Dark Souls Lore - The Ringed City

Dark Souls III Lore - The Ringed City, Darkeater Midir & Shira
In this video, we'll be talking about the story and characters of the Dark Souls finale - the Ringed City, including why the city was founded, when and where it exists, and the characters Darkeater Midir and Shira. What about Gael? Next time!
Fear not the Miyazaki, my friends. And let the lore be confirmed.
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[@raimethefumeknight2062]

Ringed knight ultragreatsword users are the true final bosses of the DLC. Better prepare my Gael greatsword...

[@Hug0Pro]

nah, splitleaf is the baaaaaawwwws here you peasants! xD you can one shot fools with a 4 hit true combo. ;) love it. With my 97 ligthning protection shield (ligthning arrows are nothing), and my insane regen (items, poisons, and ocasional hits get completely nullified after 20 secs.)

[@adudeontheinternet4433]

Raime The Fume Knight Dude just quickstep and backstab them with the dagger.

[@shadowhacks35]

Disappointingly easy boss then :(

[@Killing_Edge]

Karl S. Not everyone wants to use a bitch ass dagger. Quickstep is almost as cancerous as ringed knight bitch swords.

[@Jonzi310]

Well, my pyromancer with iron flesh-sacred flame-combo knocks them out of the skies pretty fast... literally... ;)

[@pizzamozzarella3005]

"Fear not the dark my friend" HA I HAVE A TORCH BITCH, COME AT ME TOMB OF GIANTS!!!

[@randominternetuser2599]

But Sunlight Maggot is better.

[@SilverMont]

Maggot is decent, but cast light is the best of all!

[@XDRONIN]

Silver Mont, just to propose an alternative, here is my theory.. - At the beginning of the Ring City DLC, what is the one thing we (the player) are doing?.. We are following Gael, remember the message signs with Gael's image, it was Gael who left the signs for us to follow. So, trough out the DLC, we are following on Gael's foot steps, until we reach Princess Filianore, who has a cracked open egg with her. What was inside the egg?.. the Dark Soul.. Who cracked the egg?.. I think Gael cracked open the egg and he killed Filianore for the Dark Soul. Now, there are two enemies we meet at area where the dead body of Filianore is.. One is Gael, who already consumed the Dark Soul of man and is busy eating the rest from the Dark Lords left and the other is Shira, who is hunting for the one responsible for Filianore's dead and as she says it.. "I've searched for thee,.. Dark Stricken creature" I think, Shira is looking for Gael but, she thinks we are responsible for Filianore's dead, after all; Shira confined herself inside a temple and never saw who was responsible for Filianore's dead. All that we really did was break the illusion by touching the already cracked open egg.

[@CC42_]

That's a good one that I haven't seen anyone else put forth ..good job

[@XDRONIN]

thank you

[@brucehc4975]

Theres also a ringed knight that drops the duel paired greatswords, and that one pygmy that's missing his lower half.

[@yikes6969]

The egg is already cracked and deteriorated when we get there and we finish it off and Filianore is still alive at that moment so Gale couldnt break and kill her. None of that stuff lines up

[@XDRONIN]

@@yikes6969 Wow, 6 years ago a) I said it was just an alternative theory b) Filioanore is an Illusion, much like Gwynevere was in Dark Souls one c) And if you actually read carefully, you will notice that I did say that the egg was already cracked, *and the point is* that you dispelled the illusion when you touched the cracked egg d) And you don't have to agree with me, and you are free to make your own theory

[@takezokimura2571]

Maybe Midir´s soul is actually just a mass of humanity. See as how the soul is completely black, even the core. Meanwhile Artorias´ soul is black but the core is still white.

[@OnTheSpaceShip]

It is. Ancient Dragons don't have souls, because they are neither alive nor dead. Midir's Souls is like you said a mass of darkness and humanity that he consumed.

[@zionthedragon8866]

Except that's not what humanity is, nor how souls work. Plus, like seath, he was GIFTED his soul, and being that he is where the DARK soul resides, of course the core would be dark.

[@shadoweddragonfilms4424]

9:10 Ok, that picture is actually amazing. No other word for it.

[@SilverMont]

Isn't it?

[@SemNome-ds1qy]

Looking to the Lore of DarkSouls Series, you see the Dragons are not so Bad. Gwyn and the other Lords killed them without mercy. Phearps thats why Gwyn's First Born leave everything.

[@SilverMont]

They never did elaborate on why Gwyn wanted to wipe out the dragons - I guess they were leaving that up to us. But so far as we know, they just sat there being all immortal.

[@Garl_Vinland]

They "Challenged" the dragons. I think they were jealous of the immortality of dragons. They took over their surface world and struggled to rule over it as immortals. Practically everyone in the Dark Souls universe covets immortality, to the point where people even wish to become dragons themselves.

[@KaiserAfini]

Matheus Esteves Monteiro I believe humans could become dragons, giants/archtrees, pigmys or gods. After all, if with fire came disparity, then everyone was the same, human. Dragons and archtrees evolved after fire came to be and before it was discovered. So Gwyn's war was to destroy all who had any hope of contesting the god's role as apex predators. Except afterwards he couldn't get rid of the pigmys, them being immortal, so he started to get desperate and taking desperate actions. The rest is history.

[@ianmaluk1]

It's like the American indians and the First Colonists.

[@98Dreadboy]

Thirst for power, Gwyn found power in his lord soul but that wasn't enough for him.

[@KingFancy]

After all Gwyn has done...... they expect us to feel bad for him?

[@98Dreadboy]

I don't know, it's just like how I felt bad for Vendrick after he realised what he had done in attack the giants.

[@KingFancy]

I mean I guess but.... the curse shouldn't of even been a thing so many people could've been fine if it weren't for Gwyn

[@98Dreadboy]

That is the question though, was humanity fine before Gwyn branded them with the dark sign? Or is it destructive in it's nature?

[@98Dreadboy]

I don't know man, I thought it was funny or something haha.

[@goldenfantasy9251]

Fire heals curse and stops immortality.

[@LoveLove-eo9os]

darkeater midir boss fight, more like, hitting a fucking rock for 2 hours.

[@SilverMont]

Right?

[@takezokimura2571]

"I´m undead. I can hit my head on a rock until it breaks." - Marcus, one of my characters.

[@iggytheincubus]

"Challenging in the same way breaking brick walls with your flaccid penis is challenging" ~Honest Trailers And yeah it took me approximately an hour to beat Midir in NG+ Never managed it in NG

[@deldarel]

As with all of Gwyn's gifts, I think it's the soul he got that made him do the gods' bidding. There's always a trick to his gifts, like the Ringed City meant to contain humanity, same with the four kings containing the humans in New Londo. Seath was made a duke of a library, not really a place where many people live. Gwyn's way of locking him up away from Anor Londo without making it look like a punishment. Gwyn is the kind of guy who'd give you deodorant for your birthday.

[@feralcatboy7628]

Midir is a pure little dragon.

[@KaiserAfini]

I have a theory about why the blood of the dark soul was dry. When the Abyss Watchers linked the fire, the wolf blood dried up and Farron became a swamp overnight. So my theory is that Ludleth was a pigmy lord, when he linked the fire, the blood of the other lords dried up, since they, much like the watchers, draw power from a single fragmented soul, in this case, the dark soul. That is what made the swamp in the city streets appear, so quick was the change that we can still find corpses clinging to the top of buildings in an attempt to avoid drowning. And Filianore's life giving power kept the city's ruin from becoming absolute.

[@eemelisaurila9940]

KaiserAfini I really like this theory thank you for sharing it

[@bradleyallen6883]

KaiserAfini Wow. Yeah. It might also explain the pus of man. The corrupted humanity breaching the hollow. Since we all have a piece of the Dark Soul, maybe that's its way of reviving itself. Like Blood congealing. The old blood. 😱 Always had a feeling we were missing vital information about Ludleth, and we are still no where close.

[@KaiserAfini]

Glad you liked it, there are some pretty interesting details in the DLC left to explore. For example, remember how the purging stones were made in Dark Souls 1 ? They were former humans to which we transfer curses to. The purging monument is composed of skulls and we see the mound maker's pile has skulls and vertebra shackles, the monument anchor's Lapp's sanity and the mound anchors Hodrick's (more or less). So perhaps Hodrick and the Mound Makers were trying to make their own monument. Now what conclusions can be drawn about the founder, and by extension his katana, is something I am still pondering.

[@KaiserAfini]

One last detail, remember what Ludleth said about the eyes of a fire keeper ? "We did all we could to spare her from them". Does he mean Filianore ? Her eyes are missing, her crown is like that of a fire keeper. So perhaps she did or rather threatened to do something against the gods and in favor of the pigmys, Ludleth was still loyal to Gwyn, had the eyes taken from her and taken to hidden area in Firelink, but one day they "went missing" only to return when we deliver them from the past.

[@SilverMont]

Where was it Ludleth was supposed to hail from? "Courland" or something, right? Shame we knew so little about it.

[@TheBrclear66]

Could midir getting a soul be from him ingesting the dark? By eating the dark he consumed humanity and over time this created a sense of self which then created his soul?

[@sofreddy7]

The way you put makes it sound more beautiful. And subsequently more tragic.

[@slightlytwistedagain]

Yes. His name heavily hints at it. Dark Eater Midir. The Chasm also looks kinda similar to the location of what looks like the first flame in the intro of DS1. I theorize that the gods couldn't find a way to eliminate the Dark so they decided to contain it by getting Midir to eat it. We know dragons can change form through corruption (Gaping Dragon changed form through gluttony) and we can see the dark crystals coming out of Midir's body and may have even gave Midir that Dark laser blast. Also Midir is a big nod to 2016 Shin Godzilla which funnily enough is a creature of radioactive corruption.

[@jamalgumbs7518]

Makes sense, the look of his soul suggests this as it looks like humanity.

[@TheBrclear66]

I've been reading a LOT of philosophy recently

[@SilverMont]

It would make some amount of sense, yeah. Depends on what exactly he was eating - were they feeding him chunks of humanity? Or was it like... bits of the abyss?

[@Blightblues7]

I think the fact that the egg Fillianore is holding looks like one of the vagrants from the first dark souls is really intriguing. Since they were always so rare and unimportant in that game I think they were pretty much written off from being anything significant, but if you think about it they were really interesting. The fact that one of the few ways to spawn them was by a lot of humanity being dropped or lost at once suggests a connection to the dark soul, and they fact that they will continue to travel to other worlds until killed shows that they are one of the few creatures that can travel the different worlds. Maybe that egg is a vagrant that continued to grow as it traveled many different worlds, gaining the power to trap the entire ringed city and remove it from time? That would certainly align with Gwyns desire to eliminate humanity as a potential threat to his rule, removing the strongest members of the dark soul lineage and eliminating their history, giving him the power to lie to all future humans and manipulate them into continuing the age of fire. I don't know if its just meant as a call back or cool Easter egg, but I think the presence of that egg could have some really cool implications on the nature of vagrants and their impact on the world.

[@KaiserAfini]

So why is it rotting ? What is even that rot ? And more importantly, how can Filianore keep pressing her weigh against it but even our slightest touch causes it to crumble ?

[@SilverMont]

Yeah, it's one of those things where I can't help but wonder if it's intentional or not. Logically, there should be a reason it's a little like the vagrants. On the other hand... it's a bit of a stretch. By and large, I think it's just a coincidence. Or an easter egg!

[@raistmajere7477]

Or it's just the egg Midir came out of.

[@Battleguild]

Silver Mont It still irks me that From didn't take the Nioh approach to Vagrants, by having a shade of a dead player with their equip loadout as a rare encounter.

[@shywoofer1620]

True Sunbros at the end of the Midir fight, letting you get that juicy riposte ;)

[@ergothgamingfillername5202]

I think that the reason the armor displays a "smidgen of life" is because it contains some of the last vestiges of the Flame in which the Dark Soul was found. And it was forged using these tiny flames because it was all they had. The Witches had their mighty Fire Sorceries, Gwyn and his Silver Knights had lightning, and Nito had his withering plagues. What did the pygmies have? One soul split among many, many people. So they returned to the Flame, and fashioned weapons and armor from it. Notice that in every game, the Abyss and the First Flame both are always underground, and the "Abyss" in the Ringed City is eerily similar to the cavern where the First Flame was found. So why did Gwyn not recognize that the weapons and armor of humanity was forged from the Flame? Simple, he did. He saw what it was, and was terrified of how humanity had turned "his" Fire into something that could be used against him one day. We know weapons once in service to the gods can be turned against them, look at how Divine Weapons in DS can become Occult Weapons, weapons built to kill the Gods. So Gwyn sees humanity, creatures with a soul which is the antithesis of his own, clad in the dull sparks of the First Flame, a flame that one day will fade and become Dark. So he seals the flame into the armor and humanity, binding it's power to them and turning the pygmies into a slow-burning fuel for their own weapons and armor. By doing so, he has forced them to either bow to the Darksign, or throw away their weapons and armor, leaving themselves defenseless. Remember, at this time Sorcery, hexes, and even things like the Dark itself either didn't exist or were not well-known. The only things Humanity could arm itself with was fire, lightning, death, and metal. So they accepted the brand so as to not be slain by the dragons outright, and we know what happens from there...

[@JoeNeutrino]

Pepe-on-a-Stick is indeed the ultimate weapon.

[@brianmead7556]

Git TENDIES!

[@fivnawk8873]

I love that thumbnail, it's so adorable

[@ThatOldWarthog]

Oh my god, now I'll never be able to unsee the Crucifix of the Rare Pepe "CASULS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEE"

[@wingedflyingforce5139]

I believe, if you look at it, the egg was dark eater midir, I know it's mainly based on beserker, but I believe Game of thrones may have had a influence, as well as the legend of a girl and her wyvern. I believe they hid the fact a god's daughter, was not only to hid his fears of change, but the fact that she wanted a Dragon. I mean look at the nameless king, another child of the god. He was erased from history, to where his name was lost, JUST for ridding with dragons. And look at the daughter, almost no one knows about her, and she had what might of been a dragon egg, which is one reason why she may have been also locked away. As for the soul to midir, just like in the legend of the wyvern of Maud, but with a twist. In the legend of maud, her parents promise she can keep it, but one night she hears them say they will kill it why she sleeps. The twist version I believe for this version in DS3, is that she keeps the egg, sleeps, but never awakes to stop her parents from taking her egg, so they give midir a soul, not as a reward, but a tool to soak up all the dark, then, when it's all gone, they can kill two birds (midir, & dark (aka threat to gwyn's age of fire/light)) with one stone, then keep her asleep to not have her wrath apon them, or to keep her from crying to death, which in some versions of the wyvern story, maud does do.

[@BallsTheDog]

But what the hell was that skull in ash lake, WE STILL DON'T KNOW

[@eemelisaurila9940]

Balls The Dog god every time someone mentions it I just laugh a little because of plague of gripes video "dark souls lore" it's the best

[@jipowap]

Balls The Dog Well look at the wording of Priscilla. Cross-"breed". Man and dragons are two of the same kind. At one point an ancestor of both or a crossbreed got HUEG souls. A true giant, half as tall as an archtree.

[@SilverMont]

It was Doug's skull

[@dalton411970]

That skull belongs to my dad.

[@brianmead7556]

My theory is that it's from another cycle, another age. It looks like one of Vamos's folk. Dark Souls isn't meant to have hard answers to everything.

[@rafirodriguez1632]

Omg silver mont I'm sooooo exited you made this video and I've been awaiting for it for awhile and I know I'm not the only one so thanks for the video I know I'll enjoy it

[@bidogobedelhobadalo6263]

aw boy, i miss those silvermont lore videos. keep them coming brother. kind regards from brazil.

[@randomguy3849]

The only person to make Dark Eater Midir to look huggable and not a hard to beat annoying son of a bitch

[@Bazonkaz]

I think Midir consumed so much dark that it enveloped into a soul

[@arturocrespo3699]

Hisoka X Huntah that's exactly what happened

[@zionthedragon8866]

@@arturocrespo3699 that's not exactly what happened.

[@JarredMallard]

Sihn gained a soul after spending time next to a child of dark but the template for it was probably from sir yorgh which is why you get his spear when you give it to ornifex.

[@SonnyBA1]

Holy crap that artwork was great, is always a treat to see the artists work in these videos, too damn cute and funny. XD Gives these videos its unique charm.

[@sibren9874]

Clicked because of baby Midir

[@Gh0StF1sHy]

Just wanna say I love your videos; you're kickin' butt, for sure. Keep up the good work : ) On another note, Shira, and Midir are some of my favourite characters in DS3.

[@mgarza1468]

The new painted world takes place in a realm with advanced technology, painted in blood. born in blood... Bloodborne?

[@elleowo]

That fkn midir and shira pic m8 is 2 cute

[@megakazuya123]

Dude I love your videos man

[@SilverMont]

Thanks pal, that's awesome to hear

[@lu-chan1745]

I really like the drawings in your lore videos :3

[@SilverMont]

Me too!

[@ButcherGod]

I really want to know why the Milwood Knights were battling Midir before they ended up in the painted world. Cause didn't a piece of their gear mention their struggle against a Dragon of the Abyss or somewhere along those lines? So were the Milwood Knights near the Ringed City before?? Cause it never made sense to me that they fought Kalameet since there was no signs of them anywhere near Oolacile.... it's so confusing -_-

[@bradleyallen6883]

ButcherGod Maybe The Ringed City was their original home. Filianore and her stead is blessed with the symbol of fresh grass. The Millwood knights left after something happened to their world tree. Sure, Gwyn "gifted" the Pygmies a new home. Either that, or their tree was the Cursed Rotted Greatwood, but I feel like the Undead Settlement was definitely not their home. Good question.

[@98Dreadboy]

That's interesting actually, it must have been Midir. Isn't Ariandel the place of forlorn creatures?

[@SilverMont]

Yeah, that description does somewhat fit with Midir. I was under the assumption that their original home began succumbing to the abyss, so Shira sent Midir over to gobble it. Could be they lived in the Ringed City or near it - or could be that it was a different dragon altogether, but I think that'd be odd.

[@acehughj4527]

Gobble it lol that made me laugh idk why but midir seems rather cute honestly

[@Cracked_Moon]

*Back-Stabbing Midir Update:* I managed to land squarely on his back between the shoulders, in an attempt to see if Midir could be 1H-KO like the Ancient Wyvern, but it only added some extra fall damage bumping a typical 200~ dmg to around 500 or so. Not sure if landing on Midir's head works, which would be the preferred fall strike location, but I haven't made a successful landing there, so... Eh.

[@snaw3237]

I think that the Shrine of Darksouls 1 is where the Demon Prince arena is because there ae a few "Walls" like from the Firelinkshrine and there where you get to the Ringed City is the Room where Frampt where and so you are under the Firelinkshrine!

[@mrdonvictor117]

i love your illustrations they're so funny

[@SilverMont]

Not mine, but I like 'em too!

[@quabbygappler1433]

Something strange I noticed was Filianore at the very end shows up as a phantom if you're summoned to fight Gael. not just a piece of set dressing

[@SilverMont]

Huh. When she's old/dead?

[@michaelr5361]

Awesome vid, wish I could like more.

[@zacoliver5547]

Personally I don't think that there is an illusion innthe ringed city like in Anor Londo, because when you warp back to the bonfire after the Spear of the church fight and go up again to Filianore, she is gone. Her corps is just in the future. But that is just my interpretation ;)

[@SicariitheConqueror]

Fine I'll give you a shot don't disappoint you keep popping up on my feed

[@SilverMont]

Hopefully it won't disappoint

[@danielwheels9529]

Amazing vid

[@edkopik]

the cover art got me like "awww"

[@shaunrodriguez8556]

New sub,gotta start watching your videos more

[@SilverMont]

Naturally!

[@danaban9212]

Patches is the furtive pygmy.

[@jona.o8098]

Daniel Hayes mind blown

[@danroman5931]

Silver Mont, I am so enthralled by your voice. You could make a 2h video, i will watch it in a go and still click next video.

[@darianwright9488]

Shira's cute... but Orbeck is still best waifu.

[@I_am_a_cat_]

The shattering of the egg put out such immense power, that it flung us far into the future and caused all the years filianore had been there to instantly "age" her to what she should have been. Time travel happens alot in dark souls. Obviously it happens to us too. I just wish we could have seen the pygmy lords at their peak of power :(

[@cynicalmage4840]

Just realized... her halberd looks a lot like the Roaring Halberd from the skeleton kings in Dark Souls 2.

[@SilverMont]

Huh, interesting.

[@justnick7691]

I'm pretty sure the egg is a reference to a quote from the first game about whether you should rekindle the flame or "break the yolk" and snuff it out. The egg being broken means that the age of dark is here and she's still asleep because Gwyn didn't last.

[@truthofdsp]

Amazing video my friend as always, but alas, I do believe that vati cracked the case.

[@sonicsucks2961]

Ok my friends slave knight gaels soundtrack is just the best mates................

[@Ali-ul5ws]

I feel like the egg Filianore holds is continuing the gods' cycle, that is why the four great souls keep finding new hosts and why the main characters of dark souls 1 still have an influence on the ages that proceed them, and in breaking the egg it undoes everything the old gods "created" after they died. The reason lothric kingdom is so prominently there at the worl's end is because they didn't want to link the fire and rejected the will of the old gods (at least lothric did, and in doing so forced the kingdom to) *also I call it an egg cuz idk what it actually is

[@luvlols4462]

The emerald herald in DS2 was part dragon and talks like Shira. I think she's a similar creation by Seath

[@commanderpreacherlocust1439]

My video better be filled to the brim with theory's monty

[@SilverMont]

+Preacher locust I dunno if I wanna make a video on your raving glostick wielding ass!

[@thealgerian3285]

7:10 She hasn't even considered naming the painting after Gael. That's cold, man.

[@micheler4120]

I think she mentions Gael to inhabit the painting, a gentle home, but naming it after you is an acknowledgement in bringing the pigment to her.

[@SilverMont]

In fairness, she probably doesn't really know what he's gone through, for her. We've all been there!

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

4:43 you moved to the end and the beginning the age of gray (probably ash?) where the where it all began and where it all ends just like dark souls 1 where before the age of fire was an age of gray just like where you find Gael a place full of ash and that is gray(mostly).

[@emilianonuke]

Do you make your own art? It's a question I've always had... if you do, well, that's pretty dope. Keep up with the good content

[@Thru1n]

www.redbubble.com/de/people/natuprunk

[@SilverMont]

I do not - Crowd linked to the artist's page, and that should be in most of my video's descriptions.

[@emilianonuke]

Oh, thanks, I usually check description for links but I guess I missed it the first time I checked so I assumed it was you. Anyway, thanks for the response

[@LindenHS-Hillcraft]

Maybe the egg is the world... and touching it made it finally crumble away?

[@SilverMont]

That'd be very abstract/bizarre. Reminds me of that anime done by the FF artist dude. Tenshi something? Angel egg?

[@LindenHS-Hillcraft]

...I think thats right? I forgot about that anime in all honesty.

[@Lynch2507]

Wonder who would win outta all the Knight enemies in DS. Black knights VS Silver Knights VS Sayn Knights VS Outrider Knights VS Lothric knights VS Ringed Knights. My votes on the ringed,

[@ArmouredProductions]

Don't forget Balder & Berenike Knights!

[@koreshura641]

What about Heide Knights? :>

[@jooot_6850]

Harald Knights take the cake. By far. They are insanely tanky and hit like a bus

[@optimuspirate7735]

You find an ancient dragon soul in DS2 when you go into the memory in Freja boss room

[@okami8880]

So when here's my look onto what the painter says when she tells us she hat our name is so she can name her painting what I think is that our champion of ash is the one and only areamis and that painting was sent back to the past because ds has always been know to have that link to the past tid bit but if that were the case then the end for the ringed city would be the beginning of it all and that would mean Gael and th champion of ash are both the prime evil man

[@okami8880]

Ignore the when in there my phone is messing up

[@ronniedark]

gerzain gomez I think this is why Dark Souls is always referred to as a 'cycle' rather than a timeline.

[@andrewnavarro6697]

What's that smell? not a sequel for dark souls...

[@21awesome]

What's that smell, ah yes, the end of Soulsborne.

[@andrewnavarro6697]

the ending.. it's enough to make a man sick

[@ButcherGod]

I don't smell it. That painting we are left with seems like perfect spin off material. Seeing as how they even say it would be separated from the endless cycle that Souls is based on.

[@andrewnavarro6697]

ahhhh the sweet intoxicating aroma... of hope

[@kylemcmurray806]

Maybe the time was to early for Kaathe to be aware of her purpose, or just renounced her since she had ties to Gwyn. It could be she wasn't a threat after all she was sleeping. But then again you get to the Ringed City by the help of the Batwing Demons maybe the three of them weren't strong enough to pick up Kaathe to bring him there o-) hehe

[@kevinhixson1586]

I think londor was in a time bubble as in to them they where still in the age of fire but when fillianore is awakened the bubble is broken and time moves forward only for the city there's more to it but this is a summary

[@jipowap]

Any chance if giving Filianore the Firekeeper's Eyes and transposition kiln? Seems like a thing that should be possible.

[@SilverMont]

I don't believe you can interact with her at all, beyond smashing her egg

[@t.b.thelwell3366]

Hey Silver Mont do you think that you would like to do lore videos about Anime/Manga? Because I think that your story telling and theories with you voice, along with those adorable chibi like images/drawings in the background would suit well with this idea of mine for you.

[@SilverMont]

It's not anything I've ever considered! I guess it would depend on the series - I like making these for things that I feel you can have a good discussion on. That's why I also made videos for Destiny/FFXV as I felt they had a lot of things to talk 'bout. With anime/manga? I could see it being possible, but it would have to be the right series. There aren't too many that I watch currently. I guess I could do one about Dragonball haha. "What the hell is wrong with power levels."

[@t.b.thelwell3366]

Silver Mont Now that "What the hell is wrong with power levels", one sounds like a pretty nice idea for one. I also suggest you checking out anime/manga like "Berserk", "Tokyo Ghoul", "Elfen Lied" and "Attack on Titan" if you haven't already checked these ones out for this possible idea.

[@robertwilson2516]

glad to see your lore skills are​ still in top form. I also gotta say that your Midir footage shows just how unecisarily tedious that boss really was.

[@SilverMont]

Hah, yeah it does. I tried not to look at it. Just went "I need footage of Midir. Should I use my LP footage or my solo footage?" And tossed a coin.

[@robertwilson2516]

Silver Mont Ah ha ha ha ha i can only imagine how many times you died on your solo run i lost count for mine at seven and i was going to town on him with a fully upgraded black knight sword.

[@gordonmarshall5980]

Kaathe didnt mention the Ringed City because Miyazaki hadn't gotten around to conceiving it :P

[@sephyrias883]

4:35 The time after touching the egg can't be further in the future than the fight aganst Soul of Cinder, since Lothric Castle still stands during the fight against Gael, but is completely distorted in Dreg Heap and at the Kiln. This is very odd, since we were basicly walking from Dreg Heap to the Ringed City earlier. It completely breaks the visual storytelling. 6:35 Not quite. We don't know how much of the Dark Soul Kaathe had collected (nor do we know what he did with it). We also don't know how much the Pigmy Lords carry in comparison to Manus. 7:30 The problem with the Painting is, that we don't know what it really does. It could just be another wallhanger with a small world inside of it, which starts to fall apart when the painting falls apart. Also: Will the girl's painting stay inside the other Painting and burn away with it, or will the Ashen One take it outside, where it also falls apart ove time? by the way, I think you're trying to push the "soft talk" a bit too much near the end 11:35

[@Pie_Smacker]

I do believe our old serpent friend, or one of the unnamed ones at least, did wind up in the Ringed City. The massive serpent we find, the reason there isn't any more, and why we can't find any, is because should a serpent enter the city, the ring knights will uphold their ancient battle honor, or whatever you want to call it, and kill them, much like how we found the dead serpent

[@zionthedragon8866]

What dead serpent, and where SPECIFICALLY in the ringed city is it's corpse?

[@joelberdecia2626]

So, Silver Mont, are all furtive pygmies Pepe?

[@SilverMont]

+joel berdecia Only the ones that go mad

[@lordmoldybutt6361]

Do you have a patreon? I've never donated to anyone but I wanna contribute to you.

[@SilverMont]

I do! There's also a KZbin membership thing which offers similar perks. www.patreon.com/SilverMont

[@crashman1344]

Kaathe did say in DS1 that Gwen obscured our past. I don't think that it was a retcon so much as Miyazaki having to clarify and expand what he had in mind back then.

[@SilverMont]

Potentially, but I also think it's relatively obvious that he never planned on making a sequel - which means they were kinda forced to shoe-horn in some things that don't make too much sense.

[@Cracked_Moon]

I heard some of the cut content for the Ringed City depicted, or had rumors of, Ringfinger Leonhard. Shame they scrapped the idea. Figure he probably would have become a divine spear in honour of his new waifu, Fialianore, since Leo just can't get enough of big women.

[@SilverMont]

He has a Giantess fetish

[@filiplaskovski9993]

Look at the egg once it’s crumbled, it’s got the same crystal substance that coats dark eater midir I think that’s his egg

[@boomerlizard3184]

The Pepe on a stick was hilarious

[@yunyunyunyunyunyun]

Alex, do I get access to Discord? :D?

[@SilverMont]

Supporting on Patreon should get you auto access to the channel - I have a plug-in /bot that automatically gives it, I think you just might need to link discord to Patreon somehow. If not, just let me know on Patreon and I'll sort it out.

[@Zatweeb]

Gwyn just don’t want any stranger to touch her egg He wants a good person for his child

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Fear not the dark my friend And let the feast begin😈

[@clarkkhalupsky5791]

The dark souls 1 intro needs to be remade to include the Pygmy/ringed knights. It would be cool to see them.

[@SilverMont]

That would be pretty cool, actually. "The witches unleashed great firestorms. The pygmies smacked the dragons and turned their heads into shields 'cos why not."

[@clarkkhalupsky5791]

Silver Mont Oh yeah, it would be great!

[@nightscout9979]

In regard to Filianore's "egg", that object looks remarkably similar to the Transposing Kiln, right down to the black, starry section within. It's possible that the Ringed City itself is the product of a constant transposition that FIlianore maintains, trapping the Pygmies within certain boundaries and perhaps even shaping the development (or lack thereof) of the Dark. Destroying the kiln (which seems to be wearing itself out as is) prevents Filianore from maintaining the false world. It's also possible that Filianore was made to transpose her own soul to create the Ringed City, which might explain why she appears to have so little energy left, even for the otherwise time-proof "gods", that she dies. Another possibility is that the Dark she was exposed to, or to be precise, the Dark that she was to keep weak, unhealthy, warped from its true potential, and ironically enough, Abyssal, eventually ripped her apart. Her eyes seem to have massive veins of Dark expanding from them, and a modder known as Bonfire VN has found that Filianore's eyes, when opened, just show a similar darkness. Finally, when the player finds the dead Filianore, her hair is still black, so it doesn't appear that she died of old age. Perhaps Gael killed her, perhaps she sacrificed herself to create the false city much like Gwyn eventually burned himself at the Kiln (though Filianore was truly expended), or perhaps she already died from the twisted Abyss and the Kiln was just barely operating itself at that point. Whatever the case, Gwyn definitely sacrificed his own daughter out of his paranoia and fear, and looking at how even the Nameless King (I'll just call him Faraam) was seemingly afflicted with the Darksign, this calls into question just how self-sacrificing Gwyn really was. By the time he had to head off to the Kiln, there might have been no one left to send instead. Filianore was already sacrificed to surpress the Pygmies and Faraam was an exile and perhaps burning in his own way. Gwynevere wasn't a fighter and was already too popular and known, effectively being a living symbol to rally around, with her husband, a flame god (Flann), getting to be the next successor to Gwyn. As for Gwyndolin, Gwyn spurned him and seemingly tried to lessen his importance as much as possible. In fact, by raising Gwyndolin as a daughter, that blocked him from ever actually getting to be the true ruler of Anor Londo, since all the societies in this medieval-inspired series (save for Izalith) seem to place kings as the ultimate figures. The Gwyn we ultimately encounter isn't even too far removed from the Gwyn of the opening cutscene; his arms are charred black just like when he was preparing a Lightning Spear, shades of how the Lord Souls burn the hands of their owners, and his sword is awash in the flames of his soul, just like in Gwyn's iconic pose in the intro. Perhaps Gwyn hadn't simply burned enough yet and Gwyndolin wanted to stick it to his father by engineering a champion to beat him, or perhaps Gwyn in part refused to burn himself as much as he would have another burn in his place. He's even melted and similar to metal or stone more than he is to burned, hollowed flesh. Moving back to the Ringed City, something I find interesting is that both Kalameet and Midir are a few of the only dragons in the series to have longer hind legs than they do front legs. The rest of the true Archdragons were like the Stone Dragon of Ash Lake, with much longer front legs than hind legs. They share this trait with Sinh in Dark Souls 2, which means that Midir and Sinh might have souls of their own due to being later descendants or parallel species to the Archdragons. While Kalameet doesn't bestow a soul, defeating him does result in the Calamity Ring, which certainly bears his likeness, one of his abilities (inflicted on the wearer who killed him), and is befitting of a partially mineral-based being. If Midir was granted a soul, that might defeat the point for why he was even made to eat the Abyss. Aside from the clear danger of his soul becoming corrupted, if that is what happened to Midir, the soul might grant sapience to some life forms. Considering how the Abyss is treated, especially by Gwyn, who sees the Dark as a whole as dangerous, Midir was basically born to be a living garbage compactor, and a sapient being might realize this and quite understandably rebel. As such, Midir's soul might be natural, and even the true Ancient Dragon in Dark Souls 2 (found in Freja's boss room) has a soul on its corpse when one travels back to the ancient past of fog and stone archtrees. The real Ancient Dragon is balanced in terms of its legs, but the hind legs do resemble those of Kalameet and Midir. A final element I find interesting is how consuming flesh, particularly of living beings, might be related to the Deep and curses. Looking at Aldrich, his cannibalism destroyed his body, and while he did unintentionally accumulate Humanity in him, similar to the rats of Dark Souls 1, the manner in which he acquired it seems to have corrupted it. This forms the Deep and Human Dregs, and due to Gael's methods of murder and cannibalism, as well as using blood as a medium instead of getting the true soul, the Painter's materials might end up being cursed instead of creating a world of comfort. Lokey_DS, a highly skilled fan translator, goes into the origin of the Deep with a fine comb on his Lokey Lore site, so that might make for a great read. Thanks again for this fun video! I've watched your stuff off and on for years. Sorry that this comment is so long, the Gwyn stuff wasn't planned, but those thoughts occurred to me after writing the first Filianore paragraph.

[@SilverMont]

Haha, no I know what you mean - that happens to me sometimes when I start writing lore videos. It's why a lot of my older ones get really rambly!

[@fartystinky]

fear not the dark,let the feast begin?..that last sentence veeeerrryyyy sounded like the eclipse feast

[@SilverMont]

Oh huh, it kinda does, you're right.

[@obansari]

I'm actually surprised no one has done an in depth look at Midir. He is actually rich with Lore

[@shadowmaster335]

god damn you silver mont you make me wanna buy the ringed city dlc even thou i never buy dlc's that don't add trophies (playing on ps4 btw)

[@SilverMont]

Trophies aren't that important, surely? I think this DLC adds a lot more to the game than a few trophies would, haha

[@shadowmaster335]

Silver Mont hmm im a trophy hunter, unfortunatly i need an external insentive to strive for to fully enjoy a game

[@kalebbartholomew9116]

On the topic of dragons having souls what about the dragon soul you get in the dragon memorie?

[@burezu9190]

"a long lost city filled with new Horace" So Horace was reborn in the ringed city? :D

[@burezu9190]

prob. rested at a bonfire there before we killed him

[@eemelisaurila9940]

ブレーズ I've been watching too much warhammer 40k lore videos I thought you said Horus

[@sleepyespurr2922]

If we have seen Gael more often in both the Ashes and Ringed City arcs, then he could have been a great character. But no one can beat Patches cuz he's Unbreakable.

[@ButcherGod]

Havel will break Patches like a bundle of sticks...

[@rimadichman7215]

last time i was this early was yesterday

[@benrogencamp258]

I bet you come early pretty often

[@heathenly_aesthetic7233]

There may have been a lot of swearing and rage here and there, but good LORD did I love the Ringed City dlc. 😍😆

[@mlgwombat7487]

I have a theory about midir. He could be seaths brother because he has crystals and one of his boss rewards is an old moonlight spell needs more research though

[@SilverMont]

His moonlight seems to differ from Seath's, though

[@MrMike2005]

Guys I don’t know about you but gaels sword in phase 1 looks longer and more white and broken but in phase 2 the sword turns dark and slightly fixed could it be that when the blood of the dark soul dropped on to the sword it corrupted the sword and Gael got some of his humanity back there may be a link

[@Helchilde]

I was under the impression that ancient dragons were not actually able to breath fire. Therefore any dragon that can breath fire is not a true ancient dragon. Before the first flame there was no concept of fire, and once the first flame ignited any dragon that came afterwards was tainted by the flame. So once Midir gained a soul by devoring Abyss/humanity he gained both the ability to breath fire and use the darkness of humanity.

[@SilverMont]

I think technically they aren't breathing "fire" but they do have breath attacks. Of course, the nearest we have to that would be Kalameet - there's conflicting information as to whether or not he's an "Ancient Dragon" but his breath attack is fire-like, but obviously not normal fire.

[@Helchilde]

Its probably a type of sorcery, similar to the sorceries of oolacille, but one that is inherit to dragons. The dragon head stone, if I remember correctly, releases a type of golden flame throughout the series.

[@Helchilde]

Its probably a type of sorcery, similar to the sorceries of oolacille, but one that is inherit to dragons. The dragon head stone, if I remember correctly, releases a type of golden flame throughout the series.

[@DarthRinzler]

I want to say I have a theory that I’m the very background I swear that one castle looks just like Drangleic Idn why but it does in the very end in the barren waste land I feel even if it isn’t they should add all kingdoms there sense it’s the convergence of all lands

[@D-Havoc]

Would the maneater shell be that cracked egg Filianora is sleeping with?

[@SilverMont]

Hmm, I don't think so - we don't know what they look like as "babies" though. You could bring up a comparison image between them, though. I believe the better comparison with DaS1 is vagrants, as her egg looks kinda like a vagrant. I think that is just a coincidence/easter egg, though.

[@maxmillianwiegel1643]

If the daughter of Gwyn is holding an egg, and if that egg requires another person to interact with it to change the world, isn't that like the crimson behelit griffith uses in Berserk? Wouldn't that mean something important about the egg in dark souls?

[@SilverMont]

Good point. As far as the actual egg goes, I think they mostly went for the imagery rather than any deep specific meaning behind it, Dark Souls kinda does that a lot.

[@matthewmartinez3907]

No wonder Midir got warped by the abyss if he ate dark fused whatnots it was gonna mess him up, I mean if you eat a zombie what do you think will happen Aside from reckin havoc to your insides?

[@SilverMont]

You'd have a mean time pooping

[@willlasseter9804]

What was that song of the girl

[@abstractl1fe253]

2:18 to 2:57 that camera slide🤣🤣

[@theonewhoismany8072]

I think that the ringed knights fought in the war against the dragons alongside the gods. But because the ringed knights armor and weapons that was forged in the abyss granted them so much power that they didn't needed gwyn's lightning to slay the dragons,by learning of the dark lord prophecy, by being so arrogantly bent on mantaining the rule of the gods, by being so arogant that he could not stand seeing humanity one day rule over the gods and by being so fearfull of the power of the humans and of what the age of darkness might be gwyn put the dark sign on the weapons and armour of the ringed knights to supress their power and deny us humans our birthright. Then he gave the pygmy lords the ringed city as a sign of aparent gratefulness for the help against the dragons but the truth is the ringed city was the same as the dark sign. A fiery ring meant to seal and keep us contained until the end of the world. As for his giving of filianore i think she has powers over time so she imprisoned the dark soul and the pygmy lords within the egg. Afer that gwyn put a spell on filianore so as long as she sleeps time will remain still in the ringed city and as long as filianore sleeps and time stays still the egg will not hatch keeping the dark soul and the pygmy lords sealed forever. Or so gwyn tought but the egg couldn't hold forever as we see it crumbled when we get to her. It seems gwyn made all in his power to deny the humans their rights and erase from history any contribution the humans might have had. To keep us supresed and mantain his rule. Not only that but by sacrificing himself to the fire thus linking our humanity to the first flame gwyn casted upon the entire humanity the same fiery ring that he casted upon the ringed knights thus giving birth to the curse of the undead. As for the reason he attacked the dragons is quite simple. He wanted the surface world all for himself.The gods and dragons could have coexisted but gwyn was far too arogant to share the glory of rulling over the world so either you are by his side and live or you stand against him and perish.Also he and the gods were envious of the dragons immortality knowing that for all the power they obtained they would die out one day. By killing the dragons gwyn fucked himself and us up. I think the only beings capable of fighting back against the abyss are the dragons. By being immortal they would consume the darkness of the abyss within themselves and after that the first flame would consume the darkness within them before they could be corrupted by it.

[@UmbrellaCorpTeam]

is the egg filianore has not a evil vagrant from dark souls 1?

[@SilverMont]

It looks kinda like a vagrant but I can't really see any connection beyond that, personally.