Law Student Sent To Ex-Gay Therapy, Puts Counselor to Shame.

[@RobMacKendrick]

I'm straight. I like women. And to be completely honest, if someone interrogated me and asked "why do you like women?" I would have no clue what to say. It's just always been that way. I just do. I have no interest in men. And no amount of "conversion therapy" is going to change that. My point is, sometimes "why" is a stupid question.

[@enderwiggins8248]

I think that’s a good attitude. No one can really answer why they love the people they love or why they enjoy the things they enjoy. Looking for some rationalization is both trivializing and futile

[@ajromero3692]

Agreed; I'm an entire homosexual and I've been asked that annoying question, "How do you find men attractive?" so many times. I mean...how do you even answer that? I guess it would have something to do with my brain being wired in a way that makes adult male attributes erotically stimulating to me and not adult female attributes but when I've used that as an answer, people still aren't satisfied. I've often found that the people who ask that question are assuming that everyone is naturally heterosexual but, at some point, I just woke up one day and was like, "You know...I think I'm going to start being attracted to men..." which, obviously, has been the case for exactly 0% of people. This question is just a troll question IMO. If you asked someone 'Why is your favorite color red?" or "Why is your favorite movie genre horror?" you run into the same wall. Why does anyone enjoy any of the things they do? I understand the fascination in figuring out what makes people like certain things (I love learning what makes people tick) but expecting them to answer that themselves is kind of a fool's errand.

[@jinhitenthusiast2407]

@@ajromero3692 that you just said is so true, like I'm a girl, and I like girls more than men, I have always been attracted to girls since I was little, I even had my first kiss with a girl For me it was not a big deal at all, and when people say it's a trend? I'm like WTF, how about being straight is the norm and this is actually the trend! If you're born a girl, since birth they'll say you'll marry your prince one day and vice versa if you're a boy. Anyway, live your life the way you want bro❤️be happy

[@saphired02]

@@ajromero3692 when I was younger I couldn't understand how someone could be attracted to other males so I asked my teacher( who was gay) how can you be attracted to a guy? And he was like why are you attracted to women? And I could not answer that so I said "that's a good point". And I realized we don't have a choice and we're just born the way we are.

[@hannahnock6894]

I actually had a expirence like this in school and it opened my eyes to how people think I'm bisexual and when the kids in my class found out one boy said while we had a free class said "it's discusting, how can you kiss girls? It's just wrong" I was taken back and kinda laughed looked him dead in the eyes and asked "how and why do u kiss girls?" he laughed and said cause their hot with a dead pan face I raised one of my eyebrows at him with the look and said well "nah stupid same thing for me" and I saw the light turn on the realisation in his face. This guy was not being Crual he wasnt being mean but he really didn't know, he didn't even realised he had asked the right question actually ask the question he Nedd to help him understand till he asked it. He never made to connection that it's the same thing I looked around the classroom and realised oh Holy craaapp NO One had made this connection the surprise and and realisation on my classmates faces was kinda terrorfying my sexuallity stopped being a thing quickly after this. I wasn't the only gay in the class tho I was the only out at the time but it didn't stay that way for long and I like to think I helped the others relax alittle. My class was pritty cool once they calmed down hahahahha

[@dmax7400]

Ex-Gay Counselor: **brings up the Roman Empire** Scott: "You activated my trap card."

[@AstroChaiTea]

T r a p C a r d

[@joankney8484]

🤣

[@nbaybbreastsaccount878]

@@AstroChaiTea " _I M S T R A I G H T T H E R E F O R E A N Y T H I N G T H A T M A K E S M Y D I C K H A R D I S A W O M A N_ " - Johnny Bravo

[@drug-man]

lmao

[@eliseleonard7556]

LOL gotta love common sense ❤️

[@Valdagast]

I think the fall of the Roman empire was less about homosexuality and more about their sixty-year civil war.

[@f_USAF-Lt.G]

But I'm pretty sure the bloody history of Roman Catholicism was from Nero and Roman Candles, beyond the times Jesus had to retreat away from those that would do him harm of his own people - while under Roman conquer/occupation. What did the Romans do during Greek Rule? They adopted everything Greek and set out to be agency of wealth and power, sell it better than the Greeks, to almost inherently own both... (In case the "When in Rome" saying comes up) starting Bysantine only to end Bysantine

[@Valdagast]

@Kata List Productions how so? the only candidate is Elagabalus, and he was a terrible emperor with or without a skirt.

[@amywalker7515]

and the corruption of their leaders, sort of like what is going on today.

[@Valdagast]

@@amywalker7515 If you have any data that shows that homosexuality or transsexuality was behind the fall of the Roman Empire (not just that there were Emperors that were homosexuals or transsexuals, but that _this_ specifically caused the downfall of the Empire), feel free to share. Just remember that correlation does not prove causation.

[@amywalker7515]

Valdagast: i didn't say a single word about homosexuality. I said corruption

[@Yelloweyedrobo]

Imagine fucking Harvard university calling you up and saying “your gay son is great at what he does and we want to offer him a place” and the main thing you take away is “I have a gay son”

[@Bemenhorst]

And people still argue religion does no harm in modern society…

[@Happyduderawr]

Honestly the thing i'd take away is why the hell is Harvard bringing gayness into it.

[@danashull3208]

@@HappyduderawrThey didn’t. This young man did.

[@Marqan]

Well, they probably knew or suspected the other parts of that sentence, only the "gay" was new to them.

[@gibby9215]

@@HappyduderawrI know it's been a while since you've received any form of education, but collegiate organizations are often formed to create opportunities for students who are at risk of marginalization in their future desired career paths.

[@gkanvik1]

"why are you gay?" "Because I like men" "Why do you like men?" "Cause I am gay" Lol.

[@sandraharrison5441]

3019 You should know know about shit on dicks? You’re the life of the party!!!

[@hamrunizspar1]

Greg Kanvik. Be careful which men you like. Remember, if a gay man does not fancy you, you may as well not exist as far as he's concerned.

[@imiguifurr]

Attraction and likes and dislikes are not rational...

[@hamrunizspar1]

Can you knot? 'Attraction and likes and dislikes are not rational...' Sounds very deep if impenetrable. Try again.

[@grimble4564]

@@hamrunizspar1 They aren't logical though. They're feelings, and feelings are the least rational aspect of human beings. The first rule of productive conversation is don't let feelings cloud your ability to think logically.

[@bulldozer8950]

This guy goes into a therapy session, leaves diagnosing the therapist as ignorant.

[@tborody]

Amazing that you can work at the top law school in the world and have no logical thinking skills.

[@TRafael82]

@@tborody they are put there for that very reason so they can be manipulated easy.

[@bly2790]

Wdym no logical thinking skills People argue that it’s wrong to be gay because it’s”unnatural” yet there are many animals that are gay If we suppress gays right to be attracted to who they’re attracted to then they’ll be hurt greatly psychologically So what people want to do is hurt people because it interferes with their morals which were conjured up in religions made hundreds of years ago when slavery was still a thing

[@halburtonwarrington-minge3434]

That was a therapy session?????????. Ought to be sued for malpractice in the first degree.

[@lb456]

@@tborody That's what Christianity does to people. Makes far too many of them ignorant sheep, who don't care to practice real thinking. They're scared.

[@eurie1383]

This kid was a law student and they really thought they could out argue him

[@thefortunateson5593]

As a law student I can confirm, I think most of us who do it really just like arguing and debating lol

[@Luane_Lau]

@ned seldera You've got to be joking. Are you serious?

[@thefortunateson5593]

@ned seldera first off. Where exactly is the agenda behind homosexuality? Because I didnt know I was part of some sort of clan.. second off are you for or against homosexuality because your first message made it seem like your for then you go on to say that your second message may get deleted for being against it. And third, I'm just saying if you truly want people to listen, you need people to come up with a better reason than to say its morally wrong because of the religious prospect. Because the bible says so doesnt mean that its morally wrong, and I'd like for you to explain otherwise if you truly believe so. (The bible says the cross weaving of fabrics is wrong and personally I dont see where that is morally wrong either).

[@thefortunateson5593]

@ned seldera can I ask the question of whether your only against it because of religion or are there any moral reasons with actual backing which dont have any religious reasons behind them that you have against homosexuality?

[@thefortunateson5593]

@ned seldera and yes easily. It causes another pain and suffering. It harms those who love that person emotionally. It has absolutely no positives and outweigh the negatives of causing pain and ending ones life....

[@JJ-in3bc]

A straight friend of mine said to me once, "I never DECIDED to be straight, I just always was... why do people think gays pick being gay." 😮 I thought that was beautiful & honest.

[@gavingotback]

Gayyyyy

[@Windowsprodukt]

some people like men, some people like women. How is that even a complicated issue?

[@MrAntfreak]

I think if you are gay or bi and are deeply in the closet and chose to be with the opposite gender only you might get to the conclusion that its a choice

[@jonahshriver1682]

​@@WindowsproduktBecause people want to interface very personal inclinations and issues with their own egos, culture, and belief system. It's the same reason racism and war exists. It's in human nature to criticize what's outside our understanding, and try to control and fit it into our comprehension. A lot of folks don't have the capacity to think beyond different = bad

[@0celot9]

Yeah reactionary politics. They dont want to understand things, just see different and say bad

[@shailejanarain]

"Mom I'm gay." "I wanna run this car in a tree." "Let me out and go right ahead." Lmfao savage

[@shudhanshuverma8244]

@@Hjaelteomslag yes, you are gtfo

[@Tnargav]

@@Hjaelteomslag Ah, because it's all about her. What a bad person.

[@Tnargav]

@@Hjaelteomslag Tell that to all the people abused in their families.

[@miconis123]

@@Hjaelteomslag Everything she's worked for is gone?! Her son just got accepted to one of the top law schools, he's charismatic, a good speaker, and self confident! What the actual fuck is she losing that she's worked for?! That her son won't let her treat him as a doll or toy? Fuck that

[@miconis123]

@@Tnargav True. It's funny how "family and loyalty" only seems to be expected one way. Where is their loyalty to their kid? The mom wanted to kill them both on finding out that he's gay makes her a horrible person and undeserving of loyalty.

[@waldofound8212]

“That makes me wanna drive into a tree.” “Well could let me out before you do that...” This man really is a lawyer!

[@esobelisk3110]

CHINA !!!!! wot

[@glenncater1]

@@esobelisk3110 WHAT DO YOU THINK ?

[@esobelisk3110]

CHINA !!!!! Literally what does that video have to do with anything?

[@glenncater1]

@@esobelisk3110 DID YOU WATCH IT ?? THEN YOU WOULD KNOW !

[@esobelisk3110]

CHINA !!!!! It’s a clip of an old documentary about a tribe in Africa ... he’s a gay american law student.

[@jackthefrog80085]

"why are you attracted to men?" "Have you seen Chris hemsworth shirtless?"

[@jonathanfoster4202]

Ik for a fact any self respecting straight man would say yes to go on a date with chris hemsworth

[@BASEBALLHISTOR]

Ur fukn nasty ..

[@TheDragonshadow1231]

@@BASEBALLHISTOR lols

[@dealcasino_]

Your not wrong

[@jackthefrog80085]

@@jonathanfoster4202 I'm attracted to girls and Chris hemsworth specifically so yes

[@alpaga4820]

Oh my god the AIDS part is so sad though. Like imagine seeing all your friends dieing around you and instead of realising it's mainly because you were all part of a marginalised community that didn't get the care they needed because of discrimination, you get indoctrinated into thinking that it was actually a divine punishment... and for what sin ? For the sin loving amongst all... That must be quite terrible indeed.

[@DanaTheInsane]

I was in my teens and twenties during the aids crisis and that's JUST what they taught. The Regan Crowd called it "Gay Cancer". They were THRILLED it was killing gay people, its what they wanted to do themselves, and indeed still want today. They didn't do anything till it wound up in the blood supply and in drug users.

[@lrclouder8088]

Even if being gay is a sin, so is being hateful and judgemental towards others...

[@DickeyHebzynski-m5q]

@@alpaga4820 I'm 58 and lived through it. I never got HIV . Serial monogamy, and some luck. I remember the ACT UP marches. It was a dark time.

[@Quaticco]

yeah true

[@chickenpurple6704]

Did this therapist actually try to get into a debate with a harvard law student

[@lindsaygrose-harding1941]

Was he qualified? I’m sure he’s not!

[@chickenpurple6704]

@@lindsaygrose-harding1941 it literally said that he was a harvard law student in the vid lol

[@oxin1099]

@@chickenpurple6704 i think they meant the "therapist"

[@chickenpurple6704]

@@oxin1099 oh gotcha

[@rorypunnington359]

“therapist”

[@LoonyMooni]

Imagine having a son like him. Extremely intelligent, eloquent, self-sufficient and sophisticated. Having a kid like him is like winning the price at parenting

[@LoonyMooni]

@@mikeyooz ofc, we don't know him personally but it seems like that's a good goal

[@driley5004]

RIGHT

[@lilacblue3331]

What I like the most about him is the fact that he is not changing who he is because he knows he is not doing wrong. It can be easy to feel severe guilt over singing like this. Damn I'm proud of him

[@LoonyMooni]

@@lilacblue3331 I agree

[@richardcabanas1360]

@@lilacblue3331 agreed as well

[@kitsilanocat]

"let me get out of the car and you can go ahead" FKIN SAVAGE

[@kitsilanocat]

الإله الملحد idk somewhere at the beginning of the story.

[@kellycai5768]

1:08الإله الملحد

[@HexZatara]

Fredrick Nietzsche and how can you prove that? homosexuals never did show anything like that, they are perfectly fine just the way they are and nobody should be worried about who there sleeping with at all.

[@alekgoral9974]

+Mr. Green If God created everything, he created gays too. Since God is both infallible and omniscient, he knew he was creating gay people when he created the universe, and he did not make any mistakes. So are you saying God is imperfect? Or that He didn't know he was creating gays? In that case, the deity you believe in is not God.

[@TOPxCOMMENT]

noel samoth I had this conversation with my Christian cousin and this is his rebuttle. "The only man who is perfect, and never commited a sin was Jesus Christ. We are all sinners who have free will and should want to change that if you believe in God. God doesn't hate gays (God doesn't hate anybody), But the bible does say sex should only be between a man and a women, so if you are gay, and believe in god, you should want to change for him." I don't know I just find that really fucked up.

[@dr.cheeze5382]

Ever notice how the moment these kinds of people have to talk to an even remotely smart person, their arguments just sort of crumble beneath their own weight?

[@solarias2583]

Everytime, every single time. Thought the first mention of the Roman empire I would have said, "Do you know where we get the word plumber from? It's from the Latin plumbium which was their word for lead. All other pipes were lead."

[@KevinShinwoo]

He's gotta be the only guy in the universe who was outted by Harvard.

[@duanedaxalexander]

Right??? That gets a low-key side-eye @ harvad from me. Then again, it’s one heck of a great story.

[@Warfoki]

@@duanedaxalexander I mean, not their fault: the guy gave his home phone as contact and registered as openly gay. How was Harward supposed to know?

[@ChocolateMuffin308]

@@Warfoki that doesn't mean that he's open to everyone. It's still a dangerous thing to tell people and you don't know what kind of relationship someone has with their parents. People of that age depend on their parents in many ways and can be hurt by them.

[@Warfoki]

@@ChocolateMuffin308 Well, if he didn't want Harward to contact her parents about the fund for gay people, maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have given their number as contact for it? Like, like seriously, he marked himself as openly gay AND gave the number for his parent's home to contact. What was the school supposed to do, send in a private investigator to see if the number given for contact by the guy is the number he wants to be contacted on? :D Let's not be ridiculous here.

[@siogbeagbideach]

@@Warfoki my daughters university would never talk to me without her saying okay, GDPR data protection in EU so maybe it's different in the States

[@randomvielleuse527]

If I had a child I'd want one just like this man: honest, empathetic, and kind.

[@TheRealMrCods]

He can be my Son any day, and I have 2 straight Sons and 2 straight daughters..........hmmm maybe 1 straight Daughter and one that hasnt made up her mind yet 💖

[@randomvielleuse527]

@@TheRealMrCods

[@PunguinYoga]

@@randomvielleuse527 Seriously, Felicia. I agree.

[@randomvielleuse527]

@@PunguinYoga

[@PunguinYoga]

@@randomvielleuse527 The longer I live, the more those traits impress me.

[@mrfashionguy1]

"Can you let me out of the car first, then go ahead" A B S O L U T E S A V A G E

[@marinataran7427]

He is a badass

[@solarmande]

Yeah this dude is fantastic. All the best my man!

[@mrsnakesmrnot8499]

The Catholic, superstitious mom had major issues.

[@mrsnakesmrnot8499]

fooloof - How can you be so sure? Don’t project yourself onto him. Everyone is different.

[@mrsnakesmrnot8499]

fooloof - Again, speak for yourself. Listen to how articulate this cat is at what is still a pretty young age. The story of which he speaks did not happen that long ago. Those speaking skills develop at a younger age.

[@gk9546]

My father (now retired army officer) always uses that arguement about the "destruction of the structure of society" and one time I sat with him forever trying to untangle that. I told him "what is that sacred structure?" He goes all out on the whole "Mariagge, kids, work, religion" etc.. So I tell him "then why do you oppose to people who fight for their right to get married, have kids, keep their jobs and actually be part of that same structure you're claiming they're destroying". That kinda put him into a rabbit hole. Because he was trying to use the "it's immoral" and I said that "morality" changes all the time except for this one thing. He went for the "it's not natural" and I explained to him that actually it's very natural. He said "kids watch them and get all confused" to which I replied "then why do the gay kids don't become straight by watching all the straights around them? In movies, shows, books, advertisements, their parents... Why are they still gay?" After that endless talk he finally admitted "I understand what you're saying, but still it doesn't feel right". To which I said "that's what being conditioned is. The logic is there, the arguments are all there but you still cannot accept it with reasons that are beyond logic. Just a "feeling". And that feeling is usually cultivated and it's either hate or fear". He literally said "let's just agree to disagree" and I realised that he would never ever accept me.

[@_Ardo]

It's horrible how he can't get past his prejudice even though you presented him with such spot-on arguments. I hope you're doing great, and maybe one day he'll truly understand that this conversation was to make him a better person who's able to see his child as they are.❤‍🩹

[@glisteninggames2981]

humans are also the only homophobic species on planet earth

[@bobthet-rex2718]

This man is so witty and sassy, yet he is very polite, calm, and forgiving. He's the type of man I want to be.

[@shadrach6299]

I love his confidence and his acceptance of his sexuality.

[@ceciliacorina]

He the type of man I want to be WITH 😉 but can’t sadly lol

[@aaasmr6934]

Tbh if you called him sassy he’d probably verbally destroy you

[@acidicrainbow7754]

@@ceciliacorina Same...😟

[@mariekyslingerova4505]

👍

[@neilruston8796]

"Why are you attracted to men?" "Well, why are YOU attracted to women?".....

[@alexroberts3402]

And the irony is, that counselor probably wasn’t even really attracted to women. He was sent to conversion therapy which doesn’t actually do anything

[@FlyingAlfredoSaucer]

I tried to pull that on someone. (It wasn't actually that exactly, but basically the same.) It doesn't work well usually, they just say, "because it's natural".

[@alexroberts3402]

Flying Alfredo Saucer homosexuality is natural as well

[@FlyingAlfredoSaucer]

@@alexroberts3402 I know... That's their thinking not mine.

[@alexroberts3402]

Flying Alfredo Saucer it’s such a dumb argument too. Why can’t people actually take the time to educate themselves instead of using ignorance to support their beliefs? There is no real argument against homosexuality. I’ve seen people try to say absurd things like “if homosexuality is legal then shouldn’t pedophilia be as well?” Its just so sad to see people that brainwashed

[@TheVisconator4700]

"When did you choose to be gay?" "The same day you choose to be straight."

[@TheVisconator4700]

@@devilsadvocate4611 What? My family never pushed me to be straight or gay. Well, my father's side of the family said that being gay was a choice and how it was bad but as I grew up I stopped caring about other's opinions of myself. No one convinced me to be attracted to the same sex, that happened in isolation because I'm an introvert. I'm not convinced you even understand what you're saying.

[@songbirdy]

@@devilsadvocate4611 Prove that being straight is a natural consequence of being born. Your argument goes from assumption to just plain opinion.

[@jonathanfoster4202]

@@devilsadvocate4611 by that logic, every gay person born from straight parents should have ended up being straight based on their consequence of influence. Can only gay people raise other gays?

[@jaylolo3716]

@@devilsadvocate4611 the fact u said sexuality is a consequence of existing .please put a more knowledgeable input... It's sound mediocre and truly dumb dude

[@TheVisconator4700]

@cobainzlady So your agree that you could choose to be sexually aroused my someone of the same gender as you, which makes you bisexual. Welcome to the LGBTQ+ Club.

[@CreepersNeedHugs]

4:22 guys we found the guy who thinks about the Roman Empire every day

[@peterkunz8983]

“The gay lifestyle,” the most annoying homophobic question

[@nickpetrella6996]

Peter Kunz I know it’s not a lifestyle

[@genghissmith4949]

Darth Ur It’s probably a totally understandable reaction to the way they have ‘generalised’ us over the centuries.

[@peterkunz8983]

To Renaissanceman: that was my point really, what is a “gay lifestyle?” Perhaps homophobe was a bit strong, often it’s ignorance and not asked with malice......but still annoying

[@Impotantmink]

@Darth Ur -phobic adjective combining form Definition of -phobic (Entry 2 of 2) 1a: having an intolerance or aversion forphotophobicAnglophobic b: exhibiting a phobia forclaustrophobic 2: lacking chemical affinity for (see AFFINITY entry 1 sense 2b(2))These polymers are like soaps, with a hydrophobic and a hydrophilic portion in the molecule.- Mercouri G. Kanatzidis- compare -PHILIC

[@Impotantmink]

@Darth Ur it's called Latin you fucking mouth breather

[@billy11056]

“I almost want to drive this car into a tree” “can you let me get out of the car first and then go ahead” oooooo shit fucking savage dude

[@andreal7441]

didn't the mom want to do that anyways with both of them in the car? y'know, the catholic one

[@PrincessNinja007]

Corfaisus He didn't tell her to kill herself, he just refused to partake with her in the one sin considered by most churches to be unforgivable in the hereafter. You don't think she was sinning by considering murder-suicide?

[@williamrodriguez7238]

I don't know his religious affiliation but when his mother is showing so much hate due to her religion I dont think he will have too good of an outlook on religion

[@aimeehannah8856]

billy11056 looooool

[@sijoule965]

Corfaisus no he simply didn't want to die with her

[@henryramos3416]

"So why are you gay?" "Welll.... I'm attracted to men." 😂 I love this guy

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

...and why are you attracted to men? well... That would be... because I'm gay Was that logical roundabout supposed to magically snap him out of it?

[@willow2416]

It's almost like saying "why are you straight?" There literally the same thing! You're just attracted to something else! XD

[@-kranberry-6097]

I’m bisexual bc I find women and men attractive 👁👄👁

[@dansmith2863]

🤢🤮

[@henryramos3416]

@@dansmith2863 right? That therapist was so disgusting. Makes me wanna barf too

[@mozzapple]

Yikes, I'm still hung up about the fact that he not only was required to tell Harvard that he was gay, but also that they outed him to his family. That's disgusting.

[@getmotivated1707]

Your kid gets into Harvard law...and you're disappointed in him because he's gay...make it make sense!

[@fuckwit107]

*it just don't add up!!*

[@ЗояКалайджиева]

*insert Blaire refrence here*

[@locksmithmuggle]

They want babies. My daughter came out recently. I am happy she is happy. I am sad I will not be getting any grand children. I get it...

[@ЗояКалайджиева]

@@locksmithmuggle There's actually a DNA technology that makes it possible for same sex couples to have biological children.

[@locksmithmuggle]

@@ЗояКалайджиева She's not interested. Her public schooling has convinced her that the world is overpopulated and ending shortly.

[@davehshs651]

The ex-gay counselor he mentions makes me think of what Rosie O'Donnell said when a reporter asked her if she was going to raise her son to be gay. She said, "That's like asking me if I'm going to raise him to be tall."

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Lol. Yup. Just as stupid.

[@so5108]

@@BeautifulEarthJa nah, you got me fucked up 🤣

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

Thats a great reply, I have to remember it

[@skyeh199]

“I wanna drive this car into a tree” “Can I get out first? Then go ahead” golden

[@felineoverlordservant2419]

My 14 year old son could tell me that he’s a trans lesbian and I would say to her ~ “as long as you’re living as your authentic self, you are beautiful and I support you. You don’t ever have to pretend to be someone you aren’t, especially not for me.” Support your children in being their authentic selves and teach them how to love that person. If you aren’t doing that, you’re harming them and sabotaging their entire lives.

[@wettapeheartbreak]

You sound like a good parent, I wish more people were like you.

[@crittergonya]

That was really nice to read :3

[@CryingARiver]

I wish my parents could see it like this. Thank you.

[@crittergonya]

@@CryingARiver *hugs*

[@felineoverlordservant2419]

@ be who you are and love that person. Realize that how your parents made you feel as a child doesn’t represent who you are and if they made you feel shame and self hate for trying to be authentic, that doesn’t represent your shortcomings, it represents theirs. ❤️🫂

[@Alex_Plante]

Moral of the story: don't try to argue with a Harvard Law student

[@awoken2562]

@@ario07282 ehh not true, theres alot of useless degrees in that school

[@yeboscrebo4451]

Lol. You didn’t hear the other side of the story.

[@glenncater1]

LOL YOU CRAZY BASTARD !!!

[@fayeyearick1378]

Never argue with a professional liar they were taught by the best LOL

[@lils426]

CHINA !!!!! lol

[@usukatlifegodiekthx]

Holy fuck this guy will be an amazing lawyer.

[@CantonDem13]

+usukatlifegodiekthx Imagine him on the Supreme Court someday… Wouldn't that simply rock?

[@MrDoggygames]

+usukatlifegodiekthx I hope he does, What a intelligent guy.

[@ElTagno]

+usukatlifegodiekthx And an ethical one too.

[@williams-g4846]

Did everyone ignore +Mark Elderson Comment?!?

[@dennisleporte7423]

+usukatlifegodiekthx LOL I was just thinking that !

[@wapewaio]

I bet this kid became an excellent lawyer, i just hope he occasionally lets his boyfriends win an argument.

[@amrita3000]

lol

[@laurabennis3871]

hahaha that last part was funny

[@sofiapulido1187]

Awww that would be so cute... Why can I see that happening, he's super smart but he also looks very sweet and loving

[@jacobbutler169]

Lol "boyfriends" why plural?

[@rebia5542]

@@jacobbutler169 I mean look at him

[@mattbrownruns]

"I'd be very surprised if one gene could control anything like that" This guy is amazing

[@kellyredman9216]

This kid's parents should feel blessed to have him as their son. He is extremely smart and handsome. He is fantastic.

[@codent]

His attitude was the same as mine: if people couldn't accept me, they would be much less a part of my life. It's a tough road to take, but I felt it was the only way to live with integrity and dignity.

[@elicapers2446]

@Batman orossa wow, you really are gay.

[@codent]

@@elicapers2446 you're an ignorant religious nut-job. seek help

[@TommysSketches]

Eli Capers Let me pretend I care.... Okay, I’m done.

[@glenncater1]

@Neotoxism YES !! YOU HAVE TO SPRINKLE GLITTER ON IT !!

[@jjgg3792]

“I would probably do that if I was straight.” The wit, the sass, this guy rules!!

[@hamrunizspar1]

jj gg I am guessing that what he's saying makes sense. It's his delivery that I find funny and irritating.

[@YT-Observer]

@@glenncater1 you are not making sense

[@rufelovoltragon7315]

@@glenncater1 The reason no one understand you because youre brain is tiny like youre tiny eyes no wonder many country has bad view towards china people like you... And yes i know this long ago so keep that disgusting corona virus to youre self.

[@glenncater1]

@@rufelovoltragon7315 JUST STOP BEING GAY AND YOU WONT BE SO CONFUSED !!

[@rufelovoltragon7315]

@@glenncater1 There is nothing you can do about it... (whether you like it or not) they will be existing and fight until the end of time. And homosexual is already been proven by science & it's the natures choice. And i always see you in successful gay career video's don't you think youre just being insecure in gay people's life and this guy is a ( lawyer ) and i bet you like lesbian girl's sex if soo... you are just insecure & hypocrite. That's the truth about you...

[@MxKythy]

It went like: Mother: Why are you gay? Him: Who says I'm gay? Mother: Harvard Him: 👁️👄👁️

[@theanonymouschicken169]

Harvard are snitchies

[@wuffalo]

and then the son jumped out of the car before it smashed into a tree

[@BaldTorment]

you are gay

[@Animalisticbehavio]

Harvard as in The Harvard or Mr.Harvard nextdoor?

[@GySGTGerman]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@caspaabriel4794]

16 / 02 / 2022 New Zealand’s Parliament has near-unanimously passed a legislation that bans practices intended to forcibly change a person’s sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, known as conversion therapy. Kind Regards

[@BrianTylerComposer]

This guy presents a solid rebuttal of all the specious anti-gay arguments. Well done!

[@jeffk5623]

+Brian Tyler OMG! Love your work!

[@isaacevilman7586]

he was studying to be a lawyer

[@Sylphadora]

+Brian Tyler It's kind of embarrassing to see how the counselor tries to pass ridiculous shit off as valid arguments: if you hate your mom, you're gay; if you hate your dad, too. LOL! He got lawyered alright! XD I enjoyed hearing the story of how Scott dismounted all of his crappy arguments.

[@Mcommander23]

+Brian Tyler I think the most fascinating part of the story was how he recognized that nothing was wrong with him, but rather, something was mentally or emotionally wrong with the counselor, and that is why he held the beliefs that he held.

[@Mcommander23]

***** It wasn't an argument, it was an observation. I think you need to read it again. I was pointing out the fact that this young man was not at all angry or upset by this "counselor," because he recognized that this person likely held the views that he held because he had been emotionally and psychologically abused for being gay. Or did you just respond to the wrong person?

[@sleepystreets3394]

"I am gay" "I want to drive this car into a tree" "Can I get out first then you can go right ahead" I- USAHFUYASHFYUDSGHUSDF

[@nonfields8323]

your son. is a student. at harvard Law School. he's smart. intelligent. and you decided. to question. WHY HE'S GAY. there's so many other things you should care more about.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

Like Why law school? Don't you want to do something productive? Engineering? Architecture?

[@Mobilizes]

@@edwardgiovannelli5191 law isnt productive? what? lawyer's average salary is literally 120k, in what context do you mean not productive?

[@NoobieLandCity]

@@Mobilizes While I have no argument to why lawyer's is or isn't productive.. Why did you point out salary? having a big salary doesn't always mean productive.. then again we could play with word and I could tell you that my comment right here was productive of my boring days isn't it?

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

@@Mobilizes No, regardless of how much money they get, lawyers are by and large non-contributing members of society. Some are, the vast majority are not. That said, that's not really the point, it was just humor.

[@amb600cd0]

@@ammo7204 poop*

[@sarahdynasty]

This king is rational, confident, calm and lethal but most most importantly he is empathetic and caring. Like wow, it's a such an awful mistake if his parents choose bigotry and prejudice over such a golden boy.

[@juniorqindes8335]

“Bigotry and prejudice.” So… bi and gay are terms you made up to tell people how your religion views sexuality. You have no proof that sexuality was ever based on sex so all you are is a homophobic bigot telling us what we are and explaining how we are wrong about ourselves because we don’t follow your religion.

[@bane2201]

@@juniorqindes8335 WTF are you talking about? Sarah was saying that his parents were wrong for being bigoted and prejudiced instead of caring for him as a person. Are you anti-LGBTQ people, or did you misunderstand Sarah's comment?

[@marlborosoda]

shouldnt the folks from harvard have known better than to speak so candidly on the phone about it? they literally outed this poor kid.

[@ingriddubbel8468]

No he made it public by putting his sexual orientation on his application.

[@whenhen]

@@ingriddubbel8468 no he didn't. A law school application is between him and the school, not the university and the world. And any gay student group should know better than to out a student to someone else, especially one which represents students from a huge diversity of backgrounds such as Harvard.

[@Paulinrnke]

He said it was the best way ever to come out to ones parents. Haha

[@serenabean868]

He said on the application that he was openly gay so they probably assumed that meant he was out to his parents

[@NekoApril]

@@ingriddubbel8468 Once you're done with applications, it's standard to redact and shred them. Applications are not public documents.

[@jordanw6918]

Jesus, no wonder this kid was going to Harvard. I would NEVER want to be on the opposing side debating him.

[@cocoa8573]

jordan w i know he is amazing

[@user-wk5tx2xd1g]

I like this kid and I like Ben Shapiro so I'd love to see it. I'd love to see Ben and Milo FINALLY debate..

[@RawChristianSuperman]

He has presented only his version of the story of a conversation....this is hardly a debate. Gays tend to be like that.

[@an.dr.16561]

right he should totatlly write a book about this

[@pastol]

"Gays tend to be like that?" So you've never seen a str8 person present their side of any story? Never? How odd.

[@leishayoung4124]

Education smashes ignorance every time. That is why education is the key to healthy societies.

[@dreamervanroom]

That was my take on the Trump election. It shows the poverty of American education.

[@arikayemusic]

​@@dreamervanroom Some like to complain about liberal college professors and students, but they are the ones with education. Education combats ignorance. YEE

[@Simplejackfade]

Not true. Idiots can often shape governance with money.

[@deerheart87]

I agree

[@Shnecko]

@@alekshannibal1070 Exactly. His Roman history literature was most likely not provided in any kind of public school. He had his own collection, was well-informed, and was able to demolish the counselor's arguments. It's important to be well-read and informed. The public school system in the US is basically day care.

[@dmgisi]

Applause for being able to argument on the spot like that and defend yourself.

[@cainen6355]

"OH! So it's your mother!!" "No I actually like my mother." "OOOH. So it's your FATHER!!" "We have our differences but I do not hate him at all." "WHY ARE YOU GAY!!!!????"

[@GoLakers3900]

Why are you YELLING?

[@dismian7]

"why are ypu gay" Is an internet meme, mostly yelled. It's a perfect example pf how homophobes are irrational.

[@abigase135]

it's kind of sad how he was trying to find any link but couldn't find any. So they're taught to ask these questions precisely because the answer is the reason for homosexuality, but when they get "I love my parents and I'm gay" they're at the end of their argument. The dude was right, everything humans do is complex, you can't explain one action with a single reason.

[@duesalbladesinger7900]

This guy was very impressive. He'll be a great lawyer.

[@eelke1971]

And he is a great person.

[@dashapoz9701]

uhm... my boy got accepted to Harvard and she's worried about his sexuality. Interesting.

[@SpankinHands]

And her sexuality didn't guarantee success: she's divorced!

[@dashapoz9701]

Steve Denver PERIOD👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@SpankinHands]

@@danielguinan1641 -- Sounds like you have your priorities correct. I've known people whose kids had an unplanned pregnancy, there was a heavy sigh, eye-roll, and the parents got on board. I've read of parents mortgaging the farm to hire attorneys and attending court every day when their kid is charged with murder. I've read of parents turning their lives and homes upside-down to help a child who is addicted. My mom went over-the-edge when I came out -- after attending bible college, graduating valedictorian, and marrying a woman for six years. She finally met my boyfriend, and I swear she liked him better than me.

[@SpankinHands]

@Kaththee1 -- You're the only one who has written "always." Don't school me.

[@fylink]

They want a family and grandchidlren.

[@thepixelcatremmy829]

Choosing to argue with a lawyer as brilliant and charming as you is perhaps the most hilarious outcome I could have conceived.

[@achillestitan989]

I'd be proud if my son turned out to be such an intelligent, compassionate, and gentle man

[@kubasniak]

No woman likes such a man unless she's in 40+

[@cavetownlover671]

@@kubasniak Wrong. I'm way younger than that and men like this are amazing to me.

[@redox_reaction_phox]

@@cavetownlover671 same

[@kiamotors4809]

@@kubasniak well good thing he likes men :)

[@dorothyhiggins9029]

This kid was like a mutant. He would only lie if he was straight. He only thinks that Rome fell because of Christianity (no barbarians or politicians) He believes he has right to be free and unchallenged but challenge everyone else freedom. Meaning he can do what he wants and call himself what he wants and go where he wants. Because you own and can do nothing to him because he is oppressed

[@gaydubbbz8148]

"the roman empire fell after it became gay" "actually it fell after it became christian, i have around 10 books in my shelf about that if you want i can give you some" "...gay"

[@gaydubbbz8148]

@Mr Shekelbergstein what ? are you saying white perSON ? like making fun of me because you think im white ? you know shaming people for their race is literally racism

[@thepegperson6484]

Mr Shekelbergstein Why you gotta make it a white thing?

[@berno8535]

It fell because leaders became incompetent with the success of their greedy and luxurious lifestyles, as with almost any empire that pushes their greed to far for their dirty hands to reach.

[@dan69052]

the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by goat herders, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace

[@minutemansam1214]

@@gaydubbbz8148 I mean, strictly speaking, it fell over 1000 years after it became Christian. Roman Empire fell in 1453, so anyone who says it 'fell' because of one thing or another is wrong, because it lasted for nearly 1,000 years after it 'fell'.

[@ire1398]

I asked my step-father what he would do if I brought a woman home. He put the paper down, looked at me like I’m an idiot, and said “introduce myself” and kept reading.

[@ZZMJo]

🥂Cool.

[@briancoogan2784]

Such an awesome reply. The part about the look though, makes it hilarious.

[@silviac221]

Good for him!

[@Steampunksaly]

Your stepfather is awesome!

[@DutchGuyMike]

Sounded like my dad LOL

[@rottensquid]

Jeez, this kid is one class act. Held his boundaries, exposed the hypocrisy, but wrapped it up with pity and compassion for this deeply wounded "ex-gay" person who suffered so much trauma that he lost himself.

[@ManWytch]

I remember coming out to my parents in the early 80’s... They asked if I wanted to see a Psychiatrist... I said, “No Thanks! I’m seeing a Marine!!”

[@alparker2616]

🤣😂

[@ballisticcranberrypeat7777]

That's gay 😁🤠👍

[@roastedmagg5106]

DAAAAAYUMMMM SON

[@Vanessa-ht6kl]

Hope I’ll have the same confidence as you when I come out lol

[@hallowedchromee310]

@@Vanessa-ht6kl I came out awhile ago, my parents are awesome, they don’t mind that I’m bi at all, they said “ we care more about your integrity than your sexuality, as long as you’re a honest and good individual, we don’t care who you’re attracted to, “ Hopefully you’ve got understanding people around yah too 👍

[@kap79]

Smart kid. Glad he was able to cope with his sexuality in such a healthy manner. I hope future children have it easier than we did.

[@malloryg4251]

I know, it's truly remarkable. Not everyone can come out of such a traumatic experience in such a healthy way. Shame on his parents. I would feel honored to have him as my son.

[@tonybennett4159]

One would certainly hope so. However, changes for the better can be fragile : look at the increasingly antagonistic stance taken against gay people in such countries as Brazil, Poland, Hungary, Russia etc etc. If we follow science and common sense we should be all right, except science has not always been followed in such cases as climate change or COVID, so we need to remain vigilant.

[@kimkk2981]

Ya

[@KAT-di3eo]

❤️

[@OscarDirlwood]

@@tonybennett4159 I like how you think accepting them is "common sense" and based on science. How delusional are you?

[@epicXtrollface]

"Why are you gay?" "Because I am attracted to men." That's about right

[@epicXtrollface]

@Nikos hr Nah I think the dude is gay because he likes men.

[@cartaphilus242]

@Nikos hr or is he european?

[@asteriawashere6881]

@@cartaphilus242 gay or european? 🤔

[@fylink]

"Why are you pedophile?" "Because I am attracted to children." - That is not the answer.

[@epicXtrollface]

@@asteriawashere6881 This man is gay AND European!

[@propman3523]

OMG! You are so brilliant! Thank you for advancing the cause! God bless.

[@tb9489]

Smart, articulate, level headed young man that knows exactly where he's headed in life.

[@hamrunizspar1]

T B With a speech impediment like that, he could never tell a joke and NOT fuck up the punch-line.

[@brandoncrabb7195]

@@hamrunizspar1 Speech impediment? Where?

[@hamrunizspar1]

no homo. You're entitled to your own opinion(and as far as this one is concerned, you opinion does not say much about you). When YOU express YOUR opinion, do YOU speak through a corner of your mouth making your opinion, such as it is, a garbled drone? And the guy is so full of himself - he's clever no doubt - he sounds very hyped-up. Not good when one is trying to project one's persona.

[@stephenferrariz9454]

@@hamrunizspar1 You just could never. Period.

[@hamrunizspar1]

Stephen Ferrariz The guy sounds clever but there is something idiotic and misaligned about him. That is all. Get over it. Homosexuals are often oppressed but at some point they need to take control of their lives and stop blaming others. And they had better do this in a way that is easily understood. The guy is a bag of nerves which he tries to conceal but fails miserably.

[@marleneeversley8008]

I am a black, straight, 60-year old woman, raised Catholic and became agnostic...and I am so proud of this man!! He is simply a good human.

[@marijaperkovic4384]

Why are people proud when they stop believing? Its religion you dont like not Jesus

[@marleneeversley8008]

@@marijaperkovic4384 As I said, I am proud of the young man and would so love to give him a hug! And I do know the meaning of the word 'agnostic'. God bless you 😇

[@j-rocd9507]

I'm a white straight 37yr old man and your comment made me very happy. Who cares as long as you're a good person right?! I'm also an atheist. I just read the other comment. I'm still a decent person and I don't need threats of eternal hell to be a good man. I'm good because it's the right thing to do.

[@marleneeversley8008]

@@j-rocd9507 You rock, J-Roc!! Love to you...

[@fabreo4041]

Omg ma'am we're the same but I'm younger I believe in God but I'm not homophobic!

[@thatsabingo6695]

I’m try a find homophobes in the comments to argue with but they’ve all been shut down by rational people this makes me happy

[@arcanevoid9199]

:)

[@sociallyundead419]

Isn't it beautiful?

[@Numbers_Game]

I would love to take you up on that offer, but I am already too busy arguing with stupid poor people who don't take any accountability for their actions and just want to "eat the rich". Then we have the glutenous bastards of the body positivity movement that must be adressed, so the ASCII community is pretty low on the totem poleall things considered.

[@delirioverdigris2749]

@@Numbers_Game ok

[@mrf8546]

@@Numbers_Game damn

[@_Featch_]

Saying being gay is immoral only comes from people who don't know what morality is and whose morality themselves is absolutely corrupted.

[@sudo008]

Scott has such empathy to realise, through all of that, that the counselor is simply a flawed human with his own pain.

[@forthfarean]

Bull s--t!

[@joshuapowell3526]

That kind of comprehension and understanding is rare

[@waterwitch]

Yes! He seems like such a genuine, intelligent, sweet guy. It’s a lot easier to become bitter and angry than to really see the person and be so empathetic, kudos to him. Doesn’t excuse hate, but we definitely need more of that understanding in the world.

[@hughman6614]

@@forthfarean It's not bullshit. You're bull shit though. A big hate-drenched pile of it. Get help. If I remember the bible correctly, people who spend their lives hating and putting down others don't exactly get to see the "big man" and ol' JC when they kick the bucket.

[@lancewright521]

@@hughman6614 Let me tell you, everyone sees shrinks as dumb, and everyone thinks they get the upper hand and are better than. Very VERY few people are, and this is not one of those cases sadly sir.

[@allietone20]

Rules to parents of gay children who are in law school, do not send them to a ex gay counselor, they will outsmart you and argue you under the table.

[@pinksalt1057]

The counselor probably "became" gay after the meeting. So it was probably a conversion meeting.

[@user-zv9no2my6j]

@@pinksalt1057 yes I truly hope he was "born gay" again :D

[@pinksalt1057]

@@user-zv9no2my6j I can't understand who feels important enough to ponder and direct someone else who to have sexual relations with and how they feel it's not odd for them to to be exposed for pondering on who you are having private time with.

[@remythearmy3770]

are we just going to ignore that harvard literally outed him?? bruh

[@youtopuck]

yea same, I hope that law group learnt from their mistakes because it was a BIG one. inexcusable really.

[@vikumwijekoon3166]

@@youtopuck if he did mention he's openly gay, it's safe to assume that they've come out. But still they should have talked to the guy not to the mom. That's effed up

[@benjaminjameskreger]

Scott said that he was openly gay on paper and Harvard's gay law study group tried to recruit him. Scott probably should have told his mum before every university he applied to.

[@pluna3382]

@@benjaminjameskreger Considering she responded with "I would rather run this car into a tree right now", safe to say the son is in the right and that's why he was raised with his dad more. More importantly, why the hell would Havard call the estranged parent about this and not the one the raised him and had custody? Oh right the dad was atheist so they wanted this gay intervention for the mom??? Why is the school sticking their nose into this to begin with??

[@benjaminjameskreger]

@@pluna3382 both are explained in the first 30 seconds.. he said he was openly gay on his law school application, which was a voluntary option, and they contacted his mother because that was his address which he then used on his law school application. Why would anyone ask that? They have a gay law study group, which then immediately tried to recruit him. Again, voluntary admission, he didn't have to check 'straight' and lie, he never had to out himself. Scott messed up. Whoops. It's sad he was treated that way by his mother but that was his blunder for dropping the truth in that fashion.

[@frankstein1776]

10 years from this video I can still use these answers against the exact same questions. I'm not 100% gay, but it feels good to have some support

[@justace5595]

“Haven’t found a gay gene” Haven’t found a straight gene either

[@eamontdmas]

I would be worried if they ever did find a gene or combination of genes which provided indicators for sexual preference. Because right there and then the bigots would start looking for a "cure".

[@eamontdmas]

@William Webber Happily for us both, the question of a "gay" gene is a scientific one. So your dislike of gay people and my indifference to them won't make a blind of difference if and when the question is finally answered

[@rosebud0391]

@William Webber What they speak of is not a gene. They are speaking of science, however. Science that shows biological differences but the matter does not really matter. I am more worried about the mental health of those who care so much about what others do with their sex organs that they rather them be dead then LGBTQ+. Really sad that such bigots still exist.

[@wordswitha7]

@@eamontdmas homosexual men have brains structured like heterosexual women

[@wordswitha7]

@@Bestoutsideback what do you mean? :)

[@Frohds14]

I am a straight woman. What actually makes these anti-gay therapists believe that I would like to be in a relationship with a man who first had to be tortured to want me? Can you have an happy and joyful life, when you know your whole life that the affection your partner feels for you is only trained or conditioned? What kind of crazy negative image do these therapists have about women?

[@ahhh4117]

idk how to tell you that these religions care very little about what you want

[@jean6453]

good point Mi Fri

[@yourstrulytk12]

agreed.

[@mycabages5184]

That is a very good point.

[@alexk3806]

Great point. Thinking about it, the anti-gay agenda is fundamentally misogynistic.

[@tarapapi]

It's like he has a permanent smirk on his face. How am I supposed to argue with that?

[@nayel6382]

lollll ur fucked if u try to argue with this guy i can feel it

[@quadencaroline3368]

😂😂😂

[@shq_main2853]

You can’t argue with a person that has a smug smirk, you will lose.

[@sydneyatkins6249]

@@shq_main2853 especially when they're a Harvard law student

[@Ivan-uq8cc]

Eternal shit eating grin guarantees Victory

[@grahamfunnell5590]

I come back to this video from time to time. Always impressed by how centred and articulate this young man is. It's been 8 years now. I hope he is happy and doing well.

[@Nargleberry]

"I'm not changing who I am - he can deal with it or become a smaller part of my life." - that's powerful. I'm going to remember that.

[@granville7]

well, he can't really 'change'. That's not an option. All he can do is turn into the sort of sorry being he was interviewed by - or carry on his life as best he can.

[@orchidsrising7910]

Nargleberry Yes, I needed to hear those words, too. And I’m not gay. The strength to stand in ones own truth and not let the family opinion bring you down, it hits deep for me 💕🙏💕

[@SleepDaMouse-xd8dn]

Funny, he means “deal with it or have his life ruined by the lgbt and me”

[@mykaaa]

"i wanna drive this car into a tree" "okay well let me get out of the car first and then go ahead" LMAO ME ASF THO

[@czarii2422]

Best comeback of all time.

[@lumossk3657]

He choose the right profession

[@ashanimatez8533]

You're so 12.

[@j.26]

MYK-UH Official I READ THIS RIGHT WHEN THEY SAID THAT

[@urischic1668]

Ash Animatez That’s right some of of us did happen to be born in 2005. Your point?

[@PabluchoViision]

Not as impressed with his smarts or debating skills (both terrific), as I am with his passionate, quiet intensity, and his capacity to see life as it is. When he said he and his father never talk about his sexuality or relationships, then adds simply, "That's a shame." I sense a lot of hurt in him, but also a strong sense of self, and an iron character. I think any dad should be proud to have a son like Scott.

[@moontobe1829]

On one hand, I can see why he'd be upset, on the other I wouldn't wanna talk to my kids about their relationships either. Regardless of their sexual orientation. (And I'm happy my parents don't ask me about it, personally.) Edit: Add On.

[@PabluchoViision]

@@moontobe1829 I agree it could be really awkward, but am thinking what Scott wanted/needed was just his dad’s acknowledgment. And maybe talk about the people he (the son) cares about. I don’t know, but the hurt that long pause and answer expressed seemed very real to me.

[@plan4life]

Absolutely.

[@pandabadminton]

@@moontobe1829 I think its more of the fact that the father is denying part of who he is. It doesn't have to be specific details, but just casual how is so and so, who are you seeing these days, are they nice, etc. These things growing up are standard parenting and he's been denied that because of his father disliking his sexual orientation.

[@optiTHOMAS]

Indeed. He's true to himself and I like that. Cool dude. 👍🏻

[@zachialadams9279]

Your folks finding out you're gay because HARVARD called up and outed you, that's a story for a future husband lmao.

[@Bene_Factum]

I don't understand as a parent myself, how you could stop loving your kid just because of their sexual orientation. It's not like they changed, their still the same person they were prior to coming out.

[@spaceman884]

What if the came out as a pedophile? That’s more and more trending to become a sexual orientation

[@desepticon4]

@@spaceman884 No it isn't.

[@Only_Yours_]

Nathan Rudolph I don’t know how a parent could do that...my dad refuses to tell me why he disowned me

[@Bene_Factum]

@@desepticon4 I agree with you 100% ! @spaceman884, and yes even if my kid was a pedophile, crack whore or a murderer, I would still love them. I may not agree with what they do or who they become, doesn't change the fact that they are my child.

[@Bene_Factum]

@@Only_Yours_ I am sorry to hear that.

[@mariag.8242]

I feel sorry for the “ex-gay” guy too. Sounds like he wasn’t as intelligent, well-read and self-confident as this legal scholar; much easier to bamboozle with bullshit, bullying and shame. What he was doing was abusive but it sounds like he was a victim too

[@caiofranca6078]

Maybe at some point. But the choices he has done with his life after that were his. He chose to interrogate gay people to feel as miserable as he is. They are a shame to the community.

[@JimmyBoy9878]

@@caiofranca6078 Is it really a community? Cant a gay just be gay?

[@caiofranca6078]

@@JimmyBoy9878 We're all part of a community.

[@JimmyBoy9878]

@@caiofranca6078 No we're not. I dont know you

[@caiofranca6078]

@@JimmyBoy9878 I said a community, not "the community I'm in".

[@rosspatterson1233]

It’s amazing how two terrible parents created this absolute legend of a man.

[@dumpydapillow8519]

@@tcarney57 Nah, they're terrible parents.

[@dumpydapillow8519]

@@tcarney57 In a way, I agree, but talking about how you would drive your car into a tree with your son inside makes me doubt that. That’s pretty sickening.

[@eldron29-a54]

You'll get surprised.

[@youdontknowme5980]

@@tcarney57 dude wtf are you dumb El dron 29-A wasent even talking to you, he reply to the original coment

[@youdontknowme5980]

@@tcarney57 HeY AsShOlE, first of anything you comment sounds pretty agressive to him, second are you new in KZbin? He dont need to specify who he is talking to, if the comment dont start with the name of somebody else is obvious he is replying to the original coment

[@foxxy-3748]

Imagine just...Being something, like say your toenails are green. No particular reason, they're just green. Nobody can ever really see them because you're always wearing some kind of shoes/socks, maybe because you're ashamed of it or maybe just because you think it doesn't really matter. Then your parents send you away to a camp where they ask "why do you have green toenails huh?" and say demeaning things like "having green toenails is unnatural" "God hates people with green toenails". You'd not only be extremely traumatized and humiliated, but you'd feel confused that people can be so angry about something you never had a choice about to begin with.

[@wafflemation6887]

strange example but true

[@cardion411]

"Can you let me get out of the car first? Then go head." Lol, this guy is so intelligent and witty!

[@Blue-yi6ij]

Cardion Don I snorted

[@scott3805]

"why are you attracted to men?" "Why do you like pizza?"

[@leahmedlin223]

EXACTLY! I laughed so hard at this comment!

[@hallway_revenant7919]

coke and pepsi are like men and women I have a strong preference for one, but my dad thinks they taste the same

[@hallway_revenant7919]

@Emi K oh thank god somebody got it

[@JL-kd6pi]

I prefer tomato pies over pizza...with the exception of Nick & Joe's next to the Wawa's on the Maryland/Delaware border when you're trying to dodge DE's ridiculous toll. So I'm a little bi. Deal with it.

[@pratherlara5321]

Because it tastes good!!!

[@82Catfish]

This video was very important to me growing up and coming out to my family💚

[@leewilson9822]

I have a gay daughter, I will defend her with my life.

[@tylernicholas4560]

Good on you

[@MissAngelic1993]

As it should be💜

[@leewilson9822]

@Claire Choi it may be an Australian thing, but most lesbian women in Australia call themselves gay. I don't know why

[@yeshmp9403]

I am proud of you Lee Wilson.GOD is so love you more the bigots christian who gave HIM bad reputation. JESUS died for all and for all. Not becouse for who they are, but becouse HE love us all. Never let the devil steal the sacrifice of Christ for our freedom. It is by grace we are saved. GOD loves gay...the true Gospel of Christ.

[@1joshjosh1]

How gay? Hot lesbian or man looking type?

[@deliri0um]

Im pretty sure if harvard called my mom and said Im going to law school she wouldnt care if I was an alien. That IS the best way.

[@JulietteVeronica1201]

Honestly same. The only worry my mom had when I came out to her was if I finished my homework that night.

[@GoLakers3900]

Seems like your mom is easily persuaded by shinning, sparkly things.

[@GoLakers3900]

@Lilith does stuff Not when greed overrides goodness.

[@birdylady3332]

@@GoLakers3900 tbh i don’t know what your talking about a child going to Harvard doesn’t guarantee anything for the parents

[@marwamimi843]

My mom doesn’t even know what Harvard is 😂😂😂

[@ParArdua]

Bravo Scott. But the gay law school group had no right to assume any student is out to family, nor they had the right to disclose same.

[@ninabriesch4184]

I got the feeling that the person that called is a part of a anti gay group and they sent him/ her into this group to stir shit up between students and their parents. I know that parents don't have access to the students grates but will be told that their kids are gay??!! B.S - I would so sue this place. At least anyone with access to the form he signed and marked him being gay.

[@PunguinYoga]

That was my first thought. But I forgot it by the end of the video.

[@ryuuto1597]

I believe the question was "are you openly gay", to which he responded yes. I think most reasonable people would equate "openly gay" to "the people close to you know you are gay"

[@Titiwasalwayshere]

Yeah that was reckless, I have no idea why the gay students group would do that. At my alma mater, our GSA waited until after parents left to recruit the youngins

[@cageybee7221]

it was an anti gay group that's why

[@adairs7498]

I wonder how many people were outed by Harvard's Gay Student group calling gay teens' families! Surely they should know better

[@lydiaa1514]

“Why are you attracted to men” Well.. why are you attracted to women?

[@starlightmoonlight4011]

Lydia A Or "Because I am gay."

[@RJ1999x]

Unfortunately the attraction to women is declining. Not because of beauty, it's because of personality.

[@stealth172]

I fucking hate that question

[@happyemoji6553]

RJ 1999 Well there are lesbians that are attracted to women so I don't know if you're speaking only for men or in general? If you're gay you'll be attracted to men and if you're a lesbian you'll be attracted to women. People weren't straight always but people aren't killed for being homosexual nowadays (at least in the west) that's why we see openly gay people now more than ever.

[@CedarCritter]

That is literally what I told my mom when I told her...but in reverse.

[@someonerandom8552]

Did anyone else picture the conversations like Ex gay person: *brings up bogus homophobic nonsense* Law Student: *Objection!!!*

[@mtgamerguy]

(Phoenix Wright shows up) THIS IS WHY HE IS INNOCENT!

[@tiny_fox_]

YESSSSSSS

[@regularsizedwithahat1935]

@Preacher Gerald White who hurt you?

[@savantianprince]

Smart.

[@savantianprince]

Hate comes from all sides of culture.

[@philb4462]

If you are going to try to convince a law student eligible for Harvard anything, you'd better have a really well-constructed case before you start. Building a case on prejudice is just not going to cut it. Boy would I love to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation!

[@Motorata661]

Yeah right? Who tries to argue with a lawyer? Thats what they are trained to do is like trying to outrun a sprinter

[@tkd2703]

Same here!

[@jeancolapierrearmande3326]

Then you are a gay fly!

[@subu150390]

Well we also have Ben Shapiro from Harvard Law who made a fool of himself on BBC.

[@CathyHarrisLCSW]

Any licensed therapist who is doing conversion therapy is doing so against the ethics and rules of their licensing board. It needs to be reported.

[@jpbaley2016]

This video went up 10 yrs ago. Gay conversion therapy has been illegal in NJ since before this video was posted. Ocean Grove was founded as a Methodist town and is still owned by the Methodist church. You can’t sell alcohol there and cars are banned on Sundays in the town center so people are safe walking to church.

[@alisonfool]

Alternate title: "Guy invited to go to Harvard respectfully, logically, and easily roasts idiots"

[@angela-d9799]

Gerry De naro you’re just mad that your husband is closeted and would rather be sleeping with men, next

[@getout9728]

How can you say that, were all humans in the end whether were gay or have a religion or not, it's fucking cold to insult people whether their straight or gay. Imagine if you were in his situation, because of a career or degree you wanted, you had to be straight, but being gay was the only way you knew yourself. I bet your a little gay, we all are, so none of us can say anything.

[@sijoule965]

Gerry De naro Homosexuality isn't a lifestyle.

[@horizontoday7874]

anonymous201096 Prove it

[@horizontoday7874]

01buttons1 Exactly. And everything natural isn't "morally correct" either. For instance, it's natural for a 9 year old girl who has reached puberty to procreate with a 30 year old man, but is it normal or accepted here in the US? Absolutely not. It's natural to murder a life to sustain a life (look at the African safari for instance), but is it fair to the prey to have his or her life cut short by murder? My point exactly.

[@feawFefaeffa]

The fact this man can show mercy, to try to understand the counselor and empathize with him, even as the counselor demonizes his sexual orientation. THIS man is a better man than me.

[@shotakonkin2047]

Change can happen any time, it's not as slow as one realizes and in fact can happen in a heartbeat; change is an immediate thing, though habits take time.

[@ramina6568]

You have no idea how condescending i would be if i was this intelligent.

[@theoriginalskinsey]

Similarly, I was a teen when the AIDS crisis started and I was absolutely terrified. Having a born again mother and all the anti gay propaganda that was spewed on James Dobson radio, which played every day in our house, and not knowing anyone who was gay, I can certainly understand why the counselor went the ex gay route. I did too. Difference is I'm naturally difficult and I argued with the counselor about every so called cause of homosexuality. It's true what this man says, if you had any difficulty with either parent, then that's because you're "same-sex attracted" (was not allowed to say "gay", you're told you're straight but broken and that's why you think you're gay). If you had no problems with either parent, then you were molested, and if you say you weren't molested,then they counter with you just don't remember because it was so traumatic. Yet all that nonsense really stuck with me for YEARS. I constantly questioned whether he was right and I was wrong.

[@theoriginalskinsey]

And for YEARS I racked my brain and read so many books about child abuse to try to remember the so called molestation.

[@SuperGladiator21]

He's DEFINITELY a better person than the COUNSELOR!

[@lililance1048]

"Turns out human sexuality is less of a straight line and more of a Cirque Du Soliel show: long, confusing, and full of sexy clowns."

[@lililance1048]

@Samantha McLemore it's from a TV show called Love, Victor on Hulu

[@potato.pancake]

YES YES NOT WHERE I EXPECTED TO SEE A LOVE VICTOR REFERENCE BUT YES YES VERY ICONIC OF YOU

[@anshnanavati]

I C O N I C reference 10/10 amazing showstopping spectacular Venji have my heart I cannot wait for season 2

[@krakenyoutube1289]

Wow slow claps for this reference right here 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@lililance1048]

@Samwisegamgee The Brave ?

[@Mar-g4l]

We are proud of you being honest and enthusiastic about it, no obstacles should stop you. God bless you bro. 🇺🇸🙏🏻

[@backgroundcharacter2615]

The constant smirk on his face is wonderful. He deserves to be proud of himself.

[@dinodogstar]

Yeah, and that slanted-smile -thingy is way-cool.

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

​@jewLUBEkneegahRsWHINEWhy do you hate gays

[@SuperGladiator21]

Frankly I DON'T view smirks to be POSITIVE things and I'll NEVER understand those who DO.

[@jan_Sanku]

@@SuperGladiator21 entirely fair, you do you. i for one think it's cute.

[@SuperGladiator21]

@@jan_Sanku So if someone looked at you with IRONIC eyes, as if to MAKE FUN OF YOU and obviously (because they go TOGETHER!) had a SMIRK on his/her face, you'd think it's CUTE??? imagine THAT! in THIS particular case it's not a smirk, more of a lopsided kind of smile, but SMIRKS are simply UNBEARABLE! and they're intended to MAKE FUN and BELITTLE whoever they have infront of them! so HOW you can find that deplorable kind of action "cute" is BEYOND me!

[@jimstoner6884]

"No. The Roman Empire fell only after it became Christian". I love it.

[@HeavensMystery]

This level of historical ignorance literally makes my head hurt.

[@nucleargold695]

@@HeavensMystery same

[@codyleslie478]

Technically the Roman Empire didnt fall they restructured themselves into the Holy Catholic Church... The Emperor became the Pope... they expanded the conquered land of the empire by sending priests..they tax their empire in the forms of tithes. Instead of an army they keep people in subjection by threatening hell. The Catholic Church is an example of the single greatest rebranding campaign in history!

[@HeavensMystery]

The amalgamation of idiots that arrived since my comment literally makes my head hurt.

[@HeavensMystery]

@Lord Frieza Smarter than you = boomer? What an idiot.

[@infinightsky]

I look forward to the day when announcing you’re gay is of equal importance as announcing your height.

[@hamrunizspar1]

infinightsky That day will come when heterosexual people realise that being straight is not it is all cracked up to be. Any sexual orientation is a burden to bear because that is what sexuality is. If one is honest and dares to read the right stuff. Until they do that, we will continue to read about heterosexual people screwing up their lives because they are ignorant of some basic facts. So no one needs to be complacent about their sexuality - gay or straight.

[@hamrunizspar1]

Darth Ur. Careful now! People often do not care(as you say), when in fact they are indifferent. Two entirely different things.

[@hamrunizspar1]

darth Ur. I said 'If there is anything wrong with homosexuality, then there is something wrong with ALL sexualities'. How is that splitting hairs. I give homosexuality my support(that's pretty obvious if you understand what I wrote), but that does not mean that the sun shines out of every homosexual's arse.

[@hamrunizspar1]

infinightsky. I have a feeling that you are going to wait for a very, very long time for that sort of enlightenment. After all, people have more urgent things to ponder than same-sex shenanigans. The best homosexuals can do is to reconcile themselves to themselves and nobody can stop you doing that. It's a tough ride, though. So stop hoping and expecting endorsements. You won't get them.

[@hamrunizspar1]

Darth Ur. If only it were tolerance(which is a dirty word in any case. As in, how dare you patronise me and tolerate me?! Is that so difficult to understand? Besides, what appears to be toleration is merely indifference. You could point out to heterosexuals that their heterosexuality is not as brilliant as they make out(the ignorant hypocrites). Can you do that? While telling them that you yourself are not heterosexual? Can you do that? It takes a bit of courage but worth the effort. And you should come away feeling so much stronger about yourself. Go on! Have a go!

[@SophieMayLove]

What a strong, intelligent and kind person, thank you x

[@NyxesRealms]

Moral of the story is to never argue with a law student unless you want to feel stupid. :D

[@jaredknight8838]

+HiddenInTheLight This guy was a cut above even then. Watch him be the first gay attorney general.

[@Jimbosfull]

But they were both law students...

[@rfrizz]

+HiddenInTheLight I disagree. The moral of the story is to never argue when you don't know what in the hell you are talking about. The "counselor" was parroting crap that he'd been and had not examined critically.

[@Defhrone]

+HiddenInTheLight I think it's more: Don't assume you're smarter then someone else. Because some day you'll run into someone who will make you look like the fool you really are.

[@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r]

especially if your position is stupid