V30 SPEAKER COMPARISON: Marshall Vintage, Fryette P50E & Celestion Vintage 30 | METAL

[@Dandrok]

omg, the marshall one is brutal.

[@MetalZoned]

Wow, I recently discovered the p50e and love it, awesome to see you give it some attention! Awesome video!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool! Thanks!

[@seanmorgan9020]

Never stop uploading, man. Everything you do is quality! Anyhoo, I imagine an SD 1 would work better with the Marshall Vintage, more low end cut and such.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@dasistthomsen9]

Always high quality perspectives and content from this man , appreciated

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear! Thanks!

[@hioctn]

Another quality video from you sir. I am pleasantly amazed at the P50 speaker, it has a smoothness to it that I like. Thanks so much for all the informative videos that you have made. They are a huge help.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Glad to hear!

[@07elraton]

I’m surprised I can hear such a difference even on iPad speakers. The Marshall vintage sounds the most full and musically appealing to me. Great video as always, Euge!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@guitarexpert2245]

Thank goodness your doing this video. So many are mis informed about the Marshall Vintage saying it's Not a Vintage 30, or there is no difference in tone. This video will prove them all incorrect. I bought a used Marshall 1960BV a few months ago, also have a Marshall 2536 Silver Jub 2x12 cab same speakers. I will never part with these 2 cabs for sure. Great video again my friend. Keep up the good work.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! 👌💪.

[@XxGDUBxX7]

Thanks for these vids man. Pretty sweet to hear all of the speakers 🤘 got myself UK celestion v30 and neo creamback couple days ago

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool man! Thanks!

[@TobyKBTY]

V30's = Thinner, but bright and cutting. VHT = Incredibly muscular and ballsy. Very full. Marshalls = beautifully balanced. My favorite from the bunch. But that was such a quality shootout, the tone was incredible overall regardless of speaker. Instantly brought me back to the old In Flames vibe.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I must say that I agree 100% with you about the speakers 👌.

[@Hoscitt]

For me the Marshall dumps on the other two in the mix. Great vid 🤘👍

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@ziggyz2958]

Well done interesting comparison. They each definitely have their own sound. I was very impressed with the Marshall tone! I also really like the Celestion's. I have 2 of them in a Mesa Recto cab and that is my favorite cab for anything heavy/aggressive.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@dinohendrajacob7992]

this is great comparison..comparing the bread and butter of metal speakers..big thankks 🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear! Thanks!

[@guidefreitas]

Marshall Vintage seems to work better in the mix. Nice vídeo and awesome work as always. Greetings from Brazil!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@Teemu78]

Very good video. I'd love to see you make similar video only adding one more element in here and that would be the hesu demon element. Alternatively there could be comparison of all these elements in their own respective 4x12 cabinets. In this video the Marshall one one was best for my ears - Rock on!

[@Teemu78]

I would add that it would be super awesome to also hear a room mic'd version to understand how these behave when not miking.

[@maddoxmay611]

The pitbull speaker is like a blend of the T-75 and v30, I really like how that one sounds

[@woodward_alan]

I would love to have the isolated tracks to try to tone match on my side. These explanations are really helping me.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Send me an email to: [e-mail] and let’s see if we can work something out 😎

[@jrtme]

Awesome as always. You need another 57. If you were in Nashville. You could borrow a couple of mine. Some 421s too. 😀

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! 😎🤟

[@RomanRotten]

The Marshall is the most full and balanced. Fryette has some really tasty mid scoop which I like. Great for Metal. Now I wanna put 2 of them into my Marshall BV 4:12 cab;)

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟. I have two of the Fryette’s for sale on Reverb.com.

[@Brandon-RZ]

Man, I may need to get me a Fryette cab. Sounds great!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! I have four of those speakers (sold my cab, kept the speakers) and might be willing to sell two of them so email me if you’re interested: [e-mail]

[@o-meg-a6043]

Much bigger fan of the original Marshall Vintage speaker and the P50E really surprised me. The modern V30 uses a lot of different materials vs the original and it shows.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah the P50E is quite unique speaker but really cool 🤟.

[@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio]

Great comparison Euge! Good sound difference... The other video you made comparing the Vintage Marshall vs. the V30, I thought the V.M. sounded better and once again same here... Very cool man!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man!

[@Drew_Vernon]

They all sound good tbh! I lean towards the Vintage Marshall.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌💪

[@UseTheSupeRsonic]

That Marshall Vintage was pretty nice!

[@gilbertostefan]

Cool!!! Vintage Marshall to my ears indeed!❤️😁 Oh, you choose the same, great to me! I am in the right way!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎🤟

[@ryanperkowski4488]

Love the vid! I wanna see you do a comparison of the dv77 vs v30 out of the 800 people are talking up the dv77 like it’s a better v30 would love to see you compare them !

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! If I can get my hands on one someday 🤟.

[@janekbananek8146]

Fryette and V30 sounds like perfect combination

[@johnrice5707]

The Marshall vintage sounds really similar to the Weber silver bell I have. Nice full

[@yannickgauvin7987]

I don't think you've ever made a video with Celestion Redback Euge ? What do you think of this speaker?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Haven’t tried one so no idea 😎.

[@newrockorder]

Helmet uses that Eminence speaker at least live if not for recordings too

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah I think so.

[@WE_OF_THE_NOV]

The best sounding speaker I've ever found inside a combo amp, is the 40W Celestion that came with the craptastic Line 6 amp I bought many years ago, right now, I'm enjoying the 50W speaker(no idea what it is)that's in my VOX 50w combo.

[@HesheR82]

?? I have never used a mic on cab to record before. I live in apartment and can't get to loud. My ? Is how loud does it have to be to actually get good tone for a recording. I assume loud cause your cabs are in a closet lol. Maybe I should convert a closet in same way for cab recording.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Quite loud so that the power tubes are working and pushing lots of current to the speakers so they have something to work and move air 🤟😎.

[@louderthangod]

I’d stick with IR’s…they can sound as great as a well mic’d cab whereas mic’ing a cab is a whole new skill to learn plus the amp needs to be loud and overly small rooms can sound boxy…it’s not worth the effort in your situation plus you get to have tons of speaker and mic options for next to nothing in terms of cost.

[@80s_kid]

It's not fully mix-ready for my taste because of the low end but I like it. The Marshall V30 sounds the best, the Celestion V30 sounds a bit harsh as you said but it sounds good too and even the P50 is not bad.

[@MarcosCerutti]

And what would be a mix ready speaker?

[@80s_kid]

​@@MarcosCerutti I meant for the guitar tracks and Euge also said at 8:03 that he didn't use eq (either) on the individual channels because he wanted we hear the honest sound of the speakers.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Exactly.

[@megatoneamps]

Thanks for posting this. so is the V30 you used in this shootout the new version with the see through dust cap? seems like maybe not since it has the excessive bite to it, the new production version is supposed to sound much more like they did in 2000. your comments?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah it’s the new version with the see through dust cap. The previous version was pretty much unusable 😎.

[@dominikignacik9736]

Great comparison. In the previous video I liked the C V30 with 5150 but in the mix the Marshall wins. But let’s wait till you get the Mesa one ;) And try to get an early 2000s model, at least pre 2005.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@hyperbolekid]

What happened in 2005? You mean finding UK Vintage 30s in the Mesa 4x12s?

[@dominikignacik9736]

@@hyperbolekid all Mesa’s (and Marshalls) have UK speakers. Check out Nolly’s findings about „the best” Mesa V30. He claims the best were around 2000-2003. I have a 2002 and have played a 2001, 2002, 2007 and 2007. I can confirm the earier ones sound better.

[@lolwotify]

great video with great content. Surprisingly, I didn't like the p50e at all in the mix, though they were pretty cool on the leads. The Marshall just made the other speakers sound poor in comparison. However, is there any chance of you putting the p50e into a different, front loaded cab as recommended by Steven Fryette? I doubt that would make a drastic difference though

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Don’t have the Fryette Fat Bottom cab anymore (and nor the speakers) but here’s one I did a while ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5vMknupaL1lg5I

[@TheNocturnalEvil]

I think a lot of it has to do with the tonal familiarity. In the 90s so many albums from the Melodic Death Metal scene were recorded with the 5150 running through a Marshall 1960AV/BV cab loaded with the Marshall G12 Vintage speakers that its tone is very instantly recognizable.

[@JackStolz]

Euge I'd love to hear what you think about the g12h 30w speaker!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Hopefully some day 🤟

[@abcd-fs2de]

Is it possible to buy Marshall Vintage?

[@mouseanalyse]

Confirms my preference for P50E’s. They are very good at short rythmic breaks and have the fullest low end in any of my cabs (Mesa 412 OS, PPC212, OR4x12, FatBottom 412 and 212). I like that you show important things like mic positioning, the amp eq etc. One thing: is that a Greenback wired together with the V30? Couldn’t that 25W affect the tone of the 60W (or how much was it) of the v30? I have currently Greenbacks and P50E wired together and the P50E’s don’t sound so full configured like this.

[@OfficialSNMvids]

To my ears the Marsh V30 is king , but 2nd would be P50 and last Cel V30. Too bad you don't have a Mesa V30 to compare as well ;) Awesome comparison video here!!! \m/

[@guitarexpert2245]

A Mesa I would say would be 2nd to the Marshall. It's a great speaker. it's just a U.K. made Vintage 30. but still sound different than the Marshall.

[@rangle187]

Hey Euge, what year was that Marshall Vintage speaker? Thanks!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I don’t remember 😎. I have two quite new ones and one from the 90s. I think I used the 90s one on this but they all sound pretty much the same with minor differences from each other like with any speakers.

[@rangle187]

@@EugeValovirta230V Nice! I have been looking for a set. Thanks!

[@zAvAvAz]

The Fryette and pitbull P50 E has a nice fat bottom for bombing chug. i am really love that i can feel like i was right there working side with you

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟

[@jaychen2000metal]

Nice vid. V30 vs wgs retro 30!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@jaychen2000metal]

@Euge Valovirta I don't think i ever saw a legit metal Retro 30 video yet

[@EugeValovirta230V]

If I get my hands on one someday I’ll do one 😎.

[@jaychen2000metal]

@Euge Valovirta You got the good riffs and amps to do them justice. They sit in between these 2 from what I can tell. I think you will like them 👍

[@АлександрТолстиков-г5ж]

Very great comparison! I had no idea that vintage's can sound so different. Will here IRs of marshall vintage for poor guys? 😄

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! There might be indeed in the future 😎.

[@АлександрТолстиков-г5ж]

@@EugeValovirta230V great! thx for fast reply)

[@bjrnarestamnes6279]

Great content 🤘 do you record for the album in your own studio? Maybe Jesper wanted this song in the halo effect 😄 I like the Celestion v30 best for this..sounds like older in flames.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Yes. Nope 😎.

[@MikeB-vt4xj]

Hallo Euge, I recently paired 2 P50e with the Marshall G12 Vintage in my 1960 cab. I use this cab with a 2006 VHT Pittbull 50CL and it sounds good to my ears. Have you tried this combination or did you prefer all P50e or all G12 Vintage? Thank you for taking the time to make these awesome videos. Good balance of engineering and practical advice

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Very cool! Thanks! Whatever does the job the best in whatever situation 👌. If/when it sounds good, it’s good.

[@seaandrhythm]

Nice comparison! What year is the Marshall V30 from? And 16ohm or 8ohm? Thx

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Can’t remember but 16 ohm.

[@miloshudec1686]

it must be newer one...on label is international not sufolk england...(;...

[@StevenMikel1]

I prefer the Marshall Vintage but, could hear the bass guitar better with the Celestion V30.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟👌

[@WE_OF_THE_NOV]

In the end, there IS NO BEST! All have a sound that you might want in a particular place or song, and they all give us possibilities we need to make our music unique and special...yes, even the worst speakers can give you that "something special" that makes a song stick to your brain-thing like superglue.

[@acbenitez3614]

thumbs up!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟

[@InTheSh8]

v30 sounds mix-ready. On solo I liked the Fryette best.

[@metalinsights9664]

The Marshall Vintage sounds a bit like the G12T-75 here, in my opinion.

[@guitarexpert2245]

You must be on drugs dude. They sound nothing alike.

[@PvtGrips-vh7ti]

Are you going to stop using impulse responses now Euge? Do you prefer the miked tones in your cabinet booth?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I use both. Whatever does the job the best in any given situation. Lately I’ve been using more real cab etc. ’cos there’s something appealing when using real gear. It’s not necessarily any better but just different. More real I guess 😎.

[@sim715]

👍🤘🎶As always...

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🙏🤟

[@themodernguitarist]

The P50E sounded pretty ugly on it's own to me (the mids sounded too boxy) but blended in with one of the V30s helped a lot.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed.

[@friedrudibega6384]

Speakers matter a lot.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed.

[@r1deftone]

I like them all. My Marshall V30's sound great with my JCM900 SL-X & my JMP 2204 but they are too buzzy with my JCM800 2204. My JCM800 sounds better with V30/G12H-Anniversaries or G12T-75's.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟

[@guitarexpert2245]

I bought an SL-X back in Nov, sounds amazing with my Marshall BV cab and also amazing with Greenbacks. Not so good with G12t-75 though.

[@r1deftone]

@@guitarexpert2245 Too many people bash amps before finding the right speaker. I also have a JCM900 4500 and it sounds great with V30's. YMMV

[@guitarexpert2245]

@@r1deftone what's the biggest difference in tone between the SL-X & 4500?

[@r1deftone]

@@guitarexpert2245 IMHO the SL-X sounds more organic. They are both pretty awesome, but I prefer the SL-X.

[@standingvertical3048]

Just keep playing Hippie!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎🕺🎼

[@brandonjackson5865]

I’m not digging the fryette it’d probably sound good in an oversized recto cab . The Marshall speaker sounded the best the P50 did sound good on the solo section.

[@WE_OF_THE_NOV]

If I had to have one, it would be the Celestion 30W...you forget the job of the guitarist is not to produce the bass end, that's why we have bass players, don't push them out of a job.

[@giorgosk2884]

Original Marshall version is the best nothing like the new chinese made v30 of celestion.

[@kirkmaster1]

Marshall Vintage > V30 > P50E

[@crunch_amp9282]

Celestion village 30 sounds better