Battle of The 700 Singles! Yamaha Grizzly 700 vs Can Am Outlander Pro HD7

[@hammerpounder]

A difference of $1100 is significant, until you look at the duration of your ownership. I own 2 Yamahas, they are both 20 years old, I changed the belt on each one...once, and they were both well beyond 10 years old when I did that too. How much does a Canam belt cost? Most guys I know that are riding Canams bring 1 if not 2 spare belts with them on a ride. Also factor in that I dont go on a single ride without having to leave a Canam on the trail somewhere then go back and tow it out...That $1100 difference is now chump change. Especially if you are going to own a machine for a long time. All your points were great, but long term payback and reliability is simply the single biggest factor when spending money.

[@dirttraxtv]

Great points!

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Yeah, I’m sure the Can Am has better performance, but it just depends if you want something to last for many years or just something for a couple years and then trade it in. I think if you plan on keeping it for over five years go with one of the Japanese Quads imo

[@firstoutlander]

I race GNCC on a Can Am and compared to the Yamaha’s the the grizzly don’t hold up. The frames and suspension break when pushed hard. Look at the most grueling races like Baja, desert racing, gncc, Paris to Dacar, hunt the wolf and more are all dominated by Can Am. Rotax engines have always been very reliable.

[@Icutmetal]

Yep…value and price are often confused.

[@XjDrZ]

@@firstoutlanderyou do realize those frames are prolly reinforced right?

[@d.j_cam]

Grizzly is old technology, unchanged since 2007, but very reliable, best cvt/4wd system in the industry.

[@greygrizzlyoutdoors1764]

Unchanged since 1998, I've had both and my first ride on my 2020 700 was just unimpressed by how similar it felt to my 1998 grizzly 600. Power wise and even ride quality felt the same. I still liked the 98 600 more to be honest.

[@d.j_cam]

2007 was the first 700 with efi, same as the engine now. I put a big bore kit and JBS clutch in mine, woke it up a lot. @@greygrizzlyoutdoors1764

[@Techprep23]

​@@greygrizzlyoutdoors1764I've noticed that being a part-time weekend warrior repair technician with a buddy of mine and his LLC he created driving a lot of these older machines mid-2000s polarises Yamahas Suzukis. Even my 2002 bear tracker and driving some of the newer machines 2015 and newer that the customer's drop off for regular maintenance I can't say there's much of a difference between the 20-year-old machines and the new models. You do notice the night and day difference between solid rear axle and independent rear suspension but there's 20 year old machines that have independent rear suspension. It's really hard to justify the prices of these new machines when you can find a used machine for example an 08 grizzly 700 with eps and just fix it for $600 to $800 in parts compared to spending 10 to 15 grand on a new machine. These four wheeler makers should be counting their lucky stars not too many people realize not a lot has changed in 20-30 years. I love my 02 bear tracker from Yamaha and to replace it with the modern day equivalent is $5,000. And the only thing that's changed is a CVT and front shocks instead of McPherson struts why spend $5,000 on a Kawasaki brute Force 300 which uses a kymco 270cc motor when my Yamaha Bear tracker is technically a 229cc labeled as a 250. Both machines are carbureted both machines are solid rear axle and I actually prefer my foot shift. second gear has saved my ass more times than I'd like to count getting stuck in these UTV ruts. I spent $700 in parts fixing a free four wheeler my buddy gave me because he broke the frame. And told me if I fixed it I can keep it so I did. My grandfather still drives his 2000 Kodiak 400. He bought brand new with a bonus check from AT& T and 24 years later he's still the original owner. I can't wait to inherit that. He spent three grand on it and to replace it AKA upgrade is $7,000 for what EFI and independent rear suspension instead of a solid rear axle it's not worth the money.

[@Tomyum19]

Ride quality felt the same going from solid rear axle to independent? Sounds like you haven't owned either.

[@Techprep23]

@@Tomyum19 I was going to say the same. I've only owned a solid rear axle and grandpa's Kodiak 400 is a solid rear axle he bought new in 2000 which I grew up on. Nothing like running close to the base of a tree coming down the trail and the roots become like mini speed bumps. The rear shock compresses. Then it returns to normal then guess what. Inertia carries your ass the rest of the way off the seat till your legs kick in to kinda hold you in suspension and your thigh muscle tense up to kinda keep you in place just above the seat. I repair atvs too so test riding a customers bike with IRS. Same scenario hit the tree roots wheel compresses spring, seat sinks a little and just ride it out like a wave. Much more pleasant riding experience They both have their place though but I still prefer solid rear axle for the riding I do mostly flat land. Honestly can't tell the difference until you go off asphalt and get some gradation to the land that's where it really counts. And the grizzly may be old tech but by God learn from Honda. Don't change a thing. Big bore singles are easier to work on and fix than v-twins.

[@danthemanf5555]

If I was rich. I swear I'd own every kind of machine. Never seen one I didn't like

[@Lying992]

Idk man, Kawasaki makes some ugly stuff lol.

[@KLX300RMIKE]

Would have been nice to compare diff lock, engine breaking, and single lever vs independent front/rear breaking between the two. All are very important features with my style of riding and hardly ever get mentioned in most machine shoot-outs

[@chrislobb936]

I’m thrilled just to see some research and development going into ATV’s.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome stuff boys! I share Mike's Grizzly bias but CanAm really came through for us fans of the handle bars! Interesting finds and great points about the well established Grizzly and the new kid on the 700ish block!

[@dirttraxtv]

Thanks man and thanks for chiming in! Always appreciate your opinion 👊🏻💥🎉

[@ethanmunger3374]

You gonna compare the yammi and the Outty at some point?

[@dirttraxtv]

​@@ethanmunger3374Actually should throw your KQ in the mix too!! Would love to see that.

[@reidharris1059]

Can’t wait for the can am 700 vs kingquad 750

[@CanadianAtLarge]

Personally I’m a griz guy I like the big front tires im a guy that’s split with mud ridding, river crossing, rock climbs and rough terrain all to get to hard to access lakes for fishing. I barely open up the atv over 70km/h and the tires only start to suck after 60km/h if I wanted a trail racer I’d get a renegade for 4x4 or a raptor for clean trails, I find the griz a all around atv and perfect for me I like the handling on the griz always fun doing a little slide on a long wide corner.

[@off-roadnpew2183]

Swapped for a rubi to an Xmr700. I’ve had dozens of different atvs. But it’s by far my favorite atv made

[@dirttraxtv]

Awesome!

[@user-ci6re8cb3z]

CanAm has been putting that 650cc single in all sorts of machines for years and years. I think its beyond proven. Commander 700, Maverick Trail 700, Defender HD-7, and now the Outlander 500 and 700. Hell I own a Husqvarna motorcycle with that same Rotax 650. Its a solid engine.

[@jonl2938]

I’ve got a 2010 Outlander, this year I’ve finally had to replace a few things: CVT intake boot (rubber starting to crack), one CV boot, and the 4x4 actuator fried. I know the Grizz is reliable, but if you keep up with maintenance the Outlanders are great too.

[@garybrown9062]

Problem with reviews of any new machine is how is it going to run 5000 km from now. Frankly I wouldn’t buy a first year anything. That being said I hope this Can Am turns out to be a great machine. Force Yamaha to upgrade at least a little. Meanwhile I’ll keep my 21 Grizzly SE for at least another year.

[@ramtruck2011able]

Well said

[@Maritimer]

Hey ! Great video as always DT ! As a Grizzly Rider and lover of the ATV (I've owned two) I think you guys summed this up perfectly, you get a whole lot more in that HD7 than you do with the Grizzly, saying that its a New Model VS a Grizzly that's been basically the same sense 2008 (lets me honest, even 2016 wasn't much change) All we can hope for now is Can Am takes some sales from Yamaha which causes them to re-do the Grizzly and make it better.... competitions is good for everyone. I love the front storage on the HD7 and the USB ports in the storage box is a great idea (I could charge my camera/drone batteries) I thought the 26" wheels looked a bit small though, but like you said - tires are usually the first thing people change (me included) I'm hoping Yamaha changes the Grizzly to a Twin maybe 900-1000 and is competition for Outlander 1000 and them possibly re-do the Kodiak 700 to compete more with the HD7. Also I wish they still made the 450 class, those were a super reliable machine. Thanks for all the videos ! and if yahs ever come to New Brunswick, I'd love to take ya around.

[@dirttraxtv]

Thank you! Yeah, I would love to see a bigger bore Grizzly so bad. Still need to keep this engine in the lineup tho!!

[@dustinmittel348]

Heard yamaha is about to use a Chinese manufacturer for their future motors. Unfortunately, I'm guessing quality is about to start lacking and I honestly don't think they'll ever go bigger than the 700 they have a 1000cc sxs an 800cc would a good choice. I'm sure they don't want to make a bigger frame

[@dustinmittel348]

Also, enjoy watching your channel. Canada seems atv friendly here in the south they have parks, but nothing like what out west, and yall have

[@Maritimer]

hey man, thanks so much, I appreciate that. Yeah we are pretty lucky to have such a wide range of trails, I didn't even know was a ATV park was until a few years ago haha you'll have to come up and ride the trails !@@dustinmittel348

[@dustinmittel348]

@Maritimer maybe one day I have a 2014 700. Unfortunately, mice decided to have a winter home in it while I was deployed so it's going to have to go to the shop

[@paulgarcia6257]

I wish sxs where never invented. In the south the atvs are age depending 30 and under for the most part you’ll be ok and it’ll be age appropriate. Over 30 get a sxs or you’ll be hearing from your buddies…”when you gonna get a sxs like the rest of us” 😢

[@danlux4954]

I have both, atv for fun sxs for work.

[@Mike-rv5bc]

Well let me tell you... nothing beats riding a regular quad.. it's way more fun period.. yeah it might have u feeling a little tired and maybe sore afterwards but if I wanted to ride a car type quad thru the trails I would of bought a jeep

[@jacktravis75]

@@Mike-rv5bcnothing beat riding a … enduro cross!

[@trentparker2125]

With age comes a cage, don’t let them peer pressure you into getting old!

[@cirbar3467]

I answer,when I'm gay I'll get a sxs

[@Dusdaddy]

I bought the Hunting Edition this summer and I already own a Grizz. I looked at the Grizz EPS Camo but it retails at $12.5K. My Can-Am was $10.9K with all the extra features.Better value on the Can-Am. Overall I agree with everything except fit & finish. It's terrible on my Can-Am, and others have the same issues. Hopefully that gets fixed for next year. Power is much greater than the Grizz. The HD7 leaps forward when in Sport mode. For such a heavy machine, 900+, it handles better than the Grizz as well. Complaints? Winch is too low and too far back The front box is great but I wish it had one latch, vice two. Trying to open it while holding something in your hand you want to put in it is difficult. The "glove" box is tiny and they don't even give you the magnet to attach to your phone that will hold it there. Fit & finish: Panels have big gaps, bumper was received bent, and decals are adhered in the wrong location. Easy panel removal for maintenance becomes difficult with skid plates

[@dirttraxtv]

Good summary! Thanks for sharing!!

[@stevelamarche9242]

Probably the best video on KZbin comparing two atv! Great job 👍🇨🇦!

[@dirttraxtv]

Wow, thanks so much!! 👊🏻💥🎉

[@danlux4954]

That Grizzly eps is the best

[@alexandergillingham2592]

It is

[@SkidooMXZTNT]

The dps on the outlander is pretty great too. Love it.

[@danlux4954]

@@SkidooMXZTNT I don’t have as many hours on my Outlander than I had on my Grizzly. But so far so good, even the Visqo-lok is impressing me.

[@danlux4954]

@@SkidooMXZTNT I don’t have as many hours on my Outlander than I had on my Grizzly. But so far so good, even the Visqo-lok is impressing me.

[@SkidooMXZTNT]

@@danlux4954right on! Both are great bikes. I’ve got a 9 year old outlander 650 that has been great. A lot of of my buddies use the grizz and have great luck too. Cant go wrong with either. Big fan of the outlander power though, it’s noticeable from the grizz. Not sure how this new outlander 700 single compares to my 650 twin. Love the twin motor.

[@NiCKRr87]

I'm a sport quad guy, I could have bought any utility atv I wanted last summer and still got a Grizzly.

[@toughitaliankid]

The locker botton Looks like the last gen CForce switch gear.

[@clifflevy5529]

​@@toughitaliankidthat's because CFMoto copied Yamahas 20 year design on the switch..lol

[@kennethcole9896]

Yamaha it’s like the Toyota of ATVs

[@EB_executiveboyyz]

Toyota is the 2nd largest stake holder in the Yamaha company so the Yamaha basically is a Toyota Yamaha also helped Toyota create a few stuff on the Lexus Lfa.

[@benjamindubois9867]

Yamaha also made the cylinder heads for the last year model toyota celica gts.

[@jonnyretro2235]

Great to see Can Am continuing to push the atv market forward. I can’t help but think the Yamaha is gonna be a lot more reliable though. What is the Can Am gonna be worth in 5 years compared to the Grizzly?

[@SkidooMXZTNT]

Can-am has always held their value extremely well. They are premium bikes.

[@ABenjamin76]

Great video guys. I own a 2016 Yamaha grizzly 700 that had the snake bitten Subaru engine. Dealer did a nice job with the recall notice. 8000 miles, 1100 hours and still going strong. Curious to see how the HD7 pro holds up after several years. The grizz has such a plush feel, handles amazing, and feels like there's always extra power available when you need it. The 700 class is really a sweet spot in my opinion in terms of weight, nimbleness, and power. I ride solo in some pretty desolate places so reliability is a must. I bring a bunch of tools and survival gear but thankfully never had to use them with my grizz. If you want true reliability, the Honda Foreman is great but it's only 520 cc and doesn't quite have the plushness and ergonomics of the grizz. Would love to see how the hd7 reliability is in 2 years. If so, i may consider switching. Thanks for the great video

[@dirttraxtv]

Glad the Grizz is working for you. Always important to have a good dealer relationship too.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

I would choose the king Quad because you can get them $2000 less than Grizzly in my area

[@joekearney]

Yup, and after owning both the KingQuad has better fit and finish than the grizzly as well. I rank the KQ number 1 by a hair for overall quality and fit and finish even over the grizzly.

[@kevinmasters7189]

Yamaha's belt drive system is the most reliable bar none. I had a Kodaik for 13yrs that I punished. Plowing a 1/4 mile private drive in northeast ohio, pulling logs out of the woods every spring, put it through every mud hole I could find on the trails. Still had the original belt when I sold it. And not 1 drop of water ever got into the belt drive.

[@randyphillips559]

Good evaluation! The Zilla's rule in this area of bush & mud, no complaints about them from me! Also if you guys slowed down & rode like 90% population that buy these machines you would see how that softer stabilizer bar gives more traction & less 3 wheel action on uneven tight trails, there's always a compromise I sometimes feel you guys don't address.

[@DarrylAdrian]

I too am biased towards a Grizz. I owned two. I just purchased a 2023 Outlander 1000R. for the 1000. I have a 2007 450 Kodiak. Been through the wringer a few times. Got me home every time. And still running the same stock / original belt. 👍👍

[@dirttraxtv]

Great machines!

[@joerutkowsky3261]

You said the grizzly didn’t have any competition for the last few years. I believe the Suzuki king quad was competition for it.

[@Dusdaddy]

like he said.....

[@DonkeyKong2222]

Both great machines, but we'll see how well the Outlander will hold up in the long run. Yes, the Outlander has all the toys but Yamaha is the reliable, proven machine. When you buy a car, a Hyundai will give you all the options for less and the Toyota that costs more will give you less options for more, however, the Toyota will give you years of reliable service. Great video and great products

[@dirttraxtv]

Thank you!!

[@sammyclarke1509]

The grizzly looks way better and ill take that yamaha reliability all day everyday! Great videos guys!

[@dirttraxtv]

Thank you!!

[@MrSprintcat]

Me 2

[@larryw5429]

I will take Yamaha reliability over features.. I don't want my stuff broke down on the trail or at the dealer after warranty is gone because it's falling apart!

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Even with the warranty, it could still be a pain in the ass and parts could be back ordered. You just never know how long it’s going to be at the shop.

[@stonehorn4641]

Only a fool thinks Can-Am quads fall apart

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

no, i think it is "on-command" unless yamaha and polaris switched taglines for their 4x4 systems.. the "can-am hump" thing is way exaggerated in my opinion. are they the smoothest shifting? no, but i never found them hard to shift and most of the time i dont have to rock them to shift them. lubricate the linkage and it gets better. instead of fake shine in a can, people need to do more lubricating and maintenance. the tires that come on a standard grizzly are much better and make a noticeable difference in handling, suspension and even acceleration over the mud tires on the Se and XTR. id like to try the new outlander, but i doubt it will be as playful and light on its feet as a grizzly. i never rode a more playful 4x4.

[@jameshogg601]

As someone who has had to use canam 570 pros for 6 years at work to two trailers the canam shift gate was garbage and a pain in the ass forever fighting it. Especially with the terrible turning circle on the canam. Night and day difference with a kodiak 700.

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

@@jameshogg601 i must have gotten lucky.. several times. i never had to constantly shift them like a person that plows with theirs, but i never found them difficult, a little notchy though. lubricating the shift linkage properly helps and isnt a hard thing to do

[@danlux4954]

@@powersportsenthusiast1986 I had a Grizzly and never had to rock it to shift compared to my 2022 CanAm, such a pain.

[@jameshogg601]

@powersportsenthusiast1986 to be fair it was fine till you are in a hurry and sods law thats when you would fight it. Though to be fair with the yamaha when it was hot you would find it would jump as you went from P to H/L past R when the idle was a touch high.

[@jonnygodbout738]

What about the kingquad 750 ? Id like to see a comparison must be more close to that canam when we talk about power and reliability great video as always and thanks for all thoses reviews love it

[@bryanstaten5585]

I like the canam but would wait a year or two to see if any major issues arise on the new platform.

[@andrewsbbq]

Love the Griz. Super interested in watching the CanAm. We see others on KZbin with plastics fitment issues on Canam, wrong parts from factory, questionable dealer assembly. All things that can be worked out during the first model year, the key is for Canam to work out those issues. My money would got to an HD7 Pro XU. But I’ll wait another year or two before I plunk down cash on any new machine, by then we’ll see if canam has kept pushing the needle

[@liveisascopeadventures]

I have the Canam the hunting edition over 2000km on it loving it

[@dirttraxtv]

Awesome!

[@joekearney]

Both really nice Machines . I’ve now owned them all sans CF Moto. Can’t go wrong with a grizzly for sure and the Ultramatic is the best cvt in the business, however the cvt on my KingQuad 750 was just as smooth and buttery as my Grizzly I had before it . The kingquad is king of quality and fit and finish . This is a very respectable attempt at Japanese quality and fit and finish from a North American manufacturer for once . I’m back in big bore power on a 2023 Can Am Outlander 1000R XT though now lol and LOVE it. I don’t expect it to hold up as well honestly but man …..best power steering in the business and I’ve owned a grizzly . IF they’d just build a 1000 Grizzly or 1000 Kingquad……..oh man.

[@dirttraxtv]

That would be awesome. Let's all keep our fingers crossed Yamaha comes to its senses!!😁

[@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686]

First, thank you so much for taking the time to do this shootout and giving love to the ATV segment which deserves it and needs it. On the other side, something I and many others always want to know is how the machines hold up in water. So in other words, how well is the belt sealed? The Grizzly 700 I owned in 2011 could be submerged over the handlebars and the belt wouldn't get wet. I'm not asking you guys or any reviewer to do something 'that' extreme, but maybe up to the seat? Do these new Grizzly's hold up just as well in that regard? And also obviously, how does the Can-Am belt do in the same situation? How are their belts sealed? It's something no one ever does or talks about and I hate it because SO many riders like myself have a lot of creeks/ponds/swamps etc that we have (and enjoy) to go through but we don't feel like always having to snorkel our ATV's. It's the main reason I got rid of my 850 Sportsman SP because that thing couldn't hardly go in the water barely past the floorboards or its belt would slip like crazy and why I sold it and got a 520 Rubicon DCT EPS which can go as deep as I want it to go with zero issues due to no belt and excellent factory sealing. Sorry for the long rant. Thank you guys for doing this.

[@dirttraxtv]

Great comment and something we didn't consider! Worth exploring in the future for sure. Thanks!!

[@Maritimer]

The New Grizzlies have the same set up belt wise as the old ones, I've never experience any slipping with my 2008 or 2017. Solid reliable machines.

[@Dusdaddy]

There is a video out there with a 700 Xmr that he took the water right up to the base of the handlebars and it stayed dry. I know on my Grizz it got wet when I went to the top of the ignition key.

[@jakemccann2790]

Ive owned 5 can ams , and owned two grizzlies Shifter on the left is better for one , dependability , no flashy electronics Grizzly hands down the winner for me . Great video thanks for your time

[@dirttraxtv]

Thanks!!

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

Agree i like the shifter on left side vs right side! Yamaha is just reliable!!! I have a 03 ish runs strong still! Not many parts gone into it since new

[@4wheelliving132]

Excellent review. If I lived way up north in Canada or Alaska and hunted 20 miles from the nearest road I may go with the Yamaha, but for someone like me who just rides state trails the Can Am is definitely the right machine. I just bought my second Can Am and I had the first one for 5 years and never had a lick of trouble with it. Actually a buddy bought it from me

[@dirttraxtv]

Nice!! What unit did you get?

[@4wheelliving132]

@@dirttraxtv The Outlander Max XT and added heated grips, a soft saddle bag, and a snow plow the the power side to side turning. My dream machine

[@waylonolsen]

Here's a question HD7 has ITC modes... what mode does the 700 DPS Throttle mode compare to.. not have ITC? Hoping 700 DPS model compares to Sport mode...

[@RydinginStyle72]

I wonder what the power to weight ratio is? Which one is faster on top end and which one wheel is easier power wheelies?

[@ComfyDadShoes]

The better deals are definitely on the Canadian products (outlander / sportsman). This was the same situation I was in when I got my 2017 sportsman. I had it for four years and it never gave me any issues. I honestly think I would buy the sportsman again for cost savings alone. Without the deals, I feel like you’re guaranteed to get a reliable product with the Grizzly.

[@jasonknight6925]

The grizz 700, canam 700, 850, 1000, sportsman 850, 1000 are all great machines. Can't imagine you'd ever be dissappointed in owning any of them. If your in the market go sit on them all and pick the one you like. I own a grizz 700 and a new sportsman 850. I would never sell my grizz and love it but for me the sportsman 850 is better in every way except the grizz might feel a bit tougher built. if you plan to swamp, jump and rip the crap outta them expect to brake something. Any one of those atv's will be sure to bring a smile to anyone who loves atv's and a good bit of power. Love the reviews you guys do!!! but do think in all these review it would be nice to know what yall ride as your daily atv'er :)

[@franksmith2887]

Hmm i stand corrected. I wasnt sure on brakes and what 4wd system it used. But the three things i have always not liked about can ams is the ground clearance under the front between the wheels and floor boards, the weight, and the front of the machine protrudes in front of the wheels a bit limiting approach angle a bit. The grizz could use a lower low range for sure. I have seen can ams( more than 1 ) have issues with trimode eps

[@dannymacdonnell251]

After owning a outlander 850 I am happy with my grizzly .. Reliability is most important for me these days .. gas and go zero issues

[@dominickguerra189]

What made you switch? I also own grizz. My buddy had a cool 570 max and i liked it alot.

[@dannymacdonnell251]

@@dominickguerra189 I found it a pain to work on and didn’t like the stock suspension it was way to soft and bottomed out all the time I should of got the xtp I guess for the better shocks . Didn’t like all the grease fittings were a pain and wouldn’t take grease half the time and I found the power steering to numb in any setting didn’t feel any feed back .. and the belt slap sounded like it was going to explode at times .. I owned a 03 grizzly and that thing is still going lol so I grabbed a 2022 model and I do miss that power but 1400 km zero issues zero squeaks better power steering and just more reliable that’s the biggest thing with me but not everyone ..

[@dominickguerra189]

well said. We swapped machines once at an atv park before he sold it (due to financial reasons) and personally thought the suspension was nice and plush. More than likely because it was a brand new machine and mines a 2015. I didnt like the clunking noises the transmission/cvt made. I will more than likely be a grizzly man for life. Cheers@@dannymacdonnell251

[@EastCoastATV]

Great video. I like pretty much any ATV from any brand, and I can appreciate what each one was made for and the pros and cons of each. I've always liked the look of the Yamaha Grizzly and can admire how much people that own them seem to love them. For me I didn't buy one in the past due the huge price difference for hp. The 700 was priced like a Polaris or Can Am 850 but only had the hp of the 570's. To me that was important, but not so much for others and that's fine. To each their own. The Can Am easily won on value in this video. I'd like to see a similar style value comparison with the new Yamaha Wolverine X2 1000 and similarly priced Commander XT 1000.

[@RydinginStyle72]

Would it be fair to compare the base model with steel wheels of The Outlander with the Kodiak 700? I would like to know top speed differences. And who doesn't like riding wheelies? Which one is better at that? What about the 80 lb weight difference?

[@driller6801]

The Suzuki king quad 750 would fit nice in this comparison.

[@jamescleverley1339]

I think you need to do an update after 300-400 miles and see what’s falling apart on the can am.

[@dirttraxtv]

LOL

[@edwardcote1331]

been riding my g3 can am every day since may '23 and so far,not a single thing has failed besides a punctured tire.

[@NCMudman]

How come not to add the Suzuki King quad 750 to this shootout? Although I know it seems like a Suzuki has definitely taken the back burner the last several years

[@dirttraxtv]

Have not had a Suzuki available for a few seasons. Plus, based on what our viewers have been asking for, these were the two to compare here.

[@NCMudman]

@@dirttraxtv oh that's not a surprise. It's pretty sad, seeing how they used to be so competitive in different classes. Hopefully this will kick Yamaha in gear to make some improvements 😁. Loved my old grizzly and still think it's a top notch ATV

[@fistcover3831]

Suzuki King Quad definitely trumps both in price and possibly ease of maintenance as well.

[@scottfurlong5475]

​@@fistcover3831 In my area, king quad was more expensive than the grizzly. Also, I find it rides a little rough as compared to my grizzly. Ease of maintenance is about the same on grizzly. Suzuki quality is top shelf though.

[@fistcover3831]

@@scottfurlong5475 I am in Southeast Pennsylvania, and Grizzly atvs are easily $2,000 more than king quads around here. Are you in the US or Canada?

[@Swindy1794]

Many years ago i had a Yamaha Grizzly 660. The engine was awesome, gobs and gobs of power but everything else was a disaster!! All the CV joints were junk in no time, it ran Hot, and electrical problems galore. Never again!

[@dirttraxtv]

Wow

[@Swindy1794]

@@dirttraxtv i will say on yamahas’ behalf, I used to own a Yamaha 700 SRX snowmobile and that thing kicked ass!.. smoothest running, best sounding, very dependable.. it was a great machine. I Put many miles on that thing and Zero problems. Can’t buy those anymore…. Thanks EPA. 😢

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Do they both have an entire stainless steel exhaust system like Suzuki ?

[@Dusdaddy]

Nope. But does that some how matter?

[@crazyflyboy30]

Still have to go with the Grizzly. The wet clutch is the main thing and it can be modified has well has the primary clutch can be modified for more low gearing and more high gearing. And other things or better on the Grizzly. But when you start talking 2 up can am is the winner. My Scrambler XP1000 S now is the Mega Quad now with a 70" wheelbase and 58" wide and it's hill climbing ability is off the chart.

[@mert_1]

Ergonomics sitting on the can am it feels like seat is too high handle bars too low imo

[@offroadtrailrider77]

Anyone ever convert the thumb throttle to a twist throttle on the Grizzly?

[@joelocker3508]

Good for you i have 2 450 Kodiak now nothing but trouble 18 and 19 model fuel pump on its 3 rd one ujoints went out on both at less than 3k miles i had 14 450 no problem but there quality has definitely went down now i have 570 can am love it we ll see how it last

[@mattneily5507]

Don't get me wrong, I think this was an excellent review & overview of these 2 machines, however I do believe there was a missed opportunity. Ive read in the comments that you weren't able to get access to the Suzuki Kingquad 750 and that's fine. However I noticed you did a video on the Argo xplorer 700 (Kymco MXU700) not long ago. it would've been really nice to see that in this video - to truly see how the "budget" alternative would stack up against more flagship brands. There also isn't enough coverage on Argo products, I feel like a direct comparison to some of the big time names would've been good, and also mightve surprised a few folks in the categories. I'd take that 686 single & ultramatic transmission any day of the week. Could care a less about all these features on the can ams, 3 mode power steering, intelligent engine braking & throttle control all sound like liabilities to me rather than feature. more sensors, more wires, more programming, more controls, more issues & even more troubleshooting. Yamaha are the only manufacturer I've seen advertise a 10 year belt warranty, and that they use marine grade electronic connections in their ATV. Buy once, cry once - you're getting what you pay for.

[@dirttraxtv]

The Argo was actually slated to be in this comparo, but unfortunately we had to give it back before we had a chance to shoot this. You're right though, it would've been a good addition to this segment.

[@rileyjones750]

I’d still go Yamaha

[@cylinderroller]

No one talking about my bike the kaw 750 brute force 750. I got the 2012 model brand new got 1600 terrible miles on it and have never had anything break. Just routine maintenance.

[@frankreinhardt441]

I dont know much about CanAm, I do have a couple of friends that have had them but didnt keep them long for some reason. I do own a Grizzly, bought it new in 2008, but a 2009 model. I have never had a problem out of it. I replaced 2 CV boots, one spark plug and 2 batteries since I have owned it, never had any mechanical issues, still the same belt on it. If i was to buy another atv, it would be a Yamaha.

[@dirttraxtv]

Grizzly is a great ATV.

[@grahammctavish4286]

Not a fan of the electronics on the can am, I think it’s pointless and susceptible to failure. The cubbies and chargers are a good idea.

[@leoncope6649]

I’m be hind on this four wheeling stuff , I went out got a Kodiak 700 , very fun reliable machine it has not left me walking back from any where yet lol 😂

[@bradpowell843]

Grizzly is old news, it’s in great need of an update.

[@mk2ingit]

I'll stick to proven reliability and the reason why i own a 700 and 2 yamaha waverunners 1.8s . Maybe not the fastest but it'll get me to where I'm going..

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Yeah, all the fun goes out the window if you’re broke down on the trail 20 miles from the truck

[@Robert-uh6bx]

My dad was a Honda man most of his life but the last 10 years or so he owned but a 500 rubicon and 700 grizzly. He wanted a new 2 up quad so he traded the grizzly in on the new 700 can am two up and really likes it. He said the can am still got to prove itself but he’s happy with it so far. More power and quite compared to the grizzly. He likes the storage also. I’ve owned a lot of Honda’s and some Yamaha’s including a grizzly 700 but for my next machine I’m thinking of trying my first can am 700 pro. I think can am makes a good product and they are smart with there marketing and are going to give the Japanese brands a run for there money

[@Guovssohas]

Feature number one and the most important; reliability, dependability for years. We all know which one wins there. Grizzlies and Kodiaks are legendary in that area!

[@gerardhallas2669]

Canam is very impressive i think i want one

[@Matts000]

Totally off-topic, but have any of you guys at Dirt Trax heard anything about the possibility of a new Brute Force coming from Kawasaki? 🤞🏻

[@dirttraxtv]

No, but it is so long overdue!!

[@Matts000]

@@dirttraxtvyes, yes it is. Amazing content as always. Keep up the awesome work. Cheers from Brandon Manitoba 🍻🍻

[@user-cc5yl7xx3r]

my 2011 can am put out so much heat i couldnt even ride it in the summer my legs would burn, also the drivetrain noise while riding slow. are those fixed now on a can am product

[@Neo_cubist]

LED lighting could have been considered too in the value comparison

[@dirttraxtv]

True!

[@ve3xtr]

I'll stick with my Yamaha Kodiak 700 EPS for reliability.

[@kevinculver8356]

I am curious why can am went from the 570 twin to a 650 single. Would be interesting to see how the old 570 compares to the new hd7. I am also waiting to see if Polaris follows can ams lead and builds a. 700cc single of their own.

[@dirttraxtv]

Likely a bunch of factors like production cost and efficiency that drove the idea. I also think they were looking to lead in that 40 and 50 HP category as well.

[@jfk19780]

can ams visco lock up on their diffs suck seen them in use and they were stuck in spots a yamaha went through like nothing not sure if can am still using this system

[@calebh85]

Should have included the king quad 750

[@Twistedoff2]

Great comparo video. For me, these are the 2 competitors. The Yamaha is a great machine. I've owned 2. Never had a Can am because I live in the SW and a lot of the time it's hot when I'm riding. Now it's changed. It'll be interesting if Yamaha ups the game. I mean, it took everyone else a while to catch up!

[@dirttraxtv]

Would be awesome if Yamaha brought some figh to the game!!

[@littleposerfish]

This is one of the best comparisons video I've seen. Man, it would be tough to choose between the two.

[@dirttraxtv]

Glad you liked it!

[@minnesotaxmr]

Nice job guys. Reliable Vs performance. You nailed it. "Ride Hard and Be Safe" MN Bill

[@dieselmutt8865]

That Can Am does look intriguing, I wouldn't rule one out if I bought an ATV again. When I was looking to buy an ATV years ago I wanted to put a plow on it and I thought the Yamaha frames looked very weak compared to other brands for that purpose and some Google searching verified that. I ended up buying a Brute Force 750 EPS and that machine didn't disappoint in every way that I used it. If I was to buy an ATV today, it would definitely be another Brute or a Can Am.

[@billyzgoneape]

What about fuel economy between the two ? I know the can am 570 is a pig on fuel compared to my grizzly

[@dirttraxtv]

This is one area we didn't compare directly.

[@Dusdaddy]

On par with each other. My son and I went riding over a long weekend with a Grizz and HD7 and the HD7 used slightly less fuel than the Grizz.

[@tommykelley3948]

RELIABLE IS KEY; “YAMAHA”🎯🎯🎯👌🏾‼️

[@kevinhazen7201]

Thanks for the comparison. How about can am two up 700 vs cf moto 800 2 up? Really curious on a comparison. I own 2 touring models, cfmoto 600 and a Polaris 570. Both are great and perfect for 2 up riding. Almost time for a new one though. Your thoughts?

[@dirttraxtv]

Great suggestion!

[@bounce12]

I just traded in my 2017 grizzly 708 se all black. I loved the look of the black but the 3 times I had the engine shimmed and oil I had to put in it turned my stomach. Now I’m driving the 2024 686 se and absolutely love the bike especially the black silver and teal colour combination!! Square tire setup is nice looking but it so take away from handling for sure. I might change out the zillas for something better for trails!!

[@markbuck9299]

Time will tell how reliable the new 700 can am really is !!

[@jasoncrocker9332]

12000 Km of hard use on my Grizzly so far with no issues when I’m ready to replace it I’ll get A 1000 outlander I don’t like the look of the pro hd7

[@markbuck9299]

@@jasoncrocker9332 keep your grizzly, if you want a reliable quad

[@guitarman864]

I've had both a can am and a grizzly, and if I had to pick one to get me across the country I roughest of Terrain it would be hands down grizzly every single time!! If I wanted to race, then it would be the can am hoping that it didn't break down

[@TinyTJ04]

This was a good one, boys! I think you might hace swayed me to try the Can Am. Ive had Yamaha and Can Am in the past and the fun factor now comes in cheaper?? Wow!

[@elcrypto3623]

Great comparison...im looking at a 2017 Grizzly SE. Im betting on Yamahas reliabity for getting me home in BC'S rugged country. Subscribed

[@dirttraxtv]

Awesome! Pretty sure that unit uses the 708 Subaru engine. I never had any issues with mine, but you might get a louder audience telling you different. Have a look at the mileage and wear on the ATV and check the internet for known issues to be aware of. For the record, Yamaha quickly moved back to the Yamaha-built 686 single in the Grizzly which is what is still in use on current models.

[@macfarms]

A little confused re the Grizz having no competition in it's class. What about the KQ750? When the first 700 Grizz came out in 2007 there was plenty of competition but everyone else moved away from the 650-700cc singles.

[@benmayhew373]

Love the video/compare o. One of your main points was the pricing...have you seen the price increase on the Can Am's for 2024? Closes the price gap as the 2024 Grizzly stayed the same in price. I actually like them both but I'd probably go with the Grizzly because I had a 2021 that I miss everyday and my local Yamaha dealer is very close and excellent to deal with in every department.

[@jasoncampbell2808]

Yeah, but the Can Am still gives you more extras from the factory than the Grizzly.

[@benmayhew373]

​@jasoncampbell2808 very true. That's why I'm so torn on what to get. I love the front storage on the Can Am and a few of the other things. I've owned a 2021 Grizzly and loved it and I've owned a 2022 outlander 850xt and loved it so...🤯. And my oldest son works at a Can Am dealership!!! Lol.

[@jasoncampbell2808]

@@benmayhew373 tough decision for sure. I think it boils down to how strong you feel towards each brand, and if you prefer one over the other. I like Can Am, but I've always said if I was going to go with a Japanese quad it would be Yamaha. If you take any brand bias out of it and just compare the two's features, I feel like the Outlander wins. It's cheaper, it has more front suspension travel, it has more storage, more HP, and it has front and rear guards and winch. To me, and I don't mean this as a shot at Yamaha or anyone who prefers the Yamaha, but if you're just comparing the 2 to one another I don't know what justification one could use to choose the Yamaha EXCEPT any perceived quality/longevity feeling a person might have towards the Yamaha or unless a person just preferred the looks more.

[@Dusdaddy]

Since they came out with an HD5 Hunting Edition, Can-Am raised the price on the HD7 version by $250. But that new HD5 version is only $10.5K. That version is probably equal to the Grizz in power yet the XTR is $2000 more! I've owned a Grizz for 10 years and it was a no brainer for me to go with the Can-Am. Way less money for way more machine. And That $2K can buy a reaaaal long warranty.

[@ParadiseAtvTrail]

I really like them both but I do believe the Yamaha would last longer. I have a 2009 rhino 700 and it still runs like it’s new for 14 years old. The Yamahas have incredible durability and reliability I just don’t think the can am will last 20 plus years like the Yamaha can. I had a older Yamaha grizzly 700 with 18,000 miles and it was still going strong before I sold it.

[@REJ509]

I was torn between these two and went with xtr grizz. Maybe a second quad will be an outlander 700 unless Yamaha comes out with something new in the next few years.

[@garykarnes6514]

Grizzly for me.

[@avz46]

can am is much heavier and less ground clearance. yamaha is lighter, better EPS, separated front/rear brakes, more GC, better 4wd/diff lock, better lights and not surprising, durability. tough terrain capability is also gonna be better on the grizz. The ground clearance, approach and departure angles even with apples to apples tires is better on the grizz. I dont know where they get these GC numbers from but the grizz has more even GC under whole machine front middle back and under floor boards. I bought my grizz cause I wanted an atv that felt like an ATV.

[@dirttraxtv]

Fair enough.

[@fraggen]

The can am also have separated brakes. Also diff lock, including the viscodiff when in ordinary 4wd-mode. The new ledlights are far superior to the grizzlys. The EPS has three modes so you can customise your ride, instead of letting yamaha decide it for you. More power. Lower low gear. The ground clearance depends on tires, but you will fit 30" on the Can am without any modifications. But yes. They have gone up in wheight by alot. Even tho it doesnt feel like it when you ride it.

[@toughnewfie6572]

My Can Am is a beast. Haven't burned out a belt yet, either 😊

[@BC_Hunter]

Just bought the new Can-am HD7 Pro and beat the living snot out of it on 1 week hunting trip up North. It was impressive. My buddy in his 22 Grizzly 700 had to use his front locker several times after getting stuck (he’s a seasoned rider). Not once did I use mine.

[@thegodfreyspecial423]

Funny enough I was on a trip with a buddy on a Grizzly on the exact same tires (Wild Thangs same sizes) as my old 570 Can-Am where we hit some pretty deep snow. No matter what the guy tried the Griz was getting stuck left right and centre and the 570 just needed a handful of throttle to walk out of the same stuff - it was weird but definitely highlighted something intrinsically different with the Grizzly - they have more ground clearance and locking diff but couldn't keep up. More comfortable and torquey than the 570, though.

[@danlux4954]

The visco-lok works good when new, but they wear out. Loved my Grizzly difflock

[@BC_Hunter]

@@danlux4954 The new HD7 has front locker as well.

[@danlux4954]

@@BC_Hunter because CanAm knew it’s needed. Couldn’t get it on my Outlander though.

[@BC_Hunter]

@@danlux4954Yes they only have the 4Lok on the HD7 Pro & XMR models

[@spheno12]

I've owned yamaha's for years and had a Can-am '22 X3 Turbo RR. Loved both machines. My '14 Grizzly 700 had over 6k miles and only went through brakes and tune ups, but ended up adding a lot of mods to it still with no issues. The Can-am X3 was the same way. The Can-am 700 is a "new" machine from the ground up. I'd be curious to see how it holds up in the reliability dept and not just from people's prior experience with other machines. Looks like a lot of people already had their minds made up before the can-am has even had enough time to prove itself. The 2016-2018 Grizzly 708cc was plagued with problems so every manufacturer can have their ups and downs at times. Ya, yamaha has a pretty reliable formula that works well, but they are also on a 20+ year update cycle which is annoying. If it ain't broke don't fix it is fine, but you should be able to make incremental changes pretty regularly without having to wait a decade without a major update.

[@1doug62]

Ok, let's skip right to "RELIABILITY" it's actually the Suzuki King Quad 750, then the Yamaha Grizzly 700. CanAm is way down the list! Out in the middle of nowhere RELIABILITY is everything! Good thing CanAm has the charging ports so your ready to charge your phone to call for help.

[@dirttraxtv]

😆

[@mudpuppy318]

Can’t knock the Yamaha I put 1450 hard KM on my 2021 Grizzly SE, only had to change the oil 4 or 5 times, replace the brakes twice and the whole frame once. I’m thinking of getting the outlander 700 XMR cause it looks cool for the price. Hopefully it’s built better than the Grizzly!

[@m8sandman]

When I bought my 22 Grizzly one of the things that stood out like a sore thumb is the brake. One lever for front and back on the Canam and Polaris just SUCKS. Every time I road one just hated it. Can't believe no one has brought this up. I'm getting ready to buy another new 700 and still have not found anything that suits me better than the Grizzly. All the electronics on the Canam are a great gimmick but once you get it you usually set it in one spot and never use it again. Throttle by wire is just another problem waiting to happen. Glad to see the competition, takes forever for Yamaha to ever change anything, and I mean anything they build.

[@greggb681]

I still love a good big bore single tbh.

[@justinmochi7323]

I think we're all rooting for the griz here... it definitely looks better

[@michaelfortier7726]

The P-Drive is much, much bigger than the old ATV CVT setups (this is literally the side by side CVT, bolted into a 50Hp ATV). Belt is 1.5X larger with the P-Drive and dissipates heat much better. Also, transmission gearing ratios are setup to make it basically impossible to burn the belt, even in high gear, no matter how hard you try. You won't be changing the Outlander's belt before you would on a grizzly. The objective with the 700's was to design an incredibly reliable, sporty work horse. The engineering team really delivered. Engine braking, drive modes and speed limiter are all functions controlled by the ECU. They aren't physical items added to the bike which could cause reliability concerns, so they will always work unless you physically break the buttons.