Greta Thunberg Detained In Germany Over Climate Change Protest

German police move to evacuate a small village to make way for a coal mine, Greta Thunberg and climate change activists stand in their way.
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[@PlatinumAltaria]

Americans seeing the police not beat journalists to death: "This is clearly staged, the police wouldn't act like that".

[@KandeeKush]

this lmao

[@neco9590]

For real though, and how can two police officers hold that 20-year-old halfling woman (literally though, no shade, but she looks so damn tiny lol) without beating her to the brink of death first?

[@everest9994]

As an Austrian (right next to Germany) I can tell you that the police is still brutal and shitty sometimes, but it’s far different than what I regularly see happening in the states. When the police shot and kill someone here it’s a big news story, because it’s not a regularity. Sure, Austria is a much smaller country, but police officers also have to go through much longer and higher quality training compared to officers in the U.S. Like, they can be shitty because the job often attracts shitty people, but I have never seen officers who escalated basically a problematic situation all by themselves like I’ve seen from the States.

[@mochtegerndane7097]

@Harrison Ashley Actually - and this is what the Amerikkkans do not get: Greta was not arrested. The cops took her away for a "personenkontrolle", which basically means, she had to show her passport. That done, the report is sent to the prosecutor, who will then decide how large her fine is going to be. It is that simple. The cops did the same "person control" with a lot of the protesters. The reason why everyone is laughing is obvious: Greta has no way in hell, that she can try to use another name or a fake ID. And honestly: It is funny, when the cops have to ask her, what her name is...

[@Xaphnir]

@@neco9590 Israeli police: "Well, we'd have our snipers shoot her, first."

[@nickvencill7752]

The fact that the whole "it was a setup arrest" argument is based on the fact that the police AREN'T being violent is a bit of a tell on american police

[@sophiatrocentraisin]

Yup, that's not the flex they think it is. Moreover, there are some people you don't want to be physically violent with if you wish to keep some kind of confidence from the public. In other words, you don't want to fall in the Gandhi trap

[@JohnWick-rh1zz]

Well we've seen some videos of her laughing with the cops so...

[@swanpride]

It's not even an arrest. They just detained her to take her personalities and both sides of the exchange know how riddiculous that is, because everyone KNOWS who she is, but that's what has to be done.

[@peterpan4038]

All of those protesters wanted to occupy that tiny town to send a mesage, removing them from the premise is the only thing that needed to happen. It's not like those folks are hardened criminals. Your average football game (or soccer for my US friends) involves a lot more violence from and against cops in europe. ^^

[@raymondleggs5508]

It's almost as if police don't have to use violence.

[@chapito2001]

She’s the real Top G frfr

[@longlivethesheet4561]

Beat me to it

[@BougGroug]

Top Greta

[@hyperboliccancers3269]

"When I'm gone they'll just find another monster. They have to. To justify their wages."

[@-Infex-]

FREE TOP G! FREE TOP G!

[@shoutmon1337]

@@hyperboliccancers3269 In a world full of monster, best to have a few Witchers. Payed or not, there's still monsters need slaying. Shame tate was like lv 5 contract when he talked himself up as lv 20, probably shouldn't have done that so much.

[@CommanderLex]

PSA: Here in Germany, the robed guy is always referred to as a monk, not a wizard.

[@VictoriousGardenosaurus]

Thank you, I must amend my comment.

[@themightymcb7310]

What is a wizard if not a monk who casts spells?

[@cryingcrane8173]

He's got a wizard hat though!

[@dasneko7218]

That is a good point! Wizard hat trump's monk outfit.

[@healgoth]

Mud monk!

[@TheTenguwarrior]

It is quite a testament to the American police expierence that scenes were somebody doesn't get shot at, roughed up or cuffed up and is still able to smile must be obviously a fake arrest xD

[@fabulamcafee]

Just wait 10 years because germany starts getting dangerous and therefore the violence needs to be countered. I don’t think you have that bad of police officers and I haven’t seen a bad case on body cam since a long time.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Haha yeah the right wingers saying it must be fake because she didn't get shot made me laugh (and puke a little bit in my mouth), because they have gladly accepted that state of affairs for the US and they believe the rest of the world has too

[@fangsabre]

@@guillaumelagueyte1019 that, or it's them saying criminals SHOULD be shot first

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

@@fangsabre yeah, and also the fact that she was cooperative makes it some kind of conspiracy even if they always claim people should be cooperative and then things would be fine. It's all so confusing to them

[@Lich_V.]

@@fabulamcafee just curios, in what ways do you think it gets more dangerous?

[@freedomofmusic2112]

Those cops were lucky the mud wizard chose to spare them. I hope they realize he could have made the earth open up and swallow them, but mud wizard is kind

[@KayLee-lw5iv]

Yeah, he wouldn't have wanted to help get a head start on the digging part of this whole thing. His self control is legendary.

[@marocat4749]

But isnt it a mud monk sideclassing as wizard? Or i he a weird druid?!

[@aristizle8797]

I'm para socially proud of her.

[@nicksanders9148]

aww that kinda sweet 😄

[@TyroneBackyardiagains]

Honestly same

[@kirbysthiccthighs]

same tbh- queen popped off

[@Palemagpie]

I really think we should start referring to Greta as top G. Make it like a Highlander thing. And she's clearly more powerful than Taint.

[@charcole400]

I’m on board for this

[@lil_weasel219]

Yeah no. I think it is imperative that that kind of parasocial worshipping stays out of environmental activism/movements.

[@Palemagpie]

@@lil_weasel219 boo you're no fun.

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@lil_weasel219it’s not worshipping it’s a joke

[@TwelfthClover]

Top G vs Bottom G

[@THarSul]

That shot of the excavator at 6:45 hurts, tearing apart farmland which literally cannot be replaced and is required to produce food to feed the populace, in favor of digging up coal that will be burned once where it then warms the climate, making it harder to live.

[@GeoStreber]

You know that the soil they dig away is redeposted in already coal-empty parts of the mine, right? You can see this quite well on google earth, east of the A44 motorway. There already seem to be new fields where the mine used to be just a few years ago.

[@THarSul]

@@GeoStreber reassuring to hear, but it doesn’t change the fact that in regions outside of Germany, they don’t appear engage in that behavior, as evidenced by the examples of torn apart hillsides provided in the video.

[@TealJosh]

Yeah, while it is very dystopian. EU has rules where nature restoration is mandatory for project like these, so the damage to the land is not completely permanent. It's still extremely damaging to biodiversity and takes decades to fully recover. It's usable farmland not too many years after restoration.

[@THarSul]

@@TealJosh thank you for the clarification, glad to hear this is EU wide and not just in Germany

[@GeoStreber]

@@THarSul The areas in germany that are strip mined like this are in a very flat area. It's basically washed-up sedimentary flatlands around the Rhine river, which is why refilling is rather easy.

[@jamesgoines4635]

It is so backwards to me to go from nuclear energy back to mining coal.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

get used to it, soon we'll be burning books to do it

[@TheOldSchoolGamer93]

@@kantraxoikol6914 that would be some efficient fascism right there. Two birds one stone

[@nRumbaII]

if u look at the graph again u see the coal became less and the renewables made up for all of the nuclear there are even predictions that the planned phasing out of nuclear gave renewables more place to grow(complex topic not worth elaborating here)

[@STOKERMATHALLAN]

@@nRumbaII Yes, coal had declined greatly but clearly they're still doing it and any amount of it causes far more trouble than nuclear energy, they fully intend on getting more energy and it should at least be nuclear... Also apparently Lignite which is bigger on the graph than coal is a worse version of coal

[@Argacyan]

it's perfectly in line with conservatives in Germany, who blocked renewables as much as they could legally (or illegally) during the reduction in nuclear.

[@Ghee_Buttersnaps]

7:39 ”Mud Wizard” sounds like a guy that makes really good coffee ☕😊

[@ApartmentPrepping]

Sounds like a guy that doesn’t stop pounding a bottom when he really should.

[@falconeshield]

@@ApartmentPrepping Some tact. Maybe the bottom likes it.

[@cosmictraveler1146]

@@ApartmentPrepping NOOOOOOO NSFL MENTAL IMAGE

[@youtubeusername2254]

Or has chronic diarrhoea

[@Audio_noodle]

In finnish mythology Väinämöinen (the main guy) signs another guy, Joukahainen into a bog, the mud wizard is truly a master of ancient arts.

[@efebrahim]

wat

[@draexian530]

A true champion of the land.

[@CFilmer]

Some information/opinion from a German: About nuclear power: Anti-nuclear was a big part of the enviromentalist movement in the 70s and 80s. While they had some realistic concerns about the waste (Europe doesn't have huge deserts like the US), most of it was either overdrawn or outright false. The parliamentary voice of the activists was the party Die Grünen (the greens). In the early 2000s, the party was no longer an opposition party, but ruled alongside the SPD (social democrats). The nuclear phase-out was the core of the Grünens brand, so they had to come up with a plan on how to carry it out. While as a socialist I loathe that red-green government of the time (you can compare it to New Labor in the UK), the nuclear plan wasn't as bad as it could have been. It would have been a slow and considered phase-out that prioritized the coal exit. The conservative government that followed immediately canceled the nuclear phase-out. It was only when the Greens rapidly gained votes as a result of the Focushima disaster that Merkel came up with a new plan for phasing out nuclear power. This one was hasty and served no purpose other than to win the next election. For the next ten years, nuclear power was almost never discussed. The new generation of climate activists weren't nearly as keen on it, mostly avoiding the issue to avoid sparking internal squabbles. Last year it was decided to let the remaining nuclear power plants run longer. This did not trigger any major protests, but coal mining in Lützerath did. The climate movement in Germany has changed. That's also the reason why I always find it a bit condescending when non-German observers comment on the protesters in Lützerath with "they're to blame themselves". Speaking of which... About Lützerath and climate activists: That Germany needs the coal from the new mining areas for the energy supply is a blatant lie. According to calculations, the existing areas are absolutely sufficient to supply the surrounding power plants until the planned phase-out of coal. RWE (a gigantic private energy corparation) used its power and money to gain an advantage in the coal phase-out negotiations. The exit is now scheduled earlier, but RWE is allowed to mine the same amount of coal in less time. Germany is dangerously close to breaking the Paris Climate Accords, building the pit would be the final nail in the coffin. This is all happening at a time in which climate activists in Germany are being attacked like never before by the press and conservative politicians. Some of them are arrested for peaceful protests. There are people who wish they could run over them with their cars. The Greens and the SPD no longer show solidarity either. They declared the climate movement to be infiltrated by left-wing extremists. A tough crackdown by the police is said to be necessary. Show full solidarity with the young climate activists of today! Feel free to mention that Germany has had a tangled past with nuclear power, but like everywhere else in the world this is primarily a struggle against private coal and fossil industries, corrupt politicians and fascist networks.

[@wendylafolle]

👍 Focus on the real enemy!

[@_extrathicc]

Classic SPD move, just like they did to the unions and mutined soldiers in 1918

[@QT5656]

There are definitely some parallels with how things have been the UK.

[@telefonjoker23]

It's interesting to see how Americans view the German police action and how it's over here. They are like "they didn't shoot them, so civilized!" while we have a discussion about police violence. What's unfortunately overlooked internationally is that the actions of the police were still out of hand for a largely peaceful protest. And the injuries of the police are blown way out of proportion. They twisted their ankle in the mud. How terrible. And conservatives use that as ammo to paint the protesters as no better than the black block, saying the injured protesters actually deserved it. I'm really not looking forward to how this will now poison any discussion about climate change in Germany.

[@baul997]

Well tbf that climate activists get attacked more is cause of the idiots gluing themselves onto streets day after day aiming their protest in my opinion onto the wrong people cause these guys have the mentality of every publicity is good wich is true on paper but it let's out that people start hating climate protesters more and more and associate the glue protesters with the normal ones wich is bad if you want the general population at your side

[@cyclopop]

germanys energy policy been stupid since forever

[@Turisteiro291]

Considering they scaled back their previous infrastructure. Someone once was right in the past

[@5th_decile]

PV technology would not be where it is today without this "initially wasteful" policy. Vaush's takes on energy are just not that fantastic...

[@XMysticHerox]

Germany is among the nations that has reduced it's carbon emmissions by the most in the past decades. It's not as good as it could be but I would not call it stupid.

[@5th_decile]

Vaush is one of those people which give me the idea that there is a distinct (white?) gamerboy millenial demographic: a crowd of boys with IQ in the 110-120 range who do some superficial reading on a 1001 subjects and then come to a conclusion diagonally opposed to the direction that the eco-socialist coalition (those with IQ>120 + IQ

[@nelsonperez9546]

@@XMysticHerox no but closing all your nuclear power plants and then relying on guy with such small dick syndrome that he threatens to end the world in nuclear war every few months is stupid.

[@douglasphillips5870]

Where I live, there were four nuclear plants. One was being closed due to age, and they looked at the others while they were at it. Two more were quickly shut down because they were in such bad shape. Nuclear is based, but only if you can trust the corporations to maintain them.

[@peterpan4038]

True. But to be fair: it certainly didn't help to stop building more nuclear power plants. This sounds weird, but the issue is the lack of qualified folks to maintain and build modern nuclear infrastructure. Those that worked in the industry all went into other industries, thanks to the lack of jobs in nuclear. At this point it would take decades to change this, even if we decided to go back to building more plants. Everything involving nuclear is HIGHLY skilled labor, and people like that aren't in the habit of waiting for work to fall out of the sky. Most of them moved on.

[@hobosorcerer]

See, now THIS is how you get positive publicity over climate activism right here.

[@dorarandom7870]

Not everyone is protected by the great wizards. This protest was blesed by the presence of the great mud wizard. The rest of the people work with what they have.

[@lil_weasel219]

in the USA you would probs get shot for attempting something like this lol. creating controversy To raise awareness of your cause Is in general pretty useful.

[@hobosorcerer]

@@lil_weasel219 It depends on the controversy. Dressing up like a clown & smearing your feces on surfaces in public might draw attention, but not the good kind.

[@marocat4749]

@@lil_weasel219 Yeah but german police is way better trained.

[@footslave4asian]

You are clearly delusional.

[@ryangoldstrich7334]

good to know that the climate activists have powerful earthbenders on their side

[@pixelgoat7317]

The mud segment was comedy gold! Needs some silly Monty Python or Benny Hill music

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

That's just alternative ending of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

[@curvingfyre6810]

Fuck pyromancy, im an emulsiomancer now

[@broz666]

Those auto subtitles in the newsvideo are pure gold: Lützerath=Luchasaurus.

[@broz666]

Muddwizzards, Luchasauri. No wonder Power Metal is so big in Europe...

[@Soulraven2735]

@@Ass_of_Amalek Other way around.

[@blankspace6367]

‘Scientists discover new dinosaur who’s skull was reminiscent of a traditional Mexican wrestler’

[@saulgoodthey]

i can’t believe i didn’t know mudwizard was from the same protest greta thunburg was carried out of

[@AndroidCovenant]

The real Top G

[@capitalistraven]

So as a native of Indiana in the US, I've had to deal directly with the effects of mining here. Areas that have been stip mined the better part of a century ago are still mostly unusable "pit ponds" and much of the state you have to get special insurance in case a pit mine is under your house and you don't know it. Drag lines are impressive in a dystopian sort of way though.

[@andreymontag]

Americans be like: what do you mean they didn't beat up the detainee to half death? This is clearly staged

[@footslave4asian]

You are clearly delusional.

[@lizardaugust]

I love seeing the police stumble like babies, while the Chad wizard walks casually. 🤣🤣

[@sonic8005]

The sad thing is that the push against the cop stuck in the mud, as funny as that is, couldn't have happened in the US. By that point every officer would be shooting rubber bullets or firehoses in the dead of winter -__-

[@HeiressEllie]

Yeah if this was in America they'd be using the teargas or arson to flush people out of the homes.

[@captainroberts6318]

Or real bullets

[@alrecks619]

Top GRETA vs Bottom TATE

[@Treegona]

Top G(reta).

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Level 1 thug vs. level 99 boss climate activist

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Oh god, I just imagined it as a porn and my eyes are burning.

[@MrCaome]

One tiny correction. Nuclear energy is classified as "fossil free" not renewable. Done with my "ackchyually"

[@jomben]

mountaintop strip mining is hell so kudos to these people, im from kentucky and it literally ruined our mountains and specifically my town has been fucked completely especially our water system shout out to the mud wizard

[@Dendrocnide]

The mud wizard is my new role model

[@TypausZuendorf]

I live in Cologne which is next to the Coal mine, like If you have never seen that thing in person you won't believe how big this thing is. IN Egypt people build a few cute Pyramids, here in germany RWE build a few hundred reverse pyramids. You can see that hole from space.

[@thechief043]

Mud wizard casting an agility debuff had those cops reeling.

[@cottagehardcoreultrasw3998]

your story with the nuclear powerplants is wrong. germany was totally capable to close them and replace it with renewable energy. they just didnt do it. framing coal being areplacement in germany for nuclearbpower is just wrong.

[@hoboryan3455]

Those megaminers are literally the first Nier Auto boss.

[@Focke42]

The protest number were between 15000 and 35000 on Saturday alone, depending if you use the police as source or the activists. I'm not sure, why they talk about 6000. Also the main problem with energy security we have in Germany are demand peaks. And nobody can explain how coal energy plants could supply such short spikes.

[@peterpan4038]

It's the other way around. Big power plants like those run with coal can run 24/7, they provide a constant supply of power that can be counted on. In times of low demand wind and solar are kept offline while the big power plants keep running, and in times of high demand wind/solar can keep producing. Yes, the total production capacity in a good bit higher than the average demand, it has to be or peak demand times would cripple the grid. It's obviously quite a bit more complicated, but without LARGE storage capacities for renewable electricity the constant power supply of big power plants run by fossil fuel or nuclear are a much needed bedrock for the power grid. Natural gas for example sits somewhere in the middle, a gas power plant can be added within minutes if demand spikes are expected. Another important detail: Germany isn't exactly an island, electricity moves back and forth across european borders as well to stabilize national grids. And yes, there are better ways to achieve all of this. But nationwide power infrastructure isn't a thing that can be modernized in a short amount of time... it takes decades.

[@JackDespero]

Two things: Of course those police officers will be extra careful with Thunberg. She is famous and anything that happens to her will be covered by tens of journalist around the globe. That is how it is. The higher ups probably told them to comply with whatever photos she requested to keep her happy, instead of having the scandal of the German police abusing Greta. But second, some of the police officers might not even want to be there, or my agree with the protestors, but they have a job to do. Again, this is why ACAB (all cops are bad), because once they put the uniform, they stop being human and they become enforcers of the system. But underneath some of them still do not want to abuse her. I am not defending the cops, but some of them won't got the "extra step", and just do their job, which allows them to stand still for a photo, etc.

[@Gargsco]

Why can't the explanations just be that the police is not tasked with abusing or being cruel to anyone? They are doing their jobs better if they aren't unnecessarily cruel.

[@vfanon]

So happy to see the pigs rolling around in the mud like that. They look happy in their element :D

[@ararepotato1420]

That is an insult to pigs! Pigs are way smarter and cooler than cops!

[@ArchierounD]

But they're not american cops tho🤔

[@cctomcat321]

I was more impressed with Mud Jesus just tap dancing around everyone else who is sinking.

[@emizerri]

@@ArchierounD Pigs are pigs

[@lemon93]

@@ArchierounD trust me Germans call them swine as well

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Nuclear isn't renewable, Vaush. It wouldn't be 70% renewable if they kept nuclear.

[@davitdavid7165]

Maybe it doesn't fit the definition but it's still better than every fossil fuel

[@jackhacker5738]

Breeder reactors, nuclear waste reprocessing, RTGs... You don't just dig uranium and thorium out of the ground and then throw it away once it's done, it can be recycled almost indefinitely.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

@@jackhacker5738 It isn't recycled almost indefinitely. What's recycled is the amount that wasn't used up the first time. It's recovery, more than recycling.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

@@davitdavid7165 And renewable energy is better than nuclear.

[@davitdavid7165]

@alexc4924 not necessarily. Nuclear is the better as a big central power source and with how a lot of places are designed it might be the easier substitute to make. Not to mention how nuclear's non reliance on any weather can make it the only option in some areas and how renewables require some pretty nasty rare earth metals and batteries to truly work. And one thing you see forgetting is that the goal is to replace fossil fuels as much as possible and even if you were correct, I would argue that it is still a good stopgap or comprise.

[@wfb.subtraktor311]

Hi, Environmental Scientist from Germany here. The coal being mined has nothing to do with nuclear, and everything to do with RWE lobbyists having a choke-hold on our politicians. We could easily hit Paris goals with renewable energy IF the political will existed. However, this would make a lot of politicians and RWE execs sad cause they would have less money and therefore it doesn't happen. Nuclear energy requires an end storage solution - which we don't have - and would have to be economically competitive - which it is not. Renewables, even when factoring in storage and distribution infrastructure have total societal costs about one order of magnitude lower and Vaush should really stick to talking about social issues, which he is actually knowledgable about, rather than spreading misinformation on energy security topics in Germany, which he quite frankly knows jack sh*t about. Edit: Also, the expansion of the coal mine is actually not even for the German energy market, but rather for export to countries like Poland.

[@bobo2.2]

A grid with purely renewables would need absolutely ludicrous amount of energy storage. Nuclear plants would reduce the amount of storage needed and therefore the cost for the grid. Also I keep hearing that nuclear is expensive, but its levelised cost of electricity is pretty comparable to other sources. As for the waste, I would prefer to reprocess it, but burying it deep underground is also ok, clay or salt domes can act as a barrier for litteral geological times (in practice, ~100 000 years is enough to go back to the radioactivity of uranium ore). The volumeof waste is also extremely small, so I don't expect massive costs from that either.

[@axelotl86]

Hi, fellow Energy Management Ing. here. Thank you for this Post most here are and sadly also Vaush are showing of their dunning Kruger.

[@axelotl86]

@@Ass_of_Amalek two pairing shoes from a legal standpoint.

[@axelotl86]

@@Ass_of_Amalek oh fuck. My fingers and autocorrection got in the way. I meant that both mentioned points from you are from a legal standpoint not related. It’s sad that lignite still is a thing in this or any other country.

[@axelotl86]

@@Ass_of_Amalek you are talking about morally correct decisions. But sadly that not how this is working. I’m with you. But after so many years of our government “scholzing” their way through the “Energiewende”, I try to ignore my naive hopes of change.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

She was not detained. She was moved after being told not to stand too close to the open pit. They moved her, then let her go.

[@peterpan4038]

Yeah, and that's a "mission accomplished" for the cops. They had to clear the occupied place, that's all.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

@@peterpan4038 Yep, and no matter what they did there were cameras there... so they sucked it up and did their jobs to move the activist looking for a photo-op. And you know what? So what? It got attention on the cause she believes in so good for her. Who am I or anybody else to throw shade on a young person fighting the man? :)

[@marocat4749]

Its nice thy dont want to hurt protesters or kill them for no reason, and of coure cameras were here, but hey they give a shit, thats good. Also yeah, of course demonstrations are performative, thats the perpose, gain social media attention . Great job of her!

[@thechief043]

10:33 It's not about a particular village, it's about the principle of coal mining.

[@peterpan4038]

True, and i believe that was his point. He hates the fact that some media outlets focused on the "village", instead of the actual point of those protests.

[@marocat4749]

The village just exarpateds the point. Becae its a village its even clearer.

[@thechief043]

@@marocat4749 100%

[@thechief043]

@@peterpan4038 100%

[@MrHodoAstartes]

The same people who are protesting the Coal mine were protesting nuclear plants since the 80s. There's a funny picture of 3 environmentalist banners next to each other, directed against coal, nuclear power and wind energy (in proximity to settlements). This problem has been a long time in the making and politicians had hardly many options for short-term energy acquisition after Chernobyl and Fukushima had caused waves of public resistance against nuclear power. Also nuclear plants take decades to build while gas and coal plants are relatively quick.

[@wendylafolle]

That's right. In my hippy youth I was anti nuclear. The intolerably inadequate development of other green energies finally brought me to accept nuclear.

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

I live in Aachen, a city nearby Lützerath and my old flatmate is a protester there. Check out their protests, its really cool stuff.

[@Rakschas666]

How does your friend feel about the green party signing off on this while they were in government, a green chief of police heading the operation, the chief lobbyist of RWE being a green party member while the dregs of the partys affiliates keep ignoring the courts final and binding decisions, digging tunel systems and building unstable structures that keep endangering their lives and costing the taxpayer insane amounts in a time where the price of energy is becoming increasingly unaffordable for the economically disadvataged?

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

@@Rakschas666 They are pretty solidly anti-electoralist, we had major disagreements on that point, so I assume they have no love for the Greens.

[@marocat4749]

@@Rakschas666 Tnhats why it ven called activists against green party in some articles. Because they know and protest that too.

[@dr.velious5411]

Wait, does that mean that Greta possibly learning the Mud Wizard school of magic?

[@zom-b4237]

Jesus Christ, just imagine the cringey memes the hogs are gonna be making.

[@yellowfoxwontshutup420]

They have discovered a species of either mold or bacteria or something that can actually digest plastic. Also, you can make plastic out of hemp! There are options just not the infrastructure to implement that yet nor the desire from those in charge of this to actually do that

[@PlatinumAltaria]

The main issue with plastic is people dumping it into the oceans and rivers. So... we should probably stop that.

[@yellowfoxwontshutup420]

@@PlatinumAltaria absolutely agreed

[@aurtosebaelheim5942]

@@PlatinumAltaria Was hoping someone would say this. Plastic is great, it's a pretty permanent way of capturing carbon and making sure it doesn't get burned or otherwise released into the atmosphere. The issue is that we use it for all sorts of disposable things, so it ends up being burned, in the ocean or as random litter. That and we really need to stop using it for fishing nets. I don't know what the alternatives are there, maybe we just give up on eating fish until we can vat-grow fish meat.

[@Soulraven2735]

@@aurtosebaelheim5942 I know you're probably joking about that last part, but giving up fishing is impossible. The amount of people that depend on fishing for survival is immense.

[@che.rry_k1sses]

lol i was just learning abt surface mining in my apes class. super insane how horrible it is for the environment

[@thekingoffailure9967]

Monkey School Monkey School

[@flrnGM]

99% of the nuclear fallout from Fukushima went down over the Pacific. To then interpret that as "nuclear accidents arn't a big deal UwU" is braindead.

[@QT5656]

Would the Pacific even notice given the near constant input of other pollution from factories and cruise ships?

[@flrnGM]

@@QT5656 My point was that Japan and its neighbours dodged a bullet, that could have destroyed the livelyhoods of tens of millions and triggered a global economic crises of unprecedented proportions.

[@buyartpop7466]

1:52 "I don't speak German" but i can if u like AUGH !!!

[@50043211]

The best thing about this is that the coal in Germany is among the worst kind of coal you have with a very high sulphur content which suxs so much that is was a concern for the Imperial Navy back then in WW1.

[@mumpizgaming5039]

The whole thing has something to do with Germanys biggest Provider of Enegery through coal, which is the mentioned RWE, they had their hands in the decline of Germanys renewable Energy Industry aswell. They are one of the most powerfull companies in Germany and control alot of the politics here. Thats also the reason why they could easily expropriate people in those villages since they began to work 1898... Capitalism and corruption go hand in hand here

[@wendylafolle]

Makes sense.

[@marocat4749]

Aside that coal is obviously not renewable. That makes sense :(

[@healgoth]

My toxic trait? Thinking that walking through that mud is a skill issue I would have no problem with

[@HeiressEllie]

It probably had to do with the weight of the equipment the police have on.

[@sarah8383]

The only point where he is wrong is that Germany wouldn't be energy independent using nuclear power, we would have to import that, too.

[@victoriakonrad9724]

German here. Germany is mainly trying to get away from nuclear power plants because we can not dispose of nuclear waste ourselves. We don't have deserts to bury it in or anything like that. Germany smol.

[@rougenarwhal8378]

mfw destroying the entire culture and all the homes in a village for some dinosaur juice

[@Alias_Anybody]

Considering this thing never went over 105 inhabitants and there was nothing of architectural significance, that wasn't really the point here.

[@Manu-qf8bs]

@@Alias_Anybody in the past though it did. Some years ago they demolished a century old cathedral for coal

[@marocat4749]

Arent most of it old plants?

[@marocat4749]

@@Alias_Anybody Its a good way to gt attention of the pretty nonsensical corrupt way an entgy concern tries to bs stuff in there, who want that coal, its a good point to gain attention that maybe stop mining coal, and say no to that energy concern

[@worsethanyouthink]

Oh yeah and that guy who died as a result of radiation at Fukushima died 7 years after the disaster, Germany had shut down its reactor years before hand.

[@northernnaysayer1240]

If anyone is wondering why European villages are built atop coal seams the answer is pretty easy. Would you live somewhere where you need to grow, maintain then harvest trees for heat, or literally pick up dirty black magic fire rocks and burn them? Obviously without hindsight and knowing what coal does, everyone is going to choose the magic rocks. Source: I live atop a coal mine in the UK, there is shale next to my house that is low quality but does burn, there's mines hundreds of years old under my house, my landlord had a borehole drilled for water and it hit a mine... Let me tell you, that caused alot of shit to spray everywhere for days....

[@michaelwilliams7292]

Huh thanks for the info friend

[@marocat4749]

I mean it makes sense villages grow around , well places that have work, coal mines were reliable sources of work.

[@TyranusRex721]

The mud wizard casted Mold Earth and Earthen Grasp and you cannot convince me otherwise.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

Lütherath is more a hamlet than a village, but doesn't really matter, not a single person should be forced to move because of stupid coal mining.

[@marocat4749]

Doesnt really matter if its really good optic thou to gain attention that coalmining is counter every renewabl energy policy, Nuclear is controverse, but coal, wtf.

[@INF1NIT3D00M]

mud wizard really be out here like "WOLOLO!" "WOLOLO!" tryna convert the cops

[@davitdavid7165]

I always thought Cole and onua were cringe, but the mud wizard is changing my mind

[@Wimikk]

Reading the name Onua was a deep cut for a Sunday morning holy shit

[@theoretisch4429]

The thing is experts said that the coal isn't needed at all. That's the said thing.

[@ToastyMcGrath]

Where are all the right-wing "free speech warriors" speaking out against her arrest for peacefully protesting?

[@LilPinkFuzzyMonster]

Giga Chad energy, fucking awesome.

[@dragunov815]

What a nightmare.

[@munkeefinkelbeen5395]

There were a few strip mines on/around the Navajo Reservation. Most have been shut down, if not all in the past few years.

[@connortobin3775]

I've seen that excavator before. First death I ever had in Destiny 2 was by its metal hand

[@boredofcorn3151]

Here I was thinking we were getting the Vowsh Report

[@Cheyruz]

Calling nuclear energy renewable is kinda misleading?

[@Dave102693]

Turning a town into a ghost town because fossil fuels is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

[@dumbvids9161]

Imagine waking up one day and that is the day you and your police force mates get rolled by an earthbender

[@watamatafoyu]

I'd rather be arrested for protesting climate change than for sex trafficking.

[@FlipjevanTiel]

At 19 minutes in, Vaush is talking about plastic being non-negotiable, referencing to oil. Plastic can be made from other raw resources than oil. First of all, from previously used plastic.

[@georgemccartney8906]

What exactly is the point in harvesting energy when there's no land to give energy too? Also it's barely a net gain anyway, those bucket wheel excavators take monstrous amounts of energy to operate

[@panchoarmariorodriguez6975]

So sad the Matrix got her.

[@tonechild5929]

When you're playing a city builder game and then half way you realize you built on top of a valueable resource.

[@theamazingincrediblespider9689]

I had no idea this was the Mud Wizard thing!

[@rockfire1669]

I really like how people say places like Yosemite are beautiful and they want to visit it. But at the same time want to prevent more places like Yosemite from being preserved.

[@KraftBrotHD]

It's bizarre to me how common it has been for Americans to react to these protests and the violence with 'well that's what you get for opposing nuclear'. First of all, this is for the most part a new generation of protesters. The anti-nuclear movement was made up of boomers and gen x, this is millennials and zoomers. Secondly, while I agree that prematurely closing nuclear plants before getting rid of coal was a strategic mistake, our plants are all old and close to the end of their lifespan anyways and when the question is building new nuclear plants or wind and solar, the latter option wins out both economically and environmentally. That our expansion of wind and solar has stalled in the last decade is not the fault of anti-nuclear activists but of beaurocracy and the CDU. Lastly, the debate around nuclear is wholly irrelevant when it comes to the coal under luetzerath because it is not needed to fulfill our energy demands. Not mining it doesn't mean poor people are going to freeze next winter, it means RWE loses out on their profits.

[@Rakschas666]

Sorry but nuclear power serves a very different purpose that can not be fullfilled by green renewables, no matter how much and how many you build. That much is obvious to everyone and remains the case even if the majority of energy produced comes from green renewables. Renewables are efficient and sustainable but unreliable. Id like to be more precise but english is a second language to me. The alternative to nuclear power is gas and while that seemed like a feasible option at the time, it turns out that energy dependency on a large aggressive military power lead by a quasi fascist isnt as reliable as we were promissed...

[@swanpride]

@@Rakschas666 Tell that Costa Rica....

[@Rakschas666]

@@swanprideI dont mean no disrespect to Costa Rica but I wouldnt say that the two countries are so much as remotely comparable, especially in terms of geography, economy, infrastructure and industry. Afaik Costa Rica has a population of under 5 Million and no energy dependend industry worthy of note. Add to that the geographical differences. Ignore for a moment that your example is assinine, not just for the aforementioned reasons but also because not every country has access to (economically viable) geothermal energy (like Costa Rica due to volcanic activity). Under present conditions it is not a viable option. People are already going apeshit about some tiny village being razed and some tiny ass forest being cut down, what do you think the mudwizard would think if instead of razing a single village, we would raze hundreds to flood the area to create the necessary volume for a hydroelectric facility (if geographically and structurally that would even be possible, sustainable and economically viable which is unlikely)? Given Germanys options, the investment in classic renewables in conjunction with creating new artificial fuels and hydrogen and using/repurposing existing infrastructure seems the realistic approach. It's not optimal, its not zero emission, but it's a way. Perhaps you think otherwise, but can you can elaborate on how that works for Costa Rica?

[@swanpride]

@@Rakschas666 Costa Rica uses mostly water power and it is not like Germany is lacking water of all things. But there are other options, too. There is for example a study how much energy we could produce just by atting solarpanels to the noise protection walls at the Autobahn. (Speaking of Water power, Great Britain could also cover a lot of its own energy if they were using the tides to produce it instead of nuclear power).

[@Rakschas666]

​@@swanpride Afaik the hydroelectric potential of large installations of Germany is considered to be already exploited. Germany doesnt have that much elevation overall to generate that much more power from hydro. But, and theres is A HUGE BUT, the taxation on hydroelectricity is complete backasswards. Theres so much economic potential in elevation storage facilities that arent presently operating or being expanded because, at least thats the complaints Ive heard, power is being taxed once for pumping water upwards and then again for generating power.

[@Keegbot]

“Final Solution to the Energy Crisis” jesus fucking christttt

[@jesterdays]

Oh, man this is the same protest from the mud wizard video. Incredible.

[@QuiteDan]

I made a Bagger 288 transformer one time (it was a decepticon, of course)

[@zagreus5773]

An American talking down on Germany for their energy policy will never not be funny to me. You guys produce more CO2 than anyone on earth, yet Vaush somehow thinks he can lecture others on how to reduce CO2. What matters is expansion of renewables, which is hindered by nuclear energy as the slow dynamics of nuclear cannot compensate for the ups and downs of renewables. How is nuclear going for France right now I wonder? How much renewables are they building? Oh, almost none? And their nuclear power is breaking all the time, so Germany is supplying them with energy? I guess we can be luck that Germany didn't take the nuclear route, else Europe would be in deep trouble right now.

[@codenamexeno6595]

19:35 I thought he said ligmite and I was about to lose it

[@jeremysistrunk3742]

I see myself going this way.

[@GeoStreber]

Regarding the nuclear plants: The ones they're closing now reached their design service life of 35 years of age, and building new ones seems to no longer be viable as the wholesale electricity prices dropped significantly due to renewables.

[@kianag6692]

Vaush is talking a lot of dumb shiat, when it comes to nuclear power... So... No chance to discuss anything here.

[@falconeshield]

They can't just....update the old ones?

[@TurbhoeHDRemix]

@@falconeshield No. Nuclear Energy plants have a service life where the core reactor has to be decommissioned.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@falconeshield At some point you more of less have to rebuild most of it from the ground up. Like, you have the space and maybe some building material, but no, no matter if it was actually run or was simply standing around, plants from the 70s can't just restart, unless you really don't give a damn about anyone's safety. Oh, and a complete renovation needs lots of cash and public support. Not that easy.

[@esprit101]

The lead times for building new ones are measured in decades over here and there is simply no political will to build new plants. In a perfect world, we'd have continously invested into nuclear energy over the past 50 years and kept up with the tech. But in reality most reactors were built in the 70s and maintained but that's it.

[@germanvisitor2]

Vaush going on an enlightened centrist rant.

[@rangehottv7254]

The irony is that the same people protesting now were protesting to close npps back then

[@Delicious_Oreoz]

In America the swat wouldve gotten frustrated and just shot them for not complying and causing fear.

[@operatoremma4843]

Holy shit that machine is literally a Marx unit from NieR Automata XD

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

My favorite example on the car industries grip on everything: ~10 people die from car related accidents EVERY day. And that's not the worldwide number. That's Germany alone! Yet you hardly year any of that on TV. Because its only covered on the same day, maybe the day after on LOCAL news. Meanwhile if just one person dies in a train related accident it's on international news for weeks. Same applies to coal and nuclear. Coal causalities are just expected business as usual.

[@kattkatt744]

Vaush saying nothing happend after Fukushima made made me so angry I almost cried. 160000 people where displaced because of the radiation. Large areas of agricultural land became unusable. Large efforts where put into removing vast amounts of top soil and plant materials to lessen the background ratiation and hopefully making it possible to rehabilitate the land faster than it is going for Chernobyl. There is an exclusion zone around Fukushima just as there is around Chernobyl and it is run largely by an workforce where you need to be over a set age to work because they want people to have had a life before the risk associated with the work environment. But, yeah, fucking nothing happend.....

[@PlatinumAltaria]

People keep ignoring the fact that literally all of Japan is an uninhabitable nuclear wasteland like Fallout: New Vegas. Every single Japanese person died and were replaced with holograms by the CIA. (for the record, I'm assuming this is satire, people were displaced by the giant tsunami)

[@nikotinsaure2481]

Thank you. I was going to rant, too, but couldn't have expressed it better than you.

[@TheNeoLoneWolf]

What do you mean? Thats not how you detain someone you need at least one cop per limb, and a tazer to the heart.

[@cheako91155]

Just guessing that perhaps the plants were in disrepair or lacking safety infrastructure and it's just cheaper to add to wind like they did.

[@shocknawe]

5:58 - Thought they were used for Ghost Riding.

[@monohe4d380]

It’s also a thing of principle for us germans. Our chancellor promised nobody would lose their home to this shit anymore.

[@overlookers]

I'm gonna be that guy and point out that Centralia, PA didn't inspire Silent Hill 1 but rather inspired the art design for the 2006 film. Elements like a residual coal fire and the raining of ash are _exclusive_ to the 2006 film. Silent Hill proper is more a pastiche of Stephen King's Tarker's Mill, MA (The Mist) and Dean Koontz' Snowfield, CA (Phantoms) with the town situated in northern Maine like King's Ludlow (Pet Sematary)

[@aok2075]

The Pizza box saga continues

[@Bobylein1337]

The fight against nuclear power is decades older than against coal, the conservatives closing nuclear plants after fukushima was partly done, because they feared people would vote for the greens otherwise, because many people here remember the protests against nuclera power when they grew up. I've got older pretty left wing family members but don't ever try to discuss with them about nuclear power, it's like telling your racist uncle that he shouldn't be an racist ass.

[@jkattack2640]

This just makes me want to scream ACAB over and over