Dealer sells hurricane damaged RV to unsuspecting buyers

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Liz Amazing

Liz Amazing

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@LizAmazing
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@reginaglennhill5097
@reginaglennhill5097 2 күн бұрын
Thank you Liz and thank you to all the guests that come on your show. This is big help for my husband and i.
@skylershank9309
@skylershank9309 2 күн бұрын
Unfortunately for the naive consumer, they buy junk from unscrupulous dealers. The disappointment, inconvenience and money spent aren't worth it.
@caniacstevehenderson7115
@caniacstevehenderson7115 2 күн бұрын
The state AG office needs to investigate that dealership for fraud
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
That's a good tip. Thanks for this, Steve!
@caniacstevehenderson7115
@caniacstevehenderson7115 2 күн бұрын
@LizAmazing Anytime Liz ...Anytime
@kdtune33
@kdtune33 2 күн бұрын
Plus the BBB.
@3138302
@3138302 2 күн бұрын
This is the exact message I was going to post. I agree 100% with you. I have contacted AG's offices in various states regarding companies and once they got involved those companies fully cooperated. The only thing I would offer is when they contact the AG's office, they should provide them with as much documentation as possible to help prove that fraud was committed. Hopefully the way they found out from Alliance about the insurance claim made by the dealership is in an email. That email would be gold for the AG's office.
@caniacstevehenderson7115
@caniacstevehenderson7115 2 күн бұрын
@3138302 exactly correct
@jeffreyswanson2207
@jeffreyswanson2207 2 күн бұрын
I’m not even a RV’r but I watch your videos every week Liz. You’re doing great work fighting for the common person. You should be proud!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Jeffrey. I'm definitely taking on the whole industry!!! Glad you are here and appreciate your support!
@gentoolive
@gentoolive 2 күн бұрын
I found Liz while doing research on a new RV i planned to retire and see the country in. Man am i glad i found her, i've changed retirement plans and wouldn't touch one of these things with a 10' pole.
@B1970TBronze
@B1970TBronze 2 күн бұрын
Neither am I , but I absolutely enjoy your complete and unabated dedication for justice and fairness.
@Rob-m9s
@Rob-m9s 2 күн бұрын
I'm not a RV'er either, and I've learned from this channel not to be. The manufacturers are making absolute junk now and charging house prices . . .
@marzman9822
@marzman9822 Күн бұрын
@@Rob-m9s Me too Rob. I stumbled upon Liz's channel a few weeks ago and can only conclude that many, many (maybe most?) RVs are crap sold by unscrupulous dealers.
@fg3568
@fg3568 2 күн бұрын
Absolute FRAUD! Selling a previously damaged RV as new? The dealer needs to be held accountable. BUY IT BACK!!!
@richardcampbell9225
@richardcampbell9225 2 күн бұрын
Exactly. It seems Alliance wants to help, but the real crook here is the dealer!
@CeruleanSky1111
@CeruleanSky1111 2 күн бұрын
The dealership should be sued for fraud and held accountable.
@RS-gh2mf
@RS-gh2mf 2 күн бұрын
That would be like trying to hold our corrupt government accountable 😂
@RamTrucks590
@RamTrucks590 Күн бұрын
Clearly fraud. There are laws about sell water damaged cars and an RV should be no different.
@mileshigh1321
@mileshigh1321 2 күн бұрын
The dealer didn't reveal that the RV went through a Hurricane and got damaged! That is fraudulent and they should buy it back!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
It sure seems that way, but I'm not a legal expert. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
@icare7151
@icare7151 2 күн бұрын
The dealer should be arrested immediately as they are violating federal, and state laws.
@texaslady7630
@texaslady7630 2 күн бұрын
Agree.
@akm03051
@akm03051 2 күн бұрын
@@icare7151please state the laws that they are breaking.
@milliewilliams3997
@milliewilliams3997 2 күн бұрын
Isn't thar insurance fraud as well?
@abubbleoff1742
@abubbleoff1742 2 күн бұрын
As a former RV mechanic, do not purchase an RV unless you want headaches. Not worth it.
@freeian2
@freeian2 2 күн бұрын
Would your sentiment include fiberglass travel trailers? Thanks.
@lenb3661
@lenb3661 2 күн бұрын
I’m not an RV mechanic, but I am an electrician and have 40+ years experience with construction and also mobile equipment. The construction techniques being used by the RV industry in recent years are not adequate for what an RV goes through. Glue won’t hold trim molding on. Staples won’t hold cabinets together. Poor workmanship and fit up won’t keep water out and sealants won’t work properly trying to fill huge gaps. RVs go through hell on the roads. Imagine your house suffering an earthquake every day on the road. Frames twist, body panels flex, etc. Then throw in often poorly installed wiring and plumbing, etc. Then add the many RVs that are parked in the hot sun - or frozen north - or extreme humidity- extreme environments that adds to problems even without putting a mile on the wheel bearings. My wife’s and my solution - we built our own van. I would also consider building my own on a box truck chassis or modernizing an older RV that was built before they started going downhill in the 20teens. And be sure to do the math on ownership and operating costs. Even a van costs over a dollar a mile to operate considering initial cost, depreciation, maintenance, fuel, etc. Larger units cost two to three times that. They aren’t worth owning if only used a couple weeks a year.
@tomstiel7576
@tomstiel7576 Күн бұрын
@@lenb3661 your exactly right,had a diesel higher end pusher,,while talking to the technition,he said,they put a plastic box on a truck chassis,,,and you beat it to death while driving down the road,,after working on it myself,I can confirm,,,never ever again
@truckn
@truckn 20 сағат бұрын
All these issues with RV's has me very thankful I decided to do my Winters in Asia. So much cheaper, 0 headaches. Keep up the good work Liz you're Amazing and travel safely now that your back in your RV. Be well.
@artbrutnewyork
@artbrutnewyork 2 күн бұрын
Don’t accept the 10k offer. They committed fraud.Ask for full refund or sue! Also, I would stop making DIY repairs ASAP as they might claim you caused damage/voided warranties.
@onrycodger
@onrycodger 2 күн бұрын
I have the feeling that there's gonna be tons of flooded camper's hit marketplace real soon.
@tomstiel7576
@tomstiel7576 Күн бұрын
and cars
@fitfogey
@fitfogey 2 күн бұрын
Such a cute couple. Unreal that the dealership would treat such good people this way.
@martimcgaughey249
@martimcgaughey249 2 күн бұрын
This one is on the dealer!,
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Agreed. I hope they do the right thing! Thanks for watching. Marti!
@Bruin4Life
@Bruin4Life 2 күн бұрын
I think they should sue the dealer for selling them the RV as “NEW” when it was hurricane damaged and the dealer had claimed insurance on the unit and made repairs! It was NOT a new unit!😮 And the dealer did not appraise them of the hurricane damage!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
That's a good point and it may come to that. Thanks for your comment, and for watching!
@joygarrett8397
@joygarrett8397 2 күн бұрын
It would be different if they Chose to buy a damaged/repaired unit at a Greatly discounted rate, but that isn’t what happened apparently. They were outright Lied to. If Allisnce was smart, not only would They force the buyback (full price plus $$ for inconvenience, oop costs, travel, etc) But Also dissolve their partnership with this fraudulent dealership!!
@thorsrensen3162
@thorsrensen3162 2 күн бұрын
If the dealerwill not take it back they shouuld take a horrible revenge on the owner and his family members. There are a lot of various tools that can be used to make the ownwe of the company.
@NoName-zq6ic
@NoName-zq6ic 2 күн бұрын
If it was ran through an insurance claim, would it not have a Prior Salvage Title issued?
@akm03051
@akm03051 2 күн бұрын
@@NoName-zq6iconly if it was totaled.
@patricktompkins1103
@patricktompkins1103 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been looking at 5th wheel trailers for a year, but watching your weekly videos I’ve finally decided to never purchase an RV. Hotel rooms, lodges, cabins, etc. will forever be our overnight lodging.
@randyholloway920
@randyholloway920 2 күн бұрын
Best decision ever! I think people get too excited over these monster rigs. They cost so much, most people would be further ahead if they bought a small house or condo in any small affordable city in anywhere, USA or abroad and just doing van life to travel.
@Cestdelamerde
@Cestdelamerde 2 күн бұрын
A tent would be far less trouble.
@patricktompkins1103
@patricktompkins1103 2 күн бұрын
@ I do a lot of tent camping, it’s great.
@NeverHaveKids
@NeverHaveKids Күн бұрын
I assure you, this is the way to go. Use your own reliable car/vehicle. Sedan or SUV, perfectly fine to pack for weeks, even months. AirBnB, VBRO, cabin, lots of deals to be had for weekly rentals, even better if you rent for a month. I assure you, it is much, *much* better -- and far cheaper -- to rent an AirBnB for weeks, even months, versus spending six figures on a defective RV, insuring it, the enormous fuel cost, and dealing with all the defects. Regular kitchen, one or more bathrooms with plumbing that works, perhaps multiple bedrooms, usually excellent wifi. And you can stay as long, or as short, as you wish. Another bonus is you never ever have to worry about parking, tunnels, camping, rules, power, hookups, gray and black water tanks, dumping stations, showers, food spoiling in the RV, and on and on. Your sedan or SUV will go anywhere and everywhere with ease. Will never understand, never, why people continue to spend significant sums on these atrocious RV products, when far cheaper, and superior, accommodations are so readily available. And the ultimate bonus is, when you are done with the trip, lock the door and leave. No further responsibility, no maintenance, no replacing tires and brakes and changing oil and fixing all the crap that breaks in these overpriced junkboxes.
@norm5785
@norm5785 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing. They should buy the RV back without question.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
I think so! Thank you for your support!
@danettehead7353
@danettehead7353 2 күн бұрын
I think this is on the dealer, but the manufacturer should be backing the buyer and tell the dealer to do right by these people
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
That's an excellent point, thank you for saying so!
@jasonlarsen3515
@jasonlarsen3515 2 күн бұрын
The manufacturer sold the rv to the dealer. The manufacturer had no responsibility here
@Mark-hb5zf
@Mark-hb5zf 2 күн бұрын
@@jasonlarsen3515 If the problems weren't related to storm damage, but rather poor workmanship from the factory, then the manufacturer should be liable.
@DrMott
@DrMott 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your advocacy!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thank you, so glad to be making a difference! Have a nice weekend!
@Justmakingobservations
@Justmakingobservations 2 күн бұрын
The problem is not limited to the Southeast. Many unscrupulous dealers are transporting these hurricane damaged RVs to others parts of the country. If you're in the Southeast, possible hurricane damage may be on your mind as you consider a purchase. But if that same RV has been brought North or West, potential buyers simply aren't even considering hurricane damage as a possibility. More than ever, pre-purchase inspections are vital!
@chuckwilson1751
@chuckwilson1751 2 күн бұрын
glad i see tnese videos. everytime is see one on the road i feel pity for the poor people. we were thinking about spending 89 thousand on a nice new big motor home but now no way. motels for us from now on. thanks for these videos, you just saved us from 90 thousand dollars of misery.
@cowgirlval5216
@cowgirlval5216 2 күн бұрын
Oh good grief!!! Yes this is a buy back! God bless these people! Thanks so much Liz!!!❤
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Val. It is pretty ridiculous, isn't it? I hope you have a great weekend!
@Cord_uRoy89
@Cord_uRoy89 2 күн бұрын
This sounds like a much bigger issue of insurance fraud to me. They collected on it and sold it as new double dipping when it should have been totaled out.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
I thought the same. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.
@joygarrett8397
@joygarrett8397 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@tinaprice4948
@tinaprice4948 2 күн бұрын
I can't imagine the damage to sooo many things with the hurricane, cars, trucks, rvs. Be careful :/
@OliviaM-h3w
@OliviaM-h3w 2 күн бұрын
Your videos are always so funny and witty! Thank you for your generosity of heart and colorful, hilarious content!🌌🌜👄
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, Olivia!
@georgethecritic9850
@georgethecritic9850 2 күн бұрын
A&L is on the hook for this one. They deceived this couple. How low can you go?
@jrb737
@jrb737 2 күн бұрын
These videos are exactly why I bought a cabin on 2 acres in the Rocky Mountains 20 years ago and not an RV. I can’t believe people can be treated like this.
@DavidJones-su9ob
@DavidJones-su9ob 2 күн бұрын
One overwhelming connecting theme in the vast majority of Liz's videos is the lack of the buyers getting an independent inspection. People really need to do research on buying any RV and unless they are qualified inspectors themselves, it is not wise to buy an RV without one. Unfortunately, a lot of people just rely on the dealers PDI, which is supposed to indicate Pre Delivery Inspection, but in actuality means "Probably Didn't Inspect"!
@charliewatts6895
@charliewatts6895 2 күн бұрын
Agree. All of this could have been caught in an inspection.
@joygarrett8397
@joygarrett8397 2 күн бұрын
@@DavidJones-su9ob as Pierre & Laurel would say!! ;-)
@MaryEllenDennis-s2x
@MaryEllenDennis-s2x 2 күн бұрын
This is a DEALER issue not an Alliance issue!! The fact that Alliance is helping, speaks volumes to their customer service. This is just another case for why people need to have a third-party, certified RV inspection prior to signing the papers!
@kcgunesq
@kcgunesq 2 күн бұрын
Yes, but if Alliance was really concerned, they could simply let this dealer know that they would refuse to sell to them and would let others in the industry know why.
@CindyinArizona
@CindyinArizona 2 күн бұрын
Alliance needs to back the customer and drop the dealer who sells a damaged unit as new. All the problems with the unit, sounds like mostly due to the hurricane, reflect badly on the brand. That should concern Alliance.
@yourworstnightmare5902
@yourworstnightmare5902 2 күн бұрын
Hurricane or not, after watching your videos I can’t imagine anyone ever even buying one.
@steveg5576
@steveg5576 2 күн бұрын
Congress is coming...I think the NC Legislature even sooner. Amazing videos. Steve in NC
@LiveInOC
@LiveInOC 2 күн бұрын
Someone needs to make a checklist for buyers… like run the slides in and out 5 times, etc… basically doing a quality check at the dealership
@Robnord1
@Robnord1 2 күн бұрын
No offense, but 95% of buyers are not qualified to properly evaluate an RV, new or used, at a dealer. For instance, how do you know a Schwintec in-wall slide system sounds right or if it's a garbage system with nationwide bad reputation? You do not. Hire an independent certified RV tech or RV inspector is the answer. They will catch most problems IF you don't cheap out by limiting them to 1 or 2 hours.
@theforeman1097
@theforeman1097 2 күн бұрын
I would hazard to guess that ANY damaged or buy back rv is immediately put back onto the sales lot to peddle it to the next unsuspecting innocent buyer! This industry needs some regulation to protect buyers of these expensive items!!
@ericwhalen2935
@ericwhalen2935 2 күн бұрын
The mold coming up through the floor would be my biggest concern. Someone, dealer or factory should absolutely buy it back.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
I know it. So scary. I agree that it should be a buyback. Thanks for watching, Eric, and stay tuned!
@charlenecastaldo3602
@charlenecastaldo3602 2 күн бұрын
A&L needs to own up and buy it back. Alliance needs to make sure they do. Or they may Face a Very Legitimate Law Suit That Might Actually End with A&L Having to CLOSING THEIR DOORS FOR GOOD! If they sold a damaged RV to this good couple, they've probably done the same thing to other customers. Unless they are stopped, there is a good chance they will continue. I hope Brad and Jan can contact a local news station to investigate A&L to warning the public about their shady business practices. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I wish the best to Brad and Jan. Thank you, Liz! Keep up the good work.
@ralphp3057
@ralphp3057 2 күн бұрын
They should definitely get a buy back ! Those dealers should be ashamed of themselves! Another black eye for the RV industry. Thanks Liz for helping ! 😁👍
@thomasharhen2168
@thomasharhen2168 2 күн бұрын
Love this channel ❤️
@andysupple4838
@andysupple4838 2 күн бұрын
If that was an automobile it would have a Salvage title
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Yes it would! Thanks for this!
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 2 күн бұрын
Dealer should buy it back 👍
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
I agree, Patrick. I hope they watch this video and decide to do just that.
@thomasharhen2168
@thomasharhen2168 2 күн бұрын
Love this channel ❤️ Salt water damage rinsed off with fresh water
@SpencerKeith
@SpencerKeith Күн бұрын
THIS IS AN EASY WIN FOR AN ATTORNEY
@DAVIDDASARO-le6bt
@DAVIDDASARO-le6bt 2 күн бұрын
Consumer protections, lemon laws, rv sales and repair reports just like cars need to be in place due to industry failure to be responsible, honest, trustworthy
@danlaur7973
@danlaur7973 2 күн бұрын
The RV industry is in an awful place right now, buyer beware is an understatement
@kengroves49
@kengroves49 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing these stories with us Liz they're very good and very educational thank you
@lisahance
@lisahance 2 күн бұрын
Agree with other commenters that it should be bought back.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your vote, Lisa, feel free to share !
@davidmilledge221
@davidmilledge221 2 күн бұрын
Great to hear your back on the road 👍 God bless and drive safe 🙏
@billm5433
@billm5433 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Liz for bringing this up. I wouldn’t want to buy an RV or any vehicle that has been in the Southeast! 🙏🏼🫡
@pierremcculloch9971
@pierremcculloch9971 2 күн бұрын
This should be so easy for a judge to decide who’s responsible! The dealership……
@garyfolkes5911
@garyfolkes5911 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been following you for a few years and appreciate you. It’s clearly a dealer problem and would start my journey with an attorney ( yes it can be costly), however, it’s a matter of principle now. This would be my life’s mission until the dealer refunded every penny. Contact State officials alone with local authorities and organizations that deal with issue.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Gary, that's a good tip. It might be worthwhile to at least have a free consult with an attorney and to call the state. Thanks for this!!
@StacyAnneH
@StacyAnneH 2 күн бұрын
In this case, Alliance is correct. The RV was at the dealership and they were responsible for taking care of it and insuring it.
@viper16vet
@viper16vet 2 күн бұрын
Wow! I'm with Brad, it's fraud trying to peddle a damaged RV as new. Regardless of the resolution they reach, and I hope it suits the owners, it's another example of deception at different levels. Is there anyone a consumer can trust any more? Thanks for your efforts Liz, you truly are making a difference to those who don't seem to have a way out.
@ourfamily8410
@ourfamily8410 2 күн бұрын
This is absolutely a dealership issue. The damage took place after at the dealership purchased the RV. The dealership needs to buy it back. The fact that Alliance picked up the RV and said they would make the repairs is amazing.
@thedotc
@thedotc 2 күн бұрын
I agree the state AG needs to be notified. GA law might also prevail. Isn’t this a simple case of the dealer selling it as ‘new’ when it was not new anymore - but never previously sold and clearly damaged? If the dealer did not file an insurance claim, aren’t they entitled to file one? If the dealer is irresponsible enough to NOT have their fleet insured, they deserve whatever the AG comes up with. If not insured, are they eligible to file an Idalia-related claim to FEMA? Further, what about all the other trailers that would have been similarly damaged in THAT hurricane? The AG should be further investing ALL sales of trailers damaged in Idalia which were sold as ‘new’ to other unsuspecting buyers. And, the investigation should include similar sales of any trailers that sat through any of the subsequent hurricanes. This case could be even bigger… A&L is NOT the only trailer dealership in hurricane regions. States often have laws that protect buyers from unknowingly purchasing vehicles that were damaged in flooding. This is similar and Georgia State Law might prevail here. PLUS: why is Alliance even entertaining offering a discount of that kind? It’s not their fault! Conditional on buying from the same scammy dealer? Something smells of the two of them being in some kind of cahoots, to perhaps help the dealer sell the damaged units??? Get the AG on the case And if the AG a case produces nothing, in time for Brad and Jan to go on their planned trip, perhaps they should rent one. If they want to buy a truly ‘new’ unit, from that dealer using the $10k offer, I would recommend they have the dealer provide the actual ‘delivery date’ of the new unit… making sure it was delivered AFTER the most recent hurricane.
@TOLOW1962
@TOLOW1962 2 күн бұрын
Liz , you have come a LONG WAY . Keep up the GREAT WORK !!!!From daytona beach
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Hi there!!! Wow, thanks for being here! I feel like you've been with me through thick and thin. Enjoy Daytona!!!
@TheBlackLeprechaun
@TheBlackLeprechaun 2 күн бұрын
Nice Liz. Hope to see you in Arizona.
@RHodge317
@RHodge317 2 күн бұрын
I'd sue the dealership for fraud. Get all their money back plus extra for the expenses incurred, legal fees and the aggravation.
@resellingandthrifting
@resellingandthrifting 2 күн бұрын
Thry need to buy it back. Period!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
That's what I'm thinking, thanks for this!
@CruizinWithTheCarsons
@CruizinWithTheCarsons 2 күн бұрын
There was no disclosure from the dealership. Insurance money was collected by the dealer according to Alliance. That dealership should be sued, and fraud charges filed. Alliance should force that dealership to do a full buyback, AND give them the $10K.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
It certainly is NOT a good look for the dealer. I hope he reconsiders and decides to make it right. Thanks for watching, Greg!
@JandAReview1
@JandAReview1 2 күн бұрын
Way to go Greg!
@horizon42q
@horizon42q 2 күн бұрын
Agree
@DAVIDDASARO-le6bt
@DAVIDDASARO-le6bt 2 күн бұрын
Thanks, LizAmazing another great video. one day, Congress will call you to give your take on how to protect us from these crooks. Just like they did on autos in the 70s
@justmyopinion9041
@justmyopinion9041 2 күн бұрын
ALL I CAN SAY I UNREAL, I feel bad for all these people, thank goodness for you Liz.
@johncaruana6406
@johncaruana6406 2 күн бұрын
This is on the Dealership. They need to buy back the unit for the purchase price at a minimum. Even that doesn’t compensate the couple for all the aggravation. Always get an RV professionally inspected whether old or new. Good inspectors will check walls and ceiling for moisture content.
@20pawranch
@20pawranch 20 сағат бұрын
I just sold my 2004 class A. Best. Feeling. Ever. Getting a travel van. Less is more!!!
@stuntmanroy
@stuntmanroy 2 күн бұрын
You're amazing Liz !!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
So are you! Thanks for being here!
@davidhouston5783
@davidhouston5783 2 күн бұрын
Take them to court.
@stephennowicki7158
@stephennowicki7158 2 күн бұрын
Glad you're back in your RV. The dealer should have never sold it. They should take it back!
@andycommonsincanada
@andycommonsincanada 2 күн бұрын
To be honest Liz, this really has nothing to do with Alliance. The Dealer has on the face of it committed a fraudulent act which is a criminal offence and as such the couple need to get legal assistance in this matter.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Yes. And I hope Alliance pressures the dealer to do the right thing.
@James-ej7yd
@James-ej7yd 2 күн бұрын
thanks Liz. you are amazing. you are a lifesaver to these people who have been abused by RV dealers and manufacturers. until the RV industry institutes a Lemon Law Program with a REAL warranty program (like you would get on a $20k Kia) these horrible abuses will continue. Sounds like a horrible dealer for sure. Stay away from them.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for your support, James. It feels good to be doing my part to bring about much needed change in the industry. Thanks for watching and have a nice weekend!
@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits
@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits 2 күн бұрын
This is criminal! These folks need a buy-back ASAP! I am beyond angry at the sheer smug attitude to scam this poor couple. Buy back!!
@GregPrince-io1cb
@GregPrince-io1cb 2 күн бұрын
Oh Lord Liz.... when will it end????
@kenetic7517
@kenetic7517 2 күн бұрын
My wife and I were pretty much sold on an Alliance 29RL after seeing the floorplan and reading reviews. That was until we found a brand new 29RL to walk through. A slide was falling apart, trim, and paneling pieces were falling off. It had just arrived at the dealership the day prior! We're now looking at 2019 and older fifth wheels. Decent quality campers a few and far between now days.
@alexparachin7443
@alexparachin7443 2 күн бұрын
I cannot thank you enough for these videos. These folks would be me and my wife, both seniors, putting out some of our life savings into an RV purchase that is clearly fraudulent (in my opinion). I have responded to your videos from time to time to let you know how much you are appreciated. Our lives have not been easy but with God’s grace we were able to more than overcome, survive and succeed. I could not handle this stress. I don’t understand this industry. I pay $50,000 + for a car and my warranty is honoured. In fact I have never had to get warranty work because the quality is there in the manufacturing of the vehicle. How can someone pay this kind of money for a vehicle and have these kinds of problems? I personally believe this is a form of elder abuse, if not legally defined as such, most certainly morally. Love you Liz❣️
@kathyjoslin1361
@kathyjoslin1361 Күн бұрын
This is a hard one. Not really Alliance issue but more a dealer issue. I feel so bad for this sweet couple.
@davidlarson2534
@davidlarson2534 2 күн бұрын
Illegal to sell a new vehicle in California without full-disclosure. Shame, shame on that dealer!!
@sailingstpommedeterre4905
@sailingstpommedeterre4905 2 күн бұрын
Awesome Liz !!!! 150k subscribers 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
@christopher3d475
@christopher3d475 2 күн бұрын
The dealer should never have sold that, it doesn't matter if they've 'done nothing but helped them'. They sold damaged goods.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
They did! Thanks for your comment, Christopher, and for watching.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 2 күн бұрын
Selling any product as "brand new" when the product has been subjected to serious storm damage is WAY WAY OFFSIDE and absolutely fraud. This couple should lawyer up...How can they lose, seems like slam dunk case in favour of the plaintiffs.
@icare7151
@icare7151 2 күн бұрын
Any dealer that is selling hurricane damaged anything is breaking federal law. Reported it to the FBI and federal marshals immediately.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
This is good to know. Thank you.
@icare7151
@icare7151 2 күн бұрын
@ I have over 50 years of RV experience and have decades in forensic failure, analysis experience and I’ve taken on companies such as Allstate and others and they all settled out of court in a huge way. Tiffany even had a major warning for me and they continuously settle out of court because Bob knows what I know.
@icare7151
@icare7151 2 күн бұрын
@ with decades of experience in advance, material reinforcement, co-author of many ASTM (I) testing standards, manufacturing engineering quality, ISO standards etc, I’ve been an expert witness for decades. Bring it on RV manufacturers. Let’s rumble accountability is now.
@denniswiseman6290
@denniswiseman6290 2 күн бұрын
I like this guy in the video .. if its broke fix it yourself .. These are RVs . They are not mansions on wheels . There is going to be things wrong with them all the time. And its always little things. Get yourself a man like this and you will be alright..
@AksamitMotorsports
@AksamitMotorsports 2 күн бұрын
Unbelievable - reinforces the unfortunate need to have even new RVs inspected. As others said this dealer needs to be investigated but the best action is videos like this so others do not go there. Spread the word.
@davebrunson125
@davebrunson125 2 күн бұрын
how much did insurance pay? how much did they charge the manufacturer for warranty work, which insurance paid for? Rather than the dealer blaming the manufacturer and trouble with jurisdiction this is on the dealer and since it's fraud, GA courts allow a 3X penalty
@C4Sdriver1
@C4Sdriver1 2 күн бұрын
Dealers and manufacturers are unethical, but people need to accept responsibility for their decisions. Believe many of these faults would have been uncovered had a better pre-inspection been conducted before accepting delivery.
@bryant6524
@bryant6524 2 күн бұрын
In 2018 at the same location you bought your RV, this business was under a different name. I was scammed into buying an RV that had previously been wrecked.
@mikesowell7969
@mikesowell7969 2 күн бұрын
Just noticed your at 150K subscribers. That’s awesome! Love your channel.
@robertrios9982
@robertrios9982 2 күн бұрын
Another great video Liz. You are doing wonderful work. You are keeping the manufactures on their toes. Don't stop!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for your support, Robert. I sometimes feel they are trying to shut me down, but I am keeping on. Feel free to share this video to help grow its reach!
@CindyinArizona
@CindyinArizona 2 күн бұрын
As you said, it's a case of fraud and Alliance should do a buy back. That is terrible of the dealer to make an insurance claim on the RV and then sell it as new.
@mitchteal4031
@mitchteal4031 2 күн бұрын
Liz...here is what i would recomend that you have a detailed attorney craft a document that each prospective buyer should take with them when they intend on buying a new RV. That document should serve ro amend and replace any language in the Seller's (dealership or manufacturers) documents. I would sign my document first and hand it over to the sales staff or ownership of the dealership. I would make sure that it addresses future transportation back the the agreed place of repair, compensation for any stay, personal transportation and meals during time the buyer is without their home on wheels and replacement of the unit with a loaner RV of equal or better age, design, and capacity of the one the buyer agreed to initially purchase...with much more detail. The industry needs to be taken to task and if walking away is what it takes because the seller's refuse to sign my buyer's addendum. PhucM. Next lot please.
@barbaradowney4207
@barbaradowney4207 Күн бұрын
Alliance should give this couple a buyback, plain and simple...they were already screwed by the dealer...I would talk to lawyer, Ron Burdge, out of Ohio. He specializes in RVs. Stop letting Alliance call the shots.
@homebuilder4367
@homebuilder4367 2 күн бұрын
Contact the Attorney General and let it go to a jury trial. Contact your news station and ask to speak to an investigator reporter. The publicity will hit major news organizations, and the dealership will be bankrupt. Most notably, new laws will come on the books, and the RV industry will be open to fines for fraud and be held accountable for deception. This case can change the entire RV industry!
@LetArtsLive
@LetArtsLive 2 күн бұрын
They should do these things because they want to not because of the power of social media..... the power of social media is amazing cameras have saved my life and social media
@roundstone2020
@roundstone2020 2 күн бұрын
A&L RV needs some Google maps review done explaining how they treat customers.
@JohnSmith-ug5ci
@JohnSmith-ug5ci 2 күн бұрын
Clearly a crooked dealer. Time to find an attorney and sue.
@RLPnKY
@RLPnKY 2 күн бұрын
Dealer = 100% FRAUD. Manufacturer should prove an insurance claim had been made and BUY BACK THE RV!!!!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for this, and for watching. Stay tuned.
@Paysoncougarfan.7885
@Paysoncougarfan.7885 2 күн бұрын
Sue the dealer for fraud, pain and suffering, ask for triple the original purchase price and buy back will be a quick settlement!
@BobK-z4z
@BobK-z4z 2 күн бұрын
If the seller didn't disclose that the RV was hurricane damaged get an attorney and sue the seller.
@Settlingintoalaskaliving
@Settlingintoalaskaliving 2 күн бұрын
I was going to buy a Black Series HQ17, 2022 model brand new in Anchorage Alaska, did not buy it after seeing alot of youtube complaints about quality.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
Yep. I did a video about a couple who purchased a Black Series. I have not been hearing good things. Thanks for watching
@DavidJones-su9ob
@DavidJones-su9ob 2 күн бұрын
Good thing you checked. Black Series RV's have had a ton of problems!
@Settlingintoalaskaliving
@Settlingintoalaskaliving 2 күн бұрын
@ I just watched Liz’s video on the Black Series, very informative. They wanted 42,995 for a 2022 model and they recently raised the price on it, in the past week by 2K, dealer also said for $2800 I could buy a 7 year protection plan on it as well.
@kechkaren
@kechkaren 2 күн бұрын
Why did I just know these dealers would sell hurricane RV’s!!!!!!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
It's a scary world out there!! Truly, buyer beware! Thanks for watching.
@mikewadams1
@mikewadams1 2 күн бұрын
Glad to see you back in a RV! It just feels right!
@edwardyudkoff7137
@edwardyudkoff7137 2 күн бұрын
It continues to amaze me how eloquent these people Liz interviews can detail the multitude of issues they have AFTER their purchase. What's it going to take for viewers to stop purchasing rv's.
@MaryWehmeier
@MaryWehmeier 2 күн бұрын
File with the Attorney General’s Office on the dealer for fraud.
@TheFoxyjasmine
@TheFoxyjasmine 2 күн бұрын
Wow! Feel so bad for these folks. We are experiencing the same thing, too. Even with inspection done, some of those issues can not be discovered until used. The entire RV industry, manufacturer and dealership, need to be shut down. This is withholding critical information. These folks deserve a buy back plus more.
@WatersandWilderness
@WatersandWilderness Күн бұрын
The bigger the RV and the combination of slide outs, the more problems. I have no doubt that folks want bigger for the room, however, you are looking at more problems. Don't purchase them, wait a few years until the manufacturers get their product builds correct. AND DON'T PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM THE AREAS OF THE HURRICANE! NEVER TRUST AND GET AN INSPECTION ON NEW RV'S IF YOU DARE TO BUY ONE. Stick with what you have, sometimes, smaller is better. Consider buying a van or a bus and having a local business build it out for you.
@beverlyweber171
@beverlyweber171 2 күн бұрын
Watch out for storm damaged vehicles and RV's turning up for sale at dealerships.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 2 күн бұрын
You said it, Beverly!
@mildredwebster2822
@mildredwebster2822 2 күн бұрын
This is so criminal what they did to these people. Omg, how awful
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