MatPat's Secret: The Lost Game Theory Shows

[@TheGamerFromMars]

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[@pepe_de_phroog2.033]

Me poor

[@supho3309]

Ok

[@jackorion7157]

Matpat

[@AxelEpicGamerMoments]

My religion is ridge wallets.

[@ThatEmeraldGuy02]

Pepe_De_ Phroog2.0 same

[@GaijinGoombah]

7:53 You know, you could have just asked. All these questions you couldn't find answers to about me aren't anything secretive or taboo. 😆 I used a voice modulator because I was afraid of getting hate from people because I said nice things about cultures *cough Middle East cough* that a lot of people didn't like. I wanted to work in a character rather than myself but I didn't have a great understanding of sound design at the time. Thus the cringe. Also, working in character allows me to have some CRAZY fun with editing. Something I'm considering going back to now that I DO have an idea of how sound design works. I split with the Game Theorists because the difference in viewership you mentioned was goofing the algorithm and hurting myself and Mat. When the system didn't punish subsequent videos for performance, it worked. When that changed, we had to change. It wasn't anything personal, it really was just due to changes in the system. It's just the ever-evolving landscape of KZbin. Nothing more really. I still do what I love with enough people who like it I can still make a living. So, no worries!

[@SomeRandoo]

Bruh

[@commentarycentral538]

Aye what’s up

[@wartrix6046]

@犬のふしだらな女 this man is a genius

[@finchy351]

Dammm no hot tea huh

[@REIN900]

OMG I LOVE YOUR WORK

[@catholiccontriversy]

Game Lab failed because it was a KZbin red series. Like, KZbin doesn't understand that people don't want their joke of a premium service, otherwise they wouldn't ask me every time I open a video.

[@LowReedExpert1]

Not to mention it had already been done years ago..

[@KyleHarrisonRedacted]

*sweats in 2yr premium annivesary**

[@chrishansen1842]

@@KyleHarrisonRedacted I think it's fine if you have it as long as you can afford to I dumped a lot of money into it overtime kinda just so I could listen to music with my phone off but eventually it wasn't worth it anymore

[@ari_wastaken]

Isn't youtube red dead?

[@JaggedBird]

@@LowReedExpert1 ah yes, the old KZbin networks.. Heh, boy was that a nightmare...

[@ehjaybee85]

Ronnie is sorely missed, his fingerprints are all over the best parts of GT.

[@Kabodanki]

GT good ? lol okay

[@mysticnugget8072]

Anger

[@adri.c4]

Rest In Peace Ronnie 😔

[@theinstitutephil2300]

I'm glad that matpat wanted any money ronnie made to his family

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

Wasnt Ronnie abusive to fans at cons?

[@CloaksCosplays]

Don’t forget when he recruited Austin. Austin did content on his own channel about the real life science of a lot of things in video games, and when MattPatt hired him, Austin took over the “science” episodes of Game Theory while MP switched solely to lore.

[@Mystic-Midnight]

When gt got taken over by fnaf I stopped enjoying it as much as before cause I loved the STEM GT

[@sgticecoldwater]

Is Austin still making content for GT or has he moved on?

[@mudkipmuddip5944]

@@sgticecoldwater yes, he’s still making content on GT he’s last video was 2 weeks ago

[@winters_revolt]

Last I check, Game Theory still has theories based in science. Just a different type of science. And I checked pretty recently.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Before that, Austin single handedly killed Shoddy Cast, I still refuse to watch his videos.

[@Lucario1121]

Never knew Game Theory had such a huge cinematic universe.

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGAAGAG this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy again because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT videos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear mecha

[@damb3151]

@@AxxLAfriku what the hell

[@mrhappycatfish87104]

I would like to call it the "gtu"

[@ayyyayay]

@@AxxLAfriku oh shit you comment here too wazzup axxl

[@notme8652]

@@AxxLAfriku this, this Scares me

[@samlee5549]

God I remember all of these, this is so weird. Digressing and Sidequesting was so cool, and I wish they’d kept more of these. I never knew some of these were deleted from the channel. In fact, I don’t think I ever really noticed they left. This is a great video!

[@aidanquiett668]

D&S was my favorite part of Game theory in the early days. That and their old editing style (with the chibi characters and less focus on random cutaway jokes) will always be missed by me, even if I still enjoy their stuff today

[@Liggliluff]

It's sad when creators delete or hide the videos. It's still good videos giving them views. It's sad to not be able to watch these old videos no more.

[@jstmist]

I remember first finding game theory. I used to only watch the Game Theory ones with Matpat and I would get mad when it would say they uploaded and it was someone else other than Matpat. Then I watched one. They were great and I miss them but the new game theory are still amazing and I dont think I will stop watching :) sorry for the paragraph

[@cpMetis]

It feels weird having been on KZbin for so long. I've been watching Game Theory since about a week after the Chrono Trigger episode came out. I started watching Etho's Minecraft LP shortly after he released episode 2. I started watching KZbin regularly when SeaNanners was the big dog making CoD commentaries. Then stuff like this comes out, or I watch a video like "hey, did you ever hear of this guy called 'Seananners'?", or most recently, "Did you know there was a big Minecraft SMP server before Hermitcraft called *Mindcrack*? Let's talk about *ancient history*!" Then I turn into dust.

[@NewtonRPG]

I remember one of the few episodes of Smash History being privated: the episode on Ryu.

[@mh_a.d.]

family man or american guy are way better

[@arwinorso]

People can like different things y'know..

[@CancerEditioniscool23]

Anime is for dweebs, watch Family Guy

[@mh_a.d.]

@@arwinorso i think he was just joking

[@benjaminan1183]

Watch Family Guy, weeb.

[@samsamthetrashcan]

I remember when he died , It really was a shame . it really was felt all across the internet.

[@jeremy-ws1rb]

Awwww ok

[@mrcocoloco7200]

Yeah no shit.

[@SaiyanGamer95]

Everyone was upset. Love Mat or hate him, everyone got together for Roni's passing and to support his friends.

[@Knight_Astolfo]

*bagpipes play a somber melody in the background* "The minstrel boy to the war is gone, in the ranks of death your find him" *The camera swings wide, catching a full-frame flurry of highlands and open sky* "His father's sword he hath girded on, and his wild harp slung behind him"

[@SwoleTommyPickles]

@@mrcocoloco7200 what was the point of this comment? what were you hoping to achieve here?

[@justaspectator9762]

These shows are stuck in the matpast

[@fiendish9474]

Funny, laughed

[@marc7248]

I see you in Geometry Dash videos lol

[@justaspectator9762]

@@marc7248 I've been playing GD for over 4 years lol

[@wolfiemuse]

That was great!!! Lmao

[@vincevvn]

I’ve honestly met Matpat before at Vidcon and he’s one of the nicest youtubers I met there. There are a lot of really shitty youtubers out there with fake personalities that do harm to the mentality of the youth but Matpat is not one of them. People just love to hate.

[@amethyst4578]

@dorothydreams oftornadoes feel the same with mrbeast

[@itzyoboityfly6847]

@@amethyst4578 because they have money?

[@amethyst4578]

@@itzyoboityfly6847 no, idk why but he just rubs me the wrong way

[@estherharlequin2063]

@dorothydreams oftornadoes Not liking people or their content is normal, it is just that people say that he is a terrible person because they don't like his content. Which is very wrong. I thank you for your civility

[@wolfiemuse]

@@amethyst4578 Yeah that’s perfectly legitimate to dislike the show, his voice, the way he presents himself (somewhat cringy but I love it). It’s the people who say he is a terrible person, selfish, blah blah that don’t have any ground to stand on. It’s nice to know there are people who can disagree civilly about things like this still.

[@quandex5089]

Let’s be honest, Deadlock was left behind after the huge backlash from the Team Fortress 2 video.

[@patrickmatrix9963]

Was going to say that.

[@BizarreWords]

It was god-damn dreadful!

[@PeterGriffin11]

Why was there backlash?

[@Rogeryoo]

@@PeterGriffin11 it was mostly because of how innacurate some points for tf2 were. I don't recall the whole video, but one of the points was "overwatch has a 6v6 mode, while tf2 is 12v12, too much chaos", something along those lines, though tf2 also has a 6v6 mode. There were a bunch of other innacurate points in the video, I'm sure you could easily find someone tearing it a new one on youtube.

[@mkscorp9152]

@@Rogeryoo ye

[@twilliamspro]

Gaijin goombah explained the voice thing. When he started making the videos he had pretty bad anxiety that his voice sounded bad so he messed with it and made it a character (the little goombah guy)

[@AZodiacCancer]

He commented higher up and explains it and why he left Matt's channel.

[@Blueflag04]

Using the voice makes people hate him even more

[@paddle_my_mad_laddle]

It's really interesting to have seen the dynamic of the Game Theorists go from a collective of video game enthusiasts to the Mat Pat show. I remember watching them between 2014-2016 when Mat was starting to grow the channel so it was an interesting time. Also the TOME project was more of a Christopher Niosi thing than it was a GT thing. The 15 episode animated series was went up on youtube in 2015 and it's still there today it seems.

[@collaterale1]

Actually, he currently working on a Tome RPG game

[@SofaPop.]

I mean, they still have Austin from shoddy cast

[@eliphas_vlka]

@@SofaPop. i dont like what he do on GT, thats kinda annoying and not fun at all

[@BlueScreenBoys]

matpat when he finally solves fnaf for the 50th time

[@fusionsigh]

And that’s one of the reasons I stopped watching him

[@williamsfamlily3561]

*milk

[@wobber.]

hey your streams are cool :)

[@tommytomthms5]

@@fusionsigh that and he got a huge ego. he seems unapproachable and is a "lol just buy a better pc" kind of attitude now. aka an asshole.

[@Warxoth]

@@fusionsigh preach, those videos screamed of paid ads.

[@AlexSilver9]

Anyone remember watching the Deadlock episodes where Mat Pat got Reggie from Nintendo? Those were cool.

[@Blueflag04]

I love that episode

[@soulwriter6342]

I genuinely want to know why people think Matt is a terrible person? He’s always been kind and charitable I don’t get the hate

[@Emmabowlesss]

Yeah totally agree! I feel like he’s genuinely a nice guy, just a little too perky (gotta love the inner theatre kid). Maybe he comes of as disingenuous to others??

[@younggamer7218]

Well its just he can be quite cringey so people don't really like him too much that and some theories made by him are just stupid. So people don't really like that. Though I agree he is a good person if not kinda cringey at times.

[@wolfiemuse]

@@younggamer7218 His cringe is admirable/adorable to me because I think he’s super self aware about it

[@Emmabowlesss]

@LUC HARTWELL while I do think giving the Pope Undertale was a bit bizarre, another person literally gave the Pope a book about themselves. Definitely not the worst gift by any means

[@Kevin-di6ef]

He's not terrible, while he has done some few bad things, those are just common mistakes. I personally (any many others) find him too arrogant.

[@JamesonDylan]

I met MatPat in 2014 at a Con. He was very nice. He reveled in the attention from fans and answered all our questions. He was a lot of fun. It really seemed like his real personality.

[@MahDryBread]

Man, this takes me back

[@annonymousdude9416]

^^^

[@iamamushroom411]

Yea

[@iamamushroom411]

Also I really like your videos 👍

[@jobrolon340]

It seems you stopped editing to comment something for the algorithm.

[@bajuju7959]

What are you doing here? Go back to your “beating Pokémon Fire Red with only a Chancy” or something. Jk love your vids

[@adamha.]

TheGamerFromMars but he's not a gamer who's from mars and he just talks about internet stories.

[@Lolialbertoo9]

He used to make gaming videos for this channel

[@nightwingmix1]

@@Lolialbertoo9 those were my favorite videos on the whole website tbh, and I still really love some of them like the tails doll glitch video, the lavender town theory, and especially the pacman level 256 glitch video, which was really cool to me especially considering that at the time I had no idea that some glitched out 256th level of pacman existed.

[@adamha.]

@@Lolialbertoo9 yes I understand but it's a joke lol

[@MrAjking808]

@@adamha. a dumb joke not funny

[@mikethecurious2489]

Used make game videos

[@Awsome2464]

I'm fairly certain that the "TF2 vs Overwatch" episode of Deadlock didn't help the series at all

[@metrohunter-qy4fz]

It was probably the nail in the coffin

[@fiendish9474]

It was one of the most heavily debated GT video in the TF2 community, everyone was clowning on em

[@deppo436]

*TEAM DEATHMATCH*

[@baloony6648]

Lmao I remember watching it when it came out and thinking "this is fucking garbage". That definitely killed the series for good.

[@vicgc96]

"You play as white cis men!"

[@notsans9995]

Tome was actually on newgrounds for years way before gametheory was a thing, it actually started off using sprites instead of flash animation lol

[@RunicGEAR]

The good 'ol days of TTA

[@RoninCatholic]

That's the version I watched. I'm old.

[@notsans9995]

@@RoninCatholic I just went on newgrounds and all the old episodes are still there. Its so damn cringey but damn I love the nostalgia rush of pre-social media internet.

[@Kaisersaurus]

I remember when TheGamerFromMars and MatPat had minor beef

[@Kaisersaurus]

@dorothydreams oftornadoes yeah

[@lazilyymade]

Wait my cat curiosity is kicking in, got a TDLR on that beef?

[@cab12300751]

@@lazilyymade just watch GFM's response video on his channel. He goes over the whole thing in that

[@JohnRDVSMarston]

Quick explaining: GFM made a video about MatPat, and talking about controversies about him; ended up on a neutral note (I believe). MatPat thought it was just another roasting video, and kept, for minutes and minutes, saying that GFM called him gay or something dumb like that. GFM was bothered to make a response video for that, explaining everything. MatPat responded nothing as of now

[@notaraven]

Play by play of thier beef Matpat has a neich of haters, a while back a couple of "game theory changed" vids came out with moderate attention. Gamerfrommars did a video giving his usual factual outline of game theorist channel. Matpat in a livestream lumped him into all the hate and reacted the pr approved version of poorly. Gamer reacts to the video with a clip of matpat talking about how he never watched porn and the bewildered look on his wife's face. Should've been nothing, Matpat does not take criticism very well but has a good group stopping him from slipping on bannana peels

[@SneedsterSpeedster]

I used to think Matpat was a greedy money-chasing douchebag, but, the fact he sought out Ronnie's family to continue to give them the royalties nearly teared me up.

[@ninjaface598]

He still is regardless of wanting to do that

[@-haclong2366]

¿Why do you think that, though?

[@noahmccarthy8007]

You do realize he's recently done a stream for the second time trying to raise money for St. Jude's hospital, right? I'm not saying he's perfect, nobody is, but it's clear he's not a bad guy by any means

[@michaellammey2543]

@@ninjaface598 he raised 3 million dollars for Saint Judes, how is he selfish?

[@redred7702]

@@ninjaface598 MatPat and his wife were known in the community as genuinely good people... helping new creators and teaching them about algorithm and stuff. I’ll say they’re definitely not perfect people, and not the first people I’d point out as being KZbinr role models, but they were never known to be selfish douchebags. And may I just say there was legit a stream hosted yesterday, set up by them, where they managed to raise 3 million for St. Jude’s...

[@aidanquiett668]

Matpat seems kinda like he is raising tons of new channel ideas to flower into their own thing (or fail miserably after 2 episodes in some cases.) and use them as a way to hold viewers in between other shows or larger projects as a bonus, rather then the other way around. Pretty cool if its intentional on his end

[@JohnRDVSMarston]

As it seems, he likes to make an idea bloom, and be shared with people; but the game theory channel was grown just for that, unfortunately: game theorizing. That's why a lot of them fail or get separated into their own personal channel; cause not everyone from that channel would like to see something different, so they would amass a small portion of views

[@SoobiCake]

We better archive Food Theory before MatPat gets rid of it.

[@woaddragon]

Yes

[@gedeonnunes5626]

We better get rid of it ourselves, actually. I mean, food theory?

[@Jay9966]

@@gedeonnunes5626 I rather watch Uncle Roger talk about food than some over-the-top dumb manchild talk about food theories lol

[@sonerec725]

@@gedeonnunes5626 i actually have been liking most of the food theory stuff ive seen. i hope he doesnt get rid of it.

[@mattwolf7698]

Why does that even exist?

[@redben1252]

There is another forgotten film theory show called "Film Legends"

[@TheGamerFromMars]

Can't believe I missed one

[@noem4162]

@@TheGamerFromMars dang

[@Jackaxe-ti4de]

With this one what I understood (note I have not done ANY research to confimr this) is that it was a channel collab as a sorta 'sub boost' for both Mat and the other host. However It immediately saw extremely sporadic uploads and I don't think the viewership was all that great from what I remember.

[@OmoSilverZet_X]

@@TheGamerFromMars oof

[@iFYMxDRKNSFALLS]

wasn’t there a “best film ever!?” where it pits different movies and give it super high scores?

[@valipower4468]

About the deadlock serie i remember the matpat say in one of hes livestreams that he and the people on the show got alot of hate for it and that it took a little to long to make.

[@patrickmatrix9963]

I mean I’ve only seen the TF2 Vs Overwatch Deadlock but Dear God it was atrocious

[@squeenx]

I like culture clash and some of the other shows, didn't know he straight up deleted their existence :/ even if no one watched them at first, he at least could've left them there for posterity

[@theirishpotato6588]

I didn't know that until now either and I agree.

[@lovablesnowman]

I presume they're deleted for algorithm reasons

[@squeenx]

@@lovablesnowman ? What would that even mean?

[@austinfarley8457]

Videos that do bad can hurt future videos that might do well

[@shadowknave1]

The Smash History privating may have been due to Nintendo DMCAs.

[@Starman062]

That’s what I thought too. As Nintendo really didn’t like content creator back then

[@IcyDiamond]

Aw MatPat was helping Ronnies family out after his death, that’s sweet

[@alexandredesouza3692]

Two of his former editors became suicidal. Out of their many attempts combined, one was successful.

[@EmmureMARIO64]

I heard Ronnie was kind of jerk at E3 before his death

[@firstnamelastname773]

@@EmmureMARIO64 watch Matts video on it I think he said something about it

[@IcyDiamond]

@@EmmureMARIO64 how exactly

[@fiendish9474]

@@alexandredesouza3692 jesus dude

[@FoxJ10027]

If I remember right, the TOME thing was basically just MatPat signal boosting a show he liked. It's actually a remake of an old sprite animation show. And they weren't really "video game characters" so much as "people playing a futuristic MMO like Sword Art Online or .hack".

[@tylermascola]

Hey there, I'm a current Game Theory editor! I don't have a lot of behind-the-scenes knowledge, but I can confirm that the lack of gaming shows that deviate from the "Game Theory" concept is due to the algorithm not favoring channels without a clear focus. It's a shame some of these series are privated though. I remember really enjoying Smash History. As for Frame-by-Frame on Film Theory, the creator's name was Kyle Adams (AKA twelthofadime). Not only did his FT series disappear, but almost all of his online content has been scrubbed. Including an entire gaming channel he did alongside Makemebad35 called "Pwnage". The theory is that he has moved on from KZbin as a career and dissociated himself with that content in order to help his chances with future employment.

[@bastois]

When I was younger I paid for the KZbin red game lab series, it gets better past the mirror's edge video but not by much. The stand out example is the Watch Dogs video where they actually brought in cyber security personalities and used real cyber attacks, still a bit cringe but honestly pretty good considering the rest of the series. I recommend you check it out if you have even a slight interest in cyber security because honestly as a young teenager, that video along with a few other things led to me pursuing a career in cyber security.

[@WeatherWX]

If you want to practice penetrating I would suggest to check out hack the box.

[@grambam36]

Ayyy man! That's rad! I'm pursuing that career as well! Best of luck!

[@geegee4389]

MatPat really wanted people to call him "Matdaddy" because he grew a patchy beard.

[@MrPine656]

That's something that's just supposed to happen on its own. Sakurai didn't ask to be called "Daddy Sakurai"

[@spiritupgrades]

umm thats not it works if you ask people to call you that it dies off fast just like all of hes video escapades

[@Yungblvckie]

Makes sense

[@DMTInfinity]

*#lolz*

[@spudsbuchlaw]

I think that's a joke

[@KreigWes]

Most of us watched all these shows, now they’re lost media. Weird huh.

[@shinkuhs]

Gaijin, Ronnie, Drake and Foot of a ferrot were always my favs. Still watch everyone to this day.

[@blooniel8032]

It's sad cause the Frame by Frame series of videos where absolute bangers

[@drunkerraritydash4885]

Matpat more like Wattpad

[@kardoxfabricanus7590]

Here's a good one too: Matpat? More like... MatBad! GOTTEM!

[@fiendish9474]

Got em

[@Apudurangdinya]

that is the most lowkey roast I've ever heard, i appreciate that

[@skinnychumpz007]

"Ive actually never looked at pooorn.. ever." -Matpat (2017)

[@WusterWasti]

this episode was cringe-gold.

[@Sgt-Wolf]

(X) doubt

[@eliphas_vlka]

Everyone say that in front of their wife x)

[@Riitje]

Also very easily debunked as he has used work of a certain lewd artist in his thumbnails before. He actually used to use raunchy themes in his earlier Game Theory videos.

[@aeircrown7994]

@@Riitje lol, it's actually his wife and him pick those lewd pictures because their assumption is that it can gain views.

[@thatguyinaldi9056]

Iirc the reason TOME is gone is due to its creator Kirbopher. He’s been involved in a few scandals. I believe he was exposed for being a physical abuser. One of the more notable ones is that he was the original voice actor for Byleth in Fire Emblem Three Houses. But broke his NDA and was removed from the project.

[@Sgt-Wolf]

Didn't he make brawl taunts back in the day.

[@thatguyinaldi9056]

@@Sgt-Wolf yeeeeep. So in another timeline he would’ve went from doing smash parodies to actually being a character in smash

[@Sgt-Wolf]

@@thatguyinaldi9056 Damm...

[@thatguyinaldi9056]

@@Sgt-Wolf yeah.. :/

[@CSwizzleDizzle]

Actually if I recall, he bragged about Byleth being in Smash before it was announced. So not only did he break his NDA, but he leaked the character before release too. Truly a modern day version of the Icarus story.

[@MuuToo]

I feel like Deadlock reached a boiling point at the TF2 v Overwatch video. Came off more as an attempt to ride the hate train, and considering how inaccurate a lot of it was just made the video come off as super ingenuous, with the guy defending TF2 not even representing it well. Hell, MatPat didn't even seem like he truly knew much about Overwatch.

[@spacetacos7574]

Weirdly enough,game theory sorta became all these meshed togethor

[@mr.waffles8739]

Hearing about Ronnie broke my heart, I just never thought he would do that, I had no idea he was suffering so much, I wish I could have done something to help him

[@Amador01Hector]

If I remember correctly, "Frame by Frame" was hosted by Kyle, who also did let's plays with MakeMeBad35 on another channel called "pwnageshow". Edit: pwnageshow and his own channel, "twelthofadime" no longer contain videos.

[@TheAlexSchmidt]

Yep, Kyle's personal videos also disappeared from his account.

[@rainbowdemon5033]

And now The Science Of joins the roster

[@jasminewilliams3351]

Digressing and Sidequesting will always be one kf the highlights of that channel ❤ Ronnie had a brilliant mind and real talent. He is sorely missed. I had no idea his family is getting the revenue from those videos either, makes me want to revisit them again :)

[@Mike01029]

You should make a video about danger Dolan Used to like him and game theory but they started going to crap later

[@bryzantine1571]

Plus the pink cat disappeared

[@spebtm8017]

WE NEED THIS

[@Shedgie]

Oh my gosh yea I remember those guys its so weird with what happened and how they changed

[@jakemarshall360]

He was funny until he tried to make a joke every two seconds in his video the final nail was the weird ass animation shit with the cat

[@ilikesaying]

Pretty sure they also had 18+ content creators animate some of their videos

[@sorashiunin5287]

Dunno if anyone said this but Frame by Frame was made by Twelfthofadime and idk why but all traces of him have been wiped from the internet. Hearing you talk about it unlocked a memory because I had completely forgot about that show and I remembered I had watched the creators content before he collabed with Matpat on film theory!

[@Jrockten]

I remember Mat said in one of his life streams that he stopped deadlock because the debates made people too upset

[@guardian3636]

I'm kinda surprised about tome being on game theory but most of these video series meantion were a nice blast from the past

[@jacobokazaki759]

Oh my god all of these were buried so deep in my mind. All the memories are flooding back

[@skeletonking2501]

God Danny, that’s why I couldn’t find those old culture shock videos, god rest it’s soul D:

[@unknownseizure]

Hey but this secret is just a theory. *A matt theory*

[@Raleigh-uh2yh]

TOME! Oh my god! It’s on Chris Niosi’s own channel and fully completed! I loved its concept and a lot of the designs. The voice over is pretty good too. I think he’s also working on making a game based on TOME as well, I remember him streaming sprite animation. Hell, littleKuriboh voices in it too! I had no clue it was associated with GT at all! Definitely recommend checking it out.

[@CakeoftheMews]

TOME is actually a whole webseries my dude. It wasn't like, EXCLUSIVE to Game Theory. It was put up there as promotion in a way.

[@jasminewilliams3351]

I love that Game Theory has all these side projects and attempts at things. It's how we get cool stuff, like their RPG that I LOVED.

[@ashielilystar6134]

1:16 "ron was calmer than most hosts” Austin’s screaming also me:yep have to agree with ya there

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Dang Ronnie passed? I had kinda just tuned out Game Theory in general a good while before 2018 so I never knew. That's a damn shame he took his own life too, his show was one of my favorites on the channel and he always seemed like a chill, content guy. Rest in peace

[@Crumbledink]

I didn’t really like Deadlock but I did really appreciate the animations

[@RobertSeeJen]

I have NEVER been hit so hard by a YT death as Ronnie.

[@nojo9308]

He said sometime on gtlive that the reason they stopped deadlock was because the custom pixel animations took too long to animate along with everything else they were doing

[@blightcaster4388]

Hot take: Deadlock got canceled after King Raja assblasted him about the TF2 Vs. Overwatch episode. JUst a theory... Did you expect the funny game theory meme? Good. My joke worked.

[@themanwiththegoldengooch9811]

what happened in the episode that got everyone so upset?

[@blightcaster4388]

@@themanwiththegoldengooch9811 The king pointed out several writing mistakes as well as biased misinformation that made both games look either better or worse than they actually were. I recommend watching King Raja's video for more info if not a few laughs :D

[@dashua1735]

I miss King Raja. He's a chill guy.

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@themanwiththegoldengooch9811 generally, the Deadlock episodes represented both sides poorly. The Dark Souls Episode said you needed the very obscure rusted iron ring to beat the game, and that made it bad. You don’t need that item, at all. They also didn’t realized that the NPC’s are supposed to be unreliable to some extent.

[@vivithegr8389]

Ronnie was my favorite part of Game Theory's channel... Rest in peace...

[@ijustdontcareanymore1022]

Does anyone else think Matt and his wife kinda look like they could be brother and sister? 🤣

[@violetlavi2207]

They mentioned a few years ago that a lot of people say that (and I originally thought they were siblings too)! But it’s just coincidence 😂 they met for the first time in college

[@Vexmybeloved_]

Gosh I remember Frame by Frame. It was just deleted one day and I never knew why... 😔 It was literally my favorite show on KZbin and I used to rewatch those videos almost every week

[@miguelescobedo5112]

It really makes you think what would happen if all the side shows on Game Theory got popular?

[@Kahadi]

Well, for an easy idea of it, just look up Gaijin Goombah. He did Game Exchange and Culture Shock on The Game Theorists, but separated to his own channel so they could keep their focus more narrow for algorithm purposes (the algorithm would see that people would skip over videos and take it as fluctuating popularity when it was simply that some people would only come for one series. Separating the channels meant that the algorithm would play nice. A lot of channels did similar around then, ending series or separating them between channels like a music channel and a gaming channel sort of thing). Gaijin continued on his own channel with Culture Shock and Game Exchange and has since expanded to other series with the same themes (Which Ninja, looking at popular ninjas in media and rating them on historical accuracy, and now one about yokai in media and telling their mythological origins). So while some may have stayed on the main channel (I'm sure D&SQ would have stayed if Ronnie was still alive), most would likely have either remained until their popularity died or would have separated to their own channels to aid the algorithm like Gaijin did (and I believe Footofaferret continued A Brief History on his own channel for a bit as well)

[@urieldaluz250]

For the record, on deadlock, I forget when, but I think Matpat mentioned in another video when talking about fan arguments that deadlock basically was getting people up in arms having fights about the topics involved instead of the more calm rational debates he was hoping for? My phrasing may be off, but it was something about basically getting people too worked up rather than talking stuff out. (Might have been in his video post giving undertale to the pope, but I could be wrong)

[@robinfire0772]

Would be a interesting video if you did one on "what happened to animatedjames?" Keep up the great content thou ^^

[@mkscorp9152]

Ye, I'd like to a video on that ngl

[@Rvtro]

I think he was caught up in allegations I think and stop doing what he did, but this was a long time ago and I don't know if what i heard was true

[@robinfire0772]

@@Rvtro I've heard some of that too, but was never too sure about them so I think it would at least be an interesting topic to talk about in the next video, sorry just need closure on that channel

[@mkscorp9152]

@@robinfire0772 ye, don't rly know the full story but I recall maybe hearing a thing or 2

[@Blueflag04]

He just left suddenly

[@LAWMECHE]

I miss digressing and side questing so much. Rest In Peace Ronnie

[@elfiebranford9330]

Remember when Game Theory was more than just MatPat? You know it was a long time ago because Screw Attack was still a thing.

[@kevinwowiling7753]

Eh there's austin

[@TheHairydanny22]

Frame by frame was really good, i miss it

[@mavajax8814]

Gaijin goombah was the only reason i watched gt channel. Then i found goombah's own channel and it was bye bye game theory

[@battlechiky1251]

UPDATE: Austin left the game theorists, to make videos on his own channel and the videos on game theory eere deleted, whuch means that a lot of THE SCIENCE can be considered lost media.

[@Spongi_124]

Big shame Brief history and Deadlock was cancelled, both of them were my favorite shows on Game theory, and having them being gone is a darn shame

[@voidistrash5040]

Lucky that we can still watch a brief history on FootofaFerrets channel

[@cpMetis]

I don't recall TOME ever having been associated with Game Theory beyond them uploading one episode for promotion, and believe they said that's the entire reason why it was there. TOME was originally a basic Newgrounds show, and what you see as the series now was a complete remake and rewrite. Also, it's awesome. Say I, NYLOCKE! DRAGON OF VAGUELY REMEMBERING PAST EVENTS!

[@alfianfahmi5430]

I don't even know Ronnie died. Rest in Peace 😔😔

[@Lala46949]

yeah he died on July 4th 2018

[@ArcaneChipmunk]

Matpat really loved doing Deadlock, but it caused a lot of hate/ passionate arguing from fans. I know he mentioned it in one of his gtlive streams. It also took a lot of time with editing, so they decided to let go of the show. He did hope that maybe in the future in some other format it would come back.

[@lazilyymade]

When you watch Game Theory just to hear his "I solved FNAF"s and had no clue there was a hidden cinematic universe.

[@Illegal_Immigrant]

What scares me, i literally have been a matpat fan long enough to know every single one, except frame by frame and tome.

[@G_8_C]

There was that short collaboration Matt did with Nickelodeon that he uploaded exclusively to twitter.

[@cupcakewarp]

I remember watching all ,i think 3 seasons, of TOME. Played a big part of my childhood and I really loved it.

[@FNTM2k3]

I remember pretty much all of these, since I started watching around 2014. Anyone else?

[@zolphar]

same bro I started watchim GT when it was at like 1k subs

[@Blueflag04]

Same. My first video was the bullet bill in 2014

[@LaurenTheorist]

I would love MatPat to watch this and explain some of the decisions made. It would be interesting.

[@joshuacarre06]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn_IgGWqa62dZ5I here lol

[@ninjahedgehog5]

Big Tome fan here. Tome was an animation passion project by Chris "kirbopher" niosi and is a rebbot of his newgrounds sprite animation series "TVtome adventures". The entire series can be sren in his kirbopher and on newgrounds channel and was most likely removed from game tgeory as the situation was most likely just a friendly promotion. Kirbopher is currently hard at work developing a mario rpg inspired adaptation of his TOME series taking place in a new continuity Seriously Mars, what was up with this half assed research

[@Reshiram793]

The guy from frame by frame, Kyle, had another channel called Pwnageshow that nearly disappeared from existence, barring some reuploades

[@treymon3135]

There has got to be backup downloads of the Smash History series. Those videos got a lot of views.

[@TheAlexSchmidt]

There are, I've found all of them

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

There was also a short 5- episode project called Petucation.

[@darobow]

The dude that did Digressing & Sidequesting died!? He was so great at what he did!

[@Lala46949]

he died july 4th 2018

[@FootballPsychoPS3T]

Film Theory also used to have a series called Film Legends in which movies were given a score for doing things well. It had this sort of arcade vibe where films could earn combos for doing lots of things right.

[@whatthewhatthe9117]

Digressing and sidequesting were much more philosophical and impactful compared to the other side shows

[@Spar_kie]

God, TOME, I need to watch that again. I remember first seeing it on Mat's channel, excitedly waiting for new uploads, before realizing that it was uploaded on another channel with a lot more episodes. Got to the final one and just forgot about it until now. Time for a trip down memory lane it seems.

[@bluekirby64]

The only KZbinr that had a show on the Game Theorist channel that I still watch is Gajin Goomba

[@lilllyeevee6536]

I like him. He’s so interesting then MatPat😊

[@NoxWyatt]

I remember Frame by Frame on The Film Theories channel. The host was a guy named Kyle Adams. If you watched makemebad35 back in the day, or watched the pwnageshow channel between 2012 and 2016 (before he and Damian left the channel and all the videos on pwnage got either privated or deleted), and also had his own personal channel called “twelthofadime” (which just like with pwnageshow, was ultimately abandoned), then you might know who I’m talking about. From what I’ve been able to gather since then, I’ve found that, apparently, the reason pwnageshow’s videos are gone from the channel is because he found a job and didn’t want his boss to know about it. I remember seeing an Instagram post on makemebad35’s account there, and someone commented on it asking what happened to the videos and Kyle was the one who replied with that explanation. I hope that clears up things in regards to Frame by Frame.

[@mushermusica]

God this is so nostalgic holy shit

[@grapefaceofficial]

Your content is so interesting, but your voice is so relaxing, seriously keep up what you're doing!!

[@SwaggerSonic]

Out of all the years they could’ve set that Tome show in

[@christianlopez2793]

Was looking for your channel because I forgot to sub so I searched up *” What happened to channel “ because this is the series I remember the most*

[@RandyLeftHandy]

I love when he tries to do a history themed episode and gets shit on

[@cofagrigusfan24]

now his focus seen to be on multiple theory channels (game, film & food) + live streams