I Promised I Wouldn't Talk About This

[@michelletuband]

"NFT convention giving attendees literal eye damage" is quite the 2023 moment nobody has seen coming.

[@KilouekaAlt]

They're not gonna see anything else coming from now on too

[@gmaer7325]

they did not see that coming!

[@derkeheath5172]

That's our modern Idiocracy!

[@pnoodl3s775]

Funnily enough this kinda brought some eyes back to NFTs, no pun intended

[@GooberInternet]

​@@gmaer7325(insert drum solo leading into a rimshot)

[@samantoniak1657]

Some clarification for anyone worried about UV lights: This was not caused by standard stage lighting. The bored ape event in Hong Kong was using non-coated mercury vapor lamps, a special type of light only used in industrial and scientific equipment. Regular 'Black Light' fixtures use a mercury vapor tube that comes from the factory with a coating that only passes deep blue and near ultraviolet light, which is safe to view. Bare mercury vapor lamps emit a small amount of visible cyan glow and a large amount of deep ultraviolet, which is invisible to the eye but very harmful to tissue. I do not have any information about the production of this event, but I doubt that they were supplied by a reputable production company. In my experience as a lighting and laser tech in the US, it would be nearly impossible for this to happen at a professional production here. I don't have any experience in Hong Kong, but industry standards there appear very different.

[@theballintruth3369]

They must have cheaped out or either a company messed up and sent the wrong light bulb

[@devonwilliams2423]

This is just like the "house of usher" episode where all the rich people show up to a "exclusive" club and result in devastation lol

[@internetuser8922]

The lights were in a small "art" room at the event that looked like a decorated restroom. Several photos show the UV-C lamps turned on in the room which is actually horrifying. It wasn't just one, the whole room was illuminated by them, and they don't give off much visible light.

[@bradreee7290]

Wait they had unrestricted UV C lamps going?? Like the ones they use to sanitize medical equipment and purify air in rooftop commercial air handlers??? Those are the only places I've seen UV C lamps used in my career

[@threestans9096]

thank you! i literally just commented this but in a not so eloquent manner. basically “any good equipment wouldnt allow the length of exposure at the right freq to cause harm. some idiot bought lights on temu” and basically, you clarified thats what happened, thank you.

[@flynn8166]

UV-light does not only cause irritation and tissue damage, but is also carcinogenic (cancer inducing). Going to an event like that and then learning about something like this afterwards has got to be one of my worst nightmares.

[@DeathStriker187]

This. Whatever problems they are having now may be SMALL compared to the problems, and even death that will arise from cancer induced from this. I dont think I could live my life not in paranoia until I'm told I have it.

[@chrisholladay]

any time cells repair/replace/replicate they have a chance of mutation, so anything involving burns, cellular damage, etc. has massive carcinogenic potential. Especially in a big localized area where it's much easier to reach critical mass

[@allegorx58]

not sure what it says about charlie’s audience that you felt it necessary to explain what carcinogenic means but i know it’s not good

[@TripleeVFX]

They were using UVC lamps which do not penetrate your skin, thus do not cause cancer

[@izzy9451]

yeah add that to my list of fears in going out

[@JakeJakers]

Charlie saying "I'm going to stop talking about this" is a voodoo curse, causing something too stupid and/or tragic to ignore to happen.

[@Taylor-fh3ys]

You aren't funny brother

[@JakeJakers]

@@Taylor-fh3ys Eh. Not every joke's gonna land.

[@ThePhrog714]

@@JakeJakersignore them they’re just being an ass for no reason

[@yoool7137]

@@Taylor-fh3ys he is not your brother taylor and you still called him brother

[@DarkKnight-rf2uu]

Everytime i think he will finally talk about it and everytime i get dissapointed

[@momomomo69]

Former biology major here, we use UV light to disinfect stuff. We were warned not to let our skin touch that stuff ever, much less our eyes. To think these people were just rawdogging it under those lights is insane...

[@iya5205]

even when sterilising the room using UV, the room must be cleared, and no one is allowed to be inside. I know someone who accidentally works for an hour while the UV light on and got red eyes for a few days (didn't stare directly, perhaps got radiation from the UV being reflected around the room)

[@grayeeeeeeee]

Sheeesh dude

[@geraldyeager7652]

SpongeBob meme: My eyes

[@brandulak]

Exactly. Everybody's talking about eye damage but skin cancer is also a very possible outcome of prolonged UV light exposure. Overall a very scary situation.

[@ymxcreatorofworlds7435]

Rawdog

[@izrrr4785]

Having lived in Hong Kong for most of my life I find it incredibly funny and ironic that the Ape event took place at the Kai Tak Cruise Terminal. It cost billions of dollars of taxpayer money, replaced one of the most iconic airports in the world (at least for aviation geeks) and not once have I ever seen a single cruise ever anchor there. Everyone in Hong Kong knows its a scam and knows how badly the government fucked up with it. Oh, and they're now building a monorail on it. Truly a fitting zoo for bored apes.

[@iamrightoutsideyourwindowhello]

the fact that your government thought ships were faster than planes is funny in itself

[@whickervision742]

Plane crashes cluster near airports. Due to overgrown population density, Meigs Field was also destroyed for safety reasons (more about drunk rich millionaire businessmen than hijackers, although that gave the final push).

[@izrrr4785]

@@iamrightoutsideyourwindowhello Well, Kai Tak was getting old, and they had to free up the approaches for higher buildings. It being dismantled was pretty inevitable. The cruise terminal just didn't live up to expectations.

[@jevilstail]

same kind of thing is happening in Hawaii with a monorail. it has taken 20 years to build, $11 BILLION dollars of taxpayer money, and the cherry on top... it's not even done yet. it only has a couple of stops.

[@mryan89]

Landing at Kai Tak was based

[@KarazolaX]

"Your honor, the plaintiffs accusing my client of blinding them have one crippling flaw in their case: They have no eyewitnesses. Case closed." - The argument their lawyers will probably try to give in court.

[@ThaTruFily]

Underrated

[@TheFakeGooberGoblin]

“Your Honor, before you look at the evidence for this case, why don’t you come check out this cool event we’re throwing?”

[@gem9535]

You SEE, your honor...

[@ChronicNewb]

I'm going to hell for laughing at this. Worth it.

[@Tw0Dots]

So you see…. Nevermind, your honor, they cannot.

[@Rex-qf7en]

Calling the injuries "Eye-related issues" is like calling a gunshot wound "Bullet-related issues"

[@brandnewdan]

Lead poisoning

[@SageGilbert191]

@@brandnewdanLead-related issues*

[@infinitehexington]

is that not what it is though?

[@BatLB]

No. The right analogy would be light related issues. Eye related issues talk about the affected area, not the effect itself.

[@stupididiot9336]

@@BatLB they tried, at least

[@AnimatedAndrew]

As much as I hate NFTs and crypto bros, I wouldn't even wish this kinda thing on them. Going blind is one of my biggest fears, especially as an artist, so I can only imagine how horrifying it must have been for them in that situation. I hope the company/event organizers get the shit sued out of them.

[@tiernodiallo1]

It was only temporary blindness they got, but I get what your saying

[@judadon707]

Artist is a bit of a long shot lil bro

[@moltengears7483]

​@@judadon707he was talking about himself

[@judadon707]

@@moltengears7483 I know he was the one I was hating on 💯

[@WhiskerDooz]

You'd be just as scared if you weren't an artist. Trust me, I'm not one lol

[@covaxgrizz69]

If i had a nickel for every time Charlie said “i know i said I would stop talking about things like this”, id prolly have like 78 cents idk

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.

[@VilactEats5SnicklesEveryDay]

fucking bots

[@oye6124]

78 is not a multiple of nickels

[@MaxiPadYT]

LOL

[@EdWedgie]

@@oye6124 he lives by his own rules

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

As someone who is 100% blind in one eye, and partially blind in the other, I genuinely feel for the people who experienced temporary or permanent eye damage. I hope anyone who went there is able to receive the medical attention they need (and I'm genuinely sorry if anyone ends up with permanent vision loss). Truly sorry for anyone who attended. I wish there were legal repercussions for the event organizers.

[@TjallieBrrr]

Damn that sucks, i really hope they find 100% "cures" for both blindness and deafness. I have a tiny blackspot in the middle of my right eye cause i looked directly at the sun in an airplane, i had never seen the sun so low cause the horizon blocks it, it was amazing but the price wasnt worth it. I cant imagine going to a crappy party and going fully blind in atleast one eye let alone both. Sorry for the rant i wish the best for you

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

@@TjallieBrrr I hope such cures are discovered one day and become readily available and accessible (sorry to hear about your experience as well). For as adaptive, resourceful, and strong as the human body can be, its systems are also incredibly fragile.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

​@@TjallieBrrrWHAT? Didn't looking at the sun hurt your eyes? How bad is the black spot

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

​@@Scout-Fanfictionhow old are you? How bad is the partial blindness? I am so sorry

[@mrsleep0000]

Oh there is, you can bet they are going to get sued to oblivion.

[@spiderdude2099]

I feel SO BAD especially for the performers that were likely exposed the worst. They looked like they were giving this lame event a really solid effort and they might have permanent health effects from this…

[@concavedskull1462]

Sadly they might… uv lighting can cause cancer… I genuinely hope they make a full recovery along with the people who went or make it without severe health problems in life… it’s so sad.

[@gooodmorning4526]

​@@concavedskull1462I'm hoping it wasn't enough to cause cancer if they're careful in the sun from now on because that would be so awful

[@RawrX32009]

They were probably nft bros, why give them compassion or pity?

[@borderlinebipolarbear]

​@@RawrX32009Probably because they still don't deserve cancer...?...

[@pinkski9175]

Every time Charlie says "the gall," you can pretty much rest assured it's going to be followed immediately by "(comma) the hootzpah"

[@zan_len]

Lmaoo is that an actual american exclamation or did he make it up?

[@HC-qc5rp]

@@zan_lenIt’s a Yiddish word

[@skyethenerd1054]

Chutzpah

[@TheLeadZebra]

Chutzpah

[@Red_Platinuum]

​@@HC-qc5rporiginally in biblical hebrew

[@KermittingWarcrimes]

What makes this worse is that it took place at night, the time that your eyes are naturally least adjusted to light

[@iamnarval]

Say hello to an earlier macular degeneration :(

[@cantileveredapotheosis]

It doesn't matter. UV-C doesn't really even penetrate the eye much. It really just hurts the conjunctiva and the cornea. This is not retinal damage,

[@KermittingWarcrimes]

@@cantileveredapotheosis Didn't entirely know that

[@dopesickdog]

​@@cantileveredapotheosisit CAN still cause surface damage or even expose them to life-threatening infection. But yeah, not nearly like staring into the Sun

[@cantileveredapotheosis]

@@dopesickdog 100% it's def a bad day, I got some minor welder burns and ... even that was frustratingly painful and I could only imagine how bad it could get with extended exposure.

[@sqrlmonger]

Community notes is honestly great - didn't let them get away with a nebulous reference to what happened. Made sure everyone knew exactly what the "eye-related issues" were.

[@slinky911]

The way they desperately tried to downplay everything is disgusting and the attendees should absolutely sue them

[@ricardozetino6907]

​@@slinky911 If they legally can

[@elena-lune]

Having sunglasses at clubs/venues that go berserk with stupid lights is actually a really good tip I can give y'all as a raver. I've been to clubs where people ask me "why are you wearing sunglasses" so I'd lie about being intoxicated just so I don't have to explain them while yelling how I don't appreciate getting randomly flashbanged by an underpaid light technician.

[@Ren-ps6re]

W tip

[@wafu6058]

Given the wavelength of light used here, sunglasses wouldn't do much if anything at all. There aren't universal glasses for lasers either, you need specific ones for specific colour's / wavelengths and there aren't any universal glasses to protect against lasers.

[@jakewulgar]

@@wafu6058better than nothing i suppose

[@draximo9036]

​@@wafu6058not even welding goggles?

[@hayleyxyz]

I just don't go to clubs. Honestly never seen the appeal

[@RoyLevan]

5:23 gonna have to side with red boi here. Wearing sunglasses at raves while intoxicated is a pro strat. Especially when you’re on psychedelics. Genuinely so much better to slightly filter out the intensity and brightness of it all, rather than getting blasted with the lights all the time.

[@usegamey]

I feel really bad for them and couldn't imagine if I was going through the same thing...

[@Wheningoubt]

They called me silly on twitter so deserved imo

[@zooweemama6755]

I know right… imagine buying nfts

[@fireraid9173]

If you aren't stupid enough to buy their shit then you don't need to imagine anything

[@vulcandawg7623]

i dont feel bad for them

[@Turano71]

lmao imagine buying an NFT

[@krispingle]

As a blind man I feel bad for these people that shit had to be horrifying for them. People don't ever think about their eyes so when you get a sight scare that shit must be horrible. (To avoid further confusion I have septo-optic dysplasia I can still see weakly out of my left eye)

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.

[@ShoobieBoobie]

Wait a minute…

[@krispingle]

@@ShoobieBoobie right eye I can still sorta see with my left

[@krispingle]

@@ChrisShafferOfficial what in the nine goes any of that mean?

[@bonehead2641]

​@@krispinglemost likely a bot.

[@totempolejoe1]

I went into this video thinking the situation could be some kind of unfortunate coincidence, or a mass psychogenic illness. But ultraviolet radiation is nothing to mess around with, and if the Apefest crew did use unprotected UV lighting, that's negligent as hell, and they should be sued. I hope the victims make a full recovery. Losing your eyesight is frightening. EDIT: I just wanted to share a quote from a Fortune article about this incident. If what Fortune is claiming here is true... this is one of the worst fuckups of 2023. Jesus Christ. "Instead of using harmless black fluorescent lighting for effect, organizers appear to have used germicidal disinfectant lamps, either by mistake or through negligence. These produce a form of UV light strong enough to kill organic matter at a cellular level and are commonly used in the food and beverage industry as a chemical-free method of sterilization. Their high-power bulbs likely burned the corneal epithelium, causing the pain."

[@MaskedDeath_]

Holy shit, that really is a massive fuck up if it's true. Probably didn't have an actual professional managing the lighting, like Charlie said.

[@PvtAnonymous]

the ghost haunting Alec Baldwin has found himself a new medium...

[@shrimp.trap3]

There is NO WAY they bought those lights without knowing they were sterilizing UV lights. It’s awful.

[@DavidJayIndie]

I bet what happened is, the lamps were cheaper, and they didn't care enough to check if it was dangerous, and just went with it. @@shrimp.trap3

[@Caldella]

Woah, holy shit. If that's really what happened, that's insane. Most of the reputable germ-killing UV lights come in enclosed devices - both because the enclosure helps the effectiveness, and because you're not supposed to look at the light for this very reason.

[@councilv1250]

As a welder, if it is uv light the damage could be long lasting. We will get eye burns if someone arcs off when you're not ready. Often times won't feel it till the next day but most the time feels like you have sand in your eyes all day. I've seen cases though where the eyes are really bloodshot and constantly tearing up. Depending on how strong the light was and how long you were there it could definitely have long term vision affects

[@courier3320]

Flashburn is always fun and interactive. I got some just for me last month.

[@spindoctor4209]

Was looking for another one of my kind

[@-despair]

I genuinely feel bad for them. I'd be panicking so much If I suddenly lost my vision.

[@babag5891]

If a muppet get thoseuv lights for a party everyone there is fuked

[@Uglyatx]

id be panicking more if my investment dropped 99%

[@Ealsante]

@@Uglyatx At least they're no strangers to panic, then XD

[@Viper-dz2kw]

It’s terrifying, I went blind out of nowhere for like 30 minutes years ago and it was one of the worst things I’ve ever experienced

[@frits191]

UV damage could very, very easily be permanent. No one likes nft-bros, but I wouldn't wish vision loss/blindnesss and severly increased risk of cancer. Its like they put up mini suns as lights like....

[@lettersnstuff]

so, as far as I understand, the issues people are having are a result of exposure to UV-C lamps, someone bought the germicidal kind of ultraviolet light, not the fun kind, but these kinds of lamps tend to have one really strong spike in the uv-c and relatively low emission of longer wavelength light, UV-C is high energy, but because of its short wavelength it’s really bad at penetrating more than a millimeter or two into the skin, you might get a mild sunburn, but you probably won’t meaningfully increase your risk of cancer or cataracts or anything. it still sucks though.

[@frits191]

@lettersnstuff still, prolonged exposure, say a few hours. But interesting I had heard alot pop up abour products with uv-c but I aint exposing my eyes to that shit, thats almost like looking intl the sun, almost. Makes you wonder how this ever got approved or checked

[@GmmBeast]

​@@lettersnstuffEvery sunburn you get increases your risk of cancer. It may not be by much, but it does.

[@JollyRed0045]

Majority of melanoma cases are in people who have office jobs, not outdoor jobs.

[@JollyRed0045]

One reason why office workers may be at higher risk for developing malignant melanoma is their exposure to UVA wavelengths filtered through office windows. Lack of Vitamin D production from lack of sun exposure. Full spectrum sunlight exposure is necessary and beneficial. Yes, excessive UVA from sunlight is bad, but reasonable amount of UVA actually helps the body produce nitric oxide, which is a good thing by helping your arteries to relax and help normalize your blood pressure.

[@Cosmo6677]

I am truly sorry for everyone affected by this and I pray they will recover 100%. The idea of going somewhere to have fun and enjoy yourself and lose your eyesight as a result is sickening.

[@darkfur18]

They used UVC STERILIZATION lamps. These things are meant to kill pretty much all life on contact and do in fact, produce the worst wavelengths of UV. Note that these lights are a very attractive light blue color.

[@nono-wo2yu]

ooo shiny

[@pogpurin]

Good lord 😰

[@MrPaxio]

LOL don't try to sound smart, cos ure not

[@freindlyspicerun4424]

Literal ape brained coordinator

[@darkfur18]

@@MrPaxio If this is trying to sound smart to you, I'd hate to see what you're like in normal conversation. You know any words 6 letters or longer, by any chance?

[@cats1970]

Once had a very mild case of this. Everything was green and blurry but not to the point of blindness. My lips were so burnt I couldn’t even speak so I can’t imagine the pain they’re in. It usually takes weeks to heal so they should get income restitution at the very least!

[@Suiseisexy]

Green because the visible light spectrum for humans is centered at 556 nm, actually interesting to hear that lol

[@Eramaeis]

“My eyesight might be fucked but eh, I’m not mad” 😂😂😂😂

[@jcoster8291]

I heard speculation that these weren't regular UV lights like for like growing plants either these were the type specifically made for sterilizing germs, so if that's true that means those lights were legitimately made to kill some things.

[@quartz97]

Apparently it was UVC. Legit, the kind of light they use to sterilize lab equipment. The kind of shit with mandatory "DO NOT LOOK DIRECTLY AT THE LIGHT, JACKASS" warnings plastered directly on the device.

[@selkrasouza6262]

I hear they used UV-C lights, which aren’t cheap either. As in, they’d be significantly more expensive than standard stage UV lighting. Apparently they spent more money just to vaporize peoples eyeballs. I can’t imagine the motivation behind this if true other than spies infiltrating the nft community just to slander it from within. Or incompetence.

[@devonwilliams2423]

This is just like the "house of usher" episode where all the rich people show up to a "exclusive" club and result in devastation lol

[@munkustrap2]

​@@devonwilliams2423 I thought this was a pretty good comment...until I saw it again. Reusing the same reply to different comments is kinda lame tbh

[@sybill123ful]

one of the top comments is some guy whose a literal lighting and laser lights, technician; and his assumption is basically exactly what you’re assuming too. they (allegedly) were the same power of uv light that’s used for sterilizing entire rooms and large areas.

[@TheHatGuy]

The light situation makes me think of a Doofenshmirtz level plan, from Phineas and Ferb. "You see Perry the Platypus, my eyesight has been really bad lately, so I made a convention where the lights will make everyone's eyesight worse than mine with the Blindinator 3000!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@MrQuinnzard]

Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure that was the plot of an actual episode!

[@Ghs6]

@MrQuinnzard which episode

[@Goku17yen]

1:11 silly bands was a crazy reference, i remember when they were so popular in school back in the day

[@ragingdiolover3147]

charlie has been my news reporter for the pasts years, love it

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.,

[@Taylor-fh3ys]

No one fucking cares bro

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

Three bots bruh

[@soppytrout_0145]

@@ThisGuyDannyyy Four bots now

[@PopCatChef]

Beep boop

[@tess818]

there’s a kid who looks exactly like Charlie at my school and he’s fully embraced it. my man is out there with the white shirt, black shorts, and long hair/beard. honestly such a cool dude

[@Salem_Witch_Trial_Logic]

What a lad!

[@monarchstoke]

Marry that man

[@railworksamerica]

Madlad

[@foreverconfusedd7949]

Madlad

[@TheProxyd]

Madlad

[@Marsdog02]

I know the situation sound silly, but for people with pre-existing eye conditions its scary as hell. I have a rare eye disease called Coats Disease, where the blood vessels in the back of the eye leak causing fluid build up that can detach the retina and permanently damage your eyesight. I had to go to Miami 3 times for laser eye surgery, if I had gone to that event (just as a hypothetical, I hate nfts) I fully believe that could have reopened my eye damage and made me have to remove my eye. Thats scary.

[@MilesEmpey]

As someone who has developed an eye disease and saw one of my eyes go downhill for about a year I feel really terrible for these people. I’m not even blind in that eye but it still sucks. My prayers go out to the people affected.

[@LivingToDye]

The best part of this was them trying to minimize what they did.. "well, ya know. We didn't damage THAT MANY peoples eyes"

[@michaelmoorrees3585]

BigClive did a great video on this issue. The offending germicidal UV lamps, only occupied a small area of the event. Those lamps, when new, aren't that cheap. Probably someone's cousin did the decor, with used lamps pulled from some hospital, undergoing construction.

[@Yroxcruk666]

the funniest part is that the nft bros will most likely NOT sue because theres a high chance that they could win that lawsuit and if they do, it will affect the image of NFTs and further hurt they abysmal value

[@flawed1]

Their only regret is that they have but two eyes to lay upon the altar of bored ape 🤣

[@railworksamerica]

Lmfao they never fail to take Ls

[@TrenchCrusade]

There is one major flaw in your point. It requires nft bros to have a level of self-reflection and foresight that they will never possess.

[@ayajade6683]

Does China even have laws that protects people if something like this occurs

[@martijnp]

How does that matter, the lawsuit could probably give them a bigger bag than the nft will

[@robertmoog3]

Blue lasers with a bad diode can end up emitting very dangerous spectra of light and the scariest part is you wouldnt even know it until long after exposure. This is why they reccomend not to cheap out on laser pointers and the like, let alone lighting for a public event.

[@HicSvntDracones]

But in this case, they literally used UV-C germicidal lamps because they have the prettiest blue... serious. This is also twice this has happened in Hong Kong

[@Suiseisexy]

There's a video about how it also happens if you get them cold, makes them invisible too. Glad ANTIFA just had blue instead of shit like that.

[@allegorx58]

dude. no. please research this.

[@robertmoog3]

@@allegorx58 what's the issue?

[@Suiseisexy]

@@robertmoog3 i did get it wrong and it's green lasers that are dangerous at cold temperatures but idk about the rest.

[@OfficialExplosionMusic]

Sometimes clubs will have DJs that aren't the main event/headline and they'll turn down the other sets to make the main guest sound like they are "really bringing the energy". Other times, they point the lights at the crowd. They are clearly blatantly unaware about lighting on accident

[@TommyCrosby]

I'm glad someone finally made fun of the NFTs bros without forgetting that they are not responsible for being torched by UVs and are still victims of a criminal negligence from someone else.

[@KeithPickeringGuy]

I don't want to victim blame, but how many times do you let someone dip their hand in the piranha tank before you just remove their ability to continue hurting themselves?

[@moltengears7483]

​@@KeithPickeringGuy??? Nft bros dont often do that at each other but yea

[@andromeda_va39]

​@@KeithPickeringGuyI get it, but how were they supposed to expect something like this? Nobody attending the event could have seen this coming.

[@tachibanakimika]

@@andromeda_va39they couldnt see it coming, and they couldnt see it leave 👁️

[@roseyoung44]

​@KeithPickeringGuy I'm gonna be honest, starting a sentence with "I don't want to victim blame", just to go on and immediately victim blame is wild. There's an obvious difference between the financial irresponsibility of buying NFTs and being fucking blinded.

[@thesqueeeps]

From everything I’m reading it isn’t even just unshielded UV lights. They used like medical grade germicide UV bulbs (I think it’s called UV-C) which are like turbo charged UV lights made to fry germs

[@velocityraptor2890]

good GOD! who the fuck thought any of this was a good idea?!

[@ChrisCherchant]

Well, at least they were clean by the end!

[@Juicycroissanwich]

I’m sure the event goers were blindsided. They never saw this coming! It has to burn knowing that this was preventable. Eye think that the event organizers really dropped the eyeball on this one. I’m in tears! Even if nfts are very cornea, it’s not an excuse to be lazy. I hope all affected can see the bright side to this, and I hope everyone lens a hand to one another. This must be very sclery to experience, and I will definitely be keeping an eye out for situations like this in the future

[@howmuchmorecanItake]

ouch

[@ashtar3876]

THAT'S ENOUGH

[@MrMacchiato97]

When the optometrist becomes a dad

[@NickMC512]

Stop it…they’re already dead….

[@DevilinDupriest]

You. I like you.

[@lion-face9804]

This specifically happens with UV-C lighting, which is typically used in the food industry and HVAC industry because UV-C is has germicidal properties. KZbinr BigClive has a video about it if you want to learn more.

[@theplaguegamer6216]

This happened to my brother while fishing. He kept moving to where the fish are and he kept sitting in a direct reflection of the sun on the water. It wasn't near as bad as this but he couldn't keep his eyes open for more than a few minutes.

[@mellowmoo6747]

Man… I already get clowned on for wearing hearing protection at concerts and big events, but now I hear enemies in video games much sooner than my friends. I guess I’m gonna have to be that douchebag that wear sunglasses inside as well 😔

[@allegorx58]

maybe you just have your volume turned up louder than them chudly magoo

[@mellowmoo6747]

@@allegorx58 nah not really, but audio is subjective. Wearing hearing protection at concerts is definitely beneficial

[@ChrisCherchant]

I wear earplugs at concerts. No shame. It sounds about the same, you save your hearing and you still feel the bass.

[@lenaboyer6981]

@@ChrisCherchant concert earplugs are amazing, i can even hear my friends talking but everything is at a way more comfortable volume. I tried taking them out once during a heavy metal performance just to see the difference and I have no idea how people can listen to that at full volume!

[@xstarsystemsx]

As someone who now has permanent tinnitus from the years I went to concerts without hearing protection: you're the smart one here. I'm happy earplugs are a lot more common sight now at concerts, at least around where I'm from.

[@Wayte13]

I can't even laugh at this point, it's officially crossed over into "sad" territory.

[@shalthepal6513]

​@@joeynigrololbot

[@Nyaliva]

Holy shit, when I saw "eye-related issues" I assumed it was an outbreak of pink-eye...this is genuinely horrific! Who the hell does this?! This isn't "haha funny monkey people be stupid" this is genuine negligence and how it happened should be investigated!

[@coleswagerty8020]

Pretty awful, and happens more than you think (more on the scale of house parties tho)

[@BradToon]

ironic how they invested in some pictures and can’t even look at them rn 😂

[@NoGamuNoLaifu]

There is a saying in German: "If you don't want to hear, you have to feel". Perhaps this will finally help them to get over their NFT delusion.

[@jimlucas0]

We have the same saying in Dutch!

[@thiccfucka69xxx]

Wise words indeed

[@johnnybaxter1953]

@@jimlucas0 Dutch and German are basically the same people

[@divat10]

​@@johnnybaxter1953i have never felt more offended (i am dutch)

[@dasyoutubeklohauschen]

nope. this could have happened to anybody. the only ones to blame here are the event organizers. don't blame the victims please

[@Cullenatorable]

I used to work in air conditioning and this happened to me with a uv light before and it is IMMENSELY painful. It's a horrible experience

[@cabbage_cat]

Not only they suffer from brain damage for buying NFTs, they are also suffering from UV burns. Poor apes.

[@xxfloppypillowxx]

I mean the eye damage is only a small part of the problem. Long term exposure to unfiltered UV light is linked to skin cancer.... it's the reason you're told to wear sunscreen because while the atmosphere does protect you from some of the UV light it does not protect you from all of it. It's the reason why tanning beds are so dangerous. This was completely moronic and, in my opinion, criminally negligent but I highly doubt they will be held accountable or even liable.

[@caffeinatedpossum]

These are honestly worse than tanning beds, these types of lights are used to sterilize environments. In which cases, they evacuate the room before using the lights because of the damage it can do. They're designed to kill things on a microscopic level.

[@xxfloppypillowxx]

@@caffeinatedpossum yeah I guess I didn't get that across correctly. This is completely unfiltered UV light, which even tanning beds don't do.

[@XenaH_Exists]

I wouldn't even be able to restrain myself from yapping about this to my friends lmao. Your restraint, although in vain, was admirable

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof

[@Aquapasta]

these bots are getting out of hand 💀

[@kyledcunningham]

I can never understand slang nowadays, everyone’s really using yapping now huh? A term from the 1800s that’s crazy.

[@Vinni-2K]

feel like that word summoned all these cursed bots@@kyledcunningham

[@tezzla6358]

just don't talk about them, theres enough annoying comments already@@Aquapasta

[@SquigglesZero]

Holy-moly! You can see on the video of the stage that they used some brutally powerful blacklight! Normally you shouldn't be able to see it, but you can clearly see the beams! I read somewhere that the organizers wanted to be extra fancy and didn't use normal UV lamps made for stages and such, but super expensive industrial grade lamps. The ones used for sterilizing stuff. Tricky stuff 'cause it is invisible but causes the same kind of eye damage as any powerful light source.

[@gooodmorning4526]

Surely there was a warning when they hired or bought them? There's no way they didn't

[@gaminggladiator06]

From other comments, it seems these lights are way more dangerous than was let on. I was originally worried this would cause a form of skin cancer to those that were in prolonged contact with those lights, now i’m fearing to may be so much worse.

[@Mi_Fa_Volare]

Beyond UV-C?

[@alexandersepa3037]

As a metal fabricator thats exposed to uv rays constantly. That shit HURTS. It cause blisters in your eyes and it feels like sand is getting rubbed into them. Scary part too is you dont know you got exposed till about 4 hours later

[@velocityraptor2890]

"blisters in your eyes", that is the single most disgusting thing i've ever heard about, im so sorry that you had to experience that

[@EmyN]

Will… will you be ok? Isn’t carcinogenic? Won’t it damage your eye sight?

[@alexandersepa3037]

@EmyN yes I'll be ok thank you and it only last for a short while depending how long you got exposed for. As a fabricator you tend to know pretty quick when you get flashed so you can pull yourself away. But with these event goers cause it wasn't obvious and the constantly exposed themselves it made their symptoms much worse

[@alexandersepa3037]

@meisteremm there definitely are, but I get paid a hell lot, and as long as you use all your ppe and be cautious, it won't happen

[@EmyN]

@@alexandersepa3037 I see, I hope everything turns out ok

[@rankyb8088]

They all had eye damage before for reading about nfts and still buying monkey pictures

[@oscaryuen311]

Not only they are financially ruined from investing, they are also financially ruined because of the medical bill.

[@naifalbaihed1230]

It’s Hong Kong it’s probably already covered by the government.

[@calistacalder4931]

i've had photokeratitis (welder's flash). the most painful thing i've experienced, worse than broken bones imo, though my case was pretty severe. feels like the insides of your eyelids are like sandpaper, any and all eye movements are horribly painful. i can point at myself and laugh about it, but really only have sympathy for others

[@SpiceIntolerance]

I remember my boss describing it just like that when I started my apprenticeship and that the only way he could sleep was by getting so drunk he passed out lol. It definitely scared me into sticking to the H+S rules though because even after my 14 years of welding I’ve luckily never experienced it! 🤞🏼

[@dmil404]

I worked in a fireplace factory setting up parts for wire welders. The arc flash from 8 hours of exposure was incredibly painful and required about 2 hours a night with a wet cloth over the eyes.

[@pickelsvx]

In college, our welding instructor taught us all a lesson about welders flash by stepping out of the way after the speel as the other instructor struck an arc behind him. Afterwards we were issued our helmets. 1/10 would not recommend looking at the very pretty bluish-white light.

[@sleeeto]

this also happens when glassblowers/lampworkers don’t wear eye protection

[@THEFRISKIESTDINGO]

I see “eye-related injuries” and NFTs and I immediately think there was a pink eye war with everyone trying to bare-ass fart in each other’s faces.

[@sigh-cosis]

Man, I would be eye-rate if I found out event organizers blinded me over their lightning choices Edit: Sorry, i meant lightning choices...

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.

[@kobra6660]

They basically enjoyed a day on the surface of the sun if it emmitted only uv light

[@TheCodyMac]

Nice 😎

[@CarefulHowYouStep]

*lightning ;)

[@SpeedyJuiceMan]

Found a arch linux user

[@ShreyasA07]

Black shirt Charlie is back. That's how you know shit is going down

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.

[@JXX646]

@@ChrisShafferOfficialOk.

[@JXX646]

@CrewmateComplexXPOk.

[@JXX646]

@SyakirinBinAmirOk.

[@SageGilbert191]

It’s just these three bot accounts Why doesn’t KZbin ban them?

[@MarcosFMolina]

The only thing that can get you more broke than getting NFTs, is requiring medical attention in the States. They had no mercy.

[@Crazy_Alex_7667]

5:10 it’s definitly just people walking by and seeing a “party” and joining

[@dirtyshinobii]

I never thought I'd feel bad for NFT bros

[@sam_c95]

My contact lenses have UV protection built into them. I never considered it might protect me at an event like this, although I trust any show I go to will take more care when choosing lighting than this one did

[@krisridge1985]

That's really useful, it might save your eyes.

[@SpicySpinosaurus]

Charlie calling something Weenie Hut Jr is absolutely my favourite burn of all time. So simple and I imagine it cuts deeper than if he just outright called the thing dumb. 😂

[@tacenda3250]

Is this coming from someone who has seen SpongeBob?

[@SpicySpinosaurus]

@@tacenda3250 Of course ☺

[@megamandrn001]

If Charlie put something I did in the Weenie Hut Jr. bucket, I would immediately stop doing that thing for all time and make a full apology video

[@pratyushranjan3913]

@@megamandrn001 don't forget the ukulele

[@boshy2376]

You reminded me that silly bands were cooler (and had more utility) than NFTs. Hidden memory unlocked

[@chrise8275]

I mean, if you’ve ever seen an NFT, you would also go blind with how terrible they look.

[@LunamPuer]

The dude with the sunglasses literally saved himself. He probably couldn't afford a rave mask, cuz he blew all his cash on apes, and thought: "Yeah... the sunglasses will be cool enough." Turns on, he was right.

[@RyanCakici]

I'm so happy to see all the NFT shills finally realize that all the trolling on the internet was warranted

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.

[@ObisStuff]

​@@ChrisShafferOfficialnobody cares

[@Paxindica96]

cool, you dont even watch the video smh

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

Bro these bots always raid KZbin

[@crono3339]

They're the worst on Charlie's videos man I don't understand it.

[@jesusantoniomartinezturbi4393]

They are going to come out with a new bored ape call “blind ape” and give to those affected as a compensation for their injuries.

[@ThatOneGuyHereRn]

A few years ago, I managed my aquarium's UV filters, taking precautions so that I dont look at the light often, and it still gave me a day's worth of eye injury. Cant imagine what the event managers thought of using UV light for this event

[@benturner3458]

2:11 "So many tweets from attendees wondering if what they experienced was an 'eye-solated' incident"......... Damn

[@user-re8tc1dg3b]

Imagine that this was premeditated. Just an actual supervillain wanting to blind the fools

[@weekendthreat5576]

man just this week i've been down the laser-content rabbit hole and learning about how UV light actually works. with that knowledge im super concerned for everyone who basked in that devil lighting. also that sunglasses man better have not had cheap-ass sunnies on 😬

[@lollllloro]

A similar thing from a Big Clive video about fluorescent lamps: Someone thought they had bought a new cool looking clear variant of those harmless "blacklight" UVA fluorescent tubes that make certain things glow, but instead bought germicidal UVC-tubes (clear quartz-glass tube) and caused skin and eye problems to a bunch of people who reported smelling ozone at the hall. Normally fluorescent tubes are normal glass that won't even let that kind of UV through, with a fluorescent coating inside that converts the UV to visible light.

[@HicSvntDracones]

He covered the Bored Ape thing and tracked down the exact lights

[@lollllloro]

@@HicSvntDracones The video I remember was years ago, is this news that old?

[@HicSvntDracones]

@@lollllloro This is brand new, just happened over the weekend at the bored ape yacht club open house in Hong Kong

[@Mi_Fa_Volare]

That's even worse. Those lamps are designed for disifection and surely works wonders against mold. That's also what welding emits as a byproduct. Pain kicks in after 6 hous (so typically in the middle of the night) and it makes the lens sore. Is the case you are talking about in Hong Kong? Because that's where such a thing happened.

[@HicSvntDracones]

@@Mi_Fa_Volare Just google bored ape eye damage. Yes it happened this weekend in Hong Kong, and yes, it has happened BEFORE in Hong Kong. They had an art exhibit that looked like a bathroom, with paint splatters all over it and at the top of the wall was tons of germicidal UV-C lamps wrapping around the area, you can tell these are UV-C lamps because the tubes have standing-wave patterns in them that are unique to UV-C tubes. This happened at a prior event, and several people have also tried to use UV-C bulbs as decorative lighting at home, which didn't go too well for them.

[@deltacream]

The event supposedly rewarding those who bought Board Ape NFTs, seemingly got punished instead with temporary/permanent eye blindness.

[@billowymik]

0:29 a great description of the goofiness addiction that plagues us humans

[@theorderofthedarklord7698]

Man, I found out I had cancer last week and watching Charlie is the best way to stay positive, if he can live life being short, I can definitely beat cancer 😂

[@neonknight6373]

Dang,sorry man,hope its nothing too awful,cancers a fuckin bitch,stay well

[@sharneblack2431]

W bro hope U get better

[@tay7931]

wish you good health!

[@Jackieism]

Stay strong! I hope you beat cancer bro :)

[@JohnAbellanosa12]

hope u get better man

[@EspyMelly]

"They probably already forgave them" Yes, because to do anything else would be FUD, so I wouldn't be surprised if they started stifling any discussion of this mistake. Only positive discussion of the event will be allowed. Hell they'll probably start saying this was all a conspiracy.

[@desls1657]

I imagine that losing that much money on a doomed investment would cause many of the attendees to go for a lawsuit in the hopes of making back a shred of what they lost.

[@winterphuntasm]

Love how Charlie is being honest

[@PoyowenPoyo]

From what I’ve gathered the event was in Hong Kong, meaning the victims may have a hard time pursuing legal action even if they wanted to.

[@WolfWould]

Dude I have LED grow lights for my fun plants and if you just look in it's direction you see spots for a minute! I couldn't imagine standing under it for more than a few seconds!

[@stephenpmurphy591]

Fun Botany is joyous. Growing other types of fun fungi is also fun.

[@jazzabighits4473]

lmao "fun plants", i like that

[@kirkprospector4958]

I too love basil!!

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

Imagine going to an NFT convention, and your eyes get sunburned.

[@Brother8237]

1:43 that’s the same shit you get when you look at a plasma welder with no visor goddamn

[@xScruffyx]

"MY EYES" - THAT ONE FISH

[@Mieskun1]

Bald! Bald! Bald!

[@Opandort]

We know Charlie never keeps promises

[@LillySerino]

Onb

[@fatal-raven009]

real

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

Didnt ask. I lUV ANIMAL ABVSE. My content is more entertaining and has more substance than this utubers entire career. Eye posted proof.

[@marceresrellios1600]

@@LillySerinoon bob?

[@Scasmemes]

These bots crazy af 💀💀

[@darkmetal2412]

Honestly being blind is such a scary fate i actually feel bad a little for the NFT bros.... A little Imagine not being able to look at your NFT you wasted you money on

[@BlackShoe__]

Imagine the last thing you see being an NFT 💀

[@NordicDragon1337]

They simply tried to save NFT's being watched without paying 💀

[@rasmie8858]

I have a feeling the NFT bros aren't going after the organizers because deep down they know they are in deep shit and last thing they need is for the organizers to use what is left of their assets to fight the lawsuit

[@quinnmiller1997]

BigClive did a good video explaining this and which kind of lights it was caused by

[@viriconium1]

You cant say your PNGs lost 99% of value if you cant see its price!

[@ryan1H3Lion]

That TMG “suck a titty while standing up” reference was a good shout Charles.

[@Chr0meDom3]

Straight up GOINKIN it

[@TheDanWhoSoldTheWorld]

But you guys don't realize, it was a really good picture of an ape.

[@jessehartmemes]

Charlie is the type of guy to talk

[@jefftraboulsy8631]

Sounds like a quick paycheck to me! Fire up the class action, fam!