Tc Dog Training's 'Three Point Whistle Recall Training'

[@markchapman6652]

Top video, very simplistic & effective ... Thanks for posting .

[@CrueLoaf]

Thank you I appreciate the feedback! I have recently written similar articles for Your Dog Magazine. This month (Oct cover) is all about recall!! The following five months are based on life in the park with exercises and training games.

[@geoffgill5257]

Great job. All makes sense. Trained our dog along these lines and it didn't take long for him to pick it up

[@tonycruse3648]

+Geoff Gill Thanks Geoff. I'm just about to wrote an article for Your Dog Magazine on this whistle recall plan. Called Training 1,2,3 it will feature recall, loose lead walking and focus.

[@geoffgill5257]

Ah ok thanks

[@suhaylett]

Lovely dog, good simple method just needs client patience. I also teach checking in and clicking for dog offering it progressing to long line and off lead but the whistle is good, clients like 'things' to do :)

[@dreamcometrue121]

Great video will definitely give this a go with my puppy

[@sbooder]

We have two dogs, is it better to start by taking them out one at a time to start the lead and long line training for the first few weeks please? Great video by the way. Thanks.

[@CrueLoaf]

Thank you. Yes. Always better to train individually. After getting each tuned to the whistle, and you reintroduce them, you will still have to train a little more. You can also introduce a little competition and reward the first dog back! 👍🏻

[@redlunnon8333]

I'mbvhopeful this technique will work with my 15 month. He has never had a recall problem but we recently moved to a farmhouse and discovered he loves to chase tractors and wonders off to the nearby plough fields. He comes home eventually but after he has had swim in the ponds and roll around first! I will order one of those whistles recommended for sure too.

[@spansinspain]

I really learned from this. Thank you Tony 👍🏻

[@allbunsglazing]

Great video, thanks for posting.

[@balfie]

This video is brilliant, thanks so much for posting. Its working really well so far with our lurcher, its made a world of difference. Thanks! :)

[@CrueLoaf]

Thank you I appreciate the feedback! I have recently written similar articles for Your Dog Magazine. This month (Oct cover) is all about recall!! The following five months are based on life in the park with exercises and training games.

[@balfie]

CrueLoaf Thanks for letting me know, I will make sure I get copies. That sounds ideal for us, very interested to read.

[@1270tracey]

Thank you so much, great video

[@1827Beethoven]

Thanks for the video, going to try it with my Goberian (:

[@seymourbums4300]

This is a superb video. Will definitely give it a go for our 7mo springador. Struggling a little with voice commands as we have 3 children so is naturally quite alot of noise all at one time. Would you do this through out the day starting out with the toot indoors or just every now and then? Thanks.

[@CrueLoaf]

Thank you. I appreciate your comments. Yes, start in the house but process to garden...do it as much as you can. Try not to tip off the dog though. Also, try and get the food to the dog within about 5 seconds. You want to make the association very, very clear and so consistent it becomes a near reflex. Pip>food. Pip>food. Pip>food etc.

[@fireblade19746]

A lot may depend on the dogs prey drive . We have a pointer, good recall but he chased a deer the other day. Went missing for nearly 30 mins which felt like an eternity

[@jennyattwater3832]

I really like your video - not just because you have a Toller! Is he a Decoymans? :) I have a young Toller myself and although I have introduced her to the whistle, I didn't train it properly, so I'm in the process of teaching it again with a new whistle tone and 'pip pattern.' Love the way you teach recall, it's the same way that I have recently learned and I wouldn't teach it any other way now! Also love the advice you give about touching collar or harness - the only little thing that I would add if it were me (sorry, I know you didn't ask for feedback so take it with whatever size pinch of salt you like!) is that the touching of the collar/harness should really be before you feed if you're conditioning it properly and ensuring the dog knows what you're doing. But thank you!

[@tonycruse3648]

Hi Jenny, yes he is a Decoymans. :) Glad you likes the video. You can re-condition the whistle and as you rightly said, change the the pip patters or introduce a a vague tune. Incidentally I have a book out which may help you and your Toller for many issues. It's called '101 Doggy Dilemmas' and is doing really well on Amazon with over twenty five-star reviews.

[@jennyattwater3832]

Tony Cruse Lovely, I'll have a look, thank you! He has the air of a Decoymans :)

[@Ajledbetter123]

Fantastic video, thank you greatly. We are introducing this to our 5 month old puppy and we've also read to associate good things with the whistle and to start we could use her dog food at feeding time. Now, she already sits and waits until released verbally to eat her food. Would we make her wait as normal, or would we make her wait, whistle and then release? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@lazielok_ch99]

Great vid thanks..

[@kmitchell9374]

Love the Toller!

[@CrueLoaf]

Thanks. Unfortunately his method no longer works for him and he has gone completely deaf! But he's happy in himself. :)

[@lamegalectora]

Thank you for posting. I have tried this but I find that as soon as my dog is off the lead he is far too interested in getting his own rewards and my treats are only second best, so he fails to come to the whistle. This happens even when I take him to a quiet park early in the morning when there is nobody around, simply because he finds great enjoyment in following scents, chasing birds, etc. WHAT THEN?

[@tonycruse3648]

+lamegalectora Ensure the pip produces a near-reflex head turn from him. Go back to week two. And when you get to week three, don't allow him off the longline until you start getting that lookback and return. Use his breakfast in the park after the pip of the whistle. If he likes chasing toys, you can pip and whip out a toy for him to chase. The important factor is when he does return to you, even from a few paces away, touch his collar, reward and release him back to his chosen fun (if safe to do so). He will learn that most of the time, if he returns to you his chosen rewards will not always end. Do this many times during a walk. Hope that helps.

[@lamegalectora]

Thank you, very helpful indeed! I am now starting with stage 4, and I get mostly good results, BUT sometimes my dog appears not to hear the whistle (when he is very concentrated on a scent, he is a hound). What shall I do then? Keep blowing the whistle? Go back to stage 3 and pop on his lead to draw his attention? Is it that I have not imprinted it strongly enough? It works well when he is not lost in his own world of scent. THANK YOU

[@CrueLoaf]

+lamegalectora If you have blown about five pips and he is ignoring. Stop pipping, if it is safe enough, wait until he looks up and re-pip. Or go and get him. It is normal and called 'environmental drift' and happens occasionally when the environment trumps the whistle. It's almost like his ears have shut down. :) Plus his instinctual hard-wired behaviour kicks in. With a dog that chases, you have about a five second window to pip. 100% recall is practically impossible with an happy and enthusiastic dog. Aim for 90% and most people will get 70%. You are going to get the best possible recall using this technique. Tony

[@lamegalectora]

thank you very much Tony, much appreciated

[@Litesnip2022]

CrueLoaf I'm glad I read this comment and the one above . I have a 2 year old springer spaniel and when out he shuts Down and goes into his world when out .in the house he listens. When on fields it's hit and miss with him listening . massive problem is recall so I'm going to try this method and take the comments on board . thanks for the video .

[@The00MOFO]

awesome thanks. at what point can i stop rewarding with treats?

[@Pants1205]

very useful. thanks

[@CrueLoaf]

Thank you I appreciate the feedback! I have recently written similar articles for Your Dog Magazine. This month (Oct cover) is all about recall!! The following five months are based on life in the park with exercises and training games.

[@debbr2304]

Thanks for the very detailed video.When can I eliminate the treats? My puppy is almost 5 months. She can sit and down, but I need this to get her to come every time I call. I'm looking forward to watching your other videos.

[@CrueLoaf]

I personally would use treats for every recall. Once it is fairly reliable you can switch to a favourite toy or tennis ball but only if your dog, truly loves the toy or ball. You are competing with the environment and other dogs so it is worth making the rewards high value.

[@fiftever6207]

nice video thank you. The best info that I have read was at Brainy paws (i googled it) Without a doubt the most awesome dog training tips that I have ever tested.

[@tonycruse3648]

+Fift Ever Not as awesome as these tips! Don't even leave this page! Tell Dan there are no 'secrets' in dog training! ;)

[@ETERNALCRUSADERS]

On the first and second week when our dog is having a run off lead in the fields. Do we just forget about the whistle when calling him back?

[@definitelynotashark1799]

I've been trying to teach myself to wolf whistle for a year and finally given up, and bought a shepherd's whistle to do this with. How many times a day/what session lengths would you recommend? Our dog is a 8month BC/Toller mix and has quite the learning capabilities. I will definitely just add this in throughout the day, but I'm thinking of maybe adding a session a day?

[@tonycruse3648]

Walk in a field once a day. Pip and treat and release him back. Do this twenty times in a thirty minute field walk.

[@definitelynotashark1799]

Thanks! We haven't had such a high frequency because I was unsure how much was "too much" :) But I'll just increase it then.

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

I train recall by whistling--- the key is no repeating command as backgound noise like the first part of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOuhn9ne7afqtU Later I teach a silent recall...if I stop, my lab checks in: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGHIaWCvmbSSY6s I do not use a leash or long line up here in Alaska.

[@emilymanzi-wicken7307]

My dog did so well with this over the last few months! However the last two three weeks she has not been answering or comes back but just runs past me not interested in the treat. Not sure what to do now any recommendations?

[@crystalosinoski9585]

Tony -- I hope you still check this. I am going to try this as my dog has huge recall problems. Can you let me know where to get this whistle, or will any dog whistle work. I only have a regular sports whistle at present. Will that work or should I only start when I can get a "gunner" whistle (is that what you called it?). I live in the states and I haven't seen a whistle like that one.

[@CrueLoaf]

Good question. An Acme Gundog whistle is ideal. Any frequency but make a note of the frequency, in case you loose it. They are fab whistles and come in a variety of colours. I've also recently discovered a long line made by Julius-K9. Very soft for the hands. Choose a 10m line though.

[@Neil2022]

Great video. A question though. Do you always have to reward the dog/puppy even when it's a learned behaviour after training ?? Or once learned as an adult will it be there for life?

[@tonycruse3648]

Hiya. Good question. No, you can substitute the food treats or the toy for a 'free life reward'. That is being released to go back to what you called the dog way from and maybe adding some fuss and attention. Plenty more rewards out there! ;) It doesn't harm to reinforce it once in a while with food though, some folks feed their dogs meals in this way which could be considered better than given it to them for nothing (it disappears in 30 seconds in a food bowl). See the food as a payment…if you like it…pay up! Dog's don't usually work for free..

[@jeanstork8085]

Where would I find the video on long line training please?

[@CrueLoaf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qF7QenibmayIi5I

[@mattneumann571]

How often do you train during the week? Is it everyday for a few times? Every other? Does it matter?

[@CrueLoaf]

Matt Neumann short but frequent sessions are best. Training can be done easily during a walk or a park trip. Basically, a dog is always learning so little things can be added. Doesn’t have to be a chore. 😉

[@mattneumann571]

@@CrueLoaf Ok great thanks. I thought she was progressing fast and really getting it until today when she decided to quit listening to it when she snuck over the fence. Backing it back up to stage two and moving forward!

[@CrueLoaf]

It's never going to be 100% reliable. No recall is. But it will be the best recall you can have.

[@nickcollop260]

Is it alright to train two dogs together or should I train individually?

[@nickcollop260]

Just seen someone else asked this, got my answer thank you!!

[@CrueLoaf]

Personally I would condition the whistle separately. Until they respond to it. Then you can recall them together and even use a little competition. First dog to return gets the treat. 👍🏻

[@tjsoyleroglu3609]

What is the whistle that u use

[@CrueLoaf]

Tj Soyleroglu Acme Gundog whistle. Frequency doesn’t really matter imo. Incidentally, Acme made the the first UK police whistle in 1883!

[@tamarabates9538]

How long after training would you stop giving a treat?

[@CrueLoaf]

Once it becomes reliable you can start fading the treats and giving intermittently. Swap rewards to a toy or simply praise and allow the dog back to what you called him away from. It must always be rewarding for the dog though, dog must enjoy returning! :)

[@PatrickR216]

Can you share a link to the type of whistle you are using please?

[@tonycruse3648]

Patrick Roberts Hi Patrick. It's a Acme Gundog whistle (see Amazon or Ebay). Any frequency, any colour will do. Enjoy your training. Tony.

[@PatrickR216]

Tony Cruse My 2 dogs are in the third week of this recall response training using this simple and effective video. The results so far have been outstanding and I am thoroughly impressed with my dogs. I have been using lean hamburger meat and hotdogs as rewards. My question is, when they are fully trained can I switch back to my regular dog treats? Will they get bored of the treats and ignore the whistle? I don't plan on carrying hotdogs and hamburgers everywhere, so what happens if they respond to the whistle and get nothing but verbal praise?

[@tonycruse3648]

Patrick Roberts Hi Patrick, Once you get a reliable quick recall as close to 100% as possible (no recall is 100%), you can start being random. A piece of hotdog, a piece of your dog's usual meal (dry food is great for this). Many of my customers feed their dogs in this way. Breakfast in the park after each recall. Be random and with multi dogs…you can reward the first one back. Create a bit of competition. Other rewards can be a) simply allowing the dogs back from what you called them away from. b) having a brief game with a toy or c) blow the whistle, turn and run in the other direction…allow the dogs to chase you. After the third week you can start being random, occasionally give loads of praise and release them back. Always touch their collars before you release them back…at some point you'd obviously clip the lead back on but you'd need to hold the collar to do that. Start mixing it up now and have fun!

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

I don't use a lead or long line, since I hunt my lab in the uplands. I use kibble to condition pups to whistle recalls: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOuhn9ne7afqtU

[@CrueLoaf]

Long lines are needed more than ever right now with social distancing being so crucial. The other video on the longline...kzbin.info/www/bejne/qF7QenibmayIi5I

[@TheJazminv1986]

So after the dog has had full training do you still have to reward him with a treat every time you call him with the whistle?

[@tonycruse3648]

Jazmin Villalobos It depends on how highly you value the recall. You could whistle him away from a safe distraction (smelly patch of grass or friendly dog?), touch his collar and send him back to the distraction. It's a free reward! But every now and again you may need to re-condition the whistle using tasty food if necessary. One morning a week take your dog's breakfast with you, for example. I was at a conference recently and it was thought that a food reward for one in every three recalls was a good ratio. For the other two...lots of fuss and allow the dog to return from what you called him from (if appropriate).