JRB Chest Star Ideas

[@PaxtheDreamer]

I feel like these videos could easily be renamed to "I've already tried these things guys, please stop emailing me."

[@CC-hx8gj]

PaxtheDreamer 255 likes with no comments

[@viviblue7277]

Isaac SMM only two comments in a top comment in 3 years is though

[@goldenwarrior1186]

@Skeleton Masher Can’t tell if this is a joke, but if it isn’t, a dive recover doesn’t give enough height to collect the star (unfortunately). I mean, just look at the first suggestion disproved in the video

[@henriquekirchheck]

it seen that the trend is for someone to reply every year

[@davistoa]

@@henriquekirchheck I was just about to do this year's reply! Damn you!

[@andrewmat]

1:43 "and even if Mario manages to become dead-center in a chest, all that happens is that he won't be pushed out. But this still doesn't help accomplish anything" I disagree. Now you have a Mario in a chest.

[@pamka6913]

This made me laugh way more than it should

[@ej-jz5rc]

@@goldenwarrior1186 what

[@goldenwarrior1186]

@@ej-jz5rc I think whatever I replied to got deleted (I deleted my reply to avoid confusion)

[@ej-jz5rc]

@@goldenwarrior1186 you replied to pamka

[@goldenwarrior1186]

@@ej-jz5rc maybe I somehow replied in the wrong thread?

[@Bismuth9]

Man that triple star spawn was amazing though

[@DoorknobPlus]

yo an unnoticed bismuth comment? pog

[@indetermite]

@@DoorknobPlus very much

[@JK17-1]

3rd

[@Merluch]

Hi

[@nicoborken9963]

you gonna do it or what

[@canariobelga4622]

0:34 "(I've attempted this more times than I'd like to admit, simply out of boredom and desperation)" This line applies in so many fields of my life.

[@theSato]

That feel when you start up a Pannenkoek video damn-well knowing that it's nothing but crushed hopes and dreams from the get-go., :(

[@kubapolish]

_"hopes and dreams"_ You're filled with DETERMINATION!.... no wait, no no no pls no

[@felixblazik2820]

Please stop. It's a common phrase unrelated to Undertale beyond being the name of one of the songs on the soundtrack.

[@theSato]

Felix Blazik Who cares, let them make references to things they like, not hurting anyone.

[@MFG1243]

That feeling when you had hope but it still gets crushed and it feels even worse.

[@madeformario]

wendy's: its like visiting a McDonalds

[@YTSunnys]

This is one of my favorite KZbin channels.

[@acousticpark6881]

Hi

[@Odyssey_Central]

Agreed

[@Kirboru]

YTSunny yes

[@maritoguionyo]

yeet

[@nonexistor]

Have you subscribed?

[@letcreate123]

6 years and half later, the chest star is now dead (kind of, it's 0.5x, but still an a press save), using precisely the idea on 3:31

[@ZerolinGD]

don't say kind of, I'd say it's a 100% win :)

[@NoNameAtAll2]

​@@ZerolinGDit's 100% win, but the press is only 50% dead

[@Kass686]

Pannenkoek: "So we can't collect this star because of reasons. Do you wanna see a super in-depth graph detailing these reasons?" Viewer: "well not rea-" Pannenkoek: "TOO BAD HAVE A GRAPH" I love it

[@the_duke_of_gravity]

I LOVE HIS GRAPHS

[@AnonYmous-pt8kf]

Pannenkoek: "So we can't collect this star because of reasons. Do you wanna see a super in-depth graph detailing these reasons?" Viewer: "Yes, of course" Pannenkoek: "Ok"

[@coolgaming3000]

Peasant's Rondo mcdonalds im lovin it

[@BobblyBob-zf3bh]

Could you not collect this star in the demo and thus any A presses wouldn't count towards the actual file?

[@upbtvo2585]

i do

[@Numberplay]

still waiting for the day when pannen makes a video show 9 ideas that fail and then the tenth actually works.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

He wouldn’t do that, if there was a working idea then he’d just show that.

[@aturchomicz821]

@@want-diversecontent3887 Hes a very straight forward man eh?

[@ndre90]

@@aturchomicz821 no, he simply is a researcher more than a youtuber

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

@@ndre90 he's a mario 64 theoretical physicist

[@shadybandit7]

@@ENCHANTMEN_ scientist

[@MadCatNobody]

at least it's still kinda funny to see mario inside the chest...

[@SSDARKPIT]

Yeah, "inside the chest" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@daguido742]

maio in a box what will he do

[@icegod4849]

@@daguido742 commit several war crimes intentionally violating the Geneva Convention

[@Dougy]

This video was made because one of the developers probably got a twitch on his hand which forced the star a few units higher.

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

Ok, so basically we are left with almost no options. We know that there's no way to gain additional height, as we know that from trying to get out of the cage in SSL. The only way we could do this is A: discover a new glitch that allows us to clone using a shell or gain height randomly, or B: have Nintendo re-release super Mario 64 everywhere with all the Japanese glitches and make some of the damn stars spawn lower to the damn ground. Or just change the Goombas in JRB to scuttlebugs.

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

I gotta say, this star is easily the most frustrating. The star is literally *right there*, and it feels like surely one of our techniques should easily get that star, but no! If only the devs placed the star slightly lower 😔

[@scantyer]

Ikr it's infuriating

[@angelcaru]

Or made the ship slippery

[@DoctorCyan]

I honestly think the ABC challenge would be worse without this seemingly easy star being so out of reach. Taunting us. Torturing us. Some other stars just have so many obstacles, but this... we will break this. We'll find something

[@jerpidude8416]

good news

[@Nbrother1234]

What about the box star in PSS

[@Kamodomon]

Got recommended this after the JRB Treasure of the Ocean Cave 0.5xA. Interesting to see submitted ideas vs what was done to solve the issue. Very cool.

[@Muzer0]

Love that this video is finally obsolete! :D

[@ThePondermatic]

Never has a topic so dry and technical made me feel so disappointed in the fundamental unfairness of the world.

[@masicbemester]

Audiblade He won't press your icon.

[@rovertronic]

its not blue so it aint real

[@aviinthepast]

Our goal is to Clone in JRB. We can do this ABC crew

[@goldenwarrior1186]

After 4 years, still waiting...

[@sunbuYT]

I honestly came back hoping for new ideas and I keep trying to think of new ones, but there seems to be absolutely no way.

[@aviinthepast]

four years and just nothing. damn

[@TheLoveMario]

DAMN! If only they included a useless-in-regular-gameplay cork box

[@groszak1]

If only I could time travel back and add 2 bob-ombs, on this level and in BitFS before the pole to clone the goombas for goomba ladder.

[@computercat8694]

While you're at it, add a goomba cluster to Tick Tock Clock.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

ComputerCat No, only goombas in the triangle formation.

[@shrilleth]

groszak1 well in that case you might as well just lower the star

[@Ghi102]

And it turns out Suggestion #6 is finally what brought it down to 0.5 A presses!

[@Chttrbox88]

You should make one of these videos right after you discover a new way of getting a star. Then you can throw everyone for a loop by having one of the suggestions actually work.

[@Pokehero]

I always hope with these videos he'll do it some time

[@eimazd]

"Dive recover into a cloned bob-omb explosion boosted by a 100-coin star dance: Huh, how about that." *comments go absolutely ballistic*

[@Bad-Sir]

That would be great. It wouldn't even be the last suggestion, it would just be somewhere in the middle to make sure you were paying attention.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I would never do that. If I try something that works, then I don't have to make a video showing all the failed suggestions. Instead, I'd just make a video showing the thing that did work and call it a day. Throughout ABC history, many difficulties have been solved by some technique, at which point there was no more point of focusing on all the other techniques that didn't work

[@UncommentatedPannen]

In fact, I deliberately postpone making videos of this type, because if just one idea succeeds, then I don't have to make the video at all. So it's like I'm holding out hoping that something works. But eventually when I give up, I'll document all the ideas so that other people can take a look at my progress so far and future-me can easily return to the video to see if I missed anything if new info/techniques come about

[@ImSquiggs]

This is the remaining A press that fascinates me the most. There's so many ways that can almost solve it that I feel like we're just one small mechanical discovery away from breaking one of them open. The fact the different near-solutions are all so different is also really interesting, because that small mechanical discovery could be almost anything and it might relate to one of them. I just know we will see this one solved one day and I can't wait to see what does it!

[@FireballFlareblitz734]

maybe if there was a way to clone the koopa shell?

[@kiwi_2_official]

the ones that fascinate me the most are the slide and wmotr

[@mikifauns]

I think the worse part is that all stars within Tick Tock Clock are now possible yet this star still remains the one which is currently impossible. Would honestly be hilarious if all stars were possible EXCEPT this one. Edit: Welp, looks like I have to eat my words. The mad lads did it. Hats off.

[@mistabean9272]

wow, you nailed it. we got it

[@ImSquiggs]

@@mistabean9272 No way! It’s been done? Super exciting!! I can’t wait to see which one of the methods did it, haha

[@l9m241]

Well, maybe we _could_ shave off half an A press... Random Question: Could you do a documentation on the Mario behind the Mirror? What interactions does He have, what happens if he got damaged, etc, etc.

[@marioisawesome8218]

That would be cool.

[@CheeseYeen]

I agree, this sounds interesting.

[@abcq2]

I've seen it before, including hacking to summon it outside the mirror. It doesn't have any collisions, just takes all its cues from Mario. Also pretty sure it doesn't move if outside the mirror room (there might be an object in there to indicate the center?), but it will walk into the non-mirror side if Mario noclips into the mirror

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I don't know anything about it though

[@l9m241]

RESEARCH COMMENCE! lol

[@staterbrosmilk]

How to get all stars in zero A presses.. Rebind the jump key to B That's a joke by the way, keep up the work, you always find a new way to amaze me ;)

[@Qbe_Root]

And then you can’t grab objects, and then you can’t get the very first star from the very first level. :3

[@rotalsh]

Even better: play the game on a emulator and use a keyboard not including the a button

[@theSato]

Then you can just map B onto a different button. Put something useless on A, such as C-up or L or a d-pad direction. Problem solved.

[@staterbrosmilk]

Rebind A to 5* Would that work :3

[@CeeZero]

is there such thing as a B button challange ?

[@brianpso]

This star is laughing at us right now. So close yet so fucking hard to reach.

[@the_lava_wielder6996]

What if you generated backwards speed on a slippery slope but used AB kicks instead of C^ to preserve speed, and then used that speed and jumped off the pillar?

[@lmaoeyisdead]

LMFAOOOOOO

[@agoodduck]

could you HSWS on the ship? you're said that most slopes you can frame walk on dont work with the c^trick, but you also said there are some exceptions...

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Hmmm, I'll test that

[@welcoe]

+pannenkeok2012 Yay!

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Nope. The ship isn't slippery either: i.imgur.com/jMdtdit.gifv

[@RarefoilB]

+pannenkeok2012 Any glitches with the two sliding boxes?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

There's just one sliding box. And no there's no known useful exploits there

[@Aja-OP1]

I had a dream where I met Pannen irl and we managed to get this star 0x. Basically, we discovered it’s possible, under certain circounstrances to walljump by pressing B, which allowed us to collect the star.

[@supermarioluigi9053]

Wow. Interesting.

[@lillithplays6514]

Crazy that this is one of the final 14.

[@markoadam6619]

not the final 13 tho

[@floppa_gamer1111]

@@markoadam6619 it do be gone

[@Seth_M-T]

And there was me thinking that the treasure chest star was one of the easiest to get in the game...

[@InvaderWakkoReborn]

After all these years it's finally 0.5x A presses. See you guys in another 6 years when it's finally 0x.

[@JorgetePanete]

Just use the A Bu- **SLAP**

[@ashtonsmith1730]

Yes, use the B button to slap, **B**

[@InterstellarVulpine]

I'm so early the A button hasn't even been released yet.

[@ariss3304]

nice avatar

[@InterstellarVulpine]

thanks bb

[@MaddoScientist0]

That moment at 11:09 when it's shown that the goomba's lower body is actually a ball

[@gdnght_grl183]

I was /just/ about to ask why you couldn't use the trajectory of collecting the 100 coin star like in your TF run, but then I remembered not only can you not collect 2 stars at once, but you can't clone anything in JRB, including sufficient coins to be close enough to the star God, it's so fun learning all this stuff about the game from you

[@scatteraxis]

what a cheeky little star it's probably enjoying how hard you're trying to collect it with your broken A button and all

[@philhutchinson5885]

For #6, you say there are no slippery surfaces in JRB. However, did you fully check the floating ship? Due to the oscillations, the main walls become slopes which are too steep to walk on, and so you might get an HSW out of them.

[@julian1000]

You are correct, for example the pillars in the way are extremely steep but not slippery.

[@HeyKevinYT]

He made a video on traveling up the ship by frame-walking. On a separate video, he said that if a slope can be frame-walked on, then the slope is non-slippery and therefore you wouldn’t be able to execute HSWS.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Kevin vs. Gamingz There's an exception though. The pyramid. You can framewalk on it.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

T Perm But you can do the C^ trick

[@goldenwarrior1186]

I don’t think the slippery slope would last long enough for HSWing to build up a significant amount of speed

[@SarahBlackburn1337]

For the record, I'm avidly watching this channel every day for updates, because though I am nowhere near as well versed in this game as you, I am as eager to see those A presses disappear. Please keep at it! Videos like this are always fascinating, seeing you explore a theory.

[@ColonelPanic0]

Has anyone's random suggestion for saving A presses actually ever worked?

[@natnew32]

There's the perdo spot, but that's not exactly a "random suggestion."

[@inactivewhiteboard940]

Ric P it's not a "random" suggestion

[@agoodduck]

Actually yes, pretty recently someone suggested a way to exit TTC with spawning displacement is the pit and the pedulums, which worked.

[@connfdm]

that person tested it and confirmed it worked though

[@daniagutierrez78]

If he did, he would give credit.

[@Zerio105]

Would crawling affect HSW at all, such as Mario's interaction with the ceiling in Suggestion 7? Or is crawling even possible during HSW?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I don't know, but I could test it

[@connorgibes709]

@@UncommentatedPannen did you?

[@irxosm1]

@@connorgibes709 guess not

[@mikifauns]

@@connorgibes709 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXuUo5aDgs6sp9k Sadly, it doesn't work. :(

[@cat2.096]

in the beginning I thought _Didn't you even think of the jump before the dive? you're literally the smartest sm64 person existing!_

[@PuffyOne1898]

I’m here from the future. He got it in .5 A presses finally

[@TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY]

7:51 mario is mad that he isn't able to collect the star with 0x presses

[@renakunisaki]

You can't stand on chests? Weird. I always thought you could.

[@potatoonastick2239]

On the DS version you can

[@abcdefzhij]

You can in Ocarina of Time so it feels weird to see chests in SM64 that you can't stand on lol

[@HeyKevinYT]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@ad964]

Kevin vs. Gamingz Giggity.

[@SpikeOriundo]

There wouldn't be an "easy" way to for Mario to reach vertical PUs, would there? And if there was some way, would it be possible to get the star that way?

[@Qbe_Root]

I think the only known way to reach vertical PUs so far is to manipulate Fly Guy’s size and jump on it, but the only thing you can do after that is twirl down into an OoB zone and crash the game because there’s no floor.

[@timpunny]

+Qbe Root *fly guy

[@Qbe_Root]

Timothy Gunter Fixed, thanks!

[@Qbe_Root]

Game Buster The idea would be to use vertical PU travel to get back to the star on the main map, but yeah, unless we take hyper speed flying far beyond its current capabilities, it’s not happening (let alone in JRB and without A presses). I forgot Fly Guy’s size manipulation could only cause it to shrink. I guess pannenkoek has tested this through, but maybe another timing could interrupt its animation while it’s larger than its original size?

[@heave-ho6864]

+Qbe Root Right now the only things that we can get to a vertical PU are scuttlebugs. :/

[@kssm]

2:38 can't you get 110 speed from that one pillar outside the cave? with good speed conservation, it might be possible.

[@wompy1126]

new pannenkeok vid? watch immediately

[@KaguyaH]

It's really nice to see more content lately. (with the other video posted the other day) I really love your videos and I've been watching them a lot lately.

[@andy02q]

The Slide Kick would work with 90 speed, so if you could manage to pull of 50 chained slide kicks, land on the rock with another chained slide kick, then you could chain another slide kick to the star? According to your 100 Lap Video 90 speed is the exact amount that Slide Kicks cap at. (Though while recovering, not while landing, so maybe that destroys it already.)

[@want-diversecontent3887]

andy02q Slide kick recovering requires A.

[@computercat8694]

In Thwomp 6x, the side kick recover at the end is actually a grind dive recover.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Oh cool we have no edge to grind on very helpful

[@jacfac9969]

It’s crazy to think that this A press out of all the ones that have been cut with crazy creative strategies still stands despite being so simple on the surface. Just a couple more units of height is all it would take

[@grassdigger8695]

Hey pannen, someone mentioned last video if there was a way to keep the demo from ending at the designated time, and it got me thinking a little. What if there is text on screen from reading a sign or talking to a bomb buddy as the demo ends, or if you're in a cannon? In regular gameplay, it's impossible to exit the game or die with one of the above parameters in effect, so I'm curious how the game would respond.

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

The most likely possibility is for it to end anyway. Unless it's bound to some death system, but dying in the demo causes the music to reset.

[@zachrohbock6821]

Super late reply, but in Simpleflips’ Green Demon challenge he dies in all kinds of places, including in cannons and with text. All that happens is as soon as he lands or closes the text he dies and you can’t collect stars with 0 HP. I don’t know if the demo would cause something different but death won’t effect those to situations.

[@NickGore-rf2dd]

I like that you say infeasible instead of impossible.

[@Creeper43yt]

Have you tried both vertical and horizontal speed to reach the star?

[@arc1279]

So, in short, if we can figure out how to do any of the following things 0x, we can save an A press: -DR 24 units higher somehow -Clone objects using the shell -Build up 90+ speed in the cavern somehow -Get to the 500 h speed mark anywhere -Activate VCS under the star -Somehow get to a high enough vantage point where a slide kick can reach the star -Acheive time travel and go back to 1995 and put a gomba cluster under the star OTHER NOTES -Can HSWing be repeated once you're forced out of the water? Does your h speed reset? -Does getting the 100 coin star help at all? - SCUTTLEBUG TRANSPORTATION????? (sorry for the meme)

[@megagroundpound9460]

ARC127 or just change jump to b This is just a small joke

[@connfdm]

good luck conserving that speed to the star

[@mariophreak]

How do you do scuttlebug transportation when there are no scuttlubugs?

[@spazzwazzle]

I wonder if this is possible now. I've seen Simple clone a water shell in DDD by throwing it when he was re-entering water. If Pannen completed the chest puzzle and came back with a cloned shell, it could work. I'm surely missing something, though.

[@CookieFonster]

if it is ever found out to be possible, pannenkoek will no doubt make a video on it.

[@DoorknobPlus]

im pretty sure you can only clone with water shells in DDD because there is a loading zone in it, which reloads all the objects in the level, which includes the shell, allowing you to clone

[@spazzwazzle]

@@DoorknobPlus Damn pencil, you write

[@Yoshiller]

Okay, so I'm just gonna throw a few ideas out here, and I apologize if a few of them seem ridiculous. I don't know if any of them will work, but I feel like they're worth mentioning. I really like Suggestion 6 in this video, and these ideas are for that suggestion: 1) Is there anything you can do with the box that slides back and forth on the ship's surface? Is there a way you can get that box to clip you into an area where you can build up speed? 2) Can the ship ITSELF be used in any way to build up speed? I don't know if it qualifies as a slippery surface, but can its slopes allow you to get into areas where you can build speed? 3) Since the entire cave section is beneath a ceiling, is there any sort of way to enter a "pedro spot?" As in, is there a way that you can gain enough height so that you can get stuck in an area where Mario technically gets stuck in the ceiling? And from there, would you be able to build enough speed? Perhaps all of these ideas are not doable, but I just wanted to suggest them anyway. If I knew how to create .m64 files, I'd try 'em myself, but for the time being, I was just wondering if you'd be willing to test any of these. Thank you for your time, koek (keok), and I wish you luck with your A-button challenge!

[@UncommentatedPannen]

(1) There is not any known way to exploit it. Even if it formed a pedro spot somehow, it moves, and so we couldn't stay in said pedro spot for more than a second. (2) The ship is not slippery. If the ship formed a pedro spot, it wouldn't help, since it moves. (3) A pedro spot requires a floor and ceiling in close proximity. This does not happen in the cave.

[@tincan8979]

Simply hold the A Button and jumpkick onto the star. Boom, JRB done in half an A Press.

[@DoorknobPlus]

kick doesnt supply enough height.

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

I'm starting to think once you hit 25 a presses, it simply won't be possible to save anymore. Then we gonna have to do a B challenge run.

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

the hardest A press to save will be the last one cause of 0.5 a presses

[@potatoonastick2239]

About 40 or so a presses ago pannenkoek didn't think he could save any more, and yet here we are

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

Yea he was at 39 and dropped it to 31.

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

He has some no buttons challenges and some no joystick challenges. Maybe there's a way to do that.

[@craftyawesome6830]

+Daniel Baker The only real b save was manipulating the baby penguin to the cannon and using it to grab him. I think plush did this.

[@AlittleEileen]

This is probably something that was checked already but. Wouldn't it be possible to perform the hat in hand glitch to remotely throw the koopa shell mid-jump to the star or to give a boost using the koopa shell geometry ?

[@TheOneSevenNine]

i come back to this 5-year old video every so often when i want to relive the disappointment

[@Crazy___Ginger]

Looks like Suggestion 6 was the solution. Just took some extra work figuring out the route

[@Lugmillord]

"Let's examine these suggestions" - oh no... when I read this in one of your videos I know nothing will work :( As for the hyper speed water sliding - what properties does the side of the ship have? You managed to walk up there, but what kind of wall is it? like the pillars (and thus useless)? This star is so annoying! It's hanging right in front of you but just a tiny bit too far away, grr!

[@thecommentato4]

11:30 couldn’t you use the ground pound to get height after s the star was collected? I mean that looks like just enough to collect the star.

[@DoorknobPlus]

you cant groundpound after a DR so no

[@thecommentato4]

ERROR_Anything ah, Thanks.

[@SgvSth]

So, cloning would be the most promising should a new discovery be made.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Speed now. We can get 150 speed now.

[@genderender]

Damn, over 4 years later and we have nothing that could help do this 0x

[@SKCro.]

9:23: What if you spawned the star, went back and cloned the shell, and went back to the star? Would that work?

[@ProPPlayer]

you can't clone in jrb

[@poltuu]

I wonder how far the 100 horizontal speed combined with some goomba bounce would go? I guess not very ?

[@SuperGamerMiner]

It's almost as if Nintendo knew that people would want to collect stars in unconventional ways and designed the level specifically to make it impossible.

[@sm64guy28]

At the same time there are so many stars that can be unconventionally collected without A, there are only 19 a presses remaining

[@komos63]

What if you somehow clone a goomba with hat in hand glitch, then clone its spawner? We'd need to find a way to make 2 clones though and the second one has to be made while not leaving the spawners radius. Or just spend another 5 years finding ACE to lower the star slightly lol

[@hikibum]

Made my night fam.

[@OctainServers]

Using the HOLP, could you place an object in the out-of-bounds shown at 6:23 and interact with it when you clip through the wall? For example, could you place a (cloned?) Goomba there and collide with it so the knockback kills your H speed?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I guess. But we can't get through that gap anyway

[@jaydentt]

pannen: **has no stars** also pannen: if we spawn three stars, our example is in LLL, by the way,

[@solstlce4278]

I learn more from this channel than i've ever in school

[@Jasmine__135]

Greetings from the future, we did it

[@Odyssey_Central]

I have an idea for killing the mystery goomba if you hacked in a way to do the shell glitch from you video SM64 - Mario she'll glitch and grab a chuckya, in the video he was still able to throw you, maybe he could throw you on the mystery goomba because it looked like he threw you past the death barrier (could just be me)

[@ellie8272]

I'm convinced this has to be possible somehow

[@Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb3]

at 3:26, are there clonable entities that have edges and can be walked on, thus reactivating vsc?

[@skyblade57]

what if you managed to get a 100 coin star just below the star? can you collect a star mid-star dance?

[@HeyKevinYT]

lol I dont think so but nice idea

[@Mateo-vz4fl]

skytheguy you can't get the 100 coin star under the chest star, the only way to do that is to either clone the star or a coin and cloning doesn't work in JRB

[@ashtonsmith1730]

@@Mateo-vz4fl even if we could then stars aren't collectable during the star dance state

[@ashtonsmith1730]

I don't think so at leadt

[@ashtonsmith1730]

least*

[@WAGMILLC]

This video is like a mystery themed blue balling

[@agoodduck]

couldn't you get ~100 speed from the pillar, then use that speed to get 90 speed at the rock, then slide kick into the star?

[@HeyKevinYT]

no

[@HeyKevinYT]

You would end up depleting your speed as you travel to the rock.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Kevin vs. Gamingz But is there enough speed to make it before it depletes?

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Kevin vs. Gamingz Also there's new tech for about 150 speed.

[@supermarioluigi9053]

The speed keeps reducing while moonwlking. 100 in water, but less than 90 on the rock. (Even 150 isn't enough, it would still be less than 90 on the rock).

[@tuckermatis1572]

I get the feeling that if a way to kill the mystery goomba from BitS is ever found, a similar technique could be used to reach the star as per suggestion #8. So that's two birds, we just need to find the stone.

[@fernando98322]

We did it

[@rogersasanka3408]

2:40 Thats where hyperspeed slide kicking comes into play

[@laxxius]

one day. we'll get it one day

[@Riptide314]

1:31 "And even if Mario manages to become dead-center in a chest, all that happens is that he won't be pushed out." 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗼 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝟲𝟰 𝗙𝗹𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀

[@ssbmKhalid]

For number 9, couldn't you first open up the chests to release the star, and then go grab the fake shell; means you wouldn't need to get up there holding the fake shell?

[@keithbellic2629]

Star's already loaded hence it won't 'load' into the fake shell's slot.

[@katari8604]

7:40, can we do anything with that vacant area above the star and left to the goombas ?

[@moth.monster]

I've strted doing the button chllenge on my computer! I'm doing well so fr.

[@AndonutsJeff]

Good luck my dude

[@moth.monster]

+AndonutsJeff Thnk you!

[@epsilon6869]

+post #617166 you cn do it!

[@terdthetoad]

dude try hrder i know you cn do it bro I KNOW YOU CN DO IT!!

[@groszak1]

I can do better, using ctrl+v to enter a.

[@t1glistenerelf]

If this doesn't already have a solution, then would you be able to set the HOLP below the stage such that the peak of the out-of-bounds item's sphere radius is in the center of the star platform? In this way, you could activate the chests (by avoiding the middle), then reactivate it in order to gain height. The spherical shape may force you to use the rock in suggestion #4 to get to the platform without activating it, though.

[@supreme-ss777]

The DS remake allows you to dive recover into the chest star.

[@ctb3335]

Oh come on! Really?! **displeasement**

[@lolmuffen8604]

Can you c-up slide on the rock? Or use the shell to slide off the rock onto the platform

[@duncanthesniper5860]

He already got the star bro

[@lolmuffen8604]

@@duncanthesniper5860 o ok

[@isaac_aren]

We've half done it boys

[@theescargotconsumer]

At 2:38, you say that Mario needs 90 speed to slide kick to the star. Mario can develop up to 150 speed in JRB with current strats, so could you use that to get to the rock and slidekick to the star?

[@ovrsurge4689]

Hyper speed punching to gain speed?

[@Tranman64]

You can do that, but allows you to only get 150 speed. You need 280 speed

[@bucketfullabiscuits7865]

It's a hard knock life, for us It's a hard know life, for us!

[@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353]

How the hell did you get in that treasure chest

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Hacks. But in theory, it should be possible to just land in there with a super precise trajectory. However, since it doesn't actually lead to anything useful, it's not worth the effort

[@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353]

pannenkeok2012 How did you do that at 7:51 (push the Goomba) is that a gameshark code? I would love to have it if it is! And how are you still holding the shell when you get out the water?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I hacked in a bob-omb, grabbed it, then hacked Mario to no longer be holding it. This results in the bob-omb being limbo. For more info on that, watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIvchnqKbr6Dnsk

[@UncommentatedPannen]

And concerning bringing the shell out of water, I simply press B to throw it right before I exit the water

[@hylus5d10]

About idea 06, would it be possible to put an object with hitbox in the corner so it keeps Mario in it? Edit: will not work for the same reason as 09.

[@Mylexsi]

I thought repeated slide kicks could reach ~92 speed, at least based on that 100-lap video. I'm assuming I'm missing something; just wanna know what it is.

[@deldeerouge744]

Mylexsi Recovering from slide kick requires an A press and reaching 92 speed requires multiple slide kick recovers

[@Mapiz]

Is there a way you use the Shell Mario glitch to gain enough forward momentum and then maybe use a dive recover/slide kick from the rock nearby to reach the star?

[@InfoTeddy]

The water shell is a completely different object from the land shell. You can't ride the water shell in any way, so there's no way to do the shell Mario glitch with it.

[@leafcooper7140]

Would it be considered cheating to play on WiiU VC and reconfigure jump to Y?

[@RemiBoyz]

Yes

[@cpcraft6984]

Yes, I think so.

[@teamawesomeness7137]

then you'd try to collect certain stars in 0.5* y presses.

[@snbeast9545]

That wouldn't count, because you're still pressing a virtual A button.

[@noahcacovski7292]

So would the next step be trying to figure out how to clone in JRB? Because that would seem to solve the issue.