I Ruined My Daughter's Graduation And Now She's Gone No Contact With Me r/Relationships

[@Markee]

Quality is a bit off right now because I’m recording while on holiday 🇯🇵 have taken enough time off now but can’t get back to regular uploads until Wednesday when I’m back home 🇦🇺

[@xplayfan21]

Hope you had a good vacation man

[@hagnat]

i hope your sore voice is invesiley proportional to how much fun you are havin in Japan :) enjoy the land of the rising sun :D

[@LisaApril]

Oh I thought you were missing. So glad to hear you are on vacation. Very great stories today. Thank you

[@maxinemyers9215]

Missed your video’s but everyone deserves a life 💐Enjoy your vacation!

[@carleyglambert-secondchannel79]

Enjoy your vacation Vids can wait. Wondered why there was no vids from you this week.

[@taylorlibby7642]

If someone decides to go "no-contact" with you and you feel it's unjustified imo the best response is to just back off and let them.

[@Deedoof]

No, no, no, you have to be invasive and pushy so they understand why they're wrong for not catering to you!

[@ArcanineEspeon]

I can confirm. At best, it'll feel like screaming into an empty, uncaring void. At worst, it will be reason for them to justify their hatred of you and further prevent them from ever coming around. Not that I would have any idea if the second one happened, anyway.

[@BeingLolaStar]

I simply don't understand why you would want a relationship with someone who doesn't want you around. I had a friend who became really critical of me and was constantly lying and making life difficult for me. We were living together at the time. She lied about moving dates, left me with a bunch of bills, and even lied about moving in with another friend when she said she was moving because of work. Three years later she came crawling back wanted to be friends again and tried to apologize. She was shocked when I accepted her apology but didn't want her back in my life. My life got better without her. I have more money now. My house is more peaceful. Realized how much I was being taken advatage of in the name of friendship. Let people show you who they are. Let them leave. Don't chase people who don't want to be around you. Process the grief of letting them go but LET THEM GO.

[@BusArch42]

Agreed. My sister was using me as an emotional trash can. Venting multiple times every day. It got really rough. Her marriage was falling apart. It was a one way relationship that had actually become abusive. Then one day I had news I was so happy about. I thought my sister would share my joy. Our oldest kid had earned a full ride academic scholarship to our local college. She always struggled in school so this was amazing news. I texted my sister and she responded great. My kid will probably have to take loans out. Then to diver it up she acted like me texting her during the work day was violating some rule she had set (she had said don’t call) and said she wasn’t speaking to me until I apologized. Don’t threaten me with a good time. It’s been three tranquil years. Oh and yes second divorce is final for her.

[@immasnakeee6460]

ALL her kids cut her off basically. Op is an obviously damn awful mother. She’s something else. YTA

[@xplayfan21]

The sun cutter off because he's a covid Denying POS

[@KadeStringer2.0]

She isn’t a horrible woman or mother . She made a mistake but it doesn’t make her a bad mother .

[@juliankurniawan7555]

​@@KadeStringer2.0yeah she a bad mother why can't she just suck it up for her daughter graduation

[@carolroberts4614]

I know if someone who has 7 kids, and is not in contact with any of them! But " It's Not My Fault! "

[@immasnakeee6460]

@@KadeStringer2.0then why did all her other kids cut her off? It wasn’t from one event

[@sitnspin1819]

Story 1... That mother is either wilfully blind or she's so self-centred, that she's entirely incapable of rational thought. You just know there's a LOT more to the story than what she's saying. Her relationship with every single child is done for.

[@carlrood4457]

Think about it. Estranged from mother. Estranged from daughter. What's the common denominator? Sometimes, if you can't find the AH messing up the situation, then the AH is you.

[@amadkmimi1144]

"Missing missing reasons" Is quite a common thing when kids cutoff their parents. There is a reason, the child have communicated this but the parent refuses to acknowledge this and claims that NC came out of the blue and that there were no warning/reason

[@MrJpaynebb]

OP admits that she's at fault for the terrible relationships she has with her kids and mom. It took much self reflection and therapy for her to do so but she is making progress. As for the kid she is in touch with and her own mom she knows it's tense so hopefully she has learned what not to do to make things worse.

[@ZombieSazza]

She honestly reminds me of my own mother, who I’m no contact with, just completely self centred, doesn’t care who she hurts, believes she’s always correct, huge victim complex. OP and my mother are of the same cloth, hope they enjoy hell together,

[@Davtwan]

Wasn’t expecting a four-year-later update though. Shame that it sounds like the scars are probably too deep.

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

Last story. OP definitely needs to report her husband and his affair partner to his commanding officer. My cousin's husband was a staff sergeant in the Marines. She found out he was having an affair with a fellow staff sergeant. She reported both him and her to their commanding officer, for adultery/extramarital Sexual Conduct. Both he and his affair partner were given a dishonorable discharge, forfeitured all pay and allowances, and confined for 1 year. What really pissed us all off, and astounded us was the fact that her ex-husband's parents blamed my cousin for everything. To them his dishonorable discharge was worse than the "meer" fact the he cheated on her, and blamed her for ruining his career. My cousin was and still is a spitfire, and she told his them (verbatim), "Your son was dishonorablly discharged because HE decided to put his d*ck into someone that was NOT his wife. So, obviously you raised your son with mediocre morals and values." She never heard back from her ex-MIL after that, lol. Thank goodness they didn't have children. She has since married a really great guy and they have been married for 15 years.

[@ZombieSazza]

Your cousin is an absolute legend, she not only put her foot down, but she let ex-MIL know she’s a real POS

[@KadeStringer2.0]

That’s not how it works

[@IHateNicolasCage]

If you have 4 kids and they all have strained relationships with you…….. that’s a hint.

[@jemma709]

Story 2 was updated. The man continued to take OP for an idiot by saying there wasn’t an affair then tried to gaslight her when she later found proof. I think the only reason she was able to stay strong was because of her work friends.

[@Deedoof]

Story 2: I knew this POS was cheating, who plays sports that late and that many times a week? And epileptics aren't signing up for volleyball either. OP's husband groomed her to be a complicit doormat. Dude got angry because he actually thought OP wouldn't leave even after telling her the divorce would be good for _HIM_. This is an abuser and I hope we get a happier update from OP.

[@immapotato1]

my friends play sport regularly. they do it once or twice a week IN THE MORNING. noone is playing sports after work when their body feels like it's dying on a regular basis (we tried felt like death every freaking time)

[@xelectrix]

Also, he sure leaves his phone behind a lot of places without it getting stolen

[@Deedoof]

@@xelectrix He's SO lucky!

[@Rose-yt5hi]

@@immapotato1Lots of people play sports or engage in physical exercise after work… just usually not till 11:00 and especially not with a spouse at home. Lol

[@AusExplorer]

@@immapotato1 Used to play squash in the evening, though not to 11 as the place was closed by then in those days. This chick should have just gone along to his games/practice without telling him, would have sorted it out right away.

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

That one comment about the second OP was harsh but so, so true. Her ex wasn’t subtle whatsoever, anyone with half a brain could see though his shoddy lies as if they were looking at the Las Vegas Sphere

[@Mia-dt3gl]

OP in Story 2 should tell her stbx that he’s just like his father. That will hurt him more than anything.

[@301Goldstar]

Like father like son.

[@levtieart3409]

Tbh it wouldn't do anything They be upset for a second then oh no anyway and continue 0 reflection etc tonnot be like father

[@shebakoby]

story 1: had some super duper "Missing Missing Reasons" when it comes to why OP was estranged from her mother (the Grandma to the daughter). She should have clarified that, because it would have made a difference if the reason they were estranged was the grandma did something bad. While this doesn't seem to be the case, you never know.

[@CreditR01]

1 - No parent should be demanding their child isolate themselves or cut contact with other family members like that because of their own drama. OP didn't allow anything to be about her kids because of her own issues. Divorce sucks for everyone but the least you can do is be a grown-up about it and not force your kids to pick sides. I hope OP respects her daughter's wishes and perhaps she can salvage her relationship with her youngest. Some hurts just go too deep. When my parents got divorced I had to find out on my own what a worthless man my father was while I hated my mom through most of it. She's forgiven me. Kids can come around, but you need to give them time and NOT force things.

[@rubymeaddle]

It really depends on why OP is estranged from her mom If the grandma, for example, protected the family pedophile: absolutely valid to demand loyalty

[@slothisasin8240]

​@@rubymeaddle That is possible, but based on the post it's quite a jump. Yes, plenty of people condone predators but plenty of people also mistreat their loved ones, refuse to listen and then get surprized when they get cut off.

[@hoper1294]

No. Op isn't young and naive in the last story, she's just....not smart to put it lightly. "I want a divorce" "We need to go to therapy before discussing kids" "I told him I'm done" "I cried and begged for him"x2!!!! Op needs to stay far away from dating for a while and get a bigger back bone

[@JadedJada]

I really hope the 2nd OP just leaves and doesn't confront her husband, because he sounds HIGHLY abusive and I worry he may do something violent.

[@kecward78]

Story 1: Without knowing the reasons behind the NC with her daughter, estrangement from mother and why limited with her ex-, it appears that OP is the problem here. It was the daughter's choice who to invite, and then they would decide who comes. Even OP's new husband thought she was wrong. Sounds like OP is a bad mom, but that could stem from her upbringing with her mom, hence the estrangement. I'd leave it as OP is the a-hole. After comments and OP's reflection, at least she's trying to improve. I wish her luck.

[@LisaApril]

I Would've told my divorce lawyer everything on that last story and let the lawyers private investigator get the proof. They are professionals and they don't mess up usually. Her doing it is too risky As she's personally involved and her husband will recognize her as will the affair partner.

[@MoMo420]

Story 1: As dirty as my ex did me, I still was cordial with him for the sake of our daughters. We went to school events together, took pictures and sometimes we all went to eat after those events. It didn’t make him any less of an asshole but my daughter’s mean more to me than my distain for him. OP is petty and childish! I didn’t always get along with my dad but we finally started getting along after I had my children and he apologized for some hurtful things he said to me. I still would not have stopped him from coming to those special moments my girls had or put my girls in a position to have to choose.

[@charliedelfino2102]

Story 2: The first time he forgot to say he went to the ER is something you could get over. But it happening more than once (every time) and he forgets to tell you every time? Nah.

[@filipebarroqueiro7262]

Story 1 actions meet consequences but at least op SEEMS remorseful....seems

[@colleens1107]

Umm, sooo hubby flat out said the marriage is over and then gets mad that OP finally grew a fucking spine and left? Ok I think I know why. He was negging her to basically wipe away what was left of her self esteem, after weeks of this mind fuck he will tell her EXACTLY what she needs to do to keep the prize that is him, coerce her into having his child and then the REAL ABUSE will begin. I realized this when he said she didn’t need to go back to her family…of course he wouldn’t want that, that would be support FOR HER and a place to escape him. OP needs to get therapy to learn what a caring partner looks like and definitely divorce this man. And ffs get on the pill yesterday

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

Oh, look, OP had a moment of enlightenment! How wonderful. Hopefully, some day, she will get to a better place & so will her relationship with her kids!

[@maxsupernova]

Story 1: That original post was just full of missing reasons, wasn't it? What is strange is that OOP seems to have actually realized there were missing reasons. That normally doesn't happen.

[@Shangori]

Going from the update it seem op from the first story is on the road to redemption. Something impossible if she truly was a narcissist. I think it's sooner a case of being a spoiled and bitter person that lashed out at people around her for various reasons. I do think it's too late for her and I hope she keeps on this road despite that. The future would look brighter for her either way if doing so.

[@xplayfan21]

Is there any way for her to get her daughter to come around gently or is it too late

[@damien678]

​@@xplayfan21 If she keeps up doing good by the last kid she has contact with, there's honestly a pretty decent chance that the others may want to talk to her again in the future. I've been NC and LC with my mum. We had an incredibly rocky relationship. But, what got me to not continue LC was her telling me she's in therapy and the way she talked obviously being a result of that.

[@TheIronwil]

Unfortunately some people can’t get past their own egos long enough to understand that not everything is about them. Her daughter’s graduation was NOT about OP, but she made it that way, and doubled down when people told her she was wrong. My own mother went this way. I told her repeatedly she was on thin ice with her BS she was trying to start with my wife, but she persisted. We haven’t spoken in 5 years, and that isn’t going to change. Sometimes the bridge is simply burnt beyond repair.

[@mikehilbert9349]

Story 1: interesting how the OP thought that her daughter was being petty about the past, but she was still NC with her own mother and refused to let her go to the graduation

[@darklightmagus1222]

Story 2: I knew he was lying when the pattern home late started with an office excuse and then moved on to medical excuses from playing volleyball. Just an FYI for the ladies. If your husband wants to play sports, ask where he will be practicing or playing. Be the good wife and say you want to cheer for him (even if you don't like the sport). If he asks why you need to know his location, it is simple. You need to know where he is at in case of an emergency so that he can be found if something happens to you or you can find him if something happens with one of his family members and a family member only managed to reach you. You do not have to go to every practice. In fact, only randomly go and periodically bring a Gatorade and a protein bar. If he's actually being good, he will appreciate your efforts and return the gesture and put effort into the relationship himself by trying to be with you more. If he is not being faithful, he will come up with every excuse not to have you at his practices and games. If he is actually playing sports but is using it to avoid you, it will show on his face that he sees you as an annoyance each time you come around to watch him play. In which case the result is the same and you should leave as he doesn't want you anymore.

[@mbyerly9680]

That last story was all over the place, and things like the military were thrown in as an afterthought.

[@jakemarie828]

Markee! You're back! We missed you 😊❤

[@amyyaku5022]

S1: YES YTA. The moment OP said her daughter had "petty teenage drama" I knew OP was the jerk here and I was proven right with the graduation. I'm glad OP realized their behavior. Though with the graduation while I understand where the daughter is coming from, I think it's unrealistic to expect her parents to sit together or spend time together when it sounds like they didn't split on the best of terms (my parents have been separated for years and I'm not gonna expect them both to sit next to each other for any reason or hang out at all. It's just wrong to me).

[@jasminerobertson4913]

But not even pictures separately?? Are they adults??

[@ndawn90]

I disagree. I think that putting your relationship drama aside and being cordial enough to sit next to each other for a few hours and be polite for your child/ren isn't that big of an ask. Even if you're exes, that person is still the mother/father of your child/ren. That right there deserves a level of dignity and respect, and your children should be the priority. Grow TF up and exist in the same space for a few hours. It's really not that big of an ask. And I say this as someone whose parents separated due to my dad cheating and going to prison, but despite all of that my mom put her issues aside and let him and my aunt stay in her home for a long weekend so that he could attend my sister's 10th anniversary party. If they can do that, then I really don't see how other people can't be cordial to one another for two freaking hours.

[@pippo17173]

@@jasminerobertson4913 When it comes to divorce, its an expected outcome that happens 9/10 and most of the time, its always gonna be childish.

[@WadeAlma]

​@@ndawn90Your mom sounds like a carpet. You inherited that quality.

[@kiki2517]

I had an similar story to the first one except for it was my favorite aunt. She got pissed because I had invited my dad to my high school graduation instead of my cousins (I intended on inviting my cousins, I just needed to get more tickets). At the time, my dad and I were working on rebuilding our relationship and I really wanted him there. My aunt was so mad that she ended up not attending my graduation and I never forgave her for that. I’m glad i invited my dad though because he passed away later that year while I was away in college.

[@TheRisky9]

Story 2: My mother did that. She would go out and play her sport up until 10pm. Sometimes my brothers and I would have youth group stuff to attend and she wouldn't come and pick us up. Dad worked second shift. Lots of emergency calls to aunts and uncles. And she would get mad at the coach for "keeping" her there rather than being an adult and saying, "Yeah, I gotta go get my kids." Literally, no one in the United States would tell you "No" if you ever said you had to go pick up your kids. It made you feel like you're not allowed to have anything important. When you're a kid you can't build your own life without support. That's why it's so important that kids come first. I'm glad I was able to build whatever life I could. And no, my mom and I don't have much of a relationship. We don't have anything really in common.

[@juliearmfield2634]

Story 1. Yta. If not only one of your kids go no contact with you but three of your kids go no contact with you and your fourth is on the verge of it you are the huge a****** problem and the source of the problem

[@velentr]

Story 1 OP has gone no contact with her own mother, yet cant believe her own daugter "cant get over the past" 🤡

[@NeloBladeOfRanni]

Tbf it depends what the OPs own mother did that caused her daughter to go no contact with her

[@lindsayjmolina]

That background is so lovely. I love all your backgrounds.

[@patty-pat-pat]

S1: Idk what's going on with OP here, but a narcissist she is NOT. Narcissist dont self reflect. At all! The fact she's willing to work on her relationship with her kids, do therapy AND asks for other ppls help and input, means she is not a narc. I wonder if Mom is so traumatized by her own childhood (with her mother) it affected her bond with her own children. I wonder if it's 'Cold mother syndrom'; a mother who exhibits emotional distance, lack of affection, and a restricted capacity to respond to her child's emotional needs, often caused by her own upbringing. Never learned how to listen, respond & bond.

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Couch story has more updates. Spoiler alert: It doesn’t get better.

[@filipebarroqueiro7262]

Couch... story?

[@Markee]

I like to live in a world where we only had the first update and not the rest of the story 😅

[@yeetthechild7767]

Holy shit I just read them, I’m honestly worried about her.

[@carolroberts4614]

Does anyone have a link or title? I'm not on Reddit.

[@maurer3d]

Story 2 (before update): Umm, are you sure there is a "sport", because this sounds more like an affair? Story 2 (update): Sorry to hear, but yes he has been cheating since he started this "sport" (assuming there is a sport at all). Divorce his ass take half his crap. This is why you shouldn't get married at 18, especially to a military man.

[@taurus3alexis]

Hell I really didn’t want my father at my graduation, but he was there sitting on the opposite of my mom and stepdad

[@loganjoh1]

Story 2: the fact that this dude said that he took one person to the hospital after he bashed his head and not long after says someone else got a seizure like nah those are some of the worst lies I have ever heard that close to each other and it’s Volleyball?

[@HonorWillow]

Story 1: it depends on WHY she’s no contact but because there’s no reason listed I’m assuming it’s not justifiable, because if it was abuse ABSOLUTELY the daughter would be the AH for hanging out and asking OP to hang out with their abuser(s) but OP surely would have stated that

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

"I begged and begged..." For what? A continued relationship with man who treats you like less than trash and uses fear of him leaving to coerce you into doing what he wants? Look, the fact that you even felt the need to beg this man to stay with you when _he's_ the one doing f*cked up stuff speaks volumes about your self-respect, none of it good. He's not worth wasting your effort and dignity on. Go find a man who is.

[@owl7072]

"Everything hasn't been about you so you're threatening me!" Boy I'M about to threaten you! She asked you to pick her up from work, you know since you're using _her_ car, and you whined because you wanted to go play a game instead. What's gonna be the difference between staying married and getting divorced when you hardly see her anyway and whine about doing the most basic, minor things for her like pick her up since you're using the only car and _actually coming home when you said you would?_ Edit: "If he likes something, he continues doing it" except his wife apparently Edit 2: Him: You hurt me! There's no chance of fixing our marriage! Op: Fine. _leaves_ Him: _shocked Pikachu face_ How could you! I knew you wouldn't do what I asked! Boy what did you ask when you've been nothing but a cruel little shit.

[@historictruecrime5119]

I’m a little suspicious of all the “injuries“ that these teammates are supposedly getting that’s keeping him at the hospital for all hours. That alone should be a reason enough for him to reconsider the sport.

[@TheIronwil]

Sporty Divorce: I’m going with NTA here. Firstly… NO ONE plays a sport for 4-6 hours a day, unless that sport involves a lot of sitting around, or they’re pro athletes who practice multiple times per day. I used to be in a Kung-fu performance group, and would practice about 3 hours per day. It was grueling. It’s also beyond suspicious that they’ve now had two serious medical issues that made OP’s husband unreachable for hours. I’m not buying any of this.

[@nicolasfrazier170]

I’ve heard story 1 before. OP 1 is a terrible person who got everything she deserved. Screw her.

[@taylorlibby7642]

She seems very self-involved. A "rules for thee but not for me" kind of person.

[@mikehilbert9349]

Story 2: it is either cheating or pickle ball, both are equally evil

[@alicewilloughby4318]

Story 1 - 2:03 - OP, you are estranged from you mother. You divorced your husband and wouldn't even sit near him for your daughter's big day. You have been estranged from your daughter for five years. What/who is the comon denominator here? 2:08 - You asked your daughter to go NC with her grandmother, whom she clearly loves, just to support your NC? Story 2 - I dunno, first he's late home because a fellow player "bashed his head," then he's late home because a fellow player "had a sezure". It could be true, but it feels like a bit much. Later - Yup. These "injuries" were BS, and the "sport" was BS, and Hubs is a POS.

[@Palkiana]

The sad part is she went through it with her mom too, but that’s how it goes. My grandma put my mom through hell and she put me through hell as well. Generational trauma is a bitch

[@SweatyGreaseMan]

So glad to see you back markee

[@iH4teUrGutZ]

me too!

[@carolroberts4614]

Same here!

[@KE-hr4sb]

S2: Maybe I'm just jaded but...he left his phone in his car while at the ER? So he couldn't even play on it while in the waiting room? Sounds sus to me. "He says I don't understand what it's like to want to be better at something." Response: "I'm trying to be better at our marriage, but you seem uninterested and want me to actually schedule time to see you?" He's having an affair. "Guy I played with had a seizure." Sounds like this group needs supervision and an on-hand medic. Maybe you should start offering to go to his so-called "games." Interesting to see what he says. Color me shocked, another abusive, cheating military spouse. Report both of them and go scorched earth. He had the audacity to tell you you weren't good enough to stay with but got mad if you left? The mind games...

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

Story 1: While OP actually learned that she royally fucked up, it's clear that OP's Ex-husband is to blame on equal footing in this family's disintegration. I am not confident OP will be able to restore her relationship with her kids, but the fact she is endeavoring to be better is, and always will be, worthwhile regardless of the perspective of others.

[@groofromtheup5719]

nah. she let the Covid fear-mongering drive a wedge between her and one of her two remaining children. She may regret what happened, but she isn't repentant about her actions. It is still "her way or the highway" with her.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

​@@groofromtheup5719 And you reached this conclusion, how?

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement She literally said her kid went NC with her after a big blow-up because he was a "Covid Denier"

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

You do realize that was an ancillary issue, right?

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement no, it isn't. It shows a continuing pattern of behavior. She is still willing to drive her children out of her life for petty reasons.

[@TheHollowFoundation]

i’m military myself and I would let OP know if you can, I’m not on Reddit, that she needs to be advised that if he is actually cheating the military courts do not recognize prenups. So if this leads to divorce and a prenup is in place she can escalate it to his chain of command and the prenup will be made null and void. furthermore, she needs to be made aware that cheating can lead to you UCMJ action against him if this is within the United States. 18:02

[@vinnie6604]

Yes and a big one. You didn't t have to talk to anyone and could have taken photos. It was not your celebration, it was HER graduation. How selfish could you get. Sincerely apologize to your daughter.

[@DisneyChar]

S2 maybe it has ssomething to do with him constantly lying to you, and then stealing your car.

[@DominosAndHearts]

Story 1- the mum is the asshole, regardless how SHE feels about other family members, its daughters graduation to have who she wants there, not mums choice- don't blame the daughter if you can't put YOUR feelings aside to support your daughter for one day. As for the update I don't blame the daughter or any of the children

[@Kris-wo4pj]

See i can agree with this to a point but my grandmother tried multiple times to kill my mom when she was a child cuz she was high all the time. My mom only talks to her mom on the phone if something is happening with her sister or aunts(like one died recently). My aunt went no contact with my grandma for similar reasons. The issue is that my grandma is well a good grandma very supportive and loving. My mom hates that i have a good relationship with her but didnt tell me until i turned an adult to tell me why she hated it. Now i feel extremely guilt for making my mom spend time with her. I still see my grandma but id never force my mom to. Hell my grandma wants to move closer to me to see me more and ive been subtly making sure its not too close to my mom so they wont have to see each other. My grandma has no idea why her kids hate her but everyone else is surprised they let us grandkids around her. Hell i dont even get upset my mom wants to do seperate things to make sure her mother in law isnt in the same room with her cuz they both hate each other so much. Difference is her mother in law tries to turn us grown kids against my mom so we see why she cant stand her from childhood. So i wanna know why shes no contact with her mom. Is it petty or something valid like how my mom's situations are?

[@christiankucera7730]

ABOUT DAMN TIME! I was having withdrawal symptoms without a new markee vid.

[@Nicholem718-1]

I get so annoyed when people plead with their partners to stay. It’s cringeworthy. Think about it- if you are done with a relationship and the other person begs you to stay, how would that make you feel? It would annoy me. That is it. If ever I was with someone and they told me they didn’t want me, I’d be out before they could continue with any related dictum.

[@paulchaudoir190]

No man is willing to play a sport that much unless he's getting paid to do it. Especially a married man. At first I thought the side piece was going to be a guy. The weird vibe I had was wrong though.

[@demanded17]

"Bashed his head on a pole." As someone who's played vball for over 25 years, yeah no. 😆

[@kamicokrolock]

Um OP: you're estranged from your mom, your daughter, two other children, and your ex, I see a common denominator here. YTA

[@mzjones333]

Most teenage grievances that parents don't think are serious or important are the very reason they have NC or LC with their children 🎉😊

[@kyriacarica5862]

Welcome back, Markee! ❤🎉 enjoy the rest of your vacation!

[@holyek7892]

LoL. Sports at 1 am? LoL the sport is lasting the longest during cheating.

[@kavertia6261]

Kinda unrelated to the content but I LOVE this background!!

[@littlegreycat]

14:03 not matter what she is not a priority to her husband. Since she's so ready with divorce and they have past issues maybe the divorce is a long time coming.

[@roenfinch9057]

I lost it at markee's little "gymnastics" comment

[@CareyBilley]

S2 He's prioritizing his needs over yours, end it.

[@CareyBilley]

His CO will be very interested because this reflects on his character as a person, I wouldn't want to share a foxhole with someone that cheats on his wive.

[@ngjuicey2001]

Hooray! Markee is okay! Hope you had a good time off. 😊

[@Letha-AnnCooper]

It doesn’t sound like hubby is playing a sport at all.Hire a detective most branches of the military frown on infidelity amongst the troops. It can be punished severely

[@oliviagore7067]

Yeah, those late nights leaving your phone? Been there, honey.

[@tigernotwoods914]

Story 1: you didn’t accidentally log into anything. You were away for a while you were curious, so you decided to login after the fact and see what answers came in. You didn’t accidentally do shit stop the cap. As far as one of those earlier answers, that’s a bunch of crap too because you’re gonna sit there and he gave very generous child support. Yeah so you’re already ahead of most kids they get nothing not to mention even back in the 80s it was rare for the guy to leave 80% is initiated by the woman she’s the one that’s leaving so I’m glad he found a lawyer and didn’t get stuck with alimony because it shouldn’t even exist in the first place so that’s all stop the cap please

[@RealAnimeBadGuy]

Volleyball is a hell of a sport and it takes a lot of skills. And I am guilty of being at the gym until 1 or 3am after going at 10pm but I've built loads of solid muscle. Not cheating this guy is cheating.

[@codex_jinora]

You're back! yay!

[@KadeStringer2.0]

Story 1 : NTA and op made a simple mistake

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

Elaborate.

[@kateajurors8640]

Honestly I would possibly side with the mom but her lack of saying why she went no contact with the Grandma why she went no contact with the dad what happened around those and any other situations other than the graduation situation and calling it a teenage child grievance when it was a college graduation definitely screams missing missing reasons😂😂😂 Like she's obviously trying to paint herself in the best light and we're all a little biased towards ourselves even if we think we're the a****** in trying to get Advice. But she won't justify why she's got no contact with her old mother the child's grandmother who the child said supported her throughout all of University. Also why wasn't the mom OP supporting her throughout university?

[@josepherhardt164]

3:36 Er, WHO gets a publicly-funded lawyer for divorce proceedings? AFAIK, publicly-funded lawyers are only for criminal cases. However, if someone here knows, I'm willing to be educated. 10:41 "... someone bashed their head and they took him to the ER. He left the phone in the car ..." Yeah, right. 12:33 Divorce the jerk. You'll feel better. Get checked for STD's and if it's your place, change the locks.

[@crichtonbruce4329]

At least here in Canada there are organizations, some govt. funded through grants, that will provide legal services to people without resources. Plus lawyers can be assigned by the courts (not sure of all the rules though). For example a friend of mine is involved in a custody fight with his Ex-wife and, as she is on welfare, she has a lawyer who is payed for through a Government program. I'm aware that there are (mostly privately funded) woman's support organizations in the US that can provide free legal service.

[@josepherhardt164]

@@crichtonbruce4329 Thanks for the info. THAT makes a bit of sense.

[@chazm9458]

Story 1 OP must be an incredibly toxic person. She only found fault in her actions. Once she lost her mother, her husband and all of her children. Glad she is taking responsibility, but it sounds like it is a little too late. She is going to be one of those women that will die alone and nobody will find her body until her neighbors start complaining of the smell. Story 2 I feel like there is a lot of information missing. OP starts the post with saying that they have been toxic to each other and that she is in the wrong as well. What has she been doing for her to call herself toxic as well? I don't condone cheating, but it is clear that both of them don't want to be around each other. Divorce is definitely for the best.

[@libertyblake873]

Re: the sport. Wife should attend practices and games.

[@Uneclipsed]

On the sport story: honestly, I thought this was a cover for drugs. The hours sound bizarre for a hobby league.

[@carlrood4457]

I've heard this one before and always think the same thing: Estranged from her mother and her daughter. What's the common denominator?

[@zerobolt9506]

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN (said in Miss Wesley's voice) na but seriously I've been concerned

[@reginarainer9740]

OP is trying to spin this to make themselves look better, but even with the vague details you can get part if the picture of why the daughter is NC. I doubt those ‘petty teenager’ problems were petty or just the daughter being a teenager. She’s on AITA to find validation for the fact that she made her daughter’s graduation all about her and her grudges against her family.

[@NickanM]

Sooo... _She hated her ex husband & the k7ds grandmother more than she loved her daughter._ 😢

[@judithjeffers7666]

He’s lying.

[@brittaniharold1880]

Story 1 YTA.You made everything about you.

[@Swamp_Queen]

It does kind of bother me that nobody asked OOP in story one why she is no contact with her mother. Sometimes it IS valid to ask children and other family members to cut contact with someone for your sake. I will say based on her wording im guessing it wasn't valid but i just don't get why nobody asked.

[@katphish30]

Hey, welcome back!

[@SPN-Raptor]

Unrelated question to the stories: where's the spoopy background??

[@hanoh2904]

I hope things never work out between them. The mother would never change. It's not covid. She's simply a shitty parent. Every child of her doesn't want her. Did she really need strangers to tell her that?

[@judithjeffers7666]

He’s got a side piece

[@simac8396]

Who plays volleyball till 1 am every night? This girl is super niave.

[@marlinfrank1362]

Volleyball? Volleyball??!!

[@carolroberts4614]

That's what they're calling it now???

[@ItsjustJayxcer]

Story 2, I was with until she said it was volleyball. Sorry maam but he belongs to the court now, it's no one's fault 🙏🏾 /j

[@eleanoraddy4683]

Cheating or drugs

[@Makewell_catto]

is that a new mic? sounds great!!

[@Markee]

Just out of the house for a few days 😅

[@kimsvisualdiary]

The OP in story 1 is such a selfish POS.

[@quartzskull8772]

No shit Sherlock

[@milky1234123]

Can you provide link for background of video?

[@gag141]

So did she stay with him. I ff after the 3rd begging and pleading

[@dazzysomo5411]

Irs been a min marke😢

[@marktwain2053]

2. Possibly the AH. I get a very strong hint that OP isn't giving us the whole story. She says she likes to hang out with him on the weekends? Doing what? My son would stay out late after work because my daughter-in-law is bi-polar, and he never knew what he was coming home to. Could the "sport" just be an excuse to avoid the same maltreatment at home? It's unlikely that OP is going to open up about that, but jumping straight to divorce make me a bit suspicious that it may be the case. Either I missed something, or there was an abrupt change in stories, because I don't recall anything about volleyball guy being military.