Enneagram: Do Type 5's Make Good Leaders?

[@RealTalkwithBellaTT]

It took me 27 years to realize I have to start doing rather than planning with no action. I def can get caught in the loophole of perfection.

[@user-he4lj5wl7w]

Same 🙂

[@JulsMWK1995]

Listening to the 5’s videos are so entertaining because you can explain my husband so well. The dump truck analogy is right on. We are at social gatherings and he goes on and on about something and people are politely waiting for him to end. He doesn’t pick up on the social cue that no one cares. 😂 yet on the flip side, he has no patience to listen to others talk about something he doesn’t care about.

[@charlesnorris4345]

My 5W6 “motto” is on my coffee cup at work. “Be brief, be bright, be gone.”

[@xdproductions3087]

Very Vulcan 🖖

[@DD-zs6mk]

I want that coffee cup!

[@karineroumache9124]

People became much more interesting when I understood emotions were information, too, and not to be discarded.

[@mohamedmansour1068]

Yeah, ever since I found out about that, I started using my very few friends, co-workers and family as my lab rats 🤔 which makes feel creepier!!

[@candicechristiason]

Exactly!!! I love collecting emotional information, but my “thing” is neuroscience so I love figuring out how people think and process. 😘🧠

[@SimplyDrK33]

Good point

[@Bioniking]

I just discovered the enneagram and have been trying to actively incorporate emotion into my life and relationships. There's an anxiety to it (which I understand is the ego/personality fighting back), but it's one of the most gratifying things I've ever done. It's a whole new world to explore, and it adds richness to my life.

[@jackmilligan550]

There are always unconscious thoughts behind emotions and there are always unconscious emotions behind thoughts...

[@GuppyPal]

The mad scientist working in his secret lair... LOL. Now THAT is right on the bullseye. As a 5 who is can laugh at all the mistakes/social blunders described in this video because they were me when I was younger, I can say that the best way for a 5 to get ahead in life is to develop their social and emotional intelligence. That is our weakness by nature. Develop that as much as you possibly can, and it will allow you to exercise your strengths and really get ahead in life, really do great things. If you're not good socially, it doesn't matter how smart and knowledgeable you are, other people will not want to work with you. Develop yourself in every area so that you can exercise your strengths.

[@generalrendar7290]

My most successful instance of leadership was when I got hired on to teach at a flight school that was floundering. There wasn't any time to plan on how to fix things, I had to focus on putting out the fires that I could and leaving some of the less important issues for later. I took on a "lead from the front" style, and I was able to fix so many issues from the back office, to the front desk, to aircraft maintenance. I essentially went to each department and asked what they thought needed to be done and we hammered out plans to enact fixes and I checked in regularly to see how they felt the changes were going. I also trained people outside my department when they were struggling with how to use certain programs and new practices. I quickly got promoted to Asst Chief and essentially ran the school and expanded it through the pandemic.

[@yogasimplifiedmethod]

Being a 5 I laughed so hard when you said, “nobody cares Martha!” because I’m totally guilty of just getting on a topic and dumping information. Luckily I have a partner that just sits there and goes, “ok, that’s nice.” 😂😂😂

[@cyex4311]

When an information dumper meets another information dumper though 😮

[@bridgetteluck4292]

The Myers Briggs type is going to play into this. I'm an INFJ. Everything is pretty accurate. I think healthy fives want to take all the information they gather and develop systems. I currently am obsessed with learning about permaculture.

[@cjsa7174]

I’m an ISTP and a Castle 5, so I got a few extra servings of introversion...hahaha.

[@Acumen928]

I don't think NF idealists fit the description of 5s. This sounds like NTs to me especially NTPs

[@vazzaroth]

INFJs and INTPs are pretty universally 5's, usually 5w4. I am INTP and my wife is INFJ and we both think 5 is our wing, for sure. We both test pretty high for 9 too, though, so I don't prefer this system. Enneagram seems more focused on feelers and extroverts (Not surprising with its Christian/organized religion ties) whereas MBTI/Jungian theory fits intuitive a bit better. (And has more room for both thinkers and feelers, but defines feeling a little less than enneagram)

[@lizandro7728]

I’m an INTJ, I’m currently obsessed with finances, mainly the Stock Market.

[@dnlxl]

most 5's are INTPs

[@febrasko]

The part about 5s engaging in things that don't really matter from the safety of their chairs instead of using their intellect in the real world really got me lol. This resonated with me and I should do something about it.

[@abhishekmasih9025]

When a 5 tells you they're gonna build a nuclear reactor in a garage... never underestimate a 5 they might actually build a nuclear reactor in their garage!!😂 that was the best pun for type 5 ive ever heard

[@miaa7365]

i'm a five and when i told my parents i wanted to go to mars they laughed at my face...ha 😏

[@abhishekmasih9025]

@@miaa7365 hahaha tell me all about it when we bump into each other on mars someday 😂✌

[@imjustrambling]

I agree with most of this (lol coming in like a 5) except for one small, but important caviot. For me, can't really speak to others, when I back my dump truck of information on to others it's not to show off what I know. It's in an attempt to be helpful. More of a: "I have this information that you don't. Perhaps this information will be helpful in your decision making or be able to correct a misconception. Therefore, I will share my knowledge with you. Yay! I helped." Though, I get the impression that most people see it as showing off or as an attack of sorts, so...not so yay.

[@vazzaroth]

Like the info but this is a great example of WHY 5's (INTPs for my experience) withdraw. If you're someone that doesn't like what other people need/demand out of you, the only logical course is to withdraw. Extroverts and people like this host (Tom) should attempt to cross the aisle a little more and come towards us. Not that it's OK to stay sheltered in your house forever, but I really cannot express in a single YT comment how toxic and destructive to my own self worth it's been with a lifetime of constant criticism from extroverts and outgoing types who think I am wrong and broken. Simply because I do not go out of my way to serve THEIR needs, yet rarely take even a single step in my direction. Or if they DO, it's only with a begrudging resignation of "leaving me alone" or whatever. Which is, many time, EVEN WORSE. You get the message: Ok, FINE, you FORCE ME, I'll give you what you NEED! Ugh! You're soooo inconvenient for ME! Regardless of the intention, this is the received message. WHen you get this message from someone, surely even you non 5's/introverted types can understand that, from our perspective, we are doing the only thing that makes any sense in our reality. Just so all ya'll extro's know.

[@user-he4lj5wl7w]

💯

[@meeshchief8416]

As a 5 and a Star Wars fan... you took me out at "Well actually... it's never been proven that anyone lived on planet Tattoonie" 😂😂

[@ciaranm3083]

As a type 5, I'd say that we'd make good leaders when paired with a people person, like a partnership. If I have to deal with people a lot I don't think I'd be super effective.

[@MrMatt-qs2ck]

The first 19 minutes, NAILED IT. This is a great explanation why 5's may think they are 7's. Looking forward to finishing the rest.

[@zjw5]

I think 5s can hold information when they see the futility in sharing it with someone that is too closed off to hear it or can tell they don't care, also struggling with have I gotten enough information that it is worthy of presenting yet, or in the trap of the love of gathering so much that there isn't time or to share it, or waiting to make novel connections and find that niche that it's worthy of sharing

[@Destractoid]

Absolutely nailed it

[@adidsoccr2]

Wow as a 5 myself you are helping me to understand why i approach teaching the Bible the way I do and how I always want to challenge assumptions in doing so

[@AGirlwithherHelmet]

The part about role-playing games is really true and on point. I'm a 5w6, and I can spend more than 8 hours a day playing multiple characters in an RPG, to the point where I set multiple alarms to fight different bosses when they spawn.

[@mwatson4970]

But we DON'T LIKE SMALL TALK! Advice: Talk abt something we like to get us interested in forming more connection with you.

[@rajachemali7977]

lolol!!!! I love it man! I’m a 5 and you made me laugh all throughout the video! It’s so true! I relate perfectly and laughed at myself and learn something new or at least you reminded me that we can learn also from people! And learn emotional stuff too not only for gathering data but also to simply relate and love! Thanks for saying that, I’ll keep it in mind! I love your videos btw and your nice vibes!

[@celestiacrystal9317]

Oh god, the “dumping information” part, was actually painful to listen too, I know this too well... It’s like you’ve spent all this time learning and analyzing everything about this (probably stupid and unimportant) topic and you finally wanna share the results and you just get hit with the “I don’t care” and “I didn’t ask for this”... Like damn mom, I was just trying to bond with you...

[@twlahue]

Nice. Thanks for your comment. Blessings.

[@MagicApple03]

I feel this on a spiritual level hah

[@DelightfulGem]

I know right..... I went into financial advisory thinking it's a useful field to learn about. It turns out, people generally just don't care.. But when they get told by ads how to make money.... They'll zoom towards it.... Not caring about the fine prints..

[@mb7626]

I’m doing it anyways lol, when you feel some spirit of revelation working through you how could you stymie that?? It would be a betrayal! If they just want to sit there quietly, that's perfectly fine with me, I'm not going to quiz them on it.

[@cjsa7174]

It’s so freeing to not need attention or validation. Attention seekers will push their own mothers in front of a bus for a few extra kudos. I may not warm and fuzzy, but I do have integrity. Plus, I can be fun and interestingly unpredictable, when it suits me.

[@ChuckMeIntoHell]

The nuclear reactor in the garage isn't that much of a stretch. My 5 dad built a jet engine in the backyard.

[@margaretjudice8944]

My son that tested to be an 8 really is a 5. This info in this video was a good description of him. Good info!

[@ashleyching3166]

Re-watching this from my lair

[@blueravenstar4162]

Are we related? My grandma's last maiden name was Ching

[@austintrauth5820]

Hey Tom, I'm an INTJ 5w4 and I got pretty lucky because my niche is clinical, developmental, and social psychology. I'm sure I'm an INTJ because I resonate the most with one. But here's the thing, I'm a 5w4. I'd assume most INTJ type 5's fall into the 5w6 category and really focus on data and facts but if you knew me I'm clearly a 5w4. I LOVE the lore of games like Dark Souls and Destiny and have always had an interest in philosophical ideologies and things of the like(greatly involving psychology and why I think the way I do and everything that goes into it). I focus a lot on esoteric and hard to grasp subjects that can be viewed in many different angles. My friends have always joked with me about being a conspiracy theorist and talking about hard to grasp subjects such as Carl Jung's teachings. Anyways, I'm sure of my types. The problem I'm facing is finding the Hero's path(I'm 17 by the way). I want to be able to successfully integrate and acquire the positive traits of an 8, but I'm having trouble finding my path of healing. Again, I'm an INTJ 5w4 and my niche is psychology. One of the biggest problems I've come across in myself is that I'll acquire a ton of information I know will help a great deal of people and possibly even reform or even save lives for the better, but I can't clearly get the information across. A lot of times I'll lock up a little and be stingy with my information because I know the person I'm talking to won't be able to take it all in and process it. I desperately want to mature into myself to where I can clearly elucidate and clarify complex and 'theoretical' topics that I delve into such as things like the enneagram, psychology, and understanding the shadow(Carl Jung's teachings). I just don't know where exactly to start and I was wondering if you could give me a little insight to what type of action I could take to develop into a higher version of myself and shed myself of negative feelings such as insecurity and loneliness and become more empathetic and authentic(things I've had trouble with in the past). Any insights as to how I could become a better speaker and feel and understand my emotions a little better? Or are there any steps I could take? Or any links you have for the development of a Type 5 INTJ? And by the way your videos have already helped me more than you could imagine. They've given me a catalyst to heal my repressed emotions and bring my shadow to light.

[@twlahue]

Wow, this is an incredible comment. Very well written as well. Part of the 5 going to 8 is that they are able to articulate and communicate their information well, as you have done here. They move from the withdrawn 5 space to the assertive 8 space. When you speak with others consider that you are probably going to have to summarize information into smaller bytes for them to take it in. Also try to pay attention to social norms such as greeting rituals and etiquette. Small talk and social pleasantries, no matter how insignificant they might seem, is the grease on the wheels of relationships.

[@austintrauth5820]

Dr. Tom LaHue I really appreciate it. I’ll start working on doing that because something I’ve noticed is that I can build relationships, but I’m not even close to being consistent with them. I’ll spark an interest in someone and then feel almost fake, like I have to put on a show of me being more outgoing and sociable. But as I integrate more into an 8 I’m sure these minor things will fall into place. Anyways thanks again, you’re helping me more than you realize👍🏻

[@user-qn1ce6ev6y]

Haven't heard you speak before, but I appreciate you a lot after listening to this. Thanks!

[@938quilt]

I consider myself a 5 but I"ve learned to greet people, deal with the greet people at church, etc. I think it's helped me lean more towards 6 but I"m still uncomfortable with a lot of emotion and disorganization

[@slowrideoverlanding1483]

5w4, INTJ- recently found your channel, only two vids watched so far; you have great understanding of this type

[@MrAgentTurner]

The point about 7s wanting to inspire but 5s want to point out a flaw in their logic was scarily accurate. All the change I want in the world, I imagine doing it by converting and educating the dumb and ignorant.

[@DelightfulGem]

Oh yeah.... I could easily go to sleep without brushing my teeth, if i weren't taught to feel guilty for doing so.... Love these... All so spot on!! I have real challenges trying to learn to be interested in people.

[@JamesTaylor-ir4ou]

Holy crap. Wasn't totally sure I was a 5 until you mentioned playing Civilization (my guilty pleasure).

[@heatherdera]

Oi, I am very hygienic. I shower every day, brush my teeth 2-4 times per day (depending on how much sugar I've been consuming that day), and always make sure I don't stink. (Then again, I do wear stained clothes sometimes and eat after handling my pet rats without washing my hands first, so a point for you there. I guess it's more that I want an appearance of being completely hygienic?)

[@charlespackwood]

Amazing amount of good information.

[@metalnorthoutoors]

5w4. I don't agree the fear of the outside word. I moved to the mountains as an 18 year old. I skied the some of biggest terrain parks in the country, skied out of bounds and took a lot of risks. Now hike deep in the woods in pursuit of whitetail deer. I put myself in dangerous situations often and always looking for the next adventure. I am particular about who I spend my time and energy on. I like off beat passionate people. I Have been accused of being over invested in my hobbies. I think I'm good in most social situations and am very aware of what is going on with others. I also don't agree with the 'preservation of energy' I'm almost always on tilt with my time, money and energy.

[@Nina55870]

Ooh God i was struggling if I’m 5 or 8 I’m definitely a 5 i laughed so hard when u said nobody cares martha i always have 2 plans to connect or to shut down and information I’m giving you for me is like 1% about what I know haha thanks Dr. Tom

[@millball]

But facts are the real world... But the frustrating thing I've found in various workplaces is they don't like efficiency and when you talk to them straight!

[@keithparker1346]

I think the real world is far more fluid than we want to believe

[@melindawong88]

I'm loving what you're doing so much hahaha. It's bringing me so much more perspective and helping me take note of the patterns in my life and what God is doing in my life is now a lot more apparent. Towards the end, you mentioned that you would like to talk to more Type 5s to find out how we go through different aspects of life? I would love to be that person if you ever want to talk to a 5 hahaha and I think I'm quite an interesting 5 too, not quite the stereotypical 5.

[@twlahue]

Wow, I checked out your channel. Amazing music. Keep it up. Great voice and very talented. Thanks for volunteering, I might have to take you up on that offer...Blessings.

[@MrAgentTurner]

A stereotypical 5 is probably best at first tho. I imagine you're 5w4

[@olyasorokina3780]

Are fives just grey rocking it through life? Especially that metaphor where a five is a village hermit spending all their time learning how to cast spells against a dragon. It really reminds me of a grey rocking strategy (hermit) + trying to figure out how to handle a volatile narcissist (dragon) once and for all.

[@aelishbarker4086]

My thoughts process lead me there too! That's exactly what I do...not sometimes. A lot. Especially in workplace settings.

[@charlespackwood]

So the 5 is the guy you want calling the shots where the lack of foresight or information can kill you; eg: do you really want to pull that lever to the nuclear reactor after a series of fail-safes have been circumvented.

[@alextotle3469]

No high FIVE for you Doc. Fives are the most misunderstood types of all types...primarily because we don't fit your mold...the box you are trying to put is in to cater to the general population's value system. If you Label me...if you put me in a box...you negate and limit me said Keigegaard. You miss out all the possibilities that I can be. As a Five, I like the freedom to flow in all that IS. We don't get stuck on any one tree. We enjoy the whole forest. And yes, we enjoy hugs...you just don't get to decide when and where. And I do not apologize for that. We live in hypersensitive times...where people are needy and clingy...the age of coddling and the death of Tough Love. Sad. However, we care about our fellow beings and our planet...but I don't have to show you that by protesting and holding up a picket sign. I help by changing myself...my energy habits. I help by being self-aware and making adjustments in my life, considering all of life. We are are interdependent after all. No person is an island...not even Fives. We KNOW that...trust me. To all my FIVES...I send you a HIGH FIVE!! Stay focused, imaginative, and curious!

[@twlahue]

Thanks Alex... wow.

[@iamsquidzy]

You mad bro?

[@keithparker1346]

A bit pompous as if 5s are special

[@sidney2900]

I didn’t even wanna watch this bc I was scared you’d say no and then I would feel salty 🤣 I feel like being a leader is my calling

[@ZhiyingHarp]

Some parts of this video , i cannot relate, because of my 4 influence. i'm either 5w4 or 4w5 and I'm ISFP. I'm equally as emotional as I am detached. I have difficulties with boundaries. I don't awkward people out as I'm really nice person to be with. I do have issues navigating powerfully in social network and within an organisation and hierachy because i tend to be loner. Even when I try to be invisible, i tend to stand out because of my E4 dressing style. I'm not really a computer game nerd kind of person, though i did used to play some computer games like Lara Croft and The Sims. and yup, i love to do research.

[@bradleywesterford3587]

'when you do things right, people won't know you've done anything at all'- God

[@maribel5478]

I always struggle with events on my mind, about attending. But at least I go and talk to a group of people I go home about 1 or 2 hours that I went to mingle.

[@JulsMWK1995]

My husband think he is on the spectrum (high functioning) but the more I hear the type 5 videos I think he is the way he is because he’s a 5 and not necessarily on the spectrum. The enneagram 5 describes him better than on the autism spectrum. Our son does have autism which is why we question if my husband does. But my son has much greater challenges and learning disabilities.

[@bradleywesterford3587]

I'm a 5w4, and I've always done better as the no.2 vs the no.1.

[@isa-manuelaalbrecht2951]

Intj = 5/6 overhere..like to be the leader in the non-seen background 😁🤩🤭🥳

[@isa-manuelaalbrecht2951]

First intuition..second thinking..3d. inferieur feeling..4d.acting due to all infos we got...great success ..sometmes..😁🤩😚

[@isa-manuelaalbrecht2951]

Dumping in with secret infos without any interest for anybody is for my opinion Harari- like..a littke more then sick * being over da quota* 😁😚🤑🤪🙄

[@vunguyentr5561]

Love your sharing, thanks so much

[@lotus5w4sxsp]

Lol I have been wearing the same over cloths for over a week now and I have long dark brown hair that has not been taken for a shower for a week. I look like I am feral. My former husband used to call me Tarzan or Wildthing.

[@HolisticLifeUnscripted]

I think I became a 5 when my world blew up with divorce and kids’ health problems and financial problems all at once. I was emotionally and physically overwhelmed and went into a protective mode for survival purposes. As my world has calmed down over the years I’m not sure I can make my way out of the “5” type lol. I’m afraid to open up to connection again because I’m afraid of being overwhelmed again. I think I used to be a 7. Idk maybe I have ptsd 🤔 Is that a thing? Can people switch types after life events?

[@HolisticLifeUnscripted]

I’m very close with my own kids tho. I think my teenager is a hard core 5 so we understand each other and feel safe together for the most part.

[@MX-CO]

I majorly over plan

[@KatanaKamisama]

The world: Leave your basement 5's, touch grass. 5's: We prefer the term "Wizard's Tower", and it would behoove you to climb these stairs with us some day. You can see things from up here that others can't.

[@candicechristiason]

Untrue, I love good hygiene 💁🏻‍♀️💁🏻‍♀️ I think your view of 5 is based on tech nerds.

[@cjsa7174]

What’s wrong with being a tech nerd, besides I shower every two weeks, whether I need to or not ;).

[@candicechristiason]

Chrislynn Sharp hey, you do you boo! One of my pet peeves happens to be labeling people; honestly, it’s my biggest struggle with the enneagram. A lot of Christians use it to “understand” themselves better, but the Truth is each one of us is uniquely made in the image of God. Not one of us is the same, we are are all so complex, and I believe the enneagram creates limits for people, even excuses for ungodly behavior. But hey, that’s just one human’s opinion.

[@provenduck1959]

Teacher: Okay guys, group up no more that three people in the group Me: (being the 5 that I am) ... 👉👈 Teacher: *looks at me* Teacher: or you can do it individually

[@crownironman]

it's actually pronounced "TAT-TWO-WEEN" (yes I am a 5)

[@joshuaguyswhite3570]

yeah. i cringed so hard when he said that lol

[@benruhlig6359]

I like your videos, but I think having a child who is 5 makes you biased in some ways that you should acknowledge. Don't let a teenage representation of a 5 (specifically a 5w4) skew your perspective of what a healthy adult 5 is like.

[@thegigadykid1]

Intp type 5

[@ashleyching3166]

Whoa, social media is like Dungeons and Dragons

[@n57flyguy]

Thats an interesting observation. I think its eaiser for 5s to get deeper/addicted to dopamine fixes

[@andrebrunel5131]

You know about bakugan?!!!

[@DougTozier]

OMG! Tatooine.

[@GainFitnessSystems]

INFJ 5 somehow I doubt it, INTJ I can see it but being an INFJ is almost totally against being a five. Most important INFJs who believe they’re fives are just fours

[@twlahue]

Interesting observation.

[@kchild71]

GainFitnessSystems I am an INFJ 5w4. I’m a text book 5. If you spend 5 minutes with me you would have no doubt. That’s why you will find that the INFJ will withdraw if they feel emotionally overloaded. They are considered a paradox. The 5w4 has a head/heart battle going on at all times.

[@kchild71]

I cannot handle doing anything against my moral code or intentionally causing harm. I cannot tolerate ignorance either, including my own, which can at times look like arrogance.

[@GainFitnessSystems]

What you’re describing is more 4 than five if I’m honest, with five there’s no battle between head and heart it’s all head and zero heart, it takes a lot digging to find the heart of a five...

[@zacharybennett3249]

@@kchild71 You don't read like an INFJ at all. Type 5, sure. Everybody wants to be "special", but assigning the ego is not how it happens.

[@ashleyching3166]

It's okay; Tom's just jealous of us 5's :-P

[@cjsa7174]

I love being a 5, talk about leading an untethered life. I feel like a wild stallion, running free in an open field.

[@EmTreasure88]

14:07 me with my art project be like

[@mohamedmansour1068]

Dr LaHue, I'm a Five, would you advise me to include that information in my CV? Or do you think it would be rediculous?

[@Scents4em]

I think it depends on the job you are seeking. If you are looking for a people-oriented job, it may be beneficial. For a technical job, it may not matter or be appropriate. As fives, we have a desire to present the piece of information that will tell readers everything they need to know. Unfortunately, it’s usually not that easy. BUT, if a Five reads your CV perhaps they will be more interested in interviewing you! I used my MBTI in a CV for a job as a clinical social worker and got the job! Would it work as well if I was applying to be an engineer?....maybe not 🙂

[@johncapps6728]

Your Beard is crooked under your lip 🤣 I'm infj5. Thanks for the video

[@ZhiyingHarp]

I guess you can say that 5s are Thought Leaders.

[@asalane20]

What scientific basis does the Enneagram have?

[@twlahue]

The Enneagram is not widely accepted within the psychological or psychiatric academic communities as being scientifically validated. Unlike psychological typologies that have seen extensive research, like the Big Five Personality Traits, the Enneagram is primarily a tool used in the realm of personal development and spirituality. The Enneagram was developed without an evidence-based scientific approach, and rather emerged from a mix of spiritual traditions and philosophical concepts. However, this doesn't mean it's without value. Many people find it a helpful tool for introspection, self-awareness, and understanding others, and some preliminary studies have suggested potential correlations with other psychological typologies. If you're using the Enneagram as a tool for personal growth or to understand others better, it can certainly be useful. But keep in mind that it doesn't have the same level of empirical support as some other personality models, and it should not be used as a diagnostic tool or as a substitute for professional psychological help. As always, new research may continue to shape our understanding of the Enneagram and its utility.

[@JohnSmith-ij6ms]

lol i lost it at bakugan

[@userdata9511]

L from Death note?

[@heatherdera]

Tatooine, not Tatoonie..... :X

[@keithparker1346]

Lol I've not reached that part I'm guessing that he mispronounces it...that will upset the Star Wars nerds

[@groot7380]

Dr. Tom, are you spying me? Kk

[@aquariusstar7248]

This sounded like a male 5 with all of these examples.

[@cinema2748]

Why do you keep on laughing ??!! Do you get that you are coming across as rude ?