Can You Win Big Without Going All-in?

[@chrisko6439]

Bart's laughter when the s*it happens (like the 6 on river) is always so good :)

[@thaThRONe]

I did not expect 85ss when this call started.

[@pot_kivach160]

14:46 _So, it's very unfortunate run out for you_ Is that how we call a bad play??

[@cnyjay]

That Poker House Live stream is my favorite to watch, especially because of the spectacular commentary and the stream's openness to poker newbies. No other stream offers this combination to such a degree. Wonderful to see the stream mentioned here! 👍❤️

[@Mauricio-kf8qx]

You gotta jam turn! He’s telling you he loves his hand, and wants to put as much money in as possible, your bluffs would want to shove the turn anyways, for example aq with a of spades. You take a huge risk of another spade rolling off, a 6 rolling off or an ace or a king rolling off!

[@xertion4870]

How is AQ with a spade a bluff?

[@Mauricio-kf8qx]

@@xertion4870 his opponents bet sizing is repping better than top pair top kicker

[@xertion4870]

@@Mauricio-kf8qx So what are you hoping to fold out I guess is my question?

[@Mauricio-kf8qx]

@@xertion4870 two pair, sets possibly smaller flushes, really just looking to realize all your equity

[@ZakFromOhio]

That 666 runout. I'm over here on the flop screaming at my computer screen for the caller to x/r, and even more loudly on the turn. Great video.

[@GetMeThere1]

I originally thought QQ with a spade. This is just a reminder how there ALWAYS seems to be a new way to get tortured in this game, lol.

[@matthewronchetti2915]

You think he's using a 6x sizing pre, and then immediately turning QQ into a massive bluff on an AK6 monotone board?

[@fevolenko3995]

On flop I put villain on a set or AxQs AK Just heard Bart say villain likely has valu/protection. Agree

[@PokrRat777]

That's pretty out there on villains' part. I understand the flop sizing...fish hate to have their flush downgraded so go nuts trying to protect it. However, the turn bet is highly unusual on a paired board.

[@kevinorellanaable]

If he had a full house on the turn, he wouldn't have bet pot. You have to reraise flop or shove on the turn.

[@PokrRat777]

@@kevinorellanaable I don't agree that he wouldn't bet pot on the turn with a boat. I've seen a lot of wacky shit from bad players, and IMO this villain is just clicking buttons without much of a thought process. I certainly agree that flop is a raise. As played, I probably shove turn 70% and hero fold the rest.

[@kevinorellanaable]

@Julien Luckasavitch you can't fold. Some players will do this with AK, AQ with the queen of spades, QQ with the Queen of spades and worse flushes. If you fold you're to exploitable.

[@manifestyourlife6]

Wow good game lol villain and hero hate money.

[@chazsmith20]

Villain starts with a 6x BB preflop raise, which already screams AA, KK or AK and that range absolutely smashes the flop. He's betting for protection AND value. I'm jamming that flop FOR SURE. You don't want another spade dropping and scaring him off (or worse Beating you!).

[@Seoken_]

That 2x on the flop was definitely for protection, low flushes kind of play like sets on monotone boards, or at least I see this a lot in 2-5 stakes live play. They are betting to specifically target single card higher card flush draws and 2 pairs (AK especially).

[@guitargallery2375]

Another great video. Thank you Bart.

[@brettmasonmedia]

Funny. I lost on this identical board with AK when villain had A6. One of the grossest beats I’ve taken

[@jameswalker7420]

His flop bet is so strong and so donkish that I'm just shoving here and now. There's a lot of semi bluffs he can put us on, and many hands that he'll call us with. AA, Kk, 66, AK AxQs, maybe A6. And there's just so many ugly turns that can come, board pairs or spades.

[@losangelesnutritionist]

85ss pf bet to $150 then flops a lower flush seems like karma but that's just this game. Good hand review.

[@pot_kivach160]

2:47... _to drive the other 2 on the left out_ ??I would've wanted them in. To give me good pot odds for call. Driving 2 people out from OOP with T9s? How strategical is that?. If one of them call, you're nothing but troubles on flop, and so on.

[@thaThRONe]

I'm with Bart here. For that overbet I'm raising this flop. At this stage with all the overbetting I'm giving him A's or K's worse is probably AQ with the Q of spades.

[@thurnishaley24]

Absolutely BOMBING that flop to a 2x pot bet.

[@Jermo484]

I might just rip it in and cooler a clearly bad player playing aces, kings or AK as poorly as possible.

[@patrickjordan2233]

I'm at the flop? 2 thoughts (maybe this gets covered later in the video).. a call is so strong...I like a raise OP, Because it looks bluffy? And won't a bluff ever raise here? If V has a set of aces or Kings? They folding with 2 to come? - one can build an SPR that a set can't fold @ river? Is one sometimes value owning themselves? Sure..👍 But LT EV a raise is the play IMO.. Back to finish video

[@karlinchina]

V is never folding flop with QsQx, JsJx, QsTx, QsJx, JsTx, any set, any 2pair, any worse flush on the flop. Easiest raise on the flop ever, followed by a slightly stomach-churning but necessary jam on the turn where we lay him 3:1 and all worse hands call. Must be nice to be able to just give up on an extra $2000. I couldn't afford to play this game and do that.

[@qazzaqstan]

With the 6x open and not closing the action my first instinct would be to fold, though that was never discussed so maybe T9s is just too high up? The rest of the hand is just so weird, I don't know what I'm doing on the flop. Turn I think I talk myself into a jam assuming I flatted flop but kind of hate it. River I'm thankful villain gave up, because damn.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Yeah I’d seriously consider folding pre for that sizing. Odd the way the caller described it as “I wake up” with T9s. I’m not sure I’d describe that hand that way vs a 6x open!

[@dan22482]

Possibly but remember it’s a stream. Def can’t fold a hand like 109s vs a single open if you want the invite back….

[@noThankyou-g5c]

thats what I was thinking too. especially against a guy youve never played before. With maniacs i prefer to just wait till im pretty much nutted. like yeah it’s a +EV spot, but when you hit a 10high flush you have to start thinking about losing to flush over flush or whatever. my point is people only have so much money, usually with guys like this you can just wait until you have a very easy decision and take all their money. although i guess if theyre burning money this wuickly maybe u want to get in there asap

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@noThankyou-g5c I think against a maniac it’s more of a call, because you know if you make your T high flush they’ll just punt off their stack. But vs a tag reg I think it’s just a fold oop for me.

[@qazzaqstan]

@@dan22482 That is a good point @John Smith there I agree the worse my opponent is the more I want to try to play with them with hands that can become premium. I'm mainly just scared of 3B or S squeezing here since we probably can't call a raise to $700 and 3-betting feels like it just has to be not great. Granted the same reasons 3-betting feels bad makes a squeeze significantly less likely.

[@peteyivy7885]

Bart way smarter than me but from my take i’d be more inclined to build on flop but if i did call I’d prolly call then as well. I mean if a guy 6x pre then 2x on flop he really thinking at all? Would a guy like that really check back AK on river? Would he not bluff river with Q of spades?

[@reinierrautenberg4146]

wow. 6 at the end... lol (thx for all trhe effort sharing!))

[@kristermister4791]

First time inspired to comment b4 watching full hand. With villain's large raise pre, given what I see online micros, JJ and AK hands came to mind. With flop continuation it's gotta be AK right? (Or possibly king's?)

[@supersmoo7377]

If I was caller I wouldn’t even have called this hand in. He played it too embarrassingly. Against a player type like the one he described - hero MUST raise the flop or turn!! Hands like JJ with a spade or QQ with a spade have a lot of equity against him and are just some of the hands that will call raises but shut down on scare cards.

[@jamesbell1613]

I like the " woke up with" part. 😂

[@hardflip8]

I agree with Bart about the flop, calling looks so strong he's not gonna continue bluffing the turn so you might as well get in as much money on the flop as you can and hope he's got a set, 2 pair, single spade hands, etc. At first I disagree with Bart about jamming turn but I think I can get on board with it

[@krisdiaz2277]

U think u can get on board with it huh? 😂 Calm down there Bart jr. Lol

[@dan22482]

Villain’s flop play reminds me of the guys who will overbet a low flop with hands like JJ because they’re so afraid of getting drawn out on. He’s telling you he’s ready to get it in with this sizing IMO. Gotta check raise flop smallish and jam turn… On the turn I don’t understand the caller’s logic being afraid of AA/KK. We’re still never folding on a brick river so who cares if you happen to jam into that on the turn at some frequency when he’s also calling with many worse hands? Once you end up here on the turn by far the best play vs villain’s overall range is a check jam.

[@PatrickA1]

Raise jamming the flop. Smells like a combo draw or ak to me.

[@Kd4c]

I literally played with this type of player the other day at a one three game in Kansas City. There would be $50 in the pot and he would bet 125. Once I raised to 25 there was a caller and he raised the 225. There was $100 in the pot and he went all in for 1200.. he was to my left so I was never really in position to take advantage of his over bets. Plus I didn't have a lot of good hands. Funny thing is about 90% of the time he had the best hand When it went to showdown.

[@EricA-xd9fn]

😅😅😅Caller "wakes up" in the Big Blind with Ten-Nine suited. (2:04) 😅😅😅

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Yeah I found that an odd expression vs a 6x open. T9s is a playable hand but it’s hardly a premium.

[@anthonysomilleda7541]

All that betting for Villain to check back… he should’ve known the only thing calling the turn bet would be a flush. AA KK AK 3 beta preflop. A6 off folds preflop A6 suited bets river for value.

[@nuklearwinter2892]

I’m raising flop here to $1500-1800. Villains like this are NOT folding to a raise and will often just get it in on the flop with AK, KK AxQs. To me just calling looks stronger than check raising.

[@AT-bw4cm]

Exactly. There are overbet folds on the river, but I've never seen an overbet fold on the flop.

[@jacobgoldman5780]

I was thinking even to 2,000 would be good gives villian 1350 to win the 3000 still over 2-1 odds.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Yeah, I’m raising flop. If he has QJss so be it. I don’t see many other credible higher flushes given the preflop action… Although given he has 85ss maybe I’m wrong lol. But then he has loads of other ridiculous hands too so I’m still getting it in.

[@MrStevie57]

Wow,I was sure he something like A K,crazy man.

[@WillPage]

In retrospect, makes a lot of sense he has a weak flush with that flop bet.

[@Jacob-ud9fe]

Bart if you somehow forgot to actually go back and do the video on defining “out to lunch” well that would just be a disaster!

[@maltetheg]

Should villain have turned his hand into a bluff on the river? Would have gotten me to fold any flush here.

[@qlow5956]

That's Texas poker for ya. Are we sure V wasn't Nik Airball in disguise?

[@jacobbirkenfeld9261]

Bart laughs like he enjoys this runout. This is the S/M category of poker hand reviews.

[@7kbolding]

The flop bet is solver approved if it’s not a monotone board

[@reinierrautenberg4146]

He makes a very solid point. [Thake that "Bart"!, lol] {Remember, remember; don't drink anfd type}

[@reinierrautenberg4146]

10'30"

[@EfficientRVer]

Get lots of money in while you are pretty sure you're ahead, and you have a paying customer appearing willing. On a hand like this, forget about slow playing, forget about balancing your range. The only thing I'd balance is donk leading the flop sometimes, and varying the amount of the lead between a blocker hoping he'll raise, and pot-ish. AK, A6s wrong suit, sets, and QQ/JJ with a space need to pay to draw. And if you're check calling for deception (or worse yet, fear, when you're going to call off on most boards) do the deception with the size of a check raise instead. Randomize or choose, between around a minraise, a shove, and whatever size in between where villain with think that if he shoves, you might fold. Having said that, VILLAIN actually bet enough that hero's hand was pretty well protected mathematically, just not in a way that put villain to the test, nor in a way that let hero have any fold equity. The biggest downside of check calling is complete lack of fold equity, complete lack of taking advantage of the gap, needing a bigger hand to call than to bet.

[@qsdailydose8970]

Have to raise the flop to protect against a bigger spade or a paired board why are we slow playing this

[@bryanjohnson8162]

I play with people who are out to lunch daily and multiple people!!

[@drfunkinstein1]

I just rip on the flop. Villain could have AQ or KQ with the spade

[@leehjones]

It seems like Jason was looking for a promise that he wasn't drawing dead. This game rarely gives you promises. I'm too lazy to do the math, but we have to be good X% of the time to shove. I think we're good that often, so we shove. And *sometimes* we discover we have zero outs. That's why they call it gambling.

[@johnross4958]

Why didn't the villain bet at the end. Any bet and he would have won

[@torsloke]

We're saying "I wake up with" for T9s now? 🤣If you "woke up" with a monster hand like T9s and then hit just about the best flop you can hit for it, why did you keep hitting the snooze button through the rest of the hand?

[@qazzaqstan]

I mean tbh to hero villain's line on every street including pre-flop is so off the rails it is much easier to talk yourself into playing passively. I don't think it was correct to do so, but it is hard to really blame hero for not being sure what do.

[@Badbentham]

Yeah; - pre should be in general either folding, or indeed "waking up" with a 3-bet in that spot, with 2 players still to act . Post, he got kind of understandably bullied/ intimidated by villain's aggressive bet sizes.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@qazzaqstan if V bets a more normal size and then hero raises flop, I assume turn and river goes check check. So I don’t think hero’s wins much more either way.

[@qazzaqstan]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj that much is probably true (though I imagine from OOP you are still supposed to bet small on the turn after the check raise). Which is honestly just another reason villain should have played that in basically any other fashion. The question is given the villain's play could hero have found a more profitable line on average and I think the answer is yes. I just don't blame him for not making those adjustments because villain's play was so out there and while it is easy to see if someone is playing atypically it is much harder to figure out what they are doing wrong/why.

[@fransfermont6193]

It is hard to play this hand (on the turn) any worse then our hero did. My goodness, OMFG so bad. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Williy_Nilly]

I'm trying to find a scenario that makes villains bet on the flop rational.

[@guillermoalvarez9400]

He probably thinks there’s bad players that will pay any price to chase with any Qs, such as a hand like AQ or KQ.

[@dan22482]

He’s a fish. Fish don’t understand game theory or use logic to make their poker decisions. He’s petrified that another spade will roll off. That’s it.

[@beachliving3127]

My first thought when the villain bet was they he was holding flush and maybe a set followed by two pair. The size of the bet was such that he wanted the action to close now. He's happy with the amount to win in the pot after the flop. He doesn't want to see another card at all. The size of the bet shows how scared he is. On the turn, it's clear to me he doesn't have a full house. He would check and make a river bet if he had a full house. Continuing to bet means low flush. If you bet or raise his bet, the jig is up and he folds.

[@mr.anfieldfootball]

Hero won right??? Not villan? 🤔

[@pot_kivach160]

14:34... _So, he gotten the smaller flush than you!!_ Of course! If he had higher flush why would he wanted to kill a golden goose (by forcin his opponent out)!!

[@Jermo484]

I'd have assumed AK all day - way too big raise pre because he's bad and doesn't really want to play "a drawing hand" and a massive bet on the flop because A) he's annoyed about it being monotone and B) he doesn't want to lose to a random spade. I honestly didn't think it was possible to play a hand as badly as villain played that.

[@chazsmith20]

Villain could have min bet the river and taken it down LOL

[@nitemareman1]

That river is EVIL.

[@christophermanning6146]

Such a gross run out. You have to jam that turn for the exact reasons mentioned. Any A,K,6 or spade kills your action. If he's got it, he's got it.

[@MrTjthorso]

After listening to just this one hand, I'm willing to bet that hero shouldn't be playing in this game. Especially when he says "7 pros". And my god... I'm assuming he's not one of the 7.

[@ryandaley3351]

That's how to lose value, folks. There are times to play cautious or slow play and there are times to play your hard fast. I don't understand why anyone would check call the flop or turn.

[@herts9999]

Unfortunate that caller Mariano'd into a 4.6k pot win.

[@paulistastars]

He has less combos of higher made flushs then of top sets, I would just check jam on the flop

[@DescartesRenegade]

Missed out on SO much value. It was a jam on turn

[@user-jt2bf6ym1o]

Villain was out for lunch

[@jimforgrave6365]

Omg....I would of passed out...lol

[@kineahora8736]

Pretty ridiculous sizing on the flop, and I think too large preflop as well. 2x monotone? Ridiculous. I mean he can have QJ♠️♠️ but that’s about it. I just call a 2x bet and see what develops… because im just never bluff-raising here… Turn: board pairs, yuck. But here’s the thing-do people generally take enormous preflop sizes with AA or KK? Usually not. This seems like he has JJ or QQ with the spade, or AK. Which means you have a decision-check call vs check-shove (to deny equity). I figure im just not folding here, so might as well shove… River. 🤮🤮🤮. I don’t think you are ahead of anything now… check-fold.

[@JoshCosta]

Wow

[@thomasrichardson-ev1wp]

T c 0:57 0:57 h is boring to me. Don’t know why. Don’t even watch it with name players. Also don’t enjoy the Bike like I use to. Fir what ever reason Hustler has the Magic formula.

[@bookedroomer]

so hes 6x opening 85s huh

[@IAMJERM]

Definition of scared money? Was a painful to listen to hero try to justify it

[@rppoker4768]

Scared money don’t make money

[@jamesbell1613]

Woke up with 9 10 spades? 😂

[@lewisriddle5859]

There's alot of cards you don't want to see on the turn. Make him pay for the next card

[@hardflip8]

Does TCH Live still have Greg Potter? I kinda stopped watching after he stopped commentating

[@brettmasonmedia]

4.45k is such an annoying way to say that stack size. It’s 4450. Forty four fifty.

[@fevolenko3995]

Why can't villain have QsJs? Edit Just heard river. If he had that he 100% can have QsJs!

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

I suppose the only question is does QJss 2x overbet the flop? Hero will have very few hands that he can call with if V holds the Q and J of spades. On the other hand V is clearly a maniac so maybe he does?

[@fevolenko3995]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj If most believe he wouldn't have QJss then it's an ideal candidate for that bet right? Barr is snap calling literally because "he wouldn't do it with that hand" which ironically makes it the best hand to do it with..

[@jake_villanueva]

Imagine playing stakes this high (relatively) and not just getting your stack in while you think you’re good.

[@keitho6018]

Bart laughs/threw up in his own mouth on the river...gross town...yikes...😂

[@lakerfan1855]

Good job hero. You could’ve got his whole stack if you weren’t a scared nit.

[@maza080]

Yeah I'm sure you would be fist pumping to get it on a paired board with a medium flush after Villan bets massively twice. Especially after a 6x open on an AK board.

[@nathanlunsford7110]

@@maza080he’s talking bout the flop and turn were his chances to get the whole stack. Hero played so soft on those two streets, cost him a full double

[@LOLFLUSHDRAW]

suited boards are always some shit.

[@Apocalypse_Promotions]

Wow