Comparing Airbrush Brands - HC 383

[@sixtwentysix]

Nothing in life is more reliable than Vince’s “hello everybody” at the the start of his videos

[@ItsDaCMD]

Congratulations to 100K, Vince! Started from the bottom, now we're here. Can't wait to see the silver plate somewhere in your workspace. So, so deserved, you have helped tremendously to transform many people's painting skills over the years, including mine. Thank you and on to 200...

[@ricardoflummiremus]

Yes Sir!! Well earned. For me THE Paint Sensei on KZbin with 700+ videos covering every topic you can imagine. Nice, humble and logical - in that regard not everybody’s flavor, but oh so more golden for people like me 🙏🏼🐝💨 Thank you Vince for being you🙌🏼🌞

[@harbl99]

Vince is going to take one look at the colour on that 100K button and think "Eh, I could do better in my sleep."

[@bitflipped]

I'm not sure if you already cover this in another video, but I'd be interested to hear about how you decide whether to use your airbrush or a conventional brush for a particular task. Specifically when it comes to the extra fine detail work, as you mentioned you wouldn't do the base coating with your airbrush on things like belts and bracers. My reason for asking is mainly because I'm wondering if I would see a measurable benefit of "upgrading" from the Iwata HP-CS to the H&S in future, considering both are great airbrushes.

[@theboldbear1973]

I've wondered this myself. Got an eclipse a few years ago, but found the trigger to be either on or off.

[@VinceVenturella]

I don't think I've ever really covered it, but that is an EXCELLENT video idea, added to the list for sure.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

I would use the old one for priming and the finer for details especially because a primer can be more tricky than normal paint.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

@@theboldbear1973I use that one as my work horse. If I’m just priming or basing and even some detail work but not to fine I use HP-CS. For finest detail or if I am going for an effect I need to be very precise with I use my Infinity CR+ Giraldez. There is a clear and significant difference in control from the moment you first pick it up. I could use it for everything and it is a joy to use, but my Iwata does almost everything just as well it just doesn’t offer the precise control and dials the infinity does. But I end up using a brush very often as I prefer my works to not look like I airbrushed them at all.

[@joarangoe]

I have used the Master for about 4 years and recently bought the Kiev, absolutely love both. G23 is perfect for priming and if you're patient you can do fine detail work too, the kiev is just sooo smooth and nice to use. If you're starting don't hesitate to get the master, it will do 98% of what the other airbrushes can do for 10 times less money.

[@mcampbell1124]

As an owner of two Harder & Steenbeck airbrushes, I will say their customer support is amazing. Communicating via email is easy and responsive. I purchased an Infinity as my first "high end" airbrush and enjoyed it so much I ordered a custom Infinity from the factory with my name engraved. Each Infinity is set up with a different needle size for quick selection. Harder and Steenbeck products carry a higher price, their precision and support merit the premium.

[@Wijkert]

2:08 for me personally not because of the risk of damaging the needle, but to prevent dragging paint residue trough the body of the airbrush.

[@michakonwicki6781]

I agree!

[@peteraitken253]

I have over 50 airbrushes. Many Iwatas, H&S Infinity CR Plus, Silverline and Ultra. Sparmax, Tamiya, numerous Badger and Paasche models, Olympos, Holbien and many others. Best quality and performance for your money is Creos Procon Boy PS289 or PS270. Atomise the paint great. Very smooth trigger control. Easily out perform much dearer brushes. Reasonable purchase price and reasonable priced spares. Approx $120 from Spraygunner. Lots of reviews on You Tube.

[@TheAndrian463]

Yeah, the Procon series is a really underrated product. I own the PS289 and it's a real cracker for the price. Just wish they made a 0.5mm version for the platinum series.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

Do you also have the creos ps771? Many say that it is a competitor to the takumi custom micron. I just wanted to ask for your oppinion if you have one.

[@terrydactyl2077]

I’m still fairly new to airbrushing (really new to mini painting too). I’ve owned a Patriot 105 for nearly a year now and I’m looking to purchase myself a nice detailing airbrush for Xmas. One that I can do fine details and layering with. What would you say would be a good model that isn’t overly complicated in terms of breaking it down. Maybe they all are fairly similar in that way not exactly sure.

[@peteraitken253]

@Gamma_Draconis Yes . I have the PS770..Same as 771. The 771 superceded the 770. The 770 is polished . The 771 has a chrome finish.. I have seen a you tube comparison with the Custom Micron. They rate them as very similar. I rarely use my 770. As I don't do a lot of superfine detail. The PS270 is a great detail brush at half the price. I think the 771 is unnecessary unless you are doing a lot of superfine detail.

[@peteraitken253]

@terrydactyl2077 I would highly recommend the Creos PS270 if you want great detail. Fantastic airbrush. If you are in the US then Spraygunner is a great place to buy from. Most airbrushes are very similar to dismantle and reassemble.

[@Winterydee]

Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers Vince! Your "Hobby Cheating" playlist/series is truly an amazing resource for anyone in the miniatures/modeling hobby scene. I know that I have used it more times than I can count for things which I'm working on. I also know that I have lost count on how many people I've told/recommend this playlist if they ever have an idea which they would like to try or want to achieve with their modeling, basing or painting. This achievement you have reached is so well deserved! Thank you again for this series!

[@VinceVenturella]

Always happy to help!

[@LylaMev]

Thanks so much, Vince! You helped me decide on upgrading to the Infinity from the hp-cs. Much appreciated!

[@VinceVenturella]

Wonderful! Hope you're doing well Lyla and hope to see you again at Adepticon. :)

[@LylaMev]

@@VinceVenturella I am doing great, and I look forward to seeing you at adepticon as well!

[@karpnado5447]

Your Hobby Cheating Tutorials are amazing, I have learned so much from them. Thank you and congratulations to 100K!

[@leonardodosvinci4130]

100K, Gratz Vince, its about time. A lighthouse in a storm this channel, long may it continue.

[@benweinberg3819]

Congrats on 100k! In my relatively recent airbrush experience, I started with the Master G22 which was a great way to learn the tool, get a decent and quiet compressor included for

[@benweinberg3819]

@Vince Venturella this guy doesn't touch his paper towel after putting paint on his brush

[@monnubains6184]

Congrats on 100k Vince! I have the Kyiv and a cheap airbrush. The Kyiv is such a joy to paint with. One big difference I found that helps with control is that the Kyiv allows you to control the level of air and paint with its dual action trigger; whereas, the the cheaper airbrushes only go full blast on air.

[@jordivermeulen2519]

This is my only complaint about my HP-CS: it's dual action, but the vertical travel on the trigger is about 1mm. I find it pretty much impossible to control the amount of airflow other than just turning down the pressure on my compressor.

[@bobbou]

Another thing that might be worth mentioning is that the cheaper ones usually uses rubber gaskets which means that alcohol based paint will eat away at them and make them break. Not a huge issue as they’re replaceable but it’s worth to know for beginners! Awesome video as always and congrats on the 100k!

[@AdamFaeth]

That’s very true! I ruined my cheap Master’s airbrush trying to spray enamel scale model paint the first time I used it. At the time, I couldn’t find replacement seals for less than the price of the airbrush.

[@jennaanderson3479]

I was lucky to have a friend lend me an airbrush (a Paasche) and all the gear to get me started. Starting on a cheap airbrush was probably good for learning but holy cow, I upgraded to a H&S Infinity CR and it feels and works so much better. Everything is faster and easier and both looks and feels better. The precision is crazy good and I was so happy to hear the glowing review of it. Expensive but 100% worth it.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

Look for a Iwata takumi custom micron, this is expensive but worth it if you are a hardcore brusher.

[@Mikey__R]

Larry is my spirit animal. I started with the Eclipse, my second airbrush is the smaller Hi-Line with the finer needle and schnozzle. Between them, they get everything done. It made sense to stay within the Iwata range as many of their parts can be used on either airbrush.

[@pipfpv7489]

I picked the Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2024 for my first airbrush and i like it so much i'm really looking forward to priming and basecoating. Your videos helped me a lot with understanding the airbrush and thinning paints in particular. Thank you Vince.

[@noid5058]

Love your videos Vince. You truly mastered the art. That being said, OH MY GOD! Clean your airbrushes! lol Keep them coming.

[@jacenchrisbaker]

I've used a Patriot 105 as my workhorse for a 4 or 5 years, and have been slowly opening up to adding a new brush to do finer work. Sadly, Badger has seemed to develop a reputation about up-and-down QC since 2020 (I just assume the pandemic wrecked them, honestly), and my default 'I want a Krome or Sotar' thought has begun to fade and I've considered more and more about trying another Iwata (the Neo and Revolution I own have not been reliable) in the HP-CS, though the H&S Evolution and Infinity have been tempting. There's a myriad of options, regardless. Congrats on the 100k, Professor Technomancer. Give the doges some scratches as a reward.

[@theezekarion164]

100k! 100k! 100k! Nobody deserves it more than this man who doesn't swindle us for legit Painting Techniques.

[@dragonfist]

using H&S for 5 years + cheap one for priming, cant even think of getting into other brand - they are just perfect. (also for cleaning, I just love that the nozzle is not screwed in)

[@Elfhelm]

H&S Ultra is basically 5 minutes full cleaning prrocess, Infinity not that much longer.

[@prickswithstix1113]

@@Elfhelm not sure how we are different but I clean brushes in 30 sec or less, but if you are talking about a full break down you probably are right.

[@HappyDuude]

100k party time, congrats VV!

[@lanepaintsminis]

I think definitely going into ease of finding replacement parts would be a good followup for this! I have a Reaper Vex, and while it's manufactured for Reaper by Badger, the parts can only be sourced through Reaper itself. I've been waiting for the replacement needle/nozzle kit to come back in stock (I bent the tip of the detail needle accidentally). I just wish I had thought of that before investing.

[@theronhatfield8854]

I had the same problem with a G79 I got from Master Airbrush. They don't offer any parts for it all, no nozzles, no needles, nothing.

[@Enballgroda1]

Huge congrats on hitting 100k Vince! Your videos have helped me out a tonne and I'm glad so many others have come to enjoy your content.

[@VinceVenturella]

Great to hear!

[@BjornKuma]

Congrats on 100k! My Iwata HP-CS has been my workhorse for over 20 years. They've been rock solid on everything from minis to illustrations to vehicles. Super tight detail and a broad enuf to prime with. Solvent "proof" and great for all kinds of paints and coatings. Highly recommended! Another great vid!

[@VinceVenturella]

Right on!

[@LordSivra]

Thanks for making this video Vince! I have been using cheap airbrushes for a while, but I finally bit the bullet and got the Iwata HP-CS. Using it is like night and day! Thanks for making such a deep break down.

[@magnus0017]

Having just bought a new airbrush . . . Actually still really happy to see this. I wanted to get one with a pistol grip trigger because of some hand issues I've had, and it's a definite step up from the uber cheapo one I had before. I ended up spending the money getting a spray booth because I'm in an apartment, and now, being able to set up on the kitchen table instead of outside on a windy balcony, it's a good recommendation. With some good lighting, it can also be a portable painting table. Thanks for all your HC videos, Vince, and always looking forward to more.

[@FelipeBudinich]

I wanted to understand what I need for very basic stuff (priming, painting terrain), thanks for this video :)

[@NeoNaiche]

As Vince said; the Masters is a great way to start, and get into the basics. It’s cost effective, and can do the majority of the work you’d want to do

[@FelipeBudinich]

@@NeoNaiche at that price point it certainly removes any concern I had about it 👍

[@mcampbell1124]

One thing not mentioned and it matters is your air supply. Dont forget to plan and budget for it. Skip using the little disposable cans, they are very over priced. Get a compressor, preferrably one with a tank. I went to 15lbs CO2 tanks from welding supplier years ago for no noise and dry air.

[@1989eol]

I see a 100 there. Nice! Congratz! Great video. The pressure to buy an airbrush is mounting. I seriously don't have any space for it at the moment. There is no 0,5mx0,5m space in our apartment we live in at the moment. But we will move soon! So....

[@chrisbagdon]

Congratz on 100k subs!!! You deserve it!

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you so much!!

[@jamesbryan1371]

@Vince your Hobby Cheating KZbin playlist is the best BUT PLEASE change the order. The playlist autoplays backwards and starts with your newest video. Is it possible to put it in order for autoplay? T^T

[@rustedbeetle]

My workhorse is my Badger Patriot 105, and my detail tool is the H&S Infinity CR+. I would happily recommend either, but would say get the Badger first and get used to airbrushing before upgrading to an H&S.

[@bldos5362]

💯

[@soth1438]

Congrats on 100k! Thank you for all the amazing content , your videos have helped me immensely through my painting journey.

[@AwkwardBirb]

This is exactly the video I needed a year ago. Would have saved me so much stress! Still super informative and useful, though. Thank you and congrats on 100k!

[@chrisaurovilian4618]

Congrats to 100000 subscribers! Well done. Well deserved!

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you so much 😀

[@chrisaurovilian4618]

@@VinceVenturella hi Vince, did you offer me a prize?

[@VinceVenturella]

@@chrisaurovilian4618 No, its scam bots.

[@hephestus15]

Congrats on the 100k buddy! You're helping me learn artistic and hobby techniques and theory and really get started painting my own stuff ^^

[@VinceVenturella]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@willhelm94]

I'm desperately looking for a new airbrush, this came in at the perfect time! Thank you

[@heresyforheretics]

Ayyyyy..!! Congrats on 100k subs! Enjoy that silver play button. It was very well earned!

[@VinceVenturella]

Thanks a ton!

[@TW-dj5zq]

I have only recently come across your channel but absolutely love it. I love how you go into so much detail about each technique I actually understand where I have been going wrong. This is so good for troubleshooting so thank you. I have a sparmax 4 airbrush which is good as a beginner. It's quite easy to use and gives me good results priming and doing other beginner tasks. It's also a really good price.

[@VinceVenturella]

Glad to have you along on the hobby journey, always happy to help. :)

[@ralex3697]

Vince and Duncan are excellent at explaining concepts

[@jonhery7154]

Excellent video. Congratulations on 100k subscribers. Always superior content

[@stephenfromspielberg]

Good review and congrats on the 100k! One point I do like about my H&Ss is that they can be stripped and assembled without tools, which I feel is quicker and avoids wearing the bits and pieces down before their time. Besides the "surgical" H&S 0.15, 0.2 and 0.4 millimeter sizes I keep a rather hefty Badger 175 which came with 0.52, 0.77 and 1.0 mm needles which I prefer to use for priming, varnishing and covering larger surfaces on RC model planes.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

You can get neadles up to 1.2 for the infinity. You can tinker with the responsivnes aswell, you just need 2 o rings on the spring "Box" behind the trigger.

[@jakem7773]

Commenting before I watch.... this would have been a great video to see before Wednesday when I ordered an H&S infinity... Hope I hear good things!

[@mindyfranke5279]

Vince, you hit 100K! Congratulations!!!!!!!!

[@SigurdDecroos]

Nice video Vince! I have the H&S Evolution, Infinity CR Plus and since a month the one from Giraldez. Amazing airbrushes! My Evolution (0.4mm needle) is my work horse for priming, base coating and varnishing. The Infinity's for precision.

[@victorflorincopindean63]

Congratulations for the 100k Vince! Thanks for your videos, and thanks to you I got the Kyiv infinity and it totally leveled up my airbrush game. Such an amazing airbrush.

[@VinceVenturella]

Great to hear!

[@RadioFreeHammerhal]

This is EXTREMELY useful. I'm not quite to the point of upgrading my airbrush yet, but I FINALLY have figured it out and can use it regularly now, so I'm sure an upgrade will come soon...

[@rogthepirate4593]

I started out with a really cheap chinaware airbrush and a tankless compressor. Priming and basecoating was really easy with it, but it definitely felt too clumsy for much else. Then I tried the Iwata Eclipse my buddy had. Worlds apart. I sprang for a H&S Ultra, which is still fairly cheap (50 or so bucks) but works a lot better. Still keep it around for more rough work that I don't want to subject my better one to. Today I mostly use a H&S Evolution Silverline (yeah, the Squidmar edition lol) and a decent compressor with a tank, and it does make a huge difference. I'm still working out some things with it, it still clogs on me more than I feel it should, and I'm still experimenting with how I can best use it in my painting workflow, but I definitely don't regret getting it.

[@Justin_black_leviathan]

I'm ordering the giraldez harder and steenbeck next week. Can't wait to try it.

[@shoty2k]

Hey Vince, could you make a thorough video showing how you use "save points" by varnishing repeatedly in between? If I make a mistake, how can I return to my previous "save point"?

[@VinceVenturella]

You can never fully return, it just allows you, if you get paint where it shouldn't be, to wipe it away with a wet brush more safely without risking damaging anything underneath

[@TakaEvil22]

Congratulations on 100k subscribers! You deserve it

[@HypothermicIce]

Congrats on 100k! You're lookin' good too!

[@markgnepper5636]

Great stuff friend 👏 👍 Love my H&S and Grex

[@Magicwillnz]

Congrats on 100k. You are one good, wholesome guy and you deserve every good thing that happens to you.

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you so much 😀

[@MrFrostyankles]

I decided to go with the middle of the road and get the badger. I have the Iwata neo right now but I don't really like it. Thanks!

[@IsenMike]

Based on your comments about the Badger Khrome, I think you'd really love the Badger SOTAR 20/20. They have essentially the same needle/nozzle assembly, with the nozzle parts all being interchangeable between the two. (Needles would be interchangeable as well, except that SOTAR needles pass all the way through the handle in the back of the brush, so they have a ball on the end). The difference is in the construction and ergonomics of the body. The SOTAR is much lighter and has the trigger much further forwards, closer to the nozzle. That allows you to hold the SOTAR more like a pen or pencil, and get extremely precise control from your fingers rather than relying on your wrist. The trigger is also far enough forwards that you can actually steady the brush by extending your ring finger and bracing it against the model you're painting. All that extra control really lets you take advantage of the super-fine nozzle size and draw extremely sharp pencil-thin lines, particularly when airbrushing acrylic inks. The example you showed of painting that belt would have been fairly trivial with a SOTAR, at about half the price of an H&S airbrush. One overall difference between a lot of these brands that you didn't really mention is how they handle the interface between parts. H&S brushes get that silky smooth action by way of high quality seals made from PTFE or some similar material. Badger brushes have almost no seals, and instead rely on extremely precise machining for metal-on-metal connections. There are pros and cons for this, though. The metal-on-metal interfaces are, in my experience, a bit more likely to clog as paint can build up on them; however they're also much easier to clean as you can safely use much stronger solvents on an all-metal brush without concern about the solvent damaging any PTFE or rubber seals.

[@isisnmagic1812]

Great video as usual, the Iwata is in my to buy list to upgrade my cheap airbrush. Congratulations on the 100k love all your gard hard work you do on our behalf.

[@VinceVenturella]

Thanks 👍

[@AVS_uk]

Cool video and congrats on 100k. I know I can't get an airbrush until I move into a bigger home and have a space or a room it will be okay to spray in and extract from. So a video on what else you need (pressure tank, mask, suitable extraction, etc.) would be amazing some day

[@rogthepirate4593]

Take it from someone who has a small place with no closed rooms - it's essentially one large room with a few half walls dividing it up a bit. An airbrush setup for miniature acrylics isn't nearly as messy as you may think. There are small tankless compressors that do at least a basic job (although I would recommend a compressor with a small tank, they're not too big and make a lot of difference by keeping the pressure consistent), and a little spray booth with extractor hose that will fit through a cracked window is more than enough. Those aren't too expensive, and the one I have is even portable, the whole booth can fold up. It works like a charm too, to the point that I don't use a mask because it pulls the aerosols (what little there are from acrylics) into the filter immediately.

[@AVS_uk]

@@rogthepirate4593 interesting. Thank you

[@McVilla1N]

Vince thank you for all you do. Seriously you have helped me immensely coming back to the hobby After many years. I have no clue how to work patreon but I downloaded it so I could buy a membership thingy. Probably will never use it but whatever lol.

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you. It’s much appreciated and I’m happy to help

[@McVilla1N]

​@@VinceVenturellaquick question I'm currently torn between buying the infinity24, ultra24, and evo24. Was leaning more towards the evo but wanted to get your opinion on which one you think is better for someone with intermediate/ above average knowledge on paints etc w airbrushing. I'm looking to do many different effects, priming, and building up tones. Basically I need Vince's seal of approval before I purchase the 2024 evolution crplus😂😂😂

[@phoen31]

I have a great time with my HP-CS.. It really is a lot of using it over time and getting used to how it works. I do want that Kyiv Infinity Dark though. Maybe after Adepticon!

[@guyfromtheinternet1432]

3:50 It's Larry!

[@cliffwood7386]

Congrats on 100k! Earned every one and then some. Good to see the breakdown of the airbrush brands - I'm thinking of picking one up at Adepticon this year.

[@mondeitur]

Congrats on 100k Vince, see ya at Adepticon!

[@LittleIAO]

I'm a Badger guy. I can do everything with their line of brushes including the "surgeon" level of detail with something like the Sotar. Very nice, MADE IN THE USA, and being in the U.S. myself the prices are amazing. Highly recommend.

[@dirigoallagash3464]

You can get them for a steal if you're paying attention. I got the Patriot 105 for $67 off Amazon a few yrs ago. And Badger themselves had a special on all their brushes this summer after they had to cancel going to a con. Picked up the Sotar for 80 bucks with the adapter!

[@LittleIAO]

@@dirigoallagash3464 Lol yep. I picked up an Extreme Patriot during their Anniversary sale a few years ago for $55! You can't beat that.

[@michaelfouse4102]

100k! Woot woot. Sigmar surely approves ⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Excellent timing. My birthday is coming up soon and I've been rocking the g22 since Christmas. So far it's served me very well but I'm looking to upgrade.

[@VinceVenturella]

Happy birthday! (Soon) :)

[@NarcolepticLTD]

Here I am, commenting on the title and into before watching the video... My thoughts/opinion/experience... Iwata is my go to brand, an eclipse will do just about anything we need in this hobby, easy to clean and parts are readily available anywhere. Custom microns are amazing but not needed unless you need an f-16 to taxi to the convenience store. Hp-b series is also great but the eclipse still does the same basic thing with more versatility. Ok imma watch the video now so Vince can tell me why I'm wrong 😄

[@Volcodom]

I own a badger patriot and a sotar 20/20 and I one hundred percent agree with your thoughts on the brand. I always reccomend folks stateside start with a badger patriot because it's such a good workhorse that I've found also works super well for slightly finer work. It's upgradeable and hard to break. Still need to get an infinity though my goodness they're amazing.

[@dustinshorter2391]

Congrats on 101K subs! I was wonder what the difference between pistol grip airbrushes vs standard airbrushes were? Keep up the great work!

[@VinceVenturella]

So the pistol grip really doesn't have the same fine control once you get comfortable with the tool. It's a good option for those with RA or a similar condition certainly, but generally, you want the finer control of the dual action standard airbrush.

[@codymills3381]

The state of decay your airbrushes are in are clear blessings from the grandfather. Nurgle has blessed you, rejoice!

[@VinceVenturella]

So true!

[@Derlaid]

Good timing since I think I'm finally ready to buy an airbrush. Only way I think I'm ever going to get a lot of my grey plastic painted.

[@McToast1337]

One thing to consider when comparing price-performance ratio is where you live. I come from Germany, near Hamburg (where H&S comes from), and here Badger and H&S are a lot closer in price than in most parts of the rest of the world. Also, you'll never have issues with replacement parts for H&S here. There was no question for me which airbrush to buy as an upgrade over my old no-brand 30€ airbrush.

[@NikkiAnnMarie]

Great video, thanks Vince! I think it would be interesting to see your opinion on the Harder and Steenbeck Evolution - on paper it seems like a very similar airbrush to the infinity (most parts are interchangeable) but with a much lower price tag/no trigger lock. i.e., is there really a difference between a 0.2mm evolution and 0.2mm infinity?

[@mcampbell1124]

Most obvious difference is the weight. Infinity bodies are aluminum and weigh about half of a Evolution.

[@NikkiAnnMarie]

​@@mcampbell1124 As far as I am aware, only the Kyiv Infinity and some other special editions have an aluminium body, similar to the Evolution ALplus. I believe the regular versions of both are nickel plated brass, and in the case of CRplus versions, chrome plated. The only tangible feature differences I can find between the evolution and infinity are the quick fix stop, trigger tension adjustment and overall aesthetics, which I don't personally see as worth the substantial extra cost. That's really why I ask the question, as the internals/trigger mechanism might make a worthwhile difference in the feel/control between the two brushes.

[@VinceVenturella]

Yeah, there is a weight and a little bit of a quality difference in the precision. If you're starting, no huge differences, as you skill up, you feel it more.

[@WhiteWulfe]

At present I've got a VigiArt HS-30 (currently with a 0.5mm needle in it, stock is 0.3mm) as well as a Madworks M201 (product comes from the same factory as Iwata bodies do), and while I haven't used the Madworks one (compressor's tank gained a mysterious rattle alongside rust, so it's being replaced) there is a noticeable difference in the smoothness of the two, with the Madworks also having a little more resistance the further you pull the trigger back. One of these days I'd love to try out a Harder & Steenback just to see what my thoughts are, although I suspect I'll wind up setting my sights more on a trigger brush as the higher end one due to my wrists having repetitive strain injury and a few other things (in short, hands can cramp up rather quickly when doing some things). Thanks for doing such a thorough overview of a wide selection of airbrushes, and what they can bring to the table, it's rather refreshing to see an actual comparison alongside reasons why one might pick one or the other. Any particular reason Paasche isn't in here?

[@VinceVenturella]

The short answer on Paasche is I've never really liked them or found them to have the quality sadly. The trigger makes total sense with that kind of injury.

[@Wijkert]

2:36 maybe good to mention that it's a convenient alternative for regulating pressure, instead of directly on you compressor.

[@tempusavatar]

Thanks for the video. 2 things: You didn't mention anything regarding ease of disassembly; my ceap Chinese model is a pain to disassemble, however my H&S is a dream. Also, my 2nd airbrush was the H&S entry level model (evolution I think,) I purchased it with a set of Vallejo paints at a reasonable price. The engineering dimensions on the H&S models match for most parts that count, so I was able to start with the cheaper brush and upgrade my needles, nozzles, and caps with infinity parts over time as I could afford them. Just letting everyone know that is a viable option instead of the up-front cost.

[@Alphacheesehunter]

100k!! So excited.

[@VinceVenturella]

🎉

[@blakegreen82]

Do you have a video on tips for using an airbrush? I have some spattering problems and it could be my cheap compressor or maybe something with my airbrush. Some of my questions would be: What consistency does your paint need to be to properly go through an airbrush? What PSI to use and when you may go higher or lower? Does thickness of your tip matter? How do you troubleshoot some common problems? Thanks for the video, I learned a lot! Congrats on 100K! From what I can tell, you definitely deserve it!

[@VinceVenturella]

I have many videos in the playlist, they should answer your questions :). 10 Tips - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHPHe2ZnqNdgps0 Priming - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3jNc4SwpNqefMk Ultimate Guide - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHvGmJlpZttoiLc There is more, but that should help.

[@blakegreen82]

@@VinceVenturella Thank you!! After I asked that last night I binged a ton of your airbrush content! In one of your videos you said something along the lines of "if you are getting spitter or backflow your nozzle is clogged." And as someone who almost always cleans my airbrush by pushing everything through the front I definitely had some paint in my nozzle. I cleaned that this morning! I will be starting your hobby cheating from the beginning! My binge last night got me pumped to paint more!

[@kraviits6647]

Thank you for the video 👌🏼 Running my HP CS since I saw you using it in most of your videos. What trigger pressure are you using with HP CS(screwed in or out?)and how do you handle the disassembly and getting the trigger pressure right after assembling again?. Your Hobby Cheating videos have been a generous weekly gift to the community for a very long time. Btw it's "Keev" or kee-eev. Both are fine as long as you don't use Kiew. Thank you for trying to get it right

[@VinceVenturella]

I really want to pronounce it correctly, I just always get flustered and confused and worried I will say it wrong, but definitely trying. :)

[@spacedock873]

Hi Vince. Excellent video with a lot of useful information - especially that virtually any (non-trash!) airbrush is good for things like priming. I have about 5 including a couple of Neo TRN2's that I use for priming and clear-coating - one I use for acrylics, the other for lacquers. The bigger cups are useful when working on the larger models I tend to do mostly. I also have an Iwata HP-CS for precision work. I must admit that I often have a love-hate relationship with my airbrushes as getting them to "behave" can sometimes be difficult. Balancing air pressure, paint thinning and spray distance still seems to be a hit and miss 😔 Now that you have done a basic introduction to the airbrushes maybe a series on how to use them effectively and how to avoid issues may be useful. There are many airbrush tutorial videos on KZbin but only a few have your soothing tones. Since your airbrushes look suitably "used" perhaps you could start with an update to HC213 - how to clean your airbrush? 😉

[@kevinkerlin5603]

Congrats to 100k

[@germaN87AC]

Hi Vince, I watched your video again to find one which airbrush I should upgrade to. I started with Master G233, had a good practice for months on priming etc but now the nozzle broke. I could not remove the part that's stucked inside and guess it is a good time to upgrade. Looks like Iwata HP-CS is a good choice since it will be my work horse. I promise to take care of it 😅

[@Numfuddle]

I’d like to offer a slightly different perspective. I get that a lot of people who are just getting started don’t want to overspend on gear when they don’t even know if they’re going to stick with it. Also not everyone has the disposable income to go for more upmarket tools. Be aware though that there’s a reason why those tools are cheap and some of the time the „cheapness“ of the tools makes working with them more frustrating and error prone than necessary and can actually make learning skills harder because they’re more frustrating and less enjoyable to use. As a musician I see that quite often. People want to learn to play an instrument and they go out and buy the cheapest offering available because it’s less money wasted if it turns out that they don’t want to stick with it. They then absolutely hate playing the instrument because it doesn’t sound right or it’s harder to play and keep in tune and the experience actually working with it is really not enjoyable. So they stop and come to the conclusion that it’s „just too hard“ or that they „thought they’d enjoy it more than they did“. More often than not they get more enjoyment out of their hobby when you show them an instrument that is one step up from cheapest, one where the manufacturer didn’t have to cut as many corners to get it to such a low price and where the build quality and ease of use is simply better. Doesn’t mean though that you have to go for an Iwata or a Harder and Steenbeck airbrush when you’re just getting started but more often than not getting into a hobby is more enjoyable and learning and acquiring skills is easier when you don’t go for the cheapest everything option and instead start off with one tier higher even if it makes the initial investment more expensive

[@NikkiAnnMarie]

I partially agree, but I wouldn't say the cheaper airbrushes are comparatively that bad. Personally, I think most people are given awful advice about airbrush maintenance/use when they start, and it ends up becoming a chore. Cleaning/clogging is the pain point for a lot of people, not control, which is the main difference from a more expensive airbrush. Obviously cleaning the cheaper brushes is less enjoyable, disassembly not being as smooth, but I wouldn't say it's so much worse than an expensive one. That being said, some of the better airbrushes that are a step above 'cheapest' are the Iwata Neo, Sparmax Max-3, and H&S Ultra, and the build quality reflects the price increase. Also, GSI/Mr Hobby offer similar airbrushes to Iwata (some seem to come from the same factory) but are often less expensive compared.

[@ger5956]

I got a bundle with a compressor and airbrush for around €120 four years ago and have put in 100’s if not 1000’s of hours of painting with them. Never had a single issue and they do 99% of what I want them to. I’d highly recommend giving the cheaper airbrush’s a chance, you may end up very pleasantly surprised by what you can do with them, I know I was. I was only planning on using it for a few months to get a feel for airbrushing and then upgrading the whole setup, but honestly I’ve never felt the need to, I’ll probably upgrade at some stage, but it isn’t anywhere close to a priority for me.

[@rogthepirate4593]

As a fellow musician, I at least agree in part. A good instrument does make a world of difference. As they say, buy cheap, buy twice. I don't think this fully translates to airbrushes though. There it really kinda depends on how you plan to use it. If all you want to do is prime, don't waste money on a high-end H&S.

[@Numfuddle]

@@rogthepirate4593 true. For me it really comes down to whether a really cheap setup (cheap compressor, cheap airbrush, self built ventilation) does that. I often hear from people that they have issues with clogging or that it’s much harder to set up or clean everything. I have read people arguing that they went back to priming with rattle cans because it’s less annoying. It’s about the sweet spot really where the tool is built well enough to not constantly get on your nerves and where you start to enjoy using it. That’s certainly not a H&S high end airbrush but it’s not necessarily the cheapest option from Home Depot or Amazon either

[@rogthepirate4593]

@@Numfuddle That's fair. My first setup was basically one of those 50€ amazon china shovelware sets. Tankless compressor, an absolutely terrible airbrush. I did get a decent spray booth immediately tho, which helped. Eventually upgraded to a H&S Ultra, which is still pretty cheap but I daresay one of the best airbrushes in that price category. Made a huge difference, to the point that I now recommend it to everyone I know who wants to get into airbrushing. I've since come to use the airbrush a lot more so I eventually got a better compressor with a tank, and ended up buying one of those H&S Evolution Squidmar edition airbrushes. Very happy with that one now. But for just priming or something, that's obviously overkill.

[@tBauncer]

100k! Congratulations,

[@bldos5362]

H&S German engineering is pretty amazing. 😍

[@tombrand236]

Yes the quality is fantastic!

[@kegofort]

I have the H&S Evolution with the infinity tip. Love it. Also have the Iwata HP-C for my workhorse. Great airbrushes

[@kardrellik]

Just got the H&S Giraldez. Going from Badger patriot to this one has been a huge change. But the H&S has been fantastic and well worth the $. Plus with Vince's previous videos about airbrushing I never worry about it clogging up.

[@kardrellik]

@Vince_Venturella how do I DM you?

[@tinyfishhobby3138]

I'm considering going from the Patriot to the H&S Evolution 2-in-1...

[@IrulianDark]

Congrats on the 100K - those who haven't found your channel or don't subscribe are missing out! If H&S approached you to design an artist version of your airbrush, what features would you add to make it different? And what colour? Magenta? Teal?

[@VinceVenturella]

I'd have to think on the features, but definitely magenta and teal!

[@prickswithstix1113]

Great video and great instruction!! The tool is only as good as the operator! You did hit that point often and that is important! People hear what they want to hear unfortunately. I feel sorry for those who hear the Iwata or HS .3 to .15 and have not really leaned the air brush skills and have no idea how to PROPERLY thin and mix paint additives!! Thanks again for validating what I know and teaching me things I didn’t! And the production just continues to improve! 100k🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@brkfstfd]

Ive been wanting a HiLine or Kyiv and I ended up finally ordering the Kyiv last night. I think the Kyiv is not a ton different than my CoP Infinity but should still help me be even more precise. The CoP has a 0.4mm dual taper needle (and hitting that part of the needle where it tapers on your draw back is…hard to get used to)…I think the Kyiv has their dual taper too (I think after the CoP they made it standard) but much less so. Also the 2ml cup vs 5…2 is perfection for me. The 5 is a little big.

[@MrStatistx]

Oh wow, i just had one of those Berenstain Bears moments with Harder and Steenbeck and you seem to have too. I saw you write "Steenbeck" and was looking at my box, cause i was sure it's called Steinbeck, but it is indeed Steenbeck. You write it correctly in the cut-in text, but you say Steinbeck and also write it in the timestamps XD

[@gamelover260]

I started with the Neo For Iwata, good starter brush i felt. The i moved up to a badger patriot 105 with detail and super detail, worked greatm i loved it. Recently i got the Monument Hobbies grex XG, Its heavy and i actually like that though because i feel like i have more control.

[@bzzlr]

Hi Vince, first of all thanks for all the great quality content you put online, what you do here is invaluable, I'm learning a lot thanks to you! Don't know if maybe you already did a video on this specific topic (I've watched a lot, but not all of your videos yet :D) but I would like to learn more about air pressure settings related to airbrushing. More specifically, which range of pressure do you find good for miniature paining and how do you decide the specific value? Do you usually set a certain value in the compressor and then you push the air trigger all the way down (so basically controlling only the amount of paint with your finger) or do you prefer to control both together with the trigger? I mean, I know that the dual action is a great feature that gives a lot more control but I'm wondering if that's always used by experts like you also at the tiny size of the miniatures we usually paint. Thanks again and congratulation for reaching 100k subscribers, well deserved!

[@VinceVenturella]

I generally use 18 or so PSI, I control everything through the trigger for the most part.

[@witlessfop36]

The world needs a Vince vs Angel Giraldez airbrush showdown.

[@VinceVenturella]

I don't think I am desperate to be shamed that badly. ;)

[@Gamma_Draconis]

I personally would recomend to use a .3- .5 neadle for priming because less problematic. For details I use my Iwata hp bh because the trigger control is better for me compared to the infinity. Ps I do use the Mac valve quite often but I don't know anybody who use the reducer. In any case it was refreshing to see sombody to use the crown cap because.. Congrats for 100k subs, well erned.

[@HuntingHeresy]

The Kyiv, just like the Giraldez, is a CR-Plus with a fancy finish.

[@VinceVenturella]

It also has the lighter body and internal components.

[@Phillipbain]

Dang I forgot how much I love venturella vids

[@VinceVenturella]

WElcome back! Glad they're still enjoyable. :)

[@MrMarrok657]

I use the g23 right now, bought primarily for priming but also ordered the other size needles and tips to try out more detailed stuff. trigger control however is what I need to work on. for $30 its better than the one I had before.

[@RottenJeeves]

Id recommend the Iwata - Revolution Cr over the badger chrome. Its the same price, lighter, and has a better trigger.

[@NogoatsnogloryOld]

Vince at 3:39 you add two drops of something before adding your primer, is that flow improver?

[@VinceVenturella]

Its my standard thinner mix of 80/20 thinner/flow improver.