NHL Teammates who HATED Each Other

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Hadda edit some of this at work so apologize for any music that is louder than usual! Also, as for the sponsor mid video, I felt it was disrespectful to advertise a product after talking about the sad topics included in the Hoffman Karlsson beef. Hope y’all enjoyed!!

[@brandonarmstrong8495]

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[@christianjohnny1015]

What about the chris pronger incident in edmonton

[@kurtisgibbs6698]

Are you Bobo from O&A?

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Who?

[@reaganbush5686]

@@christianjohnny1015 he cheated on his wife

[@tubemarcus]

JR was just pissed that Marleau gets (rightfully so) the respect of his peers.

[@timyumichuck9262]

I couldn't really heard what Jermy said, cuz I got my 2 stanley cup ring plug in my ear

[@josephhale9198]

Roenick was way better than marleu

[@tubemarcus]

@@josephhale9198 doesn't mean his peers respected him. JR is a loud mouth, always has been and probably always will be.

[@wiseguy3675]

Marleau is a class act. Roenick is a clown.

[@dannymcnamara2554]

You are an astute commentator!!🇮🇪👍🏼🇬🇧

[@richardhayling4339]

If your woman is tempted by another guy she is not worth keeping

[@richardhayling4339]

@@ripcord8781 buddy I am married and I can tell you I would never allow my self to be temped even if some woman absolutely desired me she would not even get the time of day guess I,m just a stronger mind set than you

[@richardhayling4339]

@@ripcord8781 never

[@richardhayling4339]

@@ripcord8781 I saw so many of my friends and guys I knew at young ages let their manhood dictate what happened in their lives to many guy lives ruined by temptation you know 3 kids 3 different moms....they barely had enough money left over to rent a room somewhere I saw it happen to so many decided at an early age I would never let that happen to me

[@mypuggames4296]

@@richardhayling4339 you a real one my dude, keep up the good work

[@iwantlee9510]

Word

[@bobbyochoa2234]

Karlson is humble af after the incident. That’s how a real man handles conflict

[@stephenmonachello6256]

I give him props, because Hoffman and his GF needed their asses beat

[@charlesgreg6018]

His wife made up stuff about someone else lol

[@chrisd3969]

nah he should of fought Mike.

[@darkmark7589]

Nah bro you accused the guys wife of saying all this fucked up shit about your unborn kid and your wife??? You defend your wife's honor especially when the guy confronts you.

[@chrisd3969]

@@darkmark7589 agreed. That's always how men solved their problems throughout history. I think part of the reason why things are so messed up these days is because there's not a lot of fighting.

[@DeepDiveHockey]

I remember watching PK and Gally doing things for HabsTv and just playing on the ice and they seemed like they were actually friends, there was always a competitive atmosphere with them even playing games but it seemed playful. Really makes you think about what goes on in locker rooms

[@Stammerboy91]

Facts bro use to watch them play games together and baseball , seemed like they were really close .

[@swilliams9]

Eh, pk has been called the worst teammate they've ever had by a lot of guys he's played with. Not in a malicious way where he means to do harm but he only seems to care about himself.

[@citizenmope605]

I’m a Devils fan and I don’t like Subban. I don’t think he deserved what was happening to him but I can see how he tries to make it about himself and not the team.

[@LordStanley94]

@@citizenmope605 He and Amber “the Turd” Heard need to hook up. Never was much of a fan of his. Many of his antics were way over the top

[@filelps1178]

Oh my god you fucking incel @@LordStanley94

[@Dr.Frankensteen]

As a Blues fan, I can tell you the trade had everything to do Shanahan with sleeping with Janney's wife. In fact, Tony Twist confronted him outside of a bar about the situation. (Twist apparently did punch him a few times). Haven't seen anyone cover this story though so good job bringing this up.

[@kmacca5342]

That’s exactly why Shanny was shipped. He does remain married to Janney’s ex to date. I did not know that Twist confronted him though. Can’t stand Shanny anymore.

[@Dr.Frankensteen]

@@kmacca5342 Yep. That was the story. And the last thing you want to do is piss off Twist.

[@bocephus124]

100 percent right, and the other , one that hurt blues was Doug Gilmore, getting caught sleeping with babysitter, team was forced to trade him , just sad these two I consider terrible teammates,and apparently big discontent in clubhouse about this , rumor is it was an employee for blues teenage daughter. .

[@kmacca5342]

scott jungmann Right we did not get much in return in that Gilmour trade and he got off with a slap on the wrist. Then he burned us in ‘93 on TOR. Another ex-Blue I don’t cate for .

[@grantbaechler3529]

@@bocephus124 from what I heard it was made up by the parents of the girl. They were allegedly trying to extort money out of him. Don’t know how true but you never know.

[@Turn140]

Imagine being with a woman who laughed and mocked a women for losing a child before birth. And saying that she hoped he lost both legs. AND STAYING WITH HER??? Dude no wonder Karlsson couldn't play with him. That's disgusting

[@ThatEflatGuy]

Brind’Amour should be in the Hall of Fame. Change my mind. I also think he should’ve been the Conn Smythe winner in ‘06. Obviously Cam Ward played phenomenally and was probably the best player in the Finals, but without Brind’Amour the Hurricanes probably lose in Round 1 to the Canadiens. Rod willed that team to the wins that they needed. One of the fiercest competitors I’ve seen in any sport.

[@christianjohnny1015]

I agree 1000 percent

[@CM-ef2hd]

As a Flyer fan I always thought had Lindros been traded for Primeau that year the Flyers would have won the cup.

[@danevertt3210]

Should have been Buffalo winning that cup

[@waynejohanson1083]

Totally 100% agree Brind-Amour is a hall of famer.

[@waynejohanson1083]

@Rollo_Tomasi Play great in the playoffs until he got to the finals. And then he was horrible.

[@trisgilmour]

Just remember these guys are people doing a career and naturally there’s definitely going to be people you just won’t get along with.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Ofc. Just like any atmosphere! Bound to have ppl ya don't like.

[@paullucci]

But also remember that Roenick is a trash bag no matter what

[@Asmahdan]

@@paullucci Agreed, Roenick is just a meat sac fool of b.s. Self centered ahole that believes he and he alone should be in the spot light. Anytime something is being covered he tries to make it about himself.

[@ibleedorangeforever7039]

I remember the Shanny and Janney issues. Growing up in the Suburbs of Philly, the Lindros/Brind'Amour issue had fans picking sides. I was a Brind'Amour guy myself

[@meganhigley8838]

I would be curious to know the rationale of those who picked the side of Lindros, as he was the one sleeping with a teammate's wife. Was Rod just supposed to be cool with that?

[@ibleedorangeforever7039]

@@meganhigley8838 in the suburbs we all thought Lindros was a spoiled man baby. I was happy when the Flyers management played hardball and let him sit after he demanded a trade to only the Leafs.

[@KimBouchard]

@@ibleedorangeforever7039 He was very spoiled. Had a co-worker who was familiar with him in the juniors. Parents dressed like they were going to the ball every game they went. Harassed refs and linesmen if they dared make a call on him.

[@mckessa17]

@@ibleedorangeforever7039 Lindros was drafted by the Quebec Nordiques and refused to go. He felt he was bigger than the league so I never had any respect for him.

[@ibleedorangeforever7039]

@@mckessa17 I agree but we looked at him as the next savior of the team. As a Flyers fan who saw a very mediocre but growing team missing the playoffs for a few years, I was hopeful that maybe that was a one-off. Little did anyone know that drama would be a mainstay of Lindros’ stay in Philly.

[@newfiejoe4998]

MARLEAU IS A GUY OF CLASS.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

F.A.C.T.S 👏

[@mattmarino4033]

What class? Math?

[@newfiejoe4998]

@@mattmarino4033 YOU DON'T APPEAR TO BE EDUCATED.

[@tail66]

@@newfiejoe4998 what would a newfie know about class?

[@newfiejoe4998]

@@tail66 PLENTY! NEWFOUNDLANDER TO YOU.

[@dannyd8625]

Back in the 90s I was friends with an Avs reporter. Kind of odd being a Wings fan, but it made for an interesting and fun friendship. Anyway, he had all kinds of stories that were open secrets around the league, but there was no way anyone would report them or they'd never get another interview again. As for the Shanahan/Janney thing- when Shanny got traded to Detroit, one of the first things Yzerman did was tell Shanahan to cut the shit. That they knew what he'd done, and if anything like that happened in Detroit there were going to be big problems.

[@dr.loomis4221]

"one of the first things Yzerman did was tell Shanahan to cut the shit. That they knew what he'd done, and if anything like that happened in Detroit there were going to be big problems." Let's see some proof...provide solid sources when saying things like this.

[@italian1ist]

@@dr.loomis4221 I’ve actually heard the same thing about this incident. If you search for it, you will find these reports

[@jeffroegner1499]

I always thought Shanny was more Jimmy Ds type. Guess i was wrong. 😜🤪

[@oldredbarnman]

Ever hear about Shanny and Karen Newman? For those who aren't Wings fans, she used to sing the National Anthem in Detroit, and I had heard she was having affair with Shanny.

[@Vincent-Van-Gogh-Fuqyurself]

Rick tocchet knocked out Lindros with one punch. He wound up missing like 20 games or so because of a concussion from that. A lot of people think Lindros's concussion issues started with the Scott Stevens hit. Nope! They started with tocchets right fist. My old boss is from Philly and used to be a Zamboni driver for the Flyers at their practice facility. He told me he saw the whole thing. The Flyers also made him sign a waiver saying he couldn't talk about it publicly for 10 years.

[@PhillyEaglesGirl]

That RUMOR has been proven false several times over. Lindros was out with a concussion BEFORE Tocchet came back to the Flyers. There was no fight. Also Brindy has stated there is no beef with Lindros. Brindy has denied all allegations between Lindros and his ex wife.

[@joshuadorie9198]

@@PhillyEaglesGirl of course they'd deny it. But we know it happened

[@PhillyEaglesGirl]

@@joshuadorie9198 actually you don’t know. None of us do. The only ones that would actually know aren’t saying anything.

[@joshuadorie9198]

@@PhillyEaglesGirl buddy I really don't care what you think is or isn't true. This happened. Get over it.

[@PhillyEaglesGirl]

@@joshuadorie9198 buddy, you’re the one making an ass out of yourself with your assumptions 🤣🤣🤣. You do you, Boo.

[@michaelkeller5927]

There's also the Oilers Mike Comrie and Tommy Salo's wife. Ruined Tommy psychologically and his career tanked. Poor guy

[@pwnedeful]

Lol and Chris Pronger and that one news anchor

[@dannymcnamara2554]

@Ferda Boiz 😢Adultery is very hurtful and destructive…leaving gaping emotional wounds.

[@hickettsisepic989]

I’d love to see the Wheeler and Laine shit covered if you make a part 2, this could be a really fun series

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks dude! If y'all want I can make it a series.

[@juliel4190]

@@idontgivetkachuk I would love this series

[@ianzang2178]

@@idontgivetkachuk i'd love to see this as a series

[@latviets8934]

@@idontgivetkachuk do series!

[@bdanfran5627]

@@idontgivetkachuk Lots of rumours about Guy Carbonneau getting fired for chumming with a player's wife.

[@BluesFanReacts]

i am fucking dying at the manscaped sponsorship lmao

[@callmejeff9272]

I wonder about the Horton and Seguin debacle

[@emmvee2932]

Hm, thats interesting, I've always wondered why they traded Seguin, that didnt really make any sense.

[@politicalbandwagon4989]

I feel like there’s a lot more to that Hoffman-Karleson beef. One of the oddest things about it was that Hoffman went after Karleson in the game, you’d think it would be the other way around.

[@DrEvil-ng7ep]

Well, he is Swedish...

[@mastyer0fReality]

This video is nonsense. Karlsson is the most overrated defenseman of all time.

[@Adam-bv5kt]

You could also do a video about toxic dressing rooms resulting in trades. One that comes to mind is the Flyers trading Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. Trading your top goal scorer and captain who are also best friends.

[@thomasbrown9402]

Yeah, that showed them

[@mikekroft86]

yea so traded our best two players who led us to the first stanley cup finals in 13 years, an we've been shit since, good job flyers

[@emmvee2932]

They were apparently moved because they partied too much. Richards was eventually caught crossing the Canada/US border with Oxycontin and the Kings used that as an excuse to terminate his contract. The NHLPA went to bat for Richards and the Kings had to pay him and its unknown how much due to a nondisclosure agreement that had to be signed.

[@charlisantini3403]

@@emmvee2932 Worth noting, it was an outdated prescription of pills that some jag off border guard went full tilt on. Basically, Richards had a script that he went through, got it renewed, but split some of the pills into another bottle to keep separate. It's really a lame story,

[@jasonsmith6295]

Don't know if anyone else mentioned them but long time defensive partners for the Central Red Army Alexei Kasatonov and Viacheslav Fetisov absolutely hated each other.

[@Finantheagile3]

I’m glad Erik and Mike weren’t the only ones otherwise it would have been a short video

[@Finantheagile3]

@@josephhale9198 haha no not that, I was making a joke because Erik and mike were the first two he talked about, after he was finished with them he said “they aren’t the only ones who had problems” because if they were the video would have also ended there

[@richrealdeal6606]

As a Sens/Stars fan, I was pissed about the whole Karlsson and Hoffman situation. Wish Hoffman was still there, because Ottawa robbed San Jose with that Karlsson trade. Sens have a lot of good rookies and Dzingel is back on the Sens and the Sens are playing much better this year.

[@zachzwerneman5061]

Yo dude you’re killing it with these videos, I love your editing and ability to put out information in a clear concise way and the way you put related stories as the intro to/Segway into the main stories, I love the hockey community here on KZbin but you definitely knock it out of the park

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Appreciate it Zach!! That rly means a lot!

[@havokan45]

rumor is Tocchett and Lindros got in to a Fight if you can call it that and Recchi got hurt breaking it up . The only reason i kind of believe that is one of Flyers broadcasters at the time Gary Dornhoefer said something about boys being boys when Recchi, Lindros where stratched right before a game , Can't remember if Tocchett was scatached to . then Dornhoefer was taken of the TV for a bit and later on weeded him out the Tv Boardcastes . Tocchett was rumored to have thrown Lindros in to a locker Recchi tried breaking it up and was hurt to but if remember right Rob wasn't in Philly anymore and Lindros wanted to be traded Clarke was rumored to have sided with Tocchett so Lindros didn't want to be in Philadelphia anymore .But all these years later don't know what really happen

[@robrichards8074]

The Leafs had the same drama go on in the early 90's. Gary Leeman, the teams top goal scorer was also scoring with star teammate Al Iafrate wife. Iafrate was dealt first and then Leeman within a year. The Leafs got Zezel and Rouse from the Caps and Gilmour and Macoun etc. from the Flames. It was one of few times Toronto turned lemons into lemonade.

[@thuaug4417]

always heard a rumour that al secord gave leeman a black eye for what he did to aloysius. someone should ask joe bowen what he knew

[@emmvee2932]

Late 90's/early 2000's too. Shane Corson was sleeping with Magilny's wife thats why they dumped him real quick. Shane's sister found out who was married to Darcy Tucker and apparently she forced Darcy to tell management.

[@Ragnarswe]

You want trouble? Mess around with a friends wife/girlfriend. If my friends girlfriend/wife comes on to me - it's a MASSIVE turn off. Dont fall for that, she is bad news!

[@windermere2330]

Do you tell your friend if their wife/gf hits on you?

[@Ragnarswe]

@@windermere2330 If you like a minefield sure walk down that way. Just ignore it and the "problem" will solve itself.

[@stephengiannone5449]

Yes I dont get especially with other women throwing themselves at the players. Why sleep with a teammates wife/gf.

[@stillwatching3255]

I agree. I would never do that to a friend. Not worth it.

[@yuriyyaroslavskiy8560]

This is a great video. I do think there are more similar stories. Will you do part two? There are rumors about Hasek and Ted Nolan. There was also a rumor about Gretzky's wife and Brian Bellows.

[@carlosg836]

Wasn’t it Gretzky’s wife and Tocchet or was that strictly a betting thing?

[@emmvee2932]

Interesting, Nolan and Haseks wife though? Nolan was allegedly fired after being Coach of the year for sleeping with Mogilny's wife.

[@BiG_JJ227]

Great vid bro amazing never tho that bout JR and marleau but then again roenick is literally hated by everyone so yeah

[@Legendofthetim]

Excellent video! Some of these stories are wild and I’m shocked for following the game as close as I do that I missed them. Informative, entertaining, hats off my guy

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Appreciate it man!!

[@LordStanley94]

Regardless how close you follow the game. I do as well. One never knows what transpires behind closed doors

[@kroniclemma]

I loved the Ovechkin-Malkin beef

[@elliottryan13]

You: "Prepare for this next one to shock you..." Me: "MALKIN AND OVECHKIN!"

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Congrats for guessing it!

[@elliottryan13]

Thanks bro. That was definitely overshadowed by the whole Ovi Crosby thing.

[@martinsiedlecki]

Ryan Giggs, Mauro Icardi and John Terry gave this video a thumbs up. Rumor has it Deon Phaneuf had a go at Martin Gelinas wife too

[@williamthefloridano]

Maybe she was drawn to his pilon reputation.

[@WLBarton4466]

Bobby Hull once said of hockey players and how they play. This was before helmets and face shields. " You can see the way a player plays an insight into his character."

[@AAbram000]

Janney/Shannahan rumor is 100% true. My dad worked near Janneys house in Richmond Heights and said Shannahans A-Team style van was always parked in the driveway.

[@roccosteo8328]

Of course it was he lived in janneys house when he got signed by St. Louis. That’s how they met.

[@sachads5322]

I knew the big ones but some of these smaller stories were super interesting Thanks for making this

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thank *you* for watching!

[@FTCoconutman]

I get the lindros beef thing it is like getting betrayed by your brother

[@MrBruinman86]

Tyler Seguin and Nathan Horton. It was strongly rumored that Seguin was sleeping with Horton's wife Tammy (a former Playboy Model). Horton told the Bruins he wouldn't be resigning there (despite having won a cup there) and Seguin was inexplicably traded to Dallas. The next day Horton signed with Columbus.

[@Dr.Frankensteen]

I didn't think it was a rumor. It was well known around Boston it happened. Either way, so screwed up

[@MrBruinman86]

@@Dr.Frankensteen Some sites dispute it, but reputable media members have confirmed it. But I believe it to be true.

[@Dr.Frankensteen]

@@MrBruinman86 My wife who is a huge Bruins fan and lived in Boston during that time remembers the drama fondly. I'm pretty sure it's true because I don't see any other reason to trade him if not for that.

[@scarbourgeoisie]

I used to work with a current NHLer's mother ( I won't mention the player as I do not know him personally) and she had some unflattering comments about Seguin as learned from her son.

[@travisholte3241]

There’s also the Comrie nailing salo’s wife rumour and after that salo was never the save again his play removed his from the NHL fairly quickly

[@biffmifflin1829]

Shanahan was traded after the team had a brawl inside and outside of a bar in Florida. Apparently, several teammates found out about the cheating and confronted shanahan, the brawl ensued with Denis Chasse getting the better of shanahan. This left keenan with no choice but to send the cheater packing and it worked out pretty good for the Blues in the long run.

[@benjamincompton9767]

I thought that was tony twist

[@klb3293]

Idiot, it worked out best for Shanny who won 3 cups!!!

[@lionofthebluevale7170]

Lol, that's a joke right

[@klb3293]

How many Cups did the Bluesers win after they traded Shanahan?

[@卂I-n3f]

Hey love these videos…. Hockey history commentary is an untapped market imo and I didn’t know how much I wanted this until I started watching ur videos lol. Keep up the awesome work!

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thank you so much!! I decided to get into hockey history as history has always intrigued me, as well as it being a subject rarely talked about in hockey KZbin. And it’s been rly fun learning along with you all!! Thanks sm and I hope u decide to stick around!!

[@卂I-n3f]

@@idontgivetkachuk well u got my sub lol

[@estellegrignon]

Another outstanding video! Can't believe that after all these years reading about the game, you manage to make me learn new stories every time

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!!

[@DM-gx7qg]

Like Manscaped your balls will thank you 🙈

[@MatthewKonvict]

The lineup of Ovechkin, Malkin, and Kovalchuk sounds unbeatable.

[@justinperry68]

Ovechkin was a beast in his younger days, he was a smaller Lindros, its hard to find a player like that (res I know great 8 didn’t fight a lot)

[@mangrove]

I'd never read or heard of Shanahan being a cancer in Detroit's dressing rom, only the opposite.

[@randychase305]

He's been hated in every dressing room. I can understand saying you've never heard that maybe, but there's no fucking way you've read he was loved in dressing rooms.

[@jeffdekimpe1746]

@@randychase305 I’ve read that Shanahan was well liked, respected and admired in the dressing rooms he played in. But never loved.

[@amrieger]

Shanny was very well-liked in Detroit's dressing room. Of course 3 Cups in 6 years helps.

[@elijahrobinson2362]

Word is that Yzerman told Brendan to leave the garbage behind him or there would be problems.

[@kolanos]

Robyn Regehr and Dion Phaneuf, despite being defense partners, apparently hated each other. There was famously an incident where Jarome Iginla allegedly punched Dion Phanuf for playing Backstreet Boys full blast in the locker room. So it likely wasn' just Regehr that Phaneuf rubbed the wrong way. Phaneuf later claimed he liked their music.

[@shakakohn9902]

Calgary fan here.....rumor that went around Calgary was Phaneuf was involved with Craig Conroy's wife and Iggy stood up for his bff! Phaneuf was traded pretty quickly after that.

[@Secretservice709]

I know someone who played with Rod and that story is definitely true

[@tokertalk9648]

Bob Mackenzie used to come into the gas station i used to work at as a kid. He told us about the story of Recchi knocking Lindros out in the locker room.

[@mikepennock2984]

I find it hard to believe anyone on the flyers could get the best of lindros. I watched his NHL fights and he dominated everyone of them.

[@screenheads3812]

I went to a kings practice when I was like 13 or 14 and saw Avery jumping and trying to fight the only star player at the time Alexander frolov

[@NerfKnuckles]

Corson/Mogilny was pretty ugly, Alex took some time away from Toronto & Shayne was sent to the press box before leaving the team.

[@Rinde007]

TJ Oshie and Johnathon Toews have no rivals but went to UND together, drafted same year. Toews was arrested for drunk driving at one point, 58 miles away from where I live lol

[@braydenfletcher8159]

Of course JR is the one chirping Marleau. Guy was always a piece of work, hasn't really changed since his playing days

[@GameShowMike]

Don’t forget that when the Penguins won the 2009 Stanley Cup, Malkin won the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoffs MVP.

[@seanmquinn]

I was interning for the Sharks radio station KFRC in 1995 and would go into the locker room for postgame interviews for sound for morning sports segments. I was a die hard Blues fan. The day the Sharks swapped their captain Jeff Norton for Janney I was in the locker room, although I didn't know the Shanahan situation. As a fan I despised Janney's softness in the corners, so I was pretty happy to see him off my team. He came into the locker room after his first Sharks game and everyone crowded around for sound. He gave the most dickish interview possible. It was all profanity. Every other word, and he knew nobody could use any of it and he seemed to enjoy it.

[@chadmurray1963]

Can't really hold anything against the guy for that. The media would get real old real fucking quick. I couldn't imagine constantly having to do interviews. I'd fuck with you guys too.

[@seanmquinn]

The media was polite to him and professional, and he wasn't. Boo hoo, a millionaire athlete forced to participate in universal ritual for the media do the job to promote the game that makes him rich. Boo hoo.

[@randychase305]

@@seanmquinn Funny, you're the one whining like a little bitch.

[@BriBryBriBry]

I’ve never heard that Brandan Shanahan was a cancer in the locker room.. ever. From what I seen and noticed all his teammates loved him. Not saying that’s not true.

[@josephhewitt5962]

Chelios didn’t speak to kindly about him in his book, but his beef with him seemed to be related to Shanahan’s work with the NHLPA.

[@lorndarken]

i had no idea about the Rod Brind'Amour and Eric Lindross story . wow , now it all makes sense as to why philly traded rod for keith prima donna

[@danevertt3210]

You missed the Hasek/Ted Nolan thing You should look that up

[@FCB1900Flo]

11:43 Hahahahaha you da real MVP man =D

[@NewBluesBros]

I live about 10 minutes from the Flyers practice arena in Somerdale and remember the BrindAmore and Lindros deal lol. Still whish they never got him. Oh, what could have been...Instead the Avalanche got the spoils. Ed was a great owner but always trying for the homerun.

[@mikekroft86]

totally agree, the players we traded, ended up leading to two cups for the avs an we got brain damage.

[@gerry6.8]

Never liked Shanahan seems full of himself. Glad to see the "Shanaplan" working so well these days, looks good on him.

[@FHL-Devils]

Bloody hell... Manscaped is the new Raid: Shadow Legends.

[@innyikoli6868]

Ohh It's all coming together, maybe that's why San Jose ship Hoffman to Florida for basically nothing because they wanted Karlsson and they knew about their past history

[@idontgivetkachuk]

👀

[@czarter55]

I don’t think so, San Jose actually got a better return for trading Hoffman than the Sens did.

[@Scoots_McGee]

Not necessarily, SJ fleeced Ottawa when they flipped hoffman to Florida. They initially traded Hoffman to SJ to literally put him across the league away from Karlsson in the western conference, and then flipped him back to Florida for a better return and put him back in the same division as Karlsson. When they traded Karlsson to SJ later there was a clause as part of the trade entitling the Sens to "other considerations" if SJ flipped Karlsson somewhere else like they did Hoffman

[@NPAMike]

I feel bad for Hoffman his gf/wife has cost him millions. It didn't seem like nobody wanted to pay him because of the baggage around him.

[@cahg3871]

@@calgaryhockey6991 that sounds more feasible to me.But we were not there,so who knows?

[@Migmaw]

Reminds me of Gary Leeman and Al Iafrate, Keith Primeau and Bob Probert, Pavel Bure and Sergei Fedorov both involved with Anna Kournikova

[@knightfall7534]

I’m really glad that between both players Subban was the one to leave, he doesn’t focus on the game and does make it all about himself. I didn’t quite understand it at the time but as the trade aged it’s clear to me that Montreal made the best decision.

[@wombatwilly1002]

Agreed

[@bowriver1]

Another great "documentary". Bro, you are gifted. Thanks again.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks dude!

[@brickwall4335]

Your videos are on an upward trend

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks man!

[@kingangus4]

MY MAN GOT SPONSORED LETS GOOO

[@TwoCents302]

been sponsored

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Yessir!!

[@thebeagles2025]

Al Iafrate and Gary Leeman. Look that one up. You cannot be pounding a teammate's wife.

[@rickbeith3336]

I heard Wendel Clark punched out Leeman for being a Dick.

[@pinkwolf6407]

Great vid as always! You keep we awake on my commute into work!

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks dude!

[@Crash88]

I'm digging your videos, love the channel.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thank you so much!

[@artvandelay1967]

players cheating on teammates happens frequently. You had Jeff Brown and Kirk Mcleans wife, and possibly Ryan Kesler with Cory Schneiders gf/wife. And back in the 80's with the Leafs you had Gary Leeman with Al Iafrates gf... destroyed that team.

[@mrfake675]

Brown Mclean rumour is false

[@stephenmonachello6256]

As an oiler fan I remember the rumors of Comrie and Tommy Salo's wife. Salo was never the same sadly. Good goalie. Heard Ethan Moureau knocked him out on a golf course

[@randychase305]

@@stephenmonachello6256 Your post is confusing. Are you saying Moreau knocked out Salo?

[@stephenmonachello6256]

@@randychase305 Sorry. I meant he knocked out Comrie for sleeping with Salo's wife

[@Disrtict6]

@@mrfake675 McLean joked about it around 2010 in an interview. Ill try to find it.

[@LEEMAN-X]

Bro these were all great! haha I didnt know any of this....P.K. Shannahan and Brind'amour are some of my fav players, also I think Roenick was just jealous of Marleau honestly, I feel like thats where it all comes from and you're right about JR wanting the spotlight. Good stuff buddy, im out!

[@vancouverbella6642]

These videos are so entertaining! Keep up the good work

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks sm !!!

[@jesselancaster7]

Canes fans Happy About Rod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His going to win a couple has a coach!!!

[@useless3897]

As an Isles fan, I never knew Mike said or did something smart

[@zenarcher9633]

Subban wears out his welcome pretty quickly everywhere he plays. It wasn't just Gallagher who had issues with Subban, reportedly multiple teammates had physical altercations with him including Captain Patches.

[@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797]

It’s because he’s black and unfortunately guys have low key racism towards him. Hockey is full of racists and they see a black guy and they think those guys don’t belong. Just look at Peters in Calgary and the racism. It exists. Further proof? The year Jose Theodore won the MVP, they robbed it from Jarome Iginla. They could give it to a black guy so they gave it to Theodore. It was the worst kept secret that everyone in and out of the hockey circles felt that Iginla should won it but magically he didn’t

[@Worldsportstalk24]

@@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797 there is absolutely zero proof of that. Subban has a big personality, which is a much more likely explanation here.

[@sammyweed4771]

Iggy !!

[@randychase305]

@@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797 I'd say it's more because PK is a total douchebag.

[@cgasucks]

@@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797 It's not because he's black, just ask Grant Fuhr or Anson Carter. He's just an outspoken douche.

[@waynejohanson1083]

Does Roenick not realize now that Marleau holds the record for most regular season games ever in NHL history.

[@danevertt3210]

No, he’s still clueless

[@alexanderroberts5223]

He played with Marleau between 2006-'08. The video where he rips him is from the 2011 playoffs. So, no, he doesn't realize it, because Marleau was still hundreds of games away at the time.

[@ToddSnow]

Damn, I didn’t know Roenick was such a clown.

[@dlwst44]

Hes the worst

[@artvandelay1967]

Roenick is a POS. more ego than talent. His act wore thin eventually with most of his teammates too.

[@Dolamite314]

Every time I hear JR's name, I think about that press conference with Patrick Roy saying, "I can't hear what JR is saying because both of my Stanley Cup rings are plugging my ears."

[@ChristafuhM]

Lmao goat tho

[@cgasucks]

He was my favorite player when he played for Chicago. He kept his head down and played a hard nosed game in the beginning of his career. He slowly became a whiny bitch after he left.

[@ralphg3454]

Omg when you mentioned Peter Nedved I got really excited. I always wondered what the problem with Nedved and Messier was they seemed to really not like each other. I know Messier said he was too soft many times.

[@stephenmonachello6256]

There is a lot of rumors about Messier';s life style in Vancouver

[@Victor-lk8ty]

You are an underrated youtuber! Love the channel. I’m friends with the guys who started the in the dome podcast! You should go on a pod with them sometime! Keep up the good work!

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Appreciate it man! Im a big Flames fan so if I got the time I'd love to talk with em! They're great guys.

[@KimBouchard]

Interesting information about Shanahan. As a Leafs fan I find that description of him disturbing. Lindros doesn't surprise me. He's the reason why I stopped watching hockey - he put big money endorsements before the game. What drew me back to hockey? I was flipping channels and decided to have a look at the Habs/Penguins game. There's this kid on the ice grinning from ear to ear. Enthusiastic, happy to be there, good player too. PK Subban.

[@waynejohanson1083]

Lindros was going to be drafted 1st overall to Quebec Nordiques but refuse to go there. How classless. If I was drafted 1st overall and would be glad to go anywhere and pursue my dream of a NHL career and perhaps bring that city a Cup.

[@connorbrechbill6516]

There’s a lot of speculation amongst Panthers fans (yes we exist) that Hoffman and his fiancé Monika were unfairly blamed by Melinda and Erik because when he was here because there was never any issue with either of them in regards to his teammates and their families. Same with St. Louis and Montreal. Not a single issue occurred from him or his wife with them either. So it makes me wonder if the two didn’t get along while they were in Ottawa and when those tweets came out, she immediately pointed the finger at Monika as she assumed that was the person most likely to go after her.

[@JoeBoozer]

I think karlsonn wife is trash

[@kathcasey2090]

Oh it's true! Monika went so far as to blame Melinda for miscarrying because she was on drugs! - Ottawa

[@Absbabs88]

Except there was proof of IG comments made by Monika on Melinda's account saying some awful things...

[@timfronimos459]

One of the greatest hockey or should I say sports videos I've ever seen. Some might call this rumor mongering or airing during laundry. In reality this exposes the hard wiring of not only pro sports but almost every major corporation or industry. You wonder why players are traded why management doesn't like certain players or why a reputation makes or breaks a player or an industry leader this video peels back the curtain

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks man!! Appreciate it a ton!!

[@timfronimos459]

@@idontgivetkachuk Keep em coming.

[@Nightrain76]

I would have got the instigator against Hoffman Dave Brown/Dave Semenko style.

[@hiturtle9992]

can u make a video stateing why or why not ovie will pass gretzky on the all time goals list plz

[@beelzeebub1]

Brendan Shanahan stole his linemates WIFE Craig Janney

[@Joe_Ma99]

I enjoyed this video but for some reason that manscaped add read came off creepy lol but ya good video

[@dragonflysurgeon]

That's what happens when you have a drunk owner who calls his own team a dumpster. Too bad he won't sell, he screwed his other business empire and he's created a shit heap in Ottawa

[@connorlessard4096]

Karlsson and Hoffman didn’t hate each other. Their spouses did

[@garyblanchard1084]

To be clear their spouses hated each other?

[@michaelp3467]

Being an oiler fan I had heard the story of Mike comrie sleeping with Tommy Salo wife. Which help lead to his trade out of Edmonton also getting beat up by some of his teammates

[@josephwirtz8352]

...and Brindy also went on to be the current Hurricanes head coach...

[@kevinparker9692]

Wow,i am a life long Wings fan,never heard this stuff about Shanny,he was loved in Detroit, i remember mr I sent a limo for stright to the joe,hes the guy the took us over the top.

[@crazysk8ta123]

Lindros didn't "simply never meet up to those expectations". He got concussed by Scott Stevens

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Obviously.. I said it was cause of injury lmao

[@jayden2669]

11:44 no one going to mention how clever that was

[@idontgivetkachuk]

😏 Glad someone noticed.

[@shatner99]

We'll deal with the those gloves another time.

[@TheTrainMan570]

What about Jeff Carter and Scott Hartnell??

[@coolclipscompletion5775]

You deserve more subscribers I don’t get why you don’t have at least 100 k subscribers

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Appreciate it man! That means alot!

[@mpwmu9041]

I've been a Wings fan for decades and never heard anything about Shanny being a "cancer" in the locker room. News to me.

[@marcpell133]

Guy screwed his teammates wife. Good player, questionable character.

[@domlecompte2415]

Who remembers Al Iafrate caught Gary Leeman sleeping with Melissa (Al's wife) saga??? John Kordic did get a call to help out Al, and Gary was out mostly due to injury

[@jafari6658]

Need to get the inside story on adam gaudette and how the whole canuck team hate him and forced a trade...did he go to whistler?

[@jmichaelewan8455]

I heard his wife hosted a party and that’s where the outbreak came from

[@danevertt3210]

@@jmichaelewan8455 holy crap