Jinger Duggar EXPOSES Duggars CULT Like Upbringing

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Jinger Duggar Vuolo, the daughter of Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, has recently written a book titled "Becoming Free Indeed", where she exposes the Duggars' "cult-like" upbringing. In this video we will take a deep look into her book and journey of disentangling the harmful theology she was brought up in.
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[@jessltf3222]

All my years studying medicine and never once was I informed that germs only bother us if we’re bitter or guilty…

[@calinasagilitypartner4444]

Both my parents were docs, too. I never heard, "Don't be bitter or the germs will get ya!"

[@sbaker4920]

Ha ha ha!

[@Himesua]

I literally came to the comments looking for someone to call this out!! This dude is so incredibly manipulative

[@danielhainline8882]

@@calinasagilitypartner4444 I never heard about Covid 19 affecting just bitter people. It went after all people and it didn't matter if they were sweet, bitter, or awful. Your parents are right. Humans have their own diseases and illnesses like dogs have their own and so do trees. We get sick because we are living creatures and our bodies break down. Gothard manipulated these people who follow him and made them think crazy things!

[@Harry7656]

I don’t know if this germ theory is hogwash, but medical schools do leave out a whole lot of truth.

[@rxteck1228]

I grew up in fundamental cult like religion. I remember around the age of 13 I started asking questions about some of the teachings. That was a wrong move! I spent WEEKS being counseled by church elders (one being my uncle). During church I was brought up front and prayed over to release the demons that had a hold on me. The reason I started questioning things I was like Jinger I was terrified of receiving God’s wrath. I NEVER slept because I was terrified that the rapture would happen and I’d be left behind. I couldn’t comprehend a God of love was ok with me being scared all the time. I broke away from the religion and was shunned by everything that was familiar to me. Im 56 years old. I still consider myself a Christian but I have completely turned away from organized religion….☮️💗🙏

[@speeeee35]

That must’ve been really hard. I hope you’re doing well today.

[@anime-qb3mq]

I'm 41y and have no contact with my family not even my extended. Non of them have ever met my kids. I also at around age 12 or 13y started asking questions. I also got a bit rebellious. Nothing major just normal preteen stuff and my parents made me go to counseling. My uncle and grandpa were the deacons of the church so I had to start there. By age 16y I got pregnant with my son and my parents church had me go up to the front to get prayed over then they told me I was no longer welcome to attend. My father had my bags packed for me after lunch and that was the last I saw them. Today I have 6 Amazing kids. A wonderful husband. We go to a non-denominational church. Where I still find it very hard to trust. I go back to the beliefs that were ground into my brain growing up and I have to remind myself all the time that the God I love now and that loves me is not the one who I was taught about as a child. I would NEVER want my children to be taught the way I was.

[@rxteck1228]

@@speeeee35 I’m doing great!

[@kyla6538]

What you went through was serious mental abuse, how awful to have that kind of fear as a child. Its sick!

[@TeachMeLordGod]

Careful to not forsake the fellowship of fellow Christians. Find a church that follows scripture and keeps everyone accountable.

[@jeannehendrix3487]

She has always been the rebel of the Duggars. I love that she is standing against that creep minister. You go girl

[@kellyherrmann1420]

Jill is doing the same thing with her husband, Derrick… All together they are breaking free of this horrifying cult

[@carairn4201]

Jinger has grown from a scared child into a well-spoken, thoughtful, intelligent young woman of deep faith. I admire her for her strength in sharing her story. I’m so happy for her to have found her brother-in-law and her husband to help her begin the journey out of the darkness of her childhood.

[@IvyroseGullwhacker]

I know many are upset that Jinger has settled into hardcore Calvinism, but this kind of deprogramming comes in waves and stages, and just the fact she is speaking out against the IBLP and Gothard is really admirable as that cult is very powerful over its members. Perhaps Jinger's example of leaving the IBLP but still having a relationship with Christ will inspire others to leave the IBLP because they can leave with faith intact.

[@betheecommentator]

This is good! You’re right: deprogramming is a long, slow, process. Good for her for taking those initial steps

[@kris78787]

But what gives her the right to criticize someone else when she herself is in false doctrine?

[@ga6589]

@@kris78787 Most people in any kind of religious organization believe their doctrine is right and all others are false. Jinger has every right to be public about how IBLP dogma was damaging to her growing up. What I do have a problem with is when people proselytize and try to convince others to subscribe to their particular theology, because it's the only "true" one and if they don't, they'll suffer terrible consequences. That's promoting tyranny and indoctrination through fear, every bit as much as Gothard does with his lunatic rules.

[@kris78787]

@@ga6589 well she does say she’s finally found the true gospel. Her husband is under a Calvinist preacher so that can be very misleading to people. Calvinism is also a type of false doctrine too

[@ga6589]

@@kris78787 "True gospel" is a relative term for the simple reason that the Bible is the world's ultimate Rorschach Test. Everyone who reads and ponders over it sees something different. Any individual or organization that sells themselves as being privileged with "truth" that escapes others is full of hot air. If that's what John MacArthur and the Vuolos do, they're full of it, too. Whatever sense of spirituality or faith a person has that helps them through life, that's wonderful. It's not wonderful when they proselytize and tell others they're going to hell for what they believe.

[@ginah.6243]

I noticed the teaching says "the bibles says ..." but never gives exact scripture & verse. You have to be careful. As a Christian I've learned how important it is to study biblical scripture for myself to avoid being deceived. Edit: I made the comment during the video before Jinger basically said the same thing. I'm so glad she's reading the Bible & seeing the truth for herself.

[@betheecommentator]

Very very true

[@juliemclain5841]

Exactly, knowing the Word from reading, studying, listening to, and being taught has saved me from going down paths led by false teachers. This is why I insisted that my children also read the Word everyday and talk about their faith and what they were learning. It wasn't just some control tactic over them, but really wanting them to be strong in of themselves with God.

[@TeachMeLordGod]

Amen same, a lot of people should read it honestly to see what it actually says versus what they were told about it. A lot is put out of context and the level of deception it causes feels unforgivable to say the least.

[@DNGRKTY]

Exactly! I always remember Titus when something feels wrong with what a human is preaching.

[@kate4biglittlevoices]

And why it is important to “store up the word of the Bible for yourself, it is your shield and armor “ or basically , knowing and understanding for yourself, is what will carry you in life day to day

[@Redraven2967]

I am a 56 year old Christian man. Throughout this interview I have noted the following: Jinger in an intelligent person who speaks straight straight and eloquently; her words are well thought out and the arguments she presents are on point: she is a beautiful young woman: the outfits she has chose for her interview are entirely appropriate for her age married or not: anyone like Gothard or JB who would claim that the shorts she was wearing on the beach were anything but appropriate has a problem. If a boy, teen, young man or any other aged man has difficulty controlling their “urges” or keeping themselves appropriate because of the clothes a female chooses to wear, it is that male who has the problem, not the female. Both of my sons and both of my daughters were taught that they and they alone are responsible for their own thoughts and deeds. All teens need to be raised to control their own lust, which is natural by the way, rather than place their lack of self control on others. The IBLP is sick in their teaching and does not follow the word of God.

[@betheecommentator]

First off thank you so much for watching and weighing in on this topic. It’s not often men watch or comment and I feel like your message and thoughts are SO needed!! You raise amazing arguments and I hope more people read your comment!! Thank you SO much for sharing and sharing from the perspective of a man and as a father! Thank you

[@varvaram.ashbaugh]

Thank you. Very well said.

[@fatimarombeiro4795]

Great message and totally agree with every word you're saying.

[@DeaDiabola]

"Her outfits are entirely appropriate for her age married or not" My guy. Please do not make needless comments like that. It is dehumanizing, it minimizes their sense of agency, and from the tone of your comment I can tell you're not the kind of guy to do that knowingly :). What a woman wears does not define her or excuse the behavior of men, which you do say later on- and it is why I know you did not mean to do so. And, y'know.. throwing in that part about being unmarried was also highly unnecessary, and it makes your compliment feel kind of backhanded. I just wanted to let you know, because you very clearly have good intentions and didn't realize how that may be perceived. I am sure your words came from a warm, loving place. Saying how strong and eloquent she is, is what women want to hear far more, especially from men they do not know. Its not a big deal though, I'm just giving some food for thought. It is also pertinent to remember that bisexuals/pansexuals and lesbians exist, and sadly, we may not even have the right to marry anymore very, very soon- so marriage is not a qualifier for the value of a human being. I don't believe that is what you meant to say, but that was how it was written. Again, not a big deal. Just something you may want to know since you seem to be a sweet dude. Other than that, I agree with you whole-heartedly!!! You definitely have the right idea, and its great to hear that religious people are more and more accepting of others and not victim-blaming! That is very exciting, and encouraging to hear. More men need to share POSITIVE masculinity with one another. It is sad that many of them see standing up for or being respectful to women without being "after something" as "white knighting" or call them "beta cucks/simps" or whatever. It is infuriatingly toxic, and everyone loses. So thank you for doing so, even if it isn't the most popular opinion with a lot of other men. For now, anyway. The fight for our freedom never ends, but hopefully one day, we may get to fight less.🖤✨

[@gmfutube]

Josh Duggar is the perfect example of how clothes don't matter.

[@loudog3998]

I will never forget watching this family when they FIRST came out with 14 and counting my first thought while watching was " what is really going on in this family it will come out eventually" and it did

[@crystalshaw8744]

What you do in the dark comes to the light.

[@susansaphire5983]

When I heard him talking about how women should not put their husband in check, I literally was waiting for you to address the inevitable sexual abuse allegations. No one talks like that and also respects women.

[@betheecommentator]

That is so true! It’s a shame that the allegations against him were “dropped” by the plaintiffs due to the statute of limitations.

[@mariaharris3022]

Misogyny at its worst.

[@phyllistschudi-rose299]

Unfortunately, John McArthur (Jinger's new pastor) is similar when it comes to women in abusive marriages. They are counciled to stay and shunned when/if they leave. Hopefully JInger wil continue with her faith journey and move away from him.

[@cookiedoe6068]

I was married for a long time to someone with very similar religious views, not sure if it’s the exact same but eerily close. Sadly some believe that the wife signs her consent away to the husband when she signs the marriage certificate. I was told much too late: “you consented when you married him.” The wife is under the husbands “umbrella of protection” but it’s more like a control thing. The husband is above the wife just like the wife is above the children, but the wife is not an equal to the husband. They’re taught that boys and men can’t control themselves and that women should never say no to their husband’s sexual advances. A lot of them are brainwashed to think that it’s not assault if you’re married. It’s very sad.

[@lookitskatiex]

@@cookiedoe6068 CW: SA conversations That makes me horribly sad. A lot of older women describe certain things as consensual when they are definitely SA. It makes me worry that something happened to them.

[@mexiaznann]

While my views & beliefs don’t fully align with Jinger’s, I am so so proud of her. Truly. I grew up as a pastors daughter in a Pentecostal church. Like Jinger, most of my childhood was full of “rules” such as modest clothing, no makeup or jewelry, purity culture, satanic panic, etc. My faith was a majority fear based. I have been in therapy for few years now with a therapist who has helped me pick away at that religious trauma. Speaking up publicly about it is never easy, because most will think you’re ungrateful or straying away from God. I love that Jinger has used her platform to speak about this

[@betheecommentator]

I completely agree with you, very good points!!

[@montyollie]

((hugs)) I too am a religious trauma survivor, and I was raised in the catholic charismatic movement which is very much like pentacostalism. We were steeped in the satanic panic of the 80s, too. I am so happy for Jinger that she was able to break away and speak out. Her siblings are all so heavily indoctrinated. Even Jill, who doesn't appear to be knee deep in it, doesn't speak out publicly against her parents or the way she was raised, so yes, kudos to Jinger!!

[@ABC-gh2sv]

I agree! I’m really not religious at all today but I understood growing up fearful in your faith. I think Jinger has done a phenomenal job in all the interviews she’s done so far. She’s expressed her thoughts, emotions and journey so beautifully and gracefully.

[@seanwingfield977]

I grew up in a Protestant church. These people were very discriminatory and their youth pastor was abusive to me because of I have disabilities. I think there are many ways to approach God and the Bible is NOT literal. This man is a liar. I feel sorry for the Duggars. They were misled. What I did is I converted to Judaism. I don’t accept Christianity anymore. I can’t accept something that lies and allows abuse of vulnerable people.

[@seanwingfield977]

Mazel Tov to her. She finally woke up

[@PaulaGray-ts2lz]

I am 56 years. I had a strict upbringing in a southern Baptist church. I didn't realize until I came into my 40s that I was being groomed to be a leader. The southern Baptist aren't that strict but my mother and pastor put such expectations on me to the point that I didn't know how to breathe on my own. The anxieties that Jinger lived with I could identify with. I also couldn't sleep thinking that I would be left behind. I had to be perfect in everything I did. I had to have a perfect attitude and servitude. I'm so proud of Jinger for identifying what she was in while she is still young.

[@kiwi-se4ld]

I grew up Pentecostal/Apostolic and had a lot of the same restrictions on my life as the Duggars. The entire religion is so based in fear and isolation. Because I was vocal and asked a lot of questions, I was constantly punished and used as an example and told that I was full of demons. The sexual abuse was rampant, and was always the woman's fault. I was blamed for wearing shirts that were too tight at age 12. Thankfully I left as soon as possible, but that sort of upbringing causes so many traumas that I'm still dealing with. I can only hope that she continues to heal and I wish her the best.

[@ciciriddick]

I went to school with a girl who was Apostolic. She wasn't allowed to wear pants ever. Her and her sister only wore skirts to school. She tried to explain it to me one time and I was sad for her.

[@jessiealvey2945]

I went to a catholic school until 6th grade but I always felt awkward and out of place there. So for most of my 20's I turned my back on all faith and lived a wild and dangerous life. I almost died one night so I prayed for the first time in years and promised to live a better life if He let me live. I started reading the Bible for myself. I met a wonderful Pastor who welcomed me in to their Apostolic Pentecostal Church. He told me to come in my pajamas if I wanted to lol. They NEVER told me how I had to dress or how to live. They just accepted me warts and all and love me deeply. My Pastor's wife gives half of the sermons sometimes because our church doesn't elevate men over women. They don't add or take away from the Bible. I've been a member of my church for over ten years now, maintain my sobriety and raise my beautiful children. I eventually made the choice for myself to dress modestly. I'm the kind of person who will do something twice if someone tells me I can't lol so it was definitely my choice. It's going to be a choice for my daughter too. We can't force our faith on anyone, not even our children. That's when things start to get ugly, when force and fear are applied.

[@tonibee3771]

I’m so proud of her for speaking up for what she’s gone thru and believes in.

[@betheecommentator]

Completely agree! Thanks so much for watching

[@tonib.3016]

Hi fellow Toni B!!! And I agree with you 💯

[@vss1232]

she went from her parent's religion to her husband's religion which is calvinist (god has predestinated people), & the leader of her new church, john mcarthur, has a lot of questionable & backward beliefs, i hope she continues to grow because there's so much that she has not been exposed to after having such a limited upbringing

[@butterbeanqueen8148]

I hope she will continue on too. If she has started critically thinking for herself she will continue to do so. She has gone from one bad thing to another. Changing her whole thinking process won’t be easy. It will probably take a lot of time. I don’t look for her to leave this current group anytime soon. But I’m encouraged by this about face.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Yiiiiikes that's what the Westboro Baptists were, right? I recall Fred Phelps saying he was a Calvinist. That might actually be slightly worse.

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

@@MsNooneinparticular sounds like her family was already Calvinist anyway. They just keep calling them different names to confuse the IRS. Doesn’t sound like she’s changed.

[@juliemclain5841]

Yet, what she's believing in is based directly on the Word of God, isn't it?

[@barbiekat6352]

I grew up near John McArthur’s church when it was growing. Yes, lots of questionable and backward beliefs! They had lay staff counseling young people with common issues like depression. I think that stopped when a young man killed himself. I never attended there but we knew many people that did. One of them tried to get my mom to attend saying, “The church is growing really fast!” … my mom said “So does an infected thumb!” I remember that exchange 50 years later! 😆

[@Juliskool423]

It must be really difficult for her to speak out like this knowing her parents and other family members’ feelings about it. I’m happy for her. Another fabulous video by you!

[@ericahoelscher3733]

From what I recall the Duggars always denied a connection to Gothard. They worshipped in home church with the fathers as leaders. The Duggars denied being quiverfull and only followed Jim Bob’s take on everything.

[@paulan7218]

thankfully she is in a place we’re it’s more important to obey God above all else

[@mestillme3026]

Unfortunately she is still really close with her parents. She is still minimizing her own trauma and not getting the therapy she really needs. She's still very much a part of the fundie cult, she just moved to the outskirts. She's not fully free yet.

[@colecitaa]

My brother and I grew up in a cult with my mom. They actually shunned my dad, but that's a whole different story. I left when I was 15 and was pretty much homeless for a few years following. Still much better than living that life!! This Gothard guy, oh my mom would love him. She'd probably wash his feet right now if she could smh

[@Roller324]

As someone who Grew up in an Actual Occult, I feel her!! We adopted A lot of Bill Gather’s Teachings. There is a Documentary coming out soon about where I grew up. I’m actually part of it. It was very hard to do but much needed!!

[@anonymousperson8211]

What is it called? Where can we watch? So sorry you had to go through this.

[@betheecommentator]

Oh wow, so sorry to hear about what you went through. Please feel free to let us know the name of the documentary you’ll be in and when it comes out. If you feel comfortable.

[@Roller324]

@@betheecommentator They haven’t come up with the Name yet. We are still waiting on a few things. Also I may have to fly to New York and re-record my portion of the Interview. It will also have Craig Mack the Rapper form Bad Boy Records in it. Because he lived there. And also died there. The Name of the Occult is “Overcomer Ministry.” The so called Prophet was “Ralph Gordon Stair. Lots of things about him on the internet. Good luck of you research this guy. He was a horrible human being!! It was a place in southern part of South Carolina, called Walterboro. Anyhow the Documentary was bought by NBC. Not sure yet which Platforms it will be streaming on.

[@beckyflower7297]

@@Roller324 do you mean a cult, the occult or a cult about the occult?

[@perfectlyyoubeauty]

@@beckyflower7297 “Overcomer Ministry is a secluded Christian commune that has been described as a cult” according to Wikipedia

[@m_n_a_b]

Does anyone else notice how Gothard's teachings place all responsibility for everything from not causing men to stumble (through extreme modesty) to keeping a husband happy to the artwork on the wall causing the loss of a husband and sons on women, with little to no accountability for men? I was floored as I listened to how one sided so much of the false teachings were. Not to mention how messed up it all is.

[@temdasarah]

I grew up in a Christian household, and even through all the church hurt that I faced Christ was the only one who was there for me. So blessed to have heard this story, definitely subscribing!! Thank you so much

[@mercyorbit9351]

Thank you for covering this. I became a born again believer at age 30. There are so much false teachings and Jesus warned us about it. Do not follow man, follow God. I’m glad she found the Truth.

[@kimberlyelliott7933]

💯💯💯

[@michele-kt]

It was clear to the viewing audience that Jinger was struggling. I think most people thought it was transitioning to being married and being away from her family that was causing her distress. I am so happy for her and that she found her way out of that cult. Jeremy must be a very loving, caring and patient husband to have ever so gently helped her find her way.

[@lindaraterink6451]

I think it is right that we saw she was struggling. But in my opinion I thought she didn't want to live the way she was forced too. As she got in contact with the world and see how they lived and still were not 'bad people'. If that makes sense. She always seem to be rebelling just on the edges of what was allowed.

[@xyz12345457]

This video shows how fear can actually lead people toward the exact thing they are afraid of. We are constantly hearing about politicians who rage against this and that and then we find out they are the biggest practitioners.

[@rhondaalmeida6104]

I grew up in the United Pentecostal Church international. My dad was a pastor for over 30 years and this seems very similar to what I grew up with except we were allowed to use birth control. The dress code though was almost identical and all the false legalistic standards and false doctrines they taught. I followed until I was in my early 30s. I'm still trying to stop being afraid that I'm going to hell all the time

[@femalephobia]

Your not going to hell, especially if you believe in God…

[@savage_optimist]

That asthma quote took my breath away. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@Tara-km2sc]

It was the "bitterness and guilt gives you cancer" that made me gasp.

[@courtneydoeswhat]

I see what you did there 😂

[@lesakingsbury1612]

Yes mine too 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@GerryEscue]

I needed my inhaler when I heard that. LOL

[@lifewithklc]

I really hope she’s not trading one cult for another. I wish they could take time to consider and find who they REALLY are, and then find the spiritually that fits them.

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

That’s how I feel about AA/NA bc Christians snag addicts and tell them they’ll be happier to trade in one addiction for a religious one. You shouldn’t join any religions/groups when in recovery either bc you end up giving your savings to the church.

[@spatulaoblangata]

I agree. Though I'm sure transitioning out of an extreme Christian cult is probably easier if you can still hold onto some of the same teachings at first. Going straight from quiverfull to atheist would be traumatizing and existential crisis inducing. Hopefully she will continue evolving

[@ivytaylor1494]

I was so impressed when she was describing her method for deconstructing Bill's teachings, I think holding onto a softer version of Christianity is a stepping stone and as long as she continues to seek her own truth she will find it.

[@sophiamikell7490]

Personally I think religion is only a cult if you are not asking questions, or not allowed to ask questions about why you are learning and questioning if it’s true or not.

[@tiffanispiker8886]

@@sophiamikell7490 I agree. Anything can be a cult if you don’t ask questions and do sometimes your own research.

[@sheilaanderson8164]

I was raised in a similar cult. The trauma is real. Bless you Ginger 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

[@betheecommentator]

It really is…I hope you are doing well!! ❤️❤️

[@a.walters123]

It is literally impossible to give adequate and individual attention on a daily basis to 20 children. I feel that when you’re pushing past 6-7 children, it becomes selfish and unfair to the other children. Not only do they not receive attention they deserve, they are forced to adopt a parental role in helping raise the children, more so than the normal feasible expectation for older children to help out to a degree.

[@ToLovelyJesus]

The Bible says that children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Perhaps our lifestyles are what make us not have time.

[@jenmull6191]

It’s kind of silly to say that she can’t give attention equally to 20 children. It’s not 20 children. When my youngest of 8 kids was born, my oldest was 19. When people exclaimed “Wow, 8 kids!” I’d say, “Well, 1 is an adult, 3 are teens, only 4 are kids and 4 kids is not hard at all.” The dynamics of a large family operate differently than a small family. No, my older kids did not raise my younger kids, but they did watch out for them, usually without me telling them to. The younger kids don’t need as much individual attention simply because they have so much attention from older siblings as well as parents. Sure, their are families that don’t do this well, but some of us rock this. My youngest is now 14 and my oldest is 33. They all love being in a large family. A supersized family has their own dynamics. I don’t believe older kids helping out means they are raising them. It’s just part of being responsible and part of a team. No family is perfect, but the size isn’t the problem. There are tons of families with 1 or 2 kids whose parents don’t pay attention to them.

[@WyattRyeSway]

I come from a family of 10. I’m 14. My oldest brother is 16. The youngest is just a few months. One set of twins.

[@caroljoan3792]

They were each assigned a child that means they were robbed of their own child upon that assignment which is sad and a form of child abuse in my mind.

[@caroljoan3792]

​@@ToLovelyJesusI think that their mom didn't have the time so you are right her lifestyle took away her time to be a good parent to her own children what's the mothers name.. Amy? Jim Bob's servant is who I am talking about.

[@AidaraRose]

My best friend growing up was raised in a family like this under these beliefs. Even as a child I could see the trauma it was causing the family, though I didn’t understand it fully until I was an adult.

[@kellysowhat88]

I had absolutely NO idea that they believed these kind of cult beliefs. I knew some of the smaller more conservative beliefs, but not the extremes. I’m so glad these women are speaking. So happy for her.

[@KimMarshall44]

I felt overwhelmed hearing Jingers fears😔😪 and I missed you BE! I cannot stand cults and spiritual narcissists. 😩 Excellent job on this breakdown as usual 👏🏽

[@betheecommentator]

Oh no, I hope you are feeling ok and have found some peace and comfort????

[@KimMarshall44]

@@betheecommentator you're so sweet, I meant I felt overwhelmed with all Jingers rules, regulations, restrictions and obsessions with this cult, down to having babies when you're warned not to and dying because of listening to gospel music with drums 🤦🏾‍♀️ . Just so illogical and the bible is very clear with having common sense and not being this foolish.

[@betheecommentator]

@@KimMarshall44 ahh okay I’m glad you’re okay! Yes, I agree it was very difficult to listen to all these “rules” they are raised to believe, it’s very sad really. Like Jinger stated it keeps one in a constant state of fear. On top of is some of these things Gothard taught, make zero zero sense, I don’t understand how he was able to make such statements.

[@KimMarshall44]

@@betheecommentator it's always their Charisma and their "Jezebel" spirit as they alone have direct access to God and you're rebellious and will go to hell even if you're the purest of souls. The control and lust for power over people is egregious in the concept of church.

[@Grammichal]

@@betheecommentator It’s fear based & VERY superstitious! 👺

[@moxygirl5636]

Her family relationship must be so difficult. What her brother did is so evil, the video he downloaded from the dark web is one of the worst of the worst imaginable. I don't think I could really call him my family anymore if I was her.. but she is already so strong. Her parents did these kids almost no favors, it's really sad

[@mw25893]

Wait what??? He made videos??? Omg disgusting

[@north40lady98]

Oh there are much worse than what this kid accessed! What he did is a grain of sand in a bucket...

[@shybirdfl]

😮😮 what video???

[@doxielvr8336]

Perhaps if Josh had been allowed to have normal teenage relationships with other teens, he may not have fondled his own sisters. Teens are curious about sex. They will find a way to satisfy their curiosity one way or another.

[@margaretburr7975]

No he didn't he down loaded it.​@@mw25893

[@laurad324]

I never saw anything idealic about the Duggar family even though TLC made it look so innocent. I found it horrifying .

[@merricat3025]

I know, and it was surprising that others didn't see it. People thought they were wholesome. I had a coworker who was an atheist and liked them. I was like, what??? They were creepy parents and culty.

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

@@merricat3025 fr I watched it sometimes BECAUSE it was culty and creepy. Same with sister wives.

[@sp22777]

Be, you never disappoint! Another great video! I don’t know if anyone has ever told you - you have a nice, calm speaking voice & I love how you narrate. Thank you again!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching!! I’m glad you enjoyed this video and I really appreciate your feedback and compliments, so sweet ☺️☺️❤️

[@bkk1996]

I love her voice. It's so calming for me even when discussing difficult or anxiety inducing topics. Her narration keeps me focused on her words. She's an excellent, thorough essayist as well.

[@eileenbauer4601]

Bee, thank you, thank you thank you! Thoroughly researched and compassionate. I used to watch the Duggars in their heyday. I loved the show and was fascinated by this seemingly “perfect” family. But my mom(now deceased), always said something was “off” about them! I bought Jinger’s book and am reading it now. I appreciate that Jinger has the courage to tell her own story, no doubt at a price we may never know. Great job on this documentary.❤️

[@betheecommentator]

You’re welcome!! Thank you thank you for your continued support!! I’m glad you found this informative and I hope you find her book insightful as well! Good for Jinger and I wish you all the best!! ❤️❤️

[@pbandjhaysandwich]

I absolutely love how informative this video is! Love the channel❤️ Every time a clip of Gothard spoke about “scripture” I felt like I was losing braincells.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching! So glad you like my channel and content. I’m working on a new video and I have to watch more of Gothards seminars and whew it’s rough. I agree with you. Feels like I’m losing my mind 🤣🤣

[@oliviabb73849]

This man actually told people that Doctors said you get sick if you’re bitter and guilty…

[@betheecommentator]

Right! Ridiculous, where is the medical proof to back that up? Science? Where??

[@tazylab6233]

It isn't completely wrong unhappy people tend to get sick more, but this doesn't means that if you got cancer is because of your sins

[@tazylab6233]

Is like he took half true and make them the whole true

[@donna6368]

I can see why the parents basically protected Josh. It makes me seriously wonder if they somehow blamed the victims by tempting him based on these false teachings.

[@jennymcfadden329]

I questioned why they would protect Josh unless they felt that his sins were because of something they had done wrong 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@jewels1004]

Poor Jana…. When Jinger was talking with Ally about the umbrella even when you’re 40. I’m 35 and still not married. Thankfully I have amazing parents, but I love having the freedom to work and have my own home and assets.

[@zeMusicluver]

I might be reading a little too deep into it (then again, with IBLP, maybe not) but I find it interesting that in Gothard's story about the woman who lost her boys to sea, it's HER fault for having the painting of a ship but definitely not the fault of the father who was LITERALLY A SEA CAPTAIN.

[@TPoPArt]

Really well done. I didn’t even know that she had written a book. I’m glad that she is working through what she has been through. I cannot imagine how hard this was.

[@katrinatorrance2326]

When I was 10 my older brother dued. A month later my stepfather (who had been molesting me) left my mother for someone else bc he couldn't be married to someone who allowed themselves not to have it together "just bc her kid died". After that my mom lost it. She needed to talk to someone, anyone. She got the phone book out one day and opened it and the first thing she found was the Mormon church. She called and they came right out to talk to her. After that we spent about 5 years in that church before I had enough and I told my mom that if she made me go back I would leave home. Eventually she saw the wrongs and cult life style of the Mormon church and left herself. The 10 years between the time my stepfather moves into our home and when I walked away from that church was the most horrible time of my life! I understand the fear, confusion, social disorders and every other feeling that comes with being in a cult type church. I applaud Jinger for making the steps to free herself. I am now 55 and am a Christian in a very good bible believing church that I love so very much.

[@valerief1231]

This was such a great piece of journalism, I really appreciate your story telling style without personal opinions, truly a professional body of work.

[@caroljoan3792]

I agree with you. It's very refreshing to not have personal opinions not expressed. Just truth spoken by Ginger.

[@catherinegearhart2102]

I can’t imagine going through one’s life in a constant state of (artificial and unnecessary) fear.

[@caroljoan3792]

It's horrible.

[@aina3387]

This channel did a really good job of picking out the cult beliefs of the Duggars and Gotthard and illustrating them. The My BFF's family was in this cult for a few years. They invited us to one of their meetings, and while the people were nice, my dad quickly realized it was a cult. They cut me and my family off for the years they were in this cult. We were supposedly too "secular" but it was because we listened to rock music and wore pants, not because of anything actually in the Bible. So glad Jinger is talking about this!

[@anaalvear21]

I don't plan on deconstructing from Christianity but I also grew up in the IBLP. I'm buying her book! It's been hard journey with therepy as I was a "bus kid" who was picked up starting from 12 years old but escaped a traumatic home... i was convinced it was the answer for so long! I'm so happy I listened to God and not man..... while others are saying that I'm backsliding from christ I have never felt more spiritually free in my relationship with christ and truly feel like I'm walking the path that's MEANT for me from God instead of listening to people saying what that path is....

[@betheecommentator]

Good for you and YOUR journey! I would highly encourage you to buy her book, it is very insightful. I wish you the best absolute best on your journey ❤️❤️

[@moxygirl5636]

Yes listen to God. Not man

[@emilyzachkitchen]

I love your deep dives! Your videos are always well researched and put together!! THANK YOU!

[@betheecommentator]

Wow thank you so much for your continued support and compliments, so much ❤️❤️

[@Mandalaaxo]

Cults ALWAYS have a man abusing his power with sexual misconducts. It's ALWAYS the case!!

[@betheecommentator]

Ugh that’s a good point and observation

[@viaddasmith1687]

Half way into this video and it’s brought me to 😢 as I have been raised in a very similar way. It’s so painful to know how many people this cult has turned people away from God and harmed them in devastating ways. The peace I have is that they will be held accountable for it one day.

[@sophiethelk9557]

I’m only a few minutes into the video, but I love when you discuss the Duggars on your channel and am excited to watch this one as well. It’s quite depressing what the Duggar kids (particularly the older daughters) had to endure, I can imagine that they’re very traumatized and brainwashed. I’m glad to see Jinger speaking up for all of the messed up things her parents believed in and put their kids through… very very cult like. Michelle and Jim Bob make me think of the transformed wife lady on Instagram and Twitter 😬

[@juliachildress2943]

Lori Alexander, the transformed wife, is a big fan of the Duggars and she has spoken out in a video against Jinger for "throwing her parents under the bus" [Lori's words] for writing this book.

[@phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690]

@@juliachildress2943 yes your right. Lori is a nutcase and dangerous for young girls and yet she has so many younger women brainwashed. I've gotten blocked from calling her out on here . She blames everything under the sun on women , feminism and women working . It's repetitive and she also gives misinformation about medical conditions and that's even more dangerous for children like my own daughter who has type 1 diabetes. She tried saying diet causes and cures it. There's no cure and diet doesn't cure it or cause it. That can kill someone

[@jeanzyc.5103]

I used to go to his seminars. I also went to a ridiculous Baptist school. Some of the teachers, pastor, principal all fell into the same sin they preached against. Watching the Duggar's made me think of the school I went to. My parents didn't raise me like this though. I used to wear jeans, bikinis, listened to Christian rock.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you for watching and sharing your story with us

[@darknsunny2638]

I really enjoyed this one. I grew up in a similar situation and it messed me up for years . I hope more people affected will listen to this and get peace

[@PsychoKupcake]

I grew up in Catholic school. When you question anything, you are told, "because the Bible says so." I just had questions bc there were contradictions in the Bible that made no sense and so I was in trouble.

[@Fiftynine414]

You went to a crummy catholic school. I too grew up in them and when I asked questions, I got solid answers that made sense. Thousands of years of great minds have formulated catholic beliefs. Check out “Catholic Answers” for Truth.

[@PsychoKupcake]

@California Dreamin’ Thanks, but I have done many years of research and studying. I'm an atheist now and everything finally makes sense.

[@evaadams8298]

Yes well I got thrown out of Religious instruction at school because I kept asking questions. I am from a family of atheists 😀

[@PsychoKupcake]

@Eva Adams it seems to be that way. You go to elementary or high school, both catholic, and then you turn atheists bc nothing else made sense.

[@migoreng7789]

i really enjoy how deep you dig and the information you present is often brand new to me, even if the subject is already familiar to me. thank you for all the hard work. i really appreciate all the videos, can't imagine how much time they take to make. also you never sensationalize anything, i like how you explain things in a very objective way. your videos are super informative but also easy to digest. i'm glad i found your channel ☺️

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for your continued support and every comment, you are so sweet!! I hope to continue providing content you enjoy ☺️

[@Fubs_the_queen]

Having not been raised in such a religious home (I was raised Episcopalian, though my moms Catholic upbringing definitely had an impact on immune) I was fascinated by this family growing up. There seemed to be this lovely family aura around them, where the older kids take on younger ones and there’s a sense of community. Now, as an adult, I easily recognize that the parents were dumping the little ones onto the older girls, not to mention the horrid abuse they suffered at the hands of their brother, and to extension, their parents again. I feel for all of the kids, but mostly the older girls. I’m sure they’re really struggling with their identities on top of their religious questioning (both of which I hope they find peace and truth on, no matter what path they follow, whether atheist, Christian, Jewish, Pagan, Muslim, etc!)

[@kkhagen2170]

I am so proud of her for even coming this far. I hope she comes further but so far she's come a long way

[@MaraJadeSkky]

All that harping on modesty and purity...meanwhile we all know how their oldest son was...

[@alliesteph6274]

And they don’t blame josh because this crazy teaching blames the 5 year old girl.

[@Chels-fz5uq]

It also seems like they harp on modesty and yet once they’re married…..there’s now an excuse for the man to have all the sex he wants….whether the wife wants it or not….it’s her “duty”….it’s disgusting!

[@thomashunter5707]

To true 4:54

[@Bigbaymonstermare]

BEAUTIFULLY done!’ As I always tell you, your voice, editing, research and production is all so perfect and well done. Your beautiful measured voice is so soothing. You are so impartial and honest and fair in your presentation of this. My only comment, the only thing wrong with this, is that it ended. I was disappointed it did not go on longer. I tell you every video, but I sincerely mean it, you’re awesome! You remind me of a close friend I have and anyone that gets to call you friend is lucky. You have a firm and lifelong devotee of your channel and content, and an internet friend. Good job!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@betheecommentator]

Awww thank you so much!! My heart dropped at the part where you wrote you were disappointed 🤣🤣 then I read the rest!!! You are too sweet, and you know I am so grateful and look forward to reading your comments!! Thank you so so much!! Have a great day/evening/night wherever you are at in the world 🌍 ❤️❤️

[@Melody-st4df]

Thank you for this honest testimony from Jinger which may hopefully raise awareness of the importance for critical thinking.

[@betheecommentator]

I hope so too, and thank you so much for watching!!

[@mariem8705]

I’m so proud of her. She has always been my favorite. I loved her first book and now I gotta get her other one! I honestly think she couldn’t have become this free without Jeremy.

[@FeechLaMannas]

Thank you for these deep dives, exposing how toxic and evil these quiverfull sects are!

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching as well as your continued support!

[@tarabattersby8129]

Another excellent deep dive Bee ❤ really appreciate your research, editing and I’m sure the many many hours of work that go into your work. Thank you and bravo 👏🏻

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much ❤️❤️ I appreciate your support and glad you like my content and channel!!

[@ameliashostak4764]

This is so well informed, thoughtful, and beautifully put together. I just stumbled onto this video and was blown away about how seamless everything was done. GREAT JOB and a TOP NOTCH video!

[@betheecommentator]

Wow! Thank you so much for watching as well as you compliments and feedback! Thank you ❤️❤️

[@ameliashostak4764]

@@betheecommentator I believe in giving credit where credit is due, and this video definitely deserves all the credit. I can't wait to check out your other video's!

[@teresacantrell9468]

Thank you Jinger for your insights and helping bring these teachings out into the open. So many similar experiences given in the comments. This is so widespread. Thank you dear one 🌹

[@melinehhacopians1184]

Im so honored 🎖 to be a member of your fabulous channel girl! ❤️

[@betheecommentator]

I’m so honored to have you!! You are THE BEST!! ❤️❤️

[@stephaniefriend9912]

So proud & happy for Jinger thinking outside the box. Her book Will help many, many, people being in a cult like situation & want a way out ❤️ Great video & commentary on the Duggers/IBLP. Love your channel 🙏

[@clairesherrera]

I’m sorry because I’m not sure why you don’t have more subscribers and views that you do because these videos are awesome. You can tell how much work you put into each video. The research that you do just to do these is a lot of work. I absolutely love the detail and how you go from the very beginning to the end. Great Job!! If you aren’t already you should look into audio recording because you do an awesome job.

[@betheecommentator]

Oh wow thank you so much for such kind words and feedback. That is so sweet!! I haven’t considered audio recordings but that’s a good idea!! Thank you ☺️❤️

[@theonlyladybella44480]

I can relate to her so much. Watching this isn't triggering but it is bringing up a lot of memories. Trying to live that life is exhausting. Having a relationship with Christ and accepting Him as savior is what is important.

[@suru01]

This cult is even worse than I thought. :(

[@Ilove2teach52]

Be you not playing with these KZbin streets. You dropping videos jammed packed with info💯🥇

[@betheecommentator]

That’s it and that’s all ❤️🤣 I appreciate you!!

[@GettinFiggyWitIt]

That man is so vile. The way he smiles while he tells stories like the widow with the sailing picture makes me want to throw up. He is just so proud of the fact that he has his followers in awe of him. Also, I would love to know what doctors he has been seeing that are quick to tell everyone that bitterness is what gives them illnesses. I feel so sad for anyone with a chronic or terminal illness who was a follower and was therefore made to feel as if it was their own fault. Way to kick the hell out of someone while they're already on the ground. Sick.

[@KaraNolting]

Beautifully done. I'm so proud of Jinger for being able to separate her faith from the cult teachings she was forced to adhere to - it shows just how intelligent she truly is.

[@misscdisaacs6248]

What a beautiful young lady & so proud of her!! I always always thought to myself that the way these children were raised was so abnormal. Despite that, this lady has turned out to be a wonderful young lady with great insight.

[@SniffyTugBoat]

they said rock always travels as a quartet and my first thought was, "nuh-uh, Rush is a power trio."

[@betheecommentator]

🤣🤣

[@Katieeeee12345]

The story about the widow and the boat painting. Holy moly wtf. I’m so glad she speaking up about the teachings she grew up with.

[@abigailsoto9600]

Omg !!! Yes!! That one had me like 🥹. What!!!!!! They will literally blame anything on the women. “You picked the wrong painting and brought the death of your husband and kids upon yourself” 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@the4thmusketeer]

I grew up united methodist, so nowhere even close to intensity she was born and raised in. We were always allowed to ask questions, and the threat of hell was never a concern as long as we helped others. It makes me sick that there are so many children having these fears and expectations forced on them at such early ages. From the SA victim blaming to the idea that a woman needs to have as many kids as she is able, even if it kills her, I can’t imagine being a child and thinking that’s the truth. Even though I am no longer religious in any way, I am so proud of Jinger for embracing her own faith and leaving those ridiculous rules and beliefs in the dust.

[@okoala62]

Excellent video- I’ve been in a cult-like/adjacent church- too small for others to know about it but strong enough to do damage to too many. I actively work with the youth in that church and have been teaching them to THINK CRITICALLY and question everything- especially what is taught in our “church” 😑 I can’t wait to share this video with them and talk about it- I know a lot of youth that NEED to deconstruct the awful stuff they have grown up believing

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much! I’m glad you found it informative and helpful and I’m glad you can use it to share and help others. That Larry about CRITICAL THINKING I thought was so profound and good for you for teaching your students that!! It’s important

[@DiamondTurtle]

Listening to Gothard talk about colon cancer being caused by a lack of fiber in your diet is insane. Idk what he hooks these people with initially, but it must be good because the deeper you go the crazier, less logical and more superstitious his theology becomes. The picture on the mantle is simply unbelievable.

[@maureenseel118]

The story of how she "accepted Jesus" and was convinced she was going to go to hell...I just finished writing my memoir about this and the way she explained the fear and insecurity in her faith. It resonated a little too much... My mom embraced fundamentalist Christian values too. We were told in school not to "tempt the boys" with how we dress...

[@user-bx4ti6ig3i]

You were allowed to go to school? Isn't that a no no?

[@angelapalmer6782]

@@user-bx4ti6ig3i I would imagine she was homeschooled. That's not something taught in public school.

[@jenniferhooper6471]

I mostly watch true crime you tubers but I get most excited when I’ve seen that you posted. The legwork and research you do is incredible. But your delivery and the way you edit and pick important clips is a gift. Thank you!

[@betheecommentator]

Oh wow thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy my content even though it’s a bit different than what you mostly watch. I truly appreciate your support!

[@0405aries]

My thoughts exactly.Stumbled on this today & absolutely refreshing & informative. You have a NEW SUBSCRIBER

[@betheecommentator]

@@0405aries ah thank you and welcome to my channel! So glad you stumbled upon it and even more thrilled that you enjoy my content!

[@juliachildress2943]

This is the first I've heard of your channel. Great job. I really appreciate you putting Gothard's own preaching on here. It really makes you wonder how any thinking person could possibly take him seriously.

[@betheecommentator]

Welcome! So glad you found my channel. Thank you for watching and providing your feedback!! I think it’s important that viewers see/hear information for themselves so I’m glad you found this video informative. I can’t get over the fact he said germs were “opportunistic agents”. 😮

[@annebalderston2520]

He seems to want to blame everything on women and wants to control their every move and thought.

[@juliachildress2943]

@@annebalderston2520 I really think that some men have a primitive/primal fear of women. Women produce and nurture new life with their bodies, which is mysterious and hints of hidden power. Women elicit feelings and physical effects in men that they have a hard time controlling. This is not even to mention the Freudian factor that men come into the world via their mother's privates and they nurse at their mother's breasts. So the answer? Keep women controlled and under wraps, keep them from recognizing their power by making them weak, turn them into property that serves men. I know this may sound crazy, and I don't think this is conscious, rational thinking on the part of men, but I do think it drives much of the controlling behavior of men who are inclined in that direction without them even knowing it.

[@mrmtoad]

As always, the depth of your research and content covered is excellent. Always look forward to new releases of content.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so so much!! I appreciate your continued support ❤️

[@michelleallred8521]

Here's a newsflash, Rock music's beginnings came from a mixture of GOSPEL & rhythm & blues. And the King of Rock n Roll actually got several awards for his gospel music

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

Elvis was hardly the king of anything. He was a thief and the poor people he stole from weren’t in a position to argue with him so people assume they were okay with him. They weren’t.

[@paulan7218]

newsflash Elvis was highly criticized for his sexual movement in his dancing.

[@med6399]

My heart goes out to her! She was raised in a family of spiritual ‘depravity’ - (i.e. = by the parents defending & harbouring a predator in their own family - who harmed other members of the family)! May she do well in the rest of her life!✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹

[@lisagaines1813]

Another incredibly informative and well put together summation of the Duggar debacle. I would enjoy seeing your take on Jerry Falwell’s son and the controversy surrounding him. Whatever subject you choose to cover next I know I’ll be watching.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching, I’m glad you found this informative and insightful. I’m not familiar with that person but I can definitely look into it. Thank you for the suggestion and recommendation!

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

Another great and informative video! I’m proud of Jinger, and she may guide a lot of young people to get away from that cult.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching! Glad you found it informative!

[@rachh155]

Thank you for another brilliant exposé, 👸 🐝 xx

[@JuliaJewels7]

I grew up Pentecostal, which is not the same, but shares a few similarities. I feel sooo sorry for all the Dugger girls. I understand Jinger being so constantly afraid of going to hell, my church school and family reinforced many of the beliefs in me that just manipulated me and made me constantly feel as if I was sinning, and I lived in constant fear of going to hell no matter how holy I tried to be

[@karenbochinski]

Love Jinger. I went to Bill Gothard many years ago and liked his teaching. I did not go down the rabbit hole like she was forced to. I always had trouble with the umbrella Bill talked about

[@Melody-st4df]

It's wonderful that she wasn't so damaged by the 'simpleton' preacher's dictatorial laws, and that she turned to Christ alone for Wisdom and Blessings. I will pray that her written words will reach her family still stuck in this one man cult as well as others. Thank you again.

[@kathrynmarie412]

Thanks! Just started watching this--THANK YOU! Your timing couldn't have been better. Always learn SO much from your hard work. Does anyone know when IBLP documentary comes out? I am anxiously awaiting to see that too.

[@betheecommentator]

Aww thank you so much!! You are too kind, thank you ☺️☺️❤️❤️

[@moeh3224]

I'm always newly impressed with each upload. Well done.

[@betheecommentator]

Oh wow thank you so much!!! Really!! Thank you

[@eej1983able]

Jinger...I am so proud of you. I had those same fears until I started doing more spiritual research 🙏 as long as love is our foundation we can be closer to God. I used to be terrified of certain teachings. Love to you Jinger!

[@betheecommentator]

Good for you!! ❤️❤️

[@eej1983able]

@BE THEE COMMENTATOR thank you 😊 I'm still a Christian as well but i found Lutheranism to be much more peaceful and accepting. I also do my own research on the side. Living in fear is never what God wanted.

[@debbieaylaian2402]

This is so heartbreaking and extremely relatable. I hope gingers courageous story helps many. May it also he!p her heal. Sending much support and understanding❤❤❤

[@bridget663]

Really well done, Be! 💜 It's awesome that Jinger has had revelations about IBLP, but it's important to remember that she still holds very harmful views.

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much for watching as well as your support 💕💕

[@lifestylewithnatalya]

What did she say that was harmful?

[@MyLoserBrain]

So I wasn't raised in a hellishly modest home but one time I wanted to wear a cute pair of shorts when goin to the bar with my mom an sister (I was like 21-22). My mom literally told me I couldn't wear the shorts cause "men will look at your legs". My response was "they'll look anyway". An she still tried to force me to change. I ended up not goin instead. Basically, modesty should be a choice, forcing it makes one feel self conscious. Makes you hate your body even.

[@betheecommentator]

Wow I’m so sorry you had to go through that. That’s terrible but I definitely agree with you re: how modesty should be a choice.

[@ThanksHermione]

It's sad how some people approach modesty. The Duggars and the like take it to an extreme.

[@GerryEscue]

I watched a episode of the Walton's. In the episode Erin one of the daughters, started dressing extremely modestly. In the show it showed that sometimes you draw more attention to yourself by doing that. How it was screaming for attention to yourself for being modest, the same as wearing an extremely short skirt. There has to be a balance in your own mind. I think the same holds true in a lot of different ways in the Dugger family. Like having 19 kids. How do normal people afford 19 kids. How do they give the attention to 19 kids, educate 19 kids. I know that every kid absorbs things differently. Don't you have to think that some of these teachings made Josh what he has become. What helped put him where he is. I feel sure that he couldn't talk to his parents about the "feelings" he was having. What are natural questions a teen would have, that they would have seen as sinful. Then when you add the teachings of their church into a confused and curious teen you can get what they got. Then you magnify the 14-year-old problem by letting the people that confused him in the first place to council him and then he becomes worse. Do not get me wrong, he deserves to be where he is, but I have to think he had a lot of help getting to where he is. @@ThanksHermione

[@a.s.4601]

Your docs are so well researched and presented.

[@Shannon_Moore]

Holy wow Be!! I'm so proud and happy for your growth! I haven't been to this channel in a little while and i swear u had about 5k subs and then just shot up to 40 in no time. U deserve it🙏❤

[@betheecommentator]

Aww that is so sweet, thank you! I remember you, so glad you’re still around and enjoyed this video! I appreciate your continued support so much!! ❤️❤️

[@mainwitchmeg]

Fantastic video as always BE 💖 I'm so glad Jinger was able to disentangle herself from the harmful beliefs she was subjected to for so many years. I hope she and her sisters find their peace 🙏🏻

[@betheecommentator]

Thank you so much!! I’m glad you enjoyed it. I agree with you, very proud of Jinger and I wish her family well ❤️❤️

[@patrizziad3446]

You're documentaries are fantastic. I click on it so fast when I get a notification.

[@betheecommentator]

Aww thank you so much!! I really appreciate your support. I hope you enjoy this and have a great day!! ❤️

[@aquachonk]

The real healing begins when an adult understands that all religions are crowd control and any spiritual understanding is an individual thing discovered privately.