an idiot he is!

[@TANKSINATRA289]

How do you feel with 3 cilinder?

[@JustDriven]

It feels more torquey than it should. But it's not mind boggling just lots of fun!

[@TANKSINATRA289]

@@JustDriven And what about the change? I heard that it is very robust, but the ratio looks a bit long. Is it losing a little too much between one gear?

[@JustDriven]

We spent some time at the track this weekend. Maybe some more will be revealed there?

[@CodyC2009]

Fn nice

[@JustDriven]

Fn agree!

[@ajmartinez4929]

No mark up? Or was the 500 ?

[@JustDriven]

There was some markup.

[@dhorpatanonline6763]

Nice

[@JustDriven]

Thanks!

[@hardcoreep]

It's offset to make sure you don't get tagged speeding.

[@JustDriven]

Oh it's not offset enough for that and us!

[@tenkayruanaya2554]

where is this dyno located in Orange county ? i wanna try my Elantra N

[@JustDriven]

Unrivaled Tuning is located in Orange (like the video shows).

[@Doggepp]

The yaris does indeed have steel(metal) quarters "real" widebody. a-pillars>side of the roof and quarters are metal, as well as front fenders. Hood, doors and trunk are aluminum, roof carbon.

[@JustDriven]

Yah, James mentions it's more of a Bespoke car than this. This is essentially a Corolla with a wide body kit added.

[@g0d182]

How did it compare to fk8 or fl5?

[@JustDriven]

We have this information coming in a later video. We wanted ones tuned for the same track we are tuning ours for.

[@g0d182]

@@JustDriven Thanks

[@jonathonhutton2430]

My Rav 4 is off on the speedo as well, 3-4 mph.

[@JustDriven]

Crazy? We thought maybe it was Toyota's way of helping us not get speeding tickets!

[@JohnColeman-ul5rj]

19% power loss in FWD mode and a 28% power loss in AWD mode. Not unrealistic. This car is not an SRT-4 where they advertised 230hp and 250tq then you dyno it and that's what it puts to the ground. GM tends to do the same under rating the power only to find out that the engine has more and the specs are close to whp. Cool car, and I want one, but with the markups, are going to keep the sale numbers low. Ill pick one up later when they are at a reasonable price.

[@JustDriven]

Yah, we were clearly expecting much higher numbers. The fun factor despite the numbers is still there ten fold. The markups might be to keep up with low production numbers. We were happy to get our hands on one. And also happy to support companies still making manual/pertrol cars in a world where EV is on the tongues of everyone.

[@tonymunn]

The greatest part of this video is at 11:57! Adorable! Reminds me of my grandaughter. Great editing to include her. Brightened my day.

[@JustDriven]

She really is adorable. We love her. Glad we could bring some light into your day.

[@drkchocolatguy]

Did you pay over MSRP? They asking for 12.5k here.

[@JustDriven]

We did. It wasn't too bad and despite the power numbers we love it. It is beyond fun to drive.

[@jayholm2142]

The question is, how hard is it to get a brand new 2023 Toyota? I heard there are 3m people waiting for new Toyota's.

[@JustDriven]

Well, we had someone from Toyota contact us when they had someone back out of their purchase. Didn't require much work on our part.

[@CL-yp1bs]

The speedometer is a corolla thing. My 2019 Corolla SE is 3-4mph off in the same direction. I never get a speeding ticket. LOL

[@JustDriven]

Maybe we need to crank our deficit up! Let's say 20 mph under? Then maybe we could stay out of trouble.

[@jdmbren13]

That trd fj was crazy lol

[@JustDriven]

We have a full build series on it. Including the electric roll down rear windows.

[@khaidude]

Hahahaha ayyy it’s the boys! Tell the Apexi guys and Rival gang I said what’s up!! I was actually thinking about trading my IS in for a GR rolla😅 this is interesting

[@JustDriven]

We will! You should come out with the IS next time we go out.

[@theanimeotaku2794]

The advertised horsepower for that car is 300 @6,000 RPM at the crank I assume so times that by 20% because of gear reduction and it should be like 240 HP I guess your engine still need to be broken in since it's down 20 HP or something is being restricted

[@JustDriven]

We did the break in per Toyota. We did this more for a baseline or our tuning partners than to break records.

[@HighIQuit]

it's a cool car just need 220hp more and it's good

[@JustDriven]

Heck yeah!

[@TainoSurfer03]

Did he say they going to put it in marketplace?

[@JustDriven]

He was kidding! We are going to modify and track test this. The build will have multiple partners coming on board with parts.

[@jalloor]

Did you pay a markup?

[@JustDriven]

Markup on new and hard to get cars is the way of things and has been for a while. We paired a fair enough markup. The car is worth it.

[@adanmendoza7517]

Why didn't you guys pull up the type R dyno graph?

[@JustDriven]

We are going to talk about this in a future video. Alex mentions it but he wanted to find something tuned for the same track we will be testing at. It'll give us a good base to tune our build on.

[@adanmendoza7517]

@@JustDriven were you guys at Buttonwillow yesterday the 29th?

[@JustDriven]

Yes we were!