My first job was a sanitary pad promoter in watsons many years ago. Every single day the staff(both genders) and customers(aunties) will ask me why I take up this embarrassing job, I am better off doing other things, why I promote such 'dirty' stuff, etc. It was so toxic that I couldn't take it after 1 week. It is so sad that the society still view it this way. I remember taking the job up gladly, wanting to promote this brand of necessity that works. But I felt so betrayed by my own people. 😔 Thank you thirsty sisters for this empowering podcast and affirming me that what I did was not anything to be ashamed of.
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Sanitary pads are essential for all women, nothing to feel ashamed of! More power to you for taking up the job despite of the negative perception of others 🙆♀️
@libraries1443 жыл бұрын
parents dont want their kids to play "opposite sex" toys cuz they scared they become gay.. but as society is becoming more accepting, i can see the next generation of children with gen Z/ late millennial parents to break the stereotype more
@hui2ng3 жыл бұрын
cannot really agree more ! we need both of you to speak up more and raise more such topics for awareness
@angelinacrizal3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ladies for this mind-blowing discussion!
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
TY for listening in sister ❤
@gillsharinder3 жыл бұрын
Doing a great job always girls!
@waitforitimlegendary2303 жыл бұрын
I think part of why the local series 复仇女王 was so popular + refreshing is because the plot not only portrayed women as strong and independent, it zoomed into the lives of such a variety of women who are not “domestic goddess” but instead, women who can “加班” and have respectable careers. It was a show that was ahead of times!
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
Yasssss 👊🏼
@yennbm18093 жыл бұрын
Have! 1 ch8 drama called qi er ba ba, chen han wei portrays a house husband, and li nan xing portrays a character transiting from career man to house husband :)
@chingztreetrunks80633 жыл бұрын
I think it’s great to start to break out of the narrative that society and history has insidiously put us in! but actually wouldn’t it be even better for us to use pronouns like “they” more commonly? Recently i attended a talk in my company regarding lgbt inclusion at the workplace and the way we assume that people are straight is also similarly, very insidious unless we also start to educate ourselves and see things in this new lens & make a conscious effort to break out of it. When i attended that talk i was also like quite mindblown in a similar way as Sylvia was lol!!
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
😍
@janiceh26883 жыл бұрын
This kind of views against women being inferior/lesser beings?? will definitely take a few more generations to die down. Whatever Singapore media portrays is mostly what the older generation thought of women that passed down. It is hard being who you want to be and empower what you believe in as a women in Singapore. I have very bad experiences with more old people (regardless of gender) than younger men in Singapore because it's usually the elders who pass their views down to their kids. When I was a teenager long time ago, I was called out for wearing sports shorts by an elderly man 20 metres away considered too short for him. When a family member found a sex toy of mine (I am an adult), I was considered a slut who had casual sex frequently even though it was clearly untrue and there was no evidence to back that up. That's why its important for the younger generation now to stop these stereotypes and bring up their future children with an open mind. :)
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Here's to hoping these views die down, but in the meantime lets work together to empower women and our sexual freedom 🤗
@cashmerehazel213 жыл бұрын
Wow, another episode back to back this week. Is this Sylvia's new house?
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
Yes! 😉
@michellequah12613 жыл бұрын
We can break the cycle…great podcast. You are doing it. It starts with awareness.
@cashmerehazel213 жыл бұрын
I actually kinda like that media is portraying such stereotypes of females being feminine and domestic-bound and a "decoration" for luxury car. Because when I finally jump in to fix the toilet, start up my own successful business and buy my own car, it makes the "surprise factor" more *wow!* Since women are not expected to do/have all that, it's more amazing to see what we can actually do in reality.
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA love your pov 😆
@kncnsm3 жыл бұрын
Men deal with less physical expectations vs women. What men deal with is hair loss, ability to provide for the family/earning power, and virility
@JSCookies3 жыл бұрын
I've always think those who are able to think/ break "out of the matrix" are people who are "ahead of our time" because our thinking is more advanced and forward while the people in the present doesn't necessarily understand/ still closed minded. Take the Avengers movie for example, there was a scene showing women empowerment where all female heroes came together and people weren't very happy about it or were making fun of it but it was different for me, I felt proud and happy for the actresses being able to get to that stage of progress in Hollywood and are actually making a difference. I feel every movement (those that doesn't put anyone in harm whatsoever) is great for moving forward to a better future where everyone is truly comfortable and happy without being feared of being different.
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Let's come together to support our ladies in the media rather than ridicule them for their efforts 🙌
@ABiteOfMe3 жыл бұрын
Hearing this, I'm very thankful for my father that raised me as a single parent, he'd never push the norm feminine toys or activities on me and rather he nurtured me to my interest. So while I learned cooking and piano, I'm also a black belt in Taekwondo and plays basketball.
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
Father's day is coming! Do smth special for your amazing dad! ❤
@ericneo37803 жыл бұрын
I'm an advocate for gender equality. Thanks Sylvia and Nina for making this!
@xuanyong31213 жыл бұрын
Okayyy i guess i have a good dad😅 he does ALL the chores at home and my mum is like the breadwinner of the family😆
@chloetkl023 жыл бұрын
there has definitely been more women empowerment in media in recent years! while this progress is encouraging, it really reminds us how much is already entrenched in our societies & our cultures. perhaps in korean dramas, we tend to applaud shows with strong women empowerment (search www is one i recently chanced upon) but also the fact that we really need to applaud them so much also shows how rare they are. our education is so different as well. in schools, generally, girls have higher grades / lower rates of dropping out globally but this translates to a pay gap with women earning less (and having to pay more because products tagged 'female' costs more) and taking on domestic roles. and when we're young - girls get praised for being mature, quiet, obedient but boys are acknowledged for being strong and active which is what really reinforced the stereotype. media & education can be scary. thank you for sharing about this!
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed and related to this episode 🥰
@colonlee86593 жыл бұрын
Chen Hanwei did act as a househusband in a drama called 企鹅爸爸
@soonsl_muffin_damien3 жыл бұрын
120/100!! Love your podcast and I'm a guy listening in too
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
Thank you babe 😇😆
@hx64993 жыл бұрын
the segment at 14:42 is a very touchy situation. Wouldnt you agree that if "Mr Muscle" was called Mrs toilet cleaner or something, couldn't that also be interpreted as females needing to take care of the house as in like adhering to the stereotype of females being stay-at-home wives? what would your take be on this?
@_linggg3 жыл бұрын
They could have just changed it to Ms Muscle and that would be good enough, it empowers women and shows that women are equally strong too. Or like Mr Toilet Cleaner (going by your example), to break that stereotype of females needing to take care of the house. Also, I remember the Mr Muscle ad literally being a random muscled dude in a superhero costume coming to the house of a lady to help her with her cleaning problems, and he actually doesn't even do anything aside from giving the bottle of cleaning solution to the lady. In this case it seems like the brand is still portraying that women need men to come and "rescue" them, which isn't necessarily true
@hx64993 жыл бұрын
@@_linggg ah i see you have a good point.
@oceanblu833 жыл бұрын
Really like your headphones.. the purple color looks so cool
@nicoleliang77003 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool perspective. Thanks for sharing it:) now I know why the female activists are so important. I never thought about things this way.
@sylsylchan3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the matrix sister 😎
@christopherwilliams83433 жыл бұрын
What do you think about this commercial?
@Joey-kf8qx3 жыл бұрын
I love the both of you so so much! ❤️
@Enchante...3 жыл бұрын
Even colors and names give subliminal division between gender...
@kenichichuah82863 жыл бұрын
Woahhhh another episode is finally out!
@elena_tay3 жыл бұрын
ima be honest as a teen girl surprisingly i never got told what to wear and what to do . my friends ,teachers,family etc doesn't say i have to wear dresses, i have to be feminine, they like me wearing baggy pants and shirt, they like me sitting like a ah seng xD and saying anything that i thought of [ i'm a taurus :P ] . and i am happy that i live with ppl that does'nt say what boy or girl needs to do .
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
We're glad these archaic mindsets are leaving with this generation!! 🤩
@yeow00083 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is the one who said another lady is never enough was another lady.....Crazy Rich Asians
@deliaaasss3 жыл бұрын
It’s because the media is made up of businesses and they are mainly interesting in profits which mean they are inclined to portray and appeal to social norm which then reinforces these social norms, so it’s kind of a vicious cycle sadly and imo it’s the younger generations over time that bring in newer ideas of social norm and way of life so it’s a really gradual thing that might happen after many years to come~
@paulineyeu42383 жыл бұрын
Media portrayal is simply the reflection of the true society. If they produce a show otherwise viewers say it’s 不真实. I’m a super out-of-line woman whom no guys ever take seriously simply because I don’t dress up. I don’t put on make up. I don’t do my eyebrows. I mean, why should I? I am not going to change my image just to break that single cycle. Guys’ general expectation on women, is why we live day by day trying to upkeep an acceptable image. While we are perfectly fine even if our men are balding or tummy bulging.
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Empowering women means all women can do whatever they want with their bodies, stay strong sister 💪
@horriblynarcissistic3 жыл бұрын
Also, why are female products (essential products for us like bra and sanitary pad) so expensive?
@DGrayMan1809943 жыл бұрын
There are probably females who are managing the female essential product company but there's still no changes. My reasoning is probably due to company being company. Profit is what they care.
@grapedfruit3 жыл бұрын
This episode quite meaningful eh 👍🏻
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
We're working on more meaningful content for you ladies 🥰
@samcherws3 жыл бұрын
thank you zoomer producers for making them do more episodes haha
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
You're always welcome 😉
@jessical50363 жыл бұрын
Yes, gender inequality still happens when I was young. But I'm good with now as no longer staying with my family currently. A little freedom for me :) But I think is much better now as long parents give equal treatment to the children. Love to watch from youtube instead of podcast so that could see Sylvia and Nina's expression
@howmanyblackouts3 жыл бұрын
Invite the zoomers into your podcast and do a millennials vs zoomers themed episode!! (:
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
This sounds FUN. We'll see what we can do!
@user-wp4vw5wk9b3 жыл бұрын
Yessss plsss sista
@biogenie3 жыл бұрын
Agree with a lot of what the you are saying. But the truth is traditional media is dying. Not sure if I see anyone knows any Zoomers here watch tv? The ads that make rise to NOC and the other online platforms are very different. It’s more product placement. Product focused etc. In terms of Mr Muscle just a product name la… it’s like Mama Lemon? Equivalent of Mr Muscle is Duck duck? So we want to say only ducks can save us? Lol… chill chill
@crehmenti3 жыл бұрын
YAY so NOC has volunteered to be doing what they preach :)
@kieronfooz_3 жыл бұрын
Whoever disliked this video has no taste in podcasts.
@sarahtan19773 жыл бұрын
Recently bmw has an ad with a female driver :)
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion, we'll check it out 🤗
@Venicevoo3 жыл бұрын
i want play nerf gun but my mother dont let me 😢
@bloodyquuen57833 жыл бұрын
Coz in reality gender equality is still not reflected properly. My mother always told me MUST learn how to cook properly and do housework properly. If not next time your husband will run away and find another woman. Or you must give birth no matter what or your husband will run away. Why girl must do this kind of thing?
@Mandingo173 жыл бұрын
If a woman can’t cook or clean or won’t give your husband a kid, what can you offer to him that should make him stay?..
@beckham483 жыл бұрын
gen z they are more open and vocals, think they don't even bother about female having to cook or take care of babies, it should be balance , but spore we are still traditional with asian values, the baby still bear the surname of dad as in the past babies and women are all property of men, but now women are rising to the mark and stars like Dua lipa , her songs don't victimize women but empower them , each person is unique in their own way if boys like ballet or women like wushu they should be able to do what they like it shouldn't be view as stereotype, I purchase ninja turtle when I was young I thank my parents for allowing me to buy wat I want and not wat girls should play, no matter wat the girls do, people are there to make comment 🤷
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Lets work together to garner more positive representation of women in the media for our future generations 🥰
@ruyan993 жыл бұрын
I think it is not just the media industries that objectify women, even within most of our asian households upbringing is that man holds a much more important role in the family compared to women. Man is always the head and decision maker, regardless of their capabilities. PS: Strangely, most of the vulgar words are always about women.
@waliaowee3 жыл бұрын
I really doubt there's any significant gender gap in singapore today. Girls r doing much better than boys academically. And i dont see my girl friends do household chores any better than the guys. Infact most of my guy friends cook for their wife, clean the house, clean the toilet etc. And their wives r also earning more than them. From what i see in singapore, younger generation esp, we r pretty equal.
@casstsj3 жыл бұрын
There’s still many more things than just that
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
That's the trend we see with Gen Z but its great to know how these stereotypes came about! 🙌
@yeow00083 жыл бұрын
The older ladies in our society (the target customers) are more likely to look at Mr Muscle than Ms Steady (a good looking fit lady which may make them feel worse about their bodies). Which is why in many very expensive female perfume adverts always got very sexy muscle men. Which also explains the very 'off' reason of putting sexy women in expensive car adverts
@gisellelim50343 жыл бұрын
Hi
@kncnsm3 жыл бұрын
It also doesn't help that some influencers continue to objectify themselves in pursuit of followers by showing more skin
@Venicevoo3 жыл бұрын
im mixed of the diversity. nerd + skinny = me 🥳❤️
@yexinxin55883 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍💛🧡💜I love 😍💖Sylvia Chan💜😍💖💙💚😍😍😍
@kncnsm3 жыл бұрын
Is it also sexist that domestic helpers are all females and construction workers are all male? Does MOM define who can be a domestic helper or construction worker?
@astrolight50003 жыл бұрын
A lot of these standards are also imposed by women. So perhaps more sensitivity before playing the blame game on the other gender would be more reasonable. It’s also our fault as women for buying into what is today’s beauty standards. We don’t deserve to be coddled either. Independence is also part of our responsibility.
@jaceeeee333333 жыл бұрын
WOAH GETTING WOKE
@TheThirstySisters3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the matrix babe 😎
@YN-ix2ti3 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts on plastic surgery and social stigma of men wearing makeup? :)