Give Me an Answer - If All Religions Are Equally Valid, Does God Exist? or Does God Even CARE?

[@addz738]

Cliffe is one of the main guys that brought me to faith in Christ, I will be forever grateful for that, God bless you and your family

[@Kni7]

👌👌👌 God bless you too

[@nikokapanen82]

@@Kni7 Why are you throwing triple 6's to him?

[@MrVladteples]

@@gustavmahler1466 No that was because man rebelld against God

[@godislove363]

@@MrVladteples correct.

[@addz738]

@@gustavmahler1466 Hey, you need to read genesis in context. God makes it clear he isn't a big teddy bear to cuddle up to, when you wrong another person that can have serious consequences, but when you stand in the presence of God and disobey the creator of your very being there's a heavier price to pay which Jesus did for us. because still to this day we turn our back on God, who gave us our bodies to do so.

[@BossGoals]

Love how he respectfully discusses and doesn’t degrade or attack, I think that’s how many of our brothers and sisters fail.. I myself have become over passionate and had to step back and evaluate how I’m conveying the message. None of us are perfect but with God there is genuine love.

[@kunduzrouse5088]

Yeh, Cliffe extremely smart, he just needs genuine love with God, that way he would win souls

[@jazzbansal8097]

“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:3-4‬ ‭

[@godislove363]

Amen.

[@LucidVision138]

That's probably one of the best verses that strongly applies to today's society.

[@lmnop1022]

It depends on what you're calling sound doctrine, and what you're calling myth.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

yep, and thank goodness too, islam and christianity have had their day, the church is losing and soon it will just fade away, only to be replaced by some other superstitious clap trap, cos humans aren't the brightest.

[@JoshJ12]

@@HarryNicNicholas Just because Church attendance is decreasing in the west that does not equate a perpetual diminishing of Christian theology.

[@briscain]

The older I get in this world the more Jesus seems beautiful. Thank you Sir for your preaching on college campus but your message reaches far beyond.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

the older i get the more astonished i am that people fall for this scam. i hope you get some reward in the afterlife cos religion is just hokum.

[@jmproductions1227]

second dude was not intellectually capable of having a discussion like this in this setting, idk why he put himself in that situation, hard to watch.

[@aureliotheredeemed7566]

@JM Productions It’s the cocky idiot síndrome, it’s very perplexing to see someone that obviously doesn’t know what they are talking about and yet someone how the have the courage to voice their opinion.

[@Yue4me]

@@aureliotheredeemed7566 cuz they being teach that voicing their opinion is important. well yes , but IF the person actually capable to do so after learning how to do that properly.

[@ODEMUZIC]

@@Yue4me And if I’m aware of my incapability I can put it into a question, instead of ‘ventilating my opinion’.

[@Yue4me]

@@ODEMUZIC true

[@zealot777]

Very hard to watch. God bless Mr. Cliffe's patience.

[@factenter6787]

The 2nd man was confused and contradicting himself over, under, sideways, and down. Sad.

[@fobos9289]

GOD BLESS THIS MAN. HIS WORK IS SO PRECIOUS AND LOVING. A TRUE SAINT. AMEN, AMEN Y AMEN.

[@lmnop1022]

Which man?

[@HarryNicNicholas]

your capslock is stuck, probably got a nail driven into your keyboard somewhere. this man THINKS he's a ssaint, i'll give you that. god is probably turning in his grave listening to his BS though.

[@austinjames167]

Proverbs 29:9 if a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet. Seems like the Bible gets it right every time.

[@godislove363]

Amen.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

How's this for the bible getting it right? “Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.” (Genesis 22:1-18)

[@joiissacharaguelo4157]

David weeks Please read the whole story to understand the context and the purpose of the text

[@ramptonarsecandle]

@@joiissacharaguelo4157 it’s about murdering children. I can read. Would you murder your child if commanded by your god? Answer that

[@joiissacharaguelo4157]

@@ramptonarsecandle it's not about murdering children. it is only a test of faith to see if Abraham would obey God even if it means that he would let go of the thing that he always wanted to have. and at the end in verses 11 and 12, it says, "Just then the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, “Abraham, Abraham!” . “Here I am,” he replied. “Do not lay a hand on the boy or do anything to him,” said the angel, “for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your only son from me.” " God sent an angel to stop Abraham from killing his son proving that God's intention wasn't to kill Isaac, it was to measure Abraham's faith. God obviously doesn't want Abraham to murder his son, God's intention was to test Abraham if he is worthy to receive the promises that God declared. hope this clears things up.

[@ryanlegere9356]

I love this Cliff guy so patient and logical

[@reshjacobgodly216]

Lots of respect to you Sir! May God Bless your ministry

[@jacobtaylor4711]

You can immediately dismantle any kind of statement like "everything is subjective" by simply asking, "is it objectively true that everything is subjective". The objective denier instantly self defeats and contradicts his own statement by making an objective statement to deny objectivity.

[@panes840]

Agreed 👍🏼

[@justiny2215]

Not really, the problem is that subjective is not the same as relative. " Is it objectively true that everything is relative?" If you say yes that you just contradiction yourself. But everything is subjective is a sound statement. Subjective just means something is defined with a particular set of rules. So what's subjective? It's those things subject to rules. Objective means those rules are set to an object. So a painting can be subjectively good and objectively good. Morals can be objective and subjective. Example in what we call "Universal values" those are values that can be seen objectively. On the other hand Moral is subjective not objective because morals are rules of a society that are deemed good or bad. So morals are subject to the rules of a society, while universal values are a set of objects that can be observed. Example one universal values is civismo or civis virtue. Civismo is the act of being on the look out for other citizens in your country and help them lived and work day to day. You can see how civismo is has and objective to be met. That it's what makes it objective. It's clear and set, it doesn't change according to anyone. Now stealing is a subjective action. It can be good or bad according to different people and it's meaning can change. For someone stealing is taking things without announcing them, as long as you say " I am taking this" you can take whatever you want. So yeah, obviously not everything is subjective,. because we have objective values in life for different things. A boat can have objective values to determine it's hull integrity. Those values are objective, they will tell you if the hull meets the objective of working capacity. So, everything is not subjective, but a lot of things are both subjective and objective. The problem is people use relative and subjective thinking they are saying the same thing.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

1 Peter 3:15 "But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect, "

[@valroniclehre193]

I'm sure the multitudes of bible thumping hate groups would love to tell you all the ways that can be "interpreted".

[@godislove363]

@@valroniclehre193 you speak hate and bigotry how hypocritical.

[@valroniclehre193]

@@godislove363 No, I speak against using fantasy to justify atrocity. Be it, in the distant past or modern day.

[@godislove363]

@@valroniclehre193 caused by man from sin not God.

[@valroniclehre193]

@@godislove363 That's a given. God doesn't cause anything. His followers sure mess things up though.

[@victorpuato6217]

No religion can save only Jesus can save

[@ramoth777]

AMEN!!!

[@Viruz32]

I'm high right now and tried my best understanding the second guy. Feels like a fever dream.

[@ronhuggins696]

Cliff you're awesome buddy. Reaching out to these young people like you do....it is such a blessing. We as a church have failed our young people.

[@rossmoodie8489]

Another victory for the Gospel and truth

[@HarryNicNicholas]

in what way? what's the prize?

[@bvici22]

Found your channel not to long ago keep up the good work Cliffe! God Bless

[@BSterlsChoreo]

Woah. This one was REEEEALLY good.

[@jessebryant9233]

There are many atheists/skeptics/scoffers/cynics who troll this channel who are represented by the kids in the video above! Professing to be wise... but demonstrating otherwise. Hey, "There but for the grace of God go I!" EGAD!!

[@godislove363]

@@jessebryant9233 sorry yes, as we both know from God's Word.

[@koolaidman4461]

@@jessebryant9233 finally someone who notices that lol, it’s insane

[@myself5913]

Well done as usual. Thanks. Also, I couldn’t help but crack up at 8:50. Lol

[@KronStaro]

3:50 that is pure adolatry, against which your god commands. It is clearly stated that god does not want to have an image of himself. God does not have an image and can not be as personal as a human being, because that would make him a man, which is what Jesus Christ is, and is not god, because again, god has no image and can not be represented in an image of a human.

[@somerandom7672]

If you have an issue, as a Muslim, with Christ’s death because you don’t believe he would allow an innocent to suffer, remember that the sacrificial lambs were required to be without blemish. Remember the Passover and how it began. Christ told us that the Passover meal is his body and blood poured out for us, and to eat of it (to accept and partake in what he did). Yes, he suffered, but it was for the highest cause, and now he is at the right hand of the most high, and we each have an invitation to join Him. Remember when Abraham showed that he would sacrifice his only son to God? A sacrifice was provided in his place - stuck to a tree. Abraham is the father of faith, and his offspring the child of the promise. As Abraham was prepared to give his only son, God instead gave His. That isn’t weakness, it’s a display of immense love and power.

[@godislove363]

Amen, nicely said.

[@Kni7]

Eugh👌👌👌

[@gavingardner26]

I am grateful that a follower of Jesus Christ is respectfully having discussions with others about Jesus Christ, I hope to also do this some day

[@Fontleroyhigginbotham]

Student:. "Everything is subjective.". Is that a subjective statement?

[@HarryNicNicholas]

yes it is. and?

[@omariparker3769]

@@HarryNicNicholas No, it’s not. That’s the point.

[@FlowLikeWater429]

I LOVE the guy breaking down with a smirk at 9:50

[@zerubbablestranger6970]

I love Cliff and I appreciate his efforts. I know he’s a genuine Christian but,……. He frustrates me with some of his…… answers….. What I mean is although they’re good they sometimes don’t really fulfill the whole question. And then I look at my own apologetic answers and I realize I probably do the same thing. As has been said, “we don’t do the converting, God does. Our effort should be to just metaphorically “put a rock in their shoe” , give them something to think about. That’s how I see Cliff and others, including myself, are trying to “defend the faith”…. Keep it up Cliff, we’re praying for you!

[@justinmanning]

The poor guy in the purple sweater getting "slapped" and told he's "hated" haha! Love these thought-provoking conversations.

[@Muzicboy3]

Cliffe is a wonderful tool being used by the Lord… you have to be smart to debate with a lot of these kids on the video because they are so intellectual a lot of times. Cliffe stands on biblical principals and knows how to refute the kids points… he’s both really intelligent and a man of faith. That’s a deadly combination… glory to God 🙏🏾

[@ramptonarsecandle]

He's nothing but a creepy old perv. Should be banned.

[@TheMidnightModder]

@@ramptonarsecandle What? 🤣🤣🤣 He's not creepy, old or a perv. Whatever drug you're taking is messing you up bad.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

@@TheMidnightModder he is, why do you think every vid he does is at a school?

[@TheMidnightModder]

@@ramptonarsecandle He goes to colleges and talks to adults. And you think because of that he's a pervert? So you're saying that all college professors are perverts? Are you that daft or just baiting? Also, stop liking your own comments lmao

[@ramptonarsecandle]

@@TheMidnightModder why doesn’t he go to a shopping mall or a high street? They are equally valid places, no he goes to a school. He’s definitely creepy and you people are sick if you can’t see it.

[@rimaelkhoury7419]

True preaching amen God in Jesus Christ name through the Holy Spirit help these children see that

[@YoKinah]

Cliffe is so good at this lol the scripture that says everyone shouldn’t become teachers doesn’t apply to him lol he’s a great teacher

[@thunderx3005]

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven amen 🙏🏾

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

Amen... Praise Jesus, the King of kings and Lord of lords.

[@valroniclehre193]

@@GraftedOliveBranch The story of jesus is a vile fantasy.

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

@@valroniclehre193 Jesus is the most recognised historical figure in the history of humanity... Tell me, what year are we living in?...

[@valroniclehre193]

@@GraftedOliveBranch 2021 AD. I'm not gonna bash on christianity for the things it gets right. The gregorian calendar is good enough. This doesn't attest to the existence of your god any more than the Mayan calendar attests to theirs. Jesus may have existed as a normal cult leader but nothing more.

[@jasonnoble7814]

Prove it

[@kalyanrevella]

Wow he is so wonderful...explaining in a simple way..

[@Ephesians-yn8ux]

Love Cliffe! Stewart too! Watch all the time!

[@hilarytorres6546]

I wish it was their entire conversation

[@panes840]

I have only just found this channel. Cliffe is amazing. I'd love to know how to address all the differences in sensuality options and gender options in 2022. I sit on the fence with all that I see and hear so I'd love to have Cliffe explain what's happening here whether for good or bad.

[@Jeganathan_19]

Respect the muslim guy. Hope he sees the light at some point. Seems like a honest dude

[@ryanmacmaster9074]

i agree, he listened with respect and humility...

[@ryanmacmaster9074]

what your definition of light?

[@porCristo777]

God bless your ministry. I have learned a lot from this man of God. By the way. You look like Todd Friel from Wretched radio

[@olamideogunwale2956]

The relativism guy keeps insisting on "inflicted upon someone else's rights." My question is, who defines those rights? Who decides what they are? And how do we all agree that we have the same rights? Do rights differ according to age, gender, marital status, class, wealth etc, etc.

[@berane8909]

That's his point.

[@kokosijajuha3817]

Cliff has a great gift witnessing Christ. To believe in God we cant do it you can read and pray you still cant access God. Its all his timing and his choice and grace, God has to put his faith in you.

[@thunderx3005]

Daily reminder Jesus loves you amen 🙏🏾

[@godislove363]

Amen.

[@childofthelivinggod.]

Amen.

[@bvici22]

Amen

[@tdog4153]

Amen

[@ramelbrooks2316]

Amen

[@Diego-uthamanburnttheOGs]

Beautiful! He’s said just be consistent that planted so well.

[@chizomero7266]

9:16 "God doesn't exist" 12:44 "I'm not an atheist" 🤔

[@jasonnoble7814]

916 the Christian God does not exist

[@56pjr]

All religions are NOT equal. Christianity is true. All other religions are false

[@MikeKing-ei4cl]

@@56pjr how do you know ?

[@56pjr]

The same way you know God is real. I am recognizing that fact, you are denying it. Read Romans chapter 1. Then believe and be saved from your many sins.

[@jasonnoble7814]

@@56pjr You know naturalism is true, and there are no Gods, You just deny that out of brainwashed fear. Read God is not great

[@TheBeardedSandman]

15:44 - I had that exact hoodie from Aeropostale. It was my favorite for years!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

gee.

[@jbm-samomico2297]

Cliff IS AMAZING GOD BLESS YOU SIR ….AND MAY GOD GIVE YOU MANY YEARS OF GREAT TEACHING GOD'S WAY

[@l.a.6522]

The last muslim guy has nothing to say... all muslim must come to Christ... the fact that u r a muslim, u r in sin, u r wrong... u need forgiveness and u can be forgiven, u can b made right only thru the God of the universe Christ the Lord... He made it that way... He created Heaven and earth and said the only way any one can go to His house is thru Him...

[@OkayMaybeImDoneNow...]

"If you love me, keep My commandments." Jesus said this, so let's always remember that to stay away from sin, follow the law. I pray for every Atheist or struggling Christian out there because we can all get confused at times and we misunderstand God at times. But you should always remember that having an open mind to communicate with a stranger can be beneficial, so is having an open mind to communicating with God. When I felt lonely at times in my room at university, which I am a loner, knowing about God not only gives me a peace of mind, but it helps me know that I'm not completely alone. And faith in Jesus is trusting that He is truly with me in all my woes and celebrations, despite that I physically celebrate those alone. So whilst people say people create God so they don't feel lonely, that is not true. I feel lonely so God draws me to Him, why? Because He loves me, wants me to know that though I am physically alone, in my heart, He is with me. I feel that most Atheist think that lives of believers are all fairy tales, but to be honest, we have a had time being moral at times. But Jesus, having lived, died and risen, we know we can do it because He guarantees us that we can do it with Him as the template of how to live a life that benefits us through loving God and our neighbours. Spread repentance and love. Spread there gospel of His coming and the good news of Salvation.

[@wiggytv_]

The 3rd guy is confused lol

[@dogan6070]

Poor souls are confused.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

What exactly are they confused about? Can you provide an example?

[@godislove363]

KJV Proverbs 2:1-11 1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; 2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; 3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; 4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; 5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. 6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. 7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly. 8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints. 9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path. 10 When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul; 11 Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:

[@Fontleroyhigginbotham]

The students are so inconsistent, but they are so blinded, they can't see it.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

What exactly do these students not see?

[@godislove363]

Good job Miller.

[@-covid-20]

They are young impressionable people who are thirsty for spiritual knowledge this Cliff is trying to shepherd them correctly with sin so rampant on earth....

[@MikeKing-ei4cl]

I am amazed that Christians are willing to accept that God doesn't care; that is the opposite of what was advertised at conversion.

[@godislove363]

Ignore the troll.

[@MarkHunterSolo]

Cliffe seems to be a quality debator, but I do disagree with him on one point. He said he respects Mohammed because Islam has alms for the poor and is monotheistic rather than polytheistic. I believe that Mohammed was an utterly corrupt conman who associated himself with existing religions which had credibility (judaism & christianity) in order to set himself up as a supposed prophet. He needed to retain some help for the poor only for show to present a good face (2% zakat tax on income for muslims rather than 10% tithe common amongst jews & christians). The evils Mohammed did far outweigh any nominal showing of compassion as he was actually a warlord and a tyrant indulging in murder and slavery including sex slaves. Listen to some David Wood videos to see what muslim writings said about that monster fake prophet.

[@AshTheGamerIsAwesome]

david wood was exposed by a muslim in a moderated debate, bro.

[@MarkHunterSolo]

@@AshTheGamerIsAwesome There is no debate. Mohammed was not a jew so could not be a legitimate prophet. Jesus said salvation is of the jews (no arguments)

[@supermairo987]

@@MarkHunterSolo Romans 1:16, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek

[@Hussރ]

This perspectove of Muhammad is from sunni books, not shia. If you look at the shia books, Muhammad is represented as this pious knowledgable perfect human being. In sunni books, the disrespect to the Prophet is alot, making alot of people out of the muslim community to question what Muhammad really did. Also, Muhammad didnt need to ve a Jew to be a Prophet. In fact, the Jews were the ones who killed the Prophets, such as Prophet Yahya otherwise known as John the Baptist.

[@MarkHunterSolo]

@@Hussރ True enough that the Jews killed their own prophets. Jesus said as much in the parable of the wicked tenants where God finally sends them his Son in the hope that they will respect him (see Mark chapter 12). This is echoed in the Book of Hebrews chapter 1 “On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe”. The prophets ended with Christ the Son of God as Jesus was God’s final Word to mankind. Mohammed was a fraud and an anti-Christ to deny that Jesus was the Son of God. The truth was that Mohammed couldn’t compete with that…

[@redbeard8435]

I'm 41 years old I've been in every state in the United States have been in six other countries neither mean nor anybody I've ever met has ever seen or talked to an infinite being from a different dimension. I don't believe that desert dwellers in the bronze age did and I don't believe that this guy does.

[@rawvisions7592]

43 years old now, anything change?

[@jeremyleak3890]

JESUS is KNOCKING on your HEARTS DOOR. Romans 10:9-10 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

[@godislove363]

Amen, Prsise God.

[@vaio4908]

The debate going on reminds me of Noah and the flood. I think that there were many there thinking the same, until the rain came. Then they realized that they were simply educated fools... but it was too late. It is still hope now available, I was also one foolish person, even to the point of rising my fist toward heaven and challenging God. I am thankful for His patience with me.

[@walterruth5901]

I like Cliffe, but I wonder what he's doing sometimes. It's like he takes the roughest road to his point...

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i despise cliffe, he talks nonsense and people don't question it, he thinks he's got a direct line to the almighty, no one has. it would almost be worth god existing just so cliffe can stand in front of god and explain the BS he talks.

[@ianhelgerson6146]

It would be like a judge letting you go after robbing a gas station because you saved a bus full of kids from drowning. You still have to pay for your crimes. Otherwise the judge is unjust. You can't work your way to heaven, it doesn't erase the evil you've done.

[@5mjc]

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth,truth is a person called Jesus the Christ.Born again is being made real.In the image of.We have the mind of Christ.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Have you ever observed this 'Holy Spirit'?

[@donnyjay4269]

That second guy was high as a kite 😅

[@edluckenbill8363]

Give me a answer that that confirms your assertions. How dishonest . No critical thinking skills . Circular reasoning . A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[@teambible7803]

😁Give me an answer 1) “Where did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith should be based exclusively on a book?” 2) “Other than the specific command to John to pen the Revelation, where did Jesus tell His apostles to write anything down and compile it into an authoritative book?” 3) “Where in the New Testament do the apostles tell future generations that the Christian faith will be based solely on a book?” 4) “some Protestants claim that Jesus condemned all oral tradition (e.g., Matt 15:3, 6; Mark 7:813). If so, why does He bind His listeners to oral tradition by telling them to obey the scribes and Pharisees when they “sit on Moses’ seat” (Matt 23:2)?” 5) “Some Protestants claim that St. Paul condemned all oral tradition (Col 2:8). If so, why does he tell the Thessalonians to “stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thes 2:15) and praises the Corinthians because they “hold firmly to the traditions” (1 Cor 11:2)? (And why does the Protestant NIV change the word “tradition” to “teaching”?)” 6) “If the authors of the New Testament believed in sola Scriptura, why did they sometimes draw on oral Tradition as authoritative and as God’s Word (Matt 2:23; 23:2; 1 Cor 10:4; 1 Pet 3:19; Jude 9, 14 15)?” 7) “Where in the Bible is God’s Word restricted only to what is written down?” 8) “How do we know who wrote the books that we call Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Hebrews, and 1, 2, and 3 John?” 9) “On what authority, or on what principle, would we accept as Scripture books that we know were not written by one of the twelve apostles?” 10) “Where in the Bible do we find an inspired and infallible list of books that should belong in the Bible? (e.g., Is the Bible’s Table of Contents inspired?)” 11) “How do we know, from the Bible alone, that the individual books of the New Testament are inspired, even when they make no claim to be inspired?” 12) “How do we know, from the Bible alone, that the letters of St. Paul, who wrote to first-century congregations and individuals, are meant to be read by us as Scripture 2000 years later?” 13) “Where does the Bible claim to be the sole authority for Christians in matters of faith and morals?” 14) “Most of the books of the New Testament were written to address very specific problems in the early Church, and none of them are a systematic presentation of Christian faith and theology. On what biblical basis do Protestants think that everything that the apostles taught is captured in the New Testament writings?” 15) “If the books of the New Testament are “self-authenticating” through the ministry of the Holy Spirit to each individual, then why was there confusion in the early Church over which books were inspired, with some books being rejected by the majority?” 16) “If the meaning of the Bible is so clear-so easily interpreted-and if the Holy Spirit leads every Christian to interpret it for themselves, then why are there over 33,000 Protestant denominations, and millions of individual Protestants, all interpreting the Bible differently?” 17) “Who may authoritatively arbitrate between Christians who claim to be led by the Holy Spirit into mutually contradictory interpretations of the Bible?” 18) “Since each Protestant must admit that his or her interpretation is fallible, how can any Protestant in good conscience call anything heresy or bind another Christian to a particular belief?” 19) “Protestants usually claim that they all agree “on the important things.” Who is able to decide authoritatively what is important in the Christian faith and what is not?” 20) “How did the early Church evangelize and overthrow the Roman Empire, survive and prosper almost 350 years, without knowing for sure which books belong in the canon of Scripture?” 21) “Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?” 22) “Why do Protestant scholars recognize the early Church councils at Hippo and Carthage as the first instances in which the New Testament canon was officially ratified, but ignore the fact that those same councils ratified the Old Testament canon used by the Catholic Church today but abandoned by Protestants at the Reformation?” 23) “Why do Protestants follow postapostolic Jewish decisions on the boundaries of the Old Testament canon, rather than the decision of the Church founded by Jesus Christ?” 24) “How were the bishops at Hippo and Carthage able to determine the correct canon of Scripture, in spite of the fact that they believed all the distinctively Catholic doctrines such as the apostolic succession of bishops, the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, etc?” 25) “If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?” 26) “How could the Apostle Thomas establish the church in India that survives to this day (and is now in communion with the Catholic Church) without leaving them with one word of New Testament Scripture?” 27) “If sola Scriptura is so solid and biblically based, why has there never been a full treatise written in its defense since the phrase was coined in the Reformation?” 28) “If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?” 29) “If the early Church believed in sola Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?” 30) “If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?” 31) “The time interval between the Resurrection and the establishment of the New Testament canon in AD 382 is roughly the same as the interval between the arrival of the Mayflower in America and the present day. Therefore, since the early Christians had no defined New Testament for almost four hundred years, how did they practice sola Scriptura?” 32) “If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?” 33) “Jesus said that the unity of Christians would be objective evidence to the world that He had been sent by God (John 17:20-23). How can the world see an invisible “unity” that exists only in the hearts of believers?” 34) “If the unity of Christians was meant to convince the world that Jesus was sent by God, what does the ever-increasing fragmentation of Protestantism say to the world?” 35) “Hebrews 13:17 says, “Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.” What is the expiration date of this verse? When did it become okay not only to disobey the Church’s leaders, but to rebel against them and set up rival churches?” 36) “The Koran explicitly claims divine inspiration, but the New Testament books do not. How do you know that the New Testament books are nevertheless inspired, but the Koran is not?” 37) “How does a Protestant know for sure what God thinks about moral issues such as abortion, masturbation, contraceptives, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.?” 38) “What is one to believe when one Protestant says infants should be baptized (e.g., Luther and Calvin) and another says it is wrong and unbiblical (e.g., Baptists and Evangelicals)?” 39) “Where does the Bible say God created the world/universe out of nothing?” 40) “Where does the Bible say salvation is attainable through faith alone?” 41) “Where does the Bible tell us how we know that the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle?” 42) “Where does the Bible provide a list of the canonical books of the Old Testament?” 43) “Where does the Bible provide a list of the canonical books of the New Testament?” 44) “Where does the Bible explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?” 45) “Where does the Bible tell us the name of the “beloved disciple”?” 46) “Where does the Bible inform us of the names of the authors of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?” 47) “Where does the Bible [tell us] who wrote the Book of Acts?” 48) “Where does the Bible tell us the Holy Spirit is one of the three Persons of the Trinity?” 49) “Where does the Bible tell us Jesus Christ was both fully God and fully man from the moment of conception (e.g. how do we know His Divinity wasn’t infused later in His life?) and/or tells us Jesus Christ is One Person with two complete natures, human and Divine and not some other combination of the two natures (i.e., one or both being less than complete)?” 50) “Where does the Bible that the church should, or someday would be divided into competing and disagreeing denominations?” 51) “Where does the Bible that Protestants can have an invisible unity when Jesus expected a visible unity to be seen by the world (see John 17)?” 52) “Where does the Bible tell us Jesus Christ is of the same substance of Divinity as God the Father?”

[@calebwilson5370]

that's a lot of questions

[@zojo1498]

Sit down with a charismatix Catholic priest who has a degree in theology and history if you want all of these answered bcs thats a lot of questions and aint nobody got time to write the answers to all of that.

[@jordangarcia3833]

No rape is just wrong.

[@ryanmacmaster9074]

but do you get the point?

[@wianvanzyl3766]

Where is the rest of the video? I want to see the end

[@cameroneagle4370]

its so funny the gay guy wants the right to get married , with approval from Christians.

[@RoseInTheWeeds]

Why is that funny?

[@ryanmacmaster9074]

@@RoseInTheWeeds Its not funny but he is trying to say that christians are not suppose to support homosexuality because God does not support homosexuality. All being said, have a blessed day...lets pray for one another.

[@walkercresswell1721]

Cliffe should have asked that kid “why is it objectively wrong to inflict on someone else’s rights.”

[@larzman651]

JESUS SAVES

[@larzman651]

@@gustavmahler1466 those that went to heaven sure was. Those that went to hell made their choice as well. So yes some were SAVED from disaster

[@jamesemerson4102]

"Everything is subjective." - If everything is subjective, that very statement is subjective and essentially meaningless to anyone else.

[@curious1053]

All religions can’t be true but they can all be false. Reject Christianity, consider atheism.

[@godislove363]

Sorry I follow truth of God and athiesm offers only emptiness.

[@curious1053]

@@godislove363 atheism offers freedom from believing in such things.

[@chesterparsnip]

@@godislove363 Atheism offers choice and freedom, religion offers nothing except indoctrination and lies (oh and they want your money!)

[@godislove363]

Just the opposite is true but that is for you to figure out one day the heart of mine Hefty open the truth and that is your free will.

[@curious1053]

@@godislove363 I was born and raised Christian so I know how hard it can be to see past the conditioning. Believing in things that were only told to me and never explained how it was done. I was taught anything outside Christianity was wrong or evil yet these were only things said to scare me into staying a believer. It takes time, but anyone can begin their journey to free themselves from religion.

[@FOTWC]

Ppl focus so much on the negative and their bad experiences determine if God cares or if he exists. They disregard all the good all their riches even the air they breathe

[@ramptonarsecandle]

More religious twaddle, none of it provable and completely lacking in evidence.

[@STAUNCHTV]

I watched halfway before i realized he is a religion nut hahha. i like how this guy speaks, this is what i mean about decent arguments to my opposition. spot on

[@toddyahushua7972]

Thus says The Lord: Behold, My Word has went forth and sounds in all the earth, resounding through My body, by mouth and by trumpet. For I am The Lord, and I do not change; as I am, so shall I be and have always been; even from everlasting to everlasting, I AM. Therefore, I have spoken it and shall say it again before this perverse and wicked generation, though they can in no wise bear to hear it: I AM COME![1] THE TIME IS HERE! And behold I, The Lord your God, will do nothing until I have revealed My plans to My servants, the prophets.[2] And this I have done. Give Me glory! Kiss The Son! For darkness is overhead and great turmoil has come upon this generation, the likes of which no generation before has ever seen, the Great and Terrible Day of The Lord! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth! For The Lord your God is coming down to you in judgment and for great ruin, FOR CALAMITY! Behold, I am coming out of My sanctuary to destroy, until there is no sin left upon the earth, until all things have bowed down before Me, to give Me glory! And to those who kiss The Son, to them I shall be God, very close at hand; even they shall rest upon My bosom. Yet to those who forsake Me, who do always rebel against Me and curse My name and The Messiah, to them also shall I be God, very close at hand - The God of vengeance and recompense! The God of judgment and justice! www.thevolumesoftruth.com/The_Voice_of_The_Almighty_God?fbclid=IwAR3xiJz_N_VX1tvgIis3w43dHlhVFkoj6cbHJbFQ8eCwMD8FU3LuAv9acCM

[@prico3358]

I comepletely understand what the kid was trying to say. I have a theory about islam... My theory is that islam was actually christianity beign taught to a different language and the differences came to be in translation. I belive that mohamed tried to teach scripture in his own interpretation because of the language berrier made his theology switch in fundamentals... For example... When islam says jesus wasnt crucified it only appeared to be... Maybe what it means that he wasnt killed by others will but it was Gods will all along.. But then you explain it in arabic, and theres no escape but to take it literal.. spliting one fundemental belief into 2 different ones.. I think that mohamed was some kind of joseph smith or JW type thing.. where they scratched their head on thing they didnt understand... And decided to interpret themselves, and ended up with a whole different theology. For example mohamed could have learned that theres only One God from scripture... But not understand the trinity and no way to understand it because his mind works in his first language wich makes it imposible to mean trinity= 1 ... Give it hundreds of years more and the gap expands.

[@mpress469]

If God is love, then God is best explained through demonstration.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

How so? Can you provide an example?

[@dazaiel8081]

@@theoskeptomai2535 ...Have you never experienced love before? Lol

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@dazaiel8081 Of course. So will you answer my question?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@dazaiel8081 Well?

[@douglasross3259]

​@@theoskeptomai2535By the forgiveness of your sins, by preparing an eternal loving home for you, by loving you equally, and by the sacrificial everlasting agape love!

[@nwzz2916]

22:05 well said, i'm going to warn you that what you're doing is against the creator of the universes purpose (and law) for us. Breaking that rule isn't going to be a good thing for him.

[@AMKmusic96]

This one has me going Huh??? At times 😆 (at the questioners)

[@ProudChristian73]

I cannot stand talking to people who can’t comprehend a simple concept!!! Just move on! Save who you can!!

[@johnelnazareno1128]

I will just pray for the guy in white jacket….may the Holy Spirit awaken you brother. Peace be to you 🙏🙏🙂🙂

[@edmundpasan529]

It is not religion that matter most but us as individuals. That is to be dependant on God at every minute of our lives.

[@AlphaAchilles]

People really get angry at the God they claim they don’t believe in. It’s scary that these kids cannot see how lost they are. It’s like trying to convince someone who won’t believe you that they have cancer but you know for a fact they do. If God exists (which he does) than not telling others would be horribly evil because you would be passively allowing people to go to hell for all eternity. Eternity is a long time and people really need to start taking that seriously.

[@Chrisstian111]

15:44...this guy does not like Christianity because he believes Christians hate gay people. He is very arrogant and defensive. Cliffe did a great job not losing his composure.

[@addyzee1335]

You’re amazing Cliffe 🙏

[@master_chief723]

for the second guy would have been better to keep it a bit longer to make the point that the guy (in cliff's scenario) wasnt ready and doesnt really love his girlfriend

[@thattimestampguy]

9:37 Why are you using language if everything is subjective? 12:07 I am working hard to understand you 16:14 God don't make junk "From my perspective" 18:15 If there is God, Objective Value no God, No Objective Value 21:30 The Law Says You Can Be A Homosexual You Have A Right Watch Out! You're Violating God's Law 24:54 Christians are Saved through Grace Earned Heaven, Graced Heaven

[@algie-t2w]

As an Agnostic I pay my respects to this gentleman.

[@johneliewardan656]

Respect to that last guy that was such a good debate

[@Divinityr6]

One of the best videos ever

[@agustinh.616]

In the Bible it clearly states that one is not saved by grace alone. St. Paul says this and says that you are saved by your works and by believing in Christ. Believing in Christ means that you do all that he says and that you love him just as he said he wants you to. Christ himself says if you love me you will do my will. His will is then stated to be the commandments. If you don’t believe anything or part of what I have said, you haven’t read the Bible.

[@godislove363]

Correct, "IF YOU LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS." We if loving and trusting in God should naturally want to do good works not to be saved but because we are saved.

[@sequituranimus7145]

Why would it be illogical or unreasonable for there to be an impersonal god? I mean a god, depending on the definition, is vastly superior to humans, why would it care? I also love the saying, "Not all religions can be right, but they all can be wrong". So far not one has been able to move their claim out of the hypothetical stage.

[@FearGodandRepent]

Cliffe knows a lot about the bible enough to debate, but... He's wrong on the Trinity... God is not 3 in one... Otherwise he would say he was... Father , Son, and Holy Spirit are just titles... Father- that's God, Son- that's the flesh man Mary birthed, and Holy Spirit - that's God.. as a matter of fact The Holy Spirit and the father are the same being... God is a spirit... And he says for to be Holy for He is holy so that means he's a Holy Spirit... He also created all things so he's the father of all things... The Son is not a God but a man who God used

[@Starius65]

If Jesus was just a man, then he cannot take on the sins of the world. He can take the sins of one man, but not all mankind.

[@FearGodandRepent]

@@Starius65 the man could and did... For he was made with no sin at all so he was pure and holy since birth... Scriptures says in 2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made" him", ( Jesus the man) to" be sin for us", ( take on our sins) who knew no sin; ( Jesus the man was sinless) that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. ( that we might be in right standing with the God that was in the man Jesus)

[@gregariousguru]

You can say what is wrong to one person is wrong to the other person by using universal consistencies. A thief might believe it's subjectively ok to steal, until the moment he is stolen from. A liar may think its okay to lie, until he has felt the dishonesty and betrayal himself. Nobody wants tortured....nobody wants enslaved... nobody wants dooped...nobody wants to be murdered, lied or stolen from.

[@vaio4908]

Forgiveness is without a doubt important, but that is not all. Letting Christ transform us from within is equal important.

[@ch33psk8]

Isn't it an act of free will that brings us to love someone.. and Who gave us this free will ? They may not be mutually exclusive.

[@curiousgeorge555]

The Muslim fellow seemed quite genuine and humble. I hope he finds Jesus Christ. QUESTION: Does anyone know of a KZbin channel where people talk about deep theological questions within the context of Christianity as their world view? I've been a born again believer for 40 years. Every so often I come up with (or the possbibly the enemy sends the thought) a question that plagues me and hinders my faith to one degree or another. Maybe a Facebook group?

[@godislove363]

What are some of those q's that hinder? Be careful, many wolves here will take advantage of your wobble.

[@curiousgeorge555]

@@godislove363 We all have questions. Some people are more honest about them than others. Correct, this is not the place. My old pastor is a brilliant man. He can't begin to answer some of the q's I have. It's not the "problem of pain" although that is a biggie for most thinking believers.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Paulogia is a great KZbin channel to answer your questions.

[@curiousgeorge555]

@@theoskeptomai2535 I see we have a comedian in the room.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@curiousgeorge555 Guilty!

[@jepr91]

This dude keeps saying that everything is subjective but insists that the line is drawn where you afflict on someone else's subjective rights, like racism sexism, etc., as if him drawing that line isn't afflicting on the subjective rights of the racist, sexist, etc.

[@rbrack54]

How could a student of higher learning not be able to understand truth when they hear it.

[@rbrack54]

@@danielmullings3600 For something to be true it must be true no matter where you are born or the culture you were brought up in. Just because I may be brought in in 1930s Germany does not make the thought that Jews are animals to be slaughter True. Truth has to be sought out no mater your circumstance or place of origin. The fact that Killing babies is wrong is not a truth that takes much thought to parse out. You just know it instinctively. Most of these students know some of the things they are doing are wrong but refuse to admit it because they like the way they are living.

[@rbrack54]

@@danielmullings3600 That is part of it but it is more complicated than that. I would not expect them to understand the things that he tells them that they should study and research their self. My point is mainly about objective morals. They seem to have a blind spot when it comes to moral relativism as opposed to object moralism. They do not seem to be able to get their hands around the fact that Moral absolutes demand morality which is constant and unchanging as opposed to moral relativism that cam be created by you are a consensus of men. They some how do not understand that if we make our own morals we can change them. Even if it is not overnight but bit by bit until they have moved all the way to the other side of what they thought was once right is now wrong. Who are they to tell anyone what is right are wrong when they are the one that made it up. Who died and mad them God. See what I am getting at. If we have no benchmark in which to test our morals on. No absolute law if you will. Then anyone is moral with whatever he chooses to call moral. Like a Hitler in 1930's Germany. I do not need a consensus of men to tell men Killing babies is wrong, because to me it is a moral absolute, but with moral relativism who is to call Hitler out for what he did to the Jews or killing babies? Hope that make sense.

[@RoseInTheWeeds]

@@rbrack54 Let me see if I can ballpark an answer. I am not blind to the fact that moral relativism is relative. However, I think you take it down a weird path. "Who are they to tell anyone what is right are wrong when they are the one that made it up," Me a person that they share this reality with. I base my morality on wellbeing. This choice is subjective, but once I use it as a base, I can make objective statements and critiques of their actions based on that. I personally hold value in the well-being of the other people. Therefore I don't think they should be genocided. How do I convince them? Depends on the person, but many arguments can be made on why one should care about others. "I do not need a consensus of men to tell men Killing babies is wrong, because to me it is a moral absolute, but with moral relativism who is to call Hitler out for what he did to the Jews or killing babies?" Since I do not believe in moral absolutes, I obviously disagree. While I agree that killing babies is immoral, and should be legislated against a strong feeling is not the same as Truth. I do not need the consensus of the bible to tell me what's right and wrong, just think and decide for myself. For example, I hold that slavery is immoral, even though the bible expressly condones it. Same thing with situational genocide.

[@rbrack54]

@@RoseInTheWeeds Sorry but if you think the bible supports slavery and after all I wrote about moral absolutes and you still don't understand you then are at the same place as the college students. You are either intellectual dishonest are willfully blind and we must agree to disagree. I see Cliffe try over and over and they just don't get it. I am not willing to keep at it. Just know you can not live your life as if their are no absolutes. Have a life . I would say a nice life but if everything is relative there is no nice it just is.

[@RoseInTheWeeds]

@@rbrack54 My apologies, but that comes off a bit aggressive. Do you perhaps think I am someone else? I said the bible condones slavery, not that it supports it. Me disagreeing with you is not willful blindness, it is a difference of opinion.

[@matthewdavidlandberg91588]

I agree with Cliffe with this one. If all religions are true, then GOD is impersonal & void but if all religions are not true then GOD is personal and outside time, space & matter. One (Echad) GOD in three persons (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) is the One True GOD.

[@etiennebisset5642]

In Islam's teachings God's love and justice are irreconcilable. It will be one or the other, not both at the same time. In Christianity, God is both love and justice. Jehovah loves mankind that He send His one and only Son Jesus to pay the penalty of sins and thus meet the justice that is required by the Law: Death to sinners. And God stamped His sign of approval on Jesus' act by raising him up from the death.

[@ronielukurawak935]

Where is this place where this good discussion of the eternal word of God being discuss?? I want to come and discuss the word of God there too...

[@godislove363]

First, this is an old video re-uploaded second of all he goes to many universities throughout the US, at least he did. before covid

[@psychedelicavacado4290]

Well it kind of comes down to forgiveness but is it really "forgiveness out of Grace" if the pain, suffering and punishment was deliberately and in advance given to the kindest among souls; not because he deserved it but just because he could take it and I needed it to be saved hence died for my sins? How is this a plan of redemption from a fair and just God?

[@mr.daniel2000]

I want to ask him how does he think people got saved before the year 1517. Before that, Catholicism was the only form of Christianity in which you literally had to pay money to get to heaven. Do Christians think that all people who died before 1517 went to Hell? Protestant Christianity is very new from a relative standpoint.

[@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs]

Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead