INTJ Consume Last Learning

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[@yootoob6003]

Filtering to criteria is a good point. I think one of my limits to efficiency is to try to consume multiple sources of information, trying them all, then filtering it down to 1 or 2. It takes a long time.

[@kindauncool]

+@naren456 Idk how other Ois do this but my job (put simply) is to detect which elements of a popular trend are new vs. old. I have a list of "keys" like the U.S. Election Predictor does. In most popular trends, although it seems to be a new thing altogether (how does the NPC tiktok challenge relate to the trend of posting yourself at a BLM protest?), **if you boil these things down to their basic keys** that unlock the door of virality, you'll find some similarities. (The broom challenge & posting BLM protest pics are = to social proof. The motivator for participating in this trend is that the bar to entry is low and you get a lot of attention if you can do it.) This is a simplified version, as my job has more moving parts, but that's the gist of it. You're lucky as an Oe since you don't get tired from doing all of the exploring. I'm lucky because the trends are given to me and I don't have to do the work of consuming hours of TikTok to find them myself.

[@ferenccsenkey3343]

What do you think about WiFi DAVE

[@FrownyMascot]

Starts it off with the INTJ Audio Clap too😂

[@anya-io1pi]

god i've felt so embarressed when i saw myself in this guy ahahahha, feeling cool giving people genius sleep blast advices and then not knowing how to live an ordinary life like this stuff with furniture and shit

[@dope_a_meen_bruh]

I’m a MM-Ni/Fi SB/P(C) and I agree 😂 and I CANT BELIEVE DAVE AND I AM WEARING THE SAME SHIRT AGAIN 🤣🤣🤣

[@caiden3396]

Consume: Observing oneself. Consume is used to do this differently than sleep, though. Sleep consists of interoception or with Oi in relation to one's Di (identity, T value, F value, etc.). In this guy's case, he's gathering concrete external stimuli related to himself. In the case of Nx consume, a person might observe (different action than perceive) patterns of themselves.

[@kindauncool]

Interoception.. do you mean "introspection"?

[@caiden3396]

@@kindauncool Interoception is the collection of senses providing information to the organism about the internal state of the body. If the mind is assumed to be part of the body, it includes mental stimuli.

[@kev0247]

I've been studying from Danaher's instructionals for like 5-6 years now and I always felt similar to him in some way. After some time I found out he was also an INTJ like me, and then everything made sense 😄.. Also, I believe Gordon is an ESTJ.

[@NovoRealismoBrasil]

I think this is exactly my type

[@phodilus2141]

i saw me, an intj, and my jumper istp partner in the last clip so accurately its scary.

[@merich623]

slay

[@CaveyMoth]

4:52 "Fumbly f***." I need to remember this.

[@SzaboB33]

I remember in high school I tried to learn juggling with 5 balls and for hours it I could not do it. Then I made a video and instantly saw the mistake and could do it for like 7-15 throws after just because of the recording. The planning and follow through in BJJ sessions are great but for me if I make an activity overly effective I will just tend to avoid it (I'm an ENTP or INTP, I dont know). I should go back doing BJJ, I have been missing for a year, lol. But when I do it, it's all I think about and it messes with my focus when I need to do other stuff.

[@ferenccsenkey3343]

I'm intp blast play last and i hate it when something works on first try. Olyan vicces hogy magyar ntpt látok itt rögtön egy órával a feltöltés után 😂

[@kindauncool]

"but for me if I make an activity overly effective I will just tend to avoid it" Hey, please go into more depth about this.

[@SzaboB33]

@@kindauncool I find myself love optimizing and exploring it by myself and once I arrive at that point and see no way forward the magic is lost and I lose interest. I can use this as a positive thing as well, for example: I can learn by trial and error (eg programming) and I can also end unhealthy gaming binges (eg in games I use cheat codes). Regarding to BJJ it is now way less often for me to see new stuff, although it happens quite often but the experience of having my "mind blown" are getting rarer (I am a blue belt) and given that I moved far away from the gyms its harder for me to go consistently. Other examples: I learnt some tech (react, svelte, android dev) and once I felt that I can implement anything using them I moved away because it's feels like just grinding from that point on. I tend to implement my ideas in something new to me and therefore I am not really in expert in any stack but that's okay.

[@SzaboB33]

@@ferenccsenkey3343 haha, szia! :D

[@SabrinaXe]

God I hate being a consume last. It’s so embarrassing when you get to see that part of yourself through somebody’s reflection

[@antipunt1]

8:40 I completely agree that this is probably your strongest skillset. Repetitive funneling and honing of a personal, subjective system. One of your largest Ti-Si errors, however, was not distinguishing your system as an independent entity from existing systems. This gets even more befuddled when you use shared definitions with said systems (AKA "cognitive functions", MBTI 4 letter labels, etc). Your earlier videos on imbalances and cognitive-function-definitions were also pretty consistently shared throughout the community. This gave people the perception that you were doing exactly what you claimed INTJs should be cautious with: "setting rules in fields outside their own area of expertise". In addition, “personality” is very unlike jujitsu because while the latter is established and pretty easy to define, human beings are akin to "Frankenstein's monster" with dangling bloody appendages. It’s not nearly as simple and easy to categorize as you’re making it out to be. You say there’s an “IP story”. An “EJ story”. “This is nothing new, we’ve seen it all before”. But you’re not accounting for SO many variables; this is called confirmation bias. What are they like in their private space 80% of the time? How much peacocking is occurring when they’re on camera vs at home? How old are they? My Fi-Te imbalance was INSANE in my teens, my patients and coworkers would never believe it. I also act extremely different at home with my wife in private vs outdoors (confirmed by her). These are all things that are very difficult to track. Unless OPS is willing to claim types can change with age and trauma (that would be fine), but that’s not the vibe I’m getting at all. Specifically, your strength is working with and utilizing the system that you've been shaping for years: OPS. Because of Ni/Se polar and Se-Fe blind, some INTJs can mistakenly assume that this is synonymous with 'understanding people holistically'. But this is very much not the case, and I think on some intuitive level you might even be aware of this. This is also why some villains in films/stories can manifest as a kind of INTJ stereotype. They mistakenly assume they know the "best" Te-system for everyone else and silence all criticism and opposition, assuming that others simply "just don't get it". So ultimately, one can be really good at pattern recognition, but really only consistently within their own mental schema. For example, most others will likely never be able to reliably replicate the results of your 'personality rubric thingy', because it requires way too much subjective interpretation (this is why there's so much disagreement in the comment section usually, and why even your own subscribers are often thrown off by your typing videos). Also, if this isn't about ego, why react so defensively to sensory feedback? If you have no self-tribe imbalance (OPS definition for Observers), why do you rub people the wrong way? Again remember, it all depends on the definitions and frameworks that you choose to employ. OPS is pretty cool and I think you have a very unique mind, but we ALL have a long way to go, and it'd be wise to understand that your "hero's journey" is still very much ongoing; just like it is for the rest of us. Welcome to the human mind, where in vacuums, we are annoyingly rife with bias and chock full of blind-spots.

[@Hyperdriveuk]

Tbh all I'm reading is a wall of Te based on assumptions. I don't necessarily disagree with all your points but, the irony of "Welcome to the human mind, where in vacuums, we are annoyingly rife with bias and chock full of blind-spots." Made me chuckle.

[@antipunt1]

@@Hyperdriveuk you’re making the same mistakes that they make: chuckling at others, being so sure of yourself, without performing introspection. I’m well aware that I am subject to bias and blind spots; never once did i insinuate I was above it. I am also aware that all I’m writing is an opinion; my opinion . What I’m not doing is advertising my views as being OBJECTIVE, nor am I going to call you a fool for disagreeing with my logic. I would also never have the hubris to say I am a God of personality typing and I know better than anyone else. See the difference?

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

Bruh, who shat in your soup?

[@antipunt1]

@@ChristopherWaddelow authenticity matters to some. Try not to make the OPS community look bad.

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

@@antipunt1 I am going to make the OPS community look bad, oops

[@kyexaiik]

Hmm… I resonate.

[@DallasWales]

Lol my buddy from high school who I had always suspected was an INTJ got into BJJ heavily and looks just like him

[@CaveyMoth]

How is he supposed to Netflix and chill?

[@Limette454]

He doesn't, he's just never chill, so he doesn't have to Netflix 😄

[@samueleparo4828]

I had almost typed him correctly, I thought he was intj SB/ P (C) 😅 MM

[@Heart.headed]

Is Antonia Dodge (from Personality Hacker) an INTJ? Maybe ExTJ? 🤔

[@jankom.7783]

He seems like INFJ. With Ti thing of having only one skill that they keep mastering. Tes don't do that. Te are like: you tell me what you need, and I learn bare minimum to accomplish that. And he asks people about their opinion on tools - that is what his opposite, STJs, usually provide to him. NTJ would have their own opinion about tools

[@The-Conqueeftador]

Hi all, ISTP with a crack-like consume here. I never do things this way. 1a. Look for "Renowned for skill in that area" 1b. Look for "body type corresponds with your own" Filtering is great, but filtering unnecessarily like this means you leave a lot on the table and miss out on valuable information. 2. "never try to bring an elite athletes entire game, to your game" Why not? Feedback (the most important signal when executing what you've consumed) will let you know what is and isn't working. So who is to say you can't copy someone style entirely? Look the Dagestanis in the UFC, they are all clones of one another. Are all consume last types this rigid and inflexible? Maybe I'm wrong here, just want to see the opinions and perspectives of others.

[@TheOmniscientHuman]

Of course you're wrong. This guy is one of the best instructors of jiu-jitsu and you're just a guy.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

​@@TheOmniscientHuman So an authority figure is always right and everyone else is always wrong?

[@TheOmniscientHuman]

@@PowerRedBullTypology *an expert is always right and a random person on YT is always wrong

[@The-Conqueeftador]

​​@@TheOmniscientHumanfirstly, I have a wrestling background, by no means am I amazing but I have gone through the beginners journey myself. Secondly, did you even read my comment? I'm not questioning his jiu-jitsu knowledge, I'm questioning his ability to consume information efficiently.

[@TheOmniscientHuman]

@@The-Conqueeftador I misunderstood. My apologies.

[@janco333]

What is this double masculine he is talking about?

[@tetianayasenko3209]

It means, he has masculine De (here this is Te) and masculine S (here this is Se). The other two functions are female. Masculine function is solid, while feminine function is movable, more agreeable, and wants to be lead.

[@monochromeprod]

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