Hasselblad X1D(II) + XCD 80 f/1.9 vs Fuji GFX 100s + GF 80 f/1.7

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mathphotographer

mathphotographer

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@MarcS4R
@MarcS4R 3 жыл бұрын
imo it would be a better comparison with adjusted White Balance on the Fuji, ideally set the White balance on both with the color checker.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the WB difference between the two, and the exposure also seems different which doesn’t help the comparison.
@ChrisM-yq2pq
@ChrisM-yq2pq 8 ай бұрын
Then you are saying wb is best in hasselblad
@teds5369
@teds5369 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Hasselblad combo for a year and recently switched to the Fuji combo and I can only say that they are not playing in the same league. The Fuji is superior in EVERYTHING except visual design of camera and menu UI. I mean everything. Also like others i question the WB on the Fuji in this test, looks very strange. Now don't get me wrong, the XCD II is a beautiful camera that can produce amazing results but it is many times a very, very frustrating experience - I do not think I have missed more great shots in my life combined than what I did in my year with the Hassy. AF is terrible, handling is slow etc. Whereas with the Fuji it just work, Everytime.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
The Fuji is the better allround package. Hasselblad has the "Hasselblad look" which many people including myself love. But yes, for professional jobs as a photographer the Fuji gives you more value based on more manual controls, quicker autofocus, more lenses with lower price tag and more features in the camera system. But: I love them both :)
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer yes there is al “ Fuji look” that everybody loves
@PROgaming-fm6yu
@PROgaming-fm6yu 3 жыл бұрын
until you want to shoot with strobes above 125th of a second
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
@@PROgaming-fm6yu use HSS. Fashion photographrrs have been shooting with Canon and Nikon for 93399393 years.
@PROgaming-fm6yu
@PROgaming-fm6yu 3 жыл бұрын
@@GKhanKutar I knew you were going to come back with that. HSS is shit!
@aroach337
@aroach337 3 жыл бұрын
Color is so different. Would be interested in the WB settings. Are they the same? Just to add to your work, I would custom WB from a color checker. Thanks for all your effort here.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - agree.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer could you address the WB discrepancy? This isn’t very insightful otherwise.
@nelsonclub7722
@nelsonclub7722 3 жыл бұрын
On Hass you can dial in WB manually, also has a colour checker built in - I had GFX50s before X1 series - colours are far more natural on Hass - by a long way too - but some shooters don't want this they want a stylistic' look that isn't necessarily achieved in post - even though it can be - many presets available for instance by Fuji fans - and not just Fujifilm sims either - this is where Fuji wins - also Fuji is a much more complex machine in some respects - a big turn off for me - although this iteration and with bigger MPX capability seems to address those issues - I could not get on with the fiddly tilty viewfinder either - however the biggest win for me is tethering with Phocus - it is the dogs wotsits compared to Fuji as I can control so much more and have the files ready for anything in an instant. However price points are a big consideration making rethink the whole shebang - double the MPX for less than half the price once we start talking lenses. If I was still shooting weddings I would consider buying two and a bunch of lenses in a heartbeat especially now they have got Nisi flashguns under a brand licensing agreement????????
@MarcAdesso
@MarcAdesso 3 жыл бұрын
I have gotten to shoot with these camera side by side (as well as the original GFX 100), and wanted the Fujis to be better, because of the superior autofocus and IBIS. When I shot the Fujis first, it was a 'wow, what great images' moment. However, when you then look at the Hassy files (once you delete the missed shots from no IBIS because you were brave and took it off the tripod), it's a 'holy buckets, these are really, really special images!' I don't think any amount of color checking would show this after KZbin's compression takes over, but I can say from personal experience with my own eyes that (unfortunately for one's pocket book and ability to shoot without a tripod) the Hassy produces far superior, much more special images right out of camera. In other words, I hope Hassy makes a 100mp version of the X1D with IBIS and hybrid AF very, very soon!
@tor2919
@tor2919 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is what I see as well. The Hasselblad has consistently nice looking images. Also evident in this video review. The Fuji white balance just seems off, but it’s not just white balance, the colours just aren’t as good.
@Andrew-wb7wn
@Andrew-wb7wn 2 жыл бұрын
Your wish has come true, mostly at least for now :D
@MarcAdesso
@MarcAdesso 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-wb7wn Yes indeed- I have the X2D in my hands now!
@chuckm482
@chuckm482 2 жыл бұрын
One you deleted the missed shots (you mean the bad ones) from the Hasselblad? Talk about giving that one a free pass ... "missed shots"! ??? You have to be "brave" to take it off the tri-pod? oookkk
@Xingqiwu387
@Xingqiwu387 Жыл бұрын
I agree completely, Marc, and that is my impression as well. I also think that the 16-bit color depth on the Hassy vs the 14-bit on the Fuji might have something to do with it.
@vitorguimaraes6443
@vitorguimaraes6443 3 жыл бұрын
It is well known that automatic white balance works best at Hasselblad, the test should have been done with white balance at the same temperature, the wrong white balance will change everything else
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 2 жыл бұрын
very useful. I wanted to like the Fuji, as it beats technically the Hasselblad in all ways BUT when I see the picture quality, I love the Hasselblad way more
@chuckm482
@chuckm482 2 жыл бұрын
I actually saw more detail out of the GFX100S.
@Xingqiwu387
@Xingqiwu387 Жыл бұрын
Same here, Armin. To me there's simply no comparison: the images out of the HB are just stunning and the color gamut is incredible.
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video and your effort! As a GFX100 user , I think they are both very good cameras and lenses. I love how Hasselblad looks sexy and Fuji with its technology. I wish you can open Fuji files on Capture 1 and Hasselblad file with Phocus. For the Fuji file , I guess white balance is not correct and film simulation was not set to Astia , Classic Chrome , Pro Negative or Classic Negative. With Capture One you can set it to basic profile too. Hasselblad should make new X1D body with 100 megapixel sensor as soon as possible to compete with Fuji cameras. Lastly ; As we know these are portrait lenses , maybe we can see “part 2 video” shooting portrait photography outside with the lenses and we can also discuss dynamic range for the portrait photography with the lenses. Thank you again.
@reboundk1ng
@reboundk1ng 3 жыл бұрын
And how much would a 100mp hassy would cost? 😆😆😆
@anthonyrock5039
@anthonyrock5039 2 жыл бұрын
@@reboundk1ng probably 10-$20,000
@anthonyrock5039
@anthonyrock5039 2 жыл бұрын
The XCD 80 1.9 and GF 80 are a great parallel but I am really curious as what the match the the GF 110 would be on the XCD side as I am looking for that replacement for the X2D.
@propylaeen
@propylaeen 2 жыл бұрын
Hasselblad, color, contrast and the impression of texture is quite better… Fuji comes with more quiet and buttery bokeh to my taste but would prefer the Hasselblad what in the end is nothing more than just a decision based on personal taste. Great Video keep up the fabulous work. Thank you for sharing.
@sethcashman1011
@sethcashman1011 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison which, in my opinion, really needed to be made. Subscribed.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
How is it fantastic with the differences in WB, exposure? I appreciate OP’s effort, but It’s impossible to know how these two stack up from this video.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Not scientific but hopefully nevertheless insightful.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for taking the time to compare these two. It would be helpful to know the WB setting of each camera. It’s very apparent by looking at the subject as well as OOF areas that the Fuji is warmer than the Hasselblad, and it makes a very big difference on perception here. Also, you may be seeing a difference in sharpness due to the intended use of the GF 80/1.7, which is portraiture. It is know it was not built to be the sharpest of the bunch (see the 110 or 250 for that).
@nelsonclub7722
@nelsonclub7722 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it is sharper - just not wide open - lenses are built for their mid aperture performance - this one rocks
@robertbartelmes7623
@robertbartelmes7623 3 жыл бұрын
... the Hasselblad XCD 80 f1.9 lens costs $4895 which is over twice as much as the Fujifilm GF 80 f/1.7 lens which costs $2299 ...
@jakobjohannsson1045
@jakobjohannsson1045 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. Just confirms that I went for the much better system - Hasselblad! No, I really don't like the slow AF but the results do more than make up for it! Just one friendly criticism. I think it's enough to say the full name of the cameras and lenses just in the beginning of the video 🥰
@v_stands_for_value124
@v_stands_for_value124 3 жыл бұрын
I'd buy the Fujifilm all day
@deiviuds
@deiviuds 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still looking forward an in-depth video about colors, dynamic range and resolution of the Fuji 100s sensor against the XD50II, to see if we are trading just resolution for colors, or if there is more!
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
One distinction factor, not on quality of camera or lenses, but important for many people, is that the Hasselblad system is much more expensive on the lens side. If you compare lenses in both systems like for like, the XCDs are typically significantly more expensive than the GFs. For lots of photographers clearly an argument given that both systems are excellent in quality besides differences in nuances here and there.
@williamsingman1489
@williamsingman1489 3 жыл бұрын
Hasselblad has Fuji beat hands down on sharpness, contrast, clarity of color and even bokeh. I shoot Leica so my eyes are probably a little more discerning (spoiled) as it relates to image quality expectations.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve shot both cameras, but the 110/2 on the Fuji and the only difference I could find were the color reproduction, which is common across cameras. I chose Fuji over Hassy. The WB in this comparison is wildly different which makes the comparison not helpful.
@stefanoallari2154
@stefanoallari2154 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt you could say anything about sharpness when Hasselblad images in the video are zoomed in 100% while Fuji images are zoomed in 66.7%. For a precise comparison, the Hasselblad files should have been upsampled, or maybe the Fuji downsampled.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Agree from a technical point of view but not from a practical point of view. These images are super close from a sharpness perspective and the crop-in whether 100% or 66.7% is just fine. From down- or up-sampling you will not gain materially more insight. No matter how much you crop in, images from both cameras will be sharper than anything you have seen before :)
@carlosnunes5717
@carlosnunes5717 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer maybe just me, but the sharpness on the Hasselblad looks much better than the Fuji, not to mention the color rendition that looks pretty bad on the Fuji, but that´s not conclusive because you used auto WB with artificial light. You do a great job with all the calculations and explaining but sometimes don`t seem to be critical enough about the performance. Don`t misunderstand me, I love your work, but sometimes seems that you hesitate on critisizing the equipment. I believe viewers would also apreciate your impressions on using the material and about the experience, in comparative terms.
@thomassalzmann2999
@thomassalzmann2999 3 жыл бұрын
Oops, despite the double sensor resolution of the Fuji sensor, the Hasselblad retains the better resolution and level of detail. Still, I think justified for the price of the Fuji. Nice video.
@petergabriel3361
@petergabriel3361 10 ай бұрын
is there a setting in WB or film simulation in the fuji to get a similar 3D-effect ( in German: plastisch?) as in the Hasselblad? thanks to all
@williaminbody205
@williaminbody205 3 жыл бұрын
I think the lens on the Hasselblad is better and when combined with a leaf shutter exposing the sensor from center out creates superior images. Larger sensors just have issues being exposed by Focal plane shutters, leaf shutters are clearly a better way to expose a large sensor and it showed on every shot.
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
Leaf shutter has no relation with that and Hasselblad lens is not better. You can not clearly understand which one is better with this video. They are different lenses. Fuji has different character with its lens design. They did not focus to create crazy sharp at wide open aperture with this lens. They focused on creating character and better bokeh.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
Your bit about leaf vs focal plane shutter is simply not true.
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
GKhan hit the nail on the head. The Fuji 80/1.7 with its SA is clearly intended to create “character” within images, especially in the out of focus areas. It’s not my cup of tea, but I know it suits many others.
@RS-Amsterdam
@RS-Amsterdam 3 жыл бұрын
The image of the Fuji is a bit more saturated than the image of the Hassy. Which one is the closest to reality ??
@Paul-jb6rk
@Paul-jb6rk 3 жыл бұрын
Hassy is much more realistic.
@norberttolle6646
@norberttolle6646 3 жыл бұрын
why don't you show a comparison at 100%? Or 200% X1Dll to 100% GFX? By the way, X1Dll renders sharper in Phocus than in Lightroom.
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
Fuji files are much better with Capture 1 too
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 3 жыл бұрын
Capture one just over sharpens and over saturates all camera brands raws. When a use my Nikons I have to turn down capture one default settings to have a natural rendering.
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 3 жыл бұрын
No I never noticed sharper results in Phocus
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
@@jean-claudemuller3199 I don’t agree. Capture One has the best color and sharpness for Fujifilm cameras.
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 3 жыл бұрын
As a reviewer said on another channel, the GFX100 is way sharper when the X1D is showed on screen at 400% crop 😂😂😂
@roxikoko3744
@roxikoko3744 2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but when testing for corner sharpness shouldn't you be focusing on a subject in the centre of the frame? i.e. a brick wall etc
@salmonefotografia77
@salmonefotografia77 3 жыл бұрын
For me, I love my Hasselblad. I don't need to catch everything what I see. Now Almost companies make a faster camera, but I need a slower speed camera, so I can have time to think. However, Hasselblad is that a camera which is simple and very easy to use. Such as my cell phone. I would like to control my camera, not a camera controls me!!!
@johnirby493
@johnirby493 2 жыл бұрын
What does " might still, for some people, be a better choice", mean?
@chrisgibbsphoto
@chrisgibbsphoto 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thanks. One thing though, the Hasselblad was notably sharper on all your corner tests, look at the small white pearl colored inset in the self timer lever on the M5, then look to the small damage defects on those body screws, it's very noticeable, once you see it. Agree with you analysis, the FUJI would make for an all around standalone system, the Hasselblad is more "specialized."
@Bayonet1809
@Bayonet1809 3 жыл бұрын
Some comments on your testing methodology, if you are interested. Why use spot metering? If you are comparing dynamic range rather than metering accuracy you should use ETTR with verification from RawDigger. For best focusing you should be using the built-in focus shift features of both cameras at the finest step size and later select the most in-focus on a monitor rather than using focus peaking. The differences in colour could also be due to the variation in Adobe's implementation of colour profiling in Lightroom/ACR, so from your test it is impossible to tell whether any differences in colour are as a result of Fuji or Hasselblad's colour science (which really only applies to their own raw processing engines). You should also be resizing the Fuji's images to the pixel dimensions of the Hasselblad to ensure you are comparing at the same magnification. A different subject could also be better for demonstrating fine detail reproduction. If you are confident that Hasselblad images have a different (better?) look then could you please demonstrate this in a controlled comparison in the future please?
@antonomaseapophasis5142
@antonomaseapophasis5142 3 жыл бұрын
I had prepared to buy the GFX 100S, and consulted this video to clarify my understanding of this purchase. This video surprised me in the last part. Now, after looking at other videos you have made about the Hasselblad X1D (II) sensor, I have changed my mind. The qualities you examined in the Hasselblad sensor are the ones which pertain more exactly to the sort of images I am trying to take. Will Hasselblad be moving up to 100 MPX in the near future? Evidently, I find that your channel has a very clear technical presentation, but I appreciate that you present indefinable esthetic reactions based on that technical precision.
@lnz971
@lnz971 2 жыл бұрын
they just did!
@gentleman0678
@gentleman0678 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t thank you enough, for all your hard work.
@mjscpr
@mjscpr 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, nice to comment in this way.
@derrickdu
@derrickdu 3 жыл бұрын
So which camera would you keep if you could only have one?
@KruiserIV
@KruiserIV 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve shot both and I went with the Fuji. It produces great images and it’s much, much, much less frustrating to use than the X1D ii. The hassy has a fantastic menu, but Fuji’s is very good, and in the end I chose the camera that gave me the best results, and that was the Fuji.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
I love them both, period. Having said that, for getting a job done for a client, the Fuji will make life easier. You will miss the typical Hasselblad look but your client most likely will not know about the Hasselblad look and the Fuji delivers superb images. So I think for making money with photography, I would go for the Fuji but then regret forever to no longer have the Hasselblad for myself :)
@derrickdu
@derrickdu 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer That is a good point. Thanks
@sundarAKintelart
@sundarAKintelart 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice.. I suggest someone comes up with a "Hasselblad look" recipe for gfx 100.. I am sure it can be done. I did it with my X H1 to some success. First with white balance tweeks, then with highlight/shadow tweek and sharpness etc. I got fairly pleasing results. Kudos.
@MarcAdesso
@MarcAdesso 2 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing the recipe you used on your XH1!
@intennia
@intennia 3 жыл бұрын
Both cameras are obviously shot in different WB. Auto WB setting may not work well in this kind of comparisons. I saw Fuji with more 3D looks image due to better micro contrast. Images from X1Dii are more flat. More over, 50% zoom images from GFX100s doesn’t tell its full quality and capability. X1Dii is amazing camera but hands down when comparing its price and features.
@LucyS565
@LucyS565 3 жыл бұрын
Superb comparison! Thank you for your expertise!
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lucy. Hope all is well.
@ALWH1314
@ALWH1314 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate IBIS, OSS, phase detect eye focus, etc. but I don’t like the fast turn around of new model that makes me pay more attention on acquiring new gears than shooting pictures. So I switched from Sony and Fujifilm to Hasselblad & Leica and now enjoy more photography than gears. I gave up dozens of lenses and narrowed down to three including this 80mm f1.9 and I know they will last for my life time.
@TL-vt8uk
@TL-vt8uk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the review. You mention Hasselblad sensors, I thought they were using Sony made sensors, but are applying their own colour science in the processor. Is that what you meant? Thanks!
@jpdj2715
@jpdj2715 3 жыл бұрын
Please note that your Sony is the Semiconductor company and this is totally separate from the stills camera company (former Konica-Minolta). Semiconductor has worked with Nikon a long time, using Nikon machines to make their VLSI components and learnt a lot from that. It has "Chinese Walls" between them and the camera company. Semiconductor will loose clients because in publicity the relation is used to give the camera company a competitive advantage - by fooled naive people and shrewd marketers. The sensor is a rather dumb and rather passive component. It is colorblind and analog. The innovation it received in recent years was an analog-to-digital (AD) circuit tied to the sensor. This is where your 12, 14 or 16 bits gradation are. Semiconductor advertises their sensors as 16 bits - baloney - and in small print footnote state that 14 are photographically meaningful. That's plain 14. If you want 16, you either buy an older generation sensor and route its Voltage measurements through your own discrete AD, or take a 14 newer and remap the 14 tot 16 bits. A very important part of a camera's color treatment is the filter overlay over the sensor. This is from the camera manufacturer, not Semiconductor. If you understand loudspeaker crossover filters, it compares to crossover frequency and filter decay as dB/octave. There's a lot of camera manufacturer wisdom in there. This also applies to the second filter that I call the fuzzy filter. It disperses light from the lens traveling to one photosite to surrounding photosites. This to facilitate "raw processing". That's an old trick already applied by engineers developing scanning tunneling electron microscopes in the 70s. It makes mathematically repeatable and precise 'wild-assed guesses' much easier. In our case the sensor comes up with one color per photosite and "raw processing" turns that into RGB pixels. In this guesswork, noise and Moiré are created. Here, gradation us lost. And here you end up with at best 27 bits color space because developers of raw processing algorithms, like DxO, cannot do better. Note that high res cameras do away with the fuzzy filter as they have enough detail to not need them. But this renders old raw processing algorithms suboptimal. A problem since the Nikon D800E. Also note that human perception of resolution or sharpness relates directly to linear units. Two times linear increase from 24MP (6,000*4,000 photosites) implies 12,000*8,000=96MP. MP are an area number and meaningful to file size and processing effort, not human perception. Comparing cameras basically is comparing the raw processing's adaptation to your specific camera, specific firmware version and specific lens. When Lightroom gave me noise in ISO=100 landscape shots taken in the middle of a sunny summer day, Nikon SW did not. And with an F mount lens on the 7, LR also didn't. And C1 supported nothing. And DxO was great but had the worst preview and asset process. So when you look at RGB pixels on your monitor, that's software and low-level profiles, primarily. A guy who lived in a big white mansion for a couple years might have called it "fake". A focal plane shutter has time parallax, a leaf shutter has not, but in both cases, the sensor has time parallax and it always (almost) generates a raw file with monochrome photosite data. We need two paradigm shifts. Zero time parallax and RGB sensor's - the latter makes fuzzy filters and raw processing superfluous.
@ThreeBooleans
@ThreeBooleans 3 жыл бұрын
Were these shot at raw or jpeg?
@zachshult
@zachshult 3 жыл бұрын
Great work as always, keep it up 👍
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zach, appreciated.
@vladimir.smirnov
@vladimir.smirnov 3 жыл бұрын
Where have you found an M5? I've tried several times to find one in a working order (without separation problems and with working lighmeter) and failed.
@ChrisM-yq2pq
@ChrisM-yq2pq 8 ай бұрын
Buy one and fix it
@vladimir.smirnov
@vladimir.smirnov 8 ай бұрын
@@ChrisM-yq2pq if that would be that easy as you say - I wouldn't be asking that question. M5 is a tricky camera, because lightmeter is CdS one, they are relatively hard to find, they are hard to calibrate, they are hard to replace. Basically if your lightmeter is dead it might take years to track down suitable replacement and years of experience and special equipment to actually replace it (or finding one of the rare specialists who have that). Rangefinder separation is somewhat easy to fix as it is the same issue that plagues all old Leicas, but rangefinder is unique there, so you would need to actually disassemble everything, clean, glue back together, recalibrate. Something that is relatively easy to do (a lot of leica repair specialists do that, it is just costly). Anyway, I solved the question and soon after found actually two M5s in close-to-perfect conditions (one in Switzerland, another in Austria). They pop up every now and then, it is just very hard to get hands on one, but if you are patient enough it might pop up.
@reboundk1ng
@reboundk1ng 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone get a hasselblad over a gfx100s?? It's faster, way cheaper, and IBIS
@robertelmouchi5018
@robertelmouchi5018 3 жыл бұрын
Why not photograph a subject that allows you to evaluate center and corner sharpness in one image, like one page of a newspaper?
@chandreo
@chandreo 3 жыл бұрын
The X1D has more 3D rendering than the Fuji at all of your tests, even though it has half the MB, must be the test or the lenses, I'll go for the X1D!
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
The Hasselblad sensor is gorgious, yes!
@vladimirboevvisuals8032
@vladimirboevvisuals8032 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for you work! I'm waiting your review Cambo Actus GFX camera :)
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@rolandrick
@rolandrick Жыл бұрын
Exactly the comparison others don’t, really appreciate your work. Do you have also a video comparing X2D vs GFX100s? If you had to choose between the X2D and the GFX100s which one would you select? HNCS of the X2D over lens versatility on the GFX100s? Just think about it, you can adapt without any problems Canon and Nikon tilt-shift lenses.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Hi Roland, clearly the GFX100s is more versatile and offers more functions including lens flexibility and fast autofocus tracking. The GFX100s also can do very well 400MP Multishot images. Having said that, I am glad I do not have to make such a decision and give up on one of them ;) HNCS on the X2D is just stunning and for some jobs and scenes the image quality from the X2D is unbeatable.
@MarshallLeng
@MarshallLeng 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, this comparison make sense. in fact I bought x1d a year before gfx100s released. Fuji seems have a much better performance but I'm wondering how fuji's lens quality overall.
@wayneJohnsPhotographer
@wayneJohnsPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Fuji’s lens quality is awesome... Remember Fujifilm also made all of Hasselblad’s HC lenses anyway. :)
@kuau714
@kuau714 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison can you comment on battery life when comparing the two cameras.
@skynesher
@skynesher 3 жыл бұрын
You are showing results at 100% and 66% and there is hard to tell anything , you should show 400% and 300% and then we would see actually where one is better then other, my guess Fuji can resolve more on centre due to higher mp , and Hasselblad on edges as it looks the 80/1.7 has better edge performance. Also people who buy this lenses care for bokeh quality and it would be great to see. One more thing pushing 3 stops those sensors is not much , they are going to be clean (specially at 100% view). 4-6 stops we would see which one is actually better.
@Xingqiwu387
@Xingqiwu387 Жыл бұрын
The color rendition from the Hasselblad is definitely better than that from the Fuji. The color of the Leica in the images taken with the Fuji looks almost like a light gold, whereas the image from the HB conveys what seems to be a more natural silver. Is this the result of HB's own color science? Also, the bluish background in the HB images is much more vibrant and appealing.
@kevingarciamurga6890
@kevingarciamurga6890 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this amazing video
@adamcarter6649
@adamcarter6649 3 жыл бұрын
The blacks in the handle of the M5 look purple, and the gold body looks very different in the Fuji, I don't think the profile for either is very good.
@MacM545
@MacM545 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you mathphotographer. Please do a high ISO samples comparison if you get a chance. Fuji should be better, being that the sensor is a BSI sensor. Resolutions are different, so that should be taken into account, although based on what I've seen in the video, it seems you know that part. Now, medium format is generally better than Full Frame; but keep in mind, there's the law of diminishing returns, so the value for every dollar spent might make a purchase decision complex. I myself have thought about getting a medium format with BSI sensor for astronomy applications. I might even get a medium format service to get rid of the CFA, which many people might not even know about such a thing- which can increase resolution at least slightly but also immensely increase ISO ability. That's currently so far beyond my budget, but still, am glad to have watched your channel!
@nageshwagh2476
@nageshwagh2476 Жыл бұрын
Even after 7months of launching x2d no one is really interested to compare it to Fuji gfx 100 Would love to see that. Image comparo side by side.
@MK-bg9bj
@MK-bg9bj 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the Fuji lens is not really capable of resolving the 100MP.
@elderinmoi1571
@elderinmoi1571 2 жыл бұрын
The white balance is very different obviously. I assume colors will still be different but way less so.
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 3 ай бұрын
Fuji GFX 100S II 5500 Euro, DJI "Hasselblad" X2D 8700 Euro ! Fuji GF 80mm 1.7 2600 Euro, Hasselblad XCD 80mm 1.9 4555 Euro ! So Fuji GFX 100S II + Fuji GF 80mm 1.7 8100 Euro, so Fuji with Lens are cheaper than the Hasselblad camera body ! DJI "Hasselblad" X2D + 80mm 1.9 13,200 Euro !!! So you can get the Fuji Camera with at least 3 Lenses for the price the DJI "Hasselblad" with one lens cost ! I will also say that the Chinese company DJI which own the "Hasselblad" brand have shut down or cut down service for Hasselblad in several countries !
@GillesQuennevilleGQ
@GillesQuennevilleGQ 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is a very good review and comparaison. I can tell you that I would never merge from my Hasselblad to Fuji.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
That's what all Hasselblad lovers say :) I love the Hasselblad and I also love the Fuji which is a great tool for professional jobs. But yes, once you are addicted to that special Hasselblad look you will never leave Hasselblad.
@wayneJohnsPhotographer
@wayneJohnsPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer I left Hasselblad, couldn’t be happier and have no intention of going back....
@bhuff123
@bhuff123 2 жыл бұрын
Sony rumored to be coming out with a7R5 which is supposed to have a 100 megapixel image
@tor2919
@tor2919 2 жыл бұрын
Hasselblad has much nicer image quality. Their colour management has no equal. I shoot slowly and don’t really care about autofocus speed. But when I need af the Fuji af isn’t great either compared to a full frame camera.
@luissalazar2021
@luissalazar2021 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Good job team
@AlienGrade
@AlienGrade 10 ай бұрын
Hasselblad for me after reviewing both files in Photoshop Fuji vs Hassy, Hassy blew them all away-Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji. I was in shock the X1D a very old camera in Electronic years blows away the Nikon Z8 in image Quality!! Swedish not playing around.
@paulraphael
@paulraphael Жыл бұрын
Adobe RGB is not a profile! It's a color space / rendering intent. Choosing Adobe RGB does nothing to alter the colors from a camera. The colors are defined by the raw processing profile. You're contributing to the near universal confusion around these topics. Hasselblad X and Fuji GFX cameras have the same sensors (unless you're comparing dfferent generations like you're doing in this video) and produce raw files with the same linearity. The color differences are from the raw processing profiles. You can do a lot to change these.
@asamxs
@asamxs 5 ай бұрын
Hassy is the best white balance and Fuji for person who need distortion color tone for style. and the GF lens has the corner chromatic aberration image.
@ruslanmaslovskiy2449
@ruslanmaslovskiy2449 3 жыл бұрын
Great work, thanks a lot!
@jetfightercn
@jetfightercn 3 жыл бұрын
prefer hasselblad color rendering.
@srinagardiary-lifeinkashmi5731
@srinagardiary-lifeinkashmi5731 3 жыл бұрын
hasselblad has class
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
INDEED :)
@wolfrainerschmalfuss3515
@wolfrainerschmalfuss3515 3 жыл бұрын
Da die meisten Objektive für den Unendlichbereich optisch optimiert sind, ist dieser Vergleich eigentlich weniger sehr aussagekräftig!
@booksquotes948
@booksquotes948 2 жыл бұрын
compare hasselblad x2d (8000$) with fuji gfx100
@TimHunold
@TimHunold 3 жыл бұрын
UI is the difference between a VCR and an early iPhone.
@oatspodcast
@oatspodcast Жыл бұрын
I wish for the Fujifilm to be the Hassy!
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Ha! :)
@ruperterskin2117
@ruperterskin2117 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
@piotr.czechowski
@piotr.czechowski 2 жыл бұрын
More buttons and dials on body = more professional gear. Nothing ruins shooting than scrolling through menu to change something ...
@motobonny
@motobonny 3 жыл бұрын
Schade das bei so ein Vergleich zur Beurteilung der Abbildungsschärfe mit unterschiedlicher Monitor Interpolation gearbeitet wurde. eine 100% Darstellung wird über das Raster des Monitors 1:1 wiedergegeben wären bei der Fuji wegen der 66% Darstellung eine Interpolation erfolgen musste. Wenn man real Vergleichen will sollte man 180x60cm Ausdrucke heranziehen am besten vom gleichen Plotter auf gleichem Papier. Wozu sollte man denn solche Kameras einsetzen, wenn es hinterher nur einen Monitoransicht gibt? Das kann man ruhig den APS-C Kameras überlassen oder den Smartphone Fotografen. Digitales Mittelformat ist ein Werkzeug mit dem man großformatige Ausdrucke erstellt.
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes - that's why I print images large for clients. And I need to stay reasonable in my non-scientific considerations so I look at them at computer screens. What I can tell you is that prints from both cameras are just fantastic. I develop at White Wall and then sell out to clients. And here you really see the difference between medium format and full frame so fully agree with your statement.
@motobonny
@motobonny 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer es ist gut zu lesen das diese Form der Kunstübermittlung nicht ausstirbt, denn leider wird das betrachten auf Handydisplay immer mehr zur Gewohnheit, ws ich nicht verurteilen will, aber dafür braucht man halt nicht solche Fotoapperate wie die zwei hier getesteten. leid tun mir Diejenigen die es nie erfahren werden, wie es ist einen Barytausdruck in Händen zu halten. White Wall ist eine sehr gute Adresse für diese Art der Qualität, ich persönlich mache es dann doch lieber selbst auf eigenen Druckern.
@bubuli
@bubuli 3 жыл бұрын
Wow the Hasselblad 80/1.9 is sharper wide open even on the corners...i did not expect that. But it is also about twice as expensive as the Fuji...and don't get me wrong the Fuji is VERY good, but like I said i did not think the Hassy would be noticeably better. As the other commenters suggests...yeah sure it's not scientific but this would have been a lot better if you use a Colorchecker chart to have a calibrated sensor...or for low-effort you could have at least used a gray card to ensure the white balance is on point... I have no complaints with Hasselblad's AF performance...it's contrast-detect only but as you noted it's AF accuracy is very good. I was honestly expecting the Fuji to be a lot faster. As fo the entire camera design...I prefer the clean lines and simple/basic control design language of the Hassy. Good thing I don't do photography for a living because the XCD can be finicky and unreliable (with its early firmware...occasionally locks up...and the only camera i've lost images while shooting because it locked up while writing the images to its buffer)...otherwise I would choose the Fuji.
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 3 ай бұрын
"Different sensors", it is the same type of Sony sensor in both cameras !
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 ай бұрын
Same type for sure but individually calibrated and embedded. Likely its Sony as sensor manufacturer, I agree. But I am also not 100% sure … But yes, Sony makes most of the sensors in top notch cameras from various brands, spot on in your comment.
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 3 ай бұрын
@@mathphotographer Sony makes the sensors for Fuji, Hasselblad, OM system and more...
@Paul-jb6rk
@Paul-jb6rk 3 жыл бұрын
Easy win for the Hassy…
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
In your dream :)
@chrissyjames7711
@chrissyjames7711 2 жыл бұрын
ones yellow ones not
@bananabear009
@bananabear009 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, this man has a gold Leica M5!
@ChrisM-yq2pq
@ChrisM-yq2pq 8 ай бұрын
Leica viewfinder looks better in hassy
@BleuBakerbleubakersjrbca
@BleuBakerbleubakersjrbca 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’m the minority that cares about leaf shutters
@martijnsmith1525
@martijnsmith1525 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely niche but yeah, flash sync is a little rough with fuji. Kinda expected them to have made the 1.7 with a leaf shutter like the pentax 67 had with some lenses.
@MrPrinceJourney
@MrPrinceJourney 3 жыл бұрын
NIC VDO #g4gumi👈🤘
@jorgemoro5476
@jorgemoro5476 2 жыл бұрын
Hasselblad: Chinese garbage. Faulty, not fixable via firmware. Slow, lousy focus. Nuff said.
@jorgemoro5476
@jorgemoro5476 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thank you.
@jan-martinulvag1962
@jan-martinulvag1962 3 жыл бұрын
The cameras are for fine art and you take a picture of another camera...........get yourself a different job
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 3 ай бұрын
WHAT, you did not use the X2D, so you cannot use this comparison !!! noob
@mathphotographer
@mathphotographer 3 ай бұрын
The X2D was not even announced when this video was posted. And the GFX100II was also not yet announced 😅
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 3 ай бұрын
@@mathphotographer So you should have compared to the Fuji GFX 50 S !!!
@byazrov
@byazrov 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a very bad news for Fuji. The image you took with it is absolutely terrible in terms of color and exposure. I can't believe that this camera shoots so bad.
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 3 жыл бұрын
It's known that this Fuji has a magenta like color rendering, specially with skin tones. Fine subtle tonal ranges seem also not being rendered as nice as on the X1D.
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
It is not because of Fuji. It is because of the user. Wrong WB and Wrong Film Simulation.
@goldfinch2283
@goldfinch2283 3 жыл бұрын
@@GKhanKutar what you mean by film simulation. When you shot in RAW there is no film simulation 😉
@GKhanKutar
@GKhanKutar 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldfinch2283 there is film simulation. They are applied to raw file too. GFX has no way to show such a color. There is something wrong
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 3 жыл бұрын
In RAW shooting WB is set identical in the software, and film simulation is a no go, at the end you want your own pictures style and not a Fuji film out of the box rendering made for everybody.
@Pizdobol1
@Pizdobol1 2 жыл бұрын
ну фуджифильм и говно
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