“Optimal” Bodybuilders Are RUINING Fitness 🤡🤓

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In this video, Martin Rios discusses why Optimal Bodybuilders, such as Mike Israetel of Renaissance Periodization, are ruining the fitness industry and ruining your progress towards an athletic and aesthetic physique. In this video, Martin Rios discusses the overuse of lifting equipment, how intense you should train, the best exercises to build muscle, and the best ROM to build muscle. Martin Rios explains why optimal bodybuilders are ruining your bodybuilding and gym progress and what you can do to stop this.
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[@jasxnn8557]

I’m so optimal that I watched this video sitting down with a belt, knee sleeves, wrist straps, and 3 spotters

[@nhlhockey3390]

😂😂

[@Sebo994]

And squat shoes

[@ultimatecompilations5393]

Just making sure, but were you sitting on an incline bench?

[@jasxnn8557]

@@ultimatecompilations5393 using an incline bench WHILE on a cable machine

[@PizzaRoll_26]

This is why Leon Edwards has the most aesthetic physique in the universe

[@rfactorgo39]

Absolutely agree with you. I changed my training completely from stupid bodybuilder traning to athletic/functional bodybuilding by prioritising workout that engage my core, ditched all the stupid machines and focused on my overall strength particularly the core strength. As I play soccer I noticed increase in my speed, stability, ability to change directions, shot speed since all those come from core strength

[@cairofarfan5654]

i did the exact same thing i high key agree on most the stuff he says

[@jusCash]

Pair that up with plyo's will explode your speed and explosiveness

[@MasterSword0001]

@rfactorgo39, That is insane🤯

[@Youngster543210]

I noticed all those things using almost exclusively machines 👌. Turns out "stability" is just a skill specific to whatever activity it is you practice, not a general adaptation that you develop from performing unstable exercises. It's almost like we've known this for half a century 🙄

[@vivektripathi3238]

@@Youngster543210 BUT You can do a general adaptation from doing unstable exercises. For the ppl who dont really do any sports

[@talkingshounen14]

Rate my Top 10 favorite Exercises (no particular order) 1. Barbell Squat 2. Deadlift 3. Overhead Press 4. Split Squat 5. Lateral Raises 6. Pull Ups 7. Tricep Extension 8. Barbell Curl 9. Farmer Carries 10. Bench Press

[@rasil_vxbs9256]

lat raises is crazy, they boring asf

[@talkingshounen14]

@@rasil_vxbs9256 They’re good for development of the Mid delts

[@Han-nk3io]

@@talkingshounen14 But you don't have to do it. Weightlifers got crazy mid delts from BTN Press and push presses.

[@fabio_0]

🐐

[@SsOeMAaIcRG-zl8xu]

Woah,I also do these as well 🤯

[@browniex5120]

I gotta say, after watching this guy for months, I originally didn’t like his style and opinion on bodybuilding, but after a while, I finally see a huge problem in the community. It’s time to make fitness better... 🔥

[@elbibokoning7889]

Relatable

[@bsbaseball1366]

He’s still just an annoyance dude. He hates on some of the most well respected names in fitness for no reason and is beyond hypocritical

[@karthiks6394]

This guy is the best. These so called well respected names in the fitness influencers like sulek, noel etc r actually promoting a very unhealthy life style. Like them claiming that they don't lift weights for girls and they do it for themselves is very worrying. Like wtf that mean? u look like a hideous monster who is unhealthy, who's unattractive a, who will probably d*e by the age if 50 and u r claiming u do it for self improvement?cope harder. They all suck.

[@naturalgains4229]

You got brainwashed lol but most fitness influencers are clueless, including this one

[@ivaselinemyween]

@@bsbaseball1366found the unathletic straps user

[@revert5651]

Thats why Daniel Cormier has the most aesthetic O-taper.

[@User-xw6kd]

O-taper 😂😂

[@OfficialZayFlowers]

Starts: 00:00 Ends: 24:03

[@zeyroxbs]

Wow thank you

[@revert5651]

Thank you, this comment completely changed my life.

[@fabio_0]

Thanks G. I was looking for this one

[@egon8947]

legend

[@Aguy-gy3qz]

No way really

[@rdwhtbluEagl]

Really has changed my training style, has improved my sports a lot, has found myself stronger, and has better muscle endurance. I've never felt better and I even picked up a new sport which I was ready good at already because I was training athletically which made me more athletic. Thank you Rios brothers.

[@Dejan27]

Hope it goes viral Edit: about full ROM, I personally do every exercise with the fullest ROM. So yes, full ROM is important in terms of elasticity of the muscles, which I also train by stretching the trained muscles immediatly after every training session.

[@astariaj4520]

This is why Martin Rios is the most humble person in the entire solar system

[@User-xw6kd]

*Leon Edwards

[@astariaj4520]

@@User-xw6kd *Martin Edwards

[@calgofitness4299]

Martin your absolutely right and I can definitely relate from following most bodybuilders logic. Now I’ve changed up my training to be athletic and with more cardio and plyometric training along with weights.

[@adamlucina]

I actually disagree on limiting factors. If you spam lot of freeweight heavy exercises, your lower back will become overtrained much quicker than the other bodyparts bcz almost every compound is lowerback/core + a respective muscle group. Not going balls deep on every freeweight/barbell exercise is probably a good idea bcz if your lower back is fatigued af, you cant even use those compound movements to build muscle effectively bcz your lower back is gonna fatigue before the targte muscle group. I personally do all the freeweight stuff (bench, OHP, barbell row, deadlift) except from barbell squat which I swap for hacksquat. When I barbell squatted my lower back always felt tired af bcz I essentially had lower back day every day due to spamming too much compouinds at high weight.

[@bds9203]

If your lower back can handle deadlifts, your lower back can handle squats, if you are experiencing back pain also, lower the damn weight and stop ego lifting

[@adamlucina]

@@bds9203 think you didnt read my comment and still replied xD? this is a frequency/volume thing nothing to do with weight. Why would I train exercises that tax lower back 6x a week. You don't train back 6x a week to get good results, rest is where the muscle grows. Suggests you don't leave your brain on a nightstand before you go about your day.

[@bds9203]

@@adamlucina I was not trying to be agressive but I did read the whole thing, you don’t even know what you commented, on the last sentence you said “I essentially had lower back day every day due to spamming too much compouinds at high weight” this is how I read your whole comment and why you should back squat but do it with lighter weight that you can control

[@justjoshingyou0]

@@bds9203not everything is a byproduct of “ego lifting” lol…

[@laviljoski6952]

Yeah hateing on straps makes no sense

[@wan2shuffle]

Glad to see the Rios brothers influence on the fitness community is finally subsiding.

[@toke7342]

What do you mean? They are right.

[@justjoshingyou0]

@@toke7342about what?

[@goleirobrunomgtow]

Bro calls them nerds for saying some tips are better for hypertrophy based on studies and right after compares studies to support that free weights are better than machines

[@Ueiwbwowheoeho]

Cuz it was talking about machines ?

[@goleirobrunomgtow]

@@Ueiwbwowheoeho it was talking about machines who?

[@SupaSneech]

Top 10 exercises (no order #1 Pull ups #2 Bench press #3 Planche #4 Front lever #5 Dips #6 Barbel Squat #7 Military press #8 Deadlift #9 Standing Bicep curl(explode then hold at the top 3 to 6 reps per set) #10 Deadhang (I do variations of each exercise like rdls or wide grip pull ups)

[@fastcars514]

Missing a peg exercise, lunge

[@justjoshingyou0]

front lever planche and dead hangs, and also no hinge lol… go do some rdls bro

[@simplyarchie3258]

Hey martin, id like to point out that stretch media hypertrophy is not necessarily overstretching the muslce, but rather making sure to stretch the muscle at the bottom position; by this i mean to slow down the eccentric and get a good stretch at the bottom rather than going down more than neccesary, while some bodybuilders are advocates for overstretching the muscle most people like me are talking about controlling the eccentric and getting a good stretch. No hate, i respect your training philosophy and you make a lot of good points just wanted to clarify.

[@tissuebox12]

Look at his buzzwords "ultimate athletic bodybuilding program" 😂😂 what a joke.

[@Modelta]

this is why mario rios and his brother luigi rios are the best fitness influencers

[@petruradu7242]

Trusting the information provided by those optimal bodybuilders said about full ROM without actually searching for those not so legit articles raised some questions now, thanks for actually stating the facts

[@juljalala]

Good info, but you are not looking into grey áreas. Compound exercises should be everyone's basis for strength and muscle growth. However, when you want to get you strenght to new levels, isolation exercises are important to strengthen weak links. When you are focusing on maximizing strength and hypertrophy on a weak link, stability is key and finding ways to isolate as much as possible is a good strategy. Regarding the lengthen position of the squat, the study only refers to quad growth. The lengthen position also helps maximize glute and abductor strength and hypertrophy.

[@vishwwaspatil]

Hey Martin! Can you make a detailed video to cure Knee Valgus aka Knock Knees? Will be hella grateful if you made one!

[@rishi6942]

I have to say after watching your vids and Mario's vids, I've started to do more exercises standing up/demands the core more. For example, I was doing seated bicep curls now switched to standing ones, same for overhead presses and other exercises. I never really used belts for lifting from the beginning even for deadlifts and squats. Some buddies of mine are Stoopid(I still love my homies) don't do deadlifts cuz "it will injure their lower backs". I'm still trying to convince them lmao🤣.

[@novario_4221]

Dude you need to clean your apartment, a clean background is optimal for an atheltic aesthetic video

[@peachtroll]

lol word up

[@denmark8169]

yo Martin great video btw i would ask if you could do a vid or a short on improving ankle mobility. Because i cant squat to 90 degrees without my heels elevated on a plate and im trying to improve it. i dont know if it is ankle mobility thats the issue or if it is something else and if it is i would like to know what it is and how to improve it. i am quite new to the gym and i have squatted a lot but without the plate, my feet and form just breaks down mid squat. this is an issue for me, and probably for others too. Great video and thanks for the helpfuul content (:

[@MelinaElvira]

Do a vid on elbow and tricep tendinitis. I think a lot of people who workout suffer from one or the two(including me) and it would help others to prevent this injury as it is annoying to deal with. Thanks in advance

[@xaviermonje6956]

Actually dumbbells and free weights rock beacuse you build a great body without many expensive nor fancy equipments/machines😎 I changed to free weights and my athleticism and strength skyrocketed.Moreover I'm less injury prone 😊 thanks Martin

[@louisewebb9449]

Martin is a legend. Definitely recommend their program :)

[@louisewebb9449]

By the way I think Martin is B

[@bobdunn7003]

How do bodybuilders complain and speak negatively about free weight exercises, then when you look at their "motivation" compilations, it's filled with Ronnie Coleman? The best bodybuilder of all time built his physique with heavy bent over rows, squats, deadlift, and barbell bench press. I've even seen videos of Jay Cutler training with very heavy overhead presses and RDL's.

[@justjoshingyou0]

dr mike ohp’d 2 plates for reps… lazy bodybuilders my ass…

[@raphaeldeschamps8987]

Raw squat< Seated smith machine squat with knee sleeves, squat shoes, lifting belt, knee sleeves(to limits the limiting factor),elbows sleeves wrist straps and dont forget lifting strap, because grip strengh is a limiting factors.

[@VanjaBatarelo]

As a teenage lifter who never used wrist straps,belt,knee sleeves,elhow sleeves and everytime i got an injury,instead of just ignoring it and using all this stuff i use my brain and take some rest off or lower the weight by half(i also never used smith machine)

[@connorbetancourt5605]

Using Stretch mediated hypertrophy gives you a more athletically functional exercise for strength but its hard to see if full range of motion builds more muscle mass for bodybuilders. Throughout this whole video you compare bodybuilding to athletic development witch both have different goals, although I agree that the way you teach is best for athletes its not necessary better for bodybuilders who don't care about functionality

[@m4fi950]

Martin i stopped training for sometime but i did sprinting alot 6-8 seconds, i noticed that my explosiveness and anaerobic endurance skyrocketed

[@jimboi9517]

They are trying to look good for a bodybuilding stage not everyone wants to be as athletic as u bru💀

[@ErykSzczypta]

4:45 most humble rios alive😂

[@zee4125]

18:24 This reminds me of an old video by Pete Rubish where he said he found that low bar squats (just below parallel) grew his quads more than ATG high bar squats. He reckoned this happened simply because low bar allowed him to use far heavier weight.

[@thiagomotta777]

i live in a small town with only one gym. it only has two lat pulldowns and a cable machine, but lots of bars, dumbbells and weights. i used to feel bad about this cause my friends who dont live in my town have gyms with lots of machines. you and your brother really changed how i see fitness and my training goals. im grateful for being forced to do lots of free weight movements. next month im moving to a city. gonna keep training with free weights even if my new gym has lots of machines. thanks

[@Han-nk3io]

I have been to the gym for 4 years. And i barely use machine these days. Back in the old days people were building big and strong physique without machine.

[@IzlandaWind]

Hey, I've been a fan for a while of both you and mario and was wondering that what do you think about cables? I rarely ever seen them being talked about but I think they're amazing

[@NaqiAli]

I’ve never seen abs in my life while being skinny fat, i’ve been now training with core engaged for my whole training, and now, at my fattest in a bulk i’m seeing abs, crazy.

[@Zydn5]

same

[@ThehollyJesus041]

Are you being sarcastic or serious

[@destiny069]

​@ThehollyJesus041 probably serious. It's the same for me, I do alot of compound exercises and abs are coming out while I'm bulking rn

[@NaqiAli]

im being fr@@ThehollyJesus041

[@ReverseKadz]

​look at eddie hall, fat with abs@@ThehollyJesus041

[@blair2050]

This entire video is just strawmans (Outside of the standing vs sitting argument)

[@anthonyaraujo9919]

Good job, Rios twins, perfectly executed it had to be said

[@Quinten154]

I love these videos 😊

[@blackflagbfr2999]

Fax I always start my workouts with Squats , deadlifts and bench without belts followed by a body weight workout like dips, pullups or pistol squats

[@zeyadmosharraf3514]

btw is it ok to use lifting wraps cos my wrist isn't firm and benching heavy loads gets difficult without lifting wraps

[@kraken2968]

Yo Martin, I like you and your brothers content. I am now training my self in an athletic format. But can I ask you something. Could you please make a video that focusses on Basketballplayers. I play basketball myself and want to go d1 someday. Which movements shoud I prioritize? How can I jump higher? Etc. Anyway, thanks for making fitness great again.

[@yungkage1693]

Try to search knees over toes guy. He has some good vids for baskebtall.

[@nf4119]

I disagree with the idea of always standing up to engage your core. I would rather do seated shoulder press and burn them out entirely and do a separate core exercise. Is this really such a bad idea? - it’s not as though I play hardcore sports outside of the gym anyway

[@user-qw6im8dv2j]

Nice vid

[@darko.tasev.]

Why you need super strong core for your daily activities? If you aren't a proffesional athlete than is no real reason to do all of your exercises standing and in a less stabile way, just to make it more "athletic". If you do squats, some version of deadlifts and barbell bent rows, there is probably enaugh core activation for a normall person who's not an athlete to live the best quality life and for the "daily activites". At that point you don't have any addional benefits to do cable rows standing or some similar nonsense. Just sit down and do it proper way with maximal stability. Most of the newbies in a gym have a goal to look easteticly more pleasing and simply have more muscle not to have the strongest core possible. So you may not doing fitness "great again" if you ask a majority of regular gym goers. And there is no such thing as funkcional and not funkcional exercises. If you have stronger quads because of doing hack squats I think this will help you in a real life, so that exercise is pretty funkcional isn"t it?

[@Han-nk3io]

Super strong core = less limiting factor and less likely to get injured.

[@darko.tasev.]

@@Han-nk3io working your lateral delts or biceps curls standing wont make your core any stronger. Meybe it will if this is only thing what you're doing in a gym, but if you do squats and deadlifts than it will not make any additional difference, but what it will happen - is gonna make an exercise worse for biceps or lateral delts. And in life outside gym it will not decrease chances of injury in any noticable manner.

[@user-co6qb1rn2x]

Hey i have a question so I’m a baseball player and I mean I care about aesthetics but like my main goal is to be good at baseball. In the professional sport guys are hitting 450 foot bombs left and right. Swinging a bat is not one of the basic movements of the body so does this “athletic bodybuilding” still apply to baseball, granted that most of these guys are benching like 315?

[@MartinRiosFit]

Yes as you are building your legs and hips and other muscles that play a role in rotation but I would include a larger rotational power aspect to your programs.

[@davidortega7991]

Hey man, I played collegiate baseball at a very competitive juco and I gotta say if your main goal is to be good at baseball, then practice baseball. In no way am I against lifting or getting stronger because I am a huge advocate for it and do it myself not only to be better at sports, but for overall health and fitness in the long run. But, lifting exercises aren’t going to make you better at baseball. If anything, being stronger may help your ability to perform athletic movements with safety, but your skill level itself is mostly dependent on specific practice to baseball

[@Timedesigner]

The irony of this critique shows how great your lack of self awareness is. You and Mario push your own kind of ‘optimal’ training except you call it ‘athletic bodybuilding’, which is fundamentally the same thing as ‘optimal’ training. The whole premise of ‘athletic bodybuilding’ is that if you do anything except for standing free weight exercises then you aren’t ‘optimal’, or as you would say not ‘functional’, not ‘athletic’, or ‘lazy’.

[@Han-nk3io]

But optimal for what? Optimal for bodybuilding is different than optimal powerlifting.

[@Timedesigner]

@@Han-nk3io ‘Optimal’ doesn’t really mean anything it’s just a fitness fad. Old school bodybuilders trained in a way hypertrophycels would call ‘sub-optimal’ and yet they still had impressive physiques and strength.

[@nabrut5968]

Mario, with what compound lift i could replace leg extensions. Already doing squats

[@Lord_Nathaniel_Ashworth]

8:14 damn bro your forarms are 🔥 and the veins too 🔥🔥

[@NotAnAltF]

Hey Martin I’m a big fan but I have a left club foot and can’t get full ankle mobility. Whenever I squat I tend to fall forward and can’t do much weight. Should I still squat or would it be okay for my to use something more stable such as the hack squat?

[@user-mp3lt9ib8d]

You can do box squats, and you probably should, so that you keep progressing and eventually u get to do Real squats

[@NotAnAltF]

@@user-mp3lt9ib8d I’ll definitely try this my next leg day thank you

[@kamranhussain3159]

I think another thing about 'optimal' is that optimal can be very different from person to person.

[@Strikehardkarate]

1. Bench press 2. Incline press 3. Overhead press 4. Dips 5. Farmer Carrie’s 6. Chin-ups 7. Barbell rows 8. Squats 9. Trap bar deadlift 10. Lateral raises

[@osbellgarcia7065]

I'm studying for being a trainer, free weights train stabiliser muscle and make your core stronger and also, this muscles need to be stronger because you can have a chance of injury and pain in other areas. I seen people having injury doing overhead press en benchs. I agree with everything you say, also everyone is jumping to social media to give advice when they don't have any studies or true knowledge. It's a shame.

[@gistl5880]

does anyone have the studies he providied via link?

[@whiskey_jr]

5:29 love it when Martin was being this serious

[@major253kannon]

As a half qualified physiotherapist, you shoulder fix your misaligned shoulder before posting chin ups clips.

[@naturalgains4229]

That’s why you simply train the abs, obliques, and lower back with machines instead of hoping they get indirectly trained enough from compound movements. Training a muscle directly will ALWAYS make it bigger and stronger than letting a compound simply involve it especially when it comes to the “core”. Not saying machines are better, they’re just more efficient at hitting muscles you want to strengthen and grow. All forms of resistance training give equal results if they are taken close to or to failure when it comes to muscle and strength.

[@irradiatedbloodbath]

I agree to make those muscles bigger you should train them like other muscles, but his point in engaging them in other lifts is for stability not hypertrophy i think

[@naturalgains4229]

@@irradiatedbloodbaththe thing is though, stability is fitness influencer BS. Your shoulder is stabilizing your arm while you use your phone. When you do pushups your “core” stabilizes you. Nobody does pushups to strengthen the abs or lower back though, even if they’re involved. Stabilizing means other muscles hold your main muscles in place so they main muscle can do the work, you’re not doing anything to the stabilizer muscles this way. They may get SLIGHTLY and I mean slightly indirectly targeted but that isn’t good enough and to actually strengthen and grow them you need to directly hit them.

[@irradiatedbloodbath]

@@naturalgains4229 yeah i agree, for my sport i usually train stuff like anti-rotational core stability separate rather than hoping it’s engaged in other lifts, this guy used to say to train the abs directly with weight for hypertrophy but kinda changed to saying you only need compound lifts

[@KingE34]

I use squat shoes but I stretch everyday and I will eventually stop using them when I can and the only equipment I use is a belt for 1-3 reps on squats or deadlifts. U think that’s fine?

[@MartinRiosFit]

Yes that’s fine, I think you can make a case if you’re going over 85 percent of 1 RM

[@jeovanniperez3949]

@@MartinRiosFit u should debate Dr. Mike he has a doctors degree in exercise science meanwhile you only have a bachelor’s degree ☠️ and he also does Brazilian jiu jitsu so he can easily fight both you and your brother cus I guarantee your ground game is sub par MMA isn’t all about striking only

[@yexle4654]

Fucking love you man. Saved me from the body building matrix

[@the_bloodraptors1029]

Making fitness great again baby

[@orionbekesi]

I literally only trained squat/bench/deadlift and occasionally threw in shoulder exercises, but not those stupid machine/isolation/sitting variations. And if I would've done shit 'optimally' I bet there would be no difference in my physique, but there would be in my kickboxing.

[@vihang6675]

Can you send me this study links I also want to study.

[@Lucky-lp8do]

this is why you should wear a belt during ab exercises to prevent the core from being a limiting factor /j

[@spacious9844]

Can you do a guide on an HITT program please?

[@zachxavierpatatag8393]

bro had imbalanced grip width with the incline 😂 i had the same problems with it thank god im not alone. btw i do barbell OHP and barbell OHP is freaking GODLY i had struggles in the concentric part of the movement it felt unstable specially to my left delt like it doesnt had fluidity to begin with. may i ask what I did wrong ? thank you.

[@Curry30Kobe]

Genuinely wondering why it’s the haters that comment on the people they hate the most like if you hate him that bad why do comment on his videos

[@PRDGL_WindyBW]

I don't know why brickhead bodybuilders so vehemently oppose core engagement. You're only as strong as your core since you draw your strength from your core.

[@character_edit]

I remember in primary school PE we didnt do no basketball and not a lot of fun stuff

[@henritreimann6622]

Very underrated video

[@FredRibeiro15]

it is true that most bodybuilders are optimal and afraid of a barbell but when is the think they enjoy doing and do that as their career I dont blame them, BUT is still better than doing nothing all day. Martin whats your opinion on strongman like Eddie Hall? Sorry for a bad english is my second lenguage

[@Han-nk3io]

Eddie Hall is strong but be honest he is fat and unhealthy.

[@J-wu8nv]

I’ve seen athletes use machines before. Jordan Burroughs, an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling, uses a machine to work his back since that’s an important muscle group for wrestling. I’ve seen some Sprinters use smith machines and lying leg curl machines. Even your boy Leon Edwards did dumbbell rows lying on a bench in a men’s health video. Sure a lot of athletes mainly do movements standing up and prefer free weights over machines, but it’s not like they stay away from them as a whole

[@vivektripathi3238]

bro its Ok for them but all fighters ESPECIALLY wrestlers have soooo much back Usage in their sports , they are constantly using their spinal erectors. SO when they do machines , its different than us. They also do Heavy ass abs stability workout so its evens everything out. for normal ppl , martin is correct

[@poikka9521]

i agree, but you dont gotta diss em so hard

[@DanielPlaysBlox]

Im glad this guy exist, You really help me learn from this videos

[@Leonedwardsthegoat]

What position did Mario play in soccer

[@addesteffansson7642]

Can you do a video about a workout for footballers/soccer player

[@kabs255]

you should make an anime physique tier list.

[@JTB_7425]

Bro fr went gawkgawk on the mic 7:09

[@titanmaximum239]

It's almost as if they are training specifically for hypertrophy.

[@dog-yk1wh]

goated vid

[@loganwolv3393]

I mean, unlike some people i do value functional training quite a bit, but still this argument "free weights are better than machines because core engagement" is well not so valid because well there are ab crunch machines that do a far better job at targeting the abs, and even rotator machines that target the obliques. So really it heavily depends on the invidivdual and the machines wich is better, but one unique advantage that applies to many people of free weights is that they tend to target more muscles at once wich makes them more effective if you're triyng to save time by hitting more muscles at once. And why are you roasting people giving tips to make exercies better for hypertrophy? They're litterarely helping people achive their goals, so what's your problem bro? And if you're wondering yes i am using some free weight exercies for functional purposes but i also use machines because yeah in a lot of times at least for me they are better for hypertrophy, especially the cables.

[@mitchellcotton7346]

Bro, you're attacking guys who are training for hypertrophy, for trying to optimise their training for hypertrophy. That's like Cbum coming out and making a video criticising you for trying to optimise you're training for athleticism. Except for the fact that Cbum is actually respected in his field. Also, there's a couple of issues with the study you cite against full ROM (And how you use it) A) Half/Quarter squats in this instance would be the final range of motion, so shown to be less effective than deep partial squats. This article also supports stretch-mediated hypertrophy, so you can't really say somethings inconclusive considering the whole evidence base, but then cherry pick a study from within that evidence base to make a point. As far as machines and whether or not they are better for hypertrophy, the studies that suggest they are equal train the subjects at the same distance from failure. The reason "Optimal Bodybuilders" tend to advocate for machines is that you can get closer to failure safer/easier. And lastly, as always your misrepresenting your "targets" and what they value in their training. You can't really go out their and call KneesOverToesGuy and Garage Strength "Optimal Bodybuilders" The first one has a similar philosophy to you in terms of valuing exercise as a way to improve longevity snd function, and the second one is an S&C coach eith multiple Olympic and professional athletes in his programs. He advocates squat shoes cause some people don't necessarily have the ankle mobility to squat safely without out them. Squatting (especially heavy or deep squatting) is only ever a general preparation exercise. You're better off adjusting the movement to see the benefits than trying to exactly replicate the desired end product movement in the name of specificity.

[@staystrong4309]

He hates people for doing or saying stuff he disagrees with. He talks about bodybuilding as if its bad because its unathletic when thats not the fucking point of bodybuilding. Noone cares about athleticism in weightlifting gyms. And saying your the most humble person in the solar systen is one of the least humble things to say out of anyone in this solar system. And if someone hurts his ego, he insults them.

[@justjoshingyou0]

finally someone gets it… dude will critique a hypertrophy workout on its athletic carryover to fucking basketball… both brothers are jokes lol

[@tenj1101]

W vid bro

[@technicalshiva1]

Fantastic

[@divinity1495]

Great video but honestly couldve ended the video after making the point that optimal bodybuilders weren't atheletic when they were younger It literally makes too much sense if youre someone that has been playing sport or does combat youd never make these adjustments considering prior knowledge trasnferred

[@SamuelHove]

Keep preaching Martin

[@plutonicyotobe9996]

Lifting straps on leg machines are diffrent level of optimal

[@brappzannigan9565]

You complain about "limiting factors" as nonsense but you literally wear versa gripps/wrist straps... which help remove the limiting factor of a weaker grip compared to the large back muscles.

[@erenyeager4049]

They have already said that you can use these things occasionally or when you are going over 80% of your one rep max.

[@ns-ds4sp]

A takewondo black belt calling people nerds🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jakob-uc2kg]

Chill he was a child, now he’s boxing

[@jeovanniperez3949]

@@Jakob-uc2kg still has no ground game ☠️

[@ns-ds4sp]

​@Jakob-uc2kg boys we found this twinks sugar daddy

[@jerma985_enjoyer4]

​@@Jakob-uc2kghe doesnt even accept fighting offers

[@saulgoodman2071]

That is why my grandma fell down the stairs and is currently in the ER

[@Dom_1130]

There’s a reason Eddie Hall trains raw. It made having all those crutches on during competition that much easier. Simple as that

[@poketron77]

It's almost like some workout variations are more effective than others and trying to be optimal. Not everyone wants to be like Leon my guy, these dudes are doing smth different. The only cardio you get is with Leon in the sheets, and if I'm being honest Leon's physique is not that impressive however Leon isn't training for that so I shouldn't criticize him for it.

[@jacobi-vision3249]

You’ve gotta look at the natty nobles: Alex Leónidas, Bald Omni man, Geoffrey Verity Schofield, and Natural hypertrophy. Big difference from other guys. Sean and Dr Mike are still legends idc

[@nikolaynikolov4279]

Great 25 minute reason why I need to give you 100 bucks

[@GAMERsHUb888]

This is why Leon Edwards has the most aesthetic physique in the Black Hole🥶🥶🥶

[@nitetroglidite315]

“Limiting factor” yeah like their brain 🤣

[@cruor_is]

i want to se you going to failure for 4 sets of squats

[@paradiselosing]

@milo wolf needs to see this vid 😂