💥Experts EXPOSED Menendez Brothers Dark Secrets!

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[@Oceangirl_505]

1 Million, here we come! Which one of y'all thought that Scott bribed people to watch your 1st Episode? Wait on that answer, I've got to go buy some milk ~

[@hollywiley5668]

You guys should go check out Obama and Biden at Mrs. Kennedy’s funeral. Looks like Obama is really getting on Joe and Joe’s eyes get really big.

[@melanieenmats]

Pleaaaaase sirs. Please to the Brett Baier - Kamala interview. I was on the edge of my seat. There was so much going on. I'm sure an incredible amount of people would want to see that.

[@goody2shoes384]

The brothers wanted the money. They had no reason to kill their mother except to get the money. I do not believe that the Dad would have sent them to a psychologist or psychiatrist counselor to have them work out their problems if he had been abusing them. I think they probably dreamed it up in their head as of their excuse. If the abuse had happened they had reached the age where they could have done something about it and they definitely could have left home.

[@julieo4580]

First trial i ever watched and they should not have spent a day in prison. Show me two sisters that this would have resulted in life without parole.

[@sabrinashelton1997]

Exactly.

[@sweetsuszie]

@@julieo4580 women would have been made to prove sexual abuse with rape kits. A medical exam could have proven this.

[@bb1uk108]

I'm still shocked that the judge didn't allow any of the abuse claims to be part of the re trial. He should be held accountable for that (if he's still alive 🤔)

[@hnr4994]

Maybe because they said themselves it was not about the abuse only about what happened that weekend? To avoid first degree murder. You can't have it both ways...

[@redmoonvenus7327]

@@bb1uk108 I agree, it looks like they didn't get a fair trial the second time.

[@redmoonvenus7327]

@@hnr4994 I believe it's the judge who, before the trial started, decided to dismiss any proof and any witness related to the abuse claims. I also believe that this décision by the judge was due to a political climate that had nothing to do with the case itself. Which leads me to think that this second trial wasn't really fair.

[@My2_cents]

@@bb1uk108 they had to go down because oj the killer was set free...someone had to pay

[@bb1uk108]

@@My2_cents yeah I saw that on the Netflix documentary. It's just wrong on so many levels.

[@fidgetjt1821]

Scott said "what happened to them when they were kids." Point of fact -- the abuse of Erik was still going on. In fact, one of the pressures that was on the boys in that difficult week leading up to the crime was that Erik was about to start school at UCLA and couldn't wait to move away from his dad. That week, Jose told Erik he would have to live at home 4 days (3?) of each week -- meaning the abuse would continue.

[@sweetsuszie]

@@fidgetjt1821 and yet no medical exam was done... Isn't that interesting? Sucker

[@dianemasterson2132]

Chase is so good with his assessment of the "arrested development". The dad would not let them have their own personalities.

[@kathleenclement1406]

Because this is the most uncomfortable subject to Express or hide. Sexual assault from a parent.... One of the worst crimes imaginable...both boys WERE IN GREAT STRESS AND FEAR of their father. And the mother is afraid to help these boys.... So she was just as guilty... Unspeakable guilt for these young boys ...

[@alabamabrown]

👏👏👏

[@NicolaMaxwell]

As a Mother I can't understand it. A lioness will do anything to protect her cubs even if it means her certain death. 🙏🏼❤

[@NurseNerd72]

Thank you for brilliant insights!

[@user-eb9ct6pk4r]

Mark Bowden IS the only one who is honest about the fact that he dont know and dont know enough about it to say what they reason was .

[@shannonoreilly4695]

“Why didn’t they talk about the abuse before?” Because they were ASHAMED. If you listen to the way they were mocked in the media and the fact the prosecution literally tried to portray Erik as gay and that he enjoyed having sex with his father and accused him of having sex with his brother too (all stuff that actually HAPPENED IN COURT), you can completely understand why they didn’t want to talk about it. In a completely confidential prison letter Lyle wrote to his brother, he said revealing the “secrets” of their family would be like killing their parents all over again. If you actually listen to the so called confession tape, there are so many moments where the brothers allude to something terrible happening in their family, but it’s clear their hesitant to divulge the information to the therapist, whom Lyle clearly didn’t trust (for good reason as he was a complete scumbag). The judge and prosecutor said in open court that men cannot be raped. This was 1989. Nobody talked about issues like this. There is so much evidence that corroborates what the brothers testified, but of course it’s easier to just run your mouth based on what the media said rather than doing even a single shred of research. Trauma and abuse can make someone do heinous things. Attitudes like this is why victims still find it hard to come forward. The fear, the shame, the idea that they won’t be believed. You probably don’t care about anything I just wrote, but I’m hoping some people can have some critical thinking and maybe not speak on issues they know nothing about.

[@JusticefortheMemendezbrothers]

👍🏻 Exactly! So well said. I remember all this back when it originally occurred. I believed them then, I believe them now. Just as their story has never changed, my faith in them has never wavered. The continued lack of empathy, compassion and basic humanity is nauseating. It’s just proof that in many ways little progress has been made in more than 30 years.

[@shannonoreilly4695]

@@JusticefortheMemendezbrothers It really is so disheartening to see people who clearly know nothing about the case go out of their way to disparage the brothers. I don’t expect everyone to know all the details about the case - it was a long time ago and a very, very complex case - but I’m just so sick of people playing judge, jury and executioner when they clearly don’t know the facts. Listen to the “confession tape”, listen to the testimony of Erik and Lyle (whose stories are consistent with each other and which have never changed), listen to the family members and friends who testified on their behalf (and not the scumbags like Oziel and Craig who clearly wanted attention), even Lyle’s friend Donovan Goodreau who testified for the prosecution couldn’t help but say nice things about Lyle (and who likely didn’t want to reveal his own abuse story in court to corroborate Lyle’s account of his revealing it to him), as well as the fact that, despite believing they’d never get out, they’ve been model prisoners without any incidences of violence and have been involved in programs for abuse victims and prison reform in the nearly 30 years they’ve been in federal prison. The money motive makes absolutely zero sense to anyone with a more than surface level knowledge of the case.

[@kikikeel7695]

There was scientific evidence which was presented at the court. Erik had throat injury similar to someone who had suffered oral copulation.

[@italianmama373]

Amen, well said!

[@kristinbrown5683]

I always believed them too. I remember being kinda shocked at the outcome of the trial. But, having said that, you still can’t take the law into your own hands. Personally I’m okay with it (😬), but our laws say you can’t. Should it have been a lesser sentence? No jail at all? If no jail, then what would the defense be. I’m asking seriously, I’m on their side.

[@JohannaVanWinkle]

I remember that trial... It was shocking to hear of the abuse at that time. I don't think that type of abuse from a father to their sons was heard of before on a public platform..... The whole thing was such a tragedy. I believe they have served enough time and should be released at this point.

[@AnnQuebecPolska]

I totally agree !

[@avant8039]

IMPERFECT SELFDEFENSE Erik discovered he wouldn't leave to college and escape from his father, he went to his brother and Lyle confronted his father about the abuses on Erik. Their mother said to him that day, do you think i don't know what is happening? That was it, the complete scenario that lead to the crime. I really believe they were threatened, they feared for their lives, and they believed that was their only escape. Remember Jose menendez rapped their children and made them repeat to themselves, "what will i do if you tell someone about this?" "you will kill me"

[@taniamartin6978]

It's uncomfortable judging 2 people for murdering their abusers whilst hearing about their spending spree. Something is off.

[@elizabethmelnychuk6034]

You got that right!

[@Leanah30]

So you care more about the "spending spree" (which wasn't even a spending spree to them cuz they were already rich) than their parents abusing children??

[@alabamabrown]

Their parents abused them. They have severe complex post traumatic disorder. I hope they can be found not guilty. Their motive was to stay alive and thrive. They were not thriving. They were looking for a way out, and sadly they will not be the last.Treat your children well.

[@pamelacovington4343]

It’s not revenge when you’re the victim of child sexual abuse. It really does a number on your mind. It truly is survival. Like Lizzie Borden, sure there was rage at the parents. And justifiably so, but when you’re in a mindset that there is no other way out of the nightmare and you’re conditioned to believe there is not, as I believe these two were, you reach a breaking point, as I believe these two did. Sure they planned it, but they were never in the right mindset to realize there was another way out. In their minds, I believe, they believed they were trapped with no other way out of the nightmare. So their ultimate mindset was full of rage at both parent, but they just couldn’t think of another way out, and once they started, the rage manifested thus the multiple shots fired. No one can judge these brothers until you’ve walked a day in their shoes…during their childhoods and during the nightmarish moments they endured.

[@hannahchapman4662]

They legit thought they were inevitably going to be killed no matter what they did....and continue to be abused in the meantime. Up against intimidation, wealth, political and entertainment ties, etc.

[@KaeBae_]

I agree. Both things can be true. They could have been horribly abused AND also overkilled their parents in the most heinous ways imaginable. The motive could be two-fold, but I highly doubt they were in fear of their lives when they killed their parents. Sad situation all around.

[@Harmonyempress]

My own opinion, not that it matters, and I’m not an expert, but when you’ve been torturously abused like that, it doesn’t matter if it was premeditated or not, these kids felt like their back were against the corner and they wanted the abuse to stop. This didn’t just happened when they were little this continued the whole time at least one from age 6 to 18. I don’t believe murder is condoned, but in certain circumstances, your mental health is so bad because of the torturous abuse you endure I do see this happening. 35 years. I believe they deserve to be freed.

[@Jet-h7q]

Arguably it’s self defence even if they were not being abused in that exact moment.

[@Seashay4eva]

At the time of the murders, Erik (the younger one?) had been accepted into college and the father told him he had to live at home and not on campus. He could not continue living with a monster and to defy a sadistic abuser, such as José was, could certainly provoke threats.

[@Seashay4eva]

@@EM-mw2qr Perhaps, maybe he wanted an apartment. But Jose would not permit Erik to leave.

[@gloomgirl]

@@Harmonyempress exactly-it’s the same as ‘battered women syndrome’ (can be men and kids, too) you don’t have to be abused at that moment but it’s fear that’s built up over time. Just horrible

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

@@Seashay4eva

[@grainneowens3035]

Set them free ❤

[@NicolaMaxwell]

Chase, I'm saving for your course. I promise I'll get there! Investing in my future self and already cured my fibromyalgia through the therapy you used, my husband and I started your daily routine. I got so depressed this year after an injury - I wasn't in nature, it broke my heart! Thank you, from the bottom of my heart again! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 You are healed. 💎💙

[@JohannaVanWinkle]

Yes, Chase, my daughter-in-law (nurse practitioner) is researching the protocols you have been using for my son (who has TBI from special ops/military). I am so happy you have found something that is healing and working for you. And this information is going to help others. Bless you for sharing!

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@JohannaVanWinkle His wife is a real hero in this story. That would usually break a couple but not them. Makes my heart burst with happiness! The things Chase did to begin healing cured me of the worst case of fibromyalgia the specialist had ever seen. They were so sure it was MS. Good luck to you and your family! ❤❤ "we rise by lifting others" as Chase says. 💙

[@looloolawrence4009]

Coming here straight from the documentary (not the series) on Netflix. I feel the fact the brother (Eric?) was told by his father that he couldn't go away to uni but would go to a local place and continue to live at home was the last straw for him and his brother. I feel Lyle felt protective and sickened his brother was still being abused, and as much as they said they loved their mother, I think they also loathed her for not being there for them and protecting them as mothers should; for her knowing what was going on and letting it continue to go on. I used to think it was about the money; I was unaware of the abuse stuff until recently. My mind has been changed and I feel they should be let free. The abuse was real in my opinion, they had reached their breaking point and couldn't take it anymore.

[@themurrrr]

Eric was still being abused This wasn’t just all happening when they were small kids Just fyi

[@sweetsuszie]

@@themurrrr then a medical exam should have been done.

[@swsblyth9969]

Breaks my heart

[@kateg7298]

When the murders happened they were both adults. What would have stopped them from leaving? That's always been the biggest red flag for me.

[@dengarr33]

you can say that about every abused adult though.

[@denisecahoon9753]

I totally agree

[@Knightrider80sKITT-v4g]

Not if their young you csnt, but these idiots were old enough, it was for the 14mil end of

[@be-happy]

Trauma based relationships bond you to your abusers in unexplainable ways. Don’t ask me how I know. It’s a relationship hell that few know about, much less understand.

[@ToyotaGuy1971]

@@dengarr33 you can ask that question about every case, but what's the answer? it's different for every case.

[@staceycasta]

I think it was both fear and anger. Unless you've ever been abused as a child by your parents, you will never understand the control they have over you, even in adult hood. I wasnt nearly as abused as they were but it took me till I was close to 50 to establish boundaries and be brave with my parents. I feel so sorry for them and hope they get released

[@jts3505]

I feel bad that they were abnsed, but they knew what they were planning and doing was absoutely wrong, so I don't feel bad for them and don't think they are safe people to be wandering around in the world.

[@cassandrachestnut4839]

so sorry for you but glad you broke free.

[@6431mastermind]

Extreme abuse creates extreme fear. Their parents weren't content to have destroyed their childhoods - these parents wanted to destroy any chance they had for a life free from the abuse and shame these parents used to control them. They seen no way out - that is why they killed them.

[@chrysamere7277]

Nice job guys! Love your work! Now I find myself looking for all this body language when I go to family dinners or people watch. Lol

[@x3csP]

there were PICTURES!!! who the hell has pictures of their children, naked? and without their heads in the picture like they were objects...

[@GraceKelly-ni5jp]

Outside of when are babies in the bathtub. I don't have any but baby's first bath

[@melindoranightsilver9298]

There was an image Kitty had of Erik's genitals and it said "Erik's 6th Birthday" wtf

[@emiliavicquery1342]

​@@GraceKelly-ni5jpI have pics of my kids, like one had a scratch on her rear and wanted to see so she asked me to take a picture to show her but those i delete after and I mean they had those photos developed and with no faces, that's just sick. Those photos were not innocent by any means 😢

[@merica4realz630]

Love this quick short form. Love you guys.

[@mandymaree9430]

I think finding out their mother knew all along what was going on was the final straw honestly. Cant believe they are still in jail and Casey Anthony is free to do whatever.

[@gloomgirl]

Agree-I think they were absolutely abused and the trauma over the years pushed them to do what they did…they served their time imo-let them out !

[@clinicalpsychology326]

I believe that these brothers never would have been convicted in the Netherlands (at the very least not for this long a sentence), because we have something called "Noodweerexces"... (not sure if there is something similar in the US?)... It's loosely translated as "Excessive self-defense", in cases where there is self-defense, but the way someone defends themselves goes way beyond what is required to get to immediate safety in the situation, and usually there are circumstances why this excessive response exists, such as the years of abuse they were put through. The punishment they have received is completely unjust in my opinion.

[@malaykatoure8706]

This is the equivalent of first degree murder , which they should’ve been sentenced to

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

@@malaykatoure8706 They were sentenced to First Degree Murder.

[@malaykatoure8706]

@@ReturnOfTheJ.D. they should not have been

[@loisdiamond5674]

This was one of my most impactful episodes because it’s a beautiful thing for these men to be believed. The justice system failed them. I’m hopeful to see them released! 🙏

[@DebbieBlackburn-xr5xc]

If you have ever been controlled or abused, you know that you live in an isolated world of fear. Of course they were scared, and acting out of fear.

[@DebbieBlackburn-xr5xc]

It kinda hurt actually when Greg said he did not believe them that they were scared.

[@atlas543]

Thanks for offering training to help people who want to build skills in this area of study. This is a good example of why these skills are important and can do a lot of good. 🙏🏻

[@wendybrenner2614]

Hi guys! It's been a while but I'm so glad to be back!

[@NicolaMaxwell]

"Not saying we told you so but we told you so" - The behaviour panel, probably. 😂❤❤❤❤

[@openorwap5412]

Many people ask why they didn't just leave, or report the abuse, but how do they expect two young adults to think rationally and reasonably, when they've had to accept unreasonable behaviour their whole lives? I doubt we'll ever know the truth about what happened that night, but something happened in the days leading up to it that pushed them to buy the guns and eliminate their parents. I think their motives were punishment and desperation - rightly or wrongly.

[@lhr8833]

And their dad was powerful. They didn’t have a safe space even in the psychologist office, the psychologist was sharing everything with the dad. The dad controlled everything and wouldn’t have allow them to just leave.

[@dianemasterson2132]

Yeah, we were talking about that today (i.e., the deliberate action of this in a house) ruins property values. The act was completely menacing.

[@lhr8833]

@@dianemasterson2132 Even when I believe them that they thought they were cut from the will, and buying businesses in the “shopping spree” kind of proves that. For what I remember I don’t think that house was in the state. I think their house was remodeling, something like that, and that property was a lease. Is an old memory, but I’m almost sure was like that.

[@thehapagirl92]

They couldn’t leave. Jose forced Eric to stay at home and go nearby to UCLA. Eric didn’t want to stay here in SoCal. He wanted to go to the East Coast like Lyle

[@philosopherwithin]

Period.

[@the-finn]

I always thought if they were Erica and Lynn instead of Eric and Lyle, they'd be free today. Personally, I hope they get released soon. JMO

[@CynHann]

I would love it, if you did another analysis part 2 ❤

[@chiedu90069]

It's depressing how many people are ignorant about sexual abuse. Thankfully, it's still looking like the brothers may be released soon since the evidence of abuse is compelling. Even if they killed out of anger, with the evidence of abuse, they should have been convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 7-10 years.

[@saragates2255]

Couldn't agree more.

[@kerry8863]

Agreed.

[@Hope-bi9kh]

Same here, but I think they should have gotten a pass.

[@helianabanes4875]

Always believed about the abuse. Also thought they premeditated. People that have suffered abuse over a long time, definitely fear for their life, and the lives of their loved ones. I think the overall motive was to ensure their safety, but I also do not believe they thought the danger was imminent.

[@foundersmusicmedia5772]

Thank you for this spectacular analysis. Y’all are gems.

[@LehMarx]

I may be naive but I dont think they planned, if they did, it was a terrible plan, just based on what happened and the crime scene. The bullets used, the missing alibi, the planned to meet with friends they never met, leaving the shells inside the car. That doesn't sound like a plan to me.

[@MoniaZumbaSamba]

Best comment👏👏👏

[@dianemasterson2132]

It was planned. They purchased shotguns, attempted to get a pistol. It was very cold blooded.

[@Lauren_Fields]

There was a plan just poorly executed

[@TheMockatiel]

They got big enough to take vengeance and the realization their Mother would always take their father’s side was the catalyst. We can sit and judge from the outside all we want. You never know who you’ll become until you’re in it. Because you become a different you in that moment , that much is clear.

[@stopfolith9389]

If they were Hopkins-level actors, and all of this was premeditated - why then didn't they use their acting skills for "proper" mourning in the first place?

[@sjaadbj5564]

the mom have a gun that she bought months or years before the murder and has said directly to the brothers that she's going to use it on someone while being heavily depressed and prone to outburst...even without the abuse, i would be afraid of her too. and paired it with the father, it is a frightening combo

[@kaymarham5486]

This analysis was as straight and clean as ever, but extra beautifully presented for some reason. X🌷🌿

[@suzette42]

Scott, I agree, I think all of the abuse and trauma did happen, and then there was finally a time where the brothers took revenge or retribution. Perhaps greed was a motivating factor at the end, but I believe the abuse was the initial trigger that set all of this into motion. A very sad situation all around 😔

[@nikkib5079]

I’d love for you to do more on this case!!

[@EdelweissM_TheJourney]

Thanks as always,guys!

[@redmoonvenus7327]

1:52 "if this guy was acting, he is as good as Anthony Hopkins" Yes, and I would even say that if he was acting/lying, then he is a BETTER actor than Anthony Hopkins. Because actors practice and rehearse, and once on the movie set they get several takes before pulling it of convincingly - sometimes dozens of takes. Here the guy had to be convincing right there and then on the first take, and in each and every situation that the subject was discussed.... It would be very difficult to be convincing if it wasn't true. I'll add that they were probably genuingly scared of their parents, even if not "immediatly in fear for their life", which is why they tried the self défense strategy. It was like "stretching some truth" to try and fit a case of self defense. If this crime were to happen now, the "battered child" defense would probably be used ; but I don't think it was a thing in the 90s.... Hence the need to come up with another defense strategy with whatever they had at hand. So my take is that the defense thing was not entirely truthful, but maybe based on bits of truths here and there, stitched together into a lie.

[@Gypsyg17]

They were abused for years and killed their parents out of desperation since father was a powerful rich man that threatened to kill them. Their father told them that they will never be independent. The mother was an accomplice.

[@shonta]

Watch Erik explain what happened and why with his interview with Chris Cuomo from 2017. They did have fear. Eric wanted to take Lyle with him out of there as he was going to college. The dad said no, he's staying here. I'm not done with him. Erik said something like he's going with me, what are you going to do and dad said you'll find out.. watch it then decide for yourselves. Sure they were mad, they were abused from 6 for Erik and 8 for Lyle, but it was more to it, much more....

[@veebee3837]

Yeah, exactly. I think these guys here and most ppl think that they're lying about being fearful because they are thinking through their own POV. But when you think it through from the brother's POV, it's not hard to feel why they were fearful and felt that they had no other options. They were abused their whole life, nobody could stand up to him, police could be bribed, they had nowhere to go, and nobody to turn to. When Lyle confronted his dad and his dad warned him, that's when they knew it was over, they had to defend themselves.

[@dianemasterson2132]

I think they were fearful for two reasons. One, was the controlling father. And two, was their nutrition and the Amygdala where the fear center is, a lack of B1 vitamin deficiency and would like to see your panel cover that. Training in tennis and eating carbs for energy. Sorry about your dog, Scott.

[@miranx5735]

How much is instinct and experience when it comes to reading ppl for y’all? I drove a taxi for five years. I learned to read ppl fast and to trust my instincts. My instincts were rarely wrong.

[@CorinneTokar]

Scott, the abuse wasn’t over. He was still doing horrific things to them. After years and years of that level of abuse, I find it inconceivable that you could just tuck that all away somewhere and live anything like a “normal “ life. It was in the forefront of their minds every minute. I think they are innocent because at any minute it could happen again and to end it he had to die. And she was complicit because she knew and did nothing to stop it. I vote to let them out.

[@ammanwill]

I think there was motive of not being able to escape. Erik Menendez said in the documentary that another factor was his father telling him he could not go to college out of town - which he said was his plan to get away from father's abuse - and that he would live at home while attending UCLA.

[@openorwap5412]

I agree. I think they felt trapped.

[@MarionCochrane-s7m]

What i found disturbing was the Mother Knew

[@Caroline26B]

That mom was attached to her luxurious lifestyle and she put up with her husband cheating on her and worse, her husband abusing her sons because of it. She was as evil as their father was.

[@Theresa-dg1rk]

Well she was also a predator so she had something to gain from keeping it a secret

[@alegnalavieenrose8120]

Sadly, not all moms are maternal.

[@cdes1776]

Just like the Soto case.

[@trailrider7046]

If they get out and go live with their wives, they will find out their wives are batty. Normal people don't write to inmates convicted of murder and fall in love with them. Women like that have serious self esteem issues.

[@betsytucker4788]

Yet If they get out, it would be decided that they were not just heartless murderers, but experienced horrendous abuse growing up.

[@Rossiegirl]

Maybe they believed the truth that they were victims as well as murderers.

[@betsytucker4788]

@@Rossiegirl , yes I do think after 28 years of incarceration, that one would discover a truth about themselves besides all the opposition telling them otherwise..

[@mayamcknight3874]

I would love to see you guys do an updated one on other Menendez Brother's videos. Especially with what has come out recently with the band member also saying Jose Menendez abused him. Also, note that Erik was still being sexually abused by his father at 18. I think they were fearful but there was premeditation.

[@heatherrhodes5738]

❤️‍🔥 Thank you gentlemen ❤️‍🔥

[@nenabunena]

What happened when they were young? It was still happ3ning to erik, jose just said it would happen that night

[@TheCeri2011]

Brilliant job, Fellas!

[@gloriannehamelin7984]

motive: MAKE IT STOP

[@-Brit-Brat-]

PLEASE do another one for the Menendez brothers! And maybe add in Jose’s other victims like the Menudo boys (puerto rican band) talking about it..

[@reneaguilar3471]

They went out for revenge or as we call it in the real world justice

[@Perthgurl_6024]

In not a psychologist so I know I'm not going to identify some really important unmistakable points, but, what I can clearly see is that there IS major psychological effects of abuse in their childhood and how the complex emotions- fear, resentment, powerlessness toward their abusive parents could certainly have influenced the brothers' decision to commit parricide... Erik and Lyle seemed to have perceived their actions as a form of self-preservation - a psychological relief, driven by their traumatic upbringing. as the only option to escape ongoing trauma. Psychological entrapment and survival responses? How can we even begin to understand what that means? So, what I also strongly believe is that the implications for understanding trauma in legal contexts, particularly in cases of familial violence, is what put the Menedez brothers behind bars, and THAT makes it hard for me to think their imprisonment was fair.

[@mendesjosr4438]

Spot on. Even the "greed" motive needs to be contextualised. In a family where money, success, parental approval and love is all one thing you do not generate a healthy relationship with it. To go spending it after the murder also becomes easier to understand.

[@Perthgurl_6024]

Absolutely!!! I couldn't agree more @mendesjosr4438 The ‘greed’ motive does need to be examined within the context of their family dynamics. In an environment where success, money, and even love are tightly interwoven with control and approval, it's understandable how Erik and Lyle might not have developed a healthy relationship with these concepts. Spending the money after the tragedy could be seen more as a grasp to break free from a lifetime of imposed values and expectations. Thanks for responding!!! 👋

[@PQ_Mont2021]

Well said !

[@staceymichaels9530]

Agree, thank You

thanks guys, i love when actually you show some that are telling the truth, and for the abuses, when i saw them telling it, they seemed really truthful and their body are showing that it's real,,, unfortunately at the time two boy plus from such a rich family it was "impossible that "a good family like that" don't do those things,,, well of course they do, but mentality at the time,,,,,,

[@carolanderson2773]

I am one of those people that was so naive that I could not believe there were monsters like their dad. I am surprised they didn't put him down sooner. And their mom knew and did nothing, her too. The dad was an executive at RCA records?

[@NicolaMaxwell]

Some people are too stubborn to think about rethinking their opinion, huge respect to you.❤ As a Mother, I don't understand, I can't 😢

[@retroqueenbeeart]

Love your background chase❤

[@wendybrenner2614]

Marc love the accent.

[@tessababyeah]

I'd like to see you guys do more clips of them

[@ozzieluvaya2202]

I truly believe the brothers snapped

[@Ilovecerealcerealcereal]

My instinct told me the exact same! We all pick up on more cues for lies than we realize.

[@mandymaree9430]

People sure have a lot to say on lives and situations they never lived. These boys testimonies broke my heart. Quite clear to me they had severe trauma. Hope they see some freedom for the first time in their entire lives real soon.

[@Toi74]

I always believed them & felt at the time OJ was too much for the public & by 2nd trial they were unfortunately going to be sent for life to get the same treatment now by random inmates & separating them was the icing on top. Sad bc this DOES 💯 happen to boys unfortunately. Glad times are catching up even though…

[@mariarubio1850]

Spot on!!!

[@RebeccaIlovenemmonnbll-mx9qi]

Would they still be in jail if they were ERIKA -and LILA? Maybe resentencing is appropriate

[@mysurfing3550]

Yes. Given the same circumstances for sure because of the spending after.

[@KarenT-kh6sy]

I believe they were sexually abused. I don't know regarding the killing of their parents.I will say that little boys being sexually abused by your dad over a period of years and mom knowing and not stopping it or doing anything about it, definitely isn't going to make you feel all warm and cozy about them. I can see where a lot of resentment would build up.

[@nedailic2139]

They were paranoid, understandably and did it in affect .. of course there was no imediate treath, but they were living in fear for 20 years !!!!! 😢

[@Simo76195]

Everyone has a breaking point

[@Sbw1976]

If Lyle and Eric grew up in a trailer park would this be talked about ANYWHERE? NO. It wouldn’t!!!

[@rowanmayfair9249]

I just had a massive flashback. I'm Bob, and this is my other brother Bob... Newheart? I think.

[@AliceNsWonderland]

Why are you trying to make drama out of absolutely, literally, nothing! We've talked about Summer Wells. Her family is FAR from wealthy. And here you are, over here outraged over someone who doesn't even exist... ¿Lyle Menendez? We're not your audience... His name is Eric, btw...

[@Sbw1976]

@@AliceNsWonderland Wow!! There is absolutely NO correlation between Summer Wells and the Menedez case- and if you don’t realize that then I don’t really want to explain it to you but I will if you are that confused!!😉

[@Sbw1976]

@@rowanmayfair9249 Your comment is obtuse 🙂

[@rowanmayfair9249]

@@Sbw1976 How is it obtuse? Enlighten me.

[@onlyme7308]

I was more alarmed by the fact she asked whether the prosecution would like her to demonstrate.

[@mikemanjo2458]

I gotta agree with Scott on this one.

[@michaelparbatule]

Ty for doing this but I will wait

[@ellemarvin637]

Nice job guys

[@pennythpmas5787]

I think they should get out, but not any form of self defense. When a parent warps the morals, boundaries, roles and twists son's mind that way, not shocking revenge is desired. It's human nature. Don't believe they are a danger to society, but I don't know them, just public persona.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

Panelists, Scott has been working on some awesome stuff that's so interesting and Chase too! Highly recommend checking it out and the guys books!❤💙❤💙

[@katrinpaulsen7261]

They had enough and snapped

[@HouseOfVirgo]

Their father threatened death. They killed out of fear.

[@julies4868]

Agreed

[@presentonoccassion]

PLEASE evaluate KAMALA'S interview with Brett Baer!

[@LilynMadsMom]

They traveled from Calabasas or Beverly Hills to San Diego to buy the shotguns. That’s an hour drive each direction if there’s little traffic. That’s a lot of pre meditation.

[@691lou]

After YEARS of rape by "Dad" with YEARS of "Mom's" tacit consent. They're served 35 years.

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

Don’t waste your breath, people on KZbin these days are utterly deluded about this case. It’s sad.

[@missydonald6381]

@@cyberpunkcentral8500The only person deluded here is you.. people are finally waking up to the truth. Painting child molestors as victims makes you sick that’s sad

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

@missydonald6381 OMG keep in deluding yourself: you'll never want for fellow company online. There's a heart contingent of flat-earthers and moon landing deniers just waiting for you to join them, since your so easily swayed by Internet videos

[@emmyrose1802]

Interesting analysis

[@Milestonemonger]

It probably took them a long time to get the courage to do something.

[@suewinters1398]

The sentence these young men received was a horrible miscarriage of justice. The brutal physical and mental abuse at the hands of their father is unimaginable. There was so much evidence exposed at the time of the trial, the judge refused to allow much of it. Their grandmother came foward to saythat her son was a monster; prostitutes came foward to say that he was a monster; the psychologist (who I believe lost his license) reported back to their father everything that was told to him, tennis instructors were fired for standing up to the father and confronting him about his abuse. From a young age they were told that if they ever told anyone their father would kill them. When Erik told Lyle what his father was still abusing him, Lyle confronted his father - and they had no reason to think he wouldn't kill them. They were told that they were going on a boat ride, they discovered that the mother knew what was happening all that time - they thought they would be killed on the water. I absolutely believe they were in a state of panic and believed they had to save their own lives. It was horrendous to hear and see the things they went through.

[@sweetsuszie]

No it wasnt. The fact is they ended two lives in a very brutal fashion. It wasnt in self defense there was no gun fight or knife fight. These were 2 grown men. Lyle didnt even live at home anymore. A medical exam wouldve proved this but that wasnt done. If this had been a female she wouldve been subjected to a rape kit why werent they? They claimed this was happening uo until they blew their parents away... prove it.

[@winkieblink7625]

Chase has it down perfect.

[@shannonsullivan4858]

I really enjoy this type of opinion video from you guys. I hope to see a lot more like it.

[@ClaireLinks]

Sending love and respect from South Africa ❤. I have been following you for a few years and I enjoy this channel very much! You guys introduced me to the Menendez brothers case and subsequently watched the Netflix series. As a result of your coverage I decided to watch the court TV trial to learn more about this story. Oh my word!, the horror of it all😢. I believe their testimony, including those of family and people who were close to them. The brutality of their upbringing...gosh, unbelievable. My personal opinion is that imperfect self defense is and was a fair and reasonable argument to put forth. They should have been found guilty of manslaughter. From the clips you have shared for this analysis, I believe that the brothers may have realized, shortly after the killing, that they have overreacted. However, I believe that on the day of the tragedy, and 3 or 5 days leading up to the killings, they feared for their lives. Perhaps, what you have observed from the brothers on stand is indeed remorse. You may have observed two boys testifying about the horrors they've experienced at the hands of the two people who they loved the most. Days prior to the murders they were convinced of the imminent danger basis of how they were indoctrinated by their Dad since they were children and the realization that there Mom will side with their Dad, no matter what. I believe that, from this clip, you merely observed two boys on the stand who genuinly feared for their lives at the time of the murders, but realized afterwards that they may have overreacted. The fear resulted from years of threats by both parents. The weapons were purchased to protect themselves. I don't believe that it's premeditated. It was for protection.

[@AmericanMoodSwings]

Super interesting!

[@excitingtimes-hh2bu]

Could you guys please do a video on Jaguar Wright?!!!!!!

[@msrainbowbrite]

The behavioural Arts Channel has done a body language read on Jaguar

[@FamiliesOfWolves]

It strikes me as making it up as she goes but she has a ton of support so I dunno.

[@pamelafayebradshaw]

I ❤ Y’ALL!!!

[@brendacottrell9787]

I truly believe they were. sexual abused very very badly by their father And I believe their father threatening them, because their father was rich and well known,And also thats what Abusers do. And their mother knew and their father probably abused her and threatened her also and she was probably scared of him.But she should of turned her husband in when she found out.And I believe they just snapped ,and also couldn't take the pressure and abuse any longer.If you haven't walked in their shoes,then you don't know what it's like.They have been more free in prison,than they ever was at home.