Biggest Natlan Reveals From 5.1 (Abyss WAIFU Confirmed?!?) | Genshin Impact Lore

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@lathamtk
@lathamtk Ай бұрын
Will you make a predictions video in anticipation of 5.3 and what we'll find in the Abyss, and exactly who or what we'll be fighting with Mauvika?
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
For the first time in a while, I don't think I will. The upcoming events of the final Archon Quest involve so many compounding potentialities to the point where speculation is rendered almost futile. For the first time ever, the Traveler will be stepping into uncharted territories with the sole company of Mavuika against a mysterious enemy. So many things could happen that it's hard to really predict the ultimate outcome. For example, Xbalanque could show up, or a Sinner might make a first appearance, and then we have whatever Il Capitano is doing with Yohualtecuhtin and Ronova. This is without taking into account the external contributions of all the side characters. Instead of all that headache, I am just gonna focus on the Lore Theories I have prepared in the background right now (and I have A LOT of them) since some of them are quite interesting topics. If I manage to get through all of them then I might consider a feable 5.3 Archon Quest predictions video.
@Necrochaosium
@Necrochaosium Ай бұрын
@@DragonMJE The sinner's themselves although they only came into their powers maybe at the start of the eclipse dynasty (or at the height of the cataclysm) will likely play a huge role in the evolving story. My tinfoil theory is that the sinners "consumed" portions of the "second who came" power after they were destroyed to transform themselves into their current forms.
@matrixfull
@matrixfull Ай бұрын
@@DragonMJE Oh that's nice! I guess Skirk probably won't be in next part of archon quest. But yeaaa there are probably many side stories that are overlooked. It'll be fun to learn about these!
@nabieladrian
@nabieladrian Ай бұрын
At this point, Nyx should appear just like how Skirk did.
@Pre4xes_
@Pre4xes_ 29 күн бұрын
​@@nabieladrian do you think nyx exists In genshin?
@danieldodson6789
@danieldodson6789 Ай бұрын
On the topic of the broken moon beyond the sky, there is a short world quest involving a "star fragment," in the westernmost corner of Natlan. The fragment itself looks a lot like the fragments of that moon. And during the quest, it is revealed that there are apparently legends about people reuniting the fragments of a fallen star and being granted powers for doing so. Granted that legend is told to us by a literal child, so a grain of salt applies. Additionally, another little fact of potentially no lore significance, is that this "star fragment" bears a distinct materials pattern called the Widmanstätten pattern, and is only found in meteorites because of the conditions for forming the pattern only exist in space.
@ZetaMoolah
@ZetaMoolah Ай бұрын
👀👀👀👀👀
@kiyoqqq
@kiyoqqq Ай бұрын
so prob a connection to the meteorites scara found and learned abt the false sky from
@DrakeWurrum
@DrakeWurrum Ай бұрын
From some searching into the original inspiration of Yog-Sothoth: "In one case involving the town of Dunwich, Yog-Sothoth is known to have been summoned for the purposes of impregnating a human female, who then gave birth to two partially-human children." Ayo? I feel like you need to do a video on her sooner rather than later, because now I'm wondering if the Traveler twins might by children of the Abyss instead of gods of light.... Alternatively, this could explain the true origins of the people of Khaen'riah, if not the "gods" of Teyvat along with their association with the Ars Goetia...
@marinarose3343
@marinarose3343 Ай бұрын
Especially since Gold summoned Abyssal creatures like "wishes", and now it's heavily implied that the twins were summoned through this same process as well... 👀
@Owudukan
@Owudukan Ай бұрын
Omg the abyss invading tyvat is just their mom/dad taking them Abyss : AY YO CELESTIA OPEN UP THAT FIRMAMENT AND SPIT MY KIDS OUT NOW Celestia:zzz Abyss :ok that's it *trys to destroy teyvat * Might explain why abyss twin is well with the abyss
@latias6745
@latias6745 Ай бұрын
Holy fuc-
@pseudotangerine9687
@pseudotangerine9687 21 күн бұрын
Oh this is interesting because the two children were monster-like in appearance, with one moreso than the other. One of the children looked relatively normal, just ugly, and had, i believe, goat hindquarters? The other one was an eldritch abomination that literally could not be perceived by the naked eye, and required a special powder to be cast in order to be seen, but of course, seeing the monstrous twin caused a great deal of damage to the psyche because of it not adhering to the realm of logic. Also interesting is that in the Dunwich Horror specifically, which is the second Lovecraft story Yogsothoth appears in, the mother of the two monster children, Lavinia Whately is described to be albino (so white hair, red eyes, which fits a lot of characters in the Hoyoverse), and her father, Old Whately, who is likely an insane cultist magician and was the one who taught most of what his grandson, Wilbur Whately, child of Lavinia and Yogsothoth, what he knows.
@DrakeWurrum
@DrakeWurrum 21 күн бұрын
@@pseudotangerine9687 - hrm... That just makes me wonder more about the origin of dragons and why they seem to keep turning human...
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy Ай бұрын
The Harbengers might have more Khaenreans than Sneznians at this point
@NatureWatcher343
@NatureWatcher343 Ай бұрын
Pierro, Capitano, Peruere... And who else? Zandik is from Sumeru (right above Khaenri'ah), while the rest seem to be from the other Nations. Pulcinella is likely from Snezhnaya given that he is the Mayor of the Capital. Columbina is unknown, but she might be a Seelie.
@res6148
@res6148 Ай бұрын
Pierro, Capitano, Peruere... And who else? Zandik is from Sumeru (right above Khaenri'ah), while the rest seem to be from the other Nations. Pulcinella is likely from Snezhnaya given that he is the Mayor of the Capital. Columbina is unknown, but she might be a Seelie.
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 Ай бұрын
Bro used his two accounts to comment the same thing 😅.
@danieldodson6789
@danieldodson6789 Ай бұрын
I mean this guy does have a point. We have 3 Khanreans. With only 1 confirmed Sneznian: Tartar Sauce (aka Childe), and one other who is likely, for a grand total of 2. So far, the Khanrians win.
@stacy7721
@stacy7721 Ай бұрын
Pulxinello​@@danieldodson6789
@Necrochaosium
@Necrochaosium Ай бұрын
Another thing about the quest that was revealed is how the abyss itself copies and reproduces things from teyvat to use as weapons. We have that shapeshifting abyssal "flower" that can become almost any entity. (this was also shown in muatani's quest in 5.1 also) I like that you linked wayobs with the "guardian angels" of the unified civilization, wayobs themselves are like guardian angels of the night kingdom reflecting peoples wishes to protect themselves from the the darkness of the abyss. The relationship to abyssal inquisitors, jacob (formed by eating pieces of elynas), all that borrowed power. The kinship between durin and elynas with almost identical stories . (decent entities trapped within nightmare forms and clouded by delusions by who knows what). Gold herself who seems to been made insane (with lucid moments), makes me think also that alice found some way to stabilize gold's insanity. We still have the unknown formation of ousia and pnuema in fontaine that hasnt been explained fully which is likely related to the whole phlogistan energy -> elemental energy
@BlueDaisy33
@BlueDaisy33 Ай бұрын
i swear Kaeya becomes more and more sus every patch, like that boy knows something. anyway time to reread princess Mina and get a headache
@AIA222-yu5ml
@AIA222-yu5ml Ай бұрын
I really hope we get 5* version of Kaeya like Dan Heng IL and Tingyun Fugue from HSR.
@Fellow1999
@Fellow1999 Ай бұрын
Even Bennett become sus when natlan came.... So kaeya is definitely...❤
@Gnidel
@Gnidel Ай бұрын
I think "the price is death" doesn't mean that the user will die. I think it means giving away death, making the person unable to die. Functionally cursing the person with the curse of immortality. If Capitano has the power of Ronova, it could mean that the user of her power in Khaenri'ah failed to pay the price so the rest of the nation paid it, cursing entire nation.
@Shiro-the-Hero
@Shiro-the-Hero Ай бұрын
That's an interesting interpretation... I never thought about it like that.
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
Very good idea and could be the case too.
@Zeke1460
@Zeke1460 Ай бұрын
This is a REALLY COOL interpretation of what Ronova said. If the price of that power is indeed a person’s “death” in that they GIVE UP their death, then one of the 5 sinners, or maybe Irmin himself, also has the powers of Ronova. Mavuika also says that the power gained from Ronova is the same regardless of a person’s ability to witstand it. If it was Irmin who tried to gain this power, then it’s possible that he wasn’t able to withstand it since he wasn’t an archon, and that’s why he became “indisposed” during the cataclysm. He might be physically crippled due to her power.
@generaltoszur1036
@generaltoszur1036 Ай бұрын
Yeah but if xbalanque borrowed her powers probably before kheanriah existed and she succumbed to self pity after that then would she borrow her power to another person after that ? And if the curse of immortality was just a consequence because someone borrowed her power and failed to pay for it then why would so many people like our sibling , dain or clothar be so hell bend on calling it a punishment of the gods and i would assume that at least someone especially our sibling should know about it since they are one of the final villains and they should know about it just because of that
@Rozherhn
@Rozherhn Ай бұрын
There is only one problem in that, the immortality that Capitano has is the product of abyss and not of a curse as such. It is possible that if Mavuika dies but revives like an immortal being, through the 6 heroes who will give her power to save her and we will bela.vlaveto carry it out.                                                                                                                                                                              Ronova sure told him very vague things about what was going to be done but not the future itself, I didn't even know that the traveler would be key in all these.
@Raininpain
@Raininpain Ай бұрын
Fun thing about the localization the achievement for meeting Capitano is "The General in his Labyrinth". Also for some reason the Localization team wants to downplay Capitano's feats.
@victorpedrosoceolin3919
@victorpedrosoceolin3919 Ай бұрын
Can you give me an example?
@ReverseElectro
@ReverseElectro Ай бұрын
To be honest, at this point, between your old explanation using Jakob Baker and Neuvillette along with Arlecchino and now the Wayob, I think that the theory of Khaenri'ahns being directly related to Seelies has surpassed the point of speculation. We're now just waiting for Hoyoverse to outright confirm it. The evidence is just too overwhelming in favour of that.
@AlexisNess-mn4zw
@AlexisNess-mn4zw Ай бұрын
And Childes foul legacy looking like a seelie
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Ай бұрын
I feel like one of the first links was the Eclipse Dynasties of Khaenri'ah. Both Solar and Lunar. What's also interesting is how the star or Ishtar represents both Istaroth and the Solar Eclipse Dynasty.
@Luxuani
@Luxuani Ай бұрын
I wonder if the Khaenri'ahns are the nephilim, which were confirmed to be canon in 4.7 through an imaginarium theater book, essentially a mix between fallen angels and humans, who drink blood. It would explain the people of the crimson moon dynasty I think it could also be what happened when the seelies and the moon sisters fell, when they witnessed the marriage between a human and a seelie. I wonder if that was more of a metaphor, not exactly marriage, but more so the creation of the nephilim (offspring seelies and humans, in genshin's case) being forbidden. so now the nephilim go underground and create khaenri'ah and the crimson moon dynasty, worshipping the corpse of what would essentially be their god This all also matches well with the timeline, Khaenri'ah was created within that era pretty sure
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 Ай бұрын
This is wrong. Outside of a few symbols which can be interpreted this way to support the assumption, there is nothing concrete pointing towards Khaenri'ahs being human-Angel hybrids or something similar, it is simply pure speculation. Notice how he brings up Arlecchino's wings to reinforce the theory, but picks out the parts where she resembles a spider :D This theory also brings more questions than answers, since we can instantly ask, why did the Heavenly Principles not destroy Khaenri'ah if the people there were the result of a forbidden union? This is just the average mediocre Genshin theory if I'm honest, with large jumps and gaps in logic, minimal evidence and the usual reading issues :/
@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681
@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681 Ай бұрын
Yeah,,,, i mean they're so sussy especially their power also like mostly surpass a normal human being, there's must be something that make them so strong,
@NatureWatcher343
@NatureWatcher343 Ай бұрын
When I read "Abyss Waifu" I knew EXACTLY what you were going to talk about...
@tylosenpai6920
@tylosenpai6920 Ай бұрын
Though that looks more like a cnnuy-
@_jn0298
@_jn0298 Ай бұрын
7:49 Deshret Mention...wait wrong channel
@The_original_one
@The_original_one Ай бұрын
Dasrat is way too much involved in lore of genshin Bruh
@adir6094
@adir6094 Ай бұрын
LMAOOO
@rue1533
@rue1533 Ай бұрын
Ashikai mention
@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681
@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681 Ай бұрын
lMao
@Fuphu
@Fuphu Ай бұрын
Deshret is a such a gigachad in all aspects of
@hlonghi
@hlonghi Ай бұрын
"Knowing Hoyoverse there are only 2 futures for Capitano: Either he will die or he will be Firefly. And I hate both of them" - Zy0x 🤣🤣🤣
@yelinnphyo
@yelinnphyo Ай бұрын
dying is a better route.. I rather feed his dead body to street dogs than becoming a magical shoujo transformation robot
@ReverseElectro
@ReverseElectro Ай бұрын
We already know Il Capitano is a man tho... Gutherd in Chinese refers to him as a masculine War General.
@Keiki-kun
@Keiki-kun Ай бұрын
"Knowing Hoyoverse" "Zy0x" You can only have one bro, that guy doesn't even play the games
@justincross2212
@justincross2212 Ай бұрын
He's better dead tbh, Firefly was a supreme failure of an example of a character build up imo. Doing Capitano like that would be an absolute disservice to his character.
@hanchengjun275
@hanchengjun275 Ай бұрын
Do you really trust Mr Aboba Loreskipper?
@SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
@SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt Ай бұрын
8:02 The GOAT is already Cooking 🍲🍜
@Keiki-kun
@Keiki-kun Ай бұрын
If GGZ is coming up in the argument you know its going to be bs because of the characters that thing has 😂 One single random character there can 1 click every Herrscher or Aeon in the honkaiverse
@FelixRaycher
@FelixRaycher Ай бұрын
Don't remind me, I'm still pissed off I missed the occasion to play it before EOS of English version. And even more that Mihoyo refuses to release Houraiji Kyuusou's expy version in any of their games. Kafka's design feels the closest but it's mere small part.
@dolphindiverbct8297
@dolphindiverbct8297 Ай бұрын
Not all the characters, although a large number of them can
@Zeke1460
@Zeke1460 Ай бұрын
Capitano IS Anfortas Albrecht. I’m 99% certain. The leader of the swan knights. General of Khaenriah. So Capitano’s knights WERE the swan knights. Or at least they were the most elite force under his command. I say this because in Perinheri, a guy named Albrecht is noted as being the leader of half of Khaenriah’s knights, and one of Khaenriah’s strongest warriors. AKA he was a general. And the only Albrecht known to hold a high military position and be super important to Khaenriah is Anfortas. Bc Clothar (the only other Albrecht ever mentioned by name who lived during the cataclysm) was just a civillian at the time. A noble, but still not a member of the mimitary. Plus, Anfortas was the one who took over as Regent and evacuated Khaenriah after Irmin became “indisposed.” Plus Capitano personally claims responsibility for failing to save Khaenriah. He specifically says “I failed to save Khaenriah.” Not “WE failed to save Khaenriah.” So he must feel some responsibity beyond just being one of the protectors of the nation. He wouldn’t do that if he was just some random no-name commander in the army. Clearly he was someone with great authority. And the only foreshadowed and named person in Khaenriah who he could be is Anfortas, as it makes sense that the guy who steps up to fill the role of regent would feel responsible for the fate of the nation. And the fact that he was one of the strongest warriors in Khaenriah also explains why he is about as strong as Mavuika. (Even stronger in his prime). No regular commander would be that strong. We saw Halfan, who was an elite soldier under Dainsleif, and he wasn’t even close to Capitano or Mavuika’s level. I do wonder why Dainsleif wasn’t included in Perinheri as one of the strongest fighters. But my guess is that the author didn’t have access to all the people in Khaenriah, only to the information that was available to the public. Because none of the sinners OR Dain are listed there. And I would expect Surtalogi for example to be one of the strongest people in all of genshin’s lore, not just in Khaenriah. So it’s most likely this person who wrote the book didn’t know what Dain and the sinners were capable of.
@Astro-po3ck
@Astro-po3ck Ай бұрын
honestly one of the best theories i've read about so far, alot of ppl have been coming on saying that capitano himself is perinheri but it never sense to me so Capitano possibly being Anfortas always had a higher probability. It makes me wonder if his ranking in the fatui had something to do with Pierro's influence besides the fact that he's the strongest? Given Pierro was a mage in the court of Khaenri'ah, it's possible he probably knew Capitano/Anfortas before the creation of the Fatui Harbingers if Capitano/Anfortas was as powerful as this theory claims.
@danieldodson6789
@danieldodson6789 Ай бұрын
@Astro-po3ck That's a really interesting idea. It really makes you wonder just how much the Tsaritsa was influenced by the Khanriahn survivors. We know the event changed her a lot from Venit, but now im wondering if she founded the Fatui, or if Pierro and Capitano were the initiators. I'm already getting hyped for Snezniya just thinking about it.
@Astro-po3ck
@Astro-po3ck Ай бұрын
@@danieldodson6789 exactly, i love natlan, but snezhnaya has my heart, it'd make sense since Kheanri'ah is right after the snezhnaya arc, im guessing we'll see alot more of Pierro, Capitano, Dain, etc when we transition from snezhnaya to Kheanri'ah.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 Ай бұрын
Wrong, we know that Anfortas fled to Sumeru with the Schwanenritter during the Cataclysm. So unless the Captain can multiply himself like a cell I doubt he could have been present in two places simultaneously 😂 Their stories just don't match, its obvious they are two separate characters who lived through different events during the Cataclysm
@grandepica
@grandepica Ай бұрын
​@@tamas9554lmao it was never stated that Capitano went to Natlan immediately after leaving Khaenri'ah, in fact he says he fled to Natlan AFTER the situation was unsalvageable, plus Khaenri'ah is right below Sumeru, so he'd have to go through Sumeru to go through Natlan regardless
@genshin_lore_enjoyer
@genshin_lore_enjoyer Ай бұрын
1:39 yess, mavuika as lore unit of measure let's go
@VANXEUS
@VANXEUS Ай бұрын
it would be amazing if genshin went down the path of introducing multiple lovecraftian outer gods by breaking a rift in the fake sky to reveal the real sky with their enormous tentacles/eyeballs sticking out of it (like antispiral in gurren lagann) my life will be yours hoyoverse
@silentwolf8493
@silentwolf8493 Ай бұрын
It'd rhyme quite well with the Angel's Egg moon, too
@_EllaLost
@_EllaLost 13 күн бұрын
It really wouldnt be too out of the convo. We already have *Dust of Azoth* after all
@Gaeshiete
@Gaeshiete Ай бұрын
Saw Yog Sonoth in the thumbnail and immediatley clicked (GGZ lore when fr)
@ArchibaldVonSkip
@ArchibaldVonSkip Ай бұрын
'Yog-Sothoth is the embodiment of all of time and space across an essentially infinite number of space-time continuums.' Istaroth VS Gosoythoth Kaiju fight, when?
@ArchibaldVonSkip
@ArchibaldVonSkip Ай бұрын
Lurker at the Threshold Key and the Gate The Beyond One Opener of the Way The All-in-One The One-in-All All-Encompassing Master of Gates between Worlds Just waiting for the eggshell to crack to lick all that delicious -waifu- elemental juice, ain't we?
@ArchibaldVonSkip
@ArchibaldVonSkip Ай бұрын
A quote explaining the neutrality of the entity: *Beyond the Gates of the Silver Key* _In this story, Charles Randolph Carter actually meets him, The Gate, the Key, and the Guardian. The encounter makes it very clear that it is the point of view which defines the nature of the interaction; there is nothing inherently evil or frightening about him. He opens the gates of the Multiverse to anyone who is willing to glimpse it and unlike the "nameless devourers" he is not going to harm you or force you into what you do not want. He gives Carter the option of leaving or going forward; The price is to see the true or at least partial vastness of what is, a flood of knowledge that overwhelms the current "self"._
@ren9619
@ren9619 Ай бұрын
7:43 Blue Box mentioned WOOOOHOOO
@DedeTheHut
@DedeTheHut Ай бұрын
Funny show ngl
@kazuhabruhkaedahara4329
@kazuhabruhkaedahara4329 Ай бұрын
"I almost wonder if he went there to bid them farewell before going to war" Thanks for Capitano's angst this will be eating my brain for years now. Hopefully I have enough willpower to write a fanfic about this. By the way, splendid video bro always nuking lore left and right with deadly accuracy.
@wansper9297
@wansper9297 Ай бұрын
Crazy we get a GGZ reference in a my name for now video before a honkai impact 3rd one
@Travek2112
@Travek2112 Ай бұрын
Interesting ideas with Capitano and Ronova, but I took the "sent you on your long journey" to refer to the curse of immortality on the people of khaenri'ah.
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
This could be the case, but one would wonder if Ronova did that on her own. For example, why is she specifically associated with Capitano? Did each Shade Curse a different group of Khaenri'ahns? These types of questions are why I don't think the Shades necessarily did this on their own. The main Curse should be from the King (Crown of Logos). Alternatively, to support what you are saying, it is possible that Ronova Cursed Capitano specifically in a similar way to how Focalors Cursed Furina... But again... Why does Capitano's flesh decay while Furina looks perfectly fine?
@Travek2112
@Travek2112 Ай бұрын
@DragonMJE It's mentioned that ronova overstepped her bounds. Do you think this could be in relation to the curse or that it's the lending of the power of death to the pyro archon.
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
@@Travek2112 According to Yohualtecuhtin, the Heavenly Principles was displeased with how much Ronova helped Xbalanque.
@darkpaperiniks
@darkpaperiniks Ай бұрын
I have a theory, what if the Crimson Moon Is a finality, like kiana in honkai impact? What if in genshin there Is a finality who is embracing Humanity and keeping It obscure of the honkai out of the false sky? 🤔
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
To be honest this is a really good idea. There are several sources hinting that the Firmament is supposed to protect Teyvat from some outside entities.
@fazadhikarizqkoswara9429
@fazadhikarizqkoswara9429 Ай бұрын
Interesting choice of word to make it clear that Zhongli is using "Gold" after establishing that's been clarified as Khanriah alchemy/Khemia, to save Xiao from the "leftover souls" that are either the abyss or place where sacrificed souls that may or may not used to sustain Teyvat afloat and running. This is all over the place, but this theory, and one of Ashikai's that associate Teyvat is like a world of dream akin to memoria substance based from Hsr lore... okay, I need to lay down, my mind is not ready to unpack than and our abyss sibling already went through this sh*t against Celestia.
@ferend4038
@ferend4038 Ай бұрын
22:21 NOOOOOoooo I wanted to listen ggz lore
@coreypacillo8204
@coreypacillo8204 Ай бұрын
"Big Dong Zhong" made me laugh🤣😅
@Indian_gae_boii
@Indian_gae_boii Ай бұрын
i think you can also find a small fragment of the broken moon in natlan as well near the map border by the children of echos, and if you do the small wq related to it, you get a book which tells the story of an angel/ envoy? who gets lost in earth and decides to live amongst humans with her lover
@supermonstars
@supermonstars Ай бұрын
Why is NOBODY talking about Guthred? How did a Khaenri'an ghost appear in Natlan with the way Natlan's leylines are and the Night Kingdom being kinda...xenophobic? To me, it's extremely obvious that Capitano is chock full of ghosts of his fallen comrades. Both Mavuika and Ororon comment on the unusual presences within him, and when he says "you heard something from here, didn't you?" he looks to his wound. It seems like he's leaking souls and one of them slipped out to possess a body in order to serve him again. If your theory about him being a General is true, he could be carrying the entire Khaenri'an army within him. Definitely something that could come into play once he faces his "final foe", whoever they are, considering his diminished personal strength.
@caparashon
@caparashon Ай бұрын
When you mention that, I'm reminded of Hohenheim in Fullmetal Alchemist. Which might be also because My Name used footage of FMA:B in the video so it's in the back of my mind. But the interesting thing about Hohenheim, besides him being an immortal too, is that he BECAME a living Philosopher's Stone. That's the reason why he contains hundreds of thousands of human souls, it's because his whole civilization was sacrificed to use as the raw material. I doubt it's an exact situation but it could be that Capitano is a walking ley line/night kingdom for the Khaenri'ahn troops in Natlan (except the two sealed in the Children of Echoes world quest)
@akinohikari1000
@akinohikari1000 Ай бұрын
go watch dawit's videos about capitano, he definitely talks about the souls. though i don't remember which one it was
@supermonstars
@supermonstars Ай бұрын
@@akinohikari1000 He does talk about it in the latest video but that one came out after I made my comment.
@DedeTheHut
@DedeTheHut Ай бұрын
@@supermonstars I think lil bro saw your comment and speedran that video 😂
@Ryuukha
@Ryuukha 27 күн бұрын
Didn’t they mention in the Archon Quest that after khaenria fell, capitano came to natlan to help fend off the abyss with what was left of his troops?
@AlyAly-R
@AlyAly-R Ай бұрын
If the construction of rubedo consumes souls then maybe that's what visions were originally meant for? Instead of feeding in a multitude of normal souls they're powering a philosophers stone with the souls of vision holders that have been artificially improved. Allogenes can ascend but they're not allowed to so that they get an almost godlike soul as fodder instead of a normal human soul.
@trianwarshield
@trianwarshield Ай бұрын
Natlan has been pretty damn awesome so far but one thing that annoyed me is that the traveler had capitano a person of rank from Khaenri'ahn right in front of them and didn't ask him a single damn question about their sibling or what happened there.
@generaltoszur1036
@generaltoszur1036 Ай бұрын
I wouldnt neceserally say that capitano being send on his long journey by ronova should mean that he was hired by her to do something , what if it just refers to curse of immortality and final foe capitano was talking about could possibly be shade of death and him wanting to fight her because of the curse she put on his people
@marinarose3343
@marinarose3343 Ай бұрын
I definitely think the "final foe" is literally death itself. Or rather, finally overcoming the curse of life.
@nabieladrian
@nabieladrian Ай бұрын
Always love it when the craziest crackpot theory turns out to be the closest if not accurate prediction 😂
@nicolas._.2294
@nicolas._.2294 Ай бұрын
Omg, the current ashikai video, alongside with the past one, this video and like the 3rd after this, mix up so well, i feel my brain is just too overwhelmed, but it makes so much sense when you combine these!!!!!!🤯
@VoidburnedCrow
@VoidburnedCrow 3 күн бұрын
I'M LATE TO COMMENTING BUT HOLY SHIT LOVECRAFT'S MYTHOS IS SO MY WHEELHOUSE, IT HAS BEEN MY HYPERFIXATION FOREVER. SO IF THEY'RE BRINGING YOG-SOTHOTH THAT ISN'T GGZ RELATED THAT HAS MASSIVE IMPLICATIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COPE WITH. I need to calm down and process this... oml
@nxkx4079
@nxkx4079 Ай бұрын
A story teller needs a main villain - the words OUTER GOD coming to save them
@rue1533
@rue1533 Ай бұрын
"Cursed treelike creature"......so like you know....mara struck????
@ziebus904
@ziebus904 Ай бұрын
14:56 WHAT IF he is The Albricht from perinheri "the commander of half the knights" or Alf "the greatest knight of universatis" both could explain his pure blood and his might and also status
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
While I have been a strong advocate of the Book Perinheri since its release in version 4.5, the book is a fictional story according to Pierro (very credible source) so I would take its specific details with a grain of salt. What matters are the overall themes and message. The characters mentioned in it could be real, but I would imagine they go by different names. Capitano could have been someone who fulfilled a "role" mentioned in Perinheri tho.
@AndrewsMobs
@AndrewsMobs Ай бұрын
@@DragonMJE Where did Pierro say that?
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
@@AndrewsMobs Arlecchino's character story. I forgot if it was 3, 4, or 5. Check them and you will see her conversation with him.
@Quon
@Quon Ай бұрын
honestly dainsleif's arm reminds me of vishaps so much
@DinaUAE
@DinaUAE 16 күн бұрын
Does really genshin include all these strange names!! First time I hear them, LOL 😂
@Adrianirl
@Adrianirl Ай бұрын
I was gritting my teeth waiting for you to drop this video after 5.1 AQ, it did NOT disappoint!! 🔥My Goat as per Usual
@desrtsku
@desrtsku Ай бұрын
I really like the idea of Khaenri'ahns being related to the seelies. It gives a new meaning to all the imagery and philosophy that they share with Deshret's civilization, or to be more accurate Deshret's ambitions themselves (which I believe unironically all stem from his unhealthy obsession with that one Seelie).
@ZetaMoolah
@ZetaMoolah Ай бұрын
So we are at war with an Eldritch Loli Goddess🗿
@ZayneWanders
@ZayneWanders Ай бұрын
My Chef for Now bc you be cooking!!
@fundamental7366
@fundamental7366 Ай бұрын
If we get an Abyss waifu i might just gave to invest all 550 wishes to try getting her to C6
@Xolents
@Xolents Ай бұрын
I was so excited when they confirm the seele and the name of the shade of death
@KFCG427
@KFCG427 Күн бұрын
Dam brother....hear after the leak I can't wait for what ur gonna cook now
@dan2800
@dan2800 Ай бұрын
the broken moon beyond the fake sky reminded me of the HSR x fate collab picture
@res6148
@res6148 Ай бұрын
I think capitano might be the leader of the swan knights.
@KrackenSyndrome
@KrackenSyndrome Ай бұрын
Very nice break down. I believe i found the thread that connects paimon to the moon, and which one she is. Working on it now, actually. But yes, thx for sharing your thoughts and research👌
@persofte
@persofte Ай бұрын
touching on that last revelation, its reminding me of other times red and gold have shown up in the plot... obviously the traveler, when they arrived in teyvat, had gold energy and wings, theres the alchemist rhinedottir who is nicknamed gold (whose creatures like elynas and durin notably seem to have hearts and blood of crimson red that twist and corrupt things around them, which if red is associated with rubedo and the absolute celestial power, i wonder if that might be why they do that? maybe they are rubedo, but improperly made? maybe rhinedottir's goal is to artificially recreate rubedo (and thus secure power equal to or above a descender), and has failed again and again, so she turned instead to chalk and gold?) i think there might be some kind of connection between gold being power, but false power in a way - something strong but still below the peak of rubedo i wonder if that might be associated with paimon in a way? her clothing contains accents of rose gold - something that could technically be said to be between gold and red
@damen9578
@damen9578 Ай бұрын
Ah! I have like surface level knowledge of genshin, but with every major update. I become more and more interested in the lore of this world. I need to do some research.
@Bina69
@Bina69 Ай бұрын
for some reason I read the caption on the thumbnail as " Biggest waifus " like a top 10 list 😂
@opswhyyou7216
@opswhyyou7216 Ай бұрын
I think Lord of night has another (kinda) hidden lore revelation, and that is the Shade of Void might be male. Since in original Chinese text when she's talking about the four shades, the pronoun "they" she used is 3rd person plural masculine, instead of 3rd person plural feminine, which indicates there's at least one male among the Shades. We know both Istaroth and Renova are female, and I think it's mentioned somewhere that Shade of Life is also female, so the Shade of Void must be male. This also hints at the Sustainer not being one of the four shades, she's probably THE heavenly principle. Or all of these could just be a typo...but I don't think it's likely, because the word "they" got repeated several times in Lord of night's conversation, and it stays consistent. If you use Lumine as your traveler, the "they" used in that part of the story when referring to you and paimon is in its correct 3rd person plural feminine form.
@The_original_one
@The_original_one Ай бұрын
SUSTAINER herself said that she is a SUSTAINER of THE heavenly principal and we know now that heavenly principal is just one parson.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 Ай бұрын
In the english translations every female god is also just called a "god" instead of a "goddess". The only exception to this is Nabu Malikata, who was an Angel. So this might not have any relevant meaning
@opswhyyou7216
@opswhyyou7216 Ай бұрын
@@tamas9554 That is completely different. God is a title, "they" is a pronoun. Some titles can be gender neutral (such as "Lord" of night), but will you refer to Lord of night as "he"? There is a relatively obscure gender neutral 3rd person plural form of "they" reserved for sacred figures in Chinese but they didn't use it. You can't use a translation to tell me the original text doesn't mean anything. This is probably something that's lost in translation
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 Ай бұрын
@@opswhyyou7216 The same logic still applies to the original langauge too though, I just don't believe its enough to draw that conclusion. We also don't know if the Shade of Void is the Sustainer as of yet, who is female
@opswhyyou7216
@opswhyyou7216 Ай бұрын
@@tamas9554 no, it is enough. I know English doesn't have different 3rd person plural pronouns, but maybe using French, which is related to English, as an example it will be easier to understand? This is as if Lord of night said "ils sont des ombres" instead of "elles sont des ombres". A French speaking person will immediately know what is different here and what that difference symbolizes. This isn't just a case of "oh some words can be used in a gender neutral way" because these words absolutely can't be gender neutral. There's a separate gender neutral form of them but hoyo didn't use it. The only way for this to not mean anything is that it's a typo. If it is intentional then it absolutely means at least one Shade is male.
@cloudkira15
@cloudkira15 Ай бұрын
So pure blooded khaenri'ahns are the products of an angel and human love huh. Their own version of adam and eve i guess.
@danieldodson6789
@danieldodson6789 Ай бұрын
You know, I wonder if the fragments in the sky weren't of a destroyed moon, but of the primordial one's "eggshell," after all I think I remember it being said somewhere that the firmament was made from Phanes's egg.
@lpcurio
@lpcurio Ай бұрын
Theres a world quest where you can see a chunk of the moon up close
@leifareed
@leifareed Ай бұрын
About the trees, Genshin is connected to the Honkai universe (that has the GGZ, HI3 and HSR games revolving around it), and it’s a sort of multiverse where all their major games (aside for ZZZ and ToT take place, those two are standalones for what we know as of now) and the Irminsul or the trees in the Void Realm might just be branches of the Imaginary Tree, which is essentially a multiverse Layline, sort of, an enormous tree that it’s located in the Sea of Quanta (which I suspect might be part of the Abyss, as both have energy which corrupts and are places where normal physics laws have no meaning, but this theory is just that, a theory. Anyway by “rewriting” the imaginary tree, one can actually create alternative timelines, rewrite history in a way, it has been done in HI3 already. It might be worth to be looked into!
@GhostEmblem
@GhostEmblem Ай бұрын
The source mechanism was explicitly stated to have been created by the angels not the dragons. Which would explainn why it looks like Deshrets device since he got knowledge frooom the Seelies.
@SilverLawrenceGamingg
@SilverLawrenceGamingg 20 күн бұрын
23:18 love that movie, sad what disney become. Cant wait for more lore
@WhiteGold-tg1qj
@WhiteGold-tg1qj 27 күн бұрын
Phlogiston and Light is a cool mechanic
@okkasannan
@okkasannan Ай бұрын
i mean seelies (angels) were natives of underground Night Kingdom, and Khaenriah was an underground kingdom too, so all of their similarities can be explained with convergent evolution
@opalakv4ob
@opalakv4ob Ай бұрын
7:36 really, my guy? Just look at Zhongli's coat from the back LOL WHY NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS. The 'inscriptions down the middle' are EVEN MORE similar in his coat than in the desert mechanisms. But ofc, this doesn't fit the rest of the theory. Still, I think it's sus.
@raymoonlight3396
@raymoonlight3396 Ай бұрын
That was my first thought while doing this quest too!!!!! I was like, "zhongli keeps getting more and more suspicious" when I saw the source mechanism
@cadence_la
@cadence_la 20 күн бұрын
I had this exact thought bc I remember in the previous AQ patch where we first go through the ancient ruins of the dragons, the symbol on the big door that lights up closely resembled the geo symbol. It’s like it was the mirror of the geo symbol. And then now with the source mechanism and the knot design on Zhongli’s coat…v sus 👀 he gotta be part of that ancient civilization somehow…
@carlcardenio3583
@carlcardenio3583 Ай бұрын
Also I think the the girl who Controlls the white abyss might be lumine in this context since the first time we meet lumine she already can use both abyssal energy and omni element..
@antisocialavarice
@antisocialavarice Ай бұрын
i can smell someone cooking.
@Sheerwinter
@Sheerwinter Ай бұрын
Sucrose is a freaking dragon don't believe Me? U ll regret...
@tylosenpai6920
@tylosenpai6920 Ай бұрын
"And by comedic i mean in the sense of it being OBJECTIVELY dogshit writing" ...LOL, that one makes sense of why she will be reworked...like, GI team won't allow a bad writing to persist once they identify it (Except when it's too "Big" like the entire Inazuma AQ) Anyways, let's just see if this...what's the word again..."Cnnuy" ? Ends up being brought back
@aapee565
@aapee565 Ай бұрын
27:11 TOGETHAAAAAA
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
Join the Serpent King as FAMILYYYYYYY
@abombernation3254
@abombernation3254 Ай бұрын
Watching blue box is so based
@hermdude
@hermdude Ай бұрын
12:30 Are you saying that the origins of the Aeon of Preservation is linked to Genshin and Teyvat? This particular tidbit of information makes even more sense if you link it with the nature of Teyvat’s firmament, that is the Angel’s Egg.
@Hainoczek
@Hainoczek Ай бұрын
Really none of the lore content creators did not notice that we physically have part of this moon beyond firmament in Natlan? (In the crater top, right from the Ancestral Temple)
@marcusbullock2753
@marcusbullock2753 Ай бұрын
It would be impossible since the traveler can’t be corrupted or whatever but how sick would it be if we are the first weekly boss in Natlan archon quest and we have to play as Mauvika and we do the trope where she Dies like all Himeko in every game and it plays her sad theme again. But Capitano comes out of nowhere and uses whatever deal he made with Ronova and saves them both some how and he is sacrificed or something.
@AstraLuna-o9i
@AstraLuna-o9i 29 күн бұрын
I want to watch this so bad but haven’t finished the archon quest yet 😭😭
@AstraLuna-o9i
@AstraLuna-o9i 2 күн бұрын
Finally did it and I’m here
@munchielitten5961
@munchielitten5961 Ай бұрын
Didnt we see a pice of that in a ditch a kid was looking into
@7snow7longtimenosee
@7snow7longtimenosee Ай бұрын
Imagine paimon being a moon sister
@tomaskaizr3720
@tomaskaizr3720 Ай бұрын
This is a kind of well known and spread theory. You may found videos about that. Her crown is clock with arms. I would be surprise if she is moon sister in her reduce form and with amnesia. Every part of her is on stargliter menu. Maybe even wishing and stopping time. At least we known about her orgins and inspiration. Just write in on google and go on Salomon grimoars. It fits on her perfectly. My theory is that she is exactly the welkin moon sister on banner. Archons are inspirated by grimoar demon commanders. Paimon too.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 29 күн бұрын
Paimon is definitely connected to Celestia, but its unlikely she is an actual Moon Sister. Nothing about her resembles the moon, you see. Actually, if we look at all the symbols through Genshin, including the game's logo itself, it is far more likely that Paimon is the Primordial One/First Descender/Heavenly Principles as a "baby". Or else the crown and Celestia's motifs on the Divine Nails and Archon Statues wouldn't make a lot of sense
@7snow7longtimenosee
@7snow7longtimenosee 29 күн бұрын
@@tamas9554 thanks for the reply but I really don't think she is one. I just had the thought you know? Idk But as time goes on she becomes more sus and she could be anything Next thing they're gonna tell us is that every disender Hase there own paimon like companion IDK or that she was born from the will greater then the gods I'm just throwing ideas lol
@helenewild9233
@helenewild9233 Ай бұрын
if I had a dollar for every time a video game made yog-sothoth a little girl, I would have 2 (GGZ & FGO), which isn't much, but it's still funny it happened twice! Any other sponsors?
@JZJora
@JZJora Ай бұрын
The question I have that no one else seems to be asking is... What did Capitano mean by "already??!?!?!?!?" "You met Dainslief already?" ALREADY???!?!?!?! What are they planning????
@motemo8413
@motemo8413 Ай бұрын
great video! now this is not an important question but just fun musings what do u think are the chances that Ronova is Seele expy? let me provide my thought process: i think all the shades are expies of Herrschers and The Primordial One is Kevin Kaslana expy(K.K) and if Sustainer is really the Shade of Space/Void, then not only is she expy of Herrscher of the void but Lord of the night calls Ronova "Ruler of death" - Ruler is "Herrscher" in German so she is basically calling Ronova Herrscher of Death. not only would this imply that Sustainer(Asmoday) is Herrscher of Space/Void basically but that Ronova is "Herrscher of death' btw obviously i don't mean Herrscher as in literally Honkai Herrscher but that title equivalent in Genshin. so if Ronova can be considered as Ruler/Herrscher of death and she also has powers of death and resurrection(most likely rebirth too) wouldn't that parallel Seele then, who is Herrscher of Death equivalent as Herrscher of Rebirth? even if Seele isn't a standard Herrscher per say originating from Imaginary Tree but instead Sea of Quanta. it's also interesting to note that Balemoon Bloodfire has connection to death and rebirth through Hearth ritual and it's very likely that those powers are related to Ronova in some way, either directly or indirectly. considering popular interpretation for "two worlds" in "Cinder of two worlds flames" title Peruere has and burning in the "hearthfire of two worlds" are referencing life and "afterlife" again this is just fun musings and not really super important to the Genshin story
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
I will be honest with you, I have always imagined her as a Seele Expy ever since the Tsurumi days back in Inazuma. Unlike you tho, I never had any logical reason, I just did lol. That being said, Paimon might be a weird combination of Kiana and Seele.
@motemo8413
@motemo8413 Ай бұрын
@@DragonMJE that's interesting, man the day Paimon's true role and identity will be revealed will be legendary. whenever that may be. i do hope that we will see Ronova's appearance in final Archon quest(same for Xbalanque, my cope is that they didn't reveal his design just yet cuz he will revive and become playable) but i am prepared to be disappointed. hoping for the best but being prepared for the worst as they say
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
@@motemo8413 Regarding what you said about the Hearth Fire being connected to Ronova, that was implied back in 2021 on Tsurumi Island. Kanna Kapatcir and the lady who gave her her original name originate from Ainu Mythology. There it is stated that Kanna Kamuy (God of Thunder & Lighting) descended from the heavens with Apemerukoyan-mat Unamerukoyan-mat (Fuchi). In Ainu traditions, Fuchi was the Goddess of the Hearth and with it she held dominion over Death (the Ainu saw the Hearth as the abode of the dead). Fuchi is supposed to be Ronova 🙂
@DrakeWurrum
@DrakeWurrum Ай бұрын
Honestly, just googling her image, Seele seems to share STRONG resemblance to what we've seen of Columbina to my eyes (I could be VERY wrong, it was just the immediate association my brain made) and uh... just quick-googling some of her lore, it's said "She is the best friend of Bronya Zaychik" Aaaand I'm pretty sure Cryo Archon will be Bronya's expy.
@motemo8413
@motemo8413 Ай бұрын
@@DragonMJE Thanks for sharing! i think you mentioned Kapatcir's connection to Shade of death back then but i didn't remember that Fuchi was goddess of the Hearth cuz i have golffish memory also it's great that both mysterious Tsurumi island and Enkanomiya lore are coming back in Natlan, in the main story no less, this makes me think that despite Hoyo forgetting to give Inazuma any meaningful content for 2 years now, they still haven't forggoten lore from back then kek
@ziebus904
@ziebus904 Ай бұрын
He came....AND SO AM I🗿
@Kawhydesu
@Kawhydesu 22 күн бұрын
Keys
@3u760
@3u760 Ай бұрын
Oh... I want to talk about alchemy so bad, so very bad after everything. Especially about gold/sulfur/phlogiston and rainbows and colors, And, I might say that 'red' (or even 'gold') isn't that special (a bold claim from me and could be very wrong) but that's because whatever Paimon and Sluasi said back there and Melusine saw colors differently than human beings (and colorblindness and stuff), I think what's important is actually about the transformation/transcension itself. And it's about skill too. Because I Think, Deshret and Irmin (or Phanes, or dragons, or Men), are not as smart as the women handling the alchemy 😶, probably, that much I would say for now.
@3u760
@3u760 Ай бұрын
gendered because syzygy of course 👍
@Frou-hsr
@Frou-hsr Ай бұрын
My Name for Now, did any reveals in this patch actually come as a surprise to you?
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting Yog-Sothoth
@davidlago6879
@davidlago6879 Ай бұрын
Idk if it was this video, but you mention in one how Mika’s account is wrong because of blue eyes. I’ve been seeing around on social media (and idk how right it is) that the blue stuff on Dain is the rot that has consumed all of Capitano, so could that be what he thought were blue eyes? Great videos btw, I watch every Genshin release!
@vamprock5118
@vamprock5118 Ай бұрын
Erm amazing theory!! but may I add that it’s Firmament with an M and not ‘Fernament’ ☝️🤓
@TheOVJM
@TheOVJM Ай бұрын
The lore of the AQs so far has been interesting but the writing of those quests have been really subpar.
@MojtaAS
@MojtaAS Ай бұрын
the waifu had to be a cute loli time to save up pulls once again the list is growing larger by the day
@ginsengaddict
@ginsengaddict Ай бұрын
For the record, that Khaenri'ahn soldier's name is pronounced "Goo Tread".
@lisi9017
@lisi9017 Ай бұрын
let the man cook
@capellaXcom
@capellaXcom Ай бұрын
yep the moon resembles in HSR. wait did all moon looks identical?
@felipedelima2289
@felipedelima2289 Ай бұрын
I just wanted some confirmation that xbalanque Will come to the game… so sadge
@killb5030
@killb5030 Ай бұрын
didn't the lord of the night say something about citlali being young when we can ask her questions? like she said "that young girl from the masters of the night wind" and then paimon said "young girl?!" and then she says "what? did I say something wrong?"
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
I had to explain this a few times at this point, but Yohualtecuhtin is speaking relatively. Citlali is approximately 230 - 260 years old, which is extremely old for any human. However, from the perspective of an Angel who has been alive for thousands upon thousands of years, 200 is nothing. Take Kusanali for example, at 500 years, she is insanely old for humans. But to someone like Zhongli, she is a baby.
@killb5030
@killb5030 Ай бұрын
@@DragonMJE i dunno that honestly just seems like a guess. How do we know citlali hasnt been lying about her age?
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
@@killb5030 We know about her age from external sources + she was old enough to be consulted by the Masters of the Night Wind's Cheif about whether or not to send Ororon to the Night Realm when he was found as a child.
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 Ай бұрын
@@killb5030when she drunk Citlali did mention about “doesn’t matter someone live 200 year old or 1000 year old” That is a hint about her age And from 200 to 1000 still is young to someone like the night lord
@tylosenpai6920
@tylosenpai6920 Ай бұрын
In Gurren Lagann, Guame once decribed Cytomander as "200 years young"...this Guame is possibly 1000 years old He made the age gap as specific as he needs it to be...
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy Ай бұрын
And we dont even have an Act 5 yet
@Zeke1460
@Zeke1460 Ай бұрын
About the broken moon and its fragments. It could be the Dire Balemoon. The one powering up Arlecchino. We have long been told that the 3 moon sisters killed each other, and that the corpse of one of them still hangs in the sky. This hasn’t been visible until now. But if that is indeed the corpse of one of the 3 moon sisters, then could it also be the presence that the crimson moon dynasty worshipped? We know that the consciousness of a god can linger even after they die. The remains of Rukkhadevatta’s consciousness remained intact in Irminsul for 500 years. And Egeria’s consciousness is still very literally alive inside the lotus at the core of the Harvisptokhum. I think it’s possible that the consciousness of that moon sister might still linger in the corpse even after death. And if it still remembers how it died, supposedly murdered by her sisters, then that also explains the look of absolute horror in the Balemoon entity’s eye. It would forever be a murder victim recalling its horrific death, endlessly feeling only fear, sadness, and anger. Also, the moon sisters are even older than Zhongli. And the fact that at least one of them is a celestial body that exists outside the planet of Teyvat implies that it existed before humanity did, and before the primordial one arrived in Teyvat. It might even predate Nibelung’s rule as king of the dragons. Since it’s an entirely different celestial body. That kind of primordial deity would probably be way stronger than the earthly gods that fought in the archon war. So it also makes sense that the remnants of such a deity would still be able to empower humans and other beings in Teyvat with powers that rival those of lesser gods. It might have even done so wildly, lashing out and empowering hilichurls and other monsters during the cataclysm with incredible power. Also, if it IS a residual consciousness just acting on the emotions left inside it, then it also explains why it was there during the fall of Khaenriah. If they activated the power of the Shades, or the abyssal power unleashed was what caused the moon sisters to kill each other, then the wild emotions inside the balemoon entiry would probably lash out at what it perceives as someone responsible for its death. I for one don’t think it’s a giant philosopher’s stone. I don’t think it was “created” by the primordial one or even by Nibelung. I think it’s an entity that has existed about as long as Teyvat the planet has. And, I think it’s possible that both the moon sisters and Nibelung function as “consciousnesses” for the celestial bodies they represent. Nibelung the dragon king is essentially the “brain” of Teyvat. The control center for all of the light realm’s energy. After all, he’s the “heavenly father” and creator of all things, according to Neuvillette. Same with the moon sisters, but for the energy of their respective moons. And instead of the continent of Teyvat, they created the Lunar Palace on the moon. It seems very similar to “Archetype Earth” from the Fate and Type Moon series. Who is essentially the earth’s “brain” and can controll the flow of all the leylines. I think that’s Nibelung for Teyvat, and the moon sisters for the moon(s).
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 Ай бұрын
Archerype earth is not the earth’s brain but is earth’s hand and feet, she is the body guard to physically solve problem of the earth She can do everything earth can do if earth give her the permission to access to using earth power and the connection between earth and akasha
@barti560
@barti560 29 күн бұрын
Stellarons~
@davidjohnson8273
@davidjohnson8273 Ай бұрын
1:55 Wayob's aren't Seelies. If they were Seelies then the first Wayob would have been "created" (more like starting a new job than being created) at the beginning of the Night Kingdom towards the end or just after the end of the Apocalypse war / war of Vengenace / war against the 2nd throne. Instead we are told that the first Wayob is not formed until Chaac and his heroes died. This suggest that the Wayob are some sort of result of the dead souls of Natlan people being gathered together after they dissipate. They're made of dead natlan people's memories and souls somehow? But for sure not Seelies. As for the primordial Khaenri'ahns there are better arguments to support the position that they were the descendants of a mix of humans and Seelies from ancient times. Just the fact that their royal blood is such a big deal shows there was something messed up about their ancestor's biology so it's just a question of what weird thing they interbred with and Seelies are creatures we get myths about interbreeding with humans, and now that they've been called Angels we can note that biblically angels did interbreed with humans and the descendants were very strong "heroes" which god was angry about. Not exactly a million miles from the Genshin story.
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE Ай бұрын
Like the Wayob, Sybilla also became a Collective Consciousness for Remuria which was known as Phobos (A Moon). Based on that, we can infer that Angels can become Anchors to Collective Consciousnesses such as the Wayob. Therefore, each Wayob's Mastermind would be an Angel and they are all working for Yohualtecuhtin. I should have included this in the video because without it my statement is confusing. It's also worth noting that the passage in in Genesis 6:1-4 "the sons of God saw that the women were beautiful, and they married whoever they chose" isn't interpreted literally. The context of the passage is about the decline of humanity and the prevalence of sin. The "sons of God" marrying the "daughters of men" is seen as a symbol of this spiritual and moral decline. I would have a very hard time finding a Church (outside of some niche denominations in North America) who accept the idea of Angels having sex with Humans.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 29 күн бұрын
@@DragonMJE She didn't just "become" Phobos, she sacrificed herself and Remus also used his own power to create it. However Natlan's case points towards heroes like Chaac being the conduit, since the birth of the first Wayob is directly connected to him. Looking at the Phobos example this comparison makes little sense, because then the Wayobs should have been created before Chaac, if they are truly Seelies. "On the last night of his life, he climbed a high mountain to ignite the first flame. He called out, hoping to reunite with his former companions. And the god of the night realm responded. That night, people throughout the land seemed to hear voices from another world, like a mother's clear song, like the low whispers of old friends - the birth-cry of the first Wayob of the Night Kingdom." This doesn't prove that Wayobs are Seelies, we don't even have it confirmed if Sybilla was an actual Seelie or not
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE 29 күн бұрын
@@tamas9554 The Angels don't use Chaac and his men as Souls for the Wayob because Human Souls do not remain in the Night Kingdom. The Angels simply preserve their memories. Furthermore, your presumption that the Wayob must have existed before Chaac due to them being Angels is extremely flawed. The entire point of the Wayob is that they are the Great Spirits of each Tribe. Ronova and Yohualtecuhtin created the Night Kingdom and it was through this act that the Angels anchored the memories of the Natlanese Tribesmen into the Land of the Dead as Wayobs. Each Great Spirit, or Anchor, would necessarily then have to be a Seelie who preserves the memories of these heroes. Finally, you make an incorrect assumption regarding Sybilla not being a Seelie. That is quite literally impossible, however, this gets into a topic which I will cover in a future video so I won't spoil it in a reply to a comment.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 29 күн бұрын
@@DragonMJE The souls become one with the Wayob, this is stated in the Hydro Wayob Manifestation's description. "A "Wayob" is a consciousness of collective thought, and the home of the ancestors' souls." If the Wayob are indeed Seelies, there is no reason for why they didn't come into existence when the Night Kingdom itself was created, which was stated by Yohualtechutin to be aided by both Ronova and the other Seelie. They could have existed long before Chaac was even born, since humans lived in Natlan prior to that. Your explanation doesn't answer this question. We also know that creating a collective consciousness is possible without Seelies, as Siraj and King Deshret both achieved it. Its also entirely possible that Sybilla isn't a Seelie, despite the many hints which obviously reinforce it
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE 29 күн бұрын
​@@tamas9554 The Souls of the Natlanese do not remain with the Wayob. Mavuika already debunked this when she told the Traveler that Souls from the Night Kingdom reincarnate. I am surprised you are arguing this considering we already knew reincarnation is a thing in Teyvat all the way back from Cassiodor. If each Wayob were to constantly redeposit and absorb Souls all the time then the Wayob would ultimately be a constantly changing entity, never ever retaining a specific purpose. The only way to counteract this is by having something major and consistent which is retained all the time. You are arguing a losing battle since you are too focused on semantics. Ultimately, it is not possible for the Wayob to not be Seelies precisely because they didn't exist until a certain period when the Night Kingdom began receiving Human Souls. They can't continue to exist unless there is something which these Souls collectivize around. That thing must also be capable of retaining the memories of those souls once they are no longer part of the Night Kingdom, which it does based on what Mavuika says in "As One We Watch the Setting Sun". If you actually want to reach somewhere with your theory, you need to argue with me on something along the lines of "Yohualtecuhtin is Anchoring the Souls of the Natlanese to each Tribe's Great Spirit without the help of the Seelies". You can't simply say "Wayob aren't Seelies" without providing an alternative to what the Six Great Spirits are supposed to be. Finally, it is physically impossible for Sybilla not to be an Angel. I did say that I would talk about this topic later (video after the next one), so instead of me potentially spoiling that for someone, how about I ask you this: Since we both agree that there is substantial evidence for Sybilla to be an Angel, can you actually prove or at least provide an equivalent (keyword equivalent) amount of evidence against her being one?
@qbek_san
@qbek_san Ай бұрын
Seelies are devolved form of angels*
@unknownboy240
@unknownboy240 Ай бұрын
Please make a video about gosoythoth and white abyss regardless if she is in genshin or not
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 4 күн бұрын
What is yog sothoth white abyss ?
@williamthatsmyname
@williamthatsmyname Ай бұрын
The rating you used for the Angels lore is from the Extra High movie reviews channel right? RIGHT?
@AkiMikado
@AkiMikado Ай бұрын
The vid ended. Still waiting to see who tge abyss waifu is. Is it the one from GGZ?
@nour2736
@nour2736 Ай бұрын
Finally🔥🔥🔥
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