Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar America’s “Perfect Family” Deep Dive

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Welcome to the visual version of my podcast. In this video we take a deep look into the background of Jim Bob and how he and Michelle fell in love. She was an immpressionable teenager who had just discovered God while he had been praying for a wife since he was a young boy. Let's take a look into the "good side" and how they made America fall in love with them.
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[@betheecommentator]

Watch Part Two Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnmrf6uLed-djbs

[@SteveCarras]

You tend to have way more on the family than your playlist on them has! Binge enjoying this!

[@gailsfone1]

❤❤

[@SavvvyGhost]

has nobody specifically mentioned how ironic it is that they denounced television because it was too tempting yet they had a whole television show centered around their lives??!?

[@mariec3527]

Yup 😒 very hypocritical if they were firm in there beliefs They wouldn't of agreed to be on TV yet they say it was to bring " Christ into others homes " 🙄 It was mostly for money but I believe it was possibly to convert people

[@jeanni7129]

Thank you! I thought the same thing.

[@bethkeady7025]

If you look hypocrisy up in the dictionary, Jim bob and Michelles picture is listed

[@helenfong3339]

@@bethkeady7025 LOL

[@MizFit60]

Very good point.

[@jmarie7330]

So she has fond childhood memories, not having to do chores, playing outside just being a kid. but then has girls of her own and does the opposite… birthing her own children into indentured servitude & depriving them of the very things that brought here such joy?? mom of the year right there

[@spa-peggymeatballs4861]

That hurt to hear her saying that.. with zero sense of irony. They are the destroyers of that “innocence” they seem to be so obsessed with preserving.

[@nancybrown2609]

Michelle is hard to figure out. Her voice comes across so insincere. It’s like she’s trying to act like she’s a Christian. It’s not naturally flowing out of her. Contrived is the only word I can think of

[@HopeGardner3amed]

apparently mom of the year multiple years over in fundie circles.

[@DeereIsaiah]

@@nancybrown2609 They are taught as women to “keep sweet”..that’s likely not her natural speaking voice. From a young age (if born into the religion) girls are taught that they must speak with a sweet higher pitched demure voice. There’s a documentary about it is on Amazon

[@heyyou9313]

@@nancybrown2609 yes and what she says also just sounds like she is repeating what JB says to her. He definitely took advantage of her when she was a new Christian and used that to manipulate her in to who she is today

[@ladyv5655]

So Michelle blames JB's sins on his father? Using that logic, JB is to blame for Josh's crimes.

[@betheecommentator]

Interesting point thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@bunnyboops8875]

That part was such underhanded nastiness because he wasn't a Bible thumper.

[@merricat3025]

Sins of the father. In Josh case they are a bunch of hypocrites. Geez they are hypocrites about everything

[@khaleesireyna731]

Of course not. You see, JB is a God-fearing Christian and therefore, he could never have influenced/encouraged Josh's behavior in any way (even tho he probably did by ignoring it). Rules for thee, not for me is the standard and part of why I think these kinds of fundamentalist Christian groups need to be called out as the threat they are. They can dress it up pretty, but when you get to the heart of it, they're fine with creating something out of The Handmaid's Tale.

[@LisaKoffler]

Deanna did the same thing - 3 generations of "sinners!"

[@karina6135]

i hate that this family has had a history of calling out other people for their “ungodly” behavior but whenever they are rightfully called out for what occurred in their family they turn around and say “well we never claimed to be perfect”

[@lolas185]

To be fair no Christian does claim perfect personal virtue.In fact Christians hold the opposite beleif that they in fact "... fallen short Of God's glory" and that is the very reason they need God. As to calling out others shortcomings when one doe not live up to those standards personally , well that is hypocrisy and we are all guilty of that at one time or another. It could be argued that pointing out anothers hypocrisy is hipocrisy in itself. And I should know being an imperfect person .

[@karina6135]

@@lolas185 i see your point but i meant this in the sense of like, michelle duggar doing robocalls where she called trans people predators while simultaneously covering up what her son did to her daughters

[@Monkeyvr1223]

They do not represent Christian values then as they have always been very quick to judge and accuse. I’m thinking the robo call….

[@parkees]

@karina !!! I understood what you were saying and I agree. I've previously been around various church groups because of my work and they were the most deviant, hypocritical and reprehensible people I've ever met. It's sickening and the hypocrisy is unreal. Fundamentalists seem obsessed with s*x and "sinful" behaviour. I don't trust any of it.

[@Iron678Maiden]

Their whole show is just look how amazing we are

[@Nille0212]

I love how you just get straight to the point, without a 5 minute introduction.

[@Nille0212]

@@betheecommentator no, thank you! I don't have to fast forward through unnecessary fluff to get to the reason why I wanted to watch the video in the 1st place. ♥️♥️♥️

[@heiroot]

@@betheecommentator me too!

[@lorrilewis2178]

Boy, do I hear you. I really hate long intros.

[@terryKessler42719]

You cannot get pregnant while on birth control pills. Plus, the pill does not cause a miscarriage. This is their excuse for having so many kids.

[@Banana-lk7tf]

Same!

[@JoAndGetFat]

Michelle’s whispery voice and huge expressionless eyes are something out of a Stephen King novel

[@LisaKoffler]

I can only wonder if she acted in plays while growing up!

[@sherrynusbaum5913]

Right out of a Steven King novel is correct 💯

[@LisaKoffler]

I can only wonder how Stephen King would react to a family like this!

[@brookebailey4330]

😂😂 this is too funny and so true!

[@breezy6859]

Her sister came out and said her and Michelle used to be close. Her sister is a lesbian and since Michelle has been with Jim Bob the molester she doesn’t talk to her family anymore. I always say Michelle as a woman who made a huge mistake and is stuck. She’s been brainwashed. As a woman it’s my bad judgment call when I feel sympathy for other women like Michelle. She looks dead in her eyes and she always has. She looks devoid of any emotion especially with her children. You can see it. Her face to me says “eww I fucked up.” Then after it came out that Josh molested his sisters and Michelle basically victim blamed her daughters I knew she was to far gone. It made me physically sick seeing her daughters trying to justify Josh’s disgusting behavior in that interview. I just wanted to hug them all and reassure them it wasn’t their faults. Michelle failed protecting her daughters from her predator son. Let’s keep it a buck what Josh did is a learned behavior. Someone taught him that and I believe it was Jim Bob who did. I can’t prove it but it’s a gut feeling. I tried holding out hope for Michelle but she’s so god damned brainwashed she’ll never come out of it. I weep for Michelle as well even though I shouldn’t because she’s spoken ill about her lesbian sister and family and I’m a lesbian myself.

[@signedbycarla5955]

Crazy thing is, you can tell that Michelle and Jim Bob are an actual love match. And it’s a damn shame that they didn’t afford their children the same opportunity. Smh so y’all can go on dates and be all giddy at the yogurt shop but your kids don’t get anything but awkward “volleyball nights”

[@betheecommentator]

Lol wow that’s a great observation I didn’t even think of that, and they kissed prior to marriage

[@julieneild4505]

@@betheecommentator They said during an interview that's the only thing they regret. SUUURRRE!!!😒

[@pattyo4703]

It's really too bad she had that miscarriage, because they seem to have viewed it as a punishment from God. Then they went nuts with Michelle popping out a baby or two for over 20 years!

[@julieneild4505]

@Gail Miller I don't really think there IS help for those sickos. Their brains are wired differently.

[@pattyo4703]

God also gives us freewill. If we breed like rabbits, that's not on God.

[@junejunejuniejune]

I always wondered why Jimboob and Michelle favored Josh. It didn't make sense to me because in my culture, the eldest child is always held with greater responsibility and expectations. It makes total sense now, knowing he was the only child for the first few years, where as his other sibblings barely had room inbetween to bond with the parents. They really really bonded with Josh, have a stronger emotional attachment and idealize a version of him they remember in their found young days of newly being married. Imagine remembering the beautiful lovely newly wed days, and seeing those memories under the lens of the realization that the person who your child became was a monster. But their attitude towards accommodating him, appeasing him, never holding him responsible has made him who he is today, a man in jail for CSAM. I don't think they will ever admit this.

[@1rage17]

Jimboob 😭😭😭😭

[@LisaKoffler]

"Jim Boob" and Michelle favored Josh, because he's the oldest and the first-born son, which is NOT unusual in patriarchal environments! Because of their parents' stupidity, ALL 19 children are having more problems as adults - especially Josh!

[@kellysowhat88]

My parents also come from roughly that generation and a kind of conservative background, also white, I think there is something about the first child being a son. Carrying on your family name, projecting that they’ll be like the dad, it’s the first baby so it’s the first time they experience parenthood, like you said they spent the most time alone with him. I believe they had him on a pedestal.

[@lisagilleland4977]

Ten Easy Steps to Creating a Narcissist, by Jim Bob & Michelle Duggar

[@jenniferstuart1473]

Makes sense

[@bookreader7108]

As a survivor of sa multiple times from 3 to 12 years of age I always wondered why....then it dawned on me. I was the unwanted child....they knew no one cared what happened to me. I am now 70 and it still hurts that my parents did not care enough to protect me. Jim Bob should be ashamed for what he did! It will stay with Josh's victims for a long time. Thank you for your channel. I love watching your videos even if I am an old woman... Bless you ❤

[@betheecommentator]

I am so sorry you went through that and I’m sure there’s nothing I could say to make the pain go away. Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to share your experience and further provide awareness and insight for us. You are loved! Thank you so much ❤️

[@bookreader7108]

I have never shared that on any platform before but I felt this was a safe place to do it. Thank you for your kindness.

[@jenncece5858]

@@bookreader7108 Much love, support, and peace to and for you. What a strong person you are to share your story ❤

[@bookreader7108]

Only thru Gods grace....thank you for your kind words ❤

[@mariec3527]

I can totally relate and I'm so sorry you went through that and hope you're in a better place 💗

[@Marinlss]

It's so sad how Michelle was obviously overwhelmed and couldn't handle all their kids, but instead of stopping she made her oldest daughters sister-moms. If you do another part there's a scene when Josie has a seizure, the parents aren't home and Jana is the one to handle everything (with support from the recording crew), you can see she's terrified. By a point in the show is obvious she's the one who raised the youngest kids, even her closest sisters see her as an authority.

[@marwatson7408]

I remember that episode with all of Josie’s medical issues I think she was prone to seizures at that time and her so called parents weren’t even there for her , these girls raised the young siblings.

[@karenmathews900]

@@betheecommentator Michelle doesn't deserve respect: she had too many kids to take care of, parentified the daughters, and didn't protect them from sex abuse.

[@jenzen9041]

I think is why Jana has not married. She’s already raised a bunch of kids! If she gets married, she’ll have to start raising kids all over again.

[@sara-os5yz]

@@jenzen9041 That’s exactly why. None of the younger girls are even adults yet.

[@susanjohnston8973]

There was a scene in an airport where Jackson got lost and when he was found he ran to Jana for comfort instead of Michelle.

[@savannadoe1075]

That whispery voice of Michelle’s is like nails on a chalkboard. I’m so glad this family has been exposed but I’m sorry to the sisters and other girls involved that had to endure harm in order for the world to truly see the monsters Jim Bob and his wife are.

[@hannahbush9952]

YOU ARE SO RIGHT!! That voice is chilling and sooooo annoying!!!

[@HeythereHelena]

She is trying her hardest to be soft and feminine lol

[@aroundphoenixaz7463]

Yeah its annoying and creepy at the same time.

[@sararao8429]

And Michelle wasn't raised this way makes it more cringe

[@pattyo4703]

After listening to this well researched presentation, I do have a level of sympathy for Michelle which I will never have for Jim Bob. Michelle went from a nice, normal life to what turned into a nightmare, IMO. Her parents did seem to overindulge her a bit. Michelle didn't cook, didn't clean, didn't have much for responsibilities etc. Jim Bob got a hold of her and in a sense her life got ruined. Jim Bob's religious fanatasism took over her life. I think he wanted her and drew her in with the religious talk. I think she did fall in love with him, to her detriment. If Michelle would have married a nice, regular guy and had 2 or 3 kids, imagine how different her life could have been. Now Michelle is known worldwide for producing a monster of a son. I think Jim Bob putting Josh on a pedestal (and buying him all those computers where I think he first discovered the p-rn he got so addicted to) had more to do with formulating the monster than Michelle's actions did. Michelle had so many kids that she became a neglectful mother, IMO. The neglect and lack of proper supervision also seemed to contribute to Josh's predatory behavior. But I think the beginning was getting his sick ideas from the Internet. I think Jim Bob probably does love Michelle, but look what he did as the "leader" of their family. No woman should have 19 children. It literally endangered her life. If they are so against the pill other methods could have been used. One method is very cheap and can be purchased at the drug store. Obviously no chance in the world that Jim Bob would have taken responsibility for b.c. or ever used it. The story of this family is very sad and I hope others can learn from it. If it can turn even one family away from the sick IBLP lifestyle, this story is worth telling. Thank you for your hard work on this documentary.

[@vanessasagastume1140]

How ironic, Michelle was a cheerleader and went to public high school- too bad her own daughters didn’t have the same experiences.

[@missdanae1992]

Exactly 💯

[@LisaKoffler]

Michelle wore "normal" clothes while growing up, but she didn't allow her own children to do the same thing!

[@elieminam4749]

@@LisaKoffler Her daughters also wear "normal" clothes...

[@LisaKoffler]

Elie Minam, I read that they needed their husbands' permission to do that, and I'm thankful they did!

[@elieminam4749]

@@LisaKoffler I meant that her daughters wearing skirts does not constitute "abnormal" dress; dresses are also considered "normal" for women to wear

[@danderson8431]

The hypocrisy of banning television while allowing yourself to be filmed for television is just glaring.

[@Dulcimertunes]

I thought I was the only who tapped into that!

[@LisaKoffler]

The Duggars aren't the only family that does that! Some famous people do that with their own children!

[@kathrynsimpson8756]

My fav part of this video is Jim Bob actually being able to save for a down payment while working at a grocery store and it didn't take him more than 10 years xD

[@betheecommentator]

Lol

[@annemirelieantoine3420]

Can’t do that anymore in 2022 😭

[@mariec3527]

That wouldn't be possible at all anymore

[@LisaKoffler]

That was possible in the 1890s-1900s.

[@southerngirl4076]

That part stood out to me too. That must have been nice.

[@Ash-ci4pn]

Crazy part is… they did some of the most innocent childhood things and were made to feel like they were these major sinners that needed to give their lives to god for forgiveness. So toxic and sad. Meanwhile their child a whole sex offender 🤧

[@betheecommentator]

That’s a great point

[@taylors445]

That was the thing I hated about my Christian upbringing. Literally being shamed over trivial and childish mistakes. Making myself sick with such guilt and anxiety that I couldn’t sleep at night as a toddler. All of that for just lying to my very angry and emotionally abusive ex aunt about who kicked a ball into a rose bush. I can’t imagine why these acts are used to make the children think they have committed the ultimate sin. Children who cannot grasp that their small mistakes do not effect the rest of their lives. This along with Sunday school teachers telling us we were going to hell and a whole host of sexual misconduct on the part of certain church leaders. Luckily my parents left the church in my middle school years. Haven’t gone to a church since.

[@emmaphilo4049]

That's so sad😭😭😭😭

[@LisaKoffler]

There's NOTHING "Christian" about being shamed for "normal" behavior!

[@persia888]

Totally! Michelle became a Christian coz she thought she was going to hell for stealing from a woman. So she must have been Christian already to even believe in hell. It was all motivated by fear. It’s so warped.

[@lisahill7032]

I fear the atrocities that have not yet been revealed from this family. Under the guise of faithfulness they've denied their children the tools needed to protect themselves. Having suffered parentification myself, this particular abuse is really hard to watch. It's really hard as an adult when you have not been taught to have boundaries, to care for yourself, to always give beyond exhaustion for the sake of others. I certainly hope, especially the daughters are able to find more balance and are in healthier relationships than what they were exposed to growing Up.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for your comment

[@GoldenXBoots]

Exactly this! I hope their daughters learn that prioritising yourself and your own needs is not selfish. I'm sorry to hear this happened to you in your childhood. 💛

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

Yes. Enmeshment. And emotional incest.

[@barbieblues7639]

Ugh. I know exactly how that (parentification/emotional incest) is :( it really is horrible

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

@@barbieblues7639 Ikr! It's like.... what the actual f🤬k is with that? It's bizarre, I just can't... 😣

[@anakreyszig303]

Their teen romance is so sweet. How sad that it became warped into something so entirely sickening.

[@LisaKoffler]

They joined Bill Gothard's IBLP cult instead of a REAL church, and that was their worst mistake!

[@CantFightTheNarwhals]

@@LisaKoffler no you’re so right bc they really could have been amazing advocates for modern Christianity if they literally chose any other kind of church

[@LisaKoffler]

Haunted and Cynical, ALL cults are FAKE! It's easy to know the difference by listening to the different preachers, and if they say and do ANYTHING that's abusive, it's a cult! REAL churches show unconditional love, acceptance, and understanding! Jim Bob himself used to belong to his mother's REAL church before he and Michelle joined Bill Gothard's IBLP cult, and the way they teach about love is absolutely disgusting!

[@jaybee4118]

@@LisaKoffler”real” church is just the cults that didn’t die out. That’s why there’s so many different ones that all have at least subtle differences.

[@LisaKoffler]

Jay Bee, "subtle differences?" I don't think so, because I learned that cults are called "offshoots" of REAL religious faiths, and ALL religions have cults, including my own faith, Judaism! Cults SAY they respect God, but they don't, because they're owned and run by MEN instead of God Himself! As humans, we can develop "warped" ideas on how we think life should be, and Bill Gothard, Warren Jeffs, and the late David Koresh are perfect examples of that! Cults can also LITERALLY kill their members, and that's the most heinous sin! REAL churches expel members, but they don't take lives!

[@matthewhodge641]

I don’t understand why Michelle didn’t provide this same ideal childhood to her own children. It’s not possible to properly care for 20 children. I don’t understand how JB could have grown up so poor and still wanted this many children. Both of them need therapy.

[@beckydane2126]

And the children.

[@LisaKoffler]

Michelle had 21 children in all - one miscarriage, and one stillbirth. I've asked myself why Jim Bob and Michelle joined a cult and became overly-fanatical about religion, along with Jim Bob wanting a supersize family, whether they had money or not!

[@911dips5]

Cause she is busy covering for her husbands hidden secret

[@LisaKoffler]

911 Dips, everyone has "hidden" secrets, and MOST of them come out sooner or later - especially sinister ones!

[@meganaustin8153]

I have always hated the Duggars especially when they were 17 kids and counting. I have a memory on my Facebook from eight years ago saying,”Do the Duggars creep anyone else out?” I felt good knowing my gut was right and this family is terrible. Great job as always Be!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching and supporting! I appreciate it soooo much!

[@elizabethmccready]

I had the same gut feeling when their show first came out and everyone else was obsessed. Even as a kid, I just knew deep down they were full of it. It's always the sickly sweet ones that are terrible people.

[@merricat3025]

I watched one part of one episode and was disgusted by this family. I thought Jim Bob was creepy and Michelle was just dumping those kids off on our own children to raise. The episode I saw Michelle was pregnant and so was Anna. I thought to myself who watches his stuff.

[@LisaKoffler]

Ever since Josh's crimes became public knowledge, I KNEW that Jim Bob and Michelle would think they failed as parents! What could they expect when they didn't handle the situation properly by calling the police the very first time it happened!

[@hottleggs1]

You’re better them me…I completely fell for their BS.

[@mariaquiet6211]

Michelle always catches me a little off guard. Those wide open, fixated eyes and that voice. It's like everything she says is a coded message to her home planet. I should expect it by now but I can't get used to it.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching and it is definitely hard to hear and watch

[@mariaquiet6211]

@@betheecommentator I love your voice, BTW. You can make the darkest topics relaxing.

[@ASMRR3N33]

🤣😂🤣😂... right

[@sekichdawn3913]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sekichdawn3913]

@@mariaquiet6211 I enjoy listening to her voice as well.

[@sedonarose7563]

I almost made it to the 20 minute mark. But I’ve had to repress gagging too many times… y’all! Fundamentalist Christianism, Michelle’s voice, Jim Bob’s name, JB saying “I want to be her spiritual leader” (that sentiment elicited the strongest gag reflex). I am grateful every single day I escaped fundamentalist Christian. Praise be!

[@LisaKoffler]

You were lucky! The IBLP cult is FAKE Christianity, and they don't allow divorce, but a few of her siblings divorced and remarried, along with choosing "authentic" and more lenient branches of the Baptist Faith! I only wished that Anna could have followed right behind them!

[@faithtinywishes8232]

I was in a cult like baptist church as a kid. I’m lucky my parents moved to a church that actually taught loving Christian values. Everything about the Duggar case sounds more like a cult than a church and that’s SCARY

[@LisaKoffler]

Faith Tiny Wishes, you were EXTREMELY lucky that your parents learned the difference between a cult and a REAL church! The Duggars are part of Bill Gothard's IBLP cult, which itself is FAKE Christianity!

[@weehoo_bananas]

"I stood in the doorway and prayed that she would be mine" See this is the fundamental problem I have with relationships like this. You are looking for another person to own and command, not a partner to share life with on an equal foundation

[@grammylisa1]

Exactly! Jim Boob knew she would be easy to manipulate.

[@FlowerItzel18]

He was just a horny teenager who was looking for a girl to make her his own and have sex repeatedly with, and it shows…

[@nylenyap3933]

This is the most hypocritical couple. They fault the grandfather for his sins, but not once accept responsibility of Josh and his sins!!!

[@betheecommentator]

That’s a great point

[@LisaKoffler]

Don't forget Jim Bob! He sinned, too!

[@911dips5]

And they use Scripture to blame people. Which is even worse.

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

"Because my father didn't have a spiritual focus, it caused a lot of problems in our family." That aged like milk. That "Thank you Michelle" montage was hilarious (and weird).

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching and I completely agree lol

[@okoala62]

Right?! What’s their excuse with THEIR family?! 🤨

[@intorainbowzOG]

Cough go get a stable J.O.B. instead of chasing dreams when your kids are hungry. cough

[@melinehhacopians1184]

Omg your name! Best ever!!!!

[@Marinlss]

Also if you watch their TV show they always acted like his father was an amazing man who provided and was there for his family.

[@MsVal1986]

Wow! The storytelling, the editing, the narration. You’re truly gifted!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much!! ❤️❤️

[@MAA77723]

I agree with this comment!!

[@RealPumpkinJay]

The way that Jim-Bob looks down at Michelle while she is talking is freaky for me.

[@betheecommentator]

Really? I have to go back and see, I never noticed

[@RealPumpkinJay]

@@betheecommentator At 3:39 and following he has some glances in there that are just uncomfortable for me for some reason.

[@eileenbauer4601]

I have followed the Duggars since their show was on, and then followed Josh’s arrest, trial and sentencing. I have listened to hours of background on the Duggars. I was so happy to see you had produced your own presentation on the Duggars. As always, you’re thorough, compassionate, and stick to facts. Another great job Bee!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for your compliment. There’s so much Duggar content out there and I’m glad I’ve been able to add to the conversation. I’ve learned a lot from this topic so I’m glad you’ve also enjoyed it ❤️

[@rebeccam1713]

The thing that made me sad (as someone who volunteered at an orphanage in Ecuador in college and has spent years working with kids) is that once got up to around the 10 kids point she was so understandably overwhelmed that she passed on the parenting work to her daughters when they were daughters and children, not parents!

[@betheecommentator]

Wow, thank you for sharing this with us. I couldn’t even imagine. Listen, people are entitled to have as many children as they want I have no say in that aspect. But what I kept wondering in doing this video is Michelle said she was pregnant every 14-18 months. That has to take a toll on you mentally, emotionally, physically etc. I could not even imagine. And you’re right they then have the older kids basically parent the younger ones.

[@rebeccam1713]

@@betheecommentator exactly - this is why it becomes cult like; her daughters are encouraged to do the same as adults!

[@nickiehines5319]

Jom Bob is really the abuser and a wolf in sheep clothing .

[@mariec3527]

@@betheecommentator and its only ever HER DAUGHTERS especially the older ones who take on all the work The boys so far I've only seen just help outside

[@terrilreece8045]

I agree. I think this is why their oldest daughter hasn’t gotten married. She’s already taken care of 16 babies! She’s so done.

[@GoldenXBoots]

To me it is obvious Josh enjoyed a much better childhood than his siblings, especially his sisters. Seems like he is the only child that had a great relationship with his parents. Being raised as a favorite child puts pressure on him to meet his parents expectations. And with the pressure of being outwardly perfect, that may explain the cover up of Josh' behaviour. All to keep up apperances.

[@betheecommentator]

That’s a great point, something I also thought about though was I wonder if he ever felt ignored or pushed to the side when having 18 siblings under him?

[@ladyv5655]

It would also explain why JB and Michelle are ready to defend Josh, come hell or high water, no matter what he does. They would never want to admit any failure in his upbringing.

[@karahershey]

Yes all the girls had horrible emotional abuse by there parents because they are seen as less

[@mariec3527]

He definitely was the golden child Hence why they always covered and backed him up

[@debrapalmer9772]

​@@mariec3527 Josh was raised to be the second coming of old Jimbo.

[@TheePookieDee]

I love how far back you research for your deep dives. You really start from the actual beginning of it all & most people don’t go that extra mile. Also, your voice is so soothing lol I could literally watch your videos all day.

[@betheecommentator]

I really appreciate your feedback! I love history and understanding who people are and where they came from. I’m glad you enjoyed the video

[@ellenjoy2675]

How much could a comfortable, rather coddled 15 year-old girl have gotten so horribly wrong in her young life?

[@betheecommentator]

Exactly

[@jessies.7653]

That’s what struck me too. How very sad. Jim Bob is a predator looking out for people he can control, even to this day.

[@LisaKoffler]

Every person is different. Michelle had a "religious awakening," at age 15, met Jim Bob, and they got married when she was 17 and he was 19 . Her parents weren't happy with the decisions she made - especially having a supersized family, because they were concerned about her health. They're deceased now, along with Jim Bob's parents.

[@southerngirl4076]

@@LisaKoffler Rest in peace. It sounds like their parents were reasonable people.

[@LisaKoffler]

Southern girl, "Rest in Peace?" They're rolling in their graves watching what's going on from Heaven! Don't forget that Jim Bob and Michelle joined Bill Gothard's IBLP cult instead of a REAL church, and as a result, they were abused and brainwashed in the worst ways!

[@lauriejohnson-daley3753]

JB is a controlling husband and father whose stronghold on his family is slipping away. As his children grow up and begin lives of their own, no longer under his roof, they are discovering they no longer need to live by his rules, but by their own in relation to their own personal beliefs and convictions.

[@betheecommentator]

And good for them

[@LisaKoffler]

I learned that the daughters have to ask their husbands' permission to wear "regular" clothes, and it's awful! Jim Bob can't handle NOT being in control of everyone and everything!

[@sistahlamb]

I can’t help but feel empathy for Michelle, that she felt that she had to put her physical and mental health on the line in order to satisfy an extreme religious ideology. She and Jim Bob have denied that they are Quivverful, but it’s evident that that was an ideology that they fell into, probably out of guilt and fear from using birth control. The Quivverful movement is distinct because it looks to “redeem the culture” by populating the earth with many godly children and, ultimately, have political domination. There’s no biblical basis for this because Jesus did not come to establish a political kingdom, He came to establish His heavenly kingdom. The other aspect is superimposed gender roles that mirrors the culture of Old Testament times. The Duggars are Independent Baptists which believe they were the first century church that stayed underground for hundreds of years before making its way to America and was not part of the Protestant reformation, which is dubious. I feel that Jim Bob and Michelle let themselves be misguided by their church and the IBLP into a life that they wouldn’t have chosen otherwise. Great video, thank you 😊

[@betheecommentator]

Such a great explanation and breakdown! Spot on, thank you for sharing this with us ❤️

[@barbieblues7639]

Dubious? You mean verifiably false. 😂

[@LisaKoffler]

It's easier to brainwash people who are leaders and followers than independents.

[@deniseleaps]

Miscarriages are common. You can only get pregnant while using the pill when you miss taking them. There is nothing wrong with planning out your family and using contraceptives.

[@kay-bc3vl]

Exactly! And I’m not saying her birth control didn’t cause a miscarriage but she could have also just had a miscarriage

[@betheecommentator]

Exactly there is nothing wrong with that at all.

[@betheecommentator]

Great point as well

[@barbieblues7639]

That's... Not always true. Not defending them but there are instances and exceptions.

[@jeaninepetty4923]

It is rare but you can in fact get pregnant while taking the pill properly. And of course there is nothing wrong with using contraceptives but these people found some cuckoo doctor to tell them the pill caused their miscarriage.

[@tiffanygreen7115]

I was raised in a Christian household and I've spent a lot of time around Christian people. In my experience most are just regular folks trying to live their lives. I have very occasionally come across people who present themselves the way that the Duggars do and I've always found it very unsettling. There is just something almost sinister about the way that they try to appear as these perfect, sweet as syrup, completely innocent people. And to me I've always felt like if you have to put on that kind of a mask in public there has to be something going on underneath that you are desperately trying to hide. I think that what came out about Josh Duggar is probably just the tip of the iceberg of dark secrets going on with this family.

[@faithtinywishes8232]

That’s something a lot of people don’t understand, Christians are normal people with faith. If they’re like the Duggars something might be wrong…

[@StaceyLovesBettyBoop]

I agree. There is A LOT more.

[@LisaKoffler]

The Duggars are part of the IBLP cult instead of a REAL church, and "normal" Christians don't act "cult-like!"

[@FlowerItzel18]

The number one mistake these people make is that they’re always trying to be perfect in front of others, constantly worrying about what others think of you has to be exhausting

[@tiffanygreen7115]

@@FlowerItzel18 Oh, definitely. I can imagine that feeling like you always have to appear perfect to the outside world is extremely exhausting.

[@promisejrhodes]

Bringing so much attention to the “defrauding” clothing actually does the opposite of what they want. 😂😂😂 It makes the little boys more curious and start to notice stuff sooner than they probably would if they were just allowed to watch a freakin PG movie without someone freaking out and jumping up at the TV.

[@Neophema]

Exactly! It's natural to be more interested in the forbidden.

[@Nobody-dp5xo]

Imagine if the parents just talked to their children about bodies, puberty and sex, and not blamed girls for having bodies to begin with, i would imagine that stuff that happened may not of happened. Or at least it would of been dealt with better.

[@jacquelynroe9036]

Yes and that little Joy is covering the TV up for the boys - it sends a horrible message! “The girls need to cover up or cover each other up because boys and men can’t control themselves and their thoughts.” And we wonder why the women are essentially blamed for men cheating or SA-ing them.

[@Nobody-dp5xo]

@@jacquelynroe9036 Yes agreed. Considering she was a victim of Josh's it even more difficult to watch. Poor kid.

[@susanjohnston8973]

Little kids have no concept of what “defrauding” is. For the parents to put that on such small children is just sick. Their innocence was destroyed on many levels. Very sad.

[@ellekaelin3550]

I think that The Duggars absolutely refused and refuse to still admit that having all those children created huge difficulty to deal with issues for their children. They were very fortunate that none of these children were born with severe medical issues or handicaps. I did the research at the time they had their first issues with Josh they had 15 kids they were dealing with and 5 of them were under the age of 5. They had this agenda to prove that you can have the perfect family with all these kids and I'm glad that their true colors are starting to show. I hope that families like this with their beliefs are learning a little lesson. Maybe you shouldn't have nineteen kids, maybe you need to stop enabling horrid behavior. I hope that Anna gets the courage and leaves this marriage.

[@LisaKoffler]

Josie, the youngest has lactose intolerance, and occasionally has seizures! Michelle and Jim Bob are incapable of understanding how their behavior affected their 19 children!

[@jaybee4118]

There’s no way they can ever admit anything they’ve done is wrong. As soon as they admit any slight doubt the whole house of cards would fall down around them. Their whole way of life is a lie. It’s the reason conservatives are conservative.

[@gaylemc2692]

It wasn't the TV that was detrimental to their marriage, it was the church.

[@betheecommentator]

Great point

[@kims.1717]

Not church but THE CULT

[@ladyv5655]

Well, their TV show did make them a ton of money, but it also exposed how awful they are.

[@LisaKoffler]

TV is only "bad" when it's not used wisely!

[@faithtinywishes8232]

@@kims.1717 amen. There’s some scary stuff going on there.

[@1lo2ve3]

I’ve watched hundreds of Duggar videos but decided to watch this one even though I was expecting just another Duggar video. You definitely gained a new subscriber from me! Love the content, the editing, the relevant& straight to the point commentary. Incredible!

[@betheecommentator]

Welcome! And thank you so much for your taking a chance and watching my video as well as providing feedback after. It means so much ❤️

[@lenorawaits5841]

I have watched several of your videos. I really appreciate how you respectfully cover topics that are difficult. You present the facts and don’t make editorial comments throughout. Some youtubers give so many opinionated comments the facts get lost. Excellent work!

[@betheecommentator]

Wow, thank you so much for watching and supporting my channel! It means so much. I try my best to tell a story in a way that allows space for you (the viewer) to form your own conclusions without my opinion. I think that is so important, freedom of thought as well as respect. ❤️

[@Monkeyvr1223]

There’s definitely commentary “JB was a Christian with morals and values while Michele lived a very secular life” There’s a lot of subtext there, including the false concept that Christian = moral secular = immoral. I think the Duggars have proven Christian doesn’t = moral

[@karenwaddell9396]

Sounds like the 1880s to 90s. In my family one of the sisters was a twin who married a controlling abusive man. She had children every 18-24 months. My family said, ‘he just wouldn’t leave her alone’. Meaning he demanded sex even tho she was weak and frail. He basically killed her thru forced sex and childbirth. Sadly, the oldest daughter took over raising the children after her mother died. This daughter did not have her own life. He was abusive to his children too. My great aunt, the twin of her sister told me this story.

[@betheecommentator]

Wow I have no words, so sorry your family member went through that

[@LisaKoffler]

I read in Cosmopolitan Magazine about a woman who said: "When you're really miserable, you don't haggle over material things." Her ex-husband refused to let her work outside the home, forced her to have 6 children, and was pressuring her for more! I got the idea that he was overly-fanatical about being "old-fashioned!" In your case, it's sad and unfortunate that you learned that your great-aunt couldn't and/or wouldn't get divorced from this monster of a great-uncle you're describing! If she did, she and her children - including her oldest daughter - could have had a happy life!

[@alicejohnson8795]

His decision to change was all great and everything but he changed again for the worst and became worse than he thinks his father was. He sold his soul for fame and money and destroyed his son. So he isn’t anyone to admire

[@betheecommentator]

Great point that is something we will talk about in the next video

[@pattyo4703]

Alice, you made an excellent point when you said that Jim Bob became worse than he thought his own father was. It sounds like Jim Bob's father did have a lot of flaws, but they do pale compared to Jim Bob. Jim Bob spent a lot of money on attorneys to try to get Josh free regarding the CSAM charges. Can you imagine how much more Josh can and probably will do once he's free?! At least Josh is unable to harm children for about a decade. If it was up to Jim Bob, Josh would be home with Anna and the kids right now.

[@heidistabbert3062]

That's a great point Alice. I've never thought of him in that way, but you're dead on accurate.

[@LisaKoffler]

It started with his own father, Jimmy Lee Duggar. He was abusive, and it got passed on to Jim Bob and Josh. After 6 months at a "Christian Rehab," it's NOT surprising that Josh came out worse than before!

[@amylee0870]

Yet another carefully researched and professionally presented video.. I can't wait for the next part. You really are, as I have said before, one of the best presenters on KZbin.

[@betheecommentator]

This comment means so much! Honestly, I really appreciate your support and feedback!! 💓💓

[@GoldenXBoots]

The photo of Michelle when she had five kids breaks my heart. She looks so strung out. It's sad she did not get any help with raising their children.

[@betheecommentator]

Thanks so much for watching

[@ladyv5655]

She did. She recruited her daughters to parent the younger children.

[@pattyo4703]

Ultimately Jim Bob and Michelle let go of those early values.

[@pattyo4703]

@@ladyv5655 What you say is true, but it took awhile. Michelle had Josh in 1988, twins in 1990, Jill in 1991 and Jessa in 1992. So she had to take care of 5 kids at that point. Once those oldest 3 girls got between 5 and 6 years old, they probably started their parenting careers. But when the person said Michelle looked fried with 5 kids, she likely was. You can probably bet your life savings that Jim Bob didn't lift a finger to help Michelle because taking care of children, cooking and cleaning weren't Jim Bob's "jurisdictions."

[@heidistabbert3062]

At some point, Jim Bob's mom moved in & helped do laundry because Michelle had a breakdown over it. I have no idea where that is on the timeline tho.

[@lorrilewis2178]

Jim-Bob's background explains so much about why he hoards money to the point of not even paying his children for being on the TV show.

[@LisaKoffler]

Jill's husband became a lawyer, and we don't know whether or he can sue Jim Bob for that, but he could try!

[@lorrilewis2178]

@@LisaKoffler Jill and her husband already sued and they got a settlement that wasn't much more than minimum wage.

[@LisaKoffler]

Lorri Lewis, that's sickening! ALL 19 kids are owed money, and the amount Jill and Derick got is NOT enough!

[@lorrilewis2178]

@@LisaKoffler I don't know if the others got any money or if they even tried. I only know about Jill & Derek because they talked about it. Yes, it was a pathetic amount of money.

[@LisaKoffler]

Lorri Lewis, Jim Bob wasn't fortunate to grow up with financial stability, so it doesn't surprise me that he "hoarded" money that rightfully belongs to his 19 kids!

[@mrsballz]

This is the content I love! You create an easy to follow narrative and there's an even mix of you talking and video content coming from the people involved themselves.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your comment, feedback and support ❤️❤️

[@betheecommentator]

@@thetripleas5582 aww that is so sweet, truly thank you so much!

[@JustMe-px9qy]

I agree. She’s good.

[@chellefell1331]

Same! It's something you can watch, or just listen to!! And i love the hour long!

[@RachOfSunshine]

24:54 it’s so sad because at this point of the video they seem like a wonderful, loving, faith filled couple. It’s unfortunate that things went this way

[@opheliaray9364]

I recently started following you and these are so well done! Excellently researched and put together! It’s clear that many of the Duggars cling onto their “faith” because of fear. “…if I were to die right now, I’d go to hell” as said by Michelle is so similar to the excerpt from the Anna Duggar analysis where she talked about her car accident and her fear of going to hell. Sometimes these women are willing to live through hell in this lifetime to avoid their perception of literal hell.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for your feedback it means a lot!! Yes, I noticed that as well when I did this particularly video that Anna had a similar testimony and how fear played a huge role. Great observation and thank you for sharing your thoughts and comments!

[@opheliaray9364]

@@betheecommentator Keep up the great work! I’ll be watching your future posts for sure!

[@LisaKoffler]

Fear of death is normal, because it's fear of the unknown. In reality, Michelle is afraid of "going to Hell!" That just might happen if things keep going the way they are!

[@smittykins]

A minor correction: the second part of Duggar Guideline #6 is actually “Never *talebear*(tattletale)unless physical harm will come to someone.” I can see not running to Mom or Dad for every little thing, but if the girls had been able to tell them what their brother had done to them, maybe things would have turned out differently

[@LisaKoffler]

Maybe, maybe not.

[@David49305]

they don't want to know whats happeing to their children

[@x1985]

literally no one does a better job with these documentary style videos. You are truly talented!! ❤

[@MirandaMarieF]

I really appreciate that only the facts are represented in your videos rather than opinion - like a documentary , I love it !

[@betheecommentator]

You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoy my channel and style ❤️❤️

[@industrialover]

So they basically taught their children that men can't help themselves

[@betheecommentator]

Pretty much, if a women dresses immodestly then SHE is defrauding him. Insane

[@LisaKoffler]

It's absolutely disgusting! So far, only Josh has proven that, and he's now in prison because of it!

[@montyollie]

You are a phenomenal researcher and storyteller. Thank you for all your hard work making these videos, I'm so addicted to your channel!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for your feedback, when making content for my channel it helps a lot! I’m glad you enjoy it and I’m so appreciative for your continued support 😊

[@mamaelf]

The way Jim Bob looks down at Michelle...🤢🤮

[@betheecommentator]

Lol

[@LisaKoffler]

He doesn't respect girls and women!

[@Larsenlovesdw]

I remember at probably 11 years old, I really loved jon and Kate plus 8. When you would look up the show on Google, 19 kids and counting would pop up. I watched about 15 minutes and my child brain looked at them and said “these people are freaks” and never watched another minute. My intuitions were laser shape because there were no false intuitive there.

[@LisaKoffler]

Don't you mean your intuitions were laser sharp? I sensed problems, too, and I wouldn't call them "freaks." I'd call them "abused and brainwashed!"

[@okoala62]

Nearly half way through the video and I have to write how awesome your work is. Great job! I had to comment on the tv thing 👋🏼😂 I can’t believe them. They got rid of their cable and tv because they were talking less to each other and it was distracting?!? Sounds more like a communication problem between them, poor TV has no fault in this. If anything, the tv has helped my spouse and I talk MORE because it presents lots of great info we wouldn’t have known or talked about otherwise 😂

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for your feedback and comment! In regards to the TV thing I agree. It seems too that having a TV didn’t bother/affect Michelle. Jim Bob was the one that couldn’t “control” himself.

[@LisaKoffler]

The Duggars had serious communication problems BEFORE they got rid of their cable and TV! You can't blame electronics for bad behavior! I learned that Japan has more violent programming than in America, but their crime rate is MUCH lower!

[@x5cat1]

What people need to understand is that the control over NO TV growing up was NOT about the evils of the world, but it was so that the children didn't learn how most people lived. They didn't learn they had control about who touched you and that you had the right to saI y NO if you did NOT like someone touching you! I grew up in a similar household, minus the 19 kids. I was NOT taught about boundaries or that I had the right to say NO to certain people touching me. I was taught just like the Duggars to ALWAYS have a smile on their face no matter HOW bad it was at home. I was told to NEVER tell anyone what was going on at home. From the time I was a toddler I was taught what happened at home "stayed at home"! When my Dad lost his job and we had NO food in the house I got in severe trouble for being honest that we had no food at the house. Given I was taught to tell the truth I could not understand why when we are taught to never lie why I couldn't be truthful when the youth pastor asked if we had enough food to eat. It keeps a child on eggshells constantly trying to figure out what is OK to be truthful about and what isn't! I knew from the very first special Josh was a predator. When you grow up being sexually abused you just have a 6th sense from other perps. I hate being right, but Josh had a major creep factor about him! I just wish he was going away for longer to give his young children time to age. Sadly I believe he has already abused some of them!

[@Nobody-dp5xo]

Im sorry to hear what happened to you. Im so angry that happened to you. Hope are now safe? This sums up the crutch of why i left the religion, purity culture is beyond disgusting and unhealthy and only breeds people like josh. I always got the ick from Josh as well, it was his smug smile. I remember one particular episode where there cousin Amy visited and she brought her then boyfriend, and they are judging her HARD for mabe trying to kiss him. I dont even know if she had, but even the IDEA of consensual kissing a boy was so triggering for them and Josh was talking about how she had a responsibility to god to be 'pure' all with a smirk on his face.

[@LisaKoffler]

I hope you got therapy after your traumatic ordeal! As for Josh, I think he abused Anna, along with their children!

[@x5cat1]

@@LisaKoffler Yes I did Lisa. Here is the video of what I went through. I was speaking at a Child Abuse Luncheon. It is just 14 minutes long,but it goes over some of what I went through. Blessings to you. Nancy :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGK1c2R8j5h-Y9k

[@LisaKoffler]

Nancy Little, Blessings to you, too!

[@x5cat1]

@@LisaKoffler Thank you so much for your sweet words! Nancy :)

[@lilstarshard]

Well what I’m hearing from this is Jim Bob failed in his spirituality by bringing into the world the monster that his son is. And by allowing him to continue his evilness without seeking proper mental health help from outside of the church

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching and sharing your perspective

[@moustik31]

Mental health =/= a sexual predator.

[@butterbeanqueen8148]

Not according to Jim Boob. His son just has some troubles that should be forgiven 😂. But they show absolutely no grace toward anyone else.

[@LisaKoffler]

Josh was sent to a "Christian Rehab" for 6 months, but he only came out worse!

[@meganmichelllllle]

I just wanna say I really appreciate how unbiased your videos are. Your videos are awesome! Thanks for all your hard work!

[@Francine1117]

This KZbin channel is the best one out there when it comes to documentaries on the duggars. She is thorough and easy to follow. She isn’t sensational like all the others.

[@thoughtquake7516]

Well done! I can't wait for part 2.

[@LisaKoffler]

I think it's already out!

[@samanthajohnston9269]

It's interesting how Michelle talks about the triangle theory in her religion,like the man and woman are equal but it was made clear during Josh's trial that women are definitely not treated as an equal in marriage or the church.

[@betheecommentator]

You are making some great points! Thanks again for commenting

[@LisaKoffler]

That's NOT uncommon in patriarchal cultures!

[@4GnomiGn0ME97]

Your videos are so well-researched. For so many of these topics, it's hard to find listenable content that doesn't just repeat the same most well-known facts and clips that everyone has seen. You also have a very soft, calming voice which isn't common to this type of video. Your work is much appreciated 🌹

[@wb1644]

Such an awesome presentation. Thank you for making and sharing the video.

[@boxybrown5300]

Soo close to 20k subs! Happy for you, you put in a lot of time and work into these videos and they're always quality. Thank you for doing these and spreading facts about this stuff, there's too much sensationalized reporting and this family is disturbing enough without extra embellishment.

[@betheecommentator]

Aww thank you so much, the growth feels amazing! Thank you so much for supporting and as always giving me your feedback, it means so much 😊❤️

[@ChloeAngharad]

Well done, another great and insightful video yet again. What I love is that you take time to make content. There’s such a push on KZbin nowadays to be a production machine and to continually push out content regardless of quality. These videos really go against the grain of that expectation, and even though there’s a longer period between some uploads, they’re so much better for the time and care that’s been taken. Keep up the good work 👍

[@betheecommentator]

Oh wow, thank you so much for your feedback. I was worried because I know it takes some time to get these out but I’m more of the mindset “quality over quantity” and I really want to respect all parties we talk and with care. Your comment is very much so appreciated!! ❤️

[@soniamendoza7497]

You do such an amazing job telling these stories- I've been hooked listening to them all!!

[@greyhoundssss]

Excellent presentation-very well researched and edited! Thank you!

[@betheecommentator]

You’re welcome! Thank you so much for watching I really appreciate it

[@hannahbush9952]

SO excited to see your video today!!! You made my day! Great job, as always!! :)

[@betheecommentator]

Aww that is so sweet, I hope you enjoy the video and your day!!

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

I normally don't watch this type off content but your Josh Duggar video popped up in my recommended and I clicked. I really enjoy your calm narration. Your informative and your voice is calming. It's nice to put on a video while I'm drawing or doing something else relaxing. Thank you.

[@betheecommentator]

Aww that’s so good to hear I really appreciate your input and feedback am I’m glad you my style! Thank you so much for watching ☺️❤️

[@Mary-momof8]

Great job on this compilation!!!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching!!

[@Kony-2012]

I just found your channel because this video was recommended to me, and wow! I’m so glad I did! This was such a thorough and detailed video! Thank you 💜

[@betheecommentator]

That’s awesome I’m so glad you found my channel, enjoyed the video and also took the time to comment! Thank you so much and I look forward to making more content for you all ❤️

[@Kony-2012]

@@betheecommentator I’m a subscriber for life now! I would love some more detailed Duggar videos, they’re so fascinating to me as someone who has had an opposite life to them. Looking forward to more videos 💜 about to binge your past videos right now!

[@Bartha_Stewit]

Looking forward to your deeper dive into this family. ie. court docs etc. Great job as usual!

[@betheecommentator]

I have everything ready to go in terms of court docs, I just want to make sure that it is done with taste and respects all parties involved ❤️

[@karinafrazer3459]

They have lied to cover up for Josh this is the real deep dive, they have pretended to be good people. But they have also spent loads of time avoiding taxes. They are scammers. Never paid their kids for their work on the show. One had to sue him to be compensated. They are a disgraceful fake family.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching and you made some great points!

[@LisaKoffler]

Jim Bob especially needs to be sued in court for that!

[@snowfish1121]

I love your content and the way you deliver it. I think your channel will grow pretty big. Please do more deep dives on anything and everything, they’re my fave!

[@kellieterry9319]

You are the best commentator on YouTub. I can listen to your voice for hours and the way you tell a story is so interesting and a joy to listen to. I get so excited every time you post a video. Very well done and thank you for sharing your talent with us. 💗

[@betheecommentator]

Awww thank you so much ❤️ I am so happy you enjoy my content and find it entertaining, thank you for supporting my channel 🥰🥰

[@mycatsdrivemecrazy]

As usual a very enjoyable video,you have a gift and the willingness to do the work. You will do well in life. Looking forward to the next one!

[@betheecommentator]

Wow, thank you so much, I really appreciate that I honestly do!! Thanks for watching ❤️

[@NoSoup4U.]

I can't wait for Part 2!!!

[@betheecommentator]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@TheAdamsa83]

Very well done. With all the creators covering this topic, I enjoyed hearing some new stories and ideas.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much I really appreciate your feedback ❤️

[@mooseymcflurffycat3018]

This was really well done. I hope there will a part 2 one day

[@LisaKoffler]

I think it's already out!

[@docjc1842]

This channel is awesome. I would love to learn more about similar families with your style! Like Annas family or the Bates. This was so good.

[@betheecommentator]

Hi there! Thank you so much for your feedback I’m glad you found my channel. I covered Anna’s family in a two part deep dive on my channel. It is the video section of my channel. Can you see it?

[@LisaKoffler]

The Bates Family also had 19 children, and as for Anna, her parents were stricter than the Duggars! Thankfully, a few of Anna's siblings got out!

[@clarebear3391]

Wow another great deep dive, well done and thanks for all your hard work, I’m sure it was tough to immerse yourself in all things dugger! Excellent content 👏🏻

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much I really appreciate your feedback. Yes, it can be quite exhausting listening to the way they speak and all the rules/guidelines etc…gives me a headache lol and makes me feel so bad for the ones in it.

[@californiacobra527]

I wanna get in the ring with BOTH Jim Bob and Joshua Duggar!!!

[@shevi1226]

Your voice is so soothing. I can listen to you talk while I work all day. I love that you present the facts and don’t give your opinion or try to influence anyone. You will make a great journalist one day if that is your plan.

[@meatofmink]

Those siblings all became after thoughts after Josh. I'm not shocked that Jimbob would go on to steal from his own children, to throw them under the bus to save their precious first born. Trash the lot of them. These people are disgusting and they always sent a shiver down my spine, I never saw them as wholesome. I saw them as evil.

[@betheecommentator]

Oh wow that’s a good point I never looked at it like that, thanks for sharing your perspective

[@drewisours]

Saaaame!!!

[@LisaKoffler]

I saw Jim Bob and Michelle as stupid and very misguided! The fact that they didn't give their 19 kids a "normal" upbringing, and they're now rebelling after getting married shouldn't be a surprise to anyone!

[@JBrodo]

I adore your videos ♥️. So well written and thoughtful.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much ❤️

[@meghanservidio5866]

Once again, excellent research, great communication, wonderfully reported.

[@drewisours]

Your videos are always very well made! Thank you for what you do ❤️

[@betheecommentator]

You’re welcome, thank you for supporting my channel ❤️

[@lisarenshaw1554]

This family made a mockery of Christianity.

[@LisaKoffler]

They're part of the IBLP cult instead of a REAL church! It's called FAKE Christianity!

[@wickedwonka9155]

This was REALLY well done. Mad props.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much, I’m glad you enjoyed it and took the time to comment

[@lizzietizzy]

Great deep dive. Thanks for sharing!!

[@DaniRaeDom]

I love it when I see a new video from you in my notifs ♥️ haven’t finished the video , and I already love this deep dive!!

[@betheecommentator]

Yay! That is so sweet of you to comment this! I’m glad you enjoy my content and I thank you for watching and supporting ❤️❤️

[@AngelofDarkness2899]

great vid as always! I didn't really understand how michelle joined the church, and it's sad that she was only brought in because of fear. I'm not really a religious person, but i always feel bad for people who are only religious because theyre afraid of whatever the religion tells them they should be afraid of.

[@betheecommentator]

That’s a very great point, the same thing happened to Anna in regard to her testimony. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and perspective

[@kc4208]

I grew up in it and was controlled by fear .... it wasnt until a few years ago, around my 36th birthday that i was diagnosed with cptsd after two of my brothers committed su.cide. I spent so many years thinking i was a bad person going to hell and stumbling through life when the answer was actually in the bible all along: "train up a child in the way they should go and when they are old, they will not depart from it ..." i was trained up to believe i was born a sinner and what qualified as sin in our home was whatever suited my parents at any given time. I was given no guidance for living or encouraged in anything i enjoyed .... even a failing grade, instead of helping us was a cause for a beating with either a switch (stick) or a belt. While i have my own personal relationship with the bible and with God, i am not involved in religion today .... just extensive therapy.

[@LisaKoffler]

K C, you're extremely lucky! Religion teaches people to be God-fearing, but they don't have to fear God in such a way that EVERYTHING is considered "sinful!" Extensive therapy is the best thing to help undo the damage your parents caused you!

[@911dips5]

Great point

[@Marinlss]

The Duggars are my special interest rn and I love that this video just came out. I hope at least one of the kids get out of fundamentalism (Jill is already not IBLP but still needs to learn more about the real world). I'm watching their show and it's so sad to see how much potential they had as children, were stunted by their parents and now are adults spewing the same hatred and nonsense.

[@betheecommentator]

Yes it seems that Jill has really distanced herself and I’m sure still has a ways to go. Good for her.

[@LisaKoffler]

Amy Duggar King is especially proud of Jill, and the other married Duggar siblings are starting to live more "normal" lives, and I'm extremely proud of them, too!

[@44nk96]

Amazing! I’m so excited for the follow up. New follower right here 👋

[@betheecommentator]

Hi there! And welcome 🤗 I’m glad you’re here

[@whoisjohngalt3047]

I enjoy your commentary so much! You do a fantastic job on getting in to the stuff no one really knows about. You go deep! I think that’s why I look forward to your videos so much. It’s so informative and I love it! Thank you for all your hard work. I don’t understand why you haven’t blown up by now! It’s that good.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much! I try to add to the conversation as much as possible and find things that are lesser known or at least try to tell it differently so I really appreciate your support and taking the time to comment, really appreciate that thank you so so much! ❤️

[@rascal342]

“I am enjoying the fruit of a single mom- almost-it felt like she was- of that labor that she poured into her son” Lmao Michelle

[@LisaKoffler]

Michelle had 19 children! Didn't she enjoy doing the same thing with all the others?

[@jenncenn2829]

Ooh I can’t wait to see more! This was really interesting. I was surprised to hear they were agreeing to a show the same year Josh was beginning his streak of trouble.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much, yes they signed on to do the show after they knew why Josh was doing to his sisters at that point they had known for a few years so we’ll get into all that in the upcoming vids. Thanks so much for your support and feedback ❤️

[@LisaKoffler]

They should have reported Josh the very first time he offended!

[@lalalaacc5020]

You are one of my favorite commentators on this platform, thank you for making such great content

[@betheecommentator]

That is so sweet thank you so very much for supporting my channel! ❤️