My 19 Year Old Sister Is Getting Married To Her 36 Year Old Teacher r/Relationships

[@maheenahmed6653]

Parents who want their daughters to stay with abusive predatory men are absolutely pathetic

[@whitneybennett4857]

They probably thought the older daughter was a failure since she didn't take the marriage/housewife/mother route so they became hellbent on making sure the next daughter did. Or maybe they were just desperate to get someone else to financially support her and get her out of the house. Either way, it's sickening.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Kind of sounded like she was a surprise baby and they just wanted her married off so they didn’t have to deal with her

[@wetsocks9952]

I'm surprised op never told her parents "if you think it's such a great relationship YOU marry him."

[@piiinkDeluxe]

I mean the parents didn't allow her to have a phone at 17. So obviously they're unhinged.

[@kaykay8855]

Story 1 final update: I’m so glad that op’s sister is away from that monster. Other than op, every adult failed her sister.

[@catherinecox573]

Your comment convinced me to keep watching; I don't think I could have stomached this story without assurance of her safety 😢

[@pippo17173]

The final update makes me think that the parents plan this ether for money or social status.

[@kaykay8855]

@@pippo17173 I don’t remember if op said that whether or not they live in the US because most states still ‘approve’ of child marriages

[@kaykay8855]

@@catherinecox573 What worries me is either op’s parents are the type of conservatives that believe that their daughters should be married immediately after school and start a family or they saw signs that their daughter was being groomed and saved their reputation pushed for the marriage or it’s a combination of both.

[@MemristerBoogieDown]

@@kaykay8855 …so creepy but so true.

[@promisedmysun6044]

Imagine being angry, that your daughter left an abusive relationship and not that she was abused. Some people should never ever be allowed to have children.

[@juliearmfield2634]

The parents are just as sick and abusive as the teacher.

[@pippo17173]

@@juliearmfield2634 I'm more inclined to believe they plan it for a gain they will never get now.

[@Lillireify]

Lots of parents (and people in general) don't see past financials. I had this happen to me and my family. My dad is a mentally and financially abusive person and when I was a kid every time I tried to speak with literally ANYONE that something is wrong I was dismissed with "you've got mom and dad and money, he doesn't hit her, what's your problem?". Hell, my stepmom, his partner after mom died, and I do believe he contributed a lot to that fact (successful unaliving attempt) believed him that "she was just sick" while enduring for 13 years the same treatment as her. After they broke up, she admitted to me that "not everything was ok" (duh). Hell, she was the one who told me after I broke up with alcoholic bf that "this is not a reason to break up" and that I need to finally settle down (I was 27).

[@juliearmfield2634]

@@pippo17173 well luckily she has o.p. to help her get straightened out and on her feet. I hope she stays strong enough to stay away from that abuser.

[@MrJpaynebb]

Small town/small mind mentality of now their youngest is no longer their burned/issue/problem to take care of because she's married. She's now her husband's responsibility to take care of. That's how her family and many do view the world. It must have been satisfying for OP to punch BIL in the face after all these months of biting her tongue.

[@mothmanlol6263]

She was allowed to get married before she was even allowed a phone

[@nyxx5357]

Right?? That stood out to me, too. She's too young to communicate with the outside world unsupervised, but old enough to get married, have sex, and have babies??? Make it make sense! (Actually, please don't, because I don't want to live in a world where that makes sense.)

[@GiordanDiodato]

@@nyxx5357 parents probably justified it as "God's will" or something

[@ZeroZXDev]

You can tell what kind of family/community and their values were just by getting that part, imo. It explains why no one saw a problem with it.

[@thomasjoseph5876]

It sounds like over-controlling parents found an over-controlling husband for their daughter. I bet they steered her in his direction as well. I feel like I need a shower after hearing this story. Yuk. I really don't understand the attraction to teenage girls, especially by grown adult men. I didn't like teenage girls when I was in High School and they didn't seem to get any better the older I got LOL. I coached High School Wrestling for a few years and I had to sit behind the cheerleaders on the bus to matches. Listening to them for an hour each way was like fingernails on a chalkboard. I dread my triplet daughters reaching their teenage years. Maybe I can pay someone to hit me with a 2x4 repeatedly until I go into a coma and then pull me out of it when they hit their 20s???

[@FinnishLapphund]

I bet the parents who didn't allow their 19 year "kid" to have a mobile phone wasn't only strict about phones, which made OP's sister more vulnerable to someone as her teacher. Glad to hear the sister eventually got away from him when he showed her his real colours.

[@sup9441]

I remember the first update. I'm glad they are finally separating. Honestly, the teacher helping her for being a 'star student' then force her to give up her studies, and no one think that's odd?

[@mariah4531]

Yeah, I can't understand how the parents were OK with that. I actually knew one couple where a much older professor married a student and it turned out well, but that guy didn't try to make his wife into a housewife, instead he helped her career. Also she was already finishing college when they got together.

[@TheIronwil]

Story 1: This is why small town mentality (usually religious) is so toxic. In what world is it a good idea for a man to marry a girl who he’d recently had as a minor STUDENT? Even aside from the age difference, this is extremely suspect. Add the ages and it’s just sick. Glad OP got the sister to see the light.

[@addicted2mako]

I read a tweet that said "People who are into men/women who just turned 18 are like bosses who pay their employees minimum wage. Sure it's "legal", but you know if it wasn't for the law they'd be going lower." Too many people act like waiting to bone someone is a sign of upstanding moral character and anything else they do leading up to it is excusable. Thank God OP was able to keep an open line of communication with their sister! And thank God for that IUD; you know that skeeze of a husband would poke so many holes in their condoms it would basically be swiss cheese

[@whitneybennett4857]

Thank you for saying this! Too many people defend this sort of thing. Legal and morally ok are NOT the same thing.

[@Callimo]

Bruh, ain't this the truth! Young folks need to be 🚨 alerted 🚨 to older adults trying to groom them into romantic relationships. Especially the young people who don't come from decent and protective homes. More are wising up though, thank goodness.

[@lindah3803]

Not to mention that pedo was tapping OPs sister long before she graduated.

[@ZomBeeQueeen]

Ooh that is a great analogy

[@LovesGaming37]

The parents probably helped the teacher groom the sister. They are all so disgusting

[@EllieC130]

Said it once and I’ll say it again, I’ve found the idea of dating an 18-19 year old a bit weird since I was like 23. Not necessarily predatory either just like… At different stages in life.

[@Ashbrash1998]

Me too, I honestly think people shouldn't date with huge age gaps until about 25, where they've been an adult for a while and are pretty established

[@averycheesypotato]

Dating an 18-19 year old in your early 20’s is weird. Dating them if you knew them when they were younger than that is predatory

[@weltschmertzz]

Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's moral. People mostly say it's consensual but you have to remember that most teens look up to most adult thinking they have their sh!t together. It's manipulative and predatory to go after people as young as that. They don't think like an adult yet.

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 1: Ever since I heard the original post I've had this story taking up space in the back of my mind. I'm so thankful it received a mostly positive update with OP's sister escaping way sooner than most women in her situation!

[@FallenRosestorm]

I'm so glad Op was able to keep in contact with her sister, who knows where she would be if she didn't

[@Ashbrash1998]

Story 1: The fact he was so quick to hit OP (i didnt even realize they were a girl until then) just shows it was a matter of time before he was going to beat on her sister. I cant help but laugh at how OP rightfully knocked him good and he startwd howling and crying to the police. Like you shouldnt hit anybody but if your gonna swingbat least learn how to take a punch

[@maurer3d]

Story 1 (before update): NTA, This teacher groomed her for years (2 to 3 by your count), this should have been reported to the school back then. It isn't to late to do it now, to protect future students. Story 1 (update 1): You did the right thing biting your lip and letting her know you are there for her, if she needs you. Story 1 (update 2): good she is out but she needs a therapist immediately to help her cope with the grooming and abuse.

[@Kittykat5kits]

I grew up in a certain religious group with a person on the SCOTUS. One of my classmates married our physics teacher who is 22 years older than her (was a groomsman at my father’s wedding). Everyone was ecstatic, and so was just like, does NO ONE else see what I see? She gave up he career and became his brood mare pretty quick and she’s going to spend the rest of her life taking care of him and his kids without ever having a life of her own. It sucks.

[@katwitanruna]

Story two. It was the *fifth* day of the honeymoon and an emergency. NTA.

[@emilybarclay8831]

In the same vein since it’s the 5th day of their honeymoon and they’ve likely been doing all sorts of activities the husband may just be slightly sleep deprived and irritable. It’s not like he screamed and cussed Op out, he was just grumpy which is normal

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@LostSoulchild89 how often do you act perfectly logically when tired after nearly a week of activities?

[@katwitanruna]

@@emilybarclay8831 very true. I bet they were able to talk it out in the morning.

[@lindah3803]

Last story: What exactly is this "emergency" that 1: involves her 23yr old brother and cops. Cops that showed up at OPs home where the brother does not live. I understand sister calling OP. Telling her what happened for 30 minutes. I don't understand brother also calling when there were other people he could talk to(grandma). Markee,you pointed out that OPs hubby added his 2 cents in during the call. Maybe the hubby added to the convo to get OP off the phone. Also,hubby already knows pretty much how OP deals with family. Will this emergency eat away at OP for what time they have left on their honeymoon. Will OP be able to finish the honeymoon without calls from geandma,sister, brother,or anyone else.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

But like if he knows how close the family is and he knows op is frequently a source of support and he doesn’t want that, why marry her? When you marry someone you are also agreeing that their extended family of origin is still family, now part of your family, and it is unlikely for the dynamic to change just because you are now married.

[@britnicox3929]

1: the hardest thing in the entire world is gritting your teeth and keeping it to yourself when your family member is dating someone clearly abusive because you wanna make your distaste of them clear but you can’t because it never works. Kudos to OP for playing the long game and getting her sister out of there. 2: in my opinion the husband overreacted to the situation that hadn’t gotten that bad at this point. But I don’t think it’s like the worst thing ever so I’m sure they’ll move past it quickly

[@wildwikedwanderer1208]

Story 1: a lot of adults in this story need to be on the wrong end of Mike Tyson’s fists

[@meadowsong8560]

So happy to hear the update on story1. I have been wondering what happened to OPs sister. Boy, are their parents POS. I hope they can both make a clean break.

[@Bala_Niranna]

3:30 shes not stupid shes a victim of grooming by a trusted adult in a community that clearly doesnt care about protecting their young girls and women. not being victimized isnt a matter of intelligence.

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

Story 2: OP is NTA and it sounds like her husband feels she is too imbedded in her family drama that he's not a priority. That's a bad thing and needs to be addressed.

[@Allmightyimortal]

Story 1. Hopefully op was also able to separate little sis from her birthgivers who have no problems with pedos. Heck, maybe that walking mistake paid their birthgivers which is why they are in such support.

[@mayurakshimukherjee7948]

Story 1, how much did the husband paid op's parents. No same person would happy let an adult marry a child. How is op's parents ok with it?!

[@ruthsaunders9507]

She wasn't a child when they married but she was when he was grooming her in school. Her parents are sick to have encouraged the marriage.

[@Nevertoleave]

@@ruthsaunders9507 yeah, if I found out after my daughter graduated that she was now dating her teacher I would slap down a credit card and go, ‘oh honey your father and I planned a surprise trip for you. You worked so hard and thought you deserved it.’ As soon as she’s on that plane I’m calling the cops and pressing charges for statutory r4pe

[@VixxenBlood]

Am I the only one that would have called the school board and had that nice shiny stable job taken away? Am I the only one that would have messaged all the parents of that teacher to warn them he's a predator? I would have ruined his life, but I'm also unhinged when it comes to predatory authority figures taking advantage of young, stupid kids that aren't even allowed to drink alcohol. 😬

[@hyzenthlayrose2176]

Phew, I'm so glad we finally have an update about the sister in the first story. I hope she'll able to heal and stays far away from him.

[@bricksloth6920]

Last story: one hour out of your honeymoon? What the hell. I can take a bath for an hour. Homie needs to grow up

[@fiyahquacker2835]

@Rosaletta then he should say that rather than getting pissy in the way he did here. That husband is a major ahole.

[@marcusbergman6116]

I turn 36 this year and... I couldn't imagine dating a teenager, or an early 20something for that matter. It's icky, and this is doubly so as he was her teacher. God damn.

[@davidarmstrong7814]

Story 2; like...I think people are overlooking the fact that this sounds like a pattern. Husband wants her to engage with him, and prioritize them on the honeymoon. But the very next fucking day she's on reddit posting about shit like this, and replying to comments and etc? Nah, that's off side, sounds like a potentially persistent problem.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

@@holographicwing she said her brother was falsely accused of something. Have you never had a situation where you needed an immense amount of support and few choices on who to call?

[@cpaul9269]

story 2 - eh, this is a tough one. You, on your freakin' honeymoon, was the ONLY person your loser brother could think of to call? Anyway, just explain it all to your husband, and don't take any more calls.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

It's really not a tough one since the husband is blatant a massive pos.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

Honeymoons are antiquated, they were initially designed for couples to learn to have sex, we are past these days so it’s basically just a nice vacation with your significant other you just signed a contract with to stay together forever. Doesn’t seem like you need to shut the world out just because you signed a paper and went on a trip, that seems like a dangerous line of thinking these days.

[@Emi_TheWinged]

Typical patriarchy parents, they don't see their daughter as a living human being with mind and her own feelings, just an object to be owned by a man. The whole story is so disgusting. The whole town is sick in the head. Glad she kinda got away but holy shit, the parents they both deserve to be married to the guy and mistreated, maybe then they will see that it's not ok. I swear some people need to be on receiving end to get this crap into their tiny brains. Edit: Story 2 wtf is wrong with people on story 2, the husband is whining that he can't fck his wife because there is an emergancy in her family?!??! wtf. What is he 5? Honeymoon is really not that important. He can wait. There is AN EMERGENCY , sure it doesn't involve op directly but it's her family and 45 minutes? If he really wanted to sleep or whatever he could have just TOLD her it while she was on the phone to go to other room or anything. Why does it scream entitlement to me? It's like "you can't be involved in your family anymore even when its important even for an hour because im the important one and only I matter so im upset now and you have to apologise/soothe me"

[@habituallearner7680]

I thought I was the only one who responded that way to Story 2. Emergencies take priority over getting laid unless you're incredibly self centered and immature.

[@sej04]

When I was 16 (1998) I moved to a new a town. My new bus driver gave me the creeps. There was a 13/14 year old girl that always sat behind the driver and she seemed to get jealous if the driver said good morning or good evening to the female students as they passed him. Weird but little girls get crushes all the time, right? Except when she got flirty with him he flirted back. Major red flag but hindsight and all. Fast forward to 2004 and they're married with a 4 year old daughter and she's pregnant for a 2nd time. Yes, her parents were aware and allowed it to happen. They're still married.

[@Shangori]

Story 1: besides this example, people should be wary of any relationship where there is/was a difference in power dynamic. Age is one, but dating your boss, or a teacher (outside of age difference) are other examples. That dynamic is often reflected in the relationship

[@Mizzybelle.]

Story 1; what the actual hell is wrong with everyone in this town??? This kind of situation isn't legally allowed to happen here in Australia...for damn good reason! Better policies need to be in place in soooo many places 😮‍💨

[@jodieg6318]

Small towns are the fucking worst. Every adult writes off this stuff as 'teen drama' and the "marrying a good guy" is par for the course because that's all women can hope for.

[@dionysus_adores]

Omg it was suspicious from the start this town is full of enablers, abusers or pedos. Like wtf

[@FoxExcess]

19 year olds aren't allowed to marry who they want in Australia...?

[@Lillireify]

@@jodieg6318 In some small cities it's even worse, as long as he earns good money and doesn't hit the woman he's considered a pinnacle of who a woman should strive to marry.

[@ruthsaunders9507]

@@FoxExcess Teachers screwing around with students is generally not allowed. He didn't marry her till she was of age. Its a pretty sick community that encourages teacher student marriage instead of pitchforks.

[@eldeano9964]

Oh, op is a woman?. Didn't realise that until the predatory creep swung a punch, not a slap, a punch, at her .

[@kixi8033]

1. I'm glad OP's sister is deciding to leave that dude. It's fked that only OP saw a problem with the relationship and that the parents were encouraging it. If my son was 19 and suddenly told me he was marrying his 36 year old HS teacher, that would be a huge nope for me. 2. NTA and I can't believe anyone would say NAH or say whether or not the husband is TA depends on how long OP was on the phone for. The husband's reaction is out of line, doesn't even matter if she was taking to her brother and grandma for 2 hours each. Family emergencies come first.

[@de9722]

😭 story1: thanks for following this. Im happy this update came sooner than later, what a good sister

[@maheenahmed6653]

There’s nothing wrong with being a house wife. But what you need to do, is get a degree or learn a trade, so you have a way to make money just in case. If a person who becomes a stay at home parent or spouse doesn’t do this, as long as they weren’t allowed to not get an education, then they have no right to complain if something happens and they need to make money and they can only get low paying jobs

[@LordGertz]

This thing happened at my High School, he was unmarried and 26 or 28, they got married 4 months after graduation. Because no one could prove any illegal activities, or anything improper happening at the school nor was he her teacher during her senior year, he got to keep his job. It weirded everyone out. I lost track of them several years later but at 5 years out they were still together and had 1 child. He was an extremely buff guy, think gym rat body, and way too attentive to the females in the class, like stopped talking with male students when ever a female student approached or raised their hand, then not go back to the male students unless they asked again. He wasn't a great teacher, but he wasn't that bad either (not counting the ick behavior).

[@PlasticBluVentRabbit]

First OP… that punch must have felt sooooo good Shame it couldn’t happen to the parents too. No one should be that eager their child was groomed.

[@nightdweller6446]

S2. Nta it's an emergency. 45mins in 5 days isn't a biggie. Taking the call out of the room would have been better though

[@greeneyelove2003]

One reason he likely agreed to drop the charges is the fact that he knew an investigation would result in law enforcement asking some questions about when the relationship with his wife began, which could have resulted in a deep dive into his past and who knows what sort of things they might have unearthed.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

The police sided with op, he was not being allowed to press charges, that option was given to op.

[@rebekahlowe4288]

OP 1 should've reported the teacher at the beginning, take away that shiny job everyone is so happy about and give him a record so he doesn't do it again. Maybe the police could've saved the sister with a stern conversation about grooming and predators. That should be the first thing she starts on besides therapy now. I can't believe no one advised that in the first place, she would've done it and things may have been different. It blows my mind that not one person in that town was against such an obvious grooming and predator behavior. What a bunch of idiots! I live in TN and people would ring that guys bell unless they were meth heads or something. He would've been investigated immediately and lost his job. I really have a hard time believing not one adult had a hard time with this situation.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

Story 1: That is a quality older sister right there. Good job OP.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Glad op understands red flag 🚩

[@Monada79]

I went out with a guy who was the teacher and he got a 17 year old student pregnant and married her. His biggest mistake was messing with a girl who's whole family were cops! His excuse she lied about her age . He wasn't her teacher. Long story short , she escaped from him with help from her cop brothers who detained him just long enough for her to escape with the baby. After hearing that story , I nearly wanted to vomit and shortly after I dumped him. He was 8 years older than me and was trying to school me!

[@PhoenixInFirestadium]

Last story: Sorry, but I think OP is the butthole including all of her family. There is a bunch of grown adults at home who can deal with the emergency. OP is somewhere else and can't really help anyways so why bother her on her honeymoon. Now she can't enjoy it anymore because she's restless and might consider going home early. Poor husband. If I were the husband I'd be furious and felt like an afterthought. When you're on honeymoon you should basically fall of the grid. Family should not call you under any circumstance. You can and have to deal with anything at home when you're back anyways. Why couldn't sister/brother just call granma. Geez.... rude buttholes...

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

So op is a butthole for…*checks notes* answering her family members who are upset about something instead of blowing her husband?

[@Davtwan]

Nothing like the small town values of ignorance and grooming! That town sounds so detached from society. I hope to learn the name of said town, so that I can just drive around it if I find myself passing through.

[@zarajones5428]

story 1's OP is a legend of a woman

[@DisneyChar]

S2 keep your kids young and dumb until 18 so their teacher can sweep them away

[@Human-kb6xc]

Story 2: everyone saying the husband could have told OP to take the call in another room, consider this: OP is on the phone dealing with an “emergency.” Maybe he didn’t want her family to hear him ask her to take it elsewhere and seem like he doesn’t care about the situation? Regardless, I want to know what was such an emergency (that OP was super vague about) that involved the police, that the family HAD to contact her on her honeymoon? Kinda crappy on the family’s part. OP should be relaxing and enjoying her time with her new husband. Now she’ll probably be spending the rest of their honeymoon worried about what’s going on at home.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

Doesn’t make op the ah. Maybe everyone else is but not op for simply responding to people she loves who are upset and asking for help. If the husband asked op to take it to another room he’d sound like an asshole, but it’s cool to blame her for not ignoring her siblings needs?

[@gigga143]

S2: i wonder how much of an emergency is actual was as there isn’t a whole story on what happened. I feel like maybe it’s a Soft YTA, i mean it’s your honeymoon and it’s one thing to have taken the call with the sister, and then the brother, and then the grandma who are all in the same town. i don’t blame the husband for feeling a bit put out, especially if he thinks this is what their marriage is going to be.

[@JasperCatProductions]

I wonder what brother did?

[@americasteam2112]

I’ll hate to be family to some of the responders in the last story.

[@candypettynettie487]

S2- YTA! A legal advice emergency and op stayed on the phone. The sibs couldn't call grandma? Op's brother did something stupid and called op to sort it out. Where's the parents? My ex husband did the same thing during our honeymoon. Something that could wait till we come back and he stayed on the phone. Smh.

[@cb9825]

Story 2 situation sounds like it was not the first time when siblings needed the big sis to deal with their problems. Probably parentification?

[@cpaul9269]

story 1 - Alabama or West Virginia? LOL!!!! Support your sister as best as you can - not much you can do until the shit hits the fan.

[@socialmoon]

At 19, she's still (psychologically) an adolescent. The prefrontal cortex (the part of the brain responsible for higher cognition - judgement, decision-making, inhibiting socially inappropriate behaviour, etc.) doesn't fully develop until around the age of 25. To put it bluntly, she thinks she's happy now, but she's too young to really know what's good for her. She should be out there, discovering who she is & what she wants without being influenced by a creepy pervert that groomed her throughout high school. Age may be just a number, but dating someone in a different developmental/life stage than you is just asking for trouble. I was in a relationship with someone more than twice my age. At first, I thought things were great, & because I was in my early thirties at the time, I figured I had nothing to worry about because we were both matured adults. Turns out, my partner was in the retirement stage of life & wasn't willing to support me as I threw myself into building a career. He wanted me to stay home with him, go travelling, wanted me to become more of a homemaker... basically everything I wasn't interested in, & he was so insidious that I didn't realise how unhappy I'd become until 3 years later. Made me realise that there was a reason he wasn't with someone his own age, & that's because they wouldn't have put up with his shit.

[@nataliejohnson9526]

Story 2. Husband is an AH. The marriage will only get worse.

[@DD-jr3mq]

Some people spend more time taking a dump or a shower than OP spent on the phone. I honestly don't see a problem. Maybe because for me a relationship should always be enjoyed, not only during the honeymoon

[@PinkMarshmallows]

How much you wanna bet that the parents sold her to the groomer?

[@pascaleelliott63]

Not gonna lie, the title alone set me off coughing "cough" *Grooming* "cough cough" Also, if she isn't "old enough to own her own phone", HOW THE HECK IS SHE OLD ENOUGH TO GET MARRIED TO AN ADULT 20 YEARS OLDER THAN HER ?!

[@maurer3d]

Story 2: NTA, emergencies happen, and when they do you have to do what you need to do. Heck, if I were you I might even consider cutting the honeymoon short.

[@MrJpaynebb]

OP's lightly TA but only for not leaving the room while on the phone so long while he's trying to get some rest. It's understandable why OP is trying to help her family and also why her husband is annoyed about being disturbed on their honeymoon.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

@@MrJpaynebb no she's not an ahole for that since her husband never spoke up about wanting her to take the call in another room and instead waited til after she finished to whine and complain. Now if he did speak up and ask her to take the calls in another room then and she continued as in the story then yes she would be an ahole. Op is absolutely nta.

[@cb9825]

The predator teacher wanted to have a stay at home wife and kids WITH WHAT MONEY? in what reality a teacher's salary is enough to support a family of 3 or more? Those dumb parents would end up paying for everything. The daughter's divorce saves their financial stability.

[@TheSwagger81]

Story 1: that is disgusting. I blame jesus

[@stewartann816]

Should've made a toast to the bride and groomer lol

[@Dee-jq2ob]

My son is 26 and looks like he’s 16, police and his older people have asked him (during the day) “why aren’t you in school”, he replies “because I’m 26 and work full time”, However, he won’t date anyone under 22 or 23 😂. He thinks it’s “creepy” to want to go out with anyone younger, so the teacher is disgusting. He even had a person he worked with ask him to date their 19yr old daughter and he can’t do it, thinks it is not right, even with parents approval.

[@averycheesypotato]

You raised your son right then!

[@catsncrows]

Op defending against commenters being gross 😒 aren't they precious?

[@diamcole]

36 and 19?! What the hell...

[@damien678]

Teachers that are just openly gay are "grooming the kids" but teachers like THIS seem to always get to keep their jobs 🙃

[@glenpersinger3390]

About the teacher, student relationship, sorry for the girl. Teacher is delusional and mentally ill 🤒. Bad for all involved. Hope all is well with the student and family.

[@juliakeler8234]

A story like this just shows the problem with small towns in the usa. They all are groomed into thinking this is ok and good and nothings wrong with their way of living. They are small cults in its own

[@tamsel814]

Nope nope nope, don't even need to know more then the title This is not okay

[@juliearmfield2634]

Talk about a grooming pedophile pervert

[@vampire9545]

i agree she was groomed and alike. N didn't realize op was female so the fist throwing ❤ On a tangent I disagree about huge mind thing. At least in my experience my mind hasn't changed much from hs 18 and end of college, even at 34 not much. But i was always umm logical and reasoning and introspective NTA in Honeymoon story. Sooo an hour, and it was late enough to go to bed? What would you do if it's time to SLEEP on ur honeymoon? My wife and I are late night people so that's odd to me.

[@averycheesypotato]

You may think you haven’t changed, but do you really look at high schoolers today as anything but children??

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

Do you not think you’ve learned more about others and the world, if not yourself Like unless you’ve stayed in a solitary cave from 18 until now I hate to tell you you have likely changed behaviors and perspectives since being 18, and if you are in a cave that cave has internet so like it’s not a solitary cave

[@toriibarlow]

Holy shit I think i acturally know the first storey personally. The guy actually wrote his own biography and posted it online on his own blog. The guy is super creepy Edit to add it isn't the same situation after listening further and looking but sad how often it happened.

[@dm9078]

Is this guy related to Woody Allen? Dude she didn’t listen to him about anything else why does he think she will listen about contraception? 😂

[@glenpersinger3390]

I knew and liked a teacher who divorced wife and married a student. It didn't last. I tried to talk to him the teacher. But he had the same logic as in the post. It was sad.he went to prison and is level 2 sx offender. He finally married an adult and is happy.

[@Callimo]

Wait, you tried to talk to your fellow student or the teacher?

[@glenpersinger3390]

The teacher, we were friends and parted ways. He was very intelligent, funny, well read,and a well liked by students and parents. He just couldn't see his actions as abusive. He went to prison 😳.

[@Callimo]

@@glenpersinger3390 Yikes, my friend. I feel that him "marrying an adult" is probably NOT as good of an ending as you think. Those dudes tend to abuse their own children or young family members because they're looking for closer prey. I dunno, hopefully his current spouse becomes an ex because hmmmmmmm

[@glenpersinger3390]

@@Callimo yeah I know what you mean. 😏 he doesn't seem predatory and didn't have a history like so many do. He seemed to focus on the one student. There is for sure a problem with that. He gave the student to much credit for being grown up and mature. Sounded diluted to me.

[@glenpersinger3390]

@@Callimo oh he wasn't a controller. He let go but wouldn't see that there was a problem with the age difference. It seems weird that he didn't get it.???? I asked about his attractions to younger girls. He said only her. Not before or after. Big???????

[@tinak2576]

Good morning, Markee!!

[@glenpersinger3390]

About the legal troubles with the brother of the bride, she should get an annulment from her awful husband. He is obviously involved in the brother's legal issues. What a bum.

[@Batman-lg2zj]

The husband isn’t that bad

[@glenpersinger3390]

@@Batman-lg2zj being sarcastic

[@loba2036]

There's no sound in the beginning

[@juliearmfield2634]

Story 2 esh. I would want to know what kind of emergency that they're dealing with.

[@nyxx5357]

It said in the story that the brother is being accused of something he didn't do, and if he gets wrongly convicted, it could massively screw up his life.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Story 2 - 1000000% nta.

[@Batman-lg2zj]

Julie you don’t sound smart

[@bessevaraven859]

3 or 4 half hour phone calls is NOT 45 minutes. And 2 nights in a row of calls. The call to grandma could have been 5 minutes and the calls to others could have been shorter. You are and are not the ahole. The hubby chimed in cause you were keeping him awake. He's not the ahole but be careful about what could be crossing boundaries

[@Symos]

Did the parents sell their daughter to the teacher or something?

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Hey Markee 👋 Have a wonderful weekend 👍 Have a great day/night everyone 👋🤗

[@greggorman5537]

Well call the cops and school board Jobless 38 year old not such a good husband Grooming Grooming Grooming

[@telinhajp]

Good night, Markee! Wishing you a fantastic weekend!おやすみ！ ❤️🤗

[@Batman-lg2zj]

Story 2: NTA

[@travonhackett1401]

Story one solution call the police

[@nyxx5357]

Story 2: light ESH. It was fine to take the calls, but you should have done so in another room, as you knew your husband was trying to sleep. Your husband, on the other hand, should be more understanding, and not complain that your family needed your help.

[@penhxd5970]

Hubby was fine with the calls until the call with grandma. Since the calls were at night, when they're trying to sleep, I'm thinking the last call could have been done in the morning, not right at that moment and that's why he was upset. I get she's trying to help her brother, but if it's late at night, calling her grandma right then and there doesn't really do anything. If the problem can wait until she gets back from the honeymoon, I doubt grandma needs to rush out of bed and go over to where the brother is right away.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

@@penhxd5970 then the hubby needs to say that he'd prefer he take the call in another room and give him an update in the morning.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Definitely not a light esh since it's honestly a blatant nta since while the op should've done the calls in another room the husband need to say that rather than wait and whine after they're taken.

[@penhxd5970]

@@fiyahquacker2835 Maybe her husband isn't so rude to interrupt OP making the call to tell her to go to the other room. If he thought it was going to take almost 20 mins, he probably would have told her to leave earlier. The way OP writes it makes it seem like her husband was upset about all the calls, but if you pay attention, he's only upset about the last one. Imo, OP is a small AH because she not only kept her husband up, but she probably also woke up her grandma for something that could have waited until morning.

[@Batman-lg2zj]

Actually NTA

[@amyyaku5022]

S1: When people are so "progressive" they ignore the obvious grooming and abuse (I see nothing wrong with an age gap in a relationship or if the student was well out of school when dating their teacher, but a teacher dating and marrying their student who is barely an adult is messed up. I said progressive since a lot of people are open minded about this without thinking about how dangerous this relationship is). S2: NTA. It was just 45 minutes and for a family emergency at that 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@justine8387]

Nothing progressive about ignoring power dynamics.

[@celiasoto421]

Even in Ny he will get fire his teaching license will be dne and they will put him maybe as sex offender if they found out he started all that when she was16 even he didn't had anything with her.

[@jasoncarter4343]

There is a local couple here who have been married for 20 years and have several kids. He was a 28 y/o high school teacher and she was his 18 y/o student. When her brothers found out they were dating, they vandalized his car and home and spray painted “pedaphile” on his car. He had to relocate to a different school. They married after she graduated and have been happily married ever since.

[@salomerodriguez5145]

I don't think OP2 was the AH but why did she have to call the grandma and not the brother? That made zero sense.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Because she still had a few days of the honeymoon left and so she called the grandma for temporary in-person support for the brother until the honeymoon is over so that the op doesn't need to take anymore calls. Not sure how this was never thought of.

[@penhxd5970]

She just got off the call with her brother, and then she called grandma right after.

[@Nevertoleave]

Nope, nope, nonononono. 🚩🚩🚩

[@FoxExcess]

"being a woman and the recording" Being a woman has nothing to do with the police taking you seriously, I'm so sick of hearing people claim that. Women are arrested plenty for people falsely accusing them of things, or people claiming self defense when she was actually the one defending herself. Obviously having a bloody recording of the incident is why the police were so one sided, gender has nothing to do with it.

[@americasteam2112]

Women getting hit is more likely to be taken seriously than a man I am not trying to be those loser red pill fucks. Cops are known to not take things seriously.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Hey ding dong if you didn't know more often that not in instances of assault a guy is much more likely to get in deep sh×t than a gal because of their sex and how woman ate typically seen as pitiful and weak so there's more of an emphasis on protecting them than there is for a man. It's the same when it comes to cases of sexual assault and/or rape since more often than not if it happens to a guy he is either called lucky or its not taken serious at all. If a woman is sexual assaulted/raped then it's taken much more seriously and even if it's later found out to be a false accusation against a man then his life is often messed up no matter what and the punishment for false accusations are nothing compared to what an actual case of rape/sexual assault give. Don't give us that bullsh×t about being a woman not being taken more seriously by police when more often than not its blatantly true. Being arrested for false accusations doesn't mean much when the sentence is always so pitiful

[@averycheesypotato]

@@americasteam2112 A woman being hit is taken seriously when it can be proven, but the view that “all women are liars” is unfortunately strong among law enforcement. OP had a recording, and her sister sided with her, so the creep was screwed. If it were just OP saying he hit her, with him being a respected member of the community (undeservedly), it may have gone another way

[@sandyberger-r9j]

I knew a girl who was married to her college teacher. When we were pn a field trip, she hit on the instructor, also easily 30 her senior. Guess she had daddy issues..

[@kiraalexandraruizburgos1236]

🦐

[@dinobotsc2017]

❤😂😂😂😂😂😂🍤🍤🍤

[@TheNormalGecko]

Sorry to say, as a big fan of your content, I can see there's been a pretty steep decline in variety and effort... it's been more than half a year straight of the same sub, similar stories, where channels like Rslash actively move through different subs, allowing reach to larger audiences and following the algorithm. I can also see the production value has taken a quite steep decline which again is quite upsetting... gonna be sticking with Rslash and Darkfluff sadly..

[@radish6740]

Op added 30 + 30 + 13 and came up up with 45. Op is an unreliable narrator who most definitely spent more than 1 hour & 13 minutes on the phone. The new husband is right to be concerned that his new bride is incapable of removing her head from family’s collective ass long enough to care about him.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Maybe the husband should try to remove his own head from his ass first before it becomes his face.