CRAZY SWAY While Towing My RV with a Semi Truck!

[@jamiesuejeffery]

I suggest backing the Razor into the trailer so the engine is closer to the 5th wheel axels.

[@1BlackSheep]

Beat me to it ,was about to say the same. Won't help a lot but if it's swaying every little bit will help some.

[@cobramike13bravo63]

Same, when I seen that big damn engine it has.

[@Gideon_Judges6]

There's too much weight behind the axels. Try to shift the weight, maybe load the side by side backwards.

[@neonhomer]

That's what I was thinking..... load the SxS in backwards...

[@dawsonburrell9754]

Same suggestion from me.

[@mdnky]

As others have noted, sway is usually due to improper weight balance. You can verify this by pulling it with and without the side-by-side. If the problem goes away unloaded, you have your answer. To remedy, you'll need to get more weight forward of the axles. The semi having the same issue also confirms weight distribution as being the most probable cause. The trailer's stated hauling capacity by the MFG is usually figured with a basic version of the trailer, completely empty. Options added by the dealer/you and cargo will reduce it. Those little things can add up very quickly. Notice the sticker says the weight of cargo should never exceed 3690lbs. It doesn't say specifically that's the amount it can actually handle. You can find the real capacity with some basic math and measurements. Weight it loaded (any luggage, food, water, clothes, etc.) and subtract that number from that 16800lb GVWR. There's your true excess cargo capacity. Based on the info in the video, your realistic capacity is probably only roughly 1500lbs. That's assuming you get more of weight over the tongue to keep your rear axles from being over-loaded as well. You may well find you need a bigger trailer with more capacity, or you need to figure out a way to lighten the load on your current one. You definitely need to resolve the matter, as the legal (civil and criminal) liability from pulling an over-weight trailer is significant. If you get in an accident, any 2-bit lawyer will have a very easy case against you. That's not a risk that's worth taking, IMO.

[@WVT0587]

Seems like Bruce is having a lot of buyer’s remorse with his camper and motorhome purchases lately.

[@dieselwrench3621]

A lot of times they’re way overpriced and have issues straight off the lot. Been there and dealt with it, and it can make you really second guess your decision.

[@justaputtoffroad173]

If he doesn’t find something to complain about he doesn’t have a video. He has to know better than to load the trailer the way he has. If it sways behind a rig then it is a loading issue. 🤷‍♂️

[@Eliaslopez-y5c3d]

Ong

[@steverone7623]

Who would of thunk grand designs makes a bad toy hauler

[@Cuttin_Up_Cassics]

I'd have buyers remorse with a 3/4 ton short box truck!!

[@JPWyo307]

Bruce, look into the air ride suspension conversion kits for fifth wheels. Also back your side by side into the garage for better weight distribution.

[@adriannetea4447]

Thank you for the video.I’m glad that you could go with your family in a camping trip.Wish you all the best!

[@Treysworth3]

I tow a 45ft 5th wheel with a 6” lift on 37 26x14 ram 2500. Your truck should tow that fine. I would suggest backing in the rzr and honestly filling the water tanks adds weight to the front

[@thomaswilson8634]

Did you get the fuel station. Thatsc2c30 gal tanks worth of added weight. I just retired and ive decided to use my t680 to pull my moblie suites i just bought today. My friend is having same issue you were having . After going to a show his answer on the sway is we designed it for a golfcart. Big weight difference. I looked at the new brinkleys and i like them but da wife wanted the luxury. Lmaso. I still have to hook up n see if need to move fifthwheel back futher. Ok take care

[@bryancostlow8508]

I carry my vw bug in my toy hauler. Try backing it in. Makes a huge difference with my setup. Good luck

[@BLAHBLAH-qq4je]

Back the side by side in to get the heavy side toward the axles.

[@zacharybishop2290]

Try backing it in with the motor closer to the axels

[@waynelarson1576]

Solution to stuff hitting the mother attic on the camper would be getting some full fenders for the truck and I think you should probably find some that look pretty damn

[@bgood424]

It’s almost to the point of needing another axle on the 5th wheel, back it into the trailer and put the heavy end of the SXS as close to the axle as possible

[@samduty554]

That's what I was going to recommend.

[@7.3powerstroke6]

A toy hauler of this size 10 to 15 years ago would for sure have 3 axles. I notice a lot of newer trailers trying to get buy with heavier axles and using only 2

[@gabbymcgibson984]

or he could read his cargo limits

[@brianrobinson7641]

Back that razor in so the motor is closer to the axles on the trailer

[@sethmiller4250]

Try loading your razor backwards

[@scottweih1398]

I had the same problem and backed in my sxs, much improvement in handling and tongue weight.

[@noahsaatkamp5301]

You should know the Can-Am backwards with the engine towards the front of the camper

[@preciousmemories6890]

Love the 'camping vlogging' videos! Keep 'em going!!!!

[@LucasA-lu2vu]

Try backing the sxs in. The engine will be closer to the trailer axles, I haul mine that way

[@RanLes7]

Nice rigs for sure! Backing the razor in will definitely help weight distribution… Also, make sure when you load the front part of your RV make sure you put most of your carry on up front in the overhead bed area if you can to add more weight to your hitch.

[@grumpbrewer5893]

Where is your Peterbuilt motor home????

[@scottycollins1829]

Remodeling the interior

[@evepayton1201]

So looks fun to travel together like that! Awesome video thank you for sharing! I hope me and my brothers could do that kind of travel together one of these daze! God bless y’all!

[@moboost4114]

Those Zillas eat!! Ever heard of Indian mountian in Alabama it’s a fun place to ride as well.

[@ericestep9880]

Speedwell!! That’s by norris lake. Our summer home! Have a good trip!

[@cookymudstar]

I love my torsion bar triple x l thirty foot tag trailer and make sure you get that in writing that they will still warrant it

[@avgeekamal]

I'm a big fan Bruce i love our vids

[@juanhinojosa7890]

Can you tell me how did you make your electrical connection conversion harness?

[@chrisstokes8416]

Try backing the razor in

[@movingearth3726]

We had the same issue what we did was took it back and got a tri axel and problem was solved

[@shawnmcnally46]

Backing the razor in more weight closer to those axles. Couple people suggestion same thing!

[@Troutelectric4492]

That's exactly what I want a tractor for. I pull a 41, 2 bedroom, 2 bath 5th wheel with a 1 ton, 06 power stroke. I really need that cab over, fingers crossed, I win it!

[@catpower5422]

I had the same issue back your rzr in be good to go

[@thomaswilson8634]

By thecway My name is Thomas J Wilson. Lol. From snellville Georgia born n raised in Forsyth Georgia.

[@warrenmichael918]

Get a dually and load the SXS in backwards. I wouldnt mess with adding another axle, i woulda just got a 3 axle but i understand it not being easy to get in and out of your yard.

[@admech0388]

my friend did the same thing on his wolfpack kinda instresting seams to work good i suggest also going to a 14 ply tire

[@edwardwilliams9874]

Kinda heavy in the back of the trailer did ya load the side by side backwards so the weight is closer to the axles

[@bennyboogenheimer4553]

Bro, just gotta say, I love you wife, for all the Hell you throw at her. lol! You really hit the lottery finding her. God Bless you and yours.

[@ShortyG724]

Back the rzr in Bruce. You’ll have much more weight closer to the axles. The motor is in the rear. Should help

[@fredproctor6973]

Heavy end of the razor towards the front, and put a little more weight up front.

[@gjek6355]

Just a thought we used to have sway with car transporters in Uk. ( 13 car carriers 65 ft long). When new tyres were fitted ( super singles special tyre for transporter trailers), until shoulder on tyres wore in we would experience a sway like that . We would also run overweight on axles due to different vehicle sizes that had to be loaded. We would squeeze everything on .

[@brianb-p6586]

At 2:42 did you say that you would adjust the "pintle hitch"? This is not a pintle hitch. A pintle is a hook (on the truck) which supports a horizontal ring (on the trailer), mostly used for military and heavy commercial trailers and dollies.

[@joedoak3478]

Always do level with shore power when possible same for slides

[@RexHankins-uo3cn]

Had a similar problem with my Weekend Warrior three axel, backing my sxs made a huge difference.

[@mikemccabe7124]

if ur able to put the SXS in the trailer garage backwards so the majority of the SXS drivetrain is closer to da axles so most of its weight is over the axles it should be enough to help with the sway to get u home safest

[@bradleyjr.mikulecky9758]

reversing the polaris into the fifth wheel would be a better idea i think considering the engine is most of the weight of that thing in one spot it should help

[@MrDomino127]

Add a axle and try to shift as much weight as you can forward. The heavier weight in a RV as you have should always go as far forward as you can. The heavier weight in the back will always cause a trailer (RV) to sway. Their are several videos showing how the heavier weight in back will cause a vehicle to sway with weight distribute in the back. I pulled a RV several years with my 2004 4X4 Silverado. I pulled a Jayco Pinnacle, it was a 43'.

[@joshhassler]

Really enjoying the camping vlogging stuff! Like to see another persons prospective of camping!

[@derail6996]

Where is the water tank in the trailer? If they are forward of the axle fill em up! That will compensate for all the weight behind the axles!!!

[@buckandbrandy]

I wonder if the razor weighs more than you think it does, the only thing that causes trailer sway, is to have more weight behind the axles than in front.

[@randywebster5036]

I agreed with some of the other comments on backing in

[@Gingerbread_man117]

U should try backing in the razer because the motor is the heavies part

[@phantomwolf6.7l65]

Had the same problem but since I got a shocker hitch and a triple axle toy hauler never had no more problems 3/4 ton pickup. Never had no problem pulling afterwards that I got my shocker hitch and triple axle toy hauler

[@Bigfoot64]

God Bless 🇺🇲👊 Bruce

[@robbinstruckinglandclearin786]

Come on up here I lived in Florida for 25 years I moved up here and I love it.

[@coteystringfellow4851]

Do your vlog off the fuel island. Transfer weight forward in the camper. If water tanks are forward of the axle fill them up

[@briananderson5284]

Another Great Video 😊like was said earlier load backwards. Good Luck you put out some great content !!!

[@panman185]

Empty freshwater tank until you get closer to where you are going. Plus, like everyone else stated load the Razar backwards.

[@edwardstephens247]

Great ideal getting the semi to pull the camper trailer!

[@nia6849]

Overkill

[@amsimons29]

I back my razor in and it helps a lot with the swaying

[@chuckgilbert2845]

Would definitely back it in, I had the same problem and that solved it.

[@jamesfoster6414]

Got to love that i75 exit 310 loves

[@wildwilliesadventures]

Same issues with my Granddesign. Design flow big time. Triple is a lot better but you need to pull with a dully.

[@Stonewall_Jackson_1863]

lets see how many RV/Campers Bruce goes through before he's happy.

[@zr2kevin03]

I was going to say the same thing. It the second motorhome no more?

[@runh3r0run]

They all have problems I work on them. All I can say is enjoy/use the warranty!

[@daytime8153]

1st of all. You are pulling a 5th wheel that has a pin weight of almost 3600 lbs. With a 250!!! With everything your hauling in your truck. I wouldn't dought if you are over your payload capacity. By about 2000 lbs. This proves how devious RV sales people are. Please do your homework.

[@Stonewall_Jackson_1863]

@@daytime8153 Hoss, I ain't Bruce, I don't know why you're replying to me with this......

[@dustinb1275]

I towed a 42’ 2015 Heartland landmark 365 5th wheel with my semi truck and it swayed. The 365 is not a toy hauler and grosses out at 17,500. When I hauled it from the dealer empty it swayed. The air conditioner, all the cabinets, the tv’s, convection oven I honestly think it’s because these things have a lot of weight up high.

[@jrbarlow6071]

So being a driver and a I live in a camper we have 1 size bigger and 2 axle we added a tag to the ass end off a a dump truck works off air from the semi and has a dump switch that I can run inside

[@stowaway475]

A I always stick a torpedo level on the kitchen floor to level our trailer

[@derekvandyke5132]

That's exactly why we have a triple axle and put as much in front as possible and even put the quads in the kitchen to help with our sxs being in the back

[@mikehoncho4472]

I pull a 37ft raptor with my Ram 2500 Cummins. Have it on bags. When I have it loaded with toys I air down on the bags to give a minor squat and this solved the dog tail wag problem completely.

[@BeYeshuas144k]

You should have back the Razr up in your toy hauler being the engine is the heaviest part closest to the axel would be better

[@CobbRailFilms]

I PASSED YOU GUYS! I was coming from Knoxville tn going to atl and I saw you guys around athens tennessee on i75 south! Tried to get yall to honk but you never saw me.

[@brianmorg]

Great example of doing your research before buying, and understanding how weight adds up quickly…also weight distribution.

[@AdonisAmarante]

Camping and vlogging is nice, I like it

[@charlescastle5566]

I am a fan of the camping vlog I say keep it Bruce.

[@tonytrumble]

Backing your sidexside in would help but I never had an issue when I pulled my 44' RAPTOR toy hauler with my single wheel 1 ton 4x4 Ram Grant it I had an extra axle but I know for a fact I was much heavier as well.

[@tonykimber7573]

Try putting the side by siide in backwards moving the weight forward should help

[@scottvaughan473]

Back your side by side in. The heavy end closest to the axles

[@3v1lmind]

oh yeah we love camping!!!!!

[@edwardstephens247]

I hope you all have a great vacation

[@jameshenry3921]

Bruce back the side by side in camper. Put the weight of motor closer to the axles to put more tongue weight on truck

[@Brian-tm4xt]

Really enjoy the camping video bring more to the channel man

[@NUKEzx10r]

Love it!

[@brianb-p6586]

The leveling system on the three-axle trailer goes down before going up because these cheap and crude hydraulic systems don't have bi-directional valves for each ram, so they can can only retract together, or extend them individually. That means they need to start with the RV low... and they do that by retracting (all of) the jacks, then extending them in whatever combination achieves level. If they miss and adjust, they can only drive the RV higher in the adjustments, so it always ends up higher than it would be if competently adjusted manually.

[@Baka_Oppai]

I'm watching this in my RV in Tifton Georgia right now

[@darkonecoming]

that's how you do it, good job

[@nickyarnot2132]

I would definitely recommend distributing the weight in the camper better and look into a stabilizer kit.

[@technocody9296]

Stabilizer kits on his pickup truck will help alot. Even with high windy and increased speed on highway but no sway. I recommend sticking with same speed as before and after. For safety reason anyway

[@richardrosner8447]

First off you should've gotten yourself a 3 axle Momentum. Plus you need a 1 ton dually and the tractor is way overkill for that rig. Seems you would know this?

[@Doublejj55]

Hell ya the vlogs are chill

[@colewhitworth9941]

Get the triple axle you will love it more we pull with a 2500 ram 2019 short bed and pull a momentum 46’ with 2 Harley street glides no problem.

[@keitharnett2647]

We have 397 Momentum been full time RVing 8 years , tri-axle lot better pulled mine 80mph tracks on rails. I actually pull utility trailer with KRX we use garage for other stuff . If going add axle replace all axles go disc brakes if have drum .

[@Phx_Trucker]

Hey, can you make a video of the Harness/conversion that you made? I am trying to haul my camper with my rig.

[@roynelson8140]

I pulled a 22000 lb bumper pull 3 axle Monte Carlo from Michigan to Arizona with a gas3/4 ton 1999 truck never had any issues was a little heavy but it did fine

[@kennethallsworth1351]

I love all the content you put out Bruce. Keep up the good work and I’m looking forward to winning Blue Collar

[@LilyandOllieTv]

Definitely need to take a trip to Colorado spend time in Colorado you'll think completely different

[@waynelarson1576]

After further watching maybe put the side by side in backwards so the motor is closer to the trailer axles it might make a little bit better I don't know if it would or not but it would be worth a shot

[@mb554]

Not the perfect answer to to overall weight but fill the water tanks. Our momentum did the same thing when the garage was loaded.

[@chadsmith9979]

Try loading your side by side what's the engine facing toward the front but most of the weight over them axles

[@sammapes1216]

Great video. Have a fun and safe trip. !!

[@curtm6867]

Try putting UTV in reverse/backwards that way the engine weight is closer to the last trailer axle! Might help

[@kirkjones9827]

You can load the radar backwards as far as you can and put anything heavy up over the nose to add weight to the 5th wheel.

[@paulrichards6033]

Have fun!

[@jeremywilson6337]

Ya bro all hydraulic self leveling is the way to go. I love ours