Fat Goths - Can fat people be goth?

[@whiskeydaniels6272]

This reminds me of the time my best friend took me shopping for my 18th birthday and we went into this shop and I saw this amazing gothic dress and as I was looking at it my best friend told me to try it on and I completely dismissed that with the words "they probably don't have it in my size, besides even if they did, it wouldn't look right on me because it's designed of skinny people" little did I know that the owner of the store who was a very well known elder goth in the area was listening in on our conversation and at this point decided to interrupt, she found my size, made me try on the dress before telling me "if you feel good in an outfit then you will look good in the outfit, size is irrelevant to the way you choose to express yourself." And then I went to pay for the dress but she wouldn't take my money and insisted that I take the dress as a reminder of her lesson and now I wear it all the time and I love it, the annoying thing is that I had all but dismissed the dress because of my weight but every time I wear it someone says I look pretty.

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

that is such a beautiful story! She is totally right about what she told you ;) Thank you for sharing the story! -Zeroy

[@whoareyoutoaccuseme]

But since most Gothic clothing companies (at least 90%) don't do plus size, I am assuming that you weren't actually fat. The largest sizs most of the companies nake is a US 12, UK 16. The handful of companies doing plus size make more gothabilly style. You cannot find Victorian style Gothic clothing in Plus sizes. You're very lucky you can fit into straight sizes, as I cannot wear the clothes I used to since gaining 8 stone. I am forced to wear Hell Bunny and the like, despite being into Romantic-Victorian Gothic myself. Those clothes don't suit me at all and are much too young for me as well. They seem very psychobilly or 1940s and 50s look. I hate those styles and eras. I like Victorian, 1930s and 1970's styles which are nonexistent in my size. However if anyone knows of a conpany sell8ng gorgeous plus sizes (I wish Dark in Love & Punk Rave would!), please let me know. Glad the elder goth gave you tour confidence though. After becoming fat (by way of permanent disability), I tried wesring "normal" clothes...for 10 years I wore jeans, t shirts, and scarves. Or floral dresses with leggings (ny legs are scarred, swollen and deformed so i always covered them). Ugh. It wasn' t me and I felt so uncomfortable when I went out. Finally 2 yrs agi I decided to be myself. I was already stared, made fun of, and harassed for being a wheelchai user (thats common in UK/ Europe), and so obviously now I get that even worse just for wearing black and dark lipstick. But at least I feel more comfortable and I'm not hiding the real me any longer.

[@jayfleing4239]

@@ZeroyCruciatum hi my friend my name is jay Fleming and I want to be gothic

[@ciararespect4296]

@@whoareyoutoaccuseme just get someone to make them

[@eliciamartinez16]

I really love this video you made, goth is defiantly not about body shape. If your fat, skinny, fit , pear shaped, or curvy you can and always still be a goth. I know a few gothic models who are in fact in the plus sized category and they look just as elegant or even beautiful as the ones who wear a size 6. I really hate all of the fat shaming some people of the goth subculture have it's not right at all. I have a few goth friends who are a bit bigger than my size 6 butt and they rock it yet others try to make fun of them but say I look amazing? I wish some day people will stop with the fat shaming already it's getting very old. :(

[@MariaGottstuck]

Wow. I found your channel recently. Watched your few videos, and I can say I really love those. 'Cause you say really 'deep' things and you're a goth in your inside, not just on your appearance. Thank you very much for your videos and words you say.

[@emeraldstruchen6748]

As a 33 year old fat goth it is wonderful to hear a young man who is of our subculture say these things. I myself have been shamed by others, though I still live my life how I please, it really is a difficult thing to just be happy with qho you are ans not let others dictate your own uniqueness. Thank you for posting this.

[@ranauxi]

Great video, I enjoy how you present your topic. I have a friend who is uncomfortable due to their weight, I'll pass this along, thanks.

Thanks for this video! I've been battling my weight for a while (since a near-death experience with an allergic reaction to a medication knocked my metabolism out of whack about twenty years ago), and I just deal with it. I eat modestly and exercise when I can, and what happens, happens.

[@bettythepumpkin]

I'm trying to find clothes to fit my size. I can't find anything. It's really depressing me.

[@bettythepumpkin]

Goth alt and punk all for skinny people. Especially the shoes....all designs for skinny ankles. I just want some killer boots to feel good as a goth.

[@TheNorwegianLady]

Why haven't I discovered your channel before?? Great video and thumbs up for The Sisters of Mercy!

[@rickonnye2001]

Great video I am struggling with my weight, thanks 😀

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

You are such a beautiful soul and person. You give the people hope and you are so full of lyrics and you are fascinating me. I wish all the best to you.

[@InannaLosna]

That video just made me subscribe to your channel! Thumbs up for you, handsome!

[@Megtran-lb2ji]

Me too!

[@Fire-Wolf-The-Wolgan]

I've seen a few fat goth girls in adult cartoons like American Dad, South Park and Daria. I've even seen one from the Superman animated episode, Hand Of Fate.

[@gothicgamerandthegothiclif53]

Great msg man to all the world and goths out there .

[@BlackCatsAndSakura]

My hand shake all the time too. Mine’s genetic from my dad’s side. It confused a nerve doctor I saw. He had never hear of it. All I know is it gets worse with age. One of my Grandpa ‘s doctors thought it was Parkinson but we aren’t sure.

[@nightmareofanangel]

I love your accent and the message you send :)

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Thank you!

[@ellieb8916]

I love your hair!!! Its awesome!Also , the topic oft your Video is very interesting!

[@ashleysjogren7524]

your accent is adorable and so is your smile. And I completely agree with this.

[@Sara.Sirena]

I really liked your last sentence

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

@Zeroy: I like you a lot. I can't stop watching your videos. I am looking forward to seeing also new videos of you. Greetings and have a nice evening Patricia

[@zombiebatpanda665]

Thank you so much for this . I constantly have doubts about myself because of my body. When I was young my father used to call me horrible names and ridicule me because of my weight so I've struggled to have a positive image of myself but I'm starting to try and fight it and your video helped alot . And being quite a large goth it's hard for me to find things I like in my size so it's kind of discouraging but lately I've been viewing tutorials on diy ideas for inspiration and videos like this really give me the courage to be myself despite my body and dress in a way that reflects myself . Thank you so much .

[@mrsc6917]

Such kindness in your words!!! 🌙⭐️💜

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

I love you Zeroy. You are great.

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Patricia Ulbrich thank you, darling💓

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

😘😘😘

[@sherry-ml7zw]

dont u just love it when your comp decides ta crassh for no reason due to a software glitch s , goth ! gods why ...any way i rembered waatchin sum of your vids so i`m back ....lost my parents feb has a whole new meaning to suck ....lol

[@phylliciamrabine]

nicely said. thank for ur kind words and wisdom.

[@larsdenhertog]

Quite an amusing video, you said some wise stuff in my opinion and I agree mostly to you. I am waiting for your next video already ; D Thought you were acting a bit though.

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

simply showing another side. Thank you!

[@Aranuduin]

great video and get well soon

[@ladysaranoir]

You're amazing - stumbling across this video made my day

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

good news ;) ! Thnx!

[@_Bill_.]

Hey, thank you very much. I'm not fat but I'm overweight. I've never been super thin, I've always had wide shoulders and hips. I always had a few kilos more. Until recently, I was afraid to dress the way I wanted, but recently I was able to finally show people who I really am. Thank you

[@christinamiller8846]

Thank you so much for this video🖤

[@Moonstormrising]

Awesome! Thank you for standing up for us fat goths!

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

Zeroy Crutiatum is one of the most beautiful persons I have ever seen and heard on youtube. This will always stay like this. He is very very beautiful from the inner and outside both sides. We all can learn a lot from him. If you have a different opinion you still have got a lot to learn! Greetings Patricia

[@annikalehtinen7786]

wonderful video 😊

[@treyderbyshire6612]

dude I love the message you put out there for people it is just so amazing

[@LunaCMXCrowRaven]

Amazing video, i really enjoyed watching, you had some good points and i agree with what you said in the video. Keep it up. Your awesome :)

[@IrmlindadeVries]

Thank you so much for this video, I cried a few tears watching you saying this.. It helps 💖 thanks again!

[@tylerlambert9643]

I subscribed thanks for that really helps and your right thanks man

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

You are really a diamond on the earth. I have met a lot of people but you are like a diamond to me. I hope you read this comment. Greetings

[@jazcastle2422]

Love your accent and this is such a gorgeous video xx

[@veganvampire4956]

You are such a sweetheart ^_^ I love your videos!

[@kalamadae]

Thankyou

[@GothicElf68]

Awesome video! Thank you! As a plus sized person, this means a lot.

[@destineedavis5282]

Loved this!! BTW your hair is amazing in this...

[@laurenmorgana6429]

You are a very kind soul and you are right Sir, the inside is what matters 🖤

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

Would you describe yourself as an artist? I very much look up to you because especially in this video you speak out of my heart. So you are great as you are and what you say touches my soul deeply. When I really am honest: You are the first and the only person on youtube with so touching and helpful words. It's unbelieveable. We all know words can hurt and words can heal. And that is what your words are to my heart and that is exactly why I must watch this video over and over again. Healing words do wonder. You are a present to everyone who is in contact with you. Lovely Greetings PS: You gave me back what I lost. Thank you very much.

[@Ps3N3rd92]

Ugh, I love to have a conversation with you! Your accent is awesome! x)

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

thank you!

[@cynthiabasil8356]

Thank you for saying this. 😎

[@chaela4044]

I wish more guys were like you! Good job on covering this issue as well.

[@meganphillips9185]

I just found your KZbin and I love this video very much. Means a lot. P.S. Lord of the Lost is one of the best.

[@marisaclark2410]

I always say when ppl call ppl ugly it's just that a ugly word. I get if someone isn't someone's type but we shouldn't bring each other down we should build each other up.

[@indigoblaster9328]

this is exactly what I thing. bein goth is style and style doesn't about your weight

[@larhetasmith7457]

Your shake is called an curvy goths ..thank you.essential basic tremor and it strikes toyng and elder people...I suffer from it....I am an elder curvy goth and appreciate your vlog on

[@WolfCookie-gz5yb]

hey i wanted to know what song this is

[@CandyCoated7779]

don't feel bad about the shakeing.i shake myself I have since I was a kid .a lot of people tell me mine could of been early stages of alcohol feedale syndrome .yours could possibly be MS atleast early stages or something else.I know this video is old so I hope here in 2019 your doing ok.whatever it is I hope they found it by now .

[@katiemckeever3758]

I love this video! You're so adorable😢

[@petraeb1183]

So inspiriting for me😍 I am chubby and this video maked me happy thank you

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

you're welcome, sweetheart :)

[@TwiggyandManson7]

I like that you have a good attitude with this sort of thing. I myself am not plus size but I think that more people should be like you

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Thank you, very kind! :-*

[@MissSelene2000]

I agree with you, size has nothing to do with being goth. Comment on your shaking : have you been tested for "essential tremors" ? I have essential tremors and that may be what you have...

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Hehe, yea I have them too ;) modern cameras have some kind of installed anti shaking device tho!

[@MissSelene2000]

I am glad you finally got a diagnosis :-) Not knowing is always worse. As it turns out, I found out over the years there are a lot of "shaky people" like us ;-)

[@dylanakent]

Well said! Bravo!

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

Hi Zeroy, what is your opinion about the german Band Rammstein? Greetings Patricia

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Patricia Ulbrich it's a great band but I rarely listem to them :)

[@coldstrawberryblood]

There isn't a weight limit for you being yourself!

[@mariomikulic9876]

I'm fat and a goth.. But I can't make myself look goth. I love goth clothes but in most of it I can't fit in.. And if I can (barely), I feel disgusting :(

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

That is actually something I wanted to work on, because I don't understand, why it is so hard to find any good looking goth clothes in extra sizes.. maybe i will try to make a video with some advice on what to wear as a bigger person in the goth scene some day!

[@mariomikulic9876]

I'd appreciate that a lot! I can't find ANYTHING goth in my country and my town, I can only dream of something in XXL, all I have is black tshirts, black jeans and dr martens boots. My town doesn't even have a hangout place for goths, makes you feel alone y'know :/

[@DollyBelladonna]

Ive been fat all my life, and hated being fat, I do admire of what your saying of us big ladies

[@OrianaBats]

I'm just so happy to find this video. I'm what you can consider a fat goth. In my country that's hard because, let alone the lack of stores where you can find gothy clothes (or clothes that you can modify, specially if you don't know how to sew very well. And even if you do, it's still hard to find fabric), the stores that have plus size clothes do not abound as well. And normally the clothes are not very interesting, because there's the idea that, if you're fat, it's good to have simple clothes to hide it. Also, the normal-size clothes they either don't fit me entirely or just on the shoulders, because I have large ones (large bones, not very fat shoulders).I have this dream of having a victorian-type dress, which is impossible in here. Not just because of size, but because I would be afraid of going out in the place that I live using it. I've a friend who got cigarrete burns for less than that (also a goth, but a more trad one). I found your video heartwarming. It's very good to know that there are people who think like that. I've seen nasty comments on the internet as well. People are stupid. And that kind of people doesn't help improving this situation --"

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

+Oriana Bats never, never ever be afraid of getting out in any kind of clothing. A nice looking victorian dress is easy to find on the internet. And since having a bit more weight was considered as beautiful in the victorian age, it is easy to find in larger sizes. And if you wear your dream dress (and as an clothing-technical assistent I can tell..) and you find yourself beautiful, you can go out anywhere you want. Ofcourse, ,,different'' people will always be a target, but if you want others to love you, you first should love yourself. So do not give a single f*ck about what others say about it. It's your life, so go and live it the way you want.

[@destinyhorn9295]

This is to true it really is upsetting when other people say you can't be what you want to be or already are because of you're body weight it really doesn't matter as long as you think what you think and ignore them dress the way you want to dress dont give two fucks about what other people say

[@writemeagoodone3071]

oh my goodness... you are wonderful.

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Thank you! :)

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

***** thank you! :)

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

I loved reading that! You are totally right!

[@GothicElf68]

+The Spit Dragon (Spitty) Well said!

[@marielafontaine7039]

Subbed cause of this video hunn, thank you

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Well, seems like I have to thank YOU ;)

[@marielafontaine7039]

Zeroy Cruciatum np, sweetie!!

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

I just want to say one thing: I love this man. He is great. I hope he will forever be fine.

[@francieklopotic4623]

YOU are gorgeous, and so is your outlook on life.

[@beccamayzayed3672]

Thank you I'm a goth person yah ... Maybe a bit over wait and I'll get comments like ur not allowed to goth your to fat....well I didn't know I had to be skinny...sometimes I wish those kinds of people would just disappear

[@elkavasileva7381]

when i look at the mirror,i saw....a skeleton...no kidding,i really saw this!!!!! but i like myself and i don't care what the others said about it!!!!

[@LizzyLovesSatan]

Awesome video! :D You're such a cool dude.

[@rachael3518]

Your amazing, I love you❤

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

thank you! x

[@adairfairchild4879]

To be honest, a lot of people including me find it's pretty cringy when ppl that are beyond being a bit overweight do this kind of stuff. You got to know that. But honestly, even if you could come off as that to some others, do you. If ur 300 pounds and want to embrace your Gothic side do it!! Other people are nothing to you when it comes to being yourself.

[@sarahlanier6288]

Well Said!!!! 💓

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

Interesting question: Do you believe in Karma? Lovely Greetings Patricia

[@techpriest6962]

Anyone can be almost anything, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be good or believable. Remember that.

[@CandyCoated7779]

of course we can Goth has no size,race,or gender

[@BendyDivine00]

I am a Gothic woman that has to use a wheelchair due to My genetic syndrome and have to use sign language, and yes I have extra pounds. I think that if you are happy it should not be anyone else’s opinion that matters. There are so many main stream people that berate us, so why berate each other with in our sub culture? I look at it this way, I have no business knowing what others think of us and vice versa. Spread love, not ignorance and hatred.

[@mommawolf6604]

thank you.

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

+Shadow Wolf you are welcome :)

[@mommawolf6604]

+Zeroy Cruciatum btw your hair does look better than the how to be goth tutorial video lol.

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

That vid is a bit old :D not only my hair looks better now... my opinion :D ;)

[@esoterica830]

Gods your so beautiful Z. Thank you

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

Hello Zeroy, is your sign of the zodiac cancer or scorpio? Your are sooo beautiful. Everything you say is beautiful. I send you a thousand of kisses. My sign of the zodiac is cancer. Cancers always want to help people. Greetings

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

Patricia Ulbrich hehe mine is actually scorpio ;) although I don't see myself as a typical one. Thanks for the thousand kisses! :)

[@fallenangel2567]

i'm fat and i love goth alot.

[@trinidadodell8155]

That how my mom think that she can't wear it because she big.

[@ladydatura2529]

People who have fat=humansGoth people= humansErgo people who have fat can OF COURSE be Goth people. Why do people still body shame? This subculture is all about not fitting in and being supportive about people who are different. Thank you Zeroy!! You are such a sweetheart for making this video to support beautiful chubby bats ❤❤ too many times at the club, women curvier than I tell me they wish they could wear what I wear... It makes my heart break... Because I look at skinnier alt models I work with and desire to look like them and wear what they wear.... It is all so ridiculous. Much love.

[@kellylolita1]

You rock man i am a goth and i am not a thin person and i have had other alternative poeple come up to me and say why are you wearing that you cant be goth With your size But what you said it gaves me hope that not all of the human race are assholes 👍👍👍👿☺

[@midnightriot2454]

I'm a bigger girl and I'm alternative, I've had comments too but don't worry about them. They don't know you, they don't know your life. Do what makes you happy. I hope you don't let it get to you x

[@coldservings]

I was on the high side of 270 a couple years ago. That didn't change my appreciation of dark things, my love for music like The Sisters of Mercy and Joy Division, my appreciation of a dark aesthetic. Nor does my being...much slimmer now change any of that. Goth is in the heart, not in the waistline.

[@blackcatmidnight3132]

All people can be goth💀💀

[@shelbybeckett7816]

thank you for saying size doesn't define goth

[@TaXicWaSte]

nice Video, youre a nice guy.

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

@Zeroy: You have got beautiful eyes.

[@glitterfairy2353]

Isn't what on the outside it's what on the inside that counts.

[@gina179]

I like this type of videos.It shouldn't matter how one looks ,being Goth has nothing to do with weigh

[@staceysa7008]

You seem to be a good friend i hope you are doing fine

[@babebibobu8]

Tolle "Botschaft" :) Ich gucke mir gerne deine Videos an auch wenn ich kein Gothik bin :)

[@CyborgTecnology18]

Of course they can, anyone who has a love for basic gothic bands can. And if you like only the aesthetics, I think so too. Now the issue of being overweight, we are talking about a person who has medical or personal problems. It's not the clothes you wear that's the problem, it's the care you give to your body.

[@davontegreen7619]

What’s the song in the background

[@ZeroyCruciatum]

All songs in description ;)

[@nikkyxlove21]

Love this video :D

[@CandyCoated7779]

yes they can.goth is supposed to be the most non judgemental group because they know what it's like to be ostricised by the general public yet there are people in the goth community who forget that and act stuckup and are no better then the people who judge them.

[@patriciaulbrich3039]

I love love love you.

[@ainsleydurning8782]

Amen. Truest words ever :)