Biggest Conspiracy Ever?? Women Bullied by the Media for Decades | The Thirsty Sisters #39

[@tomatography24]

My first job was a sanitary pad promoter in watsons many years ago. Every single day the staff(both genders) and customers(aunties) will ask me why I take up this embarrassing job, I am better off doing other things, why I promote such 'dirty' stuff, etc. It was so toxic that I couldn't take it after 1 week. It is so sad that the society still view it this way. I remember taking the job up gladly, wanting to promote this brand of necessity that works. But I felt so betrayed by my own people. 😔 Thank you thirsty sisters for this empowering podcast and affirming me that what I did was not anything to be ashamed of.

[@TheThirstySisters]

Sanitary pads are essential for all women, nothing to feel ashamed of! More power to you for taking up the job despite of the negative perception of others 🙆‍♀️

[@libraries144]

parents dont want their kids to play "opposite sex" toys cuz they scared they become gay.. but as society is becoming more accepting, i can see the next generation of children with gen Z/ late millennial parents to break the stereotype more

[@hui2ng]

cannot really agree more ! we need both of you to speak up more and raise more such topics for awareness

[@angelinacrizal]

Thank you ladies for this mind-blowing discussion!

[@sylsylchan]

TY for listening in sister ❤

[@gillsharinder]

Doing a great job always girls!

[@waitforitimlegendary230]

I think part of why the local series 复仇女王 was so popular + refreshing is because the plot not only portrayed women as strong and independent, it zoomed into the lives of such a variety of women who are not “domestic goddess” but instead, women who can “加班” and have respectable careers. It was a show that was ahead of times!

[@sylsylchan]

Yasssss 👊🏼

[@yennbm1809]

Have! 1 ch8 drama called qi er ba ba, chen han wei portrays a house husband, and li nan xing portrays a character transiting from career man to house husband :)

[@chingztreetrunks8063]

I think it’s great to start to break out of the narrative that society and history has insidiously put us in! but actually wouldn’t it be even better for us to use pronouns like “they” more commonly? Recently i attended a talk in my company regarding lgbt inclusion at the workplace and the way we assume that people are straight is also similarly, very insidious unless we also start to educate ourselves and see things in this new lens & make a conscious effort to break out of it. When i attended that talk i was also like quite mindblown in a similar way as Sylvia was lol!!

[@sylsylchan]

😍

[@janiceh2688]

This kind of views against women being inferior/lesser beings?? will definitely take a few more generations to die down. Whatever Singapore media portrays is mostly what the older generation thought of women that passed down. It is hard being who you want to be and empower what you believe in as a women in Singapore. I have very bad experiences with more old people (regardless of gender) than younger men in Singapore because it's usually the elders who pass their views down to their kids. When I was a teenager long time ago, I was called out for wearing sports shorts by an elderly man 20 metres away considered too short for him. When a family member found a sex toy of mine (I am an adult), I was considered a slut who had casual sex frequently even though it was clearly untrue and there was no evidence to back that up. That's why its important for the younger generation now to stop these stereotypes and bring up their future children with an open mind. :)

[@TheThirstySisters]

Here's to hoping these views die down, but in the meantime lets work together to empower women and our sexual freedom 🤗

[@cashmerehazel21]

Wow, another episode back to back this week. Is this Sylvia's new house?

[@sylsylchan]

Yes! 😉

[@michellequah1261]

We can break the cycle…great podcast. You are doing it. It starts with awareness.

[@cashmerehazel21]

I actually kinda like that media is portraying such stereotypes of females being feminine and domestic-bound and a "decoration" for luxury car. Because when I finally jump in to fix the toilet, start up my own successful business and buy my own car, it makes the "surprise factor" more *wow!* Since women are not expected to do/have all that, it's more amazing to see what we can actually do in reality.

[@sylsylchan]

HAHAHAHAHA love your pov 😆

[@kncnsm]

Men deal with less physical expectations vs women. What men deal with is hair loss, ability to provide for the family/earning power, and virility

[@JSCookies]

I've always think those who are able to think/ break "out of the matrix" are people who are "ahead of our time" because our thinking is more advanced and forward while the people in the present doesn't necessarily understand/ still closed minded. Take the Avengers movie for example, there was a scene showing women empowerment where all female heroes came together and people weren't very happy about it or were making fun of it but it was different for me, I felt proud and happy for the actresses being able to get to that stage of progress in Hollywood and are actually making a difference. I feel every movement (those that doesn't put anyone in harm whatsoever) is great for moving forward to a better future where everyone is truly comfortable and happy without being feared of being different.

[@TheThirstySisters]

Yes!!! Let's come together to support our ladies in the media rather than ridicule them for their efforts 🙌

[@ABiteOfMe]

Hearing this, I'm very thankful for my father that raised me as a single parent, he'd never push the norm feminine toys or activities on me and rather he nurtured me to my interest. So while I learned cooking and piano, I'm also a black belt in Taekwondo and plays basketball.

[@sylsylchan]

Father's day is coming! Do smth special for your amazing dad! ❤

[@ericneo3780]

I'm an advocate for gender equality. Thanks Sylvia and Nina for making this!

[@xuanyong3121]

Okayyy i guess i have a good dad😅 he does ALL the chores at home and my mum is like the breadwinner of the family😆

[@chloetkl02]

there has definitely been more women empowerment in media in recent years! while this progress is encouraging, it really reminds us how much is already entrenched in our societies & our cultures. perhaps in korean dramas, we tend to applaud shows with strong women empowerment (search www is one i recently chanced upon) but also the fact that we really need to applaud them so much also shows how rare they are. our education is so different as well. in schools, generally, girls have higher grades / lower rates of dropping out globally but this translates to a pay gap with women earning less (and having to pay more because products tagged 'female' costs more) and taking on domestic roles. and when we're young - girls get praised for being mature, quiet, obedient but boys are acknowledged for being strong and active which is what really reinforced the stereotype. media & education can be scary. thank you for sharing about this!

[@TheThirstySisters]

Glad you enjoyed and related to this episode 🥰

[@colonlee8659]

Chen Hanwei did act as a househusband in a drama called 企鹅爸爸

[@soonsl_muffin_damien]

120/100!! Love your podcast and I'm a guy listening in too

[@sylsylchan]

Thank you babe 😇😆

[@hx6499]

the segment at 14:42 is a very touchy situation. Wouldnt you agree that if "Mr Muscle" was called Mrs toilet cleaner or something, couldn't that also be interpreted as females needing to take care of the house as in like adhering to the stereotype of females being stay-at-home wives? what would your take be on this?

[@_linggg]

They could have just changed it to Ms Muscle and that would be good enough, it empowers women and shows that women are equally strong too. Or like Mr Toilet Cleaner (going by your example), to break that stereotype of females needing to take care of the house. Also, I remember the Mr Muscle ad literally being a random muscled dude in a superhero costume coming to the house of a lady to help her with her cleaning problems, and he actually doesn't even do anything aside from giving the bottle of cleaning solution to the lady. In this case it seems like the brand is still portraying that women need men to come and "rescue" them, which isn't necessarily true

[@hx6499]

@@_linggg ah i see you have a good point.

[@oceanblu83]

Really like your headphones.. the purple color looks so cool

[@nicoleliang7700]

This is a really cool perspective. Thanks for sharing it:) now I know why the female activists are so important. I never thought about things this way.

[@sylsylchan]

Welcome to the matrix sister 😎

[@christopherwilliams8343]

What do you think about this commercial?

[@Joey-kf8qx]

I love the both of you so so much! ❤️

[@Enchante...]

Even colors and names give subliminal division between gender...

[@kenichichuah8286]

Woahhhh another episode is finally out!

[@elena_tay]

ima be honest as a teen girl surprisingly i never got told what to wear and what to do . my friends ,teachers,family etc doesn't say i have to wear dresses, i have to be feminine, they like me wearing baggy pants and shirt, they like me sitting like a ah seng xD and saying anything that i thought of [ i'm a taurus :P ] . and i am happy that i live with ppl that does'nt say what boy or girl needs to do .

[@TheThirstySisters]

We're glad these archaic mindsets are leaving with this generation!! 🤩

[@yeow0008]

The funny thing is the one who said another lady is never enough was another lady.....Crazy Rich Asians

[@deliaaasss]

It’s because the media is made up of businesses and they are mainly interesting in profits which mean they are inclined to portray and appeal to social norm which then reinforces these social norms, so it’s kind of a vicious cycle sadly and imo it’s the younger generations over time that bring in newer ideas of social norm and way of life so it’s a really gradual thing that might happen after many years to come~

[@paulineyeu4238]

Media portrayal is simply the reflection of the true society. If they produce a show otherwise viewers say it’s 不真实. I’m a super out-of-line woman whom no guys ever take seriously simply because I don’t dress up. I don’t put on make up. I don’t do my eyebrows. I mean, why should I? I am not going to change my image just to break that single cycle. Guys’ general expectation on women, is why we live day by day trying to upkeep an acceptable image. While we are perfectly fine even if our men are balding or tummy bulging.

[@TheThirstySisters]

Empowering women means all women can do whatever they want with their bodies, stay strong sister 💪

[@horriblynarcissistic]

Also, why are female products (essential products for us like bra and sanitary pad) so expensive?

[@DGrayMan180994]

There are probably females who are managing the female essential product company but there's still no changes. My reasoning is probably due to company being company. Profit is what they care.

[@grapedfruit]

This episode quite meaningful eh 👍🏻

[@TheThirstySisters]

We're working on more meaningful content for you ladies 🥰

[@samcherws]

thank you zoomer producers for making them do more episodes haha

[@TheThirstySisters]

You're always welcome 😉

[@jessical5036]

Yes, gender inequality still happens when I was young. But I'm good with now as no longer staying with my family currently. A little freedom for me :) But I think is much better now as long parents give equal treatment to the children. Love to watch from youtube instead of podcast so that could see Sylvia and Nina's expression

[@howmanyblackouts]

Invite the zoomers into your podcast and do a millennials vs zoomers themed episode!! (:

[@TheThirstySisters]

This sounds FUN. We'll see what we can do!

[@user-wp4vw5wk9b]

Yessss plsss sista

[@biogenie]

Agree with a lot of what the you are saying. But the truth is traditional media is dying. Not sure if I see anyone knows any Zoomers here watch tv? The ads that make rise to NOC and the other online platforms are very different. It’s more product placement. Product focused etc. In terms of Mr Muscle just a product name la… it’s like Mama Lemon? Equivalent of Mr Muscle is Duck duck? So we want to say only ducks can save us? Lol… chill chill

[@crehmenti]

YAY so NOC has volunteered to be doing what they preach :)

[@kieronfooz_]

Whoever disliked this video has no taste in podcasts.

[@sarahtan1977]

Recently bmw has an ad with a female driver :)

[@TheThirstySisters]

Thank you for the suggestion, we'll check it out 🤗

[@Venicevoo]

i want play nerf gun but my mother dont let me 😢

[@bloodyquuen5783]

Coz in reality gender equality is still not reflected properly. My mother always told me MUST learn how to cook properly and do housework properly. If not next time your husband will run away and find another woman. Or you must give birth no matter what or your husband will run away. Why girl must do this kind of thing?

[@Mandingo17]

If a woman can’t cook or clean or won’t give your husband a kid, what can you offer to him that should make him stay?..

[@beckham48]

gen z they are more open and vocals, think they don't even bother about female having to cook or take care of babies, it should be balance , but spore we are still traditional with asian values, the baby still bear the surname of dad as in the past babies and women are all property of men, but now women are rising to the mark and stars like Dua lipa , her songs don't victimize women but empower them , each person is unique in their own way if boys like ballet or women like wushu they should be able to do what they like it shouldn't be view as stereotype, I purchase ninja turtle when I was young I thank my parents for allowing me to buy wat I want and not wat girls should play, no matter wat the girls do, people are there to make comment 🤷

[@TheThirstySisters]

Lets work together to garner more positive representation of women in the media for our future generations 🥰

[@ruyan99]

I think it is not just the media industries that objectify women, even within most of our asian households upbringing is that man holds a much more important role in the family compared to women. Man is always the head and decision maker, regardless of their capabilities. PS: Strangely, most of the vulgar words are always about women.

[@waliaowee]

I really doubt there's any significant gender gap in singapore today. Girls r doing much better than boys academically. And i dont see my girl friends do household chores any better than the guys. Infact most of my guy friends cook for their wife, clean the house, clean the toilet etc. And their wives r also earning more than them. From what i see in singapore, younger generation esp, we r pretty equal.

[@casstsj]

There’s still many more things than just that

[@TheThirstySisters]

That's the trend we see with Gen Z but its great to know how these stereotypes came about! 🙌

[@yeow0008]

The older ladies in our society (the target customers) are more likely to look at Mr Muscle than Ms Steady (a good looking fit lady which may make them feel worse about their bodies). Which is why in many very expensive female perfume adverts always got very sexy muscle men. Which also explains the very 'off' reason of putting sexy women in expensive car adverts

[@gisellelim5034]

Hi

[@kncnsm]

It also doesn't help that some influencers continue to objectify themselves in pursuit of followers by showing more skin

[@Venicevoo]

im mixed of the diversity. nerd + skinny = me 🥳❤️

[@yexinxin5588]

😍😍😍💛🧡💜I love 😍💖Sylvia Chan💜😍💖💙💚😍😍😍

[@kncnsm]

Is it also sexist that domestic helpers are all females and construction workers are all male? Does MOM define who can be a domestic helper or construction worker?

[@astrolight5000]

A lot of these standards are also imposed by women. So perhaps more sensitivity before playing the blame game on the other gender would be more reasonable. It’s also our fault as women for buying into what is today’s beauty standards. We don’t deserve to be coddled either. Independence is also part of our responsibility.

[@jaceeeee33333]

WOAH GETTING WOKE

[@TheThirstySisters]

Welcome to the matrix babe 😎

[@YN-ix2ti]

Your thoughts on plastic surgery and social stigma of men wearing makeup? :)

[@yexinxin5588]

😍😍😍💛🧡💜I love you💖💙💚😍😍😍