Made A Joke About A Sensitive Subject To A Friend And Now They're Angry r/AITA Reddit Stories

[@MarkNarrations]

Hey Wafflers, I hope you're having a wonderful evening. TIS THE WEEEEEEKEEEENNNDDD and I wish you a great one. Much love

[@Flotton]

Enjoy the weekend!!

[@katiesmith2031]

Thank you Mark hope you have a wonderful weekend

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

You too m8🤗🤗💜💜

[@FlamesofJagger]

Have a great one Mark. Stay chill 😎 and waffle 🧇 on. Much love 💘 ❤️ 💗 💕 💛 💙 💘

[@badkitty4922]

Thanks for continuing to show fan art! I'm really enjoying it!💖😘

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

She told OP AT HER MOTHER’S FUNERAL that if it was hers, the seats would be full. What kind of garbage person is this?

[@huinismith]

Yeah, my jaw dropped when I heard that.

[@gypsygem9395]

@@huinismith mine too!

[@elevin8858]

I mean, when my husband passed (at only 42 yo), the in-laws tried to tell the rabbi not to expect many people, even as I warned him that I expected a diverse and large crowd (He was low contact). Don’t comment to the mourners on the size of crowd at a funeral. (It wound up being huge and the service went an hour over schedule because all his friends wanted to talk.

[@757Bricksquad]

@@elevin8858 yea I find this very hard to believe

[@Mewse1203]

Story 3: OP'S comment made it pretty clear he thought reddit would back him up and his whole world view has just shown to be bullshit.

[@Ambidexter143]

Poor fluffy, he doesn't get to sleep soundly but it's okay that GIF gets woken up every night. YTA.

[@cereirn2471]

@@Ambidexter143 yeah i hate them piggers.

[@disneydork100]

@@selectidiot he chose to stay, so he should actually help.

[@quaruke9489]

@@selectidiot windsor salt company called... they would very much like their salt back.

[@gilesclone]

Sadly, it didn’t sound like he learned anything from the experience.

[@emtims1670]

Guy hitting himself needs to see a therapist.

[@paigemosher8697]

Considering how he behaves otherwise, I'm 99% sure those are temper tantrums. He's a fucking child.

[@gamefreak2383]

Just sleep deprivation.

[@yourmom2189]

I’m autistic and sometimes when I have a meltdown and don’t know what to do with y extreme feelings, I will hit and/or bit myself. Now I know how to reduce the numbers of meltdowns and don’t do that very often. Therapy is great!

[@veezopolis]

​@gamefreak2383 no it fucking isn't

[@AndyyWithAY]

The lack of empathy is absolutely horrible in story 1. I cannot imagine acting like that with anyone especially a friend. My grandma passed earlier this year and it has been devestating. she was the first loss close to me. Even before that I would never act like the friend, especially now. OP NTA

[@jennilynne1977]

I understand the devastation of losing a grandma. My grandma passed away last year. I was a mess. Listening to Mark helped make each day easier.

[@j.j.juggernaut9709]

Ikr, there is something mentally wrong with the OP's "friend". Who on earth acts this way and then starts bitching as if OP's kinda self-deprecating joke somehow offended HER?

[@wessexdruid5290]

@@j.j.juggernaut9709 "Check your attitude"?? Check YOUR massive privilege, AH.

[@toongrowner1]

a friend of mine lost his mother at very young age, so I refuse to make any jokes about his mother. Like I'm the guy who likes to use the phrase "your mom", but with him I change it up. He also lost a friend to suicide some years ago. We jokes sometimes about it, but only cause I know he is okay with it and is his way to cope with it.

[@bellarose-au]

I am so sorry for your loss. I understand what you are going through. I lost my beloved grandmother a few years ago. It still hurts, not quite so bad as the first 5 years, and now I can think on some memories which bring smiles and a tear or 2 - rather than sobbing floods of tears. She was the last of her generation for our family. I was very close to both my maternal grandparents and I (still) love them dearly. (I never knew my father's parents).

[@SLTheOneAndAwesome19]

Story 3: OP: I won't do night feeds because I'm working *OP gets laid off* OP: No, I won't do night feeds. SO, you don't know what hard work is, so you do it Reddit: Dude, your SO is a SAH, a very real, tough job, and you've been laid off. Apolpgize and help her. OP: BUT I PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH???

[@bantubrat343]

Sad asf

[@frozenheart7133]

The hitting himself thing?!? That guy disgusts me.

[@dracawyn]

Story 3: are we going to gloss over the fact that OP admitted to compulsive self-harming behaviors and was triggered over so small an event? And that he acted out his compulsive self-harming behavior right in front of the baby? Like, he's already the AH for a whole litany of reasons but the guy needs to talk to a therapist. He's really clearly not okay.

[@emilybarclay8831]

Oh wow it’s almost like his partner trapped him with a child he explicitly didn’t want and he got zero say in his own reproductive freedom. That may do a bit of a number on ones mental health. If a woman doesn’t want a baby, she gets to abort it. But men just have to be a parent whether they want to or not

[@YuriKaroki19]

@@emilybarclay8831 lol hope your kidding cuz otherwise you just did a hot take OP's GF didn't trap him with the baby he trap her 2 he's TA for expecting her to do all the work and he just sits around all day 3 you're a idiot for siding with him and i hope you never have kids cuz if that's how you're going to act then I feel sorry for them I hope your comment is a joke otherwise you're just as screwed up as 3rd OP

[@ajlee4296]

@@emilybarclay8831 vasectomy.

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@ajlee4296 vasectomies are not designed to be reversible and you shouldn’t have to have surgery to avoid being babytrapped

[@kichikitsu]

@@emilybarclay8831 neither of them wanted the kid, dude. she was literally ON BIRTH CONTROL. but she decided to take on the responsibility while OP... what? decided to stick around for funsies? if he didn't want to be a parent, he should have fucking **left**. He DID have the choice not to be a parent, but instead wanted to stay while contributing nothing but dead weight. Get off of your incel high horse.

[@sweett2924]

As someone who has lost multiple family members in the last 3 years, morbid humor is something that occurs. It may make someone else uncomfortable but those who have lost understand it. My sis and I joke quite a bit about it. It's not only a way to cope, but it is a laugh in the face of death kind of thing. Idk...it could be I'm just a snarky little brat too. Mark, im so sorry for your loss. Know that you are loved and admired, and that your videos help a lot of people get through the day.

[@kp2223]

Story 2: YTA, as a woman who suffers from HG, this post is insufferable. HG is hyperemesis gravidarum; it's a condition in which a pregnant woman uncontrollably throws up pretty much no matter what they eat or don't eat. During my pregnancies, I lost 30 lb each time, was dehydrated on multiple occasions and, ended up with many hospital stays due to potential renal failure. The fact that someone would willingly choose to throw up over one specific food regularly baffles me.

[@Steampunkkids]

@K P I also suffered from HG. My feeling was that if I’m going to throw up anyway, may as well make it something good. Cake was the perfect food to vomit. I mean, I have to eat something. Plus, my doctors didn’t take my HG seriously at all. They could care less that I spent all day, every day, vomiting. They didn’t care that vomiting like that meant I’d throw up the pills I needed to keep the pregnancy going. So, at that point, you just have to live life. Unfortunately for me, my craving were for mangoes and pineapples. Stringy mango is the worst to throw back up!

[@pansprayers]

I think you mean baffles, not behooves. Behooves is duty or responsibility for someone to do something.

[@cheergiver]

I don’t know that I agree with you. Two of my pregnancies I had huge pregnancy cravings for almonds. A small amount was fine, but at some point, it would be too many and I’d puke. I’ve never had a craving that bad before. I suspect it was PICA as I was severely anemic. Not sure about this cake craving, but I can’t really judge her. It’s hard to resist, especially when someone brought it right there in front of her.

[@Steampunkkids]

@@cheergiver Are you still severely anemic? Because 10+ years later I still am.

[@kp2223]

@@Steampunkkids while i can agree, that if you are going to throw up anyways you might as well eat something you enjoy. But by the sounds of it are OP does not have HG ,she's able to eat many things and cake is the only thing that makes her throw up yet she continues to do it. That just seems so odd to me considering I spent at least two years of my life wanting to die due to pregnancy vomiting. Sorry that doctors did not take your HG seriously. I was lucky enough to have an OB very experienced with HG. However every ER doctor, GP and Walk-In Clinic Doctor thought that I was exaggerating while I was going into renal failure ,so I completely empathize.

[@Emily-ck9ji]

I'm sorry, but the "friend" in story 1 isn't actually OPs friend. She is literally rubbing her living family in OPs nose. It's disgusting and it's definitely on purpose. She's bragging and it's vile. Call her out for purposely trying to hurt you. *Edit: For story 2 and the cake? Sounds like it's an eating disorder, not just a craving. Her hubby wouldn't have canceled all future work plans during the pregnancy so he could essentially babysit her if it was simply about cravings. He also wouldn't have completely torn into his family over one cake either. She needs to go to a doctor and get a handle on this, because she's putting her health and her baby's life at risk. I hope she gets the help she needs to overcome this.

[@BruinPhD2009]

I thought the same thing regarding Story 2, especially when she said she ate half the cake. I will never know anything about pregnancy cravings, but OP seems to have an issue in choosing quantity over quality. And choosing something that will make you vomit? There’s no way that’s healthy. Like you, I hope she gets help for her sake and the sake of her baby AND before she passes on unhealthy eating habits to any of her future children. As for Story 1, pardon my language, but OP’s friend can and should f*ck all the way off. And twice on Sunday.

[@damien678]

For story 2, she could also have ADHD. Our brains are genuinely structured differently, and we have underdeveloped frontal lobes which means we have a harder time with executive functioning skills (side note: this doesn't effect our intellect though), which includes impulsivity control. Because it's caused by how our brains are physically structured, it's so incredibly difficult to stop doing things like eat food we really like. We also have a lack of dopamine in our brains, and actively seek out food that gives us a hit of it, so sugary and carby foods are incredibly addicting to us because of how we're 'chemically wired' to seek dopamine out. Of course we can't know for sure, I kinda just wanted to talk about cool ADHD facts :p I genuinely hope she can find out what the issue is though

[@KyrieChii]

@@damien678 Those are definitely cool facts, & I didn't know any of them 😊 It's certainly a viable explanation.

[@wmdkitty]

@@damien678 Whatever her issue is, she's the asshole. Who the hell eats HALF A CAKE? ADHD or not, that's ridiculous!

[@damien678]

@@wmdkitty People with bad control issues eat half a cake despite it making them throw up consistently. People who genuinely cannot just simply stop. People who need compassion and help. I've had issues like this my entire life (that I actively work on), and again as I said, ADHD brains are physically underdeveloped in areas that effect things like our impulse control. So if she has ADHD, that'd be really important for her to know and treat, especially moving forward with in this situation.

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

STORY 3: *YTA* it doesn’t matter that you did not want this kid, YOUR child is here and needs BOTH parents to take care of him. If you’re sitting around at home you should take part in child care, even if you weren’t laid off of work you should be helping with the baby anyway because it is also your child. OP is treating HIS CHILD like it’s a dog or some other pet the girlfriend decided to get behind his back and convinced him to keep under the conditions “fine but that’s your animal you take care of it“. Saying that she doesn’t know what it’s like to work hard/she’s never worked hard before? HELLOOOOO taking care of a newborn and sacrificing sleep to take care of said newborn is working hard! Just because she’s not getting a paycheck for that, doesn’t mean she’s not working hard. I hope she breaks up with you. Also OP hitting himself in the face when he gets angry because he needs to be a para and take care of his own kid…? OP it does not matter if the pregnancy was planned or not, when you found out she was pregnant you should’ve educated yourself on what to do when your baby was coming. Educating yourself or not the baby was going to come and it would’ve been so much better if you did research on what to do as an expecting father.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

And he's still whining in the comments trying to defend himself by saying he works, when he's been laid off. And saying that he helps by playing with the baby and picking it up. Which isn't helping at all. He has no excuse for what he's doing. Even if he was still working it wouldn't excuse him.

[@KyrieChii]

This is definitely one of those times that someone who genuinely didn't want a child should've done the responsible thing & instead of just relying on his wife to handle all the birth control, should've gotten snipped. He freely admitted he never wanted the child, & clearly already resents them, & if she doesn't already, his wife will soon grow to resent his attitude & realize she needs to leave this relationship for the sake of both she & the child. They'd all be better off if they split up, he paid child support, & she got with someone less self centered.

[@paigemosher8697]

@@KyrieChii And he claims he's so responsible? LOL he's a man baby No wonder he doesn't want kids when he's this immature

[@KyrieChii]

​@@paigemosher8697 He is definitely immature in a lot of ways, & is behaving like a child about this. He didn't seem to have trouble working or doing at least _some_ house chores like an adult before this. I just think he decided that because he never wanted the pregnancy, when the wife decided she wanted to keep it, she was agreeing to take full responsibility for all the child-care, so to him it's now somehow 'unfair' for her to ask him to do anything baby-related, & she should 'be grateful' for what little he _does_ do. She needs to get away from this guy & find someone who can treat them both better, & this guy can find someone child-free like he wants. (I'm child-free myself, I know kids aren't for everyone, but if I had one, you can bet your ass I would do my very best for them).

[@aquabluerose7734]

@@KyrieChii Absolutely! If he knew he never wanted a kid, he should have done the responsible thing!

[@alexlibby5087]

In reference to story one and Mark’s experiences: I recently put it like this as I too tend to make jokes about personal trauma that seem “dark” or callous - Dark humor is a way for those dealing with trauma to release the intense weight they carry around WITHOUT feeling like they are unloading onto a loved one or appearing like a “sob story” for pity

[@TsukiKageTora]

Story 4: I don’t get OP’s girlfriend. She acts like she was forced to eat Thanksgiving meals every week rather than once a year. She should have just sucked it up and eat the food this one time and next Thanksgiving suggest a non-traditional meal for the family to experience. That is damn disrespectful for the first invite to bring your own food because you hate traditional meals as if it was forced down your throat.

[@aquabluerose7734]

Yeah I was really confused by that one. If she had dietary restrictions it would make sense, but since she said she didn't, it sounds like she's preemptively grossed out by her in-laws to be's cooking which is not only rude but plain bizarre since she's never eaten there so it's not like she has reason to expect they'll undercook the turkey or have dog hair in the green beans or something! Also agree that it's odd that she acted like she had to eat Thanksgiving food weekly instead of yearly, I mean if for some reason she actually *did* have to eat Thanksgiving food weekly she could've said that and everyone would've understood!

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@aquabluerose7734 probably trying to see how far she can push OP to take her side over his family’s, which is weird as this is the first time she’d ever meet them. Glad OP wasn’t one of those spineless men that let the women in their life run all over them and their families. Glad he can see disrespect when it is dangling in his face instead of blindly saying “well I didn’t know really” My brother is an example that isn’t OP and he’d get mad if we ever speak up against his girlfriend -they consider themselves married without being married- for eating before coming to our house when we asked them for dinner AND on Thanksgiving and she doesn’t eat a thing because she is full already. My brother can’t see the disrespect like OP does. I wish my brother was OP, he’d be a better son to my mom. (There are more issues than just this) ETA: ranted a little but it’s frustrating that he can’t see how disrespectful she is to our mom and I can’t do anything about it. He would just blame us or believe what she says over us.

[@coldsilverrain9896]

I thought that maybe she is traumatised or something and has some kind of disordered eating around thanksgiving or cooking of other people. Because she sounded pretty unreasonable. But if i am correct I get it. I have anxiety around food made by other people than myself or restaurant staff for some reason.

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@coldsilverrain9896 it doesn’t sound like any of that though. Because it’s her bringing her own meal to a household inviting her over for a dinner. If she didn’t like Thanksgiving or the meals associated with it, she could have just stayed home. I’d never accept an invite to someone’s house for a meal and not eat what they spent time and money cooking and making.

[@coldsilverrain9896]

@@TsukiKageTora of course she could stay home. But maybe she wants to socialise with the family at a family get-together, just doesn't want to eat the food. But if she has an ED she should communicate about that. If I were in the moms situation and she would come to me in advance to talk about that, I would be pretty understanding. But I guess noone else is under the impression that her intentions might be not malicious.

[@raeishimura]

The "friend" in story 1 is absolutely doing it on purpose. it's a knife in OP's heart, having so few family, and her "friend" is just taking joy in twisting that knife as much as possible. Telling OP to "check your attitude" was just her way of saying "let me keep having my fun hurting you how i want and stop calling me out on my bull." I don't have a big family either. I've had so many family members pass. Most recently i lost my grandmother, one of my aunts, and a longtime friend. I live very far from my family, and can't see them more than once a year at best. I used to live with them in the New England area, now i live very far to the south of the united states. the largest portion of my family were such horrible people i ended up cutting them all off. All I still have are my 3 room mates, my mother, my father, and my brother. I get what OP is going through. So, i'd say NTA. That friend absolutely knows what she's doing, and is intentionally doing it to try and hurt OP. I'd tell that same kind of dark joke every time she does that. It's what i've done when people decide to snark about how small my family is. "Oh, if you get married, your side is going to be so small." just reply "It's fine, I plan to hire a Necromancer to officiate. The menu choices are going to be chicken, fish and human brains". or, they go "Oh, family get togethers must be so lonely" I just go "Nah, we hold them at the graveyard! nice full moon, we sacrifice a few barn animals, and boom! the whole family is up and spending time with us. Just gotta keep an eye on uncle Dave, last time he got loose and tried to eat some passerby." Just really lay on the dark jokes. If it makes them uncomfortable? GOOD. That should be the goal. If they get hit with an uncomfortable joke every time they make a comment, they will learn to just stop making the comments. It's like training a dog. Pavlov them to where they associate a snarky comment about your family with uncomfortable dark jokes.

[@KyrieChii]

Yep, she's a huge asshole & OP is too nice. Even the slightest bit of 'snark' & that jerk didn't like having her attention drawn to how insensitive she was being.

[@NCAnon]

I'm going to have to borrow some of these dark joke comments; they're really good comebacks to such a snarky person like OP's "friend"

[@builtontherockhomestead9390]

I was born on Christmas. It is so fun telling children my dad saw Santa leaving me under the tree. Especially the ones old enough to know where babies come from. They don't want to say my dad is a liar but....

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

Story 2: Simply do not do that. Dont eat half a cake especially if it makes you sick

[@KyrieChii]

Unfortunately it sounds like OP either won't, or can't, follow this good advice, or I don't think her husband would've been so quick to cancel his trips for the remaining months of her pregnancy so he could keep an eye on her. It seems like she has some impulse control issues, whether that be from an eating disorder, or as someone above helpfully mentioned, maybe ADHD.

[@lolalo6344]

Story 5. Christmas without presents and spending time in a different room etc. Is exactly how we used to spend Christmas and I loved it! Every year I couldnt wait to play with my cousins and let the boring grownups talk to eachother about boring stuff. Now as an adult I miss those christmases since the adults have grown too old to celebrate it that way. Every family has a different way of celebrating and there is nothing wrong with doing it this way. Especially if you have a childless family member. Christmas isnt about kids and presents it's about family

[@CurliFox]

Agreed. I think the commentors are too harsh on OP.

[@katharineeavan9705]

As a kid this was how my grandparents treated me and my sister. We hated it and hated spending time with them. We were expected to come to them to get birthday presents (they never came to us, in fact I can't actually remember my grandparents ever entering our home even once) and every holiday, anniversary or family birthday, and it got to the point my mum had to bribe us with pancakes after to get us to agree to go. Not every family is the same and if they're so very obviously anti-kid, it's doubtful there's much for the kids to do in the other room or that they're allowed to make noise or be excited or anything else that might inconvenience the adults. I might be projecting, but it's just as likely you are. OP's wife probably knows what kind of xmas her kids prefer better than we do, and he doesn't much seem to care either way

[@francit4856]

Thanksgiving- Finance - I am getting so DONE with the overuse of the term "Controlling." Fiance has absolutely NO manners or social awareness. OP, she's showing you who she is. Do you want this for the rest of your life.....or just your FIRST marriage.

[@yukitenchi1513]

Oddly enough, when I have my period I crave Chinese food, cheese pizza (just plain cheese, I don't know why) and chocolate. All of those were what my mom craved when she was pregnant with me. She didn't even like Chinese food, her friend at the time talked her into it, then a month after she tried it, she found out she was pregnant and became obsessed. When I started to crave this stuff she said to me "well that explains a lot" 😂

[@Metonymy1979]

Grandma celebrates Christmas but doesn't buy her grandkids any presents? She's a Nahumbug. I would definitely do something petty and I don't even like kids.

[@fcold9402]

3. YTA. Here we go, someone who thinks its too hard to do the basics for his kid telling his wife she doesn't know what hard work is. You are freaking unemployed, this is your kid, can you at least pretend like your an adult....you know like you pretended when you were making the kid? Seriously though, why is she with you? You provide just as much value mailing her the checks and then she doesn't have to cleanup after you and stuff.

[@catandrobbyflores]

I'd be willing to be he thinks she got pregnant by herself.

[@goawayleavemealone2880]

@@catandrobbyflores - I'd be willing to bet that she got pregnant through underhanded means.

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@catandrobbyflores she chose to give birth by her self. She literally forced a child on him. She could have aborted it but he didn’t get that choice

[@sagesaria]

As for Christmas traditions: a lot of them have changed over the years because we're getting older and tired, but what that has endured since the time my mom was a kid was that every Christmas Eve, we make tacos with chili and roast beef hash. Another one that's slightly more recent is that I have a stuffed cat from my childhood named Purr whose basically considered part of the family from how long I've had her, and she has her own stocking that my mom fills with kit-kats and nips (a kind of chocolate covered in a light caramel shell) and often a cat ornament for the tree. We have special ornaments that we always place a certain way, such as our turtledoves Romeo and Juliet whom we put on branches vertical to each other like the balcony scene from the play, and my mother's Pooh Bear on a sled that she places so that it leans against a bit of garland like they're sledding on it. Must-watch movies for the time of year are The Bishop's Wife, Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas (which all of us sing along with the song Momma's Barbecue in three/four-part harmony), The House Without a Christmas Tree, and the 1951 live-action A Christmas Carol.

[@muppetsrule1143]

Currently pregnant with twins, due next month. I 100% understand the craving. I'm still throwing up usually once a day. The difference is that I'm not eating anything that I KNOW would make me sick (eggs, heavy oil, etc). I'm also not eating a half a cake, but that would make me sick too.

[@yisajimorales3219]

Should have added to the joke saying: "You're right. I shouldn't leave them out. Since you like digging them up every chance you get, you should help me."

[@vexerthegachatuber5333]

Story #4 (Thankgiving meal) was really weird. I was kinda expecting a bunch of YTA's and ESH's but apparently I'm completely missing something. - They're both 20 (so they've been dating since they were 17) - S/O has never eaten one of Op's Mom's meals - Even though they had a brief conversation it quickly escalated into an arguement (Which still does not explain S/O's reasoning) - This statement stuck out for me "she was forced to eat the same old traditional meals every year by her family" (what does this even mean?) -My last thought is, why are were they having this conversation the day of Thanksgiving? They should have had this a week or 2 prior where planning was still taking place With all of the info here I still have no idea what to rate it. All I have to say is they have poor communication skills and should probably sit down to have a better discussion

[@WhiteWolf-lm7gj]

I can't see an YTA? I don't know, maybe you could say ESH because their communication isn't the best, but their fiancée was trying to go to someone's house, and instead of eating the meal they kindly prepared for Thanksgiving, bring her own meal. That's absolutely something to leave someone at home over.

[@KyrieChii]

Maybe I'm missing the YTA's or ESH's you mention because I haven't gone to the original Reddit thread? All the ones Mark covered for the video were 'NTA's (which I agree with, I don't know what GF was trying to pull, but it's... weird).

[@WhiteWolf-lm7gj]

@@KyrieChii I think they meant that they were expecting those to be the reaction, and was surprised that it was a unanimous NTA instead

[@EveryDayALittleDeath]

I said ESH in my comment here because crying over not being able to bring your own food and the line about Thanksgiving at her family's suggest an unhealthy relationship with food, and it is ridiculously easy to hide an eating disorder in a long distance relationship. I suspect ARFID (severe picky eating to the point it interferes with one's life) or possibly orthorexia (an obsession with healthy eating), since we don't know exactly what she wanted to bring. She's an asshole for refusing to admit to her freaking fiancé that she has some issues with food, he's an asshole for not seeing it.

[@KyrieChii]

@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Ah, gotcha. I was confused there for a second wondering if I missed something.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Story 1: That is a huge disturbing lack of empathy and I can’t imagine ever doing what the friend did to anyone let alone my best friend. OP isn’t the asshole and had to come up with a joke to brighten her mood when her friend flaunted here large family knowing full well her’s is so small because most of them are dead.

[@sammyk.6457]

First one made me burst out laughing, my family jokes about death a lot I mean hell, my dog just died yesterday and we joked about how we’ve been giving the funeral home so much business (one of my other dogs died in September) because they picked her up on a holiday

[@dagnytheartist]

21:10 Beau is pronounced like the "bow" in "bow tie." There's a lot of words I pronounced wrong after years of only reading them and never hearing them pronounced (for example, I used to think the name "Hammie" sounded like the name "Amy.")

[@WillenaJennings]

Story 2: OP, don't be surprised if your child is allergic to chocolate. I had that problem with eggs...

[@karenbanda1100]

With one of mine, all of a sudden I didn’t want peanuts/peanut butter anymore. Guess who is allergic?

[@joreyn7656]

When I was pregnant, I was almost always craving things that I couldn't have. I was mostly craving meat, but the kind of meat that I wasn't allowed to eat, like beef jerky, smoked meats, and cold cut sandwiches. It was super annoying, but I just dealt with it. It was only for nine months.

[@Zucca101]

Story 3: A man takes responsibility. To hear you talk, it’s as if no couple of parents ever had to work and wake in the morning in spite of late night interruptions.

[@alicewilloughby4318]

Story 1 - It feels like the friend(?) has been sort of rubbing OP's nose in how small her remaining family is, compared to the friend's. If OP's comment made her uncomfortable, maybe she should take a hard look at her own comments. Story 3 - Well, better he should hit himself than the baby. I've been known to hit myself when I was really steaming (usually because I'm fantasizing about hitting someone else) but I've never done it in front of a child. Hopefully the baby is too young to know what was going on, but still... Meanwhile telling his wife that she's never worked hard when she's taking at least 95% of the care of a baby was shitty!

[@JUMALATION1]

Story 5: My Christmases have always been spent at my grandmother's house, with my mom, dad, me and my brother there. Occasionally we had my great-aunt or my uncle there, but it was rare. For me Christmas is an extremely important and magical holiday and I am severely stuck in my ways and won't change a thing about how I celebrate, especially now that my grandma's health is deteriorating faster than before. My mom and I usually arrive early and actually prepare all the food for my grandma, as she has trouble walking and gets tired after just moving from one room to another, but even the preparations together are now part of the whole tradition. My fiancé and I have been in a relationship for 11+ years and we have always spent our Christmas Eves apart from each other, but on Christmas Day we go to his family's house.

[@god-rj5wf]

story 3 is WILD at least when hes working every day, him needing more sleep makes some sort of sense, but even when he's NOT working he's whining about having to get up at night? JFC,,

[@paigemosher8697]

I mean, his job isn't harder than raising a baby all on your own so he didn't even have an excuse then.

[@1978honore]

Pregnancy #1 - Dr Pepper Pregnancy #2 - Taco Bell bean burritos / Denny’s breakfast Everything is fine. In moderation! Although I didn’t knowingly eat shit that made me vomit, either lol.

[@UzumakiDonnoHinata]

Oh, hi Waffle King! I'm currently cooking some pasta and debating whether to draw or put up the Christmas tree... it's from the 60's, about 2.5 meters tall, and takes about 3 hours to put together. Can't believe the amount of effort my grandparents put in every year for that thing lol. Much love!

[@MarkNarrations]

Wow, do which ever will make you happiest mate!

[@UzumakiDonnoHinata]

@@MarkNarrations also, I'm sorry to hear about your aunt. Just got to that part in the video. Praying to whatever might be listening for comfort for you and your family.

[@tegantalks9612]

My pregnancy craving with my oldest was McDonald’s chicken nuggets. My craving with my daughter was water melon. With my last I didn’t have any cravings specific to him but with all 3 at the end of my pregnancy I just wanted to eat ice and I craved Hawkins Cheezies and Dr Pepper lol

[@dustyrose192]

do they crave those foods now

[@tegantalks9612]

@@dustyrose192 well my kids do love McDonald chicken nuggets lol

[@flaminhotyoshi7403]

My pregnancy cravings were mozzarella sticks and Buffalo chicken. Yeah, pretty tame. The pregnancy cravings stories almost always annoy me because the pregnant woman always acts like she has zero control but it’s okay because she’s pregnant and it’s supposed to be cute and quirky

[@CatAstridphe]

Story 1: NTA. Both OP and Marks' joke were fucking funny. I had uncles, twins, that I could never tell apart. When the first one died I said "at least I'll be able to tell them apart now" Then the other one died a handful of years later... I keep getting them mixed up again.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Story 3: You don't get to opt out of the night shift with a newborn. A partner being SAH or Both working A baby is a 24/7 365 second job.

[@Tammohawk1]

1. NTA Beside losing my husband almost 2 yrs ago, in the last 3 yrs. I've lost my home, my dogs, and so many other family members. That person is not OP's friend at all to keep rubbing in the fact that she has so many family members that she has remaining. And sometimes, morbid humor is all you can do. 2. NTA What the heck? Why would you eat something that you know is going to make you sick, regardless of the craving. Half a cake in a sitting? That would make most of anyone sick. I craved raspberry filled donuts my first pregnancy, but I only ate one every once in awhile. I also craved carrots, and ate 2 a day. But they didn't make me sick.

[@amysmith6791]

Story 5- NA. With one side of my family there are 14 cousins so kids were the focus and outnumbered the adults. On the other we sat down, opened a card and were bored out of our skull. Family traditions start for a reason, just because it isn't her way does not make it wrong.

[@jessicaparker2011]

I'm childfree and still expect Xmas to be mostly child based. I have nieces and nephews that deserve to have a fun xmas

[@animatorstanley]

Right!?

[@carterpitbull7366]

It’s actually just sad that he doesn’t let them celebrate at his moms house. I bet kids like going to moms parents way more.

[@ILicoriceProductions]

I developed a morbid sense of humour as a coping mechanism myself. More than once I've gotten comments about spending Mother's or Father's Day with my parents and my first instinct is to always say "Oh, I spend plenty of time with them. Their urns are in the living room." I had to physically restrain myself when a really sweet coworker said something about Father's Day to me because I knew I'd make her feel bad.

[@ettinakitten5047]

Story 2: I had gestational diabetes so there were a lot of pregnancy cravings I had to deny. If OP had the same condition, her behavior would've put both her and her baby's health in serious danger.

[@cheesedemon88]

I always felt it was an unwritten rule, that people with close dead family members get the privilige of making fucked up jokes at their own behest

[@MemristerBoogieDown]

Well said. I had an uncle who ended up shy one head and we (after years of just grief and wtf) make low bridge jokes. It’s a coping mechanism. Hell no it’s not funny not really but if we only focused on the horror of it all we’d go mad. It’s like it puts some kind of buffer between us and the brutal reality of what happened. Morbid maybe but it did help.

[@yandereskitty]

I'm half dead from working 3 days in a row. It is storming here, and I cant feel my legs. But still able to watch Mark before I pass out.

[@CreepyBlueAnimals84]

STORY 1: I laughed at the " There's so much snow we can't dig everyone out of their graves." So much harder than I should have!! That friend sounds like a real pill and I think the joke was an epic burn!! Kudos to you OP. I am also truly sorry for the loss of so many loved ones but happy you have a support system.

[@Val_Benko]

Story 2 - she's eating half a cake at a time??? That's so terrible for her and the baby, plus the ill effects of the vomiting. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's more the quantity of cake that's causing her to vomit

[@SorenPenrose]

I played a really fun game this year: Thanksgiving Roulette! I made a lot of different pan fried hand pies. Apple, blueberry, raspberry, blackberry, etc. I also made a few kinds of empanadas. Then you put them all on the same serving plate! Just make sure you take everyone's allergies into account when you do this. I'm a damn good cook so it doesn't matter which pie you get, it's delicious. Also, pumpkin is delicious. Use a fresh pumpkin for your pie and you can cook the seeds as well.

[@flamin.hot.cheeto]

Story 3: 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩. OP’s significant other needs to run!!

[@elizabethmartin6707]

I’m sorry, grandma doesn’t buy her own grandkids gifts?! I literally buy gifts for a bunch of children that I’m not related to, along with friends, and less than immediate family, and we even do those shoeboxes sent to other countries, and Angel tree donations. I was also given plenty of gifts from non relatives for Christmas growing up. Everyone deserves a gift on Christmas, especially the children.

[@kemonono]

My grandparents don't buy us gifts, neither do aunts, uncles ect. It's not harmed us in anyway, some people be acting like that's blasphemy. I personally think that she is overstepping, she enjoys her way of christmas with her family, I don't see why she would suggest that knowing their traditions?

[@tabathaalshalhoub1653]

For story 5, I’m gonna say op is TAH. When I was a kid (~5-10), we went to my dad’s family for Christmas Day and it was amazing. I didn’t have the greatest childhood and those memories are a blessing. Now, I don’t celebrate Christmas, but I do celebrate Eid. And I came into my husband’s family and I was all set on doing things for kids. Because my husband’s family is a lot like op’s family. They’ll have a bag of candy for each kid, and then tell the kids to go outside and get lost (in a polite way, of course). And it breaks my heart. I mean, that comment about kids not wanting to be around adults made me laugh. I even snorted! Because I’m the only adult who gives the kids attention. And they *eat it up* !!! They always run to me, they talk over each other to talk to me, they always try to get my attention and keep it (even if it’s negative attention!)!! I mean, it makes me sad. Like, I live where 75% of the population is under 30 years old. And these kids are the future!! They need love abs attention and to know people care about them. I’m going off on a rant, sorry. Anyway, having an adults only party that you bring your children to is cruel. When I was a teenager (~14) and my parents divorced, my mom would take me & my brother to a bar to “celebrate” Christmas. Her boyfriend’s mom worked there, they had food, yeah. But it was boring as hell. We had one table people under 21 sat at, we couldn’t play pool, we couldn’t touch anything. It sucked. It was so boring!! It was too dark to read, there were like 4 kids plus me & my brother. It was…. Awful. And selfish. And the first thing about being a parent is that your kids come first.

[@Rowancat11]

I nursed my dad until he died, and nursed my best mate until he died too. This response was *chef's kiss*.

[@jennysmith38]

When I was pregnant, I mainly had cravings for onion rolls, but the onion had to be cooked in butter. One night I craved lobster so bad, but obviously couldn't get any, as it's not something we would have at home, and this was back in the 70's. I was also put on the pill when I was 15 and the doctor had to write a note to my parents, as it gave cravings, those were strange, I wanted smoked oysters, with pickled onions and gherkins on toast, or sardines with pickled onions and gherkins on toast, thankfully, the doctor had to change that pill as I was having some other side effects.

[@BiologicalClock]

Story 4 - Wow, that is rude af. It would be one thing if she had food restrictions, but the entitlement of wanting to bring her own personal cooked meal because she doesn't feel like eating the food available is just ridiculous. Either make an excuse not to go if you're really that burnt out on Thanksgiving food, or suck it up and eat the gift of a warm home-cooked meal. Speaking of, since Mark asked about what we were all eating, I was sick with Covid this Thanksgiving unfortunately, but now that I'm feeling better this Sunday I'll be roasting a brined turkey stuffed with lemon and herbs with butter and herbs tucked under the skin, along with sweet potato praline, roasted brussels sprouts and asparagus, collard greens, cranberry relish, Dutch apple pie, and pumpkin pie with fresh baked pumpkin puree. That should be enough leftovers to keep my roommate and I full for the next week!

[@amandabaker4678]

Sounds delicious - I hope you had a wonderful Sunday Thanksgiving!

[@kerridwynntheacegoblin6465]

I never liked Thanksgiving growing up and neither did my sister; we don’t bother with it in our household or go to relatives’ for it, which they’re fine with. NTA for that story, as the same food can taste very different when someone else makes it. She was missing out on a new experience. As for Christmas, we’re witches and so celebrate Yule on the 21st.

[@LaineyBug2020]

So sorry you had another loss. I know it's not the same as family, but we all love you here!

[@lizfritz6546]

Regarding story 4 - it’s probably just my family, but whether its allergies or preference, we don’t care it someone brings their own meal. Who cares if they don’t want to eat what was made 🤷‍♀️. Most of my family makes their own food anyway once they are old enough or for only a few people because everyone’s tastes are so different besides the main dish like turkey and mashed potatoes. Everything else is in much, much smaller portions, sometimes even made individually. It’s about eating together, not the food itselt

[@SorenPenrose]

Potluck is the way to go. That's what we do. Host makes the entre, guests bring the sides. All food is welcome if anyone wants to bring more. I invented a game this year: Thanksgiving Roulette! I made a bunch of fried hand pies (apple, blueberry, raspberry, blackberry, etc) and several kinds of empanadas. Then we mixed them up and served them all on the same plate.

[@kerribottriell-baxter7345]

Why is this OP still with her if he didn't want kids? GF needs to move on with baby cut loses.

[@SilentDecepticon]

Last story: Wow these people suck. Why would the kids even want to go to an event where they’re treated like unwanted dogs? My family mostly does Christmas stuff for the children, it’s centered around them and for their enjoyment. I doubt we’d do much of anything for the holidays if it was just adults. Not getting them gifts and shutting them in a room is unthinkable.

[@rylashadow18]

Since I got asked: I make a huge breakfast for Christmas morning. Usually with scrambled eggs, bacon, home made hot chocolate with either pancakes, waffles or french toast lol. I make huge plates of food and invite those that are there with me to help themselves if there's enough. One present is opened on Christmas eve/ for Christmas eve too just to get us all ready for the next day lol.

[@MegaGinia]

Radishes. Watching TV, reading a book, anything I was doing, I ate bags of radishes like popcorn! I kept a bag of radishes in my purse so I could eat a couple if I had a craving when I was out and about. The cravings are pretty strong, for sure. ✌️

[@mysterygarde6904]

Story 4: I just want to say it made me sick hearing comments and in a way triggered me, i have cptsd, i have problem about food so i eat nothing or 1 time a day… when i celebrate christmas with my father family i need to take my own dinner with me for myself or else i end up eating nothing… when I hear what this person say i really felt with her, for me it hears like either op left of real reason she didnt want to eat his family food or she have a problem like me about others food… and that she say she wont eat anything at the family it feels like about me, i have a feeling she is having same problem as me… i just want this out there for people thinking about if something is hidden from op or she is afraid of telling how her relationship with others food is.

[@animatorstanley]

You thought pumpkin pie was gonna be nasty!?! Lmfao! It's an American national treasure, to the point we have pumpkin spice everything during autumn. And is you go down south, it's sweet potato pie. Also amazing.

[@laurenspicer3259]

I've never been pregnant, but when I was about 10 years old, my favorite snack was a soft taco shell filled with mustard, and a dill pickle on the side, as well as a can of diet Coke. I was a weird kid.

[@roelthas]

Frankly, both of their Xmas sound bad to me, it's a festivity for the whole family, not just the kids or the adults. Having said that, NAH for me on that story.

[@loganjoh1]

The absolute hypocrisy of the “friend”

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

OMG! I LOVE OPs come back in story 1. Her friend was being a hurtful idiot on purpose.

[@tabathaalshalhoub1653]

For story 2, I think op is NTA. First of all, doesn’t everyone remember Rapunzel?! I mean… Look, pregnancy is different for everyone. And one woman in friends with ate chalk while pregnant. Because she had an obsessive compulsion. Was eating chalk good or heathy?! No! And she went to the doctor, got some iron, and still snuck chalk from time to time. She hated herself for it. And the stress over knowing it was bad and not being able to fully control it almost drove her insane. Eating chocolate cake and puking isn’t going to hurt the baby. I puke 5 times a day for 6 months with my third and she was super healthy (not from chocolate cake, from morning sickness). I think all the YTA are mom shaming her for not being a perfect person. We all know we should eat healthy, we should get enough sleep, we shouldn’t lie. But holding one person to a ridiculous standard and judging them because “well I didn’t experience what you are so it can’t be that bad”. How about we have some empathy. How about we lay off all the YTA. Seriously.

[@alexmarian4642]

This 100%

[@gilesclone]

I wouldn’t say OP is TA. But it sounds like she has an eating disorder, I hope she gets help for that.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

She is absolutely an asshole because she does something that she knows makes her throw up which then forces her husband to clean it up.

[@k.a.4522]

I have always thought that the Yuletide season is about the magic of giving and I think that adults have a right to as much of that magic as children. Especially when many people have had horrible childhoods.

[@jeaniebee3657]

we have our first grandchild this christmas and we are so excited to be able to make it fun for her, she will be 5 months when its christmas and we are planning to have lots of lights in the livingroom and on a tree and make it look amazing for a baby and talking about what we could get her toy wise lol we buy her stuff all the time but we are going strictly fun things for her to get from santa lol . i cant imagine not making christmas fun for her. we have not had decorations in years being empty nesters lol

[@Siinwu]

Well, just like Mark in story 1 i have a bit of morbid humor to. I remember once a few months after my fathers passing someone was at my door asking for him and i told them it wouldn't be possible because he wasn't here anymore. When that didn't sink in (i literally said he passed away this and that date.) I informed them they could try the cemetery, but the 6 feet of dirt in between just might not pass what ever he said down to my farther. This made them red in the face angry and stormed of. XD

[@damien678]

For story 2, I'd like to mention that she could have ADHD (among other things). Our brains are genuinely structured differently, and we have underdeveloped frontal lobes which means we have a harder time with executive functioning skills (side note: this doesn't effect our intellect though), which includes impulsivity control. Because it's caused by how our brains are physically structured, it's so incredibly difficult to stop doing things like eat food we really like. We also have a lack of dopamine in our brains, and actively seek out food that gives us a hit of it, so sugary and carby foods are incredibly addicting to us because of how we're 'chemically wired' to seek dopamine out. Of course we can't know for sure, I kinda just wanted to talk about cool ADHD facts :p I genuinely hope she can find out what the issue is though

[@zerobolt9506]

Yea I know there's foods that make me sick, but love so I can't help but eat them, males since that she might have ADHD

[@annanas9122]

2:24 I mean, what kind of "friend" would ever rub it in their friend's face that they don't have many family members, unlike them? That's just despicable. And oh the hypocrisy! Now they're "uncomfortable" that their friend made a morbid joke, but somehow they are allowed to make their friend uncomfortable with those remarks about how many family members are around! Infuriating.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Story 5: I'm Jewish so I don't have a leg in this fight (and yeah Hanukkah is boring as hell for kids after the novelty of spin the top fades.) But even I think OPs Families way of doing a x-mass is cruel for the children. Grandma and Grandpa send them to the other room and they are ignored for the whole visit, Food is tailored for the adults only, and only MIL and FIL's short list get a gift. Compared to his wife where EVERYONE is accounted for, Food that the majority of guests will like, Gifts for everyone that walked in the door. Yeah it's going to color their kids view of OP's parents and quickly tarnish the magic of the season they are going to start to hate the years that do the holidays with that side of the family.

[@adambartlett114]

Definitely & the way he went after his kid for acknowledging the truth that it is boring (not even that his mom hates them & is vile). Frankly, the kids have every right to tell OP's mom that she is boring (it is she is explicitly excluding them), even the right to say to her vile self they hate her & will never see her again. This isn't just not getting presents for them, it's deliberate malicious attempts to exclude them from their father & family every other Christmas. Even if that garbage bought them loads of gifts but still acted like this, she would still be worthless jerk abusing her kids children. Christmas does not have to all about the kids, just to not be a worthless monster... Heck, if she just bothered to not explicitly exclude them for everything; then she would not be. It's 1 thing to not celebrate Christmas or not be materialistic (obvious bs here, since she buys lots of gifts for people she likes), I've no problem with that; the issue here is that op is letting their parent, abuse OP's kids. I hope wife leaves this jerk & m brevet subjects her kids to her ex or his garbage parent. If this is what's happening & op treats his real family, at Christmas, you can only imagine how bad it is for day to day life. If nothing else, then I hope the kids actually say to both of these jerks faces that they are vile hateful child abusers, the kids all hate them & will never waste another second on their worthless selves again. OP & his parent should be happy then, they can continue pretending that op is still a little kid who never grew up & had his own family.

[@saskia8567]

I highly disagree with all of this. The biggest hell of a Christmas I can imagine is a Christmas with kids screaming their lungs out running everywhere (migraine trigger with certain high pitched screams). When I was young, we were allowed to run, but not in the sitting area. We were alllowed to be loud, but again, not in the sitting area. We could play in the sitting area, just not scream or run with the danger of toppling glasses or snacks. OP's kids do get gifts, but only from their parents, and they opt to open them before leaving. Why not take the gifts with them? Both OP's and the wife's Christmas sound like hell, one is hell for the kids, one is hell for the adults. Wonder how'd she act if he tried making changes to her Christmas. ESH. Christmas is about giving, not just taking, compromise on both ends or not at all.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

@@saskia8567 Because I'd be willing to be MIL said No to the idea of bringing gifts because it will highlight She and Grandpa are not doing gifts for OPs wife and his Siblings SO's.

[@sylvestercat1898]

During Christmas time my cousins (five total, ages 22-15) come to my grandmas house and while the adults get the beds, we get the leather couches that make noise when you twitch and the floor with quilt padding. It’s pretty fun though, especially when my brother keeps on falling asleep with KZbin still playing on his phone lol. On Christmas Eve we stay in the basement (which is 100% haunted, I saw a ghost once when I was seven lol) so we don’t see the last presents being finished, and then when we go up the stairs (where the stockings are, always fun to see them full). Then once everyone wakes up and had breakfast we start with the stockings then we go from oldest to youngest (or the other way) with one present at a time until we’re all done. Then we usually go to the basement to play video games afterwards and eat candy from the stockings.

[@batmansophie484]

The cake story is a hard one. Pregnancy Cravings are no joke. But eating half a chocolate cake knowing your going to throw up is iffy. The husband banning chocolate cake in the house is a bit far. I think ESH

[@emm_uhh]

I'm American but my Welsh side would celebrate boxing day. There were never any other kids so I could bring a friend or the older people I'm my family would always include. At 7 I was having conversations with 70 year olds. Now there all gone but I treasure the memories. Kids don't have to be separate from adults

[@BeWellDoGood]

My friends and I have an ongoing joke that several of the members of our group are a part of the "dead moms club" (yes, I am a member of the club, RIP Mom). If one of our fellow friends who doesnt have a dead mom makes a "your mom" joke at one of the DMC members, we tend to automatically respond with "my mom's dead", deadpan. At this point with our friendships we can generally joke about our losses/dysfunction with good humor. For that first story, it sounds like the OP just has a really shitty friend

[@kaykay8855]

Story 3: YTA. Why didn’t op just left if he didn’t want kids. Op, you’re at home more and its your baby, you should be helping more. She’s working hard, she’s taking care of YOUR baby. If you don’t want to help take care of the baby, do her and the baby a favor and leave her. Story 4: NTA. If she had an allergy or dietary restriction I would have understand her bringing a side dish but she doesn’t. Story 5: slightly YTA because your wife was just making a suggestion and you for not compromising. I don’t know why your mom doesn’t give gifts to her grandkids and shouldn’t be forced to. Christmas should be fun for everyone involved, especially for the kids.

[@micheleosullivan4430]

Pumpkin pie! My husband is from England and I am an American. We did the LD thing over six years and then got married. Our very first meeting after ages of chatting on the net and phone calls was the day before Thanksgiving. The hotel he booked had a huge Thanksgiving buffet (well-known for its holiday buffets) I talked him into trying pumpkin pie. He made a face at just the thought of pumpkin pie. I proudly announce it is one of, if not the favorite pie for him. I moved to the UK and we've been married for nearly ten years this Nov. Every American Thanksgiving it is now a tradition to make pumpkin pie. I've even made him a pie for his birthday instead of cake. :D My in-laws indulge me by joining us for a Thanksgiving meal. We don't do it every year, but I've made it "family day" with all of the Thanksgiving trimmings and turkey.

[@AliceAzemGold]

Christmas in my family has been the same forever. we show up, kid opens stockings then we all take turns opening gifts then eat food. After that we do whatever, kid opens some of their toys, adults watch movies and talk till we go home. Op's Christmas sounds sort of anti-children and honestly I'd say his wife's version sound so much better.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

Why would you take your kids there for the holidays if you know that they're treated like that? I mean it's tradition for their family, but the wife and their kid both hate going there for Christmas. She shouldn't even need to make the suggestion, they should just celebrate in a way that everyones happy instead of going where they're not completely welcome. That's what makes me say YTA for that one.

[@libbythememer9107]

@@untitled-gv3qp It is a NTA for me, and the anti-children one sounds more peaceful to me more then anything. My family just spends Christmas separately more then anything and we rarely act like family 1 and more like family two. I wouldn't want things to change at all. I would not last if I were hearing a bunch of screaming kids running around the place, it's just straight up annoying to me.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

@@libbythememer9107 Yeah, but you're not in the same position as the OP. You're childfree. It's fine for you to celebrate your holidays like that. Someone with small kids doesn't have that luxury. The OP makes his family go there when the kids will be miserable and then won't even let the wife suggest getting the kids presents. I hope your family isn't treating the kids the same as the OPs while having their celebration for the adults. I'm childfree too but I live where my siblings kids always come for the holidays. What I do is come out for a while and then go to my room until things quiet down. It wouldn't be fair to put the kids in a room without presents or food just because I don't wanna be around them.

[@magiv4205]

The OP in the first story is an absolute legend for that answer. The cow deserved it, what a weird hill to die on.

[@oakenshadow6763]

The cake is making you sick. You are endangering yourself and your pregnancy. This isn't about the promise. It's that you are being self destructive. He stayed home for your safty. He is amazing.

[@mossy1476]

Story 4 I find hard. Personally Im autistic, and due to sensory issues and other problems, I am a very picky eater. I always try to eat it if I dont know it, but that brings the risk of getting sensory overload and having a meltdown. So I can sympathise with the gf, I feel there is more to the story then "Ive had it every year". But thats just a feeling I have so that might not be true

[@SheenaReine]

First kid poutine Second kid poutine & tacos only from the real Mexican restaurant or i couldn’t lol

[@glosaint-aime16]

Doesn't matter she has opinion, that's his family traditions and he should give his opinion about her family's traditions too if we want be fair, children don't need to be catered to all the time ... NTA

[@maggpiprime954]

Lol the girl who wants to eat her own Thanksgiving dinner at her bf's family dinner! When my ex & I were dating, we were invited to dinner at their uncle's place to meet him for the first time. My partner said that uncle was asking if there was anything in particular we might request/not like. I replied "naw, I'm okay with anything really; it's not like he's gonna make a beef stew in July, right?" So that's the long story of how we ate the driest beef stew in the history of polite guests.

[@josephinejoseph8922]

Mark,you sound like a real Bajan with those colourful words bring tears to my eyes and bringing all my friends on board😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MsBELLE7]

Story 1; as an orphan with absolutely no family left. If she had said those comments to me before (the wedding party or funeral guests) I would have quit being her friend a long time ago. But I for sure would have said that "to hard to get the bodies due to the snow" comment. Because I can make those jokes about my life. No one else can. I can make jokes at my own expense, not anyone else. It helps me to deal with and make light of my pain and loss. Others making fun of it is not ok.

[@Bajeffrey]

We have it both ways. The kids are sent to the basement after the meal and gifts to play and the adults sit in the dining room to talk. They run back a forth a bit and the house gets loud. Everybody wins

[@GrayTimber]

I went to Thanksgiving with my now husband (we weren't dating at the time) at his family's house a couple of years ago. It was awful because not only am I autistic, and thus have innate dietary restrictions, but I was also suffering an ED at the time as well. Everything on the table was bread and sugar except the turkey. I only had turkey and something else and my husband's dad glared at me and said "what, do you not like wife's cooking?" I was already stressed because his family is so fucking loud and obviously don't like me because I'm autistic, that I just stopped eating My husband did glared back at his dad and told him to cut it out, but I was so upset. I'm usually the type that clears the plate, and if I wasn't suffering an eating disorder at the time I probably would have eaten more We haven't been back at his parents in a long time because of how they treat us. They're homophobic, transphobic, and ableist. If you don't act "normal" (ie how they want you to) then they will chatter nasty about you behind your back. When my husband told his family we were getting married, his mom tried to convince him not to because she doesn't like me. Because I'm "distant" and "too quiet." Trust me, I'm not quiet when I feel safe. I will carry a 1 person conversation if the other person doesn't feel like talking I mean, fuck, they deadname and call me an "it" behind our backs Idk why I'm typing all of this, I guess the Thanksgiving story brought it back to mind :(

[@jocelyneangrignon2856]

My mother lost 3 siblings in 5½ weeks. In Canada we get one day paid compassionate leave for a grand parent, uncle or aunt. When I called the 3rd time I was asked: "don't you think you're exagerating?" I replied " Well I'm certainly not the one killing them." Silence on the line, then hum... ok.

[@peggyseabrun4829]

O.M.G. That clapback is epic. The tears are flowing, I almost died laughing. OP you are legend

[@bellarose-au]

A little over a decade ago, my family had a horrible run. We lost 6 in 5 months. My work was despicable. I lost my beloved grandfather first, which broke my heart. Then a cousin (adopted, not that it matters) and an aunt from the other side. A great aunty, this nearly broke me too. She was my grandmother's sister. In 8 weeks my angel of a grandmother lost her husband of almost 60 years, and her last sibling. I swear I felt her heart break. I felt her start to collapse while I held her as we left her sister's funeral service. My father's mother was next. I had never met or spoken to her (falling out before I was born and she lived on the other side of the world) but I still felt the finality. A kind of hurt that I no longer had the choice to meet her as an adult and decide for myself if I wanted to get to know her. The last was a teen cousin who (wow, I didn't think this one would be the hard one to write) well, he chose a permanent solution to a few teen problems he had. I had 2 days off work. 1 for my grandfather's funeral and the other for my great aunty's. I was refused bereavement leave by my boss I won't go further into why they were so despicable. I shared a very strong bond with both my maternal grandparents. I miss them every day. It gets a little easier to bear the twisting knife of grief with the passage of time. I still have a cry when I get a memory I'm not quite prepared for.

[@TheHellsHobbit]

#5 OP's family are odd, my family all kids get gifts included in games and food is a mix of kid-friendly and adult-friendly

[@animatorstanley]

It's weird his mom won't get gifts for her grandchildren and banishes them to another room. Does she even like her grandchildren?

[@shannonbullock2202]

Someone continuously makes a size comparison between her and OP's family which is insensitive, makes OP uncomfortable and at extremely inappropriate times like a funeral... the only reason they got uncomfortable with OP's joke was bc it pointed out her relentless horrible comparison in the same passive aggressive way. That's the best way to get someone like that to stop bc saying u don't like her comments would just make her defensive. I'd continue to respond exactly the same way until she learns how to control her ugly side.

[@witsend94]

I'm a morbid person. My dad that I barely knew died and my constant statement to make is calling him Daddy Phantom and how he decided he's going ghost.

[@bunnyslippers191]

When my mother died we went with cremation because Dad is buried two states away, so we figured it would be easier to take a small box of remains instead of having to ship a casket. Sis picked up Mom's ashes on her lunch hour, then didn't want to take the ashes into her work (seriously morbid and a real downer for everyone in the place) and she didn't want to leave the plastic bag the little box was in out in plain sight in her car because it looked very like the bags a local very high end jewelry store puts their customer's purchases into and that would be too tempting for any passerby. She didn't want someone breaking a window in her car and stealing Mom. Yes, when they found out what it was they'd throw Mom into the nearest dumpster, but which dumpster? Mom's ashes would be gone and no way could she find which dumpster, so she put the bag into her trunk out of sight the way you do when you are Christmas shopping. Half way home after work she realized she had forgotten to get the bag out of the trunk and there she was driving along with Mom in the trunk! She was horrified at how disrespectful that was, then it hit her as funny AF and she started laughing so hard she could hardly drive. She could barely tell me about it for laughing and I howled with laughter, too. I pointed out if she had gotten into a traffic accident and was badly hurt or even killed it would have been Mom taking her revenge for being made to ride in the trunk. That set us both off laughing again. That didn't happen, so we figured Mom was OK with the trunk ride. All my friends thought it was hilarious as well. Humor is a way to cope, but, seriously it was really funny, at least to us with our sort of twisted sense of humor. I still get a giggle out of it over ten years later.