Told Sister Stop Saying "Family" Like It's Meant To Mean ANYTHING!

[@DuckTapeWarrior1]

It’s hilarious when the people that kicked you out then say that you’re family when they want something.

[@wrestlingfan3117]

Yeah. I wouldn’t blame OP for feeling that way because they kicked him out when he 15!!!

[@chadnorris8257]

It's weird how some of these stories are about a family disowning an individual, and having no contact for years if not decades, then pulling the family card when they want something. You kicked someone out of your life, and went no contact. You are no longer family. Apparently blood isn't thick enough, or else you wouldn't have kicked them out. This shouldn't be a difficult concept to wrap your brain around.

[@wrestlingfan3117]

@@chadnorris8257 They’re very stupid and opportunistic. They’re like ‘we can disown you, but we won’t when you have children’ or someone like that. They’re just a bunch of hypocrites that they felt hurt by OP, while not having any feeling when they disowned him at a young age.

[@chadnorris8257]

@@wrestlingfan3117 Yeah, they want to be grandparents after they disowned their child. Or they need money, or an organ, or something else. It's really sad how many self centered people decide to have kids.

[@wrestlingfan3117]

@@chadnorris8257 Indeed and have them say ‘we gave birth to you so you give us something back’. I would go crazy if I had parents like that. OP is as tough as rhino skin.

[@asherael]

If "family" means anything, than you wouldn't illegally evict your young child. Once you do that, you can NEVER, not EVER claim "family" for any reason. It's like divorcing your spouse (in some new criminal way) and THEN demanding they abide by their wedding vows.

[@anyaarcadia9166]

@Arthur Morgan I think they meant "Ohana", like Lilo and Stitch (And if so, I'm CACKLING at that) Other than that I have no clue how they jumped so far to that

[@RizzRoss9001]

@vergorance They're dead buddy

[@wilsoncalhoun]

That's great and all, but the story was about his response to his younger sister who, considering that he was only fifteen when kicked out, certainly had no say in the matter. He also states that she and his brother have been in touch with him for some time, implying that they looked for him as soon as they were able. Guy's in no way bound to make amends with anybody he doesn't want to but don't make the mistake of blaming the daughter for the transgressions of her parents. She's as much a victim here as anyone.

[@cRuchi96]

@@wilsoncalhoun right!? I'm so glad I saw your comment...like usually I'm all for running for the hills when it comes to toxic families, but yeah How much say did the younger sister have really? It doesn't excuse her actions, but to me it just seems like she's just trying to truly reconnect with her brother.

[@ashleylowther7759]

Agreed!

[@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.]

"Blood is thicker than water" is just an English proverb, it doesn't appear anywhere in the Bible. "The Devil makes work for idle hands" is pretty similar.

[@toffiet3347]

Is that the dont wa nk one

[@jameson1239]

@@toffiet3347 yes

[@MsTemptation]

Why would it appear in the Bible? Plus how in the hell does "The Devil makes work for idle hands" sound similar in any way at all? Jeez talk about reaching....

[@gamestain1511]

The entire quote is "Blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb." It basically means that you CAN choose who you call family

[@rupert909]

@@gamestain1511 read the wiki page, it says that version is is a modern interpretation with no historical evidence to support that being the original quote... The idea of blood being symbolic of family dates to roman times or earlier

[@jackspring7709]

Lol, when she rolled out that old chestnut "You need to let go of the past". "I have. Goodbye." would have been a well deserved answer.

[@LinneAzalea]

He clearly hasn’t though. We need a lot more INFO to that story to judge it. For me he just comes off as petty and immature 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@peteranon8455]

​@@LinneAzalea Nope, you're judging things through the lens of "family" that he owes her anything. The onus is on the person demanding things from you to offer something worthwhile in return for their time. The key statement in the story that highlights this is "This is when she got really pissed off and started to yell," which tells you that she wasn't asking anything, much less politely.

[@LinneAzalea]

@@peteranon8455 Don’t assume things. Had she been one of his parents I would have judged much harder, since I would have had enough to judge them on. In this case, I judged it based on: 1, She had nothing to do with him getting kicked out. Why? Well she is stated to be younger than him, thus she could have been anywhere between 0-14 years old, when he was kicked out. Even if she was 14, she would still have been too young to do anything. Did it ever occur to you that it might have been a really traumatic experience for her? She was too young to stop her parents and too young to help her brother. She might have loved, adored and idolized him, like many younger siblings do. Maybe she had to seek therapy for it? You have no idea, and neither do I, but it’s not a far fetched idea, is it? I for one can’t stand even imagining seeing a sibling getting thrown out at such a young age, if I myself couldn’t even help. 2, She simply wanted to meet him, but was refused in a quite harsh way. So obviously she got hurt and didn’t react in the most mature way (neither did he). She first started asking about thanksgiving, and he said no. She then asked about Christmas, and he said no. Then she simply asked about when they could meet, and he said no, that he had no will or interest in meeting her. Which of course is hurtful, no matter if it’s a sibling or a friend. He doesn’t owe her anything and has no obligation to meet her, but the fact that he doesn’t want to meet her (when we know little of the reasons behind) does make him come off as petty and immature. He has a lot of healing to do still, he clearly isn’t over his past

[@jenniferfaver595]

The blood of the covent is thicker than the water of the womb meaning family we choose is closer than the family we are born in to

[@jenniferfaver595]

Yes it is I live by this cause toxic is toxic family or not

[@demonic_myst4503]

What they mean is the original saying is older than that one its nit a reference to it

[@liviwaslost]

@@jenniferfaver595 I wish more people thought like that.

[@gingerleepuppy]

Thank you I was making sure someone made the comment. People misquote this all the time to try to say” oh you need to stand by family”. Not if they’re toxic not if they’re not good for you. Who you choose to be your family is who you stand by.

[@Jenifer_R_]

It probably has its origins in the military.

[@tkb5726]

Story 1: I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. OP went for the fucking _jugular._ 😂

[@BronzeDragon133]

Actually, he went below the belt, worked around there for a while, and presented the results to excellent effect.

[@alexisgrunden1556]

@@BronzeDragon133 I'd say he went for the femoral artery, but in this case, I think he went for the interior illiac artery (branches off the femoral and feeds into the groin)~

[@KE-hr4sb]

I'd say he went for the balls lol.

[@theycallmet3061]

I don't want to use stereotypical slang but honestly she had every fiber of her wig snatched.

[@comradecommissar8223]

I really hope your father lives his last months pain free and surrounded with loving friends and family.

[@lieutenant_wong9351]

Wise words comrade

[@117bertold7]

The 1st story's comeback sounded like the marthyrdom achivement xD

[@femalepapyrus]

That was hilarious

[@117bertold7]

@@femalepapyrus thats right and by the power of the mighty waffle king we got to see that perfectly executed comeback

[@MDB_memes]

Creative and awkward for the sister

[@117bertold7]

@@MDB_memes perfectly balanced as all things should be?

[@MDB_memes]

This is true 117

[@thislookslikepatrick5070]

S1 Honestly Gay people have the best comebacks because theres just so much can say without others being able to retort NTA

[@joimumu]

My faith is humanity is so low that I’m pretty sure OP is rich and OP family only wants his money

[@thislookslikepatrick5070]

@@joimumu wouldn't be surprised if they were.

[@JasperCatProductions]

I don’t understand, if someone I care about said they couldn’t attend etc, I would say ok we’ll miss you. Like yelling,fighting, guilting someone to do what you want is so gross. If someone really missed you they would not act that way.

[@TheNormExperience]

Well said.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that the sister wanted something. Going by the way they booted OP at 15, ignored him for 20 years, and then bitched at him during every major life event after, it doesn't seem like there is any love or affection for OP with that toxic family. Maybe they wanted money, connections, etc from OP, or maybe they just wanted their proverbial punching bag there so they can "relieve stress" at his expense. Either way, I agree; they don't miss him, don't love him, and didn't invite him for altruistic reasons.

[@peteranon8455]

Yes Jasper Cat, that's what healthy people do.

[@larrackell]

Why the hell are people acting like it's so outlandish that they'd get the same server? It's not even remotely hard to believe.

[@cirqule8877]

Ikr, I go to this restaurant in my city all the time and I get the same waitress more often than I'd like to at this point lol

[@Keira_Akoma]

My thoughts exactly! Like I used to go to a restaurant once every two weeks and 9/10 times I would have the same server!

[@志瑜杨]

How does the over tipper know that the person who answered the call when he called was the same waitress? Or that she has the power to return the money, especially with him not physically being at the restaurant?

[@Good_Enough4]

@@志瑜杨 it was more than likely the manager that answered the phone, and if anyone has the power to make that change, it's them. They would be required to come back with the card that was used. However, I'm not entirely sure if that works the same way with a tip.

[@robertx8020]

@@Good_Enough4 Chances are that a creditcard tip (with an extreme amount) doesn't even go to the waitress! What is stopping a manager to tell her, he just tipped $20? Or maybe they collect it all and divide it over all the waitresses. OP could have screwed her over.

[@hagrid419]

"Blood is thicker than water" being used to show family is more important, but custard is thicker than blood, so is dessert more important than family?

[@f.ah.c2114]

You obviously never had siblings and a cake too small for everyone if you truly need to ask

[@sharkgirl3609]

Wise words of wisdom from the ground keeper.

[@Yuritsissymaid]

lol 😆 good ones hagrid

[@TheNormExperience]

Depends on the dessert. Lemon Meringue Pie? Hell yes! Fruit cake? Nahhhhh.

[@ruthgriffiths7365]

@Kageyama’s Milk You are commenting in a forum which exists to allow people to offer an opinion. If your response to opinions you don't like is to tell the poster to stfu, then you completely negate the purpose and function of debate.

[@_Fizel_]

Why is everyone saying 'you couldn't have had the same waitress so it must be fake'? Like wtf. Restaurants don't have an endless supply of waiters people.

[@LadyMcBite]

"Blood is thicker than water, but the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb"

[@Riomy13]

Wait, wait, wait: The parents kicked the boy out at 15 and now the sister is blaming the guy for leaving the family? It's not like he had any say in the matter there. How delusional can you be...?

[@Opalescant_moon]

The actual saying is:" The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb."

[@SmoothBrainStuff]

Is it bad I actually laughed when I heard the comeback from OP in story one People are staring at me now

[@thedestroyasystem]

ikr? very creative. If his family doesn't accept him, they don't deserve to be a part of his life.

[@SmoothBrainStuff]

@@thedestroyasystem Pride acceptance 👌

[@climaxstriker]

nah that was fucking funny as fuck.

[@SilveryBlue1010]

That witty comeback killed me XD

[@RavenheartIndustries]

It was quite literally a cum-back... I'll leave now

[@Musical_Pigeon]

Story 2: Unlikely to have the same waitress in different visits!? There are places where I live in America that I consistently have the same waitress in different visits. Some have been there for years and know my drink orders without having to ask. At places on my college campus I consistently have to the same people from at the places I frequent, I've also been served by friends at some of the places. It's not like when you have a job you only get to work once a week and have no consistency.

[@clairebear-96]

Right that’s what I was thinking too! I used to go to this one restaurant all the time and I would see the same waitresses there pretty much every time! Whoever’s saying “oh i highly doubt it was the same waitress, what are the odds” Have you ever been to a restaurant regularly? the same ppl are always there lmao

[@zozocecp]

Yeah... as a waitress, I get a lot of repeat tables. Heck, sometimes my regulars are tables that just somehow, get my section every time.

[@Jessidafennecfox]

@@zozocecp much respect to you for being a waitress.

[@MrJpaynebb]

YTA. You went out with the intentions to purposely not tip the server. Servers don't have the authority to return or refund a tip once it's been processed only management does. OP has taken his anger out on the wrong person. Also the restaurant didn't overcharge you, they processed the payment which you filled out and signed for. The server didn't forge a signature or write in that tip, OP did.

[@abrahamlincoln8573]

@@MrJpaynebb you are absolutely not obligated to pay a tip. Tips are just a way to show how you liked the food. Also tips is just an excuse to avoid paying minimum wage. You are already paying for the food to be serviced in the form of cash. Why are tips necessary to you? Yes customer service jobs are hard but not being paid properly by management is not the customer's fault.

[@AndyPrimeOne]

Story 2, I hope he never wants to go there again. Cause I would be worried about spit in food if I did that.

[@emilie5716]

I think the second someone uses the word 'family' as a weapon, they stop bring family.

[@violacheesegay796]

My grandma is constantly going "blood is thicker then water, family comes first etc" She gets PISSED, to the point where she has thrown me out on christmas, when i say "maybe so, but i can atleast pick my friends" 🤭

[@terryburnett751]

Last story. Even his girl doesn't want his family around, that should tell you something.

[@cheskydivision]

I want to know why sister is trying so hard to have brother over all of a sudden. When ppl who usually ignore you start showing up they want something.

[@LinneAzalea]

@Osito Kintsugi If she wanted something of him or wanted to announce something, she wouldn’t be asking about both thanksgiving and Christmas and just whenever they’d meet. Did we even read the same story? She has clearly been trying to keep in contact with him but he seems to blame her for what their parents did.

[@LinneAzalea]

Nowhere in the story did it say that it was all of a sudden. He clearly said it’s been going on for several years. Jesus, y’all are really bad to pay attention. Also did you notice the detail that she was younger than him? Meaning she was really young when he was kicked out.

[@jinxgiz3104]

The guy in story 2, why would you go back if A) you had no intention of tipping in a country where waitstaff are heavily reliant on tips and B) they didn't refund when you think you were overcharged?

[@toffiet3347]

He wornt over charged he over payed. Over charging would be putting one two many items on his bill. He pressed an extra 0 when tipping

[@f.ah.c2114]

His friends wanted to go, and makes me wonder why was he the one tipping. Also, I never read an implication the post was from the U.S.

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

Waiters aren't reliant on tips in America its a common misconception because they don't want you to know that they can't earn less than minimum wage, if they made less than minimum for a shift the restaurant by law has to pay the difference.

[@darkshadow5581]

Except 1)his friends brough it up because they learned what happened after they planned to go 2)the tip was a comrpomise to them still going. If they didnt she still misses tip. Also, it.adds up to waitress g ed tting more than if they tipped with no mistake (100+0>10+80). They agreed of its above 90 they pay the difference, i say thats a fair compromise. He effectivley just secures the service his money would of bought

[@angelnavarro1010]

Because A) it's not a requirement, B) is friend's convinced him, C) he really enjoys the food, D) he meant the tip he never once said that they overcharged him when it came to food

[@unkemptjargon91]

As someone who survives off of tips, not a waiter but a delivery driver, I can say that was the a hole. It's illegal for us to alter the information on the credit card slip if the customer isn't physically present. Also a few times in that post strike me as the guy bending the truth to make his story sound better. Like the server getting the manager in response to you not tipping... that doesn't happen ever.

[@TheZombifiedFairy]

Yea... don't say never. I went to a restaurant once and we had a big party. Gratuity was already included in the check and we were going to tip more but the service was horrid (so much so that no one from our party has ever went back or recommended the place). Well entitled waitress made a scene and then went to the manager telling him WE were making the scene. He comped 25% of the bill, don't know (and don't care) what happened to her. Waiters can be (and many are) entitled.

[@justinjones-smith5168]

Story 4: NTA. There's some clear favoritism and she didn't do very well to protect you from bullying.

[@blackfedoramedia6498]

I mean she's the one who went to the manager, OP never said he was going to tip ever again just not that time. She alredy got 100$ out of them unfairly, what more could he possibly owe her?

[@skullsandlotuses]

Exactly!

[@marcusegan8682]

the $100 wasn't gotten unfairly, just mistakenly. My issue is, why was she even checking the tip and complaining about it before OP even left? Or did he bring it up while paying "Hey, just so you know Im not tipping this time because of last time?"

[@darkshadow5581]

@@marcusegan8682 except it becomes malicious when they refused him the refund. Imagine grabbing McDonalds for $10, and grabbing a $100 bill but being refused refund. She got MORE money then if he didnt make the mistake (100>90)

[@angelnavarro1010]

@@marcusegan8682 he told her, and not tipping her also wasn't unfair

[@kaileyjohnson3870]

@@darkshadow5581 if he asked for it at the restaurant they would have gave it to him she paid the taxes on that tip

[@taylorwiseman8078]

Story 1 "Blood is thicker than water" Even though the original quote meant the opposite of how it's used now.

[@zachf748]

That’s an A+ response to the whole "blood family" argument people love to use. Lol

[@redconvoy]

The one with the "family" argument, I never let that sway me. Believe me, I have one family member that tries to use that and it doesn't work with me. I am over it.

[@krystalendermalie1361]

What's a moby? And tipping is to show how we felt about our food. However, some restaurants use it as an excuse to keep people on minimum wage.

[@angelnavarro1010]

Facts

[@angelnavarro1010]

It should be YOUR choice

[@kaileyjohnson3870]

Servers get paid 2.13 an hour on average and the tip is added on to there wages and they pay tax on it.

[@angelnavarro1010]

@@kaileyjohnson3870 and why do you think that they are paid that low? Because tipping has become so common that people now think it's mandatory, and because of that employers can legally pay less, if we just stopped tipping this wouldn't be that big of an issue, we're like the only country that does this

[@tazhienunurbusinezz1703]

@@angelnavarro1010 Yes that's all true but hardly the waitstaff's issue. If people want to change that policy we have to go to the people who make those decisions & stop harassing the people who can't do a thing about it.

[@krisg4815162342]

i've worked in restaurants for 25 years, and i say the second guy is NTA. That waitress sounds like a scammer. also, there's no way those comped dishes are coming out of the waitress' check.

[@TheNormExperience]

The last story is NTA. Putting your future children’s well being ahead of anything, especially your mother’s pride is what a parent is *supposed* to do. I’m so sorry your mother couldn’t ever do it for you, but well done for NOT repeating that cycle for your own kids. You’ sound like the only adult in your toxic family, even at such a young age. But amazing that you’ve learned from that bad environment to get better because you’re already a better parent than your own and you haven’t even had a child yet.

[@spacetofu5306]

The clapback at the first story had me laughing because it was so good.

[@theonlybomber]

Oh sweet lord! That come back comment was F-ing brilliant!!! I nearly peed myself trying to drive to the store when I heard that & Mark your narration didn’t help when you cracked up too!!! Then when mentioned the visualization I definitely peed myself a little!!!!!!!!!

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Title story NTA op should've cut the lot out of their life Second story well umm... I can't blame them but bad karma a bit? Third story NTA leave the bridge nuked Fourth story NTA cut the b out of your life permanently

[@TheMarie2000]

First story i coughed when he responded the way he did. Fabulous "burn" . The proper saying for blood is thicker than water is " the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb".

[@annvictor9627]

I'm sorry about your father, Mark. Even though I spent years peeking into my parents' bedroom to make sure Dad was still breathing after he had that bypass when I was 16, it was still a shock when he died. Take care of yourself when it happens. (For younger readers who might think I was being paranoid, bypass surgery was still so new then, that my dad was the hopeless patient the doctors at Walter Reed [just "Army Hospital" at the time] picked to try it out on. So much of his heart had been destroyed that he should have had a triple, not single, bypass. They just didn't know that then.)

[@annvictor9627]

@Osito Kintsugi Thank you. It was not recent.

[@rayfordreed9304]

Story 2: NTA, the waitress tried to get a customer banned for not tipping. That's not right because tipping is not mandatory

[@goawayleavemealone2880]

I'm not American, I've left places before even ordering because the menu said "14% mandatory gratuity". I know servers are paid a terrible wage and are extremely reliant on tips, but they need to get over the idea that tips are mandatory.

[@strawberrysangria1474]

I love this philosophical question of what's thicker than blood and water. Oobleck surpasses all! Praise cornstarch for it's might!

[@jameson1239]

Maple syrup is thicker then blood and water

[@501Magnum]

1. NTA. That comeback was beyond epic. XD 2. NTA. The only AH here are the owners of that restaurant. 3. NTA. N/A (having a brainfart and can't think of anything to explain my thoughts on this one) 4. NTA. No one should be compelled to have a relationship with someone they don't want in their life. Even if that someone is their family.

[@志瑜杨]

He said he called the restaurant, not physically visited. If I answered a call and someone claimed that they overpaid but did not provide proof (which cannot be done over the phone) I would refuse. If I didn’t and it turned out that they were lying, I could lose my job.

[@501Magnum]

@@志瑜杨 Well yeah, but the one talking to OP on the phone could've been more empathetic and given him the option to return to the restaurant to talk about it further.

[@RavenheartIndustries]

Mark: Too much info, but it was a good comeback... Me: Oh you and your Dad joke puns... lol

[@falling_bones]

Oh, yeah! The blood of the covenant is thicker then the water of the womb. It’s one that I’ve always gone by, since I learned it.

[@ericksaulbetetaperez2208]

Well actually in the first story, I think that his brothers din't kick him out, it was his parents' actions, probably his brother and sister are trying to repair what their parents done, so I'll go with NAH

[@momotaro1236]

I don’t want to ruin the mood of the video and I don’t know what the specific laws are where you live but you may want your dad to sign paper work that says if he’s going to die for the EMTs not to try to revive him. Depending on where you live they are required to try to revive him even if they know it’s impossible to get him back, it can be very Trumatic to see a person go though that.

[@jameson1239]

A DNR card that’s actually a good idea if his dad wants that

[@courtneycherry113]

When my great grandmother passed she was revived 4 times before she passed. It was heart breaking and I wouldn't want it.

[@jennysmith38]

My mum doesn't want to be resuscitated, we have already done all the paperwork

[@thecraftycyborg9024]

... you mentioned your dad needing a stairlift right as I was taking my chairlift down to the basement. I had a moment of thinking you were psychic, lol. Accepting needing a stairlift is hard but they’re so damn helpful!

[@ravenvixen7903]

Story 2: NTA for one very specific reason. The meal comp, her possibly losing it out of her wages, possibly getting in trouble and fired... that's all on her. He and his group didn't call a manager to get them involved, the waitress did. She was the one who caused a commotion over it. She could very easily have copped it on the chin, taken a moment to realise she was still up $10 in tips from one customer and gone on in life. She chose to make a scene, she can take the consequences.

[@grimhatesyou2663]

The actual saying is "Blood of the coven is thicker than Water of the womb"

[@melvinISmischievous]

I personally like" blood is thicker then water but water washes away blood"

[@hatterrose]

When parents throw minors out of their home it is not only immoral but it is also illegal. Small restaurants often have a small staff, or people who work regular shifts. As a previous server, no manager of mine would ever have refused to reverse the charge, that is BS. Tipping is not required most places unless it is a party over 6. 15-20% is pretty standard for good service. Plenty of people don't or leave religious pamphlets or crap like that. Luckily a lot of restaurants are switching to a decent hourly wage, and tips are just extra.

[@JeremyBolanos]

Tipping is stupid. Pay your staff!

[@madeleineastor4652]

Unfortunately when a family member is sick and dying or dies you get some family that are quick to judge and poke their nose in or others that just want money! I hope it works out !

[@15oClock]

1. Oh, so OP has to act like family, but the family doesn't have to? Yeah, this has to go both ways or neither way. 2. Punish the restaurant with no patronage if you want, but not the server with no tip! There's nothing to proven, gained, or learned by this; you're just petty. 3. All of this is based on a rumored of maliciousness. If it's true, OP has no need to associate with those who won't apologize, but if they're not.... 4. "I tried my best!" Well, that was never enough to make up for not being loved like a child should.

[@f.ah.c2114]

In 2 I don’t think it’s about “proving a point” and more like “no to waste an exorbitan amount of money on bloody tips”. 100 bucks isn’t pocket change.

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

The restaurant isn't required to refund a tip but 95% will in this situation if you catch it before closing.

[@darkshadow5581]

For story 2, the server got more from the mistake though. (100+0>10+80). Despite this she still complains. Very entitled.

[@15oClock]

@@darkshadow5581 Would you think it's fair if it happened to you? One day, a table of two tips $100 and another day a group tips you nothing because one guy was unintentionally generous one time? No, because it's not your fault and you're the one being punished for something you didn't do.

[@angelnavarro1010]

@@15oClock it was the same waitress both times, and that would just be bad luck, you aren't required to tip

[@driftninja_468]

‘My husbands blood didn’t run through my body, but his semen did’ *WHAT A BURN*

[@lightwork11]

I'm so sorry about your dad, Mark, and those false accusations are reprehensible.

[@hrobert2338]

For those saying the sister isn't to blame in 1st story, did you miss the part where she and the brother berated OP when the dad died then when mom got sick? She may not have been the one to throw OP out but perhaps OP is justified in not wanting anything to do with her Also, if she really does want to rekindle a relationship why does it have to be a holiday with most likely other members of the family that OP doesn't want to be around? Why can't she suggest just her and OP meet up for coffee or something?

[@Shinigami-ve1mf]

Story 2 I used to work at a restaurant granted it was in the back of the house but I couldnt stand the girls(90% of our wait staff were girls and relatives to the owner) that felt they deserved the tip and some of those girls treated my guys in the back like crap so I'm going with NTA. And its completely common to have the same waitress/waiter 2 days in a row just like it's common to come in for lunch and have the same girl when you come in for dinner

[@robinroscoe3531]

The blood of battle is thicker than the water of the womb

[@halima-joyelliston5707]

Story three: I feel him there. My mother’s family were utter shitheads leading up to, during, and after my brothers funeral. Completely unsupportive with the few exceptions of my grandmother, my uncle, and one cousin. They had the gall to alienate my brothers only child from my mother and all of her children (who saw my brother as their father figure), not visit her for the entire first year, save for one who brought flowers twice (the aforementioned one cousin), and proceed to also alienate her from the extended family. Just picture the pain she had to go through: losing her first son, thinking that she had a strong support system, being alienated by that support system, and having to leave to go live with your daughters hundreds of miles away because the people who are supposed to be your family are shitting all over you. If I could completely cut all of them off, without hurting my mothers feelings, I would. It doesn’t matter how much they act as though they care, they showed that their love is not unconditional, and that when shit gets hard, they lash out at people who are already hurting. OP is completely NTA. You can’t choose blood relations, but you can choose family.

[@Lisapizzza]

It wasn't until I saw that comment that I also thought that the original was 'the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb'

[@emm_uhh]

From my experience many resteraunt's credit card machine are OLD. The only way you can refund is physically putting the card in the machine. ALSO tips don't just go to the waitress, they often get split between wait staff, hostess, and people who bus tables. So he could of had the same waitress but different wait staff.

[@rorimorganwilliams7294]

I realized just how horrible having to depend on tips is when I was trying to get an accounting degree. A restaurant can pay a server as low $1.50 to $3.00 per hour and they are supposed to make up the rest to minimum wage in tips. The owner is not obligated to pay the difference if they don’t make it to the thresh hold of minimum wage because it is “a sign of their performance.” There is many things in accounting that isn’t right so I couldn’t finish the degree. I tip a lot because of knowing this.

[@AAAReview]

Story 1: NTA Hilarious Story 2: NTA If it was the same waitress, it all evens out so it's fine. Though I wouldn't go back there as your goodwill there is gone. Story 3: NTA cut out those toxic ppl, you don't need to talk to them. Story 4: No judgement, seek therapy and then decide what you want to do. Do what's best for you.

[@WatsonAndDaughter]

How does it all "even out?" OP effectively paid less than 10% per meal at a fancy resturaunt. And that doesn't even account for the fact that card tips are shared with BOH.

[@reptilelover2129]

Hey I'm early! 1. The real saying is "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” It means that the people you shed blood for is thicker then the blood of the womb. "His blood might not run through my body but his seamen." BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA🤣😂 2. In the US some waiters/waitress' do in fact demand tips even though it isn't mandatory. She isn't entitled to a tip in the first place so she shouldn't be demanding extra money. If she would have had the dma amount in the same two times, she doesn't need any more.

[@wilsoncalhoun]

"The real saying is...." Only since 2005-ish when a messianic rabbi decided to use it in a homily. The actual saying goes back to at least the 17th century and reads, "blood be not spoilt by water." The modern version is likely the result of cultural or historical misunderstanding.

[@WatsonAndDaughter]

Tipping isn't mandatory, but waitresses get paid as little as $2 an hour. Refusing to tip is disgusting. If you don't have the money to tip or don't want to, go to fucking McDonald's where you belong.

[@wilsoncalhoun]

@@WatsonAndDaughter If you're working for tips and don't make at least minimum wage your employer has to make up the difference. If you're waiting tables and your take home is only $2 an hour then you've got both a state and federal case and need to talk to a lawyer. American style tipping only serves to justify predatory employment practices by placing the cost of employee payroll squarely on the customer instead of the employer; it's just more welfare for the powerful over the weak.

[@reptilelover2129]

@@WatsonAndDaughter $2 an hour? TF? No one is entitled to extra money from a stranger. And if I'm not mistaken $2 in hour is not allowed. No one has to tip, A-hole. Tipping was originally a bribe back in the day if I'm not mistaken. Are you awear other countries find tipping disrespectful? Are they A-holes too if they refuse to tip in America? My mom sometimes didn't rip because we couldn't afford it, but she still wanted the best for me. You can go F yourself with that backwards logic.

[@reptilelover2129]

@@sw3783 I'm sorry to hear that, but my point is, I think the waitress is TA because of how she handled it. Thinking that you can force someone to give you a tip when it isn't mandatory is a bit entitled and getring the manager involved is worse. Or maybe that's just me, but I can't imagine asking a customer for a tip, nevertheless expecting one like I'm owed it. I'm sorry you went to bed hungry and believe me, I do infact tip when I can (which is often) but I do believe that when you demand more money after being tipped $100 the day before is rediculous. Or again, maybe that's just me. If a customer gave me a $100 tip, I would be surprised if they bothered giving me more, especially if it was a mistake the first time.

[@nightcorelucario2218]

Story 1: NTA. She can't demand shit from you and not keeping contact with you tells she's not family. That ending was a fucking power move xD Story 2: NTA. If it was very recent then I think your assessment of what you did was fair. You gave them a 100 tip by mistake, that's twice the price of your meal and well over any 20% tip you'd rack up on a normal service and not giving it back. They're getting away with robbery if you ask me. I don't know anything about this mandatory tip thing since I'm from the UK and tipping is just a kind gesture for a good service and non mandatory. What you do in America just sounds like a shit reason for companies to pay their employees minimum wage Story 3: NTA. It's your wedding so you choose who attends and it's completely up to you if bridges are mended or not. Your grandma sounded like a wonderful person Story 4: NTA. I'd have cut her off ages ago. I'd steal the quote from story 1 but I can't bring myself to type that xD

[@志瑜杨]

I live in the US and if someone called me and told me they overpaid, I would not be able to give them the money back. Physically going to the place might be different. People cannot provide proof of over paying by calling the place of business. Even if I was able to return the money, I would be risking my job. They would need to physically come to the store and provide proof that they paid extra for me to try to do anything about it. Because if people lie and I give them money, I will be jobless.

[@izzy10125]

Story 2: NTA. Server in the US here. I've served in restaurants and showed this to my bf who has way more server and managing experience than me. It is very possible to get the same servers especially post covid since restaurants retained a solid skeleton crew. If OP really called the restaurant as soon as he got home, the charge is very easily changed in the system and the restaurant should not have denied it or should have offered an alternative. The fact that the waitress was angry that OP didn't tip shows that she does check tips and most likely didn't even address it last time. Her entitled attitude is gross and unprofessional which can lead to termination in some places.. And manager comping dishes does not come out of the server but can get logged in incident reports. If she did get reprimanded, it was for her piss poor attitude. While most places in the US barely pay anything, some states like California do pay their employees minimum wage and im not sure where op is. In my state, we get $9 per hour but the restaurant does have to pay the difference if we do not get enough tips to meet minimum wage of $12 per hour. Not all states are the same but hopefully this explains a bit. Ultimately, gratuities are not a right but a thank you for good service. The government is the one who should be setting laws to make server minimum wage instead of forcing patrons to tip so we can survive. Getting stiffed comes with the job. Suck it up and move on or find something else.

[@samakiraroyjanssen6326]

and for those saying waitress got stiffed. she got stiffed 80$. OP payed 100 when he intended to pay 10, and the restaurant refused refund. therefore, restaurant stiffed HIM 90$.

[@jamestown8398]

I'm sorry about the situation with your father, Mark.

[@jacquiethebibliophil]

Tipping story: I was taking an Advanced Story Telling class at Western Washington University and I had to arrange a story telling concert, of which I also had to perform in. I was VERY stressed and despite diabetes type I, I didn't eat all day, just drank sugared lattes. After it was all over I took my fiancé and his boss to a nice Mexican restaurant, my treat. I was starving by that time. I ordered a full meal and two ala carte items. The waiter commented TWICE that that was "a lot of food!" I gave him a chilly smile and said I knew. He brought the appies then dinners and I noticed my platter didn't have the rice and beans it should have. I called him over and pointed it out. He said he "thought it was just too much for one person and so left them off." I was mad by that point and said I had ordered it so I obviously wanted it. It was embarrassing to have that exchange in front of my two guests. And really my tip would have been based on the bill total--order more=bigger bill=bigger tip. Why did he care if I was being a hog? Well, the tip *would* have been based on the total if he hadn't been a jerk. I paid cash and in the tip area I wrote "you put in your two cents so here is my two cents". Yup, for an almost $100.00 bill (appetizers, dinners, drinks, my ala carte extras and a shared dessert came up to $100.00 and he got two pennies as his tip.

[@smilingbandit6900]

type 1 here too and depending on my state i would have torn him a new one i think. Unbelievable ...

[@WatsonAndDaughter]

Yeah, but your waiter was the ass there. OP's waitress did absolutely nothing to them and they lost their mind over a $20 mistake THEY made.

[@samakiraroyjanssen6326]

@@WatsonAndDaughter 90$. not 20. he meant to pay 10, wrote in an extra 0, tried to correct this mistake, was told no, you cant fix your mistake, we will be benefiting from it, and so next time made absolutely sure no mistake could occur.

[@SIXPACFISH]

If my table ordered a whole barbequed pig. I would smile and say Great choice, sir! Ain't no skin off my nose what someone orders.

[@ggdail]

Former server/bartender here. Story 2: YTA. It's not unheard of for someone to give a massive tip around holidays or in times of hardship. At most restaurants, at the end of the night your tips are given to you in the form of cash. They don't typically refund tips after the end of shift because that would require the server to pay the restaurant back the money from their own funds. This also throws off the server's tax reports. I've worked at a couple of different places where customers would routinely treat their friends/family/clients to a big night out, tipping generously, only to ask for the charges to be reversed the following day. They get to look like the big shot, but then they don't get seen trying to steal that money back from the restaurant & server.

[@luckyassassin1]

Why is it so hard for people to believe that he did get the same server? I cant even count how many times i get the same server when i go out to eat because almost every time i get the same one, it's not that rare

[@nicolebaker7659]

1st story's comeback was genius!👍

[@sirenspeaks3210]

That ending to the first story just made me laugh so hard omg The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb

[@sirenspeaks3210]

oh crap didn't listen to the answers first woops

[@Shniedelwoodz]

If people accuse you of [insert doing horrible thing for money], ask them if that's something they would do because you can't see what's in other people's minds but you can see what's going on in your's and assume other think alike.

[@SonicdaShapeshifter]

It's actually entirely possible to get the same waiter or waitress if you return to the same restaurant on numerous occasions. Considering the hefty tip the guy accidentally gave the last time, the waitress may have specifically requested to wait on his table, likely expecting more.

[@daniellediller5070]

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.

[@SounnyKitty]

I heard it as "the blood of brotherhood is thicker than the water of the womb" meaning those you make family is a stranger bond the family you were into.

[@jasminebarnes2764]

First, sending love and support. As someone who lives off tips, we are told by the manager that if someone tips us a large amount like that, we have to correct them and make sure they aren't giving us too much. Like if someone is drunk and tip us too much, we have to give it back even if it's the next day.

[@NeoLotex]

Story 2: I think the no tip thing was fair, but I would've declined to have dishes combed.

[@beautybard]

I love seeing my name at the beginning of the list, reminding me that I've been here since the Daddy Cringe days. I know it's silly. I've had to explain to my fiance why I love you to bits and he eventually understood. You're kind, funny and help me through my long days of cleaning and/or drawing. Also I love when you waffle on about shit and apologize... no need. I love when you go on about your related experiences. Sorry about MY waffling. I've just been listening to you off and on all day and had to spill my lil Texan guts. 🥰

[@KittyKittyPeowPeow]

The Blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. It's meant to say that bonds you with friends is stronger than those formed through family, because you have a choice in who your friends are, you don't have a choice in what family you're brought into. If your family ever uses the line about Blood being thicker than water, they're just trying to get you to do something that benefits them that's going to cost you your sanity/time/money. Tell them to F off.

[@NuRaLoQi]

Story 1 - NTA. I love his response. Story 2 - NTA. Tips are not mandatory. Goods and services have set prices that you agree before hand. The same in a restaurant and it's menu. The price isn't a surprise, it's on the menu itself. I don't mind tipping, but to just expect it from everyone just because? F-That. Story 3 - NAH... It's just a shitty situation all around. Story 4 - NTA. No one is forced to have any adults in their life.

[@PixelPawse]

No normal waitress would demand someone to get a tip and get the manager to force them to tip

[@CodyJonesXD]

Actually I've Heard That Saying Before. The Blood Of The Covenant Is Thicker Than The Water Of The Womb. It's not an old saying Like "Blood Is Thicker Than Water" but it is a saying. I can't remember if its from a movie or a book though. Maybe from a movie/book that revolves around a witch.

[@wounderwillow9532]

Blood is thicker than water is a medieval proverb in English that means that familial bonds will always be stronger than bonds of friendship or love. ... The oldest record of this saying can be traced back in the 12th century in German

[@ScarabD]

"Blood is thicker than water" ...yeeeah try telling that to the relatives of Myra Hindley, see how well it goes down. Honestly that always looks so stupid when you realise what OTHER people you're bound together by "blood".

[@scousemouse9566]

Story 1, NTA, that comeback was everything. Great video Mark, thank you 🧇🧇🧇

[@fionna_cool_girl]

"I would say semen is thicker than blood" 😂😂😂😂😂 Bruh! Everyone having a field day with this story

[@philwill0123]

Word up markster👍you almost choked on the semen line🤣🤣

[@Khellyyyyyy]

I need to rant a bit after story 3. Sorry🤣 Backstory: My grandma inherited a huge estate from my great grandparents. She lived there most of her life and she always opened her home to everyone which included distant relatives. Some totally took advantage of that and treated the house like a hotel or airbnb. They would 'visit' her during holiday celebrations, always arriving at midnight, claimed a room or part of the house for themselves and left messes for my mum to clean up after. They only maintained contact with us so that they'd have free lodgings. Fast forward, my grandmas health was deteriorating and mum having no other way to help, put her into a healthcare facility? Old age home? (sorry i can't english) and all hell broke loose. They said that mum didn't care for grandma because she didn't take grandma to live with us. Which is bull🤬 because our home wasnt equipped to suit her needs. They verbally and emotionally abused mum for YEARS. When in fact mum was renovating our house at the same time so that we could take grandma to live with us. During this time, nobody wanted to take her in when they found out that grandma's bedridden but still continued to harass my mum. They stopped after mum finally took grandma to live with us which they sometime still gave her 🤬 because mum hired a maid to care for her needs when mum's working. They wanted mum to tend to grandma's needs while still going to work, etc. Which i don't know how considering grandma is BEDRIDDEN and needed constant care🤷🏻 Now, my grandma had passed and the estate naturally was given to mum because she's grandma's only living child. But EVERYONE started to give mum hell again because they somehow believed that they deserve a part of the estate as well or at least be given free reign of the house like before while saddling mum with all the bills and the upkeeps. Mum sometimes wanted to give in to their demands and mend the bridge because she has no family left. This is where i might be the AH because I keep burning the bridge every single time. I keep reminding her of all the mental and verbal ABUSE they'd thrown at her before. Why would she want to keep any of them in her life?🤷🏻 i wish i can do more but as of right now, i need to protect mum from them without actually being involved in the drama as she didn't want me to fight her battles for her which is bull🤬 because I've seen the damage they'd done to her and despite that i want to be directly involved, i have to respect her wishes for now. Sorry for the long rant lol. As always, great video! Just the kind of boost i need to start my day💖

[@wdf_skar]

The old age home is called a senior facility (if I come off as rude, sorry, I’m just trying to be helpful

[@Khellyyyyyy]

@@wdf_skar thank you kind stranger🌼

[@wdf_skar]

@Mia Smith they’re interchangeable

[@lovelywolv]

We have multiple names but I use nursing home

[@wdf_skar]

@@lovelywolv nursing home was the one I was thinking, but blanked on the name

[@Mitzthatonekid]

Yeetle Skeetle I'm a waffle beetle

[@Sai-AnneMa-jax]

In story 1 they forgot ahana means family and family means no one gets Left Behind or forgoten I love stitch

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

Only as long as there is more than one slice of pizza left. If there is only one piece left, then it is on like WWE.

[@Sai-AnneMa-jax]

And if you are getting bullied at school then you can get your younger sister To defend you and not get expelled when she goes off at the principal for doing nothing about it

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

That would propably be my cousin doing that. But she would also try to kill me (or her siblings) if anyone beats her at UNO.

[@markmasters7982]

The Blood of the Covenant is the true original. The watered down version used to promote family ties (no matter what) over everything is from the Medieval ages

[@Chubbasaurus]

For whatever reason, injustice infuriates me and I have a very hard time forgiving/forgetting people who do something unjust and don't have consequences. Not a grudge, exactly, but something like it. On one occasion, my mum's name was dragged through the mud with absolutely vile lies; on another she was verbally attacked and bullied while vulnerable. The people who did that never saw consequences for their slander or their actions and I'm pretty sure they don't think they were in the wrong. I will never forgive those people, even though my mum says she has. Also, I'm of the mind that forgiveness should only be offered to someone who sincerely asks for it.

[@temp26gaming94]

Normally I don’t side with people who don’t tip but in this story I give it a NTA

[@angelnavarro1010]

Why not?

[@temp26gaming94]

@@angelnavarro1010 why don’t I side with people who don’t tip or why don’t I think he’s the asshole? Question 1: in America wages can be low for certain diners, unfortunately tipping is a very predatory custom which has a tainted history but due to that it in some cases is how waiters and waitresses afford to live. Also generally the courtesy I believe is nice, we give donations to streamers and KZbinrs sometimes those who bust their ass for us deserve it aswell Question 2: in almost all cases it’s up to the server to decide whether they want to return a tip not the management because the tip is solely for the server, or atleast that’s how it is in most cases, therefore she could have returned the wrongly made tip if she so choose to but let’s say she couldn’t no one is entitled to anyone’s hard earned money to demand a tip is greedy and childish, especially if she knows the restaurant or herself did the OP wrong

[@angelnavarro1010]

@@temp26gaming94 I agree with you for the most part, while I know that some servers rely on tips it's also not the customers responsibility to make sure he or she gets a decent meal, if you tip then cool your probably nice but if you don't then I don't believe you're a bad person

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Story 1) OP a straight ip Savage for using that line on his "sister" NTA, i find it funny that the people that basically threw op out of their "family" are suddenly offended when he refuses to be apart of that family again.

[@pennyclark4844]

I've always said where there's a death there's a will and where there's a will there's a fight.

[@babacardiouf3023]

Tipping story is suspect. I work in hospitality. While cash tips might go straight to the waiter who served you, usually credit card tips go into one common pot and are divided equally between all the waiters at the end of the month.

[@f.ah.c2114]

If that’s true, not only it’s unfair, it can drive people not to tip at all. I don’t tip to facilitate others life (that’s charity), I do it as a way to thank and appreciate a good service; I have no intention of tipping someone who didn’t serve me.

[@ryanryde819]

2nd story is definitely NTA. While not tipping can be scummy her attitude from being denied a tip was more than enough to validate it. Especially if she tried getting them banned for just not tipping.

[@AnymousScreams]

I've been told by people, much like my opinion on not being married, that "I would change my mind on the family members that were cut out" for their toxic ways. The whole "people change, give them a chance" statement isn't always true. Being blood connected to someone doesn't make them family, and if someone cuts out toxic family members for bad things, then that's acceptable. You don't need to let them back in when they want it. They might know how bad they were to you, but they never need to be back in your life if you choose to keep them out.

[@laurenmentink7401]

The word "tip" is speculated to be an acronym for "To Insure Promptitude," which was printed on bowls in British coffeehouses. In the United States each state deals with tips differently. Some states give the same minimum wage as other types of workers. My state has a pathetic minimum wage and then the tips makes up the difference. I hate it!

[@samakiraroyjanssen6326]

basically, it was meant to be something to encourage better behaviour. "hmmm, if i make the customers happy, they tip, and i gain extra profit in exchange" which is a perfect idea, because nobody loses out in it. the customer get a better experience at the restaurant, the owner gets happier, and thus more loyal customers, and the waitress get more money.