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Shinzen responds to a student reporting on her meditation experiences. He shares that decoupling from a focus range, such as seeing out into sight space, for an inexperienced meditator turns into "sinking (nodding out) or thinking". He then says that decoupling while maintaining sensory clarity can induce restful states and help a meditator reconnect quickly back to their object of meditation or sensory space, or they can choose to focus on restful states.
Shinzen then describes a sequence that can happen for an experienced meditator of decoupling, dropping into deep restful states, and consciously dropping out of the time/space continuum, then being "resurrected the same, but changed".
Filmed at a group process in Jan. 2010 at the Mary and Joseph Retreat Center in Rancho Palos Verdes, C.A.