The "Greek" patriot Colocotroni...Kolokotronis the Albanian!!

[@DimaKats2]

Kolokotronis was born at Ramavouni in Messenia, and grew up in Libovitsi in Arcadia. The Kolokotroneoi (original clan name: "Tzeryinis"-çirgin) were a powerful and respected clan in Arcadia in the 18th century

[@sigmaalpha8698]

Kolokotronis was native Greek not Arvanite or Albanian.

[@sigmaalpha8698]

@Redooo That wasn’t his last name lmao. His last name was Tserginis which is a Greek name and “Bitheguri” is just the Albanian translation to Kolokotronis which was his nick name and it means “stone ass”.

[@sigmaalpha8698]

@Redooo No his real identity was Theodoros Kolokotronis and he was Greek. The name Tserginis is a Greek name. You Albanians just like to take Greek names and give them pseudo meanings.

[@sigmaalpha8698]

@Redooo The name Boubouli is Greek genius. Bouboulina wasn’t her real last name, it was Pinotsi. I’m not denying she was Arvanite, but Kolokotronis was not Arvanite, he was a Maniot.

[@sigmaalpha8698]

@Redooo Other sources had stated that he was actually Vlach.

[@sigmaalpha8698]

@Redooo That’s a bull shit article and everyone knows it. Kolokotronis was Greek, not Arvanite. And the name Tserginis is Greek and most definitely not Albanian.

[@kokotselos]

Kolokotronis was from Arcadia. the father of his grandfather name was Triantafillakos Tserginis. He was obayed to leave his home due to turks at 1536. Then they went to messinia and Theodoris Kolokotronis born in Ramavouni mountain.

[@georgetrakas5102]

Just a couple tough questions I have for you..... IF Kolokotronis was Albanian, why then did he fight for Greek independence? How shitty is it for the Albanians to know that one of their greatest heros wouldnt fight for their independence? This whole argument doesnt make sense. You Greeks better recognise, your greatest modern hero was Albanian!!! But he fought for Greeks..... He actually fought against his OWN people!!?!? Why....? If Kolokotronis wasnt Greek, which is an opinion I will never subscribe to, he was the greatest Phil-hellene to exist ever. And his love for the greek people superceded any ties he may have had with Albania. This is what history proves. Any objective onlooker or scholar of history would agree. I have no hate for Albanians. What does this video prove? Other then a supposed native Albanian who loved the Greeks more then his own people. You see in trying to make a point about this you only demean Albania. Any rational person will see where im coming from.

[@adaradavina7450]

As for your Information, there were plenty of albanians fighting for the independence. For all the fighters chronicles say that under 100 fighters 90 Fighters were albanian. Well they used albanians. As an example there were 10.000 muslim albanians fought for the Ottomans against their (orthodoxe) Brothers and Sisters on the greek side. Who at the end created greece and Took the Land from the albanians and started to assimilate albanians , the Western european countries such as Germany under Otto von Bismarck

[@demetres6113]

the owner of this piece of junk, i mean video, must really read the autobiography from Kolokotronis, in which he writes in great detail what the Albanians did to his father, when they killed him in ambush at 1780 ad. And something from his autobiography : «Όταν τους επολέμησεν ο πατέρας μου, οι Αλβανοί του έλεγαν: - Κολοκοτρώνη, δεν κάμεις νισάφι; Και τους λέγει ο πατέρας μου; Τι νισάφι να σας κάμω, όπου ήλθετε και εχαλάσατε την Πατρίδα μου, μας επήρατε σκλάβους και μας εκάμετε τόσα κακά; Τα κεφάλια των Αλβανών έφτιασαν πύργο εις Τριπολιτσά» Of course if you got the same nationality with Kolokotronis you can understand what he is writing.

[@Fizzy332]

+Anax Aetolos *TurkAlbanians. Albanian that served for the ottomans, big difference. He also wrote this in his memoirs at theS iege of Tripolitsa: Inside the town they had begun to massacre. ... I rushed to the palace ... "If you wish to hurt these Albanians," I cried, "kill me rather; for, while I am a living man, whoever first makes the attempt, him will I kill the first." ...

[@demetres6113]

Happy Shqiptar well not really as the turk albanians were the majority of the albanian population in greece at that time...

[@Fizzy332]

Anax Aetolos Are turkalbanians soldiers of ottomans or just muslim Albanians?

[@demetres6113]

Happy Shqiptar i fail to see the difference between turkalbanian or muslim Albanian as turk is the term to describe a muslim in the ottoman empire. Many greeks for example were called turks just because they were muslim. If you go to the western coast of Turkey you can't see anyone that looks like a turk (in fact in whole turkey but that's an other matter). They were greeks that choose to call themselves as turks just because of the lost wars and the pogroms that ottoman empire and kemal did.

[@Fizzy332]

Anax Aetolos Because you have IQ of an fish, i am not suprised. Do not put turk in the same category as Albanian, call me that i would wipe the floor with your face. Many Albanian ''Muslims'' are not religious, Albania even ranks 7th most irreligious country in the world. The Albanians have had it extremly tough, the turks went easily on Greeks and other slavs. Albanian is Albanian if he is Pagan, Atheist, Muslim, Christian, Jew etc etc. We don't indentify with RELIGION like you.

[@naiegweimai]

Kolokotronis was born at Ramavouni in Messenia, and grew up in Libovitsi in Arcadia. The Kolokotroneoi (original clan name: "Tzeryinis"-çirgin) were a powerful and respected clan in Arcadia in the 18th century. Their legendary pride and insubordination is commemorated in a well-known folk song of that time: Ahorse they go to church, Ahorse they kiss the icons, Ahorse they receive communion From the priest's hand.

[@gigiecon]

@KosovaChelsea My dear friend, in his whole memoires he is stating his Greek consciousness and heritage. He was fighting for the liberation of the Greeks. Not Albanians, not Slaves, not Bulgarians... or whatever. Read his memoires first. Which is his life narrated by himself. What he considered himself. Not what you would like him to be. After reading it you may call me whatever you like...

[@jabbathedave]

Ali Pasha was a known Turk Albanian. In Greek lands former Greece as well. What do the English know about the turmoil that went on here? Sounds like he assumed they were Albanian because Ali Pasha was. Sounds like they all fought for Greece to me. The Souliotes have longer fustanella despite what google says, and 1101 - 1200 we have artifact's depicting the fustanella this is FIRST case in history where it shows up.

[@jabbathedave]

The name Illyrians seems to be the name of a single Illyrian tribe that was the first to come into contact with the ancient Greeks, causing the name Illyrians to be applied to all people of similar language and customs wiki google it After the Great Illyrian Revolt, the Romans deported,[2] split,[3] and resettled Illyrian tribes within Illyria itself and to Dacia, sometimes causing whole tribes to vanish and new ones to be formed from their remains, such as the Deraemestae and the Docleatae, some of them mixed with Celtic tribes. Many tribal names are known from Roman civitates and the number of their decuriae,[4] formed of the dispersed tribes in Illyria.

[@jabbathedave]

Ancient Roman and Greek historical sources refer to the early Slavic peoples as Veneti and Spori

[@realtalunkarku]

he was a greek , albanians who abandoned their faith for the ottomans can get lost

[@jp1465]

The correct spelling of his name is, Θεόδωρος Κολοκοτρώνης.

[@ikebinalbo9747]

No his name is Theodor Kolokotroni.

[@ikebinalbo9747]

@ΕΛΛΆΣ 1821 He is Orthodox albanian. Thatsa fact. His name is THEODOR KOLOKOTRONI 🇦🇱

[@ikebinalbo9747]

@ΕΛΛΆΣ 1821 ahahhaahah 😂 a mixed turku-slav gypsy orthodox "greek" likes orthodox albanians who liberated greece. 😂😂👍🏻 THEODOR KOLOKOTRONI 🇦🇱

[@ikebinalbo9747]

@ΕΛΛΆΣ 1821 "ikebini" 😂😂😂 Ike bin means "I'm" in German 😂😂 Gypsy greek 😂😂 logic 0

[@ikebinalbo9747]

@UCCGW6gg-MVWFlRjKlYM6Peg wo wohnst du turko-greko musulmani?

[@POTIS1]

@Arbanitai KASTRIOTIS....THE ALBANIAN HERO WHO HAS SERBIAN MOTHER, GREEK NAME, GREEK-EPIROTAN SURENAME, GREEK NICKNAME (ISKANDARBEYS-MEANS MEGALEXANDROS HEGEMON IN TURKISH), GREEK HELMET, GREEK SEALD, GREEK FLAG (THE RED GREEK-BYZANTINE DOUBLE EAGLE HEAD FLAG...WHERE ALBANIANS ADOPTED LATTER AS THEI FLAG)...GREEK TITLE IN HIS SEALED (EMPEROR OF THE ROMIOI(BYZANTINES-GREEKS), SPOKE THE GREEK LANGUAGE, HIS GRANDFATHER KONSTANTINOS KASTRIOTIS WAS RULER OF EMATHIA(GREECE EVEN TODAY) AND.....

[@ΈΛΛΗΝ2020]

We also have ethnic hellenes following the ethnic religion of polytheism, over 100.000 hellenes which following that, search for YSEE. And that's not only a story, they have the entire right to be what they ever was, that's why they build Temples. Search for Peloponnese genetic from european journal of human genetic. And there you can see and compare who we are and how close we are to the slaws. Almost everything is discovered and proved from scientists!!! I am from peloponnese "Αχαία" and our tribe are the mycaenians and ionias, we are a family with the dorians (spartans). You have to learn so much...

[@martinajt9]

People of Bravehearts, People of Legends, People of Honor. Time to spread it to the world.

[@Ορθοδοξία-ζ1ρ]

Greeks 💪🏻🇬🇷👊🏻

[@FunPlayer22]

kolokotronis is from brazil. or maybe africa im not sure...

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyriansBlood The graeci were a hellenic tribe. I would love to see you disprove that.

[@Flokithedog]

Όταν τους επολέμησεν ο πατέρας μου, οι Αλβανοί του έλεγαν: - Κολοκοτρώνη, δεν κάμεις νισάφι; Και τους λέγει ο πατέρας μου; Τι νισάφι να σας κάμω, όπου ήλθετε και εχαλάσατε την Πατρίδα μου, μας επήρατε σκλάβους και μας εκάμετε τόσα κακά; In his native language, Kolokortonis himself makes it very clear his father is not Albanian... Deductive reasoning, as he is in Greece, talking of his country Greece, means that they are Greek, and at least certainly NOT Albanian. The Albanian propaganda machine keeps pumping out bullshit.... Yet these are the dudes own fucking words.

[@kokotselos]

AHHAHAHAHA another funny video. The real name of Theodoros Kolokotronis was Cherginis. Kolokotronis was his nickname. The father of Kolokotronis at 1770 exterminated 10.000 albanians of Peloponissus that were brought in order to overcome the Greek population.

[@ValaDrinit]

@GemistusPletho what does the word Mat mean/indicate in Greece (year) and what does Mat mean/indicate in Ancient Egyptian (year) they Egyptians will have it on you by almost 1000 years :)

[@IanHunedoara8]

The ancient Leii Canun dictated that Kolkotronis fight the Muslim Albanians that killed his father. Their cruelty drove an Albanian to this just as the destruction of Moscopole by Moheteare Pasha and his son Ali drove the Vlakh into alliance with the Kleftai. The same attitudes of Ali Pasha and his father are now being revived by Adhem Ramadani and his cohorts in Prishtina

[@POTIS1]

@Arbanitai SULIOTS....WIKI SAYS...NOT ME!.....''In Ottoman ruled Epirus, national identity didn't play any role to the social classification of the local society, while religion was the key factor of classification of the local communities. According to this, the Muslim communities in Epirus were classified as Turks, while the Orthodox, like the Souliotes, were classified as Greeks.'' OUPS....WIKI.....BAD GIRL WIKI.....

[@Hopeforstoicism]

Have you read the memoirs of theodoros kolokotronis?please do.They translated them to english and other languages.By the way,the title of his memoirs is "Narration of the events of the Greek race from 1770 to 1836"So much for being an Albanian.

[@PoseidonGRE]

the most hilarious is in 1.31!He is described as an albanian type:tall(!!!!!!!!) with a low retreating forehead(!!!!!!!!!!!!!) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[@ikebinalbo9747]

Wtf. Kolokotroni was albanian

[@POTIS1]

• YEAH...SURE.....WIKI CONFIRMES YOU....KOLOKOTRONIS WAS ALBANIAN..... ''Theodoros Kolokotronis (Greek: Θεόδωρος Κολοκοτρώνης) (3 April 1770 - 15 February 1843) was a Greek general and one of the leaders of the Greek War of Independence against the Ottoman Empire.'' ANYONE ELSE ALBANIAN DID YOU HAVE TO SHOW US???

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

The albanians are native illyrians heavily mixed with people coming from regions such as the caucasus. It is clearly proved by anthropology. Since they are a dinaric race with a big mix of armenoid characteristics. The true dinaric does have a high forehead and not a very backwards sloping one like the albanians. I know because I am a dinaric individual. And that is also proven by Pitsios, I mean that the arvanites have on 80-90% orthometopy when albanians have on

[@alexander66sir]

You Malakas Theodoros (Theo+doro=God+Gift= Godgifted) Kolokotronis (kolo+kotroni=column+stone) was Greek, borned in Arkadia - Peloponense...From the same village with my Grand Grand parents where no Turk has ever stepped there. He was Greek descndant of Dorian - Hellenes like Macedonians! His Grand grand children are still alive and know better...Malakes! Recently the last alive person (Woman) of Kolokotronis family gave in publicity all his notes. Also My Grand Grand Father fought in his side.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyriansBlood I don't do propaganda on the SLIGHTEST scale. That is only a comment of you. Albanians are lllyrians because they are partly dinaric anthropologically - and "dinaric" is not a term credited randomly to that sub-race of europeans. Southern serbs, vlachs, albanians are dinaric ( remember where the morlachs came from) and even if they are genetically similar ( yes most possibly) or not that shows A LOT. And that because albanians have anatolid-armenoid faces which no one else has!

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai no you are not a real dinaric because I exemplify the features of this race even combined with the alpinid ones ( though the latest on a small scale). JUST DESCRIBE YOURSELF if you fail to see a video for some reason. Go look at southern serbs if you want dinarics. There are dinarics in albania but mostly armenoids ( the armenoids have some certainly similar traits with the dinaric like a flattened occiput, they are called taurids)

[@MrVagenaCity]

Just read hes biography... And if u have a brain u can understand if he was Greek or not ....!!! Read hes bio, so simple. Hes talking about hes life and about revolution !!! You can find the book on internet very easy...

[@lampiify]

Iam half pontic greek and halv arvanitis greek we arvanites are greeks PROUD greeks !!!!! Epirus makedonia KONSTANTINOPOULI thraki pontos asia minor cyprus are greek earth

[@kranosdainese423]

Και γιατί Ρε Καραγκιόζη μιλάς την γλώσσα μας και δεν μιλάτε ελληνικά?

[@lampiify]

@@kranosdainese423 ti les more emeis kseroume arvanitika kai ti simeni ego Milao soudika eimai soudios?

[@lampiify]

@@kranosdainese423 i arvanites einai elliniko filo ellines!!!!

[@kranosdainese423]

greek pontic from sweden η μητρική τους γλώσσα είναι αρβανιτκη δηλαδή είναι κλάδος της τοσκικη αλβανικης διαλεκτου οι Αρβανιτες καταγονται από το αρβανον που είναι στη σημερινή Αλβανία με λίγα λόγια να στο πω λαϊκά είναι οι μετανάστες το μεσαίωνα που κατέβηκαν στην Ελλάδα που ήταν Βυζάντιο δηλαδή οι χριστιανοί τότε αλβανοί που κράτησαν την πίστη δηλαδή δεν γίνανε μουσουλμανοι όπως αποκαλείται λανθασμένα και προπαγανδιστικα τουρκαλβανους. Η έννοια τουρκαλαβος δεν υπαρχει αλβανος μουσουλμανος υπάρχει αλλά έτσι είναι όταν υπάρχει τόσο αμορφωσια που μπερδευετε το έθνος με την θρησκεία

[@lampiify]

@@kranosdainese423 alvanos alo kai arvanites -ellines alvani einai apo kaufkasos ajde more me zalises agramate do Milas den kalachevo Milas pontiaka i pontoi ti einai den ine ellines emeis eimaste apo tous arxeous ellines file Mou trantellenas sti xoraa diladi 30 FORES ellines !!!!

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@AlbanianMalsor: @AlbanianMalsor: I can bring you an unending list of albanian Beys, Pashas, Commanders and everything else that you think of with TURKISH NAMES that collaborated with the albanians. Albanians were no.1 collaborators with the turks, u can find them in EVERY instance. Ofc there were muslims in all balkans but u remain fanatical muslim till today commiting monstrosities ( not cause ur muslim necessarily) against unarmed populations and even demolishing historical buldings

[@naskhes]

Just a quick question. What are the albanian history books, the ones used officially in schools have to say about this? Do they also say that kolokotronis and the gang were albanians?

[@naiegweimai]

Theodoros Kolokotronis (Greek: Θεόδωρος Κολοκοτρώνης) (3 April 1770 - 4 February 1843) was a Greek Field Marshal and the pre-eminent leader of the Greek War of Independence against the Ottoman Empire. Nickname O Geros tou Morea Ο Γέρος του Μοριά Born April 3, 1770 Ramavouni, Morea, Ottoman Empire Died February 4, 1843 (aged 72) Athens, Greece Buried at First Cemetery of Athens Allegiance Greece United States of the Ionian Islands Rank Field Marshal (Greece)

[@ISTORICAR]

The Turkish village which formally clustered around the base of the Acropolis [old Athens] has not disappeared: it forms a whole quarter of the town. An immense majority of the population in this quarter is composed of Albanians. (Greece and the Greeks of the Present Day, by Edmund About, page 160.)

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai It is not wholly verifiable who are the albanoi or arvanites mentioned each time in these texts. I think in Alexiada it's made more clear. And I don't know who these albanoi mentioned in Maniakis text where. If you find it you will understand immediately what Im talking about. What I know FOR SURE though is the anthropological facts about today's albanians and not like 8 centuries back. Anthropology cannot be defied. Just look at the videos I posted to you!!!

[@POTIS1]

@Arbanitai YES...ABOUT PTOLEMY I MADE A MISTAKE.....PTOLEMY MAP WAS SHOW ALBANOPOLIS IN TODAY NORTH ALBANIA...MY APOLOGIES...BUT LETS CONTINUE...WITH WIKI.... The Latin name Albānia denotes "mountainous land"[2] and is mentioned by Plinius the Elder and Aulus Gellius.[4] The native name for the country is unknown.[5].A city named Albanopolis[6][7] existed in the region of Armenia.'' ALBANOPOLIS IS IN ARMENIA TOO?? WTF...CHOOSE YOUR ORIGINS!

[@Spartangladiator668]

Ahaahahahahahahahahaah Kolokotronis laughed at that disliked trash video

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyriansBlood You have a wrong picture of greeks in your mind. There is certainly an amount of non-white and non-greek looking ones but the general population has a distinct look present nowhere else in the earth, you can recognize it easily. There are nearly no dark skinned greeks, even those that are for long under the sun are distinguishably white in features and are pale where the sun does not heat. Even a a very small amount of dark skinned greeks has native facial structure.

[@hk112]

Not only he was not Albanian,but his father eliminated the Albanians from Peloponisos in 1779 with...Turkish assistance!!!His father created an "albanian tower" to honor his victory... I say no more about this trophy...It was a cruel and barbaric action of revenge but under the circumstances it was excused...

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyrianArberore You are partly wrong on your anthropological speculations. I can say simply this, that not all albanians look the same although more or less all share some distinct looks. I have seen albanians looking mongoloid, negroid or pakistani ( especially the last one!) and at the same time albanians that look more like commong caucasians. Explain that differentiation taking place inside a certain race. Where did the native greeks go??? What are you talking about, I am common white

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@MrVendetta003 hahahahaha So now serbian, which is a slavic language, is close to greek. HAHAHAHA ARE YOU EVEN AWAKE?!!?!

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyriansBlood And aryan races are originally persians and persian-alike races like medes,karduchs,nuristanis and such. Aryan might have a word used in antiquity in Hellas and other now-european places with the same meaning as the persian one meaning noble but it was never used to indicate ancestry in contrast to the way the persians used it for themselves and also that is written down by herodotus I believe - that these people were called uniformaly aryans at a certain time

[@realtalunkarku]

the first inhabitans of greece were indo europeans bud

[@gdhellas1]

Ok latest news. We Hellines discover that Kolokotronis was from Sri Lanka, yes yes yes its true

[@ΈΛΛΗΝ2020]

😂😂Είναι πολύ ΜΑΛΆΚΕΣ τελικά, μα τόσο... Δλδ ΤΌΣΟ!!!!

[@toumistra]

Macedonians (or the Skopjians) received a nation with pen and paper from the western powers without fighting!!! They were saved during wwII by fleeing south to Greece. Many of them fought bravely with Greeks for freedom. Many Macedonian people were mistreated after the war in Greece and that was Not right! But don't ever think that it gives you the right to talk pure shit about the hero's of our independence. With all the foreign people in Greece, especially Albanians it wont make for a nice t

[@ubermensch2430]

Kolokotrini is An Albanian hero and spoke Albanian , just like Marko Bocari !

[@ubermensch2430]

@ΕΛΛΆΣ 1821 you just mention the reason Epirus is Albania , stupid !

[@Ορθοδοξία-ζ1ρ]

@@ubermensch2430 Kolokotronis & Botsaris KILLED ALBANIANS and NEVER Greeks 👊🏻

[@MusicSpeedz]

Does the name theodoros kolokotroni or theodoros kolokotronis sound Albanian or greek?

[@freeillyria5345]

Your name is English, does that make you an English? We must be all from England then.:)

[@iliriacum666]

+Free Europe No...he is form Mongolia...

[@Fizzy332]

Koloktroni does sound do Albanian. Koloktronis friends used to call him ''Bythguri'', which means in Albanian literally ''Ass stone''. Because he was always in the mountains sitting on stones.

[@nikosmihalo4706]

first of all in hpeiros exist greek dna from ancient years.... secondly kolokotronis kill turkoalbanians and you want kolokotronis to be albanian lol!!! is like me i want kemal to be greek because he was born in thessaloniki... and a lot kapadokes and pontioi (is like arvanites exist and arvanites bilingual like suliotes) talk turkish language but fight turks because is not turkish race..

[@levesd3722]

@iliriacum666 But you are from Dagestan ;-)

[@ValaDrinit]

@GemistusPletho im not saying they're albanian, but they're far from Greek. everything you mentioned was knowledge which came to you guys from Sumerians, Akkadians, Ancient Egyptians etc :)

[@Broski1000100]

You all clearly don't know what a Hellene is and has been for centuries. The Ancient Hellenes did not refer to 'race' (it would have been comical, since at the time this term applied to a small group of 'clans'). Admittedly, a racial consciousness existed in the classical period, which lacks credibility today, given that before and after 1821 other racial groups were absorbed, many of whose number can only be described as 100% Hellenic. A Hellene is one who shares Hellenic mindset, a feeling which makes them feel a connection to Hellas. Kolokotronis, fought for Hellas along with the Arvanites, he shed his blood, his tear and his sweat for Hellas. That's what a Hellene is. If you were to ask him what he was, he would have laughed and said something along the lines of "what am i fighting for?". Ask any Arvanite today what they are and they will say with might "ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ" (Hellenas). I forgot to add, he wasn't from Arvanitic extraction himself but, rather adopted the Arvanite look as that was the costume of most people in the area in which he lived.

[@benweb1105]

So at that time everyone in Greece was proud to speak Albanian and dress Albanian... Why nowadays you hate Albanian langauge and folk songs?! Did the Church still tell you that the 'God will only understand you in Church langauge, which come from Asia?!'

[@benweb1105]

@GREEK SOULI , I am American today, that does not mean I am no longer Albanian or Greek also! You are not understanding that the name "Greek" meant a Territory of ex-Empire Multi-Ethnic people. But most of them were Albanian origin.

[@benweb1105]

Also consider that "hellen" Ellin illin illir illyrian .... Believers in Stars! But the Main Powers set you up with confusion when made you accept something that is not true: "Hellene" (called Pagan religion by Christians) "Greek" (Christian Orthodox religion).

[@benweb1105]

@GREEK SOULI "historically proven" ... you mean the last 100 year of Propaganda full of lies?! You have not even started to learn some True Historical fact... because they put you in Nihilism! Unfortunately! You are saying "you", but I may be more Greek than you actually! Many Albanian nowadays are becoming Serbian, Greek, Italian, Turkish, etc.... and do not like to even mention that they are Albanian! Imaging in another Generation and after the Serbian take over of Albania Directly... like is happening now?! After Albanian take over by Serbian, even the Greeks will be at risk of becoming Serbian. After all, they do claim that any where where the build a Serbian Church it must be Serbian land. Like near Thessaloniki in Mount Athos for instance.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai You obviously didnt read the comment that answered about the attaliate's albanoi. I am not lying and neither do it need to. There is no reason to prove anything anyway. What I know is that albania used the help of turks back then and it was then that you took kosovo, then collaborated with german nazis to slay the epirote population, then spared their land to italians in order to invade greece, still have sympathies to turks and they now use nato against SERBS and greeks.

[@ValaDrinit]

@GemistusPletho western civilization has its roots in Sumerian and then it eventually climbed up to greece (150 years or so) then moved over to the Romans and eventually the Brits

[@levesd3722]

lol

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@AlbanianMalsor: In every country there were collaborators with the nazis... That is natural since there are different movements ( so-called movements actually chance-grabber parties) that would follow either hitler or stalin in variable situations depending on the faction. Greece was with the Allies and appart from organization mistakes fought bravely together with the yugoslavs ( remember serbs didnt permit hitler pass through serbia). Even Hitler acknowledges it.

[@james501001]

Even that documentary didnt mention him as such. It named Bocari,Miuli, Bubulina etc but not Kolokotroni. Really, get a life.

[@kokotselos]

you must understand that Albanians never existed like nation before 1914. Tribes under Genousos river were hellenic thousands of years ago. And I dont say that. Anthropologists like Hammond,Bellock, Wilkes (Illyrian specialist),Xirotiris,and Aris Poulianos have proven that. Albanians anthropologicaly have nothing to do with Hellenic tribes.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

Respond to this video... Sotis Volanis is a well known gypsy and so is one lady. The first priest is a white mediterranean person. The sausage seller is a vlach, I dont have anything against vlachs. There are idd some shit-face types you can meet in greece but the one posted are extreme though they can be found here and there but certainly not the norm! And lol, what did u think, I was actually checking what to movie to see, u know life is not youtube, and i have to leave in a bit

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai Kolokotronis was no arvanite and that is obvious, he may have played the role of one in order to become a klepth. Was he it wouldn't matter. But ALBANIANS as I just proved to you are not exactly arvanites but a heavy mix of caucasians and native illyrians ( arvanites). SEE FOR YOURSELF.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai I don't deny Kastrioti's and his mens' struggle ofc I told you how the empire fell. If you don't trust go look it up yourself, examine the general consensus of historians. Start with wikipedia as very general information if you wanna but at least start from somewhere. I do have to question though that if the albanians that fought back then with Kastrioti were really of exactly the same descend like the today's albanians. Look up at the arberesh, they don't all look exactly alba.

[@benweb1105]

Greece used to be the name of an Albanian region much like Epir, Emathia (Macedonia), Dardania (Kosovo), Malesia (Montenegro), etc. So, he was an Albanian from the region of Greece!

[@ted5567]

xaxaxaxaxaxa lol no greece is actualy from the planet quonos we are klingons qapla? idiot????

[@levesd3722]

lmao, total bullcrap

[@GimPukaleshi-Kurtishi]

Leves D Reality hurts you, right?

[@levesd3722]

Mergo Gheg Highlander it sure hurts your delusional a$$

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai Great I would love to see you mentioning many of these occasions that greeks lost. The arvanites were a part of those that liberated greece, what do you think that they are especially programmed to be the only ones to fight? Why today we speak greek and not arvanitika then and why are we called greece? The only one complaining is you when it's not even a matter of you, neither the arvanites themselves nor the vlachs . How can that be?

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

Ofc there are foreign looking greeks. But that is only a fraction of the respective % of dark arab looking albanians. And don't tell me no!!! I have to say that the native or/and white looking albanians can be seen but they are the minority everywhere I see them. It always goes like that. The most notable trait is the very backwards sloping forehead that is not presented in arvanites for instance.

[@kokotselos]

Kolokotronis statement/confession about his Greek origin does not mean that he was not Albanian? lol. I show you HIS own statement that he was Greek and I have never seen a convincing document about Suliotans origin exept the language that is an extremelly unstable fact to judge. And finaly if you have 5-10 names of "Albanians" that helped revolution I have for fun 150 names of turkalbanian leaders of Turks. the biggest enemy of Greece those days were not turks but turkalbanians

[@napoleonromanos3875]

Ok, since what you say is 'true' ...why dont you make a statue of him at Korce? All the Balkans peninsula owes him the liberation from the Turks?

[@azach5288]

How do you make an Albanian omelette? You start by stealing two eggs

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai I admitted that there are dark skinned greeks, your just using cheap excuses because you saw the video and became dissapointed, haha! but there are nearly no armenoids, I have only met countable in one hand's fingers. It's very rare, though not inexistant. One had a curious nordic-armenoid mix, which is very strange as he was white with blue eyes and blond hair, he might have been armenian most possibly as i feel it. Say whatever you want.

[@ValaDrinit]

@AegeanKing these guys that migrated into mainland greece and its surrounding Islands were mostly northern Albanians that ran away from the Slavic and Bulgarian occupation in 12th and 13th c. :/

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyrianArberore Who said that I dissagree that arvanites are a different race? Find me an occasion.

[@settenovetre]

...then why did he participated in the Greek revolution in 1821 and became a field marshal of the Greek army?

[@ikebinalbo9747]

He is a assimilated albanian. The religon was more important than the nation. Thats why he calls himself "Greek". You are a "Greek" when you are a orthodox Christ.

[@settenovetre]

@@ikebinalbo9747 Questionable claim considering that orthodox Albanians who self-identify as Albanians exist. To be clear, Arvanites exist (I know you're getting there), but Kolokotronis wasn't one. And while of Albanian ancestry, most Arvanites have lived so long in Greece and among Greeks that they consider themselves Greeks. You'd have your nose broken by one of them if you'd call Albanian an Arvanite, even though it wouldn't be incorrect broadlly speaking.

[@Ορθοδοξία-ζ1ρ]

@@ikebinalbo9747 HE KILLED YOUR ANCESTORS in Dervenakia Tripolitsa Valtetsi Nayplio 👊🏻🇬🇷

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai Didn't the arvanite Bocari you mention got killed by an albanian? Weren't the Suliots fighting against Ali Pasha??? Most battles they had were with albanians, not even turks in the biggest part lol. You won't tell them who the arvanites were because I am one (though partly) and you might even be a turk. You still miss all the points or pretend to having ignored them.

[@POTIS1]

@Arbanitai NO SOME GREEKS!! YOU CAN WIKI ''GREEK EMPIRES''. NOW ENJOY THE BYZANTINE GREEK EMPIRE MR...NON-ARBANITAI (CAUSE ARVANITES ARE GREEKS AND YOU ARE ALBANIAN).

[@Pimkiblues]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@POTIS1]

@Arbanitai PTOLEMY IS PROVEN THAT WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT ''ALBANIA'' HE WAS MEAN THE ALBANIA IN CAUCASOS WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS CAME FROM....NEXT TO IBERIA. SARCH THE MAP AND SEE IT YOUR SELF

[@POTIS1]

@IllyriansBlood RE MAPA, I DIDNT SAID ALL THOSE FACTS ABOUT ARVANITES...WIKI IS WRITEN ON AND GO READ THEM! I SEND YOU SOURCES AND YOU ONLY BLAH-BLAH-HOXHA-BLAH-BLAH.....

[@ΕλενηΝικολοπουλου-ξ5ο]

Τι αλλο θα δουμε θεε μου

[@ValaDrinit]

@AegeanKing the difference between me and you is that i dont need to be either or to identify myself as an albanian. cant say that im able to say the same about you and your greekness.

[@ekazakos]

@DonikaKastrioti They were Greeks in blood, nationality and fought for the formation of the Greek State (certainly) not the Albanian, in many battles they crushed the Albanian mercenary corps serving the Ottomans. Your state never existed in history and was only formed after the Great Powers decided to do so. Reading a history has never harmed anyone.Respect our history and don;t try to live on the Idea of the Great Albania - it never existed never will.

[@vaskar1061]

Bobo! Take a look your SERBIAN hero KASTRIOT and the rest VLACHS like FRASHERI, VEQILHARXHI, VRETO, PASKO, PASKALI, GRAMENO, ETC and leave our Kolokotroni.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai If you knew the albanian race you wouldn't say they are white. Sorry, I don't know if you are white ( and when I say white, yes, I mean around the color of milk or paper or between that and olive). Every single albanian immigrant in greece, from the kids to the adults are not only dark skinned bust mostly charcoal and they can be spotted easily all the time. Do you want me to go down the road and start taking photos or what?

[@diavoliaris]

I myself am an Arcadian discedant of Kolokotronis and don't this kind of shit Taken from the reliable text you showing us "bla bla Albanian bla bla tall lean bla bla" man this stupid writer must have "seen" Kolokotronis with an Albanian "askeri" that were fighting by the side off Turks, cause everyone exept Turks new that you couldn't easly find someone as short as him. Only Turks and their allies though that he was tall, in all the fights he was hiding in the back not to spoill this myth.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai ermmm... aren't the arberesh ( ok they indeed have albanian conscience ) the supposed ancestors of Kastrioti's army. I have also heard that part of them comes from the arvanites that's why there are songs like "E bukura more" and such that speak about pelloponessus. Well these people do look partly albanian I confess but they look like having a strong meditteranean element aswell just as the arvanites do!!! when the albanians are never mediterranean. so defy that.

[@ΈΛΛΗΝ2020]

Α θΉ NA, ( ΑΘΕΟΝΌΑ) THE INTELLECT OF GOD) this name already appeared for the first time on a tablet of the Minoans in Linear A, in late antiquity the city was named after her with the additional meaning, The goddess of the temple, Α ΘΕΆ (the goddess) ΝΑΌ (Τemple), the protector of the city, also the meaning ΑΘΆΝΑΤΟ, immortal. The PARTHENON, ΠΑΡΘΕΝΏΝΑΣ, was built for athena, the virgin ΠΑΡΘΈΝΑ, temple of the virgin. The Romans built a similar temple, but less impressive than the Parthenon, as it shows columns only on the front side and is walled up all around. The Romans kept the Greek name PANTHEON, ΠΑΝ =ALL, ETERNAL and ΘΕΌΝ=GOD, GODS ( All and the eternal gods respectively). When explaining Afrodite (the Greek Φ corresponds to ph and not F, hence APHRODITE), I had to laugh especially.... Proximity and day 🤣 ΑΦΡΌΣ (foam) + ΑΝΔΎΩ (appear, emerge, arise). After the genitals of Ouranos were severed from his son Kronos and thrown into the sea, the beautiful and fragrant ΑΦΡΟΔΊΤΗ emerged from the sea foam. ZEUS, ΖΕΥΣ is the ancient Greek name that first appeared in the Indo-European language DYEUS. ΔΊΑΣ ΔΊΟΣ, ΘΕΊΟΣ, ΘΕΌΣ = DIAS, is the name for the shining. (God). Both ΖΕΥΣ and ΔΊΑΣ, found the same usage, depending on the Greek tribes and sialect one pronounced one of the two. Later, ΔΊΑΣ reached the Romans, they called it DIES-PITER, (DIES is a Latin word that means day and later, during the immigration, the Albanians took it like so many things...). The Romans developed from it JU-PITER, Latin IVPITER, IV=DEU, ΖΕΥ (BRIGHT, LUMINOUS in the case God ) PITER (HEAVEN, AIR) = GOD ABOVE OPEN HEAVEN, but also IV PATER, the father of the sky. The words of Homer are not lost at all, in fact we found synonyms for them if the term means anything to you, while we combine ancient and modern greek and still keep the original meaning, albanians used the ancient Greek language in combination with latin and other Slavic words with completely different meanings. No one today will use only Homer's words to converse, synonyms have developed in other languages as well. SUMMER, ΚΑΛΟΚΑΊΡΙ, ΚΑΛΌ =WELL, NICE, ΚΑΙΡΌΣ =WEATHER. English : Summer German: Sommer both nations have no explanations for that word, they just learnd that summer is the meaning of nice weather, while ΚΑΛΟΚΑΊΡΙ describes both words, nice and weather. Of course they don't know what all the words means, they just learnd these in school to communicate, only if they would learn the roots of these words, they would understand. Everything in hellas began with the IDEA = ΙΔΈΑ 💡, and everything you know to day is what we create. SYSTEM =ΣΎΣΤΗΜΑ. HOMER = ΌΜΗΡΟΣ , Ο μή όρών Ο ΜΗ = THE NOT, ΌΡΏΣ = SEEKING, (he was known in ancient times for his blindness) later this name was given the meaning spouse or also hostage). ALEXANDROS Αλεξέην = protect, Άνδρος = Man/Human, protector of the humans. Philippos ΦΙΛΟΣ =friend/love, ΊΠΠΟΣ = horse, the guy who loves the horses and Alexander's father loved horses! HIPPO > hippopotamus = river horse, potamus= ΠΟΤΑΜΌΣ = river. We can explain everything, over 150,000 Greek words are used all over the world and always will be, as we are the cradle of Europe if not the whole world, as our system is used worldwide, architecture, art, philosophy, mathematics, physic, astronomy, democracy. Almost all parliament buildings worldwide are greek architecture. Even the white house in washington. Our names are born from phylosophical considerations and deeds, names are not simply born, they are made. Every word already has an explanation in it, so only we understand the complexities. You still have to eat a lot of bread before you dare to make history that a Greek can shatter by counter-evidence !!!!

[@dojchinstanojkov8397]

Fustanela AS proof of identity???? Every peasant ON the Balkan peninsula and middle east wore something similar, from Vojvodina to Pakistan. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

[@MusicSpeedz]

He started the revolution from Kalamata, went to a church there first that I have been to,asked god for help for his cause, then went on for the WIN!!

[@ValaDrinit]

@AegeanKing my father was in the Yugoslavian army when kosova was a republic of yougoslavia... does that mean that he loved them and considered them brothers... absolutely not, its just that if he didnt go and tried to run away, my entire family would have been killed :/

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyriansBlood Yea, but albania was under submission for 500 years and you were cooperating fully with turks, albania was like a second turkey back then or strategically fully an expansion of the ottoman state ( the correct name anw). There are many turkish looking albanians and many turks that have eastern faces look the same as albanians. I don't know even if they needed to mix with you, since you were obedient. I don't deny that greeks were also mixed.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@POTIS1 They even have a muslim temple facing at Kastrioti's statue. But I share a differentiated opinion. That Kastriotis is half albanian ( not turkalbanian like the modern ones, and that proves the mixing that took place afterwards) and half serbian. It obvious after his mother's, sisters', brothers' names that they are serbian. I think it is also clearly recorded. Why they think of every greek hero as albanian and kastrioti never as half-serbian, I don't get it.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyrianArberore I love the fact that your heroes that craved "autonomy" like most of their places were even of their race. The only ones that crave "autonomy" are albanians simply because, all the turk servants were albanians. They were like an extension of the turks. Greeks did not invite the ottomans to the balkans, get a clue, read history and see what happened exactly after constantinople fell when the turks cought strategic positions and were numerous & with an army.

[@ValaDrinit]

@GemistusPletho o God... the word Mat comes from Ancient Egyptian mythology k and so does the word MATHEMATICS??? even the "Greek" alphabet isnt Greek but Phoenican... o wow you added vowels .... lol, try bs'in someone else, im an Ancient History minor, Accounting major cause thats where the moneys at :/ hehe

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai Look that has taken long enough. Muslim or not the mentality is the same on albanians, I mean actually a similar to muslim one. Take a look at only some of the names of you albanian servants to turks, then try to do the same with greeks if you say that they were serving up to the point that albanians in reality did: Omer Pasha Vryoni Ahmet Pasha Vryoni Ishmael Pasha Pliassa Isuf Pasha Perkofchali Musta-bey Tahir-Abazi Melek Pasha Geka Mustafa-Bey Ago Basiari

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai Karefil-bey, Teleha-bey Fezhon, Mustafa-bey Kafezhezi, Silihtar Boda, Ago Muhurdari, Nurkha Servani, Ali Bey, Tahir Papulia, Mustafa-bey, Ali-bey, Ishmael-bey Vliori, Beli-bey Viaji, Ishmael-bey Kokka, Islam Pronio, Bialio Huso, Frashari, Ibraim Premeti, Hussein-Bey, Djafer-bey, Zene Tsapari, Ishmael Beni Konitsa, Mohammet Daliani, Sulje Kodja, Elmaz Medjo, Jelaledin-bey, Tseko-bey, Jinko Hamedji, Mato-aga Latifi, Maksut Stropoli, Kalem tepeleni. Continue? ALL albanian names LOL

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

I don't think names if examined on that scale cannot reveal history... I mean were they out of random? Who were the turkalbanians back then? It was not a majority christian albanian revolution ofc and I can prove it to you. It is recorded in an author's work that even albanians quote. It is said that always the arvanite population is a small % on every region but notably bigger than the rest of ethnic %s. So even mathematically it cannot be a majority arvanite revolution mathematically.

[@panospapavasiliou174]

Here we go again with this idiotic propaganda first of all kolototronis was 100% Greek and no were to his memoirs mentioned that was albanian secont do you know how many Albanians he killed? if he and all Greek revolutionaries was Albanians why they killed so many turkAlbanians and ottomans they would never killed their own blood also arvanites is another Greek race their languange is a mixture of albanian slavic and ancient Greek dialect and was affected by regional races if Arvanites was Albanians too why fight always to Greek side and kill so many Albanians and not only at 1821 and at greco Italian war again fight in our side against Italians and alabnians so stop this idiotic propaganda and read some real history because if you continue like this you will tell us that the Vikings was alabnians too 😂😂 go to sleep now shqiptari

[@MusicSpeedz]

For valadrinit only philosophy? Not medicine ?why are all medical terms in Greek words? Mathematics? Why are most math terms in Greek words? Poetry, trigonometry, so many more. Marathons, Olympics, a Greek first figured out the earth was round not flat Google it .the thermometer, the anchor so many more it would bore you if I named all that greeks invented. Don't forget democracy! Just Google what greeks have invented.

[@levesd3722]

there were never any heroes with 'albanian blood'.

[@kokotselos]

and if you want to solve all your questions go find Kolokotronis biography that has title "Διήγησις συμβάντων της ελληνικής φυλής από τα 1770 έως τα 1836" . In english "Facts narration of Greek tribe from 1770 till 1836"

[@7xdim]

yes, they also say that albanians are brave, clever and handsome.......xaxaxaxaaxaxaaxaa

[@GimPukaleshi-Kurtishi]

007a We didn’t say that, lol..only your greeks females says so. 😀

[@levesd3722]

Mergo Gheg Highlander while you boxheads clean toilets? ahahahahah

[@ValaDrinit]

@AegeanKing i said they were mercenaries, you said they werent... the mercenaries killed whoever they could, thats why they were getting paid for, they didnt discriminate..... others were forcefully drafted and had no choice :/ no one is making excuses here... lets not forget that it was the serbs who invited the turks for help after their endless efforts to subdue Pjeter Losha and Gjin Shpata failed miserably.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@Arbanitai I didnt claim arbanitai means greek origin, by us i mean the arvanites because i am one aswell. Arbanitai is however a greek from, and a difference is made in Alexiada i believe. To be honest I am somewhat tired to search. Try to find the text that mentions Maniakis campaign with the albanians and then Anna Komnena's one ( alexiada). I don't know especially about you but most albania cannot be only from albanoi tribe since it was obviously a native tribe.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@AlbanianMalsor: The albanian chams commited crimes against the epirote population that lived side by side with them till then and where nearly identical. If u know any greek or have any friend/family member I can show you a video. It's called ( dunno if that appears): Τσαμουρια - Τα εγκληματα των τσαμηδων. See the epistle of the german officer most of all. THEN zervas came nearly a year later and killed them back. Grand majority of albania is still muslim...

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

That is also true if you look up on albanian surnames in the internet and then greek. The albanian ones are numerically if not more turkish than the really albanians ones close indeed. That there are numerically turkish surnames close or greater than albanian ones that means that even the population is heavily turkish (sur)named. On the contrary ofc there is both a big amount of turkish surnames in greece and of people named like that but in any way not in that big scale. I highly doubt 1/10

[@naiegweimai]

hahahahahahahahahah!!!kolokotronis was albanian,alexander the great was from fyrom,aristotle and plato were bulgarian,leonidas was egyptian and periklis was turk!in addition napoleon,jenghis chan,attila and julius cesar were also albanians :P

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@EnlightenedShqiptar My friend, I am led to believe that you are a white albanian. If I accept the truth about my people will you do the same aswell for your own people? The Pete Sampras example is correct and he looks like a freagin arab. You have to note though that he is 1/4 jew. That is NOT the average greek, he even looks foreign!!! If from the start I had seen only his face without knowing the name I would never have guessed greek. I am pasty white dinaricized mediterranean.

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@IllyrianArberore As if pashas are an albanian innovation, as if Ali is a pure albanian name, as if he had no connections to the Ottoman turks in order to be given a province. The only thing you've shown me is a bunch of local rulers and albanian commanders propably offering greatest deals to their multiethnic subjugates than the turks that leading albanian, greek, slavic, jewish or even poor turks against the ottomans. Remember what the court of ali consisted. No freedom fighters here...

[@RockOnMotherfuckers]

@valdrin85 The arvanites weren't northern albanians for sure. Who were great obedient servants? The arvanites or the greeks? Cause I have both ancestries. And so to speak albanians are indigenous illyrians mixed largely with turks and caucasian elements and if you ask me I can prove it to you leaving you no doubt. The most pure illyrians are the arvanites and the vlachs. Both in greece they were largely hellenized racially. Kolokotronis might had vlach origins aswell I dunno but not albo.