The Horrors of Room 3109 | The Case of Killer Banker Rurik Jutting

In November 2014, two young women disappeared off the streets of Hong Kong. With a city so large, almost nobody took notice, but both had succumbed to the hands of Rurik Jutting - An affluent banker who had taken a very dark turn in life...
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00:00 Intro
01:12 Hong Kong's problems
04:25 Rurik Jutting's rise and fall
09:47 Two disappearances...
10:16 Sumarti Ningsih
13:07 Jesse Lorena
15:17 A harrowing discovery...
19:08 Recalling the crime
21:01 Legal Proceedings
21:58 Remembering Sumarti and Jesse
25:02 Outro
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[@maryreid3387]

Thank you so much for posting. Love your material!!

[@betsylaughlin4481]

Thank you so much for your hard work. The fact that you focus so much on the victims, and emphasize their humanity, dignity, and inherent value, is what sets you apart from so many other channels who have this content. You deserve the best 🙏

[@betsylaughlin4481]

Not to mention you truly have cases that so many others don’t have-you are far as away one of the best content creators for this genre.

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[@TorinoLacasera]

*I've been trying to get to you man!!!* It's an interesting high profile murder in my home town in Nigeria. A former Crown Prince has been charged and sentenced but his son(a coconspirator) is still at large. Maybe, just maybe your coverage can lead to him being brought in.

[@Juanaponymous]

Imagine going to order a coffee and the barista ignores your order and instead tells you about some gruesome murder for 25 minutes before announcing that the shop will be closing

[@pearlfonbuena6722]

That will definitely turn into a TRUE coffeehouse crime. Ba dum tss!

[@tituikabussaa]

Oh i love that situation. Better buying coffee from somewhere else before listening.

[@StevenMichaelCunningham]

.........that would be odd.

[@elzbthp67]

To be fair, at the intro he DOES say grab a coffee. So you could walk away with your drink if a scary murder story isn't your thing. Seriously though, what an awful man and a horrific end to two (that we know about) women who were trying to support their families back home.

[@pumkin610]

Can I get a- "In november of 2014, two young women disappeared off the streets of hong kong..."

[@AceOniFlyer]

I think the most messed up part about this is that the police only caught him because he reported himself. There is sadly a good chance the police weren’t even looking into the disappearances.

[@VioletJoy]

Well, unless they were reported, there's no way for police to know. I don't remember hearing that they had been reported, but maybe I missed it.

[@bulbasaurusthe7th841]

Then again, it is hard to look for people who are legally not even there, have no officially known home or work addressess, probably no known phone numbers, no known local family, etc. I'm not saying the police did everything great, but think about how you would look for someone if they were lost. Go to their home to check on them. Go to their workplace and check if they came in or not. Look for their families and friends. Any other place, like school or gyms/official clubs they regularly attended. Illegal residents are much harder to find. Like here people could find me in a million ways, I have a car insurance, a job, I regularly take my dog to her vet, etc. I'm easy to follow, because the things I do are regularly documented in a way police could search back and look up. But without any of those?

[@tessaducek5601]

Only if someone reports them missing. Sort of difficult to search for someone when one does not know they are missing.

[@halfsmile207]

Unless it was reported. They (police) can’t just barge in someones property. And about the smell on his apartment the home owners can report to the building management. About the missing person case since they are immigrant workers their consulate will handle it and then the police.

[@eirschu8973]

@@tessaducek5601 when no one knows they even existed in the first place I'd say...

[@thebunny2623]

Can't understand how his ex gf can be that happy and still like him after he killed 2 girls🤦

[@fxllenluc.2955]

He probably still has money.

[@MT-oi2ty]

Money !

[@eleanorchorao4875]

$$$

[@supahsmashbro]

This is Hong Kong, a former British colony. White man = status and bragging rights

[@bernelollab]

For real though 😢😮

[@stephenmoerlein8470]

Very sad story of class inequity. Not only did the two women suffer horribly, but their beloved families lost their financial lifelines due to the privileged narcissistic maniac. Thanks for remembering the victims. RIP Sumarti and Jesse.

[@sultan9givewey]

It's decade ago in 2013. In 2023 Indonesia already upper-middle income country

[@paperplane-db8qf]

Class inequity? They were on a tourist visa, they’re not supposed to be working. Honestly it’s people like that that make it so difficult for everyone else to travel or work in other countries.

[@navandozer]

I'm Indonesian and my mother did exactly what that first woman did, but in Singapore instead of Hong Kong. Left me as a baby to work somewhere that could support me and our extended family. Luckily, she succeeded and didn't encounter any events like what happened here.

[@happyamar1]

Well, most domestic helpers here are after opportunities to get better lives and end up with men they think they can change their lives. They sleep with them without thinking whether it is love or lust. Very unfortunate

[@pamelanadel3787]

Glad your mom didn’t suffer for her sacrifice. You must love her very much.

[@johanna5688]

@@happyamar1 SE Asian women are never choosy. They chase anything. They wouldn't have the intelligence to ask who is he, what does he do and get to know his character & track record. They are not caring. When they see any foreign man, they just see big bucks coming their way. They can blame themselves. The idiot in the end still says he's a good man. Then what's a bad man? They are likely to be illiterates & know nothing of the world. They are very cheap and disposable to someone with ill intentions. I've been to SE Asia & spent some time there. These women stick like glue to foreign men & it's so difficult to shake them off. They know nothing about shame or self respect. They don't care if the man's wife is next to him. These bold sex workers get what they deserve.

[@crayCray420]

@@hmsp7799 said your mom

[@Lannd84]

Semangat..

[@Miss_Wonderful1]

"Unfortunately, he contemplated to take his own life". I'd say: unfortunately, he didn't off himself. Those poor girls went through hell and died a horrific death only because they desperately needed money to send home to their families. I appreciate that Adrian talked about their background and showed huge respect for them.

[@siyuziii]

Couldn't agree more.

[@desensitizedanalyser5624]

That's messed up to think that

[@alsmith9853]

@@desensitizedanalyser5624 you'd rather that the poor victims were killed? Yeesh you're a compassionate one... NOT

[@siyuziii]

@@desensitizedanalyser5624 meaning more as the girls didnt deserve this. I agree with the hell theyve been through. Nobody should go through that

[@desensitizedanalyser5624]

@@alsmith9853 yeah, I don't know why my mind feels more pity for the killer then the victim?

[@kimberlyoldschool]

How am I just now discovering this channel? You do an incredible job of providing geographical and cultural context, and your compassion for the victims is evident.

[@MsGhostofficial]

Yeah. I like his into with the history of each place before diving in. Kind of reminds me a bit of Anthony Bourdain.

[@lemonpaperplanes]

i think someone like brooke makenna shows more empathy than this dude does but thats just me

[@sol-leks6122]

Can't having empathy be enough? He is extremely empathetic in my eyes. What a strange comparison to make..​@@lemonpaperplanes

[@lemonpaperplanes]

@@sol-leks6122 covering peoples literal recent deaths is something you've got to show extra care and respect towards, hope this helps!

[@bigdickballsack]

Shout out to all the ladies who travelled all the way to Hong Kong to work as a maid. Wishes all of their needs at home and in Hong Kong will be easily resolved. My family does not have to luxury to hire a maid when I was growing up, but we came across one maid in recent years who left her family and kids to work in Hong Kong as a caretaker of my 90+ years old grandma. Thankfull for her and really wish she could achieve whatever she wants.

[@tasanijanus7092]

Thank you for the respect you've shown to these victims and their circumstances.

[@poshdelux]

I’m super curious why only now these comments are trending. It’s a phenomenon of sort

[@zerrierslizer1]

@@poshdelux after KZbin's latest Algorithm changes, a lot of comments that would normally be overrun by either more liked comments or comments from Verified channels, be they verified legitemately or paid ones for an ego boost of incredibly small measure, are now surfacing to the top much easier, to get a wider POV from the viewers. it has also made it so that a lot of smaller channels videos are showing up in the side bar, so they can get more viewers etc.

[@darthphilfy]

@@IncredibleCommentary putting these stories out there can serve as a warning for people, that he does it in a respectful manner would be appreciated by the victims families I would think, as they obviously wouldn't want anyone else to suffer the same fate as their loved ones.

[@tanookiiarts3098]

@@IncredibleCommentary I usually like this guy's videos but putting the criminal transcript behind a paywall on his Patreon when its publically available information is the first thing he's done that outwardly leaps out at me as Scummy. legit had to pause and come to the comments to see if anyone else noticed / had a problem with it...

[@greendragon4058]

Yeah that is pretty nice there's a lot of other channels that do that respectfully too I love that

[@desdesdestinidestati7188]

Adrian, truly thank you for being a part of the true crime community. You give so much love and respect to the victims, and highlight their humanity at every moment. You take the time to learn how to pronounce things and you've never once blamed a victim for their choices or circumstances. I've been following since near the start, and I am so glad to have been along for the journey to see you and your channel and content grow.

[@BlaZe-pl4ym]

@@outsighter2852 Respect is given to the victims no matter how they look, what are you even on about bro?

[@hannaansari2921]

@Outsighter so you prefer having empathy for the perpetrator who brutally murdered innocent women instead of the victims just because the victims were pretty? would you still blame the victim and empathize with the killer if it happened to your friend or family member?

[@pauls3117]

So you all obviously get your jollys from shows about real murders but you're on here arguing about who respects the dead the most, what do you all visit Graves and send flowers🤦🏻‍♂️

[@BlaZe-pl4ym]

@@pauls3117 “so you all obviously get your jollys from shows about real murders” You have 2 other comments on this channel, and one of them is literally recommending another true crime based channel. All that’s being said is to respect the victims and to not judge them based on appearance, actually use your brain.

[@CAHSR2020]

@@hannaansari2921 Most true crime stories come from my country but statistically most murder victims here are men, most victims of violence here are men, and if we include prisons most rape victims here are men. So why do so many true crime hosts focus on female victims? I think it's because that's what the audience wants and that's what promotes a growing subscriber base.

[@mindrolling24]

I am very impressed with the dignity you afforded these young women and those like them who work so hard for a pitiful remuneration and receive such poor treatment. Very respectful presentation- I wish more people could handle true crime cases as sensitively as you.

[@Tomy_Yon]

I'm always a bit worried when the cat is not there sleeping on the counter. She's a bit of a comfort while listening to the horror stories.

[@spencer1280]

The production quality is getting better and better. Your stories have way more information and go way more in depth than many other channels.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

I appreciate that! Thank you!

[@tinydream]

@@Danny-rs2mk That’s what I like about his channel, too. He covers stories most have never heard of before and it helps their memory live on.

[@solidraven6986]

This is monsters isnt bad either

[@zombiejesus8302]

that and he tells it from the victims perspective and talks about how their family is doing… i dont think ive ever seen a murder mystery channel do that

[@ahighlyobnoxiousadult]

Mr Ballen, That Chapter and Coffeehouse Crime are all the GOAT channels of crime stories 🤟🏻

[@ploopy678]

Hey! I'm from Hong Kong and I just wanted to give a bit more context regarding domestic helpers. They actually live with their employers, so they're not usually the ones who would be living in cage homes. Aside from that, great video!

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Thanks for the information

[@cruisepaige]

I don’t think he said the domestics lived in cages.

[@erockstoenescu6171]

@@cruisepaige he insinuated that they did. The truth is tho that majority are housed by single males

[@forrestfey]

So they do not have a home of their own and no privacy. Probably not fixed work hours. Can probably not bring home a lover if they wanted, or have a party for their friends.

[@junehalog024]

I think the "cage home" details plays solely on sex workers within the region... I might be wrong though.

[@vegan.yasmin]

Absolutely horrific story my heart breaks for what samartie and Jessie were subjected to at the hands of a real life evil monster. I hope he suffers for the rest of his pathetic life.

[@luella_xo4914]

I live in Hong Kong and this case was so shocking! Honestly the crime rate here is relatively low so it was a big deal when this happened. A friend of mine was living in the same building where the murders took place, he said he often saw Rurik in the elevator and got a weird vibe from him. RIP to the victims :(

[@blastednacid]

But 4000 people go missing every year..yeah low crime rate🙄

[@spencer6736]

The fact that he was only caught after he himself called the police... makes me doubt how accurate that low crime rate is to the reality. And as mentioned by someone earlier, the disappearances are also not an indicator of "low crime rate"

[@tazcahoon4051]

Lol it’s only “low” because there’s so many people condensed into 1 small area lol 10 people go missing everyday in gong Kong

[@tazcahoon4051]

Town A has 200 people in it and has 5 homicides a year town B has 1,000 in it and have 10 homicides a year.. that means town A has a higher homicide rate than town B even though town B has more homicides a year lol basic simple math

[@luella_xo4914]

Wow so many upset crime rate experts here! Lmaoooo

[@alloralou4722]

My absolute favorite true crime channel. Thank you for featuring these women’s stories so they aren’t forgotten.

[@dinodouche]

You should check out that chapter

[@yvonneevie9301]

@@dinodouche Lets give it a gooooo

[@oldcollegecoed]

@@yvonneevie9301 I’ll “terd” that recommendation!

[@VadaVoo]

@@dinodouche Good 'ole Irish Mike giving it a goo talking about Manson Lamps and doing the Life Insurance dance. haha These 2 creators are my favs for short true crime. 😁 (2 different styles)

[@dinodouche]

@@VadaVoo they're both great

[@HGBorders]

Not enough people realize that sending your kid to fancy schools and paying for everything doesn’t equate to love. I did some more reading on this case and it appears Rurik had a total falling out with his mother after he chose a career path that she didn’t approve of. Some (narcissistic) parents see their children as extensions of themselves and live vicariously through them. Narcissism breeds narcissism.

[@z.z.1876]

No, it does not necessary mean being loved, but it certainly gives one opportunities. So, providing good education for your kids means a lot. With a degree from Cambridge, you can do just about anything in life... But I agree it's not all there is to being a parent.

[@mauricedavis2160]

Couldn't have articulated your comment any better...Rest In Paradise Ladies!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️

[@angelawilliams9912]

She still didn't deserve this.

[@mauricedavis2160]

@@angelawilliams9912 exactly, no one does indeed!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️

[@silverysnowfox]

Narcissism also doesn't mean psychopathy or becoming a murderer. At some point you gotta stop blaming the parents for the choices of an adult man who was clearly intelligent and knew what he was doing was wrong

[@rozitasheilarahim8016]

My heart goes out to the two girls. Actually sheds tears for them. May both of them rest in peace and bless their family with good fortunes always.

[@Hev.M]

I love how you conclude at the end of your videos and put everything in perspective. and lay out the reality of situations. You are truly compassionate and caring! And I love that you started putting a palette cleanser with the cats at the end

[@moonstruck562]

That last scene of the ex’s interview was… um, disturbing. Scary part is if he didn’t call the police on himself, there would’ve been many more victims. RIP to these two young beautiful ladies. The torture they experienced in their final days and hours is truly sickening.😢

[@Lucy-mf5gk]

she didnt seem too bright or phased by the girls deaths.

[@moonstruck562]

@@Lucy-mf5gk exactly. Total looney

[@HamEggsButteredToast]

I wonder if she was hoping to gain something financially from him by putting in a good word for him? But yeah, really disturbing... Saying anything good at all, but then even doing it so cheerfully. :/

[@kiiltochii1607]

Or maybe.... He was nice and normal with her? Ted Bundy was a "normal" human when he was not murdering women. His coworker at his volunteer place wrote a book about what it was like working with this man who turned out to be a sick murderer and how no one would have guessed what he had been doing

[@moonstruck562]

@@kiiltochii1607 even if he was nice and normal with her, it's still weird for her to be laughing and clapping her hands and acting animated knowing full well he tortured and murdered other women. You would have to be totally out of touch and unfazed to show that level of lack of respect for the victims... def something's missing "up there"

[@Userxyz-z2d]

In Los Angeles, at 17, I was actually doing the work legally that these women were doing. Working at a club where you danced with men who paid super high prices for drinks, it was your decision to leave with them. I lasted 1 night, I quit. It was owned by Vice Cops. I went to college & became a Technical Designer designing Americas electric grid. Fast money has too many risks. RIP Sumarti & Jessie.

[@ktcooki276]

Cool.😊

[@Jimmy-gs4nw]

Good for you 👍 designing electric grids must be good money but hard work

[@Walamonga1313]

Just like drug trade. Fast money, but very risky

[@khalilissami4877]

True that

[@kerryknight228]

I did it for a night. We called it taxi dancing. Super creepy guys, not my thing.

[@amsylita]

thank you for bringing this case to light. Having to grow up in HK all my life, it was and still is one of the safest cities in the world. when this news headlined back in 2014-15, it was just truly shocking. RIP to the poor ladies, truly hope their families can find peace.

[@tabb5818]

I would like to say that not all house workers are treated badly. As an expat kid we had Vilma, she was as close to me as my mum and was always just as much a part of the family as anyone else. She lived with us for 35 years and we bought her a nice plot of land in the Philippines for her retirement. I love and miss her so much ❤️ I couldn’t imagine anyone hurting her, rest in peace to Sumarti & Jesse x how sad

[@MsTemptation]

Oh how nice. But your family is probably the exception and not the rule. 🤓

[@dallasdobson8831]

@@MsTemptation What makes you say that? If people were getting treated that terribly I doubt all these young woman would make the choice to go and live this lifestyle right? I mean even if they were the self sacrificing types their mothers , fathers and siblings would stop them. It bothers me that some people jump to over the top conclusions without anything to back it up.

[@soleyen7539]

My what a sheltered existence you live....

[@hannaansari2921]

@Dallas Dobson if everyone had such caring and supportive families there wouldnt be so many sex workers or exploited workers,you can deny it all you want but exploitation happens alot and more so in the UAE

[@VioletJoy]

What do you mean by "house worker"? Is that someone who cleans the home?

[@valarmorghulis5575]

The ex girlfriend is disgusting. "his soul is very sweet.." like giiiirrrlll he tortured and butchered 2 women!

[@johanna5688]

She's just plain ignorant. She has no education and doesn't know any better. If you spent any time in SE Asia, you'd realise what a moral void it is. I was told long ago to not bother going to SE Asia if you're a woman bcz it's just a sex tourists' place. How right he was.

[@klarawinterain6101]

Yeah, it's always weird when a woman doesn't care or at least think "It could've been me." Implies that she doesn't even see herself as a victim type and still acting like they're best buddies... In bad taste.

[@AngieDeAguirre]

@SOUL SEEKER I was playing "spot the incels on the comments". Apparently, I won!

[@thebunny2623]

Yess! Just same as my ex best friend,she didn't believe me that her bf was teased me just because he never teased her and acted good!

[@JustSendMeLocation]

@@AngieDeAguirrewe spotted the simp

[@trippingthewasteland]

One thing I really appreciate about your videos is the discussion of the local culture the crime took place in. That context is helpful for understanding the cases, but it also just broadens our understanding of the human condition.

[@Jeyferret]

Thankyou for ending the video with your kitty cat. It was such a sad story and it was an uplifting way to put my heart back into place. Great work again!!

[@anderson9779]

Hi Adrian, I'm a big fan of yours that is from Hong Kong. Thank you for covering a case from my homeland. I recommend you to check out the Yoga ball murders , which is another infamous murder case that occurred over here. I am sure that you and the audience will find it interesting.

[@Julia-uh4li]

Can you also email your request as he suggested at the end of his video. I've not heard of it but by what you said, it sounds interesting.

[@alondragomez3456]

What she said! It sounds super cool I did look it up but he would definitely cover the case amazingly

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

Hello I hope you are keeping well

[@dwwicked4706]

@@alondragomez3456 u think a murder is super cool? Wth

[@alondragomez3456]

@@dwwicked4706 omg you think commenting “I think my comment is funny when it’s actually not” comments Is cool?! Wth

[@fredajordan5704]

People living in cages, how horrific and what a disgrace to a human life.... Jutting knew what he was doing, he got the appropriate sentence now....Poor young Ladies, how heartbreaking that any woman has to do this kind f work in order to survive and support their family at home, simply unimaginable. Very sad case. thank you Adrian for another exciting video.

[@tessaducek5601]

That is what happens in extremely over populated areas. Add to that low accommodation availability and it turns into cubicals and cages. People just can't quit over populating .

[@nhmooytis7058]

It’s what the elites want for all of us. Wake up.

[@userr7382]

@@tessaducek5601 it’s not overpopulation. It’s wealth hoarding and exploitation.

[@userr7382]

@@tessaducek5601 notice how many people are actually migrating there from impoverished rural areas with low populations to try to get a piece of the hoarded wealth and resources?

[@tessaducek5601]

@@userr7382 Yes. Its sad. They want to help their families and are treated like this. I understand trying to make a living and sending funds to family. Its disturbing how others exploit these people. They are human beings . How can people be so barbaric? Its heartbreaking.

[@blessinggoodthings3124]

Your soothing voice is one of the reason I keep coming back to watching your uploads. Thank you so much for your hard.

[@Lisaslashshakrdu]

I love the endings of your videos. His sweet statements about the victims are heartwarming.

[@Terri_MacKay]

Those poor women. As if being held against their will and killed wasn't horrific enough, to then have their bodies treated as if they were nothing but garbage is just heartbreaking. Another fantastic, but soul crushing, video. I love it when you show a little clip at the end with Nero...I think we really need that as a little reminder that there are beautiful things in the world, especially after the ugly things we've just listened to.

[@johanna5688]

That's how it goes for prostitutes. It's their choice. It goes with the territory. Who cares!

[@Terri_MacKay]

@@johanna5688 Wow! It's always nice to find caring, compassionate people in the comment section.

[@Tyranniod]

@@johanna5688 They're still people. If you can disregard someone's humanity it won't be long before you're on this channel.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Horribly tortured to death. Pliers, blowtorch, sandpaper??? I hope he's eating crap in a now Chinese prison.

[@AsAWhiteManMarriedToALatina]

The ending was the most disturbing. That woman is disgusting

[@soraiafreitas5444]

I'm really glad you are finally covering a Hong Kong case! I live in Hong Kong for about almost 3 years and this is still one of the safest countries fro me. Although, I want to point out that the domestic helpers do not just work for a family and they leave afterwards. The helpers actually live with the family most of the times and share room with the kids, they are provided very less privacy and their working hours never end. They have only got one day off per week, no holidays whatsoever unless the family is nice enough to provide them that.

[@johanna5688]

Well that is Asia! No workers rights. Same in Saudi Arabia & the Middle East. It's all no man's land there. Very wild.

[@AuditClerk]

Oh dear ... as someone who is a Hongkonger through & through, I will say that if Domestic Helpers are not getting any holidays, that is absolutely against the law. I think what's important is that they know their rights, because the laws are in place - and enforced! Punishments can also be quite harsh. Unfortunately, it is human nature that people take advantage ... which is why it is important to know your employment rights.

[@romeowandrainbow1040]

No wonder some turn to selling their bodies. This would be soul destroying

[@dione2610]

Sounds the same as we have it in Colombia, difference is middle class house and higher are made with an extra room with bathroom attached around the kitchen or laundry area and it’s made specifically for them. Also they leave Saturdays mid day and have sundays off, this is most professions there tho.

[@uuh4yj43]

@@AuditClerk hk labour laws are not very good at protecting workers, no max weekly hour-load and only one required day off per 7 days. annual paid leave is also a very rare benefit not many get. i think while there might be laws in place , these people probably work in informal conditions, a lot of them probably don't have work visas and just renew their tourists visa by taking the ferry to macau or mainland china, no written co tract and have little knowledge of whatever protection they might be entitled to. its very common not only in hk for immigrant workers to be treated like this and work illegally.

[@lahelalala]

I am touched by your end note on this video. The stark comparison between Rurik and his victims does put this crime in a much harsher and heartbreaking perspective. I’m from the Philippines and many of my countrymen sacrifice so much when they go overseas for work. This case hit home. On a side note, I believe it’s the Philippines which is known as the Pearl of the Orient Seas and not Hong Kong.

[@AuditClerk]

Oddly, it's several places that have this moniker ... Manila & Hong Kong being two!

[@Wendy.WhiteRabbit]

I have only recently started watching your channel, and really enjoy the varied stories you tell. I appreciate your non judgmental and empathic style, which clearly reflects the person you are. Thank you for highlighting that these ladies had way more to their lives and are not in a minority in HK working so hard to support their families back home. May they rest in peace.

[@Dearest_orugitas]

I love so much that you spoke in detail about each victim. Hurts my heart for them and the loved ones left behind

[@joannewilson1483]

Good education lots of cash odd bod no real friends he had choices not to hurt others

[@yyyyaaaannnn]

as someone living in hong kong, thank you for covering a case here, adrian!

[@CanMav]

As someone who used to live in J Residence, that name still gives me creepy vibes

[@kronagan]

@@CanMav I regularly went over with a group of expat colleagues to drink at J Residence where one of them lived during that time too. We stopped going there as soon as this case was on the news. It's certainly disturbing.

[@CanMav]

@@kronagan I moved out the month before the murders occurred. I recall running into that guy a few times in the lobby and he always seemed off

[@VioletJoy]

@@CanMav Seriously? Wow.

[@lh2988]

@@CanMav wow 😯

[@Jax-jx5uu]

thank you for portraying the woman in such a compassionate and humanizing way. it's really easy for many to judge when we've never had the huge responsibility of caring for an entire family and coming from nothing. they just wanted to do and be better. may they rest in peace and i hope their families are ok.

[@ActiveAussie2024]

They were greedy. They were prostitutes. Heard of accountability and responsibility before?

[@i.p.956]

It seems like he has always had this kind of personality, and drugs, alcohol and money fueled his psychopathy. If he was described as "odd" from his school, he clearly had something wrong with him. His ex is also weird, she laughs and jokes about her life with this man who has just killed 2 women!

[@Emzotic]

Wow, thank you for covering this story. I grew up right by here, so its a story that has always chilled and fascinated me.

[@johanna5688]

If you like chilling crime, serial killer stories, then watch on KZbin about the backpacker murderer Ivan Milat. He died in jail but never confessed to just how many holiday makers he so brutally killed. He even attacked men, breaking their spines, paralysing them, then raping them before burying them in Belangelo Forest, NSW, where many were never found. He was a madman.

[@grec.]

The scripts from your videos are so impecable. How you transition from blocks of information so seamlessly is one of the things I most enjoy. The first thing is your calming voice that is not overly dramatic and knows where to build tension. Keep up the great work!

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

I noticed that he said that the area of Hong Kong is some distance "cubed".

[@itsruckaswife7036]

I love this channel. The stories you come up with are ones I've never heard of Thank you xxx

[@retheply8092]

I'm from Hong Kong and am well aware about how terribly abused some domestic helpers are. My family employs a lady as well - she lives in our house like a lot of other domestic workers, but we do our absolute best to pay and treat her well. But I've heard and watched so many horror stories of them being screamed at, stuff being thrown at them, having to live in a closet sized room the literal size of their bed... I walked into the kitchen one night when I was sleeping over at a friend's house and the door of what I thought was the pantry slid open and their domestic helper stepped out. I was shocked - it was a literal pantry closet. There needs to be better regulations for the treatment of these women, but unfortunately the police here don't care, and because a lot of these women come in illegally they're unable to even keep track. I hope things get better for them, thank you Adrian for taking time to comment on this issue.

[@robynsriot]

you handle these heart breaking cases with so much respect and care for the victims. you are a gift to this community. my heart broke multiple times over listening to this case

[@carmenkami1735]

I really love that you cover so many international cases! On your channel I learn about so many new cases. I feel so sorry for the women, since they only sought out a better life... may they rest in peace.

[@siyuziii]

Very true, it's very educational but may the young girls rest in peace

[@johanna5688]

Why feel sorry for them. They were most likely prostitutes back home before travelling to HK. Once they're on that slide, they continue being prostitutes for life. They must see it as easy money, and they obviously love the sex too much. Once they're where's, they've turned a corner. There's no going back for them.

[@siyuziii]

@@johanna5688 Most of the people dont know what they’re taking themselves into. They still do not deserve to die. You’re sick to think so if you do

[@annahorvath2659]

Your compassion ,empathy and understanding towards the victims takes my breathe away.Thank you.

[@jasminebowden3285]

Your channel is still my favourite, you have come so far! So glad your hard work had paid off :D

[@Looloowa74]

This is the problem when parents only focus on education. Kind and decent people are more important than spiritually bankrupt people.

[@ActiveAussie2024]

Living in a place where people worship money and "status" does not help.

[@mari_000]

Its also a problem that women step so low to Resort to prostituted themselves. This is a dangerous and dirty job without honour, so why would a women do something so dangerous?

[@marywharton5391]

Everything about this video - the research you clearly put in, the sensitivity, the humanizing and compassion for the victims - is what sets this channel apart. Thank you for touching on the clear power and personal differences between the murderer and his victims. That part about brought me to tears.

[@monicagoethe8164]

Thank you for never glorifying killers, and always being respectful while highlighting the victims. I'm a long time fan, and always appreciate the respect shown to those lost too soon.

[@meganheric7610]

great job Adrian! I really enjoy your channel and cases! thank you very much for all your hard work to bring us great content.

[@nickotten1358]

You do a great job! Congrats on the growth of the channel!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!!

[@missnanunana01]

Not only are your videos always very respectful towards the victims but the research is well done and thus, each video is very educational

[@nigamosglasgow2162]

Awesome work Adrian! Love the background info with history of the location of crime. 5 Stars

[@Sheerkat7]

New subscriber. I appreciate your presentation. You're not silly, overly dramatic or boring. This is a case I've never heard of, for a change. Looking forward to more.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Welcome aboard! And thank you for being here!

[@Animalfarm6cats]

Thank you, for the respect, you gave to these women. How sad their murders are. Your voice is so calm, and soothing. It's a pleasure, after a stressful day at work.

[@kenymus]

There’s something particularly chilling about today’s criminals. They KNOW the ubiquitous nature of their data footprints, CCTV etc. But their compulsion is so overpowering that, it doesn’t ultimately matter if they know there’s a good chance they’ll get caught.

[@VioletJoy]

Clearly he knew there was CCTV, yet he just waltzed right in front of it carrying the suitcase and tools. 😳 So strange.

[@LadyAngela678]

Men cant fight their sexual urges.

[@aaronhoy3410]

What? There may be a nearly ubiquitous amount of ways that people's actions can be retrospectively found out with certainty, but ever notice that none of these things actually tend to lead to them being caught in like 80%-90% of cases? Plus, these are all biased obviously by covering cases where someone was caught. There are more, proportionally speaking, of cases that are not ever solved, nor the person responsible caught. I mean even assuming for a moment that all the people convicted of a homicide are in fact the actual person who did it [which we know with complete certainty is not true, but let's assume it is,] that still means there is a roughly 50/50 chance of getting away with it. Which only increases [by exactly how much I wouldn't be able to speculate on,] once you narrow it down solely to those who commit them with the intention of getting away with it... i.e. excluding all the people who turn themselves in for it in whatever particular way, people who dispose of bodies instead of keeping them around in the place they are staying in, etc... And of course all that has a caveat of restricting what is included in "homicide" numbers because in any given there ranges between [at least officially,] around 1/4 of these intentional taking of life to many multiples of this type of intentional taking of life by things that people do not criticize [unless the people involved are not liked by the particular person in question,] that are deemed "conflicts" by governments themselves against external people. They are also "homicides," but they are the type people tend to support... or at least large majorities of people do.

[@CleopatrasNemesis]

Love this narrator - clear, paced, enunciated - the more videos I watch the more I realise not everyone can tell a story! Adrian - you’re good! ❤👊🏼

[@debramenta7207]

Since I've traveled and lived in locations you've mentioned, I am that much more intrigued. So very sad for these 2 beautiful women. I really appreciate that you cover cases all over the world. Your videos are exceptional!!!

[@rizkiramadhan9266]

As an Indonesian, thank you for covering this, and it's surprising how you're right when guessing we've never heard of this

[@patriciaobrien5977]

Domestic workers often tolerate horrendous conditions! It’s no wonder that the lure of a more lucrative way of getting by is attractive. These poor women. And this story demonstrates that education, career, money….well, they don’t always indicate a stellar character. Thanks as always Adrian, for your clarity and compassion while telling this tragic tale.

[@agakaczmarska7272]

Superb episode yet again. Loved your channel for a long time now.

[@Angie-Magi-ATIN-Army]

What I like about you is you put an effort of the story line and every details. You're a great story teller.

[@danielx555]

When I lived in South Korea around 2001, there was a really famous case of two North American young women who lived in Korea and taught English. They checked into a hotel, and one of them brutally slaughtered the other one with their bare hands. Later, they said they were drunk out of their mind, which is consistent with the drinking culture of South Korea that I experienced. I've never seen a podcast or KZbinr talk about this.

[@doopclann3428]

That's be interesting

[@susufray3601]

@@doopclann3428 do you have a name ?

[@wendymagnuson6069]

My favorite part of the week. A new case by Coffeehouse Crime❤️

[@ScaryStoriesAt2AM]

Hope you’re doing well and having a wonderful start to the week ☺️

[@swizzler8053]

Get some coffee and enjoy bro.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Have a good Monday!

[@tanyahale1186]

Your channel is so well done. So much better than the rest. Thank you.

[@fashiongirl654]

i love the coffee outro lines! Thank you for covering more stories in other parts of the world.

[@bronminett4042]

I think it’s a misconception that you have loving parents because they work hard to send you to a good school. My best friend comes from a family like this and it was cold and lonely and unloving. People don’t turn out like this by accident. I assume he had his own struggles too like the rest of us. Which in no way excuses his behaviour. Was just a side note. Rest in paradise angels your work here is done. You did so well. 💜

[@MsGhostofficial]

Yeah about good families. I am absolutely baffled as to what made him take such a violent and psychotic turn. I guess maybe the drugs and alcohol pushed him to the brink of caring for anyone but himself. Sad : (

[@13redlion13]

to be honest looking at his behaviour, i think he was at a point where he didn't even care about himself anymore

[@gavriilaivanova6395]

I love how you present current cases. Tired of replaying dahmer ! Thank you

[@DazePhase]

Your scrips and videos are very well done. Great story telling. Keep it up man.

[@beautifulblackbeauty8641]

Great stories, top notch research, fantastic scripts, and YOU! LOVE YA, ADRIAN!!

[@fettacheeny4382]

i know a jillion people have already said it but THANK YOU for being so respectful of the victims and representing underrepresented individuals❤️

[@roxymcdonald6518]

I love the work you do; more importantly, I really admire the empathy you show the victims in each and every case. Sex workers are frequently blamed for their own demise but you understand their desperation to make money and support their families. It’s your humanity which shines through. 😊

[@VioletJoy]

Maybe there in a poor country, but that's not the case everywhere.

[@CAHSR2020]

Wait, she was a sex worker? I thought he said she was a talented Indonesian disk jockey making big waves in Hong Kong's after hours scene. Guess that was just the cover story.

[@roxymcdonald6518]

@@VioletJoy: I am confused by your reply.

[@VioletJoy]

@@roxymcdonald6518 Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I meant was that while some sex workers in poor areas like Hong Kong might choose that line of work in order to support their families, that's not necessarily the case across the board. There is no need to turn to that kind of work here in the US, for example. While some are forced into it, many are not, and do not get into it for such honorable reasons.

[@xyw8383]

Or maybe before being able to support a family, don’t start a family…

[@staceyrigby3064]

The love and respect you give the victim is so great, the last part of this was touching as you backed them up , you’re truly awesome

[@ryansabre]

The intro you put together of this chap painted a very very good picture and hooked me early on -- a skill you have developed and clearly have become great at! Been watching you for a year now or so. Cheers from Greece. ~ Ryan (NY native)

[@plum810]

Adrian you have no idea how much your uploads help me get through these days, you're just the perfect distraction from everything going on in my life right now

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

I'm glad I can help you! Thank you for the kind words, and I'm sure you'll find your way to sunnier days!

[@IntrepidFraidyCat]

Loved the funny cat! It helps to end on a lighter note after such a tragic murder case. 😻

[@rachelseventeen2235]

Awesome video, but absolutely NO words on what happened, a tragedy! 😢💔

[@ScarletWitch597]

Adrian, you have been with me all throughout pregnancy and post-pregnancy! Thank you for helping me get through those sleepless nights after my baby was born!

[@clivejd]

This not the channel you should be watching during a pregnancy.

[@siyuziii]

@@clivejd TRUE LOL

[@jxn1056]

Congratulations! ❤🎉

[@fizzao1342]

Happy Monday to us all with the arrival of a new Coffeehouse Crime video. Thank you, Adrian!

[@belisare4397]

Grabbing my first morning coffee (just woke up)and listening to today's story☕😊 Happy new year to all! And thanks for your channel!

[@anribotes374]

Hi Adrian. Greetings from South Africa. Your work is exemplary - I am hooked! You have covered some serious cases in South Africa with detail and grace. I think there is maybe one other case you could perhaps also investigate. It entails the case of Oscar Pistorius, the internationally known paralympic athlete, who ended the life of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp on the night of Valentine's Day 2013. His court case was nationally televised, but there are still debates among locals whether the act of ending Reeva's life was intentional, or a sincere mistake. There is a lot about the incident that raises questions. I would love to see your analysis of the case, and the inputs from your subscribers. Thanks for the contribution you make to our lives. Take care of yourself.

[@sterlinghawk_g20]

I like the background when he talks and we can see him. The coffee, and the cat on the counter plus the bonus is listening to him

[@debbieprokop9401]

Thank you for bringing back the coffeehouse kitty Adrian, it helps this Grams to feel, safer, while listening to these human experiences that are so frightening! But I listen while my own handsome kitty sits on my lap! But he likes tea : )

[@beverlywilkinson5773]

He really was narcissistic. With all he had, he still was not happy and I believe he took his unhappiness with his life out on those two innocent ladies who did not deserve to die like that, but at least there family and friends got to lay them to rest. May their souls rest in eternal peace 🙏 I really enjoy how you take us all around the world with so many cases that I would not otherwise have the opportunity to learn about, thanks for the amazing job you do by giving the voiceless a voice, keep up the awesome work.

[@cooljerk922]

you are by far the most intelligent and best true crime content creator I have come across. I can’t express to you enough how refreshing it is to find someone who tells these stories with nuance and provides a logical materialist context. the last video of yours I watched, you took the time to speak on systemic failures regarding mental health, and this time you respectfully spoke on the issues of class. you’re the first I’ve come across that doesn’t mispronounce every other word or make the most idiotic surface level “observations”/come up with “theories” that genuinely sound like something a child would say (looking at you, Stephanie Harlow and your Ralph Wiggum sidekick lol). anyway, thank you

[@wmelliott3802]

This is swiftly becoming one of my favourite crime channels. Well done Lad 👍

[@micheleboris2851]

Thank you for your hard work to honor the victims.

[@kellyondrasek2731]

That was very interesting! Also your hair looks great Adrian! ❤️ 😊

[@MsFunnyfeet]

Thank you for not downgrading the women when you spoke of them. So many times, when sex workers are beaten, violated, and/or murdered, people who are reporting about them speak of them in a judgmental harsh way almost as if they deserved it because of being sex workers. You did them justice in the way you reported about them and what happened. I think this is one of the many things that sets you and your channel apart from others here on you tube. 💖

[@mari_000]

Sorry i am a women myself but when a women gos into this kind of nasty and dangerous work just because she wants more money and is materialistic, she should know that everything can happen to her but she willingly agreed to be degraded herself and played with.

[@dakg8034]

Adrian my lad, you were created for this. Your narration is as good as any narration can get. It's absolutely flawless; and, I love watching your shoulder movements as you speak. Splendid!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you so much!!

[@dakg8034]

@@CoffeehouseCrime Interestingly, I discovered your channel only about two weeks ago, and since then I have been binge watching past episodes - watched about 25 so far. I am totally and hopelessly addicted. Lol.

[@trebor9091]

Hi Adrian perhaps you can look at the case of Ani Ashekian another hk case that to this day remains unsolved. There’s very few videos on it

[@chillwave8809]

As a regular customer thanks for the coffee and the news Adrian ❤

[@whoever_81]

You are truly the best Adrian. That was a very sad story.

[@robotaholic]

Woah! The title sucked me in! Thank you for telling this story.

[@liza8423]

Years ago I read this story in our local media but somehow the story just ended with no completion till today I was surprised you were able to get the story here! Thank you so much...much appreciated 😃

[@karenjordan9607]

I had read about this story also in a crime magazine but he put in more detail

[@liza8423]

@@karenjordan9607 Yes! much detail than in the media I read years ago but I think he couldn't tell all in details...it had to be censored! Don't know what happened to the banker though if he was in Hong Kong jail or otherwise...

[@KaReN019]

Hope you are doing ok Adrian. Thanks for sharing another full on story, I always look forward to hearing them each week.

[@crystalvisions6558]

You have the most cozy background ever!🔥🔥🍁

[@andreambrownridge7642]

Thanks! Great compassion and empathy as always. May these lovely ladies rest in glory.

[@avaalora223]

I came across this channel one day, have been watching it since and i love how you put the stories together and it isn't all over the place. Im in Barbados and i appreciate the good morning, good afternoon or good evening 😊❤