My Daughter Ignored Me Her Whole Life And Now Wants Back In As I Have Money r/Relationships

[@shadewolfe1231]

Story 1: However commenters want to spin this, two things stand out. 1) The daughter ignored her mom until mom came into money. 2) The Ex refused to pay for the daughter’s college for said excuse but insisted that OP “owed it” to the estranged daughter instead? That doesn’t add up. OP, NTA. Parental alienation is a thing and is pretty common.

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

The first YTA in the first story is tripping. Forcing the relationship would make things worse. Not only would it show Op doesnt care about the child's feelings but it would fuel to the hate fire. Even if there was extra stuff, she has no right to demand money. Why would you demand money from someone who ruined your life?

[@bug-in-a-rug]

Doesn't Reddit always preach not to force relationships onto children? If she had tried to to force it, people still would have been accusing Story 1 OP abusive. She just can't win in this situation and it's sad

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

@@bug-in-a-rug Exactly! Its so crazy how they pick and choose. I think they're projecting personal experience with Op and the daughter

[@fallingawayfromthenorm]

People would have lost their minds if OP said she forced a relationship with the daughter, saying she was abusive and not respecting boundaries.

[@JimmyT28]

Something tells me it is either the Dad or the Step mom making that post. They keep trying to justify their behavior as the right way cause they got _monay._

[@carolroberts4614]

This one made me feel quite ill for op. I'm all het up now.

[@majesticco.4700]

I like how everyone in the first story glossed over the fact that the dad and step mom wanted the daughter to pay her own way through college, but once Op decided not to chip in, then they were mad at Op.

[@RuminatingRaptor]

His attitude towards his ex shows you exactly why the daughter hated her.

[@Acidfunkish]

Something about this story is fishy. It seems written by a 12 year old, or something.

[@majesticco.4700]

@@Acidfunkish keep in mind the op wasn't from the us. Idk where they are but english might not be their first langauge

[@Acidfunkish]

@@majesticco.4700 Not just that, though. The way some storytelling elements are brought up (or not) just seems bizarre, at best.

[@nowetherider]

It could also be your so used to the idea that people lie that you expect a stranger to talk to you about ever little detail. Take a step back and ask yourself would you give out personal personal information. The information is pretty reasonable its a clear case of parental alienation even if you think the worse of the mother the simple fact the father didn't pay anything and after the mom said no instead of being like well that fair I want my daughter to learn the value of a dollar instead everyone jumps on op.

[@bambooscooby1024]

Blaming the mom and saying it is her fault in the first is total BS. My ex and his family had money and threatened to have me arrested for trespassing if I tried to go to pick up my son who they moved out of the state I lived in WITHOUT my permission. I am in the US and I did not have the money to fight them and had no help. In the US the people with the money make the rules and we all know that and anyone saying different are full of crap.

[@pansprayers]

@@doyouliketacosiliketacos5139 those who are arguing seem to think that - for some God aweful reason - if you're the mother, you absolutely give up any right to your body the second that embryo fertilizes. If you present any front other than glowing, happy, energetic, positive and easily bonded with your child, they label you a monster. If you're in OP's situation, you get crucified. Yet we see the reverse every freaking day on Reddit with father's, giving fewer details, and the villagers grab the pitchforks on his behalf.

[@gaaraxnaru]

Did you get your son back?

[@wmdkitty]

They wouldn't have done that without good reason, like you being completely insane, or a danger to the child. What aren't you telling us?

[@gaaraxnaru]

@@wmdkitty Are you serious? Or are you acting like those stupid commenters in the first story?

[@kaykay8855]

Story 1: NTA. Op, tried to stay in your daughter’s life but she ignored op and said she hated op. Op isn’t blaming her daughter.

[@WardenSpectreCommander]

These people have poor reading comprehension skills. OP has done everything in her power to have a relationship with the kid and basically got spit on by this kid every chance she got. Now she looks at OP as an 🏧.

[@kaykay8855]

@@WardenSpectreCommander thank you 🙏🏼 finally someone gets it. I think what some people forget is that parents are people, meaning as much as they love their children, op can’t force her op to spend time with her and all those years of constantly hearing her daughter says that she hates her and wish that her stepmother was her real mother finally wore her down, so she gave her daughter what she wants: the parents that could give her whatever she wants and removed herself from her life. Which is sad. Plus, does anyone else think that the ex husband was already seeing the stepmother while he was with op. FFS he kicked her out and said he’s looking for a wife, and his new wife just so happens to be able to have any/anymore kids?

[@thedestroyasystem]

I agree, however I also agree with some of the comments saying we have details missing. Even if OP is telling the truth in its entirety, I am very curious what the father could’ve possibly said to make OP’s daughter hate her this much.

[@kaykay8855]

@@thedestroyasystem I recalled in the update that he wanted to take their daughter on a vacation out of the country or something like that, and when op refused he said to their daughter, “We’re not going because of your mom,” or something to that effect. Basically when he wanted to do something that involved op’s input and doesn’t get the answer he wanted he would tell it to their daughter and paint op as the bad guy.

[@thedestroyasystem]

@@kaykay8855 yeah I just got to the update. If you blame enough stuff on OP for long enough, I could see why that would foster hatred

[@CarinaCoffee]

Story 1: I'm disgusted by how many comments try to gaslight OP. I'm sorry, but what else could she have done when her daughter refused to leave the house with her or even see her? Forcefully take her and force her to come with her on outings?! This story screamed of parental alienation or at least that the daughter was an entitled brat who rather spend time with the wealthy "fun" parents.

[@vanzy01]

👍

[@pansprayers]

Women are just supposed to deal with it. If they say anything, they get accused of not fighting hard enough. I'm not even suprised.

[@Argendriel]

Right? For how much redditors just love to accuse everyone of gaslighting at the drop of a hat, they sure love to do it themselves...

[@saratronus]

The obvious answer Kidnap the child. Because that's the only f****** thing. OP could have done Reddit is being an a**. She did everything legally correct

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

​@pansprayers it's so weird though because redditors always take the woman's side. Idk what's wrong with these people. The poor woman. These redditors have read too many abusive mom stories

[@precious_toebeans]

Reddit has been quick to accurately point out parental alienation. I dont know why reddit suddenly needs a court case to prove it with this specific OP

[@fishbowl5308]

Because this one op is a woman and 85 percent of reddit is American where it's damn near impossible for the dad to get primary custody.

[@ameixsell]

It might have to do with gender stereotypes. Like majority of parentL alienation victims are fathers, and this is a case where it the mother and people have a hard time because she's the mother and doesn't expect a mom to be a victim of alienation

[@JeanyyBee]

I think it’s cause she’s a woman. The YTAs are buzzard. I just listen to another almost identical story except it was the dad and they were all on his side

[@dementesf]

@@JeanyyBeeidk man, there’s a story around much like this one, but it’s mother and son. Father cheated on mom, son knew and blackmailed father and took his side. Son shows up as an adult asking for money, reddit calls for his head on a platter.

[@isaacnation4116]

Welcome to reddit. Not an original thought in sight. Full-on Hive mind mentality.

[@Russman67]

Story 1: So OP is family now that the daughters dad and stepmom want her to pay for college to learn responsibility. I don't know about you, but pay for it yourself does not include suddenly reaching out to the parent that you disowned. Not the asshole in the slightest here for shutting her down.

[@Jessidafennecfox]

Pretty much, op daughter's seeking payout from her because op is her bio mom. Emma is an awful kid

[@Raaslen]

Story 1: NTA, and wtf happened in the comments on this one? One thing I hate about this sub Reddit is how biased people are in some cases like this one, OP gave a decent amount of information but people jumped on her and choose to ignore the fact that OP's ex wanted to teach her daughter about money, but was ok if it was her paying. I am usually on the team "teenagers are dumb and deserve second chances" but teenagers can also be assholes undeserving of forgiveness, and while it's very different for a parent to cut out one of their children and the children deserve more chances from their parents that don't make then immune to the "cut toxic people from your life" thing, it wasn't the case in this case, but it's perfectly fine for OP to say that enough was enough Story 2: NTA but why is OP married to this AH? She should tell this idiot to stay with his parents

[@jamestown8398]

A lot of redditers think they're a lot smarter than they actually are, so they say "something is missing" and vote based on an imagined scenario that only exists inside their heads.

[@karimuffin]

Story 1: NTA. You don't need a reason to be terrible to your parents. I think people forget that you can do everything right and your child can still hate you for no reason because people have free will. It's really gross that OP's daughter was like "hey your parents and dead give me money!111" after years of being told she ruined her life and giving OP nothing but hate. You can love your child but you don't have to entertain their BS, and I wouldn't blame OP for cutting her off entirely. Thankfully OP is a nicer person than me.

[@Digitalfairy]

Because too many idiots keep parroting "believing something or someone's word without proof is crazy" mentality. They automatically assume people always have a reason for something or other.

[@vanzy01]

👏

[@MaryTheresa1986]

💯

[@jortoska3217]

Yes thank you, I personally knew people like this in highschool. Like the parents were total sweethearts but she was a piece of shite

[@theresecelina9920]

Wow, you could not have said it better👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😍

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Ouch .. I have no heart, but it broke when OP was telling he lr story of how her "daughter" turned on her. But honestly, OP is NTA. OP tried to have a relationship by the daughter didn't want anything to do with her. Now OP is dining good for herself and suddenly her daughter wants money out of her?? Who wants to bet the daughter would not even be reaching out if OP was not in a position to give her money? The father may have poisoned her but at the end of the Day, OP daughter burned that bridge a long time ago. The daughter is a greedy little pig and all the commenters calling op an AH should get kicked in the head with a steel toe boot.

[@truthseeker9249]

(high five) I have a heart but my heart can turn black, cold and lifeless at the drop of a hat. It's easy for me to hate someone, wish bad things to happen to them and burn bridges with them forever if they hurt me in just the right way. MY boyfriend and I agree that we are not afraid to throw our children in the trash if they turn out like OP's daughter. They grow up hating us when they don't deserve it, they refuse to have anything to do with us except when they want something, etc. etc. We don't have time for those kinds of monsters even if we created them.

[@bgcorporation]

I'm shocked with the amount of YTA in story 1 especially with how Reddit usually acts. How often do we hear about the richer parents poisoning their kids. That's what happened here. We also know how biased family court can be. Then there's the meetup where she just wants the money when dad refuses to pay for her college. We got the hallmarks of a spoiled child raised, and now dad doesn't want to continue.

[@RuminatingRaptor]

Exactly.

[@jackspring7709]

Me, too: Reddit can be a bizarre place sometimes.

[@memeking7273]

Personally I treat stories where is a clear NTA but people call YTA as "OP is innocent but people want Drama that's not there"

[@Parasolhyena]

Reddit tends to react exactly like who ever commented at the beginning of the post that also has a lot of upvotes if it's a mixed matter, I mean heck i've seen it so many times.

[@michele33s68]

I thought it was the husband posing as the reddit poster.

[@colleencook382]

As a divorced mother of 6, I can say parental alienation is REAL. It took years of me keeping my mouth shut and praying they would figure it out on their own. Now they understand and none of them talk to him.

[@Prettypoisonswitch]

That is terrible. I'm so sorry. I'm happy they were able to see him for his true colors in the end.

[@melanellie_art]

The response to story 1 is really shocking to me since we’ve seen this kind of story before and it always comes up unanimously in the OP’s favor. I don’t see any obvious gaps in the narrative that would lead to missing missing reasons, I think the money imbalance plus a poison-feeding ex is plenty of reason for a child to go down this path. Every single Reddit story we read has a different side to it but all we have to go on is what the OP provides, and this does not strike me as a particularly one-sided storytelling at all, compared to many others.

[@immapotato1]

they might have ended up on top due to OP's reply. for all we know they were the first comments and OP immediately replied and people just ended up piling on. reddit upvotes often just read the top comments for summary

[@morecoffeeNOW]

I agree. I was trying to figure out why there was such vitriol for OP compared to others telling similar stories. I wonder if the reason is because OP is the mother instead of the father. Most parental alienation stories, not all but the majority, seem to be the father being alienated by the mother. There seems to also be the inherent assumption that, despite OP stating otherwise, that the situation took place in the US where mom's usually get custody unless they are acting pretty horribly. I wonder if the commenters are judging with that bias in mind, though it doesn't apply. Idk, of course, but these could explain what I felt was an unexpected and unwarranted judgement against OP by many.

[@pansprayers]

Doesn't shock me at all. Reddit seems to think that everyone is in the US (and whinges about US custody issues regardless of how they turn out), don't seem to grasp that money buys lawyers that win custody cases, and ultimately thinks that mothers aren't subjected to parental alienation (my bios did it to eachother) and aren't allowed to back down, for their own mental health (or when threatened with an RO for trying to follow the custody arrangements as decided by the court. It happens to both mothers and fathers almost equally since the gear shift in the '70's and '80's from custody and assets defaulting to the husband in divorce (unless there was a solid prenup in place and good lawyers to enforce it), but you really only hear about the male side of it, due to this weird social idea that is still attached to motherhood immediately forcing you to be a martyr and punching bag with no rights to your body.

[@morecoffeeNOW]

@@immapotato1 that's a good point. I hadn't thought of that.

[@GiordanDiodato]

@@morecoffeeNOW yeah "Men's rights" activists. All of them should just off themselves. the world would be a better place if they did

[@MiraTheWarlock]

I am a little iffy about these comments who just barge in to gaslight OP with their 'you didn't fight enough' or 'there's a hidden reason you won't tell' Look I've been abused by my father and thus have no desire to see him, I know people who were abused by their parents I also know people who have alienated a parent because the other parent was the fun, cool or rich parent There may not be a reason, some people are selfish to the core Like....girl cuts off her mother, then comes back demanding money and is abusing her stepsister online...ans these idiots jump to 'OP IS SECRETLY AN ABUSER!!!' Like, come on reddit, put on your big boy pants

[@ohno8398]

Even if we assume story 1 OP was the worst parent in the world, wouldn't it then be weird for the child to open up communication after OP's parents died just to ask for money? And then the dad trying to teach the kid a lesson about responsibility and paying for herself but getting mad at OP for not paying for her? What?! Sure OP could be lying to make herself look good but so could any poster.

[@stillvisibletoallusers]

Exactly, whose to say that Emma wouldn't fabricate a story? Or that her dad and step mom wouldn't have a hand in it should she post it. Honestly though, it's not like parental alienation is a stretch. My bio dad poisoned my older brother against our mother, told him she would be there to pick him up on x day when really it was the day before or after she was due to be there so my brother would think she didn't care. Called my mum poor and uneducated. My brother believed it all absolutely hated and shunned our mum. He's 33 now, only in the last 3yrs has our bio dads lies started to unfold.

[@memeking7273]

@@stillvisibletoallusers hope your mother is doing well

[@stillvisibletoallusers]

@@memeking7273 thank you for your well wishes. She is doing okay or at least that's what she shows me, I can see she slips into melancholy sometimes but it's not a cloud hanging over her like it used to be. She has been in therapy for the last 3yrs. The deception and manipulation run very deep unfortunately.

[@darkage1524]

Thank god i found this you all those utter idiots saying op is lying are forgetting the fact the kid was happy to gain contact for money but hates her mother the father absolutely spouted heaps of garbage about op they cut the ties and expect op to give money to a spoilt brat even the ending just screams "i must do what i can to convince her to give me money so I'll just say what she wants me to"

[@philwill0123]

@@stillvisibletoallusers yep had similar. Had situation with my kids my ex would tell them I was visiting, but 2 hrs earlier. Then kids would wait, get upset, and she would make out I was late/not turning up, and then treat them.

[@fcold9402]

1. NTA. You owe her nothing. You did not ruin anyones life. You gave her life and her father and step mother poisoned her against you and she willfully ate it up. Now her parents sent her to you for "free money". Do not listen to commenters who say it is all your fault. Your daughter is now an adult and is making the choice to be a golddigger. Take care of your step daughters, as they are your true daughters. Step mom is your biological daughters true mother.

[@Mewse1203]

Story 2: NTA "Went on a rage fit about how I created an awful situation" Uuuh...no. HE created an awful situation. He DID steal her car. That's what taking something without permission is: theft. This guy has no respect for OP. First, to tolerate her not being invited. Second, to sell his car without nary a discussion with her and expecting her to lose her boundaries around her car because of it. Third, taking her car not only without permission but expressly being told NO. All this, from the riding in public transit to the arrest, is just the consequences of his actions. Edit: yeah, I forgot about the "you know what will happen" part. That sounds suspiciously like a threat...

[@clarehidalgo]

I've ridden a bus for 2 hours before to go to a museum and a train for 5 hours to visit my aunt from where I went to college at the time, and I'm autistic and don't like loud noises and big crowds. Husband has no balls if he can't suck it up to take public transit

[@Mewse1203]

@@clarehidalgo I used to take the bus an hour and half each way to university every day just to save gas.

[@jillimi]

I don’t understand why is OP with that husband, what a horrible marriage.

[@paden1865able]

My dad always told me that if someone didn't want to be around me at my lowest point, they didn't deserve to be around me at my highest point, People aren't walking, breathing ATMs and shouldn't be treated like they are.

[@JasperCatProductions]

Story one block your ex and your “daughter” she is greedy and disgusting. Focus on your husband and children who love you. My lord how much garbage should a woman take, no absolutely not. I would be no contact. Step daughter is grateful and loves huge difference between her and that “daughter”

[@packergeek10]

Yep. Had she told me she wanted money I would have told her to F off and been done at that point.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Exactly. OP should've told the brat to kick rocks.

[@HowToPnP]

I love the idiotic comments in Story 1 "It has to be 100% OP's fault! Children would never act irrational or be easily manipulated by their parents. It's not like children in divorces are regularly weaponized by the parents or like 'parental alienation' is a thing." God these People need to take a chill pill and pull their heads out of their asses!

[@RuminatingRaptor]

I agree.

[@clarehidalgo]

Parental alientation is horrible. My Grandma tried to parentally alienate me against my mom when my parents divorced and then bullied me from ages 10-16 because I wouldn't bend to her will as I refused to chose between my parents, in the end all that that accomplished was push me away from my dad because he didn't protect me from his mom. Then Grandma had the audacity to say mom was parentally alienating my dad. What broke me and made me go live with my mom full time was my dad saying "you don't love me if you don't want to hang out with my girlfriend every weekend I have you" when ever we went to his GF's house we'd sit in silence doing nothing for 3 hours. He didn't respect me or my time with him. I wanted to spend quality time with him or hang out with my friends on the weekend not spend it with a boring person who made us sit in silence for 3 hours and got mad if we brought like a DS or sketch pad to keep ourselves occupied. Like I didn't hate her just we had nothing in common and I felt it was a waste of both her and my time

[@infinessia4019]

Story 2: I don’t care if you’re family, friends, or the local pet groomer, you steal my stuff, we’re going to have problems.

[@GabrielleHayes1921]

1) Pausing now, just let this sink in, had Emma's stepmom been able to have more children they wouldn't have wanted Emma, they probably would've cut contact with OP and Emma and Emma would now be wondering why she wasn't good enough for her dad that he didn't love her and want to spend time with her.

[@vanzy01]

👍

[@Azulakayes]

Story 2: why is OP still married to this guy. They clearly despise each other.

[@robertx8020]

yep...divorce him like yesterday

[@phoenixsky6124]

Your ex says your a piece of sh$t for not helping but tells the daughter she’s gaining responsibility by paying her own way. Which does he want? He knew you had the $ and set you up as he’s set you up all her life. Absolutely not the AH. I suspect parent alienation. I’d also like to hear the daughter’s side.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

Since he is likely a fictional character she made up to troll reddit he would probably stand up and clap.

[@aislygncovante7524]

Story 1: NTA, she even went to court to try to keep her daughter. I'm shocked the lawyer ex wants her to have money from the birth mom, after saying she couldn't have money from him to teach her responsibility.

[@hazeltulip]

He doesn’t wanna teach her responsibility, he just wants to alienate her further from her mother

[@deleted_215]

Story 1 is definately NTA, commenter clearly hasn’t had much contect with kids when they think forcing a relationship when they don’t want it is a good thing. Relationships work BOTH ways and if OP did what they said, it’d be so one-sided it’d be hilarious

[@D-M-K-1-2]

Story 2: Soooooo... To the people saying ESH, How does OP suck? Because she called the police when her car was stolen? How does that make her a "Nightmare partner"?

[@Nukie144]

Also how else exactly is she supposed to get her car back from her (hopefully stbx) husband besides calling the cops? He was intending to leave her without her car for almost a week. It's not like she has a second car where she can drive up and repossess her car herself. I would really like to know what alternative the "overreaction" advisers suggest, besides allowing him to walk all over her.

[@sylvestercat1898]

For last story NTA. Consent and permission doesn’t immediately end when your married, if anything it becomes more needed because it’s honestly surprising how people become entitled to their spouses things from before they were married.

[@cookiecookie1780]

My older sister migrated to live her father and his side of the family because my mother simply could not support her at the time. She figured this was the best decision. Whilst with her father, my sister was fed lies and now she hates my mother and me. She thinks my mother abandoned her. So I get the OP in story 1. Parental alienation is a real thing. My mother tried her best. But poverty is a real thing. Anyway not the asshole

[@connienelson1515]

NTA. The kid hated her. You did your best as far as I can see and she keeps throwing it in her face. Take care of yourself and your family now. Let dad do his job which he wanted.

[@Sylphella]

Story one is heartbreaking and I get that the mom loves her bio daughter unconditionally, sometimes there needs to be a limit to how often someone can be treated like shit.

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

The commenters here are insane. Second story, a guy sells his own car to pay for his brother's wedding. His wife isn't in invited, but hubby seized her vehicle, in absence of his own, and runs off in it for a week. She reports it stolen, because it was. He manages to get stopped almost immediately, so he was obviously driving like an idiot and attracting police attention. This guy manages to do literally every possible thing wrong except actually crash it.

[@eliability]

Story 1: OP's daughter and the ex are shitty people. "I feel entitled to your money even though I ignored you most of my life :)" I won't blame her for how she felt but I can blame her for her ungood actions. And the first commenter BLAMING OP? No. OP respected her boundaries. If OP _forced her daughter to spend time with her_ the daughter would've hated her for it, There was no winning for OP. But yeah blame OP for something out of her control. It's not OP's fault that her daughter didn't want the relationship with her, and now that OP's daughter is older and very aware of how things are? That's on her. Op didn't blame her daughter for anything, these people blaming her suck. Edit: My bio dad was like OP's ex, and it almost worked. I was spoiled and horrible to my own mom and the hate stopped after years of my bio dad poisoning me against her. I was around 11 when I realized what my dad was doing. I would've hated being forced to spend time with my mom, and I did but she had full custody. My mom never tried to stop me from seeing him, my stepdad did. (I'm 15)

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

It's obvious that the rich father has thoroughly convinced his daughter that he loves her more because he could provide for her more, and mom was evil, dumb, and hateful for not having money. If the daughter comes sniffing around looking for a "relationship" for money, then when she can't get any, she starts throwing "RUINED MY LIFE" accusations around, she clearly is only interested in money, possibly psychologically equates it to love.

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

STORY 2: wow this is literally the second story where a husband takes his wife’s car without asking and she reported missing. What was the other one? OP was in college and she had to take the car to go to her exam but her husband goes to the college and steals the car so he can go on a guys trip, of course she did not know her husband took the car so of course she reported it missing.

[@GabrielleHayes1921]

I can't even lie when Mark read that I just went "he stole it again???!!"

[@maryguokas400]

I like how the husband was " why did you have to report it stolen " umm cause it was.

[@itsjustme7487]

Why didn't entitled AH hubby rent a darn car. He is the AH in this story. My ex hubby would lend my car (in my name. Paid for by me) on weekends to his friends because I could wait til Monday to do errands and don't work on weekends. And stay home alone because hubby had plans without me. Reasoning didn't help so I told him the next time it happened, I would report it missing.

[@bunnyslippers191]

@@itsjustme7487 Ah, one of those "what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine also" people. I've known a few of them over the decades. Dated one for a while, too, but not for long.

[@itsjustme7487]

@@bunnyslippers191 You wised up before I did. 👍 👍

[@Argendriel]

I think my favourite comment on story 1 is the person who accuses OP for depriving her stepdaughter of the valuable lesson of paying her own way through college while at the same time accusing her of favouritism for not paying her birth daughter's way like... come on, which is it?

[@vanzy01]

That was stupid 🤣

[@jusminejustice2794]

@@vanzy01 completely idiotic. Like they magically forgot that having money for college is extremely helpful.

[@fcold9402]

2. NTA. He asked to drive the car and you gave a clear answer. He then stole the car. Calling the police is the correct answer.

[@CarinaCoffee]

Yeah, since it's OP's car he's also probably not on the insurance, so not only did he steal it, he was driving without insurance. And if he's such a bad driver, imagine the fallout if he'd caused an accident and someone had life altering injuries or died. I think if OP knew he took the car without him being insured, that could make OP liable as well depending where they live, couldn't it?

[@Galworld761]

@@CarinaCoffee why didn’t he just rent a car? You can get them for like $30 per day.

[@susankaempfer8427]

I’m with Mark on this; why the heck are these two together?! Let him go shack up with brother and bail!

[@FlamesofJagger]

Last story -NTA. Husband was dumb to sell his car to pay for brother's wedding, then has the audacity to threaten OP for calling the cops. OP puts up with way too much and needs to get out of this marriage.

[@robertx8020]

This A great "play stupid games, win stupid prices ' example

[@mgaus]

I agree, but my vote was ESH. Let's not forget that OP intentionally lied by omission to police because she knew it'd be treated as a family dispute.

[@thecoolgrandma7208]

WTF....dumb husband sells his car to help pay for brothers wedding?! If brother Can't afford to pay for his own wedding, don't get married or make cheaper plans. Then the dumb husband, steals wife's car....smh, why didn't he just rent a car to attend the wedding?!!!

[@ailoriarayne5086]

Story 1: Sounds like the dad planted lies in his daughters head and won her over with money. The dad and daughter are the AH.

[@dangomez5649]

How in the hell did reddit not jump to the conclusion that story 1 was the dad twisting the daughter to hate the mom. That was instantly my first thought.

[@runningonramen6963]

I'm a child of a divorced family. Im eight years older than my sister, and was an adult away in college by the time the divorce happened, so I got a third perspective view of how parental alienation can happen. Our mother would chop her right arm for us but our father is a manipulative narcissist that has a larger salary and can afford nicer things. It is so true that trying to force a relationship can be more damaging. So yeah, hardcore NTA.

[@bethanntay]

It is as if the these comments don't know what parental alienation is. Completely clueless people.

[@LaineyBug2020]

Whoa. I'm surprised at the story 1 comments giving OP such a hard time. I feel like if OP was the Father it would be a different story. She's definitely in no way TA. I don't necessarily blame the daughter for how she turned out though, that's 100% on the dad and step ho-bag!

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

Im glad I wasnt the only one, they went feral on her for no reason

[@CapnAkira]

You think it would have been different if it was a man? Are you new to Reddit? It would have been worse. Dads don't some kind of pass for having a child brainwashed against them.

[@pansprayers]

@@CapnAkira are you new to Reddit? Almost everytime a father comes onto the platform with an identical situation, Reddit calls the mother every name in the book. Heads up, this happens almost equally to both parties even in the US (who ever has the best lawyers wins) there's just still a weird societal stigma - despite the law changes in the '70's and '80's that made no-fault/one party consent divorce an option and stopped defaulting custody and assets to the husband in a divorce unless there was an iron clad prenup and lawyers to enforce it - that says that women are supposed to eviscerate themselves silently. If they dare speak out, this happens. It's almost like you know nothing of actual Reddit trends or actual history. Color me SHOCKED.

[@CapnAkira]

@@pansprayers Wow. That's an amazing sets of lies you've got there. You really tried to make an anomaly the norm. It's well known that unless she is extremely unfit (or the father can afford an incredible lawyer in this case), mothers are awarded custody of children the majority of the time. But back to the post. There are multiple ones where a father was in OP's shoes and the response revolve around calling him a "deadbeat", "sperm donor" and telling him "If you really cared, you would have fought harder for her". Oddly enough, that' last one is also said a lot in real life. But don't let these common occurrences get in the way of your feelings. Hate away.

[@pansprayers]

@@CapnAkira wow, that's an amazing set of manufactured bullshit you've conjured up based in the propaganda you've had funneled down your throat. The difference between you and I is that you think you know things, and I actually know Family and Civil Law Attorneys that will tell you you're an idiot. Tell any one of the dozen I know from all walks of life and political spectrums, spanning across eight states with vastly different demographics, and they'll laugh so hard they cry. Money 💸💸💸 wins custody and divorce cases. Period. Again, brush up on actual facts and history, and the deluge of studies that say that not only are you wrong, you wouldn't be able to pass the LSAT, much less the effing bar exam in states where the literal standards are so low, they call it Arkansas and Mississippi.

[@zachf748]

Story #2 - Absolutely NTA. That husbands behavior was absolutely despicable. No husband with even a shred of respect for his wife would _ever_ do that. That’s instant divorce worthy right there.

[@Tammohawk1]

1. To me it sounds like parental alienation to me. OP's ex successfully alienated her daughter from her. OP did everything she could and was rejected. I've seen cases of parental alienation and it's heart breaking. 2. NTA Husband sold his car to pay for a wedding that his brother couldn't afford. He's also a bad driver. I wouldn't let hi drive my car either. He made his choice, now he gets to live with it. Sucks for him that he's made some really bad choices. First one, selling his car, second taking OP's car. Someone mentioned insurance, very good point. My son drives my care frequently, so he's listed as a second driver on my insurance.

[@warrirornunluv801]

How shaperer than a serpent’s tooth than an unthankful child. To OP, I’m sorry.

[@theincrediblehunk2668]

Welp story one just left me with a sour taste in my mouth. I thought the comments on reddit would be more logical, but this just shows how disgusting the people on the internet are. Op is not the asshole and never was, she tried her best to be in her daughter's life, but the daughter hated her and didn't even try to understand why and now that she struggles with finances she finally realizes the "love" she had for her mom. I just wish I was there to shake some sense into OP and tell her that the daughter is just there to manipulate her for her money, just as her "actual parents" taught her. I'm 99.9% the moment the daughter is out of college, she will go no contact with Op again.

[@pansprayers]

Nope, it's a society thing, unfortunately. Parental alienation happens pretty equally on both sides. If it's a female, they're supposed to shut up and do everything, even if it literally kills them in the process. If the father is a deadbeat who constantly uses the kid as a weapon - there was a 'fun' one recently about the OP finally giving up and telling her daughter that if her father stood the kid up after telling the daughter that he'd only attend graduation if OP wasn't there, she wasn't going, and she followed through when he did just that, as predicted, for the umpteenth time. The comments calling her heartless were infuriating. Flip roles, and the pitchforks come out on OP's behalf, and they scream 'burn the witch'.

[@theincrediblehunk2668]

@@pansprayers Yep, you are correct, flip the genders and the whole internet would be tellin Op to forget about the daughter. But I disagree a little with the argument that it's only parental alienation. At one point the daughter has enough mental capacity to understand that something was fishy with the whole "Mom is a deadbeat" and she should have asked questions and found out what really happened. But no, she stayed comfortable eating the lies about her mother, living comfortably with a parent that really doesn't care for her that much.

[@pansprayers]

@@theincrediblehunk2668 parental alienation is weird that way. Like any abusive spin cycle, the situation is never 100% bad, devoid of empathy, or in general just all around aweful. Unless the kid completely devoid of all emotion, you'll occasionally see the glimmer of their humanity peek out.

[@kaylaprice370]

even after they went to therapy together she still seemed like she didn't give a shit about hurting her mom's feelings. just because they couldn't move? and yet she's still gonna move anyways. the daughter still doesn't care about OP and never will. they alienated OP so bad I doubt it will ever get better

[@TheLizcass]

Parents have feelings too you know.

[@nightstarstar1]

Apparently parents are not allowed to be human. Must be perfect at all times, always have the answers. Especially if you’re a mother.

[@WatsonAndDaughter]

I'm usually pretty hard on parents, but OP in #1 is not an asshole. OP owes her nothing.

[@ummokay2611]

NTA, even with all the yta I love how Op stood up for herself, with the update I wouldn't be surprised if the daughter only change tunes to her mother so she could be in good graces so she would be in her will or further financial support.

[@kerrywhimsey2061]

Story 2: I would like to point out that the husband had no problems with leaving his wife without a car for 5 days, so no qualms on calling the cops. HE left her stranded. He could have acted like an adult and set up other arrangements. Story 1: For all the negative nellies I would point out that OP was paying support while poor. The dad and s. mom didn’t need it. OP could have taken the easy way out and let the adoption go through, but she loved her daughter and stayed her mom in spite of everything.

[@shells500tutubo]

Did it say somewhere that OP prevented an adoption?

[@yggdrasil1969]

"Why are you two together, man?!" That was my thought exactly. Why do people stay in such toxic relationships?

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

Story 1: OP is NTA because her rich baby's daddy has more funds to pay for their daughter's college yet pins it on OP when he's been poisoning their daughter against OP. The baby daddy blamed OP for not allowing them all to leave to another country where life would be so much better. So the daughter hates OP for squashing a bullshit hypothetical dream her father created in her mind. I hate how the redditors blamed OP for NOT fighting harder for custody but not listening that BECAUSE OP was fighting for custody was exactly why the daughter hated her. The daughter wanted the Disney life her father said was available only if her mean old witch of a mother would just give up and let her leave. That's the problem here. The daughter has been raised to be so entitled to her own wants and desires that she lacks any empathy for her mother. I hate how redditors seem to just protect the child even if the child is a little shit. I wonder how many redditors are also children projecting their own teenager angst on the situation.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Story 1: the guy at 9:15 literally missed the part OP and ex weren’t even married. She got pregnant and she moved in with him and when he got done with college he kicks her out saying he needs to find a “wife”. He never married her 🤦🏻‍♀️ Another case of a redditor not reading the story

[@Love2Banime]

That detail is shocking. What was OP to her ex? Was she just a one-night stand or something? It is unfortunate that I dunno how customs work for those who are not married outside the US

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@Love2Banime she moved in with him after her parents kicked her out, so there is something there more than a one night stand

[@mintyblossom3930]

The first story breaks my heart. Everyonee harping on OP like she gave up on her daughter but she tried. I can relate to that, trying so hard to get someone to love you/appreciate you and just getting the cold shoulder.

[@stewartann816]

I don't understand why these people in the first story can't understand that parental alienation was literally THE reason OPs daughter was like that. Like....?

[@pansprayers]

Do you want the real answer, or the easy one? The real answer: Because unlike the majority of the parental alienation stories on Reddit, OP's the mother, and despite the fact that the historical data on the subject states that this happens almost equally to both genders, women aren't allowed to give up, much less speak out about it. OP was supposed to keep trying to enforce that custody order, even after that RO was threatened, even if it literally killed her, because mothers aren't humans. Easy answer: Reddit is just finally giving a raw, honest look at how fucking hypocritical society actually is.

[@wendyhadley2764]

Why do people in the US assume it's the mother that gets custody of kids in the US. This is not true it's the richest one that gets the kids, depending on the judge the fact that the mother has cared for these kids fed him taking them to school wash their clothes held them when they cried cleaned up after they puked means nothing if the father's got money.

[@pansprayers]

Exactly. They assume it though, because that became the narrative when the laws started to change in the '70's and '80's to no longer have custody and assets automatically default to the husband in a divorce, and to allow women to file for and finalize their divorces without having to get their husband's permission. Then, the screaming started that it's not properly balanced, that no matter what, men were always the victims. The fact is, even in the US this situation plays out pretty evenly on both sides - women are just expected to shut up, and take it, no matter what.

[@clarehidalgo]

Depends, where I live the judges are most often give 50/50 custody unless abuse or one parent travels a lot for work

[@CarinaCoffee]

Story 2: NTA, he sold his car, then complains about taking public transport for even a few minutes a day, demands to take OP's FOR 5 DAYS and on top of that he's a bad driver and that car is in OP's name so the insurance might not even have him listed, in that case he not only stole her car but was also driving without insurance. Can you imagine the absolute shit show it would have been if he caused an accident without insurance and someone got a life altering injury or died?! OP did give him the chance to do the right thing before eventually calling the cops. But this really should give OP the push to divorce him, because this is not a partner.

[@GIChiyo]

Story: "You accused me of stealing your car" He DID steal her car, wtf

[@The.S.M.Evans.91]

Story 1: How is OP in the wrong for her daughter not wanting to be in her life? For some reason, people think that parents are supposed to deal with whatever kids throw at them, even of it's degrading. OP's daughter may have been manipulated by her dad and stepmother, but at the end of the day, OP is not a punching bag, and absolutely nobody should have to live their life in regret when she tried to be involved.

[@hhhhhhhh704]

Bruh the YTA comments made my eyes roll to the next dimension

[@impagain]

Parental alienation is a strong manipulation tactic, and as a 30 year old it still affects me terribly. It never got as bad as this story for me, thank God, but I thought for years and years that the divorce was all my dad's fault, when really it was mostly my mom's.

[@cryofist]

Why is it so hard for people to believe that kids can be spiteful bastards for the smallest of reasons?

[@Amna613]

Story 1: NTA. If the daughter was intelligent enough to guilt trip and emotionally blackmail her real mum for money after NC for long time, she is old enough to be titled the AH in this story. OP is NTA.

[@meganb.higgins973]

I've seen what parental alienation can do. I feel bad for OP

[@catcando1131]

Holy moly, I am shocked by the YTA in the first story. I have seen similar stories where the roles were reversed (the mom had custody, the father did not) and the Reditors were all sorry for the father and on his side siting parental alienation, etc… We seem to have such a double standard set of rules for women and men… This needs to stop.

[@cnow82]

Story 2: hell yeah I would call the cops! And a divorce lawyer!

[@APlatapus]

What a horrendous daughter.

[@loris1620]

Last story... he was taking it for FIVE days! Hell yeah. Call the cops.

[@MisterNightfish]

Wait, wait, wait. Her ex wants to teach Emma responsibility and have her pay her own way but if OP doesn't give Emma free money, the ex calls OP the asshole?

[@phoenixsky6124]

‘I knew the cops would say it is a family issue’ so I wasted police resources because I’m petty.

[@bgarciamcclellan]

Story 1: I can absolutely see this happening. I’ve seen it in my own family. There is a kiddo in my family (step kid to my family member, their spouse’s bio kid from previous relationship), who refuses to visit his dad & step-mom. Why? Because at their house there are rules, he didn’t just get whatever he wants and he had to be kind to his brothers - this was what he said. He told his dad he hated him, hate going to his house etc. How old was he when this began? He was about 10. Both families have tried (mom & step dad along with dad & step mom) but kiddo is still adamant. Dad finally told him he’s wanted and loved but he won’t force him to come over anymore, but he’s welcome any time. He’s invited to all events and included all the time, he often declines. But they go to his school stuff, his sporting events, and do all they can to ensure he knows that he’s still loved and a valued part of the family. It hurts them but you can’t force a child to see you. You show up for them, you stay in contact, and you try. However even when both parents are working together to encourage the relationship sometimes it just doesn’t happen. When you have a parent that isn’t encouraging the relationship, well……

[@willj24]

I've heard Story 1 before, and no one has yet explained to me how "Mom and Dad want me to pay for this myself to gain responsibility" comports with "so therefore, I want YOU to pay for it." And the lawyer and the doctor spend all kinds of money making the daughter not want to be around her financially poor mother, and yet the moment she gets a step up, the ex is still so vindictive that he must take it away from her by sending the daughter he could easily pay for to HER for college money? I do agree that it feels like there are some missing reasons here, and the OP may not be as blameless in the failure of the relationship as they make it out to be, but after years of being cut out entirely, it's opportunistic to say "Oh, now you have money? Great, I want a cut of that!" And it's obvious it's just a ploy to take what OP has when the father's rationale is "You need to pay for it yourself to help you gain responsibility" followed by lambasting the OP for not paying for it.

[@ringluvr]

Story 1: Op is NOT the asshole by a long shot. I can't believe she got so many "YTA" votes. Ridiculous.

[@lokcachte]

Story 1: i don’t understand how people see op as the asshole. My father and I were victims of parental alienation and while I never said I hated him, it would’ve been hard to get me to be receptive to him because I absolutey did not want to see him. He never did anything to hurt me and tried his best to have a good relationship with me. Recently he told me he tried to get me to live with him when I was a teenager. It makes me feel so sad that I didn’t, because I likely would’ve been able to have a more normal life as a teenager. I feel a lot of regret for making my dad feel so sad. Idk the situation probably isn’t the same for OP but she tried her best from the sounds of it. It sounds like it worked out in the end.

[@Digitalfairy]

People think she should've "tried harder" instead of letting Emma go with the ex and thus equate with letting Emma go stay with them equates to abandonment which we al know is BS.

[@gazzhumbly5433]

I feel terrible for both the OP and the kid in story 1 as they've both been played and lied to by the father. Money isn't everything.

[@scortisoaracoleman3261]

The first story, the daughter only reached out when she found out her mother came into money.

[@dm9078]

NTA and those idiots saying “we’re only hearing one side of the story” When do we ever hear more than one side 🤦🏽? NTA and let him stay away forever

[@rmhartman]

Your ex owes it to her. In fact, if the reason they want daughter to pay for herself is to "learn responsibility" then they should NOT want OP to pay for it

[@tegantalks9612]

Story 1 is exactly why I don’t say anything but positives about my son’s dad when any of my kids are around. He doesn’t need that and my ex doesn’t deserve to feel that way even though he could visit more.

[@littlestrawberryfaery]

Story 1: NTA Daughter picked a side that she didn't have too. Op gave her plenty of money and love but she didn't want it. She wanted her rich mommy amd daddy to be her " real " parents and she got that lol. 😒 Her daughter is just ab×sing her at this point.

[@aless2906]

I love how Reddit can go both ways on the second story, some time ago we saw almost the same thing with Op's brother stealing his car and everyone was on his side, or even with another woman having her car stolen by her bf/husband (can't remember) and they voted NTA to both stories but here most people think ESH or YTA

[@jaybea365]

"we are only hearing one side of the story here" Yes, yes you are, bc *that is how Reddit works*

[@CyeOutsider]

Story 1: Absolutely not the ahole. You cant force yourselves onto a child, especially when they've been absorbed into another (step) family.

[@EvilTwin559]

I reported my car stolen after my brother took it without permission. I didn't press charges however the police made him apologize and warned him that driving a car without the owner's permission is a crime.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Story 1: NTA. If I were OP, I would've signed away my rights and moved on with my life. Emma is just playing nice in hopes of getting a future payday.

[@neonbat666]

The first story just goes to show that the active parent in a kid's life, isn't always the better parent. Not only that, but a kid not liking their parent isn't always because the parent is evil, but it can come from other players in the kid's life (i.e: the father/stepmom manipulating her with their wealth and backhanded comments) OP moving on from a child who didn't want anything to do with her is not her 'giving up'. Heck, I bet money that had she pushed more into her daughter's life, commenters would call 'YTA for forcing yourself into her life and not respecting the space she wants'. Believe it or not, not every maladjusted kid is the result of neglectful parents. Sometimes parents can do everything right and the kid still grows up to be a piece of work.

[@shells500tutubo]

I think OP in story 1 should encourage her birth child, Emma, to be adopted by her stepmother since she is eighteen now. Then, if OP's stepchildren want, she can adopt them. But she really needs to make sure that her steps inherit, NOT Emma, and the best way to ensure that is to have Emma legally adopted. BTW, I don't think for a second that the father told Emma she needed to make her own way. He just told her that OP can into her parents' money and she should try to get what he thinks is owed her by OP. Eff them both. And if OP is feeling extra evil, she could write a letter to Emma telling her to get adopted by her stepmother, but to keep in mind that the only reason she grew up with them is because stepmother couldn't have more children. So if she could have had children her father and stepmother would have left her with OP.

[@zachf748]

Story #1 - Anyone calling OP an a-hole is the real a-hole. And obviously has no idea how strong parental alienation is. As someone who has experienced it firsthand, what OP said is *_exactly_* how it goes / can go. When you add in the fact that dad has a nice big house, a “new mom” who dotes on her, new siblings to connect with, and has the money to spoil her and give her a life with everything she wants (including toys, food, vacations, experiences, etc… is hard to compete with that. Then you add in the parental alienation, where her dad (and possibly new step mom) start talking shit about the mom… It would almost be impossible to _not_ start hating and resenting her mom. And let’s be real, if her dad is telling her that her mom is ruining her life because she won’t let them move, so now they have to stay where they are instead of going to live in X country. He is for sure building that new place up, and telling her how awesome the new place would be, but because of her mom they have to stay where they currently are. And where they currently are is way worse than where they want to move. And if he’s telling his daughter all that about her mom, he’s assuredly saying telling her other things that paint her as the bad guy too. Parental alienation is real, and that mom is not the a-hole at all. Then you have the dad *_still_* bad mouthing the mom in the present day, when it doesn’t even makes sense to… He told his daughter he wasn’t paying for college because they wanted her to go out and live her life and do it on her own to become self sufficient. But then when her mom won’t give her that money (money that he essentially didn’t want her to have, so she could do it on her own), now the mom is the bad guy again?… No. Just no. The dad is the a-hole, and while it’s not the daughters fault entirely (because of the parental alienation), the daughters behavior and treatment of her mom is extremely a-hole(ish). I mean she’s now an adult and should know better, but she has no problem contacting her mom now (after she basically abandoned her) _solely_ to ask for money… as if she somehow even deserves even one penny of it… Just terrible. And I feel horrible for the mother. Especially after a ton of people just pile on her and call her an a-hole because they don’t understand the depths of parental alienation.

[@thesilverling1765]

Thank you for the video!

[@MarkNarrations]

Thank you for getting involved and being here

[@marcusking9856]

Through personal experiences in story 1 my dad painted my mom out to be a trash parent and i gave my mom hell Through my teens until i was 20 man it's easy as a kid to get carried away with the lies of a parent you idealize. So on my part OP is NTA to me

[@Uneclipsed]

On the last story: If this was a one-off situation I don’t think I’d immediately jump to calling the cops, but I have a feeling that there were other things leading up to this. I could absolutely see myself calling the cops on a spouse for theft if there were extenuating circumstances surrounding it, and it seems like there were. Who sells their car to pay for a siblings wedding?! Why isn’t she invited? Why does her husband sound like he hates his wife? I need answers.

[@LisaApril]

Story one: I believe the OP, on how her ex raised her daughter/their daughter with the insidious language that her mother was blocking her/their daughter’s happiness. I’ve seen it in person and the anger those words cause in children and then the things children say to that parent with the lesser finances and lesser time are truly horrible. I believe Op is telling the truth 100%.

[@aleahlrb]

Story 1: Maybe just me but as OP mentions how the daughter kept repeating the same "You ruined my life, I wish my stepmom had been my real mom," it kind of sounded to me that she was possibly being subtly brainwashed by the stepmom? Like maybe the stepmom was saying stuff like, "I'm sorry I couldn't give you a bit more than what I'm giving you because I'm not your real mom. If I had been your real mom or your mom gave me full rights to you, I would've given you a lot more." Basically subtly poisoning the well.

[@adriennewaterhouse5174]

Good POV

[@alyssahayes4648]

Story 1: Nothing against OP's daughter, but that is definitely wrong to hate her own mother and just ignore her for so many years, then finally come back to her just so she can "sink her teeth" into OP's inheritance that OP got from her deceased parents. I agree with OP on the "I'm not a wallet" comment. And shame on the father and his wife for "poisoning" the daughter and turning her against her own mother. At least that's how I see it. If it were me and my daughter, I wouldn't blame my daughter either. Instead, I'd fight even harder in court to win custody of my daughter and keep her from the toxicity of my ex and his wife. I would bend over backwards for my kid, sacrifice everything so that she could have whatever she needed, even if that means I have to go without for a while. Story 2: OP's husband was dumb for selling his car to help pay for his brother's wedding, then "expect" OP to let him drive her car, especially with bad driving habits. It's a shame that he's not aware of other ways to help someone pay for their wedding. Now OP's husband stealing her car while she was asleep was way out of line. Good for OP to call the cops on her husband and getting her car back at the station. That threat of "you know what will happen if you called the cops"... if that were me, I would've recorded it and sent it to the police and filed a report and filed for divorce on top of that. I wouldn't be around someone who going to take my car without permission or consent and drive off somewhere I can't get to for days. OP, ditch this guy. Leave him high and dry. You can do sooo much better than him.

[@xxKillgorxx]

I've seen something like this so many times from reddit. If a parent has tried and tried and gotten nothing but hate, then it's the parent's fault. Parents are not allowed to feel hurt, feel tired, or just flat out be people. Reddit paints parents like they always have to forgive, always have to be there with open arms, and that their children always should have their support. Sometimes it really is just too much. If you have consistently tried and put in effort but nothing has come of it, it's not always your fault. Sometimes you really do just have to cut your losses.

[@patricklasseter9915]

Thank you for always making my day better!

[@MarkNarrations]

Aww thank you Patrick for being here and making my day better too

[@jjaime7330]

My niece tried what the first poster did. The brat was entitled and blamed my sister for everything when she couldn’t get her way. She even attacked my sister when she refused her money. I bit** slapped that girl and I paid for her to go to military school. Her dad didn’t say shit, just sheepishly agreed. Now my niece is working as a nurse, and learned that being a brat won’t go far in our family.