Elnor Died Because Of Borg Queen | Star Trek Picard S02E03

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@DonnyWinter
@DonnyWinter 2 жыл бұрын
That final scene between Raffi and Elnor really hit me hard. Michelle Hurd deserves all the accolades for her acting skills - she was stunning.
@Jadefox32
@Jadefox32 2 жыл бұрын
Telling Picard he doesn't know what she's feeling? No he knows what worse feels like where he was stripped away by the Borg forcibly, he lost his extended family in a fire he knows acutely what she's feeling.
@BobBob-kr5wr
@BobBob-kr5wr 2 жыл бұрын
Its a woman thing. You can never tell them you know what they are going through. Many woman think their own unique trauma is somehow incomparable to everyone else.
@dwfan4va
@dwfan4va 2 жыл бұрын
And Data… he even lost his own life as well. So he’ll be feeling a hell of a lot worse than raffi is
@theyux1
@theyux1 2 жыл бұрын
She is not omniscient, nor purely logic. She is upset with Picard because she knows its probably his fault. And she may be right to some degree.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind how many of his various crews that he sent to their deaths such as that lower decks Bajoran girl... To a certain extent, the entire universe that had the Federation being replaced with an universe with the confederation is on his hands too as well replacing everyone in this confederation universe with those in the federation universe should they succeed in their mission. Regardless of what Picard does, an entire universe of mostly innocent people will simply no longer exist all by his hands and this version of Elnor is also one of them.
@objectdefiance4027
@objectdefiance4027 2 жыл бұрын
More annoying snow flakes. For the love of god. We all know this. God forbid anyone you know while their grieving snaps at you.
@philgaetano6926
@philgaetano6926 2 жыл бұрын
This scene really highlights both personal pain and the scales of greater forces. Every loss is significant, but the greater good has to prevail for all the loss to have meaning.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Space Legolas won't stay dead for too long. Either they go back to the timeline before he's shot or get some nanoprobes from the Queen to revive him later. They did put his body on the ship's morgue so a Neelix-like resurrection later is still possible.
@SoyElDiabloRojo
@SoyElDiabloRojo 2 жыл бұрын
He's only got two near-decaptations this season. He's got a lot more people to horrifically murder!
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoyElDiabloRojo 😄😃
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
@roscosimmons 😄😃😆
@hellfish2309
@hellfish2309 2 жыл бұрын
Elnor was fridged because if not, they’d be forced to write him into the 21st century and 🤷‍♂️ I guess they don’t wanna work that hard; like he’s kinda heeled more than Miles O’Brien so far, impressive considering it’s only been like 13 episodes
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
They are trying to revert the timeline anyways, if they succeed, Elnor will never have left on this mission. Never mind reverting to before the shot, it would be a completely different Elnor who never would've been on the mission if they succeed in their mission. Indeed there would suddenly be other versions of themselves which never went on this mission and they may just become anachronisms whose existence are separate from the timelines, they would be time paradoxes.
@VirtualBilly
@VirtualBilly 2 жыл бұрын
No, Elnor died because Raffi’s got a better agent.
@CaribbeanLady77
@CaribbeanLady77 2 жыл бұрын
WTF they did it to Ichep, Hugh and now Elnor? Anika/Seven could definitely relate to what Raffy was going through having lost Ichep on season 1! I hope when the timeline is restored then all 3 get to come back!
@colin8696908
@colin8696908 2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame the borg queen, she was just trying to survive.
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
I blame the borg queen!
@BobBob-kr5wr
@BobBob-kr5wr 2 жыл бұрын
I think she wants the crew to go exploring inside her so she can assimilate them.
@beh.r_co-mando.1374
@beh.r_co-mando.1374 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I'd rather the Borg Queen then this Romulan petaQ!
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
Blame them for not having backups to their backups...
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobBob-kr5wr Great thinking that may be possible.
@ravenmoon5111
@ravenmoon5111 2 жыл бұрын
Well. Star Trek finally has a great Romulan recurring character and they kill him… Sheesh.
@SoyElDiabloRojo
@SoyElDiabloRojo 2 жыл бұрын
Tomalak knows your location and is coming for you.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoyElDiabloRojo Accompanied by Admiral Sela and Commander Donatra 😄😃
@dmanc85
@dmanc85 2 жыл бұрын
Not even recurring. A main actor!
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
No one is really dead when the plotline is about reverting a timeline as the death never occurred if they succeed.
@michaeljandreau7341
@michaeljandreau7341 2 жыл бұрын
Thats how "Woke" Star Trek is now, kill off Male main characters to promote Female Characters regardless their faults and unpopularity. Hopefully Q can fix that.
@cb-gz1vl
@cb-gz1vl 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it would be cool if Q was a manifestation of Picard's mind.
@captainbeckyrayshoichetuss6418
@captainbeckyrayshoichetuss6418 2 жыл бұрын
But the saddest part of this scene is, having to choose between Elnor or seeing the Federation again. This is how Wesley's dad died the same way. Either it was him or the 2350s Stargazer (which I will now refer to to avoid confusion with Rio's Stargazer).
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
If they bring back the Federation, Elnor would never have been on this mission and hence would never had died. There would just be another living Elnor.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
Not between the Stargazer and Stargazer-A 😊🙄??
@BracerJack
@BracerJack 2 жыл бұрын
The actor playing Raffi is a very VERY good actor...I actually feel the emotions from her...I am so glad she is in the franchise, this scene solidify for me that she is an anchor actor in this franchise.
@wildboarps
@wildboarps 2 жыл бұрын
gotta wonder why Marishka Hargitay won't allow her back on law and order though..
@nepntzerZer
@nepntzerZer Жыл бұрын
i dont get why people think any of these new characters and their actors are any good, because they aren't. this show sucks.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 2 жыл бұрын
I actually LIKE modern Trek but guys cut the cables the Queen is attached to with the phaser
@lumberluc
@lumberluc 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that easy. They shoot the cables, with a Confederation phaser, it'll cause a chain reaction that'll detonate the entire ship's core thanks to a energy surge OR kills the Borg Queen.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
Like that worked so well against M-1 in the original TOS...
@andytay5507
@andytay5507 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, my thoughts, exactly.
@andytay5507
@andytay5507 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumberluc not true, if phaser is controlled carefully
@amidark6518
@amidark6518 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that easy! She Is protected by the best armor of all; Plot Armor
@Goldtaker23
@Goldtaker23 2 жыл бұрын
He will be alive again when timeline goes back to normal
@rezadaneshi
@rezadaneshi 2 жыл бұрын
Only in the timeline they travelled to, he will be born again on Romulus few hundred years in the future.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the Queen's nanoprobes going to revive him in an episode or two from now.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
You'd think that as the federation have backups for their backups, the bio bed should have it's own independent backup power supply with a backup to that independent supply...
@gicking3898
@gicking3898 2 жыл бұрын
An engineer probably could have taken the blasters power-packs and used it for power. Replace Rios, Raffi with Geordi and Data please
@GermanLeftist
@GermanLeftist 2 жыл бұрын
The Federation might, but this is not a Federation ship. It's a Confederation ship, the evil version created by Q.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
@@gicking3898 On TOS, it took forever to refuel the Galileo 7 with their phasers...
@dejanstarwars10
@dejanstarwars10 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, my heart broke for Raffi. She clearly loved him and cared for him, and we know how her biological son rejected her. Also, I don't get why people think Raffi is acting irrationally? Grief causes anger, hatred and she lashed out at Picard for a reason.
@objectdefiance4027
@objectdefiance4027 2 жыл бұрын
Don't question these folks they have an irrational hatred for any and all New Trek. I really wish I didn't get into arguments online with these people because now I whenever I watch an episode and enjoy myself I always think in the back of my mind the specific thing in each episode people are going to hate on. For what it's worth in a decade or two it'll be treated like ST Enterprise. Flawed but good. Whatever is the new shows will be hated then. It's the pattern that happens to new star trek shows. It happened to the next generation, ds9, voyager. It'll keep happening mark my words. The arguments just become more and more traditional and Orthodox.
@j.rileyindependentproductions
@j.rileyindependentproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Not just a reason, an understandable reason. I love the writing this season really showcasing characters who aren't privy to decades' worth of the specific knowledge we as the audience have of other characters. Sure, if she'd grown up watching TNG and VOY, she'd know that Picard is not involved in the decisions that Q plays. It's not a duel between them, it's "put Picard in a maze, let's see how he works his way out of it this time," mentality. Picard is the rat, the test upon which the Q are making judgments. She CANNOT be aware of this, the rest of the cast cannot be aware of this, except potentially the Borg Queen. I do hope there ends up some more deal with the devil aspect later on when it comes to the queen, because as for now, it seems as if she's Picard's best ally in fixing time.
@dejanstarwars10
@dejanstarwars10 2 жыл бұрын
@@objectdefiance4027 Exactly! But even the biggest haters have to admit that this season of Picard is killing it.
@objectdefiance4027
@objectdefiance4027 2 жыл бұрын
@@dejanstarwars10 You'd be surprised actually. There is series of reactionary channels that review these new Star Trek shows and they despise them. And just ignore how much they've been improving as they've gone on. If you do watch any reviews I'd suggest you stick to the ones like certifiably in game, Jesse gender, Trek Central and Lore reloaded they're the good ones. The last one is the strictest if I remember from his reviews of Discovery S3. But I do want to know what do you think of the other new Star Trek shows like discovery and prodigy? I finished prodigy S1 and I'll be finishing Discovery S4 soon. And for me they've both been doing really well and have improved a lot in Discovery's case. I haven't watched lower decks yet though. Prodigy seems to have been the strongest first season of the new shows although It had a few Rocky moments, It got really good by the halfway point through to the end.
@rich1701
@rich1701 2 жыл бұрын
No, it’s just terrible writing.
@harryc1971
@harryc1971 2 жыл бұрын
He will be back, if they succeed they might get Rikers kid back to
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
Plus all redshirt ensigns and lieutenants killed off in six-plus decades of Trek's existence 😄😃
@mindyenglish5305
@mindyenglish5305 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been able to watch the episode yet. My subscription ran out the day before the episode. So this video really crushed my soul. Elnor was so ridiculously beautiful. Like, Legolas pretty. And just so sweet and honest. I don't know if I'll be able to watch the whole thing. But this will probably bring Seven and Raffi closer again. Now they've both lost their adopted sons.
@davidostrowski679
@davidostrowski679 2 жыл бұрын
I watch it on one of those websites where the Russian ladies pop up in the corner
@Simgor2
@Simgor2 2 жыл бұрын
Picard getting blamed for what Q does? Holy hell this is bad writing.
@deadNightwatchman
@deadNightwatchman 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when Starfleet officers were professionals?
@JeffCaplan313
@JeffCaplan313 2 жыл бұрын
Feelings don't care about your facts.
@corvusscottwilliams4751
@corvusscottwilliams4751 2 жыл бұрын
Use the power from the phasers. Been done enough.
@carlotta4th
@carlotta4th 10 ай бұрын
I admit I didn't like Elnor's acting, but when they cut his hair and had him acting more like a kid (hugging people, looking for reassurance) he started to grow on me right when he died. A lot of that is due to Raffi actress's excellent acting with him!
@wompa70
@wompa70 2 жыл бұрын
Really??? So glad this didn't pop up when it was posted. I watched the episode before going to work yesterday and this video still would have spoiled it.
@aarhynandro5884
@aarhynandro5884 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, she is more important than him. On another note, anyone noticed how Elnor is cute/ugly depending on the angle?
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
ELNOR IS A GREAT Charter and does not deserve to die
@carlotta4th
@carlotta4th 10 ай бұрын
I think his acting really stood out in a bad way, but S2 he was a lit better (shorter hair and the crew treating him like they loved the kid helped me feel more *like* a kid and not just a derpy adult).
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
Why did it have to be Elnor to be the one to suffer and die!
@pullybungieharder
@pullybungieharder 2 жыл бұрын
Because he's male, cis-gender, heterosexual, and white.
@easternsun167
@easternsun167 2 жыл бұрын
It was in the script 🤣
@roguesojizukokeleiwatsontu8558
@roguesojizukokeleiwatsontu8558 2 жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY!! I'm so mad right now!! Why?! Why do all my favorite side characters HAVE to die?!?!!!😭😭😭
@heidib.ausd-23xxx78
@heidib.ausd-23xxx78 Жыл бұрын
Now is the only moment - wonderfull words for meditation.
@wj3186
@wj3186 2 жыл бұрын
The Queen can revive him. Seven of Nine should know that. 😬
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
Even Seven technically could've revived him like what she did to Neelix. Although I assume by now she has lost most of her Borg features, including the ability to produce nanoprobes.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
As well succeeding in their mission to revert the timeline.
@Patrick-cc7qm
@Patrick-cc7qm 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that if it wasn't for the borg queen, they all would have died in that battle. They should be thankful they are still alive at this point. And they need her to fix the timeline. So whining and blaming others isn't gonna get her anywhere. And they just killed countless others in this whole thing. So maybe it's time they stop worrying about themselves and feelings for once and actually try to save the timeline.
@Zedeezia
@Zedeezia 2 жыл бұрын
Right the timeline they were in was very soon to be their death. They should feel fortunate to the borg queen for even being alive at this point.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 2 жыл бұрын
Alas, poor Romulan Legolas has died.
@cheyennealvis8284
@cheyennealvis8284 2 жыл бұрын
Elron's the guy with the ring right?
@Blinkncali21
@Blinkncali21 2 жыл бұрын
Q can bring him back!
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it’s all gonna play out.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
Or the Borg Queen (cue nanoprobes).
@chrispeplinski7306
@chrispeplinski7306 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Elnor will be brought back to life
@ssia6938
@ssia6938 2 жыл бұрын
Picard has a twisted notion about sacrificing someone for every mission. They could have unplugged her and kept Elnor alive. This has to be part of his lesson this season.
@MikePaquette
@MikePaquette 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler. Not like I can mute a hashtag on youtube.
@davepowder4020
@davepowder4020 2 жыл бұрын
Space Legolas! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
@jonmchamburger
@jonmchamburger 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks for the spoiler to everyone outside the us!!!!!
@williamjohnson928
@williamjohnson928 2 жыл бұрын
Sure Raffi, Picard just plays games, because at any moment he could just snap his fingers and make Q go away.. oh wait... oops.. nope. 2nd thing, in what freaking universe to they have a sick bay without some back up power sources? I mean they have freaking hand phasers. Sigh... bad writing, is just bad writing.
@gicking3898
@gicking3898 2 жыл бұрын
Raffi is just so troublesome. Bring back Data. And Geordi. And where's Worf dammit? Couldn't Raffi have been shot instead of cool Elnor?
@Doublebarreledsimian
@Doublebarreledsimian 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I've seen, she is the most insubordinate Starfleet officer, second only to Burnam herself.
@ericpmoss
@ericpmoss 2 жыл бұрын
She's the Yoko Ono of Star Trek.
@DeltaSpartan198
@DeltaSpartan198 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doublebarreledsimian Worse than Ensign Ro?
@Doublebarreledsimian
@Doublebarreledsimian 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DeltaSpartan198 Yes. Ro was rough around the edges, but even during extreme situations she would actually compose herself and do what needs to be done. Giving her CO the respect they deserve, and support their decisions. In fact she strove for excellence so well, that she was recommended for special forces training. Raffi on the other hand can't seem to control her emotions. She blamed Picard for Elnor's death, even suggesting that Picard and his "good buddy Q" just play with people's lives. I get she's grieving, but have you ever seen any other officer do that in the older series? Worf has lost people during missions. In one episode he becomes blood brother to a fellow security officer's son, and blames himself. Not his CO. And later acknowledges that it actually wasn't.
@tjames9698
@tjames9698 2 жыл бұрын
The Borg Queen will revive him with nanoprobes because the Borg can do that to dead bodies and revive them. Seven of Nine did it for Neelix.
@seanspear6224
@seanspear6224 2 жыл бұрын
I was sad he died but he will come back.
@andytay5507
@andytay5507 2 жыл бұрын
'no, that's what 'HE' (Q) does! How true.
@johnharrison6745
@johnharrison6745 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Even though I can't stand the "Abrams-verse", 'Disco Trek', and 'Puke Hard', this is actually looking pretty good......
@BritneyLaZonga
@BritneyLaZonga 2 жыл бұрын
Well, someone is blinded by hate....
@johnstach4601
@johnstach4601 2 жыл бұрын
even if they go back,would they fly into the borg entrance before the queen came on board the star gazer and destroy the borg?
@kagato23
@kagato23 2 жыл бұрын
More likely they make a place where the conflict doesn’t need to happen. As silly as it is, Star Trek Lower Decks is canon. And that future has Borg Childen studying in federation classes.
@demarcusfaulkner7411
@demarcusfaulkner7411 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's messed up.
@roystonlodge
@roystonlodge 2 жыл бұрын
What will they do without their space ninja?! If only they had the magic anti-death serum from the Kelvin timeline.
@travisfoster1071
@travisfoster1071 2 жыл бұрын
It's Star Trek, nobody ever dies... and, they find themselves returning from the dead all the time.
@HarvestMoonHowl
@HarvestMoonHowl 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it, but his "death" was probably a plot device. They can't exactly wander Earth in our era with a Romulan in tow, and if he were left with the ship his discovery along with the ship itself would spill every bean in the can.
@K-11609
@K-11609 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarvestMoonHowl I mean, it’s happened with Vulcans before. Both Spock and Tuvok walked around in the past with hats covering their ears
@HarvestMoonHowl
@HarvestMoonHowl 2 жыл бұрын
@@K-11609 That's true. And I admit, Star Trek IV is one of my favorite movies in the franchise simply because it's so campy.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
Or Borg nanoprobes (back in "Voyager" Seven extracted some of hers to resurrect Neelix who's been dead for 24 hours).
@brianlindee220
@brianlindee220 2 жыл бұрын
Elnor did just like the writing staff wanted just like they should have done with doctor culber on discovery
@bobbyspoti234
@bobbyspoti234 2 жыл бұрын
The Raffi dialogue is so unlogical that whoever wrote this shit clearly deserves the dealth penalty
@animemuse8613
@animemuse8613 2 жыл бұрын
When you in morning literally nothing you say is going to be logical. A person she sees as a sort of son died. How would you act
@andreatripodi8908
@andreatripodi8908 2 жыл бұрын
Finally something good
@CurrencyTrader1980
@CurrencyTrader1980 2 жыл бұрын
Nice spoiler...thanks for posting this with this title and no warning.....
@bob23301
@bob23301 2 жыл бұрын
Bye bye character who no one cares about, only other 6 to go. Lol
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't they just extract some of the Queen's nanoprobes to heal/resurrect Elnor? We knew from "Voyager" that nanoprobes could resurrect any dead person, even those who has snuffed out of their mortal coil for sometime (just asked Neelix).
@drmayeda1930
@drmayeda1930 2 жыл бұрын
At the very least 7 should remember the adjustments the doctor did to the nanoprobes. I don 't know if 7 can still produce nanoprobes. The queen is in bad shape.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
@@drmayeda1930 I think Seven has become more or less human by now that she no longer produces nanoprobes. Hence, Borg Queen is the only possible vessel for nanoprobes. She is now recovering and they did put Elnor's body in the morgue instead of launching it into space, so resurrection later is still possible. Neelix was dead for more than 24 hours when Seven's nanoprobes resurrected him. Those harvested from the Queen would've been more powerful, so he could've been dead for a few weeks and is still able to have a Jon Snow-like resurrection.
@champbaka
@champbaka 2 жыл бұрын
@@drmayeda1930 I think normal Seven would be to do it, but here her Borg implants are no longer there so she probably lacks access to Borg know how and ingenuity.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
@@champbaka Agreed. That's why they need the Queen to do it.
@champbaka
@champbaka 2 жыл бұрын
@@LGranthamsHeir still that’s assuming the Picard show runners remember this from Voyager, which I hope.
@Prophet12
@Prophet12 2 жыл бұрын
He'll be back.
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
Elnor🦋❤
@teddy4782
@teddy4782 2 жыл бұрын
Holy spoilers!! :( I don't get to see it on Crave until Friday and this shows up in my KZbin recommendations :(
@bertholdbach4959
@bertholdbach4959 2 жыл бұрын
Right back to making Raffi unlikeable as hell. Her speech shows how bad of a captain she would be.
@jaredstar
@jaredstar 2 жыл бұрын
Grief can make people unreasonable shortsighted and his death just happened
@jaredstar
@jaredstar 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you're thinking but Jared star Roddenberry said there's no grief in the future today I say fuck that noise. That no grief bullshit is one of the stupidest things ever introduced into Star Trek edging out even the whole threshold bullshit. White frankly that whole evolved/out of our infancy bullshit with some of the worst part of early trek
@beh.r_co-mando.1374
@beh.r_co-mando.1374 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredstar Yeh, no one was saying that. She's a shitty, unlikable character who just squaks all the time. And would it kill you to use some punctuation? I had a fucking stroke trying to decipher what you wrote. You wrote "I bet you're thinking but Jared Star Roddenberry said," when you should've wrote "I bet you're thinking: "but Jared Star, Roddenberry said." Whatever shortcomings early Trek had, it blows this schlock out of the water by a warp factor of nine. Lol.
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
This scene makes me want to dislike picard because he let poor Elnor die because "the ONLY Way to get out of the mess "was to keep the queen alive" instead of Elnor. I feel bad for everyone involved except for the borg queen. #Elnor Why picard why would you do this!!
@Spider-Dad40
@Spider-Dad40 2 жыл бұрын
Because when your the captain... You need to make the hard choices the one no one ever wants to make
@BritneyLaZonga
@BritneyLaZonga 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. We have seen time and again that the first duty of a starfleet officer is to the cause / the mission. There are even parts of the command training that demand you to send a subordinate to his death to save the ship / win the mission.
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
@@BritneyLaZonga Very true
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spider-Dad40 very true
@DeltaSpartan198
@DeltaSpartan198 2 жыл бұрын
Remember Jean Luc, it was your arrogance and overconfidence that led to those eighteen dead in the first encounter with the Borg.
@WilliamPitcher
@WilliamPitcher 2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers in the title? Dude!
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 жыл бұрын
.... How much juice would a militarized distortion federation phaser pistol carry?
@PulloffPrime
@PulloffPrime 2 жыл бұрын
that's what Q would call, a bloody nose
@Adam_12azUSA
@Adam_12azUSA 2 жыл бұрын
THX FOR THE SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@breesxmulti
@breesxmulti Жыл бұрын
Poor evans characters never get to live do they😭
@burnbobquist8999
@burnbobquist8999 2 жыл бұрын
Why exactly didn't he "evaporate" when he got shot, since the next scene when they used the same weapons the enemys "evaporated"? Ah well Kurtzman logic i guess. :D
@DanielSMarriott
@DanielSMarriott 2 жыл бұрын
The phasers clearly have different settings, as they always have
@Oriandu
@Oriandu 2 жыл бұрын
Phazers have power settings and Vulcans and Romulans are naturally more durable than humans. Given the circumstances it's very possible that they thumbed it to kill.
@kagato23
@kagato23 2 жыл бұрын
Even in TOS they established that phasers had a variable settings, with the highest being “dissolve conventional material completely” but usually set lower.
@James_T_Quirk
@James_T_Quirk 2 жыл бұрын
All very sad, except they are trying to change Time-Line where Elnor Dies, so Elnor may not be the dead hero you think ..
@KuraMad2000
@KuraMad2000 2 жыл бұрын
Oh relax. Elnor will be back in a couple episodes. Sure he'll be saying weird sh** like "Resistance is Futile!", but he'll be up and about in no time.
@Sniper361984
@Sniper361984 2 жыл бұрын
You couldn't have waited one day before splashing this spoiler all over youtube? This episode isn't available everywhere yet. And before anyone says "just don't watch the video" the title is a pretty explicit spoiler.
@dsnemesis6255
@dsnemesis6255 2 жыл бұрын
OMG Poor Raffi I Feel Bad For You
@TheMaibus
@TheMaibus 2 жыл бұрын
"I know what you're feeling" "Nuh uh" Lady, that's *THE* Picard, he's seen more death in his first year as a cadet than you have or will your entire life, yeah he knows what it feels like.
@easternsun167
@easternsun167 2 жыл бұрын
Vaccination chips ? Huh
@user-us5dr2qi2r
@user-us5dr2qi2r 2 жыл бұрын
So the writers really don't know their Star Trek, 7 used nanotechnology to bring Nelix back to life, they could of done the same here.
@011keepers
@011keepers 2 жыл бұрын
Except 7 doesnt have the nanotechnology anymore..
@user-us5dr2qi2r
@user-us5dr2qi2r 2 жыл бұрын
@@011keepers then Picard is human again.
@quinnbaygo2112
@quinnbaygo2112 2 жыл бұрын
Where sisko pimp hand, when you need it because she would have caught it. The nerve of these shitty writers. Picard of all people knows lost. How he's the last of his family and his nephew died leaving him. Having data die in nemesis, and person thats like a son. The spouting about Q, she's lucky Q don't snap her,, amazing Picard gets slap but not her??? That said, less address the hack writing. Why not use those phasers or hand computers. And no back-up or hand held generator. Heck even submarines/ships have emergency hand pumps.
@kevinwiltshire2217
@kevinwiltshire2217 2 жыл бұрын
The younger Captain Picard with a cheater out talking like that
@Dorkalicious
@Dorkalicious 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no the mass murderer died
@jobe13
@jobe13 2 жыл бұрын
No, he died because you couldn’t make a post with a spoiler tag for a clip that’s not even a day old.
@followerofjulian1652
@followerofjulian1652 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest that we keelhaul Raffi! 🤣 🤣🤣
@AloneInWonder2683
@AloneInWonder2683 2 жыл бұрын
And Just like that Putting this on the Do not recommend channels. That's for the spoiler you Waste of time.
@rezadaneshi
@rezadaneshi 2 жыл бұрын
I love Star Trek. But, timelines move into their future at light speed. What you do in the past will move into its future at the same speed of the present one does. What we do in the past will never catch up to the present we left in time travel stories. To see the effects of the change, you Must remain in the past that you changed to see its results. Also, one cannot travel to the past even if we find anti-gravitons. Flow of time is responsible for gravity not the other way around.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 2 жыл бұрын
So what you are saying, is that Star Trek is not a documentary?
@BobBob-kr5wr
@BobBob-kr5wr 2 жыл бұрын
Think you missed the part where the said Star Trek was science fiction. Also there is still an ongoing debate as to weather time actually exists, or is it simply a human construct to make sense of the universe.
@rezadaneshi
@rezadaneshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobBob-kr5wr as intellectual evidence for your next debate, time in the sense of causality exist since I didn’t reply to you before your comment. Everything from math to physics is a human construct. Reminder, even synthetics are natural unless you’re lost in definitions to just have an argument.
@MrBennylargo
@MrBennylargo 2 жыл бұрын
@@rezadaneshi But there are theories and evidence to support them that you may have done exactly that. Or that all moments in the universe exist simultaneously.
@BobBob-kr5wr
@BobBob-kr5wr 2 жыл бұрын
@@rezadaneshi If you want to use causality for time that is a valid argument. As for math and physics I disagree. Nature and the universe in general are governed by these laws. All humans did was give them names and figure out how they operated.
@flavorgod
@flavorgod 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Seven have Nanoprobes?
@danpitzer765
@danpitzer765 2 жыл бұрын
Not in that timeline. Picard doesn't either. They don't have any of their implants. Only nanoprobes left in that timeline are in the Queen, the Confederacy destroyed all other Borg.
@ultramaximusreviews
@ultramaximusreviews 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the EMH? Oops... wrecks the plot line... there's some not very good writing in this show
@dirdib69
@dirdib69 2 жыл бұрын
How can they go on without discount!Legolas?
@2QRh6g1I
@2QRh6g1I 2 жыл бұрын
How many sins would that count as?
@dmc7554
@dmc7554 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn spoilers bro. You really gonna put this title up on people's feeds a day after the show is released?
@dexterdog62
@dexterdog62 2 жыл бұрын
Elnor’s DEAD?? I mean wtf? Why??
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 2 жыл бұрын
oh no this new charapicter of 2 episides dies.
@dmanc85
@dmanc85 2 жыл бұрын
Elnor was in the whole of Series 1....
@josephsheranda
@josephsheranda 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's a hell of a spoiler to stumble across. Glad I don't care about this awful show.
@aleisha1892
@aleisha1892 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't they have just killed the queen so Elnor could survive.
@blairbrown4812
@blairbrown4812 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently,the crew needed the Queen's knowledge of time travel to arrive at the point where history went off the rails in order to make things right. Needs of the many,and all that.
@jamesparochetti5279
@jamesparochetti5279 2 жыл бұрын
This show is great and then Raffi has to be all woke on Picard ffs.
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 2 жыл бұрын
Awful.
@danielberry4765
@danielberry4765 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Too many useless characters in this show. Last season most of them stood hung around. Good to see Jeri Ryan back in the saddle, shame the character she is playing is nothing like the one she played on Voyager.
@pepps779
@pepps779 2 жыл бұрын
These 'emotional' scenes always make Raffi come off like an unprofessional buffoon.
@PaintedSavages
@PaintedSavages 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks SO much for spoiling crap before I got to see it. -__-
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 2 жыл бұрын
Lol you gotta stay off certain sites and apps if you wanna avoid spoilers 😆 Also is that you in your profile picture?
@issaibrahim9832
@issaibrahim9832 2 жыл бұрын
They ruined star trek
@walterdayrit675
@walterdayrit675 2 жыл бұрын
Since when did Raffy care so much for Elnor? Also how come Picard doesn't care so much about Elnor now? This is simply bad writing.
@dejanstarwars10
@dejanstarwars10 2 жыл бұрын
She warmed up to him in Season 1, and since they lived together for two years (post Season 1), they clearly bonded and she became a mother to him.
@mgtowmonger2729
@mgtowmonger2729 5 ай бұрын
@@dejanstarwars10 i thought she was banging him on the down low?
@hhh1200
@hhh1200 2 жыл бұрын
RAffi/Elnor plot was annoying. Let him die and move on with the sorry instead of her whining half of the episode.
@chrisalexthomas
@chrisalexthomas 2 жыл бұрын
....and nothing of value (that wasn't a complete silly waste of time) was lost. Elnors character was pointless and silly anyway. He seemed forced, a weird little space ninja. He has no history in any star trek show and his relationship with picard wasn't even well developed. It just seemed like an awkward strange thing that didn't need to be. And why is raffi so pissed about it? She has no previous relationship with him either, not that we know of. So I really just don't understand what the point of any of these relationships are or how they work. They're just random, disconnected, and weird. Nothing about them is natural. Another example, who the fuck is raffi? She was never a character in any previous show but turns up in season one like picards super best friend... wtf? How did that happen? no clue. Interpersonal relationships in this show are just wild and unnatural
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